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Whats cool about luke is that he is the embodiment of what made ALL the most powerful jedi so powerful: He had anakin's raw power and force ability. He had Ben Kenobi's discipline to master all types of skills. He had Mace Windu's ability to grace the dark side without joining. He had Qui Gon's view on the living force. He had yoda's wisdom and unyielding loyalty to the light. He had Dooku's ability to lead and inspire. He was the embodiment of Jedi Wisdom.
Instead of the Yuuzhan Vong War in what Disney consider "Canon" a shitty war happened that made some random scavenger girl look more powerful than Luke, Yoda, Vitiate, Anakin, Nihilus and Revan. Like why the fuck would anyone like Disney Star Wars.
@@williamryder8497 they need to let favreue and foloni do an valkorian trilogy old republic / revan / nihilus and a episode 10-13 were Darth malgus is unfrozen from Carbonite and sets out to finish the shit he started and get a few sith apprentices and have Luke and Mara and the solo twins combo like mix legends with some original new Canon..they could do it right and do at least six more episodes or separate films let the right people direct and write some awesome shit
That made me angry. How can you blatantly disregard like almost 40 years of quality lore that enriched and expanded the SW universe like that? Instead of getting the cool solo kids from Legends, we got some BS crap about a whiny emo teen who was almost killed by his uncle while sleeping and some random scavenger girl on yet another desert planet who could use the force and fight trained lightsaber users with 0 prior training.
rosvel92 Anakin skywalkers history currently and canonically is much like that. He is regarded as a legend and hero, as he would singlehandedly turn the tides of war during the Clone War. Luke in the EU was regarded as the same, all be it leading the Jedi order being the galaxies protector. I’m not sure how you think this is lesser than Jake Skywalker who drinks titty milk, leaves everyone he loves for dead, gets beaten by a 19 year old girl, then dies because he’s tired. Yeah... so much better
My favorite part of Legends Luke isn't just his skill with a lightsaber or strength in the Force, but his compassion and hope. No one was beyond redemption in Luke's eyes. Always willing to give someone another chance, always confident that there was light in someone, and not accepting that they couldn't be redeemed.
To be honest that was perhaps the most greatest part of his character, hell, he even tried to do so with Palpatine in the Dark Empire at first after defeating him, he always looked at the killing option as last resort, in fact there were multiple situations in EU where Luke redeemed multiple of potentially irredeemable people simply because he believed that there was a chance to do so and took it.
Yes. He is greater than any Jedi. Or Sith. He became the Light Side of the Force. It's what he represents that is so important. His most powerful power was his humanity. Disney missed this. It's who he becomes. Who we can all become. He is an icon of goodness. He is a symbol. And can never truly die.
Jordan Hendrix i like this quote from Heir to the Empire comic. “And with the son, the Jedi truly Return”. I wish I could share the image. That was to be Luke’s arc in Starwars.
Also after serious set backs. Hoth, Bespin, falling to the dark side, comatose on Yavin due to Sith Ghost attack, major injuries due to X-wing crash, banished from his own order, losing Calista then marrying Mara Jade and eventually losing her, the Vong war, Lumia, Caedus. This Luke lead a full life through adversity and became a beacon of hope. Disney Episode 8 was the mouse show of gratitude.
Seriously. Mastering every other discipline of the Force, having countless brushes with the dark side, and learning just as much from his various students as they did from him.
George stated that Luke is/was the most powerful Jedi/Force User to exist in the Star Wars galaxy and no one else would be as powerful as he became before he lived or after.
Well that of course, how could he say otherwise. After all, after reading all these comments we can easilly see who's paying the bills in Skywalker Ranch, newsflash, Luke Skywalker ... Jedi Master (metaphor for 70-80's upper-middle class young males' action hero).
Sith Lord Exar Kun I can disagree StarKiller is one of the strongest force users and there is a lot of Sith and old republic people But he is very powerful I’m guessing George is fan girling lol
So true. Reminds me of that part in fate of the Jedi series where Luke’s force presence can be felt across the galaxy. He is so powerful this force imbued object amplifies it to that extent.
Luke: I can stop black holes, defeated one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy, defeated the emperor, and mastered forms of lightsaber combat with little training and became one with the force.
I agree, im one of those fans that hates the new canon of fucking Disney. Like fuck them. Like thats great making new characters like rey, ben solo, finn but completely changing it and not having any character development to rey or snoke who was suppose to be the big bad villain sith lord. Making rey strong with no jedi training at all and making luke reys bitch and being stronger than him. Luke wanting to die alone not wanting to do anything with the jedi because he saw a glimpse of what could happen, changing his character abandoning his friends when they were in need of his help. Like luke went out of his way of his training with yoda to save his friends, it didnt care about the training in the moment, he sensed that his friends could die, he wasnt gonma let them die. I just love that he fails and but he still comes back up for more, the story is amazing and emotional for me.
Expanded Universe Luke: A leader, had a hand in the creation Of the New Republic And the New Jedi Order, Quite literal Army beater, Evolved the Definition Of a Jedi Master With his ideas and Abilities. Canon Luke: *drinks Alien Milk*
EU luke is the luke that makes sence. son of the highest midichlorian counted being in the galaxy. most force potential. he should of been a GOD. not some old hermit that dies from being tired.
Luke was still human in the EU and he made it clear if anyone worked as hard as him and some more they could all reach his level and that says something
@@ATalesTruth- I actually think it was more of a moral booster for his students in reality only force users who could reach Luke's Level are those within the Skywalker Bloodline
@@alexmason2659 well yes and no, luke is right if someone did try to push themselves to their absolute limit they could reach his level, but the skywalkers would learn faster To put it simply the skywalkers have the highest aptitude in the force so if anyone is going to learn faster it be luke given he has the aptitude of the chosen one, by comparison anakin never worked for his power compared to luke thus never could reach the level luke is at but if he did then he rival luke, As for a normal force user it’s simple they may reach a 40 year old Luke’s power when they are 60 for comparison, to put it simply experience would outrank everything, for instance yoda if he was raised and trained by luke from brith he might have even more powerful given yoda was just a pure lightside user but didn’t use all aspects of the force like luke, because it’s said if yoda even tried to use even the darkside he could have moped the floor with sidious for example, same can be said if sidious used the lightside as well, luke understands the force is both sides and like kyle Vader and the emperor taugh him the abilities aren’t evil only how you use them To which is the main reason force users aren’t as powerful as they could be they don’t use the force to its fullest like luke which is why his new Jedi order is considered more power then the old despite them being only hundreds in number luke realized will of the force is both the light and dark using them both isn’t bad, and you can serve the will do the force as even a darkside user, case in point anakin and revan To which the main reason people foolishly synomises the darkside as evil is because only the sith use the darkside but that is every black and white, the sith only use the dark because they don’t see how the light can help them and some sith use the light side only so it’s not so much Whcih side of the force makes you good or evil only what you do as explained here, as you can use both, it’s only if you defy the will of the force does that make you evil ruclips.net/video/l_xhFS5kjXw/видео.html The only other Jedi in legends to have this mindset is revan and he is always considered top 10 as the most power force users, it could be argued he could be stronger then sidous by some people but that’s all dependent ruclips.net/user/clipUgkx-EyIJYe7qys3nKdwi1w3LzYMfvp3BFkF
@@alexmason2659 nah papaltine reborn was extremely powerful almost archive godhood without been an Skywalker exar kun was extremely almost archive godhood without been an Skywalker, revan was extremely powerful never reached his full potential vitiate almost archive godhood, kyp durrun was extremely powerful master fay was extremely powerful nomir sunrender was extremely powerful too bad her novel never came out, there are alot of star wars characters who weren't Skywalker and were extremely powerful, this is why I love the EU because it's not confined by just the Skywalker, it has lore depth stakes philosophy creativity mystery conflict tragedy unlike David filoni canon.
Legends version of Luke is the version George Lucas intended him to be: the most powerful Force user of all time. Way to honor the creator of Star Wars Disney, completely ruin one of the most iconic characters of all time and completely thrashing the viewpoint of Lucas👍🏻
Make no mistake , i cannot stand the absolute shit Disney has done to Star Wars , but they did honor said creator with 4 BILLION dollars , he was already impossibly rich so i have little sympathy for Mr Lucas and his viewpoints , he should not have sold out to the devil that is Disney.
M J I’ll give Lucas some credit, he cut a better deal for himself and the franchise then they likely would’ve gotten. They would’ve been scooped up either way, whether it was five years ago or last year when Disney bought Fox, aka the people who did own Lucasfilm and bankrolled all his stuff before. And from that we’ve gotten Mando and Rogue One, which are welcome additions to Star Wars imo. One area where I won’t give him credit is who he let run the franchise after he sold it.
@@robacdc1977 Lucas has always owned Lucasfilm. It was his studio. He also owned the Star Wars films, ILM, Skywalker Sound, LucasArts, Lucasfilm Animation, Lucasfilm Animation Singapore, and other companies. He still owns Skywalker ranch. Fox distributed the OT & Prequels, but only owned A New Hope.
@@robacdc1977 Well, he sold it all to Disney. They now pay him rent to continue using the facilities at Skywalker Ranch. I'm saying that all movies after A New Hope(ESB, RotJ, the three Prequels, etc) were bankrolled by Lucas, and produced through his own studio. If Lucas didn't sell to Disney, Disney wouldn't have acquired it(unless they were strongarming him into it or something).
I’m just waiting for Disney to come out with another Trilogy or Project showing that the Last Jedi Luke was a front. That he had a whole story. Luke was off with Ahsoka, Ezra, Grogu, Sabine, Rex and Thrawn against the Grysk, and later the Vong. I can only assume my hero had everyone in his mind as he faced off against a bigger threat.
If he didn’t have none of his injuries he would have become the most powerful being in Star Wars (or force user) he would have probably defeated Palestine and would become the emperor
Luke became what his father was to be. Restored the order as New Jedi Order. Had decades of training, defeats, success and failures. Eu Luke haters say he was to perfect and OP. I beg to differ.
Enigma6344 he had went through years of training with growth which also had failures. So I’d say, since he’s the son of the chosen one...he progresses as he should with training.
luke was not OP he simply studyed his ass off and learned everything he was able to do through years of study not like. Rey who just was able to use this ability
Yeah Rey is an incredibly terrible character and a Mary Sue, but Luke was definitely OP. He had the same potential as Anakin and had more raw force power than anyone. He studied his ass off but his raw force power is much higher than anyone ever aside from The Whills and Abeloth. Calling him anything less than OP is ridiculous. This is what Luke should’ve been in the sequels a wise, hopeful, and powerful Jedi.
@@donovanpitts6907 same with Leia; she has the SAME raw force power as Luke, and yet is basically fucking useless in the new trilogy. Pulls herself back to a blown up bridge, and says "ben"....
Luke Skywalker in Legends is the true canon to me. He take years of training hard and meditation (and we see in the books and comics his progression)...he become what his Father could but never become. He dont lost his hope when his wife and his nephew die. A Jedi never give up, he trust in the Force and dont try to kill his nephew while he is sleeping.
Hey guys we just want to apologize for the lack of uploads in these past few weeks. I (Luke) had an operation and wasn't able to sit on my ass and edit a video although I managed to finish this one somehow for you guys, while Todd had trouble with his dog which ended very unfortunately although there's a reason why we believe in God and he's gonna make it all alright in the end. Anyway we were thinking about maybe making a series of these how powerful videos so leave your thoughts on that bellow :) Our opinion: The Chosen One is potentially stronger then any being in the galaxy (maybe even Abeloth with his full potential unleashed).
William Parcell what if I told you that in the fanfiction in that I'm rewriting he was tired so much was put on his shoulders that he ran away cuz he lost his wife his nephew turn to the dark side a lot of things were beginning to fall apart like that time in his life has come where things just simply are bad for him and Ben solo or as I'm going to call him ithan solo was the breaking point being the Big Hearted man Luke is he tries to bring him back stopping but he is constantly failing at it to the point where he just sadly quits
Legends Luke: gains every power by reading/seeing/ hearing about it all of once then instantly being a master of it (which the video straight up lied about), sat on his bum doing nothing while sending Kyle Gary Stu Katarn to deal with Inquisitor Jarek, let far more of his and the rebels' work be undone than TLJ Luke ever did (from the sith coming back to the emporer being immortal and needing Leia and Anakin Solo to finish him off meaning everything he and the rebels ever did was completely all for naught), breaks nearly every single rule of being a Jedi (forming attachments, acting on emotions, seeking adventure and excitement (two things Yoda explicitly said were things Jedi DON'T seek), I could go on). TLJ Luke: follows the Jedi Rulebook to a T (including the long established tradition that whenever the Jedi Order take a particularly massive hit all living Jedi MUST go into exile no matter how powerful they are, see Yoda (who probably advised him on doing so), Satele Shan (who could block lightsabers with her bare hands), the entire Jedi Council from KOTOR (who all had the Sever Force ability) right before the events of KOTOR 2...), ACTUALLY trains and studies for two particular powers, one of which is previously established as possibly taking decades to fully learn (that being Force Ghost) meaning he was actually doing something productive during his exile, does the very thing he mocked (specifically the "facing the entire first order with nothing but a laser sword" line that everyone cites as "evidence" of his "cowardice" and actually disproving it in doing so), chugs disgusting looking green stuff that makes the water from Discworld's River Ankh look tasty (and you can't so much jump into the River Ankh so much as onto it, and you'd bounce if you did so it's that filthy) and you'd HAVE to be pretty brave to do that, makes a fool out of the entire First Order, has powers that Legends Luke could only dream of (the other ability he spent all that time mastering), specifically doesn't use all those OP abilities because THAT'S NOT WHAT JEDI DO. Who's the real coward here? Certainly not TLJ Luke, if anything he's the closest thing to an actual Jedi that Luke has ever been. In ANY continuity.
LordNul1 Well, there IS the Force Bond which enabled her to acquire Kylo Ren’s skills and abilities. But let’s see her try to rip the engines out of a Star Destroyer.
@@deadshot-qz5rk oh yeah, I'm certain obi wan did absolutely nothing with instructing anakin, they also didn't reference at all the missions they went on and how absolutely nothing happened of note on them. Yep, clearly it was entirely anakin all by himself.
George Lucas say luke is the most powerful jedi ever so he should be OP blame Disney writers for not being talented enough to do the character justice everybody is nerfed and watered down in Disney canon
Luke in canon: Lonely drinking green milk “grand master” Power: Disappearing Luke in Legends: married and has kids. Power: HAS THE POWER TO PULL DOWN THE DEATH STAR, DESTROY A ENTIRE FLEET WITH A LIGHT SABER
Luke in canon: "wut ur gunna take on the entire First Order with a laser sword?" Luke in EU: *takes on the entire Yuuzhan Vong with a goddamn laser sword*
Does it hurt that much seeing him defeated like many other heroes in fiction. I am suffering from depression a lot and I completely understand him in the film.
deadshot 500 Luke isn’t a god , he can be defeated. But Luke will NEVER run away instead of facing his enemies , and fighting to save the galaxy from the evil..
deadshot 500 I’m not Luke Skywalker.. I’m not the hero that faced the most powerful Sith lord that ever lived and his powerful apprentice.. don’t forget that we are talking about Luke not me..
@@ilaemalki99li In my opinion everyone can change to better or worse and it seems that the trauma from losing his students changed him. Also by your logic darth vader shouldn't have been redeemed.
@@caseypitt1296 Yes. You and I know that.....But was never mentioned in the movie. The Legend Of Luke Skywalker should have been whispers of gossip from other characters throughout "The Force Awakens".
Well if that Luke existed in The Last Jedi then he could've just teleported there, clapped his hands together and slaughter everyone at Jakku lol. The movie would've ended pretty quickly.
HEY ASSHOLES DISNEY WILL KILL ALL SKYWALKER LINE. DISNEY WILL CREATE OWN STORY. NO ACROBATIC STUNTS NO NEW SKILL AND OLD FORMATION TECHNIQUES. LAST JEDI MOVIE IS A BIG JOKE. LUKE VS KYLO FIGHT IS A BIG JOKE, DO YOU CALL THAT SITH AND JEDI BATTLE? ITS BETTER TO WATCH THE OLD REPUBLIC CINEMATIC GAME MOVIE THAN STUPID DISNEY AND FUTURE STARWARS MOVIES
Yep. Writers should find ways to create legitimate threats to Luke, not underpower him. Lucas himself called Luke the most powerful force user he ever envisioned in his universe. Ever. Luke must be op. He must be the most overpowered character in all of fiction.
Not even George Lucas considered the EU canon. As I recall, before the Disney sale, the only things that were "G-Canon" were the movies, The Clone Wars, and The Force Unleashed.
Fate of the jedi wasnt perfect but it did help remind you how powerful Luke was in the very first book. He takes out tons of full fledged sith with ease until their leader and her apprentice both fight Luke while Ben gets the ship ready to leave. After already killing about 18 sith, the sith lord (female) looks up at the ship for a split second and is chopped to bits by Luke instantly. Then he spares the apprentice so he can follow her with a blood trail. He was not only powerful but outsmarted sith who suprised him. It was brilliant
Legends Luke is definitely my Luke. The Last Jedi was the last straw for me with the sequel movies. After I saw it, I thought, "That's it. I'm done." I've always considered the EU to be the true canon. Imagine what the Legends characters would think of the sequel ones. 😂
Filoni has never wanted to adhere to the EU, but just take lore and strip it down to suit his own selfish vision of the IP which does not fit into either the films or EU.
Luke build himself up from the ground EU books give us idea about that. Mary Sue just exist as OP entity by the power of raw PC bullshit. Mara Jade is true embodiment of strong women.
Expanded Universe Luke, bar none, is the best Luke. Even if Luke is somehow brought back for Episode IX, the damage is done. Jake Skywalker will NEVER compare to Luke Skywalker. Period.
CO-SIGN,No explanation or attempt to display True Luck would be 1000× stupider then ray in FA after TLJ KILLED his homie HAN down since tatione,shaolin jedi samurai seclusion
Extendend universe starwars is better than cannon starwars (old movies included). I am by no means a big starwars fan but i fucking love everything related to EU sith order and most things that happened during the clone wars becuase they made it so much better. i couldn t physically watch the old trilogies and the prequals were decent at best. the comics the games and the animated series is what i find awesome in starwars.
Luke in the EU started to realise how powerful he was and made the decision to step back and let his students have their chance at being great Jedi also. He decided it wasn't his place to solve all the bad things, but to lead by example, train others and offer advice. Saying that when things really got bad he stepped up and openned the biggest can of Jedi Whoopass.
EU:A powerfull jedi that rebuilds the jedi order, can win agaisnt armies, mastered multiple combat styles and has confidence. Disney:An old depressed guy.
It’s a shame to see what’s happening to star wars. People LIVE for this stuff. If they went the right direction in my opinion they’d start a new trilogy about the old republic and darth revan. That’s a story for the ages
We need a Clone wars like Tv series for time between Episode 6 and 7, deeply exploring all Original characters, and more focused on the Jedi/sith and the force. Now that the movies have ruined it.
I like this version of Luke more, not because he is more powerful than his counterpart of Disney but because he character was much better When I read his lines I felt that I was really reading the Luke Skywalker of the original trilogy movies. We saw him grow from an inexperienced Jedi to become one of the best Jedi masters in history being as wise as Yoda Qui Gon or Obi Wan. It's a shame what they did to their character in The Last Jedi, i hate that Luke very much To all the people who do not like the character of Luke from The Last Jedi I recommend tha read Luke's stories in the EU
@@BlyUehara37 It's a bad storyline, worse than anything in the canon, that greatly cheapens and diminishes Luke, Palpatine, and Darth Vader, as characters.
@@rosvel92 Nah The Last Jedi is worse than Dark Empire in my opinion Dark Empire was a story from the 90s So there was no prophecy of the chosen one yet and it's a fun story to read as a What if
@@BlyUehara37 There can not be "What If?", and by keeping Boba Fett alive, they left no room for what if, that is worse than everything it because there are no consequences to anything.
I personally think this is the Luke we should have gotten, but a slightly underpowered version of all characters (warping through space time, creating blackholes)
Even the mega overpowered EU Luke had to put some effort in fights... But Rey has never even struggled to do anything... And there are STILL some SJW that think she isn't a Mary Sue
He's definitely better than "Canon" Luke. He hit one bump in the road trying to revive the Jedi and gave up. EU Luke hit many obstacles and just grew stronger. Screw you Disney
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@Exar kun Castillo I know but still depending on the writer it could sound like they're pulling it out of their ass I'm not saying he didn't earn the right to be badass but if it's not explained well therefore it's worsens the actual effect
@Exar kun Castillo remember there are different of writers writing at different times for Star Wars I was being Broad I agree it just depends on the writer
Great Video you covered many good feats by Luke. The EU will always be gold especially compared to Disney’s sequel garbage. Although I hate the Last Jedi, I didn’t perceive Jake as “weak” he seemed like he could do a lot just was written horribly to be nihilistic and boring.
It pains me that TLJ gave us Jake Crywalker. Theres no reason why we couldn't have gotten 1 scene where he shows off his immense power. Legends is where its at if you want content with effort put in it. Great video as always, I love your headcanon which combines every great about Legends and Canon. Keep it up.
To be honest in retrospect, I found that OP Master Luke in the EU ranged between awesome, to insufferable depending on the writer and story. Much like the EU in general really. Sometimes, it was an awesome display of how far he had come and the potential he and the new generation of Force sensitives had. Othertimes, it was basically Gary Stu-ism at its worst. Kind of an interesting case study really over how different fans approached such a revered character. Some did interesting things with him or found a way to challenge him despite his power, and others just sort of couldn't help but deify him. Kinda reminds me of the writing dilemma with Superman that's been in comics forever, some do really neat things with the character while others just don't know what to do with him and end up making him this insufferable unrelatable thing, so stories about him fluctuate wildly between pretty good to terrible. It's difficult to write a powerful character well.
Completely agree with you hence I was why I despise superman in the comics because it eventually comes to a road of asking the question of what's the point? You can make characters powerful but not gods because if you keep scaling up then it soon becomes ridiculous and uninteresting.
A lot of his ridiculous feats are things that a single author decided he could do, and then never come up/get used again. It's the more reasonable abilities that get used over and over. I guess what I'm saying is that in aggregate Luke was probably ridiculously overpowered, like this video seems to point out. But in (most) of the EU I remember reading, he doesn't really come off as an unbeatable god; just a really powerful master.
Got into a debate with my friend about who is more powerful: expanded universe Luke or Master Chief from Halo... I think it’s safe to say that Luke would annihilate him
At some point people will realise that Luke’s plan in ROTJ was an intricate plan that offered Jabba numerous opportunities that would not result in his destruction. Luke even says “this is your last chance, free us or die” People don’t understand how Luke’s plan never involved killing anyone (and taking the guards gun was to hold Jabba at gunpoint and negotiate)
Funny thing is, as powerful as Luke was in the Expanded Universe, there's still many times where he's coke close to death. Reading the Legacy of the Force now, it's great seeing how powerful Luke is. So much in fact that he literally walked into his nephew's meditation chamber and pinned him down with the Force, his nephew who is now a fully realized Sith Lord.
TBH, I don't think Luke's abilities made him overpowered, given that it took him years to develop many of the techniques that he mastered. If he was able to do it from the beginning, that would have made him way OP. Some things to consider when it comes to Luke though is that while he is arguably the perfect hero in Star Wars, you get to see that he is in fact still human, and therefore not infallible. In Episodes 4 and 5 he's cocky and displays a recklessness that Yoda observes upon meeting him for the first time. You see him ignoring the advise of his masters multiple times, he has an "I can't do that" attitude while he's training, and in Return of the Jedi, and when Vader reveals that he is Luke's father, you see the hint of resentment towards Obi Wan for withholding the truth from him. And come Return of the Jedi, even though years had passed and he had obviously grown, you see him struggling with the dark side repeatedly against Vader and repeatedly having to force himself back to the light. Honestly, I would love to see a movie/tv series about the years after Return of the Jedi. In my mind, these stories are canon, and while the Rey series had the potential to be so much better than it was, I feel like the legends stories would be far more interesting given that the stories are already written and therefore limits directors from inserting their own personal biases into the narrative - Like what happened with Finn in Episode 8 (where he was reduced to side character status and all original ideas depicted by Abrams in the force awakens were stripped away).
Luke is ultimately the most limited and powerful Being. Limited in the sense that he can never use the darkside (which is unlimited power, just not sustainable and leaves horrendous affects on your body) But he owns all the light side power. He can harness all the power of good and light which is enough to defeat Everyone and everything( no matter how powerful) that is against him.
For me, the EU is canon. What Darth Mickey has wrought is nothing more than a cash grab. I spent years and many dollars keeping up with Luke's story. I will not be doing that again. But that's just me.
If Disney had used anything from the EU, they would have had to acknowledge creator's copyrights, share control, and negotiate royalties. The Mouse negotiates with no one. That's why they made something up, and by people who had obviously never seen ANY of the movies.
In my opinion, Luke was set up by George Lucas to be the most powerful Jedi ever. That is why I like the books so much, you really see Luke's power. I like that during the Abeloth episode, he mentions the meeting with Father, Daughter, and Son that ObiWan and Anakin had. I don't really honour Episodes 7 and 8, in fact I have never seen them, as canon, following instead the Legends canon.
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Whats cool about luke is that he is the embodiment of what made ALL the most powerful jedi so powerful:
He had anakin's raw power and force ability.
He had Ben Kenobi's discipline to master all types of skills.
He had Mace Windu's ability to grace the dark side without joining.
He had Qui Gon's view on the living force.
He had yoda's wisdom and unyielding loyalty to the light.
He had Dooku's ability to lead and inspire.
He was the embodiment of Jedi Wisdom.
And he had Plo Koon's EMERALD lightning lol. I always thought that was a stupid name for it but it's cool they gave plo something.
And then came Ruin Johnson and Disney and turned him into a cowardly sociaopath.
Spot on
In other words, he was the embodiment of the force and the fulfillment, of the prophecy.
James Dagnan I thought it was called electric judgment
EU: *Contains literally multiple franchises worth of backstory and lore*
Kathleen Kennedy: "We had no source material to go off of for the new movies"
And they still ripped off dark empire in the worst way possible
Instead of the Yuuzhan Vong War in what Disney consider "Canon" a shitty war happened that made some random scavenger girl look more powerful than Luke, Yoda, Vitiate, Anakin, Nihilus and Revan. Like why the fuck would anyone like Disney Star Wars.
She should be sued for my and all Fan's mental anguish and depression I'm serious
@@williamryder8497 they need to let favreue and foloni do an valkorian trilogy old republic / revan / nihilus and a episode 10-13 were Darth malgus is unfrozen from Carbonite and sets out to finish the shit he started and get a few sith apprentices and have Luke and Mara and the solo twins combo like mix legends with some original new Canon..they could do it right and do at least six more episodes or separate films let the right people direct and write some awesome shit
That made me angry. How can you blatantly disregard like almost 40 years of quality lore that enriched and expanded the SW universe like that? Instead of getting the cool solo kids from Legends, we got some BS crap about a whiny emo teen who was almost killed by his uncle while sleeping and some random scavenger girl on yet another desert planet who could use the force and fight trained lightsaber users with 0 prior training.
What are some cool abilities Luke Skywalker has?
Expanded Universe: Yes
x Loganrulelarge x 😂😂😂
Whatever Force ability it may be, Luke Skywalker has learned & mastered it.
Disney:No
Same damn force power my dad had 😆
Check out a video that ranks all the grand masters. They give a run down of Luke skywalker capability as a Jedi grandmaster (with the Forcs)
@@spowden Rey: yes.
Huh, now I see why Star Wars fans were upset about The Last Jedi.
Really? You dont say!? XD
Yes we are living in the dark days of the empire now
I know this is late. But thanks for understanding. I don’t think some people try to understand why we’re upset. It’s only that..we’re haters or toxic.
Yeah, pretty much.
Just show everyone who does not understand why we were so upset this video.
Yes, Luke definitely was out of character, even Mark Hamil, didn’t agree with the new Luke
Even Mark Hamill himself wanted this Luke to happen.
Filoni and Kennedy ensured that would never happen.
@@saberiandream316 I think it’s only Kennedy
@@G_Diddler yea infact Dave wanted this Luke the powerful hopefully Jedi master
Dude Filoni would never do this
It was all Kennedy and that bastard Ruin
He’s literally happy that he pissed us off
@@flynn2420 filoni think the same way Kathleen Kennedy thinks. he was ok with them ruining luke
This is the Luke I expected in Star Wars 8, not some guy who dies because he is tired
Michael Miller Not according to Rian Johnson. Try again👍🏻🤪
That Luke never died because they turned him into a comic super hero instead of a Star Wars character.
rosvel92 Anakin skywalkers history currently and canonically is much like that. He is regarded as a legend and hero, as he would singlehandedly turn the tides of war during the Clone War.
Luke in the EU was regarded as the same, all be it leading the Jedi order being the galaxies protector. I’m not sure how you think this is lesser than Jake Skywalker who drinks titty milk, leaves everyone he loves for dead, gets beaten by a 19 year old girl, then dies because he’s tired.
Yeah... so much better
This is indeed the Luke we should have had!!!
Yeh ikr he died not even being that old just fucking died said fuck it in the movie what a nightmare piece of shit that was.
My favorite part of Legends Luke isn't just his skill with a lightsaber or strength in the Force, but his compassion and hope. No one was beyond redemption in Luke's eyes. Always willing to give someone another chance, always confident that there was light in someone, and not accepting that they couldn't be redeemed.
To be honest that was perhaps the most greatest part of his character, hell, he even tried to do so with Palpatine in the Dark Empire at first after defeating him, he always looked at the killing option as last resort, in fact there were multiple situations in EU where Luke redeemed multiple of potentially irredeemable people simply because he believed that there was a chance to do so and took it.
Yes. He is greater than any Jedi. Or Sith. He became the Light Side of the Force. It's what he represents that is so important. His most powerful power was his humanity. Disney missed this.
It's who he becomes. Who we can all become. He is an icon of goodness. He is a symbol. And can never truly die.
He decapitated Darth Lumia lol
Except Palpatine, I'm pretty sure Luke would kill hom again
@DarkVaati13 same
Powerful enough to force project without dying...
Jordan Hendrix yes!! That’s why the DisCanon makes no sense.
OH SHIIIIIIITTTTT! haha best comment by far
Jordan Hendrix i like this quote from Heir to the Empire comic.
“And with the son, the Jedi truly Return”.
I wish I could share the image.
That was to be Luke’s arc in Starwars.
he literally died... smh..
I've seen this raw strength only once before
"Overpowered, yet after Years of training." DARN RIGHT!
Not even just "years". Decades upon decades upon decades worth of training trial and errors. He deserved the power he got by the end of it all
Not like a certain character who after little bit of training became op
Also after serious set backs. Hoth, Bespin, falling to the dark side, comatose on Yavin due to Sith Ghost attack, major injuries due to X-wing crash, banished from his own order, losing Calista then marrying Mara Jade and eventually losing her, the Vong war, Lumia, Caedus. This Luke lead a full life through adversity and became a beacon of hope.
Disney Episode 8 was the mouse show of gratitude.
Seriously. Mastering every other discipline of the Force, having countless brushes with the dark side, and learning just as much from his various students as they did from him.
@@khalduras784 thank you
Thats great and all... but did Luke ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
He actually did. He found Darth Plageuis's manuscript after defeating the Emperor in 11 ABY.
Wow didnt know that
@@julioacceus253 what! No way, i didn't know that.
He did and he use it
TRENT Waller Of course you haven’t heard of it, you were just joking when you asked that question. But the answer is yes he did
George stated that Luke is/was the most powerful Jedi/Force User to exist in the Star Wars galaxy and no one else would be as powerful as he became before he lived or after.
Nah Disney said fuck that shit.and made gey did it
And Disney comes a long and say NO NO NO the strongest has to be a woman, forget the past, the future is WAHMAN.
Disney said "vagina power rules".
Well that of course, how could he say otherwise. After all, after reading all these comments we can easilly see who's paying the bills in Skywalker Ranch, newsflash, Luke Skywalker ... Jedi Master (metaphor for 70-80's upper-middle class young males' action hero).
Sith Lord Exar Kun I can disagree
StarKiller is one of the strongest force users and there is a lot of Sith and old republic people
But he is very powerful I’m guessing George is fan girling lol
*Luke was so tired of Disney that he just killed himself*
@@giddots Its kinda reasonable.
He went back to the eu
Luke Skywalker really?
Wini I don’t blame him
Luke Skywalker I hate how Disney literally nerfed everything in Star Wars
Dark Side thing: *exists*
Luke Skywalker: *sneezes*
Dark side thing: *_why do I hear boss music?!_*
So true. Reminds me of that part in fate of the Jedi series where Luke’s force presence can be felt across the galaxy. He is so powerful this force imbued object amplifies it to that extent.
@@faketohma Luke And Vader had just the same pressence in the galaxy Actually the thing is that Vader was Far Darker
Rey: I can use force lighting
EU Luke: That's cute
Luke: I can stop black holes, defeated one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy, defeated the emperor, and mastered forms of lightsaber combat with little training and became one with the force.
And he has good development and didn't suddenly get powerful
@@justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885 exactly!
"Hold my black hole."
@@justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885 Fr
This is why us star wars fans hate the canon, because luke is sooo much more powerful, wise and human in legends than he ever was in the new movies
I agree, im one of those fans that hates the new canon of fucking Disney. Like fuck them. Like thats great making new characters like rey, ben solo, finn but completely changing it and not having any character development to rey or snoke who was suppose to be the big bad villain sith lord. Making rey strong with no jedi training at all and making luke reys bitch and being stronger than him. Luke wanting to die alone not wanting to do anything with the jedi because he saw a glimpse of what could happen, changing his character abandoning his friends when they were in need of his help. Like luke went out of his way of his training with yoda to save his friends, it didnt care about the training in the moment, he sensed that his friends could die, he wasnt gonma let them die. I just love that he fails and but he still comes back up for more, the story is amazing and emotional for me.
I pretend that the Disney canon doesn't exist. With the exception of Fallen Order and maybe the first season of the mandalorian
No no, you get it wrong THIS is Canon for us :D. Disney is just some weird fanfic
@@TSPH1992 for me rogue one and the mandalorian exist. The rest can go fuck themselves lol. I don’t take fallen order as it’s just a game
Sure, Sarge. Whatever.
Expanded Universe Luke: A leader, had a hand in the creation Of the New Republic And the New Jedi Order, Quite literal Army beater, Evolved the Definition Of a Jedi Master With his ideas and Abilities.
Canon Luke: *drinks Alien Milk*
Me: but Luke hates blue milk o doubt he’s drink green 😂
@@faketohma Well, he grew up.
Why the hate on alien milk? You can't expect to find cows in all planets!
All the rest, I whole hartedly agree tough.
EU luke is the luke that makes sence. son of the highest midichlorian counted being in the galaxy. most force potential. he should of been a GOD. not some old hermit that dies from being tired.
Luke was still human in the EU and he made it clear if anyone worked as hard as him and some more they could all reach his level and that says something
@@ATalesTruth- I actually think it was more of a moral booster for his students in reality only force users who could reach Luke's Level are those within the Skywalker Bloodline
@@alexmason2659 well yes and no, luke is right if someone did try to push themselves to their absolute limit they could reach his level, but the skywalkers would learn faster
To put it simply the skywalkers have the highest aptitude in the force so if anyone is going to learn faster it be luke given he has the aptitude of the chosen one, by comparison anakin never worked for his power compared to luke thus never could reach the level luke is at but if he did then he rival luke,
As for a normal force user it’s simple they may reach a 40 year old Luke’s power when they are 60 for comparison, to put it simply experience would outrank everything, for instance yoda if he was raised and trained by luke from brith he might have even more powerful given yoda was just a pure lightside user but didn’t use all aspects of the force like luke, because it’s said if yoda even tried to use even the darkside he could have moped the floor with sidious for example, same can be said if sidious used the lightside as well, luke understands the force is both sides and like kyle Vader and the emperor taugh him the abilities aren’t evil only how you use them
To which is the main reason force users aren’t as powerful as they could be they don’t use the force to its fullest like luke which is why his new Jedi order is considered more power then the old despite them being only hundreds in number
luke realized will of the force is both the light and dark using them both isn’t bad, and you can serve the will do the force as even a darkside user, case in point anakin and revan
To which the main reason people foolishly synomises the darkside as evil is because only the sith use the darkside but that is every black and white, the sith only use the dark because they don’t see how the light can help them and some sith use the light side only so it’s not so much Whcih side of the force makes you good or evil only what you do as explained here, as you can use both, it’s only if you defy the will of the force does that make you evil
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The only other Jedi in legends to have this mindset is revan and he is always considered top 10 as the most power force users, it could be argued he could be stronger then sidous by some people but that’s all dependent
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@@alexmason2659 nah papaltine reborn was extremely powerful almost archive godhood without been an Skywalker exar kun was extremely almost archive godhood without been an Skywalker, revan was extremely powerful never reached his full potential vitiate almost archive godhood, kyp durrun was extremely powerful master fay was extremely powerful nomir sunrender was extremely powerful too bad her novel never came out, there are alot of star wars characters who weren't Skywalker and were extremely powerful, this is why I love the EU because it's not confined by just the Skywalker, it has lore depth stakes philosophy creativity mystery conflict tragedy unlike David filoni canon.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 no
Legends version of Luke is the version George Lucas intended him to be: the most powerful Force user of all time. Way to honor the creator of Star Wars Disney, completely ruin one of the most iconic characters of all time and completely thrashing the viewpoint of Lucas👍🏻
Make no mistake , i cannot stand the absolute shit Disney has done to Star Wars , but they did honor said creator with 4 BILLION dollars , he was already impossibly rich so i have little sympathy for Mr Lucas and his viewpoints , he should not have sold out to the devil that is Disney.
M J I’ll give Lucas some credit, he cut a better deal for himself and the franchise then they likely would’ve gotten. They would’ve been scooped up either way, whether it was five years ago or last year when Disney bought Fox, aka the people who did own Lucasfilm and bankrolled all his stuff before. And from that we’ve gotten Mando and Rogue One, which are welcome additions to Star Wars imo. One area where I won’t give him credit is who he let run the franchise after he sold it.
@@robacdc1977 Lucas has always owned Lucasfilm. It was his studio. He also owned the Star Wars films, ILM, Skywalker Sound, LucasArts, Lucasfilm Animation, Lucasfilm Animation Singapore, and other companies. He still owns Skywalker ranch.
Fox distributed the OT & Prequels, but only owned A New Hope.
Christus Regnet He might own part of the name now but it’s not run by him anymore.
@@robacdc1977 Well, he sold it all to Disney. They now pay him rent to continue using the facilities at Skywalker Ranch.
I'm saying that all movies after A New Hope(ESB, RotJ, the three Prequels, etc) were bankrolled by Lucas, and produced through his own studio. If Lucas didn't sell to Disney, Disney wouldn't have acquired it(unless they were strongarming him into it or something).
Just the fact that he could call all Jedi across the Galaxy through the force
... Shows he's a powerful individual
I came here after the Mandalorian, they did him justice.
We want to see him go all out, lmao 🤣his feats sounds overpowered
Thank you
I’m just waiting for Disney to come out with another Trilogy or Project showing that the Last Jedi Luke was a front. That he had a whole story. Luke was off with Ahsoka, Ezra, Grogu, Sabine, Rex and Thrawn against the Grysk, and later the Vong. I can only assume my hero had everyone in his mind as he faced off against a bigger threat.
They didn’t
Filoni has never been writing for the EU. His own words and history show that.
To me Luke Skywalker from the original trilogy and of the EU, will remain the greatest Jedi of all time.
Going into the new trilogy being an EU luke fanboy:
After:
*Look how they massacred my boy*
you mean... *LUKE how they massacred my boy* ?
I will see myself out
Imagine if anakin reached his full potential in the light side
If he didn’t have none of his injuries he would have become the most powerful being in Star Wars (or force user) he would have probably defeated Palestine and would become the emperor
He’d be a God
Or Anakin beats Obi Wan and takes the throne from Palpatine
His full potential would be able to use both sides of the force
He’d be the strongest to ever exist
"How powerul is EU Luke?"
More powerful than you can possibly imagine.
He's essentially what Anakin would have been at his full potential.
@@housetheunstoppablessed4846 It might be a little weaker
@@abdullahbajrami6816 but would even rival Anakin at full potential,
Cuz Full potential Luke would be slightly weaker than Full potential Anakin,
@@abdullahbajrami6816 but in universe luke stomps anakin
@@abdullahbajrami6816 nope Luke has Anakin's potential he embodies everything Anakin failed to be
Luke became what his father was to be. Restored the order as New Jedi Order. Had decades of training, defeats, success and failures.
Eu Luke haters say he was to perfect and OP. I beg to differ.
Enigma6344 he had went through years of training with growth which also had failures. So I’d say, since he’s the son of the chosen one...he progresses as he should with training.
@Enigma6344 op cuz he had Anakins force potential, twice that of Sidious who is > than any1
@Enigma6344 Well you did see Rey lift a few tons of rock without any actual training.
@Enigma6344 So was palpatine in a sense
I like how Luke had to actually... learn his abilities and master them unlike someone
It's because he read obi wan's journal and learned about the high ground
luke was not OP he simply studyed his ass off and learned everything he was able to do through years of study not like. Rey who just was able to use this ability
Yeah Rey is an incredibly terrible character and a Mary Sue, but Luke was definitely OP. He had the same potential as Anakin and had more raw force power than anyone. He studied his ass off but his raw force power is much higher than anyone ever aside from The Whills and Abeloth. Calling him anything less than OP is ridiculous. This is what Luke should’ve been in the sequels a wise, hopeful, and powerful Jedi.
@@donovanpitts6907 same with Leia; she has the SAME raw force power as Luke, and yet is basically fucking useless in the new trilogy. Pulls herself back to a blown up bridge, and says "ben"....
Yep he actually earned his godlike status
Luke Skywalker in Legends is the true canon to me. He take years of training hard and meditation (and we see in the books and comics his progression)...he become what his Father could but never become. He dont lost his hope when his wife and his nephew die. A Jedi never give up, he trust in the Force and dont try to kill his nephew while he is sleeping.
That was the hardest thing to see for me. Luke Skywalker was the embodiment of hope.
@@subdragon007 hence the name of episode 6, a new hope
edgelord 59 episode 4 also do you know when Luke used oneness on Abeloth as I can’t find it
Hey guys we just want to apologize for the lack of uploads in these past few weeks. I (Luke) had an operation and wasn't able to sit on my ass and edit a video although I managed to finish this one somehow for you guys, while Todd had trouble with his dog which ended very unfortunately although there's a reason why we believe in God and he's gonna make it all alright in the end. Anyway we were thinking about maybe making a series of these how powerful videos so leave your thoughts on that bellow :)
Our opinion: The Chosen One is potentially stronger then any being in the galaxy (maybe even Abeloth with his full potential unleashed).
Hey, why hyperspace lore for an idea of a video tho?
God will make it great for you guys. I believe that you can be a nerd and love the lord as much as you guys.
@@DavidOConnor44 We do to ;) He created us to love what we love ;)
Me and a buddy are planning a small group at our church, where we meet up talk about the lord and play MTG.
Please do more clone wars
The best Luke. Much better than TLJ Luke who was reduced to a coward who went into hiding and let all the work he and rebels did get undone.
William Parcell what if I told you that in the fanfiction in that I'm rewriting he was tired so much was put on his shoulders that he ran away cuz he lost his wife his nephew turn to the dark side a lot of things were beginning to fall apart like that time in his life has come where things just simply are bad for him and Ben solo or as I'm going to call him ithan solo was the breaking point being the Big Hearted man Luke is he tries to bring him back stopping but he is constantly failing at it to the point where he just sadly quits
Legends Luke: gains every power by reading/seeing/ hearing about it all of once then instantly being a master of it (which the video straight up lied about), sat on his bum doing nothing while sending Kyle Gary Stu Katarn to deal with Inquisitor Jarek, let far more of his and the rebels' work be undone than TLJ Luke ever did (from the sith coming back to the emporer being immortal and needing Leia and Anakin Solo to finish him off meaning everything he and the rebels ever did was completely all for naught), breaks nearly every single rule of being a Jedi (forming attachments, acting on emotions, seeking adventure and excitement (two things Yoda explicitly said were things Jedi DON'T seek), I could go on).
TLJ Luke: follows the Jedi Rulebook to a T (including the long established tradition that whenever the Jedi Order take a particularly massive hit all living Jedi MUST go into exile no matter how powerful they are, see Yoda (who probably advised him on doing so), Satele Shan (who could block lightsabers with her bare hands), the entire Jedi Council from KOTOR (who all had the Sever Force ability) right before the events of KOTOR 2...), ACTUALLY trains and studies for two particular powers, one of which is previously established as possibly taking decades to fully learn (that being Force Ghost) meaning he was actually doing something productive during his exile, does the very thing he mocked (specifically the "facing the entire first order with nothing but a laser sword" line that everyone cites as "evidence" of his "cowardice" and actually disproving it in doing so), chugs disgusting looking green stuff that makes the water from Discworld's River Ankh look tasty (and you can't so much jump into the River Ankh so much as onto it, and you'd bounce if you did so it's that filthy) and you'd HAVE to be pretty brave to do that, makes a fool out of the entire First Order, has powers that Legends Luke could only dream of (the other ability he spent all that time mastering), specifically doesn't use all those OP abilities because THAT'S NOT WHAT JEDI DO.
Who's the real coward here? Certainly not TLJ Luke, if anything he's the closest thing to an actual Jedi that Luke has ever been. In ANY continuity.
LordNul1 So are you saying that Rey in the sequels represents Legends EU Luke?
@@dvader518 no, definitely not seeing she has exactly three force powers to EU Luke's...all of them.
LordNul1 Well, there IS the Force Bond which enabled her to acquire Kylo Ren’s skills and abilities.
But let’s see her try to rip the engines out of a Star Destroyer.
So Ryan Johnson took Legends Luke and stripped him of everything that made him powerful for Rey to take his place... yeah no thanks I pass.
Lmao yeah
And yet Rey became more powerful after a couple days of training....
Only because she has female reproductive organs
Rey vs Yoda and EU Luke. Who Wins?
@@TSPH1992 she's also a palpatine so she's got a genetic boost
How so?
Anubis I think it’s just because she is a female, meaning she “obviously” has to be the best.
So, how much of this will Rei emulate in the next movie with zero formal training?
Anakin also didn't have training or did I missed it somewhere in the prequels?
@@deadshot-qz5rk 10 years between TPM and AOTC
@@deadshot-qz5rk oh yeah, I'm certain obi wan did absolutely nothing with instructing anakin, they also didn't reference at all the missions they went on and how absolutely nothing happened of note on them. Yep, clearly it was entirely anakin all by himself.
deadshot 500 yea we can tell you didnt watch then at all
@@shawnm1902 yet people were salty that rey can fly the millennium falcon alone but she did said that she flied before on ships like the falcon.
He doesn't have to be this OP in canon, he just shouldn't be a loser like he is now
Agree
Honestly
George Lucas say luke is the most powerful jedi ever so he should be OP blame Disney writers for not being talented enough to do the character justice everybody is nerfed and watered down in Disney canon
Remember when Star wars had heart and soul. Before the ST before Disney.
Luke in canon: Lonely drinking green milk “grand master” Power: Disappearing
Luke in Legends: married and has kids. Power: HAS THE POWER TO PULL DOWN THE DEATH STAR, DESTROY A ENTIRE FLEET WITH A LIGHT SABER
Luke in canon: "wut ur gunna take on the entire First Order with a laser sword?"
Luke in EU: *takes on the entire Yuuzhan Vong with a goddamn laser sword*
The Real Luke Skywalker , The Only .
Keep up making those videos 😍
Does it hurt that much seeing him defeated like many other heroes in fiction. I am suffering from depression a lot and I completely understand him in the film.
deadshot 500
Luke isn’t a god , he can be defeated.
But Luke will NEVER run away instead of facing his enemies , and fighting to save the galaxy from the evil..
@@ilaemalki99li I wonder how you will feel about it when you are broken.
deadshot 500
I’m not Luke Skywalker.. I’m not the hero that faced the most powerful Sith lord that ever lived and his powerful apprentice..
don’t forget that we are talking about Luke not me..
@@ilaemalki99li In my opinion everyone can change to better or worse and it seems that the trauma from losing his students changed him. Also by your logic darth vader shouldn't have been redeemed.
Again.......One of the main reasons why The Last Jedi pisses me off so much. They ignored so many storylines of what Luke really was.
But they still considered Luke to be powerful in Canon because at the Battle of Jakku, he brought a star destroyer down to the ground from space.
@@caseypitt1296
Yes.
You and I know that.....But was never mentioned in the movie. The Legend Of Luke Skywalker should have been whispers of gossip from other characters throughout "The Force Awakens".
Well if that Luke existed in The Last Jedi then he could've just teleported there, clapped his hands together and slaughter everyone at Jakku lol. The movie would've ended pretty quickly.
@@CanderousOtto,
Really much rather have gotten that then the utter trite that was presented.
HEY ASSHOLES DISNEY WILL KILL ALL SKYWALKER LINE. DISNEY WILL CREATE OWN STORY. NO ACROBATIC STUNTS NO NEW SKILL AND OLD FORMATION TECHNIQUES. LAST JEDI MOVIE IS A BIG JOKE. LUKE VS KYLO FIGHT IS A BIG JOKE, DO YOU CALL THAT SITH AND JEDI BATTLE? ITS BETTER TO WATCH THE OLD REPUBLIC CINEMATIC GAME MOVIE THAN STUPID DISNEY AND FUTURE STARWARS MOVIES
EU Luke IS the canon version to me. Disney can't make change my mind
Amen to that.
That opening “Hello there” was flawless.
About 20% as strong as an untrained Rey.
When he was 5
No... 10 times as strong as the sequel trilogy in it's entirety.
@Wes Bradley-Taubner Not even a morning routine
@Wes Bradley-Taubner Hell Bespin Luke could fucking slap Rey and Kylo at the same time
Luke Skywalker practicing every day: Warm ups: Force push; quadruple somersault; Force choke; Force lightning; repeat
People: "EU Luke is so overpowered"
Me: You're right, and its so badass
Yep. Writers should find ways to create legitimate threats to Luke, not underpower him. Lucas himself called Luke the most powerful force user he ever envisioned in his universe. Ever. Luke must be op. He must be the most overpowered character in all of fiction.
Remember when Luke and his son Ben Skywalker took a whole Sith tribe by themselves and only one member of the tribe escaped with his life?
@@TSPH1992I haven't gotten to that point in comics but if the sith escaped with his life, then Luke allowed it
@@lightray9573 it's in the vid. Anyways can you still buy the comics?
@@Lots17 you can, you just gotta find a comic store or store that sells that sort of stuff or get it online
I'm confused. You said in the intro that he's the opposite in "canon". Erm...EU IS CANON. Disney tripe is nothing but lies.
Not even George Lucas considered the EU canon. As I recall, before the Disney sale, the only things that were "G-Canon" were the movies, The Clone Wars, and The Force Unleashed.
@@andrewjenkins9965 The force unleashed isn't canon anymore though
@@Dennis_7091 true, but at the time it was as canon as canon could get.
Fate of the jedi wasnt perfect but it did help remind you how powerful Luke was in the very first book. He takes out tons of full fledged sith with ease until their leader and her apprentice both fight Luke while Ben gets the ship ready to leave. After already killing about 18 sith, the sith lord (female) looks up at the ship for a split second and is chopped to bits by Luke instantly. Then he spares the apprentice so he can follow her with a blood trail. He was not only powerful but outsmarted sith who suprised him. It was brilliant
Legends Luke is definitely my Luke. The Last Jedi was the last straw for me with the sequel movies. After I saw it, I thought, "That's it. I'm done." I've always considered the EU to be the true canon.
Imagine what the Legends characters would think of the sequel ones. 😂
Disney calls it "legends", I call Lucas' vision Expanded Universe!
They'd probably think "so that's the dark multiverse versions of us"
Luke would just look at himself, shake his head in disappointment and just walk out without any remorse
Fuck Disney. Legends all the way
Who’s here after seeing Luke in the Mandalorian?
I’m late to comment, but when I saw that scene for the first time... I legit cried :’)
Filoni has never wanted to adhere to the EU, but just take lore and strip it down to suit his own selfish vision of the IP which does not fit into either the films or EU.
Me
Luke build himself up from the ground EU books give us idea about that. Mary Sue just exist as OP entity by the power of raw PC bullshit. Mara Jade is true embodiment of strong women.
The real Luke, not Jake.
Think Disney needs to subscribe lol
Actually I do consider Thrawn Trilogy Luke as real canon.
film version of Thrawn trilogy wouldve been better than what disney made
@@rffg781 Just wait, Filoni is going to attempt his own version of the Thrawn Trilogy. God help us all...
“Thinking about his son, his wife, his jedi order”
*instantly thinking of anime’s protagonist*
This video not only shows what a badass Grand Master Luke was but it answers the question what would a full potential light side Anakin look like
That intro never gets old... love y'all's channel!!! Keep it up!
Expanded Universe Luke, bar none, is the best Luke. Even if Luke is somehow brought back for Episode IX, the damage is done. Jake Skywalker will NEVER compare to Luke Skywalker. Period.
I agree.
CO-SIGN,No explanation or attempt to display True Luck would be 1000× stupider then ray in FA after TLJ KILLED his homie HAN down since tatione,shaolin jedi samurai seclusion
I’m so glad my name isn’t Jake, and I feel bad for the Jakes of the world that aren’t tools. :)
unless they pull of a major plot armor and make it that those movies were just a illusion or from a different dimension or they just go back in time
Extendend universe starwars is better than cannon starwars (old movies included). I am by no means a big starwars fan but i fucking love everything related to EU sith order and most things that happened during the clone wars becuase they made it so much better. i couldn t physically watch the old trilogies and the prequals were decent at best. the comics the games and the animated series is what i find awesome in starwars.
Luke in the EU started to realise how powerful he was and made the decision to step back and let his students have their chance at being great Jedi also. He decided it wasn't his place to solve all the bad things, but to lead by example, train others and offer advice. Saying that when things really got bad he stepped up and openned the biggest can of Jedi Whoopass.
No one:
Disney Luke Skywalker: Loses to Rey in a fight, dies after minimal creation of illusion of himself.....
EU:A powerfull jedi that rebuilds the jedi order, can win agaisnt armies, mastered multiple combat styles and has confidence.
Disney:An old depressed guy.
"... Luke's 'nephew,' Jaina Solo..."
I think you meant "niece," lol.
I find it absolutely hilarious that luke visits his descendant and just finds him degening on death sticks. LMAO
@elviade sleazebaggano
5:58
Luke: Walking on lava.
Anakin: “Wait, you can do that?”
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This brings back so many memories from reading these books
I recognize this as canon, shitney destroyed the Skywalkers
7 and 8 are NOT cannon. End of story.
It’s a shame to see what’s happening to star wars. People LIVE for this stuff. If they went the right direction in my opinion they’d start a new trilogy about the old republic and darth revan. That’s a story for the ages
@@Thatonellama63 a story they will ruin
Paladin Allama please no lol I just read that book and I would hate for them to destroy it
7 maybe, 8? Definatly not
Damn Right!!!!
We need a Clone wars like Tv series for time between Episode 6 and 7, deeply exploring all Original characters, and more focused on the Jedi/sith and the force. Now that the movies have ruined it.
Well, I consider the Mandalorian and EU canon instead.
I like this version of Luke more, not because he is more powerful than his counterpart of Disney but because he character was much better
When I read his lines I felt that I was really reading the Luke Skywalker of the original trilogy movies. We saw him grow from an inexperienced Jedi to become one of the best Jedi masters in history being as wise as Yoda Qui Gon or Obi Wan.
It's a shame what they did to their character in The Last Jedi, i hate that Luke very much
To all the people who do not like the character of Luke from The Last Jedi I recommend tha read Luke's stories in the EU
Like, the stupid one's where Luke is Palpatine's Apprentice?
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Bro Luke pretended to be his apprentice
but it never was really
@@BlyUehara37 It's a bad storyline, worse than anything in the canon, that greatly cheapens and diminishes Luke, Palpatine, and Darth Vader, as characters.
@@rosvel92 Nah The Last Jedi is worse than Dark Empire in my opinion
Dark Empire was a story from the 90s
So there was no prophecy of the chosen one yet and it's a fun story to read as a What if
@@BlyUehara37 There can not be "What If?", and by keeping Boba Fett alive, they left no room for what if, that is worse than everything it because there are no consequences to anything.
I personally think this is the Luke we should have gotten, but a slightly underpowered version of all characters (warping through space time, creating blackholes)
Canon Luke: Mordecai
Legends Luke: Rigby
*Pft. This is nothing. Rey taught all of this to Yoda.*
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Oof
luke>rey
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Anakin to legends luke: i can't describe how proud i am of you son
Anakin to disney luke: i hate you son. I'm disappointed in you
"grand master luke skywalker" damn that sounds really good
Even the mega overpowered EU Luke had to put some effort in fights... But Rey has never even struggled to do anything...
And there are STILL some SJW that think she isn't a Mary Sue
Luke was the chosen one. At heart he was the idealistic farm boy which enabled him to open to the light side more than anyone before.
He's definitely better than "Canon" Luke. He hit one bump in the road trying to revive the Jedi and gave up.
EU Luke hit many obstacles and just grew stronger.
Screw you Disney
I am so happy to see more and more people paying attention to and creating content based on the true Star Wars, the Star Wars of my childhood. Subscribed
We only do that ;)
The only thing more powerful than *EU Luke* is *Mary Sue Rey/Disney Feminist Agenda.*
To be fair Luke was kind of a gary stew
Depending on the writer
@@anarchomando7707 "years if training"
@Exar kun Castillo I know but still depending on the writer it could sound like they're pulling it out of their ass
I'm not saying he didn't earn the right to be badass but if it's not explained well therefore it's worsens the actual effect
@Exar kun Castillo remember there are different of writers writing at different times for Star Wars I was being Broad
I agree it just depends on the writer
When you completely max out your skills in a game
Bro I was just thinking about this 😂
The real Chosen One. I wish we could watch this godlike version of him on screen.
Great Video you covered many good feats by Luke. The EU will always be gold especially compared to Disney’s sequel garbage. Although I hate the Last Jedi, I didn’t perceive Jake as “weak” he seemed like he could do a lot just was written horribly to be nihilistic and boring.
Revan It definitely built up a ton of anticipation and could have been something great
It pains me that TLJ gave us Jake Crywalker. Theres no reason why we couldn't have gotten 1 scene where he shows off his immense power.
Legends is where its at if you want content with effort put in it.
Great video as always, I love your headcanon which combines every great about Legends and Canon. Keep it up.
To be honest in retrospect, I found that OP Master Luke in the EU ranged between awesome, to insufferable depending on the writer and story. Much like the EU in general really.
Sometimes, it was an awesome display of how far he had come and the potential he and the new generation of Force sensitives had. Othertimes, it was basically Gary Stu-ism at its worst. Kind of an interesting case study really over how different fans approached such a revered character. Some did interesting things with him or found a way to challenge him despite his power, and others just sort of couldn't help but deify him. Kinda reminds me of the writing dilemma with Superman that's been in comics forever, some do really neat things with the character while others just don't know what to do with him and end up making him this insufferable unrelatable thing, so stories about him fluctuate wildly between pretty good to terrible.
It's difficult to write a powerful character well.
Really like your analysis. I always believed skill ceilings were important. If the main character breaks it, then I think its time to end the story
Completely agree with you hence I was why I despise superman in the comics because it eventually comes to a road of asking the question of what's the point? You can make characters powerful but not gods because if you keep scaling up then it soon becomes ridiculous and uninteresting.
The thrawn trilogy was the peak of legends
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That was just the rising part lol! New Jedi was the peak and even Legacy lol!
A lot of his ridiculous feats are things that a single author decided he could do, and then never come up/get used again.
It's the more reasonable abilities that get used over and over.
I guess what I'm saying is that in aggregate Luke was probably ridiculously overpowered, like this video seems to point out. But in (most) of the EU I remember reading, he doesn't really come off as an unbeatable god; just a really powerful master.
Now this is the true Luke Skywalker and the only one fans will honor forever! “May The Force Be With You.”
3:03 “The whole First Order” being a few walkers.
EU Luke: Come on, gimme a challenge
@@cabardoproductionsoc9864 but hold up- 6:26 THAT’S LUKE?? 😧
YES!!! We expected him to face down the First Order with a laser sword!
It's exactly what EU Luke would have done. By that age, he'd defeated worse. Hell he defeated worse before his morning shit and shave.
Got into a debate with my friend about who is more powerful: expanded universe Luke or Master Chief from Halo... I think it’s safe to say that Luke would annihilate him
That wouldn't even be a fight
Luke be smurfing the Halo.
At some point people will realise that Luke’s plan in ROTJ was an intricate plan that offered Jabba numerous opportunities that would not result in his destruction.
Luke even says “this is your last chance, free us or die”
People don’t understand how Luke’s plan never involved killing anyone (and taking the guards gun was to hold Jabba at gunpoint and negotiate)
Funny thing is, as powerful as Luke was in the Expanded Universe, there's still many times where he's coke close to death. Reading the Legacy of the Force now, it's great seeing how powerful Luke is. So much in fact that he literally walked into his nephew's meditation chamber and pinned him down with the Force, his nephew who is now a fully realized Sith Lord.
TBH, I don't think Luke's abilities made him overpowered, given that it took him years to develop many of the techniques that he mastered. If he was able to do it from the beginning, that would have made him way OP.
Some things to consider when it comes to Luke though is that while he is arguably the perfect hero in Star Wars, you get to see that he is in fact still human, and therefore not infallible. In Episodes 4 and 5 he's cocky and displays a recklessness that Yoda observes upon meeting him for the first time. You see him ignoring the advise of his masters multiple times, he has an "I can't do that" attitude while he's training, and in Return of the Jedi, and when Vader reveals that he is Luke's father, you see the hint of resentment towards Obi Wan for withholding the truth from him.
And come Return of the Jedi, even though years had passed and he had obviously grown, you see him struggling with the dark side repeatedly against Vader and repeatedly having to force himself back to the light.
Honestly, I would love to see a movie/tv series about the years after Return of the Jedi. In my mind, these stories are canon, and while the Rey series had the potential to be so much better than it was, I feel like the legends stories would be far more interesting given that the stories are already written and therefore limits directors from inserting their own personal biases into the narrative - Like what happened with Finn in Episode 8 (where he was reduced to side character status and all original ideas depicted by Abrams in the force awakens were stripped away).
Legends Luke Skywalker is the way.
I have spoken.
Luke is ultimately the most limited and powerful Being. Limited in the sense that he can never use the darkside (which is unlimited power, just not sustainable and leaves horrendous affects on your body)
But he owns all the light side power. He can harness all the power of good and light which is enough to defeat Everyone and everything( no matter how powerful) that is against him.
For me, the EU is canon. What Darth Mickey has wrought is nothing more than a cash grab. I spent years and many dollars keeping up with Luke's story. I will not be doing that again. But that's just me.
I love Luke. He’s my favorite character. But the sequels ruined him. EU will *always* be canon to me.
The difference is that EU Luke failed....but continues to get back up and press on. He may have been OP, but he had the trials to back it up
If Disney had used anything from the EU, they would have had to acknowledge creator's copyrights, share control, and negotiate royalties. The Mouse negotiates with no one. That's why they made something up, and by people who had obviously never seen ANY of the movies.
TL;DR
EU Luke is the bomb-digity, bangs Mara Jade, and doesn't get spanked by anybody. Smokes Prince Xzior and Black Sun. He. Is. A. Boss!
This is my Luke Skywalker, not canon Luke
Let's call canon Luke = Fluke
#MyLukeSkywalker
"Legend" will always remain the real canon to me, no matter what Disney's executives and PR people say :)
* the ability to sustain a black hole *
*Shivers*
Edit: Luke didn't actually die, he was just using a force projection the whole time. THERE IS HOPE!
When your Star Wars movie's so bad Luke just peaces out.
In my opinion, Luke was set up by George Lucas to be the most powerful Jedi ever. That is why I like the books so much, you really see Luke's power. I like that during the Abeloth episode, he mentions the meeting with Father, Daughter, and Son that ObiWan and Anakin had. I don't really honour Episodes 7 and 8, in fact I have never seen them, as canon, following instead the Legends canon.
In his own words, George Lucas said that, “Luke was the MOST POWERFUL Force User of all time, with NO UPPER LIMIT.” A The pre-Kathleen Kennedy Luca’s Film, pre-Rian Johnson’s stated glee at Star Wars Fans hating “The Last Jedi” as he made the movie, “for myself, not Star Wars fans”. May God have Mercy on their Souls, and soon.... God is Good, ALL the Time, and ALL the Time God is Good‼️💓💓💓🛐🛐🛐🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🥃🥃🥃
Bruno Martinez he also said that Luke was never the chosen one!
@Gabriel Gouvêa A strawman, nice