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Imagine if he trained more in the force in his earlier years and not basically solely focus on lightsaber training, he would have been OP. Hope one day we get a "What if" series on star wars from Disney one day would be so cool.
???? you're assuming he didn't? he was pretty equal in his prowess as a swordsman and a force user. and they grew together, he wasn't just great at one and mediocre in the other like someone like kyp durron being on luke skywalkers level in the force but not with a lightsaber or corran horn being a great duelist but mediocre force user, anakin was incredible at both.
@bigbootyboy132 yes anakin was very impressive with the force but that's only because of his natural affinity. For example prime anakin at the end of revenge of the sith was equal in force ability to obi wan, this is illustrated by the fact they force push eachother and they are equal. The fact anakin who has the greatest connection to the force out of anyone who has ever lived was equal to obi wan shows he was slacking in force ability training.
@@poopooman-q7r anakin in both canon and legends focused more on dueling than training with the force. His inherent connection to the force is what made him strong without much training into it.
So, he can just step out of the force, wipe out anyone he wants, and then go back to chill? And they say Anakin didn't realize his full force potential. That feat with enemies Luke couldn’t defeat at his best sounded like solid proof of Anakin’s superiority over Star Wars.
@@davidortiz3094 yeah in WBW but it´s just an ghost so he is actually not real in the star wars galaxy. And he became the most powerful jedi of his era but not the most powerful.
I know the scene was deleted, but Lucas did film a segment where Anakin kills one of the greatest duelists of the order with one hand while force choking another Jedi lol. He really was intended to be an absolute tank.
Light side anakin could only happen if qui gon jin had lived and trained him. He would have accepted anakin's need for attachment and anakin could have brought balance to the force by pursuading the Jedi of the importance of love and attachment instead of having to kill them all to hit the reset button.
Honestly Anakin is better off staying in light side as a Jedi or leave the order because him turning to the dark side didn’t benefit him at all in the long run. Anakin has the potential to change the jedi order similar how Luke did in the expanding universe if he just tell the council about his visions or to Obi wan things could have different. Also be interesting story if he had survived after return of the jedi to following the long path to atonement help Luke rebuild the Jedi order and heal the galaxy for the things he had done.
Actually Lucas intended to have Anakin and Obi-Wan return to the living after Luke first sees them as ghosts (Yoda remaining behind as he believes he can be of more help as one with the force). Obviously that would be awkward seeing an 80 year old (Sabastian Shaw) as prime Anakin and 60+ year old Alec Guiness as prime Obi-Wan knowing now they can appear in any form they chose from their life. If that scene had been shot as intended I'm sure Lucas would have just reshot the part with Hayden and Ewan. Would love love love to have an Anakin/Obi-Wan movie with those 2 having done just that.....the REAL Episode 7. Oh and Anakin now has a power to bring Padme back and boom...the band is back together.
I was hoping you’d make a video on this topic sometime soon. Could we ever get a Luke Skywalker video at some point? Edit: It was cool to see some Galaxy of Adventures clips in there. That ad transition was clean af too.
Everything would go the same but instead of losing to Kenobi, they would tie and something happens to where they have to stop fighting. Anakin(Vader) leaves with palp getting stronger in the dark side. Eventually breaks off from Palp and becomes a 3rd player in Star Wars. So many game and movie remakes.. wonder if they should remake the star wars movies but change little things to make it new.
15:15, These living stone giants were made of a material with an extremely massive Force presence, which in the context of that particular story seems to have been there to justify Yoda’s power being strong enough to affect objects of that size (something he wouldn’t be able to do normally), while the ground-cracking, asteroid-shaking laughter seems somewhat of a hyperbolic statement than anything else (moreso, due to the fact that the environment around the giant isn’t violently exploding due destructive waves of force moving fast enough to reach asteroids orbiting the planet). 17:43, It should be noted that the massive Kyber crystal is what is generating the light blast that is injuring and killing everyone in the room but Vader and Sidious. Palpatine resists it due to his power, while Vader is incapacitated by it, but its not Palpatine himself generating this star-destroying energy nor does crystal alone have the power to destroy stars, as the rest of the Final Orders cannons channel energy through it that it then amplifies (as with other Kyber-imbued weapons). Other than that, Anakin’s failure to access his potential the way Yoda and Palpatine did there’s can be seen as a symptom of his personality being very different from either of them. Whereas they both were fully focused and committed to their respective goals and purposes, Anakin was constantly hampered by his doubts over his place in the grand scheme of things and, as Vader, his shame over how his actions destroyed not only his life, but the lives of so many across the galaxy. His career as a soldier protecting the Republic and then as a military enforcer policing them Empire were a distraction from his insecurities, but would never allow him to gain the focus he would have needed to achieve all he could have on either side of the Force. This is quite perfect for his character as just with Maul before him, his ego and tendency for uncontrolled emotion meant it didn’t matter how much power or potential he had if lacked the control or the mindset necessary to harness it properly.
also one last thing key issue i always say this anakin skywalker could still reach his full potential the strongest most powerful force user ever of all time in history with or without his right arm he lost to count dooku right
Have you considered doing a hypothetical vs battle between two Star Wars characters in canon where you scale each opponent to see who might win if they were to ever fight?
How do we know that Vader was taking the full force of a star or even a planet destroying amount of energy, wouldn’t Ochi get vaporized? Wouldn’t Exagol get vaporized? Also Sidious saying he’s all the Sith isn’t in reference to him having the power of all the Sith, as the Sith can’t persist after death in the way that certain Jedi can, same with Rey she has equal midichlorion potential to living Palpatine, so she didn’t need the extra power from the Jedi, it’s bad writing, but making sense of the quotes it’s just them saying they’re the only Jedi and Sith left
I explain in the video that Sidious can’t destroy a star, so how would he vaporize Exegol? It’s also confirmed in multiple sources that Sidious and Rey were channeling all the power of the Sith and Jedi respectively. You can call it bad writing, but that’s what happened.
I was so confused when the fortnite emote started playing 💀 was washing dishes looked over and I thought I skipped video by accident xD. But loved this video overall super enjoyable 😄
Great video! I love Anakin Skywalker, I think his thematic value in the world of Star Wars is unparalleled. I know you don’t watch the CW, but I do wonder if you’ve got any interest in the second or third seasons of Superman and Lois? I think he might be strong enough to solo the MCU avengers. Legitimate planetary feats
Honestly the what if Anakin stays on the light side would be more interesting for what it would mean for Luke and leia. Because if he stays he would still have to leave the order to be with padme.
In The New Canon in The Beginning of The film Attack of The Clones I would give Anakin a Jedi Holocron and a Sith Holocron so His Episode 3 Lightsaber has a Green Blade.
4:28 The comic clearly shows that it was Palpatine who manipulated the midichlorians to create Anakin. So, in canon, Maul and Dooku were just place holders until Anakin was of age.
Id love to get your breakdown on Revan. Mostly cause I am a huge Revan fanboy, but also because I view him as the Anakin of his time, capable of both sides of the Force, mastering himself in a way only Anakin did. Plus the split into madness between spiritual death into the light and his physical darkside continuing on. However, I understand that Revan is mostly legends continuity and if you dont want to open that can of worms that's fair.
Awesome vid, can you tell me the source of these? -The comic where Yoda moves a mountain -The one with the huge kyber crystal powering the star destroyers -Sidious destroying the universe in Legends
hey key issue do you think if qui gon jinn is the only jedi that could have saved anakin make him the strongest most powerful force user ever of all time in history save his mother allow him to be with padme right
Will you be doing Baylan, Shin, Kanan Jarrus or Ezra (ahsoka series) scaling videos? For full potential Anakin I'd use legends grandmaster Luke as a benchmark
it wasnt the world between worlds. it was a force vision that took place in her mind. force ghosts are always displayed as blue hued beings. and the world between worlds per dave is not time travel. they didnt go to ashokas past, they went to her memories.
@@KeyIssues ahsoka never left the ocean. she wasnt in the world between worlds. everyone location her and anakin went was her memory. anakin wasnt a force ghost. he was part of the force vision
@@qtindavis433 Ignoring the fact that it was VERY obvious she was in the world between worlds, the official Star Wars website has confirmed it multiple times "Ahsoka’s mystical experience culminates back in the World Between Worlds as she duels her old Master."
@@KeyIssues ignoring daves own words. howd she go to the past if the world between worlds doesnt time travel?? bc it was a force vision. everything happened on her mind. jacen even heard the vision while Ahsoka was still in the ocean. she never left. her master wasnt a force ghost. it was all a force vision.
Anakin is knightfall has already surpassed them as the canon book Skywalker family at war. Calls him stronger. " he couldn't blame palpatine who had helped him to become more powerful who had held him back". Also mace does have the anti feat of losing to darth Maul in a 2 v 1 with aayla in the son of dathomir comic which is canon and dooku shows superiority to said maul so at least he should be above mace. As his statement of being the strongest was early war and anakin grew more.
1. Knightfall is Darth Vader who was amped by the dark side, not Anakin. 2. Mace didn't lose that duel, he was knocked out by an explosion fired by someone outside of the duel. Mace wasn't tagged by Maul once.
Key issues I got a unrelated question, but I don’t see anyone bringing this up, shouldn’t DCEU Wonder Woman be around planatary level, considering AP = Duarbillity by newtons law, every action has a equal and opposite reaction,She headbutted Superman while stunning him and taking no damage, we know Superman is at least planatary, and l the mother boxes as well, not only that but Zeus lightning divided the mother box unity but steppenwolfs axe tanked Zeus lightning which should scale his axe to somewhere relative the the lightning that divided the mother boxes, the axe did nothing to Superman, but wonder woman’s headbutt stunned him, wouldn’t that at least upscale her duarbillity to around planatary ?
And couldn’t you upscale her speed to relative to justice league flash’s combat speed since she was able to hit Superman while he was looking directly at her but flash wasn’t
dooku beat mace in duels before. yoda doubted mace could fight dooku at the beginning of the clone wars but after mace got battle hardened, yoda thought mace stood a chance. dooku also started slowing down in his older age. the “dooku said he couldn’t beat mace” is always taken out of context. it was dooku being chased by multiple jedi, including mace. mace used shatterpoint to find out he could end the clone wars by killing dooku. but he couldn’t actually beat dooku.
1. Dooku has never beaten Mace in canon 2. Yoda never said Mace couldn’t beat Dooku in canon 3. Dooku wasn’t slowing down at all that’s just blatantly false 4. The comic book referenced is a Mace and Dooku 1v1 Amazing, everything you just said was wrong
@@KeyIssues key issues blatantly cherry picking facts. nothing new. you’re the same guy who said dooku and anakin had universal level attacks in their duel. yet their sabers bounce off a wall. guess starwars walls are universal level. amazing. as far as dooku vs mace, stupendous wave has a video mentioning everything I said. unlike you he cites his sources, which is why he has nearly quadruple the amount of subscribers.
@@UnroyalYeet uh key issues never said that 😂, I think you might be talking about crisis's vader video iirc. Also you clearly don't know the difference between attack potency and destructive capacity
@KeyIssues not a clear victory for Dooku, but it's clear he's a step ahead of Windu when they fought on Ridlay. Dooku lands the first clean hit, plays expert defense even when Windu has a purpose amp, and the whole time Dooku is playing defense he is antagonizing and revealing his Plan to Windu.
@@Pele701 The dark side is literally known to be addictive and corrupts the user if used for too long. Even dark side users who aren't sith like Taron Malicos become evil because the dark side took over him
Maul, Ahsoka, Savage, Grievous are stronger than Kenobi. Maul defeated Dooku who regularly stomps Obi Wan. Dooku even tells Obi Wan that he is weaker on the level Qui Gon. Regarding both his losses to Obi Wan in TPM it's stated that not only was Maul stronger than the combined power of Qui Gon and Obi Wan but that he was toying around during the entire Duel Of Fates and could've killed him easily if he took him seriously. As for Rebels it's stated that Maul was severely weakened and went crazy after searching for Kenobi in the desert. It's stated that the only characters who can fight Ahsoka are Sidious and Vader. Like Dooku, Savage (who's weaker than Maul) was able to 1V2 both Anakin and Obi Wan. Throughout the Clone Wars and in ROTS Grievous has been shown overpowering Kenobi and defeated him in their duel, and only lost because Obi Wan used The Force.
@@GeneFOX70 hahaha hahaha hahaha... Kenobi has won over Maul more times then the other way around, not to mention that ROTS Kenobi or New Hope Kenobi is more powerfull then he was at the time of the Clone Wars, Kenobi cut Savadge limbs when he fought against him and Maul together, Ashoka has lost to Vader where at least Kenobi has won a couple of times, Kenobi loses to Dooku beauce of his lightssaber stile, Kenobi fight with his brains and with his master defence lightssaber style, that works better against agressive opponets like Maul and Vader, not as good against Dookus calm nature. Kenobi has been selected to fight against Greevous for a reason, Mace, Yoda and Qui Gun Jin praise Kenobi for his accoplisments, and Dooku when he spoke to Kenobi tried to unbalance him, he respect his students opinion ... so you are apsoluty wrong when you say that Savadge, Greevous, Ashoka and Maul are more powerfull the Kenobi, while he is not close to the power of the Grandmasters (Yoda and Luke), the Chosen one and so on.
So you mean to tell me Yoda is somehow strong enough to move mountains yet Palpatine (his former equal) with a little bit of time got to star level.... I am gonna pretend that is not dumb
Lucas screwed up his story should have followed the writers that kept his franchise going he turned into what he complained about Hollywood always do weird to ignore the stories in the comics.
Wasted potential. All of his descendants surpasssed him in Legends. In canon his legacy was erased by Rey and Sidious' return. Anakin was weaker than Armored Vader. Yes he did have the potential to be one of the most powerful force users rivalling the Ones and Abeloth... but he NEVER reached that potential.
My opinion Vader should honestly be below Anakin as movies alone he doesn't do that much to be impressive and narratively it makes more sense Vader lost so much that even his power he use to have is far from his reach but disney will not let that happen. Like it feels weird and wrong Luke somehow got stronger than his old man in 4 years while his old man had 13 years to get strong
Anakin only probably would have matched them but not surpassed them and I say not even matched them. Dooku was holding back each time. The only time eh started to be serious is seconds before he lost but it was seconds and too late by the time Anakin grabbed his hands but it was too late. Now Anakin didnt train much in the utilization of the force but lightsaber combat more than anything. He should have been instructed to focus on applying and understanding all the force
@@astar2641 he didn't and you didn't read canon and non canon said he could have beat Anakin up until he allowed himself to get tired and Anakin did surpass him during the time he got angry
@@jamest1242r then why in the same novel Is Anakin claimed to be the strongest Jedi by one other than Mace windu. Also, why Dooku himself acknowledged that if he did not get serious to fight both Anakin and Obi wan he would get killed after they changes to their true forms of lightsaber combat. And Dooku himself claims Anakin to be stronger this Is just faboyism towards Dooku. And Is evident you are a hater of Anakin.
@@astar2641 bro Anakin is my favorite character for my own personal reasons and I can sympathize with him. Him and the Skywalkers besides many other EU characters are my favorite so save all that bs. They started in their old fighting stances to throw Dooku off. I read them all bro. Dooku lightsaber had the ability to switch length without going out and he could have had used that to kill Anakin or wound him. Dooku was instructed after Geonosis to not harm Anakin fatally or cut off anymore of his limbs even though palpatine loved he cut his arm off because it benefitted Anakin. He had to go wash all the way until the last duel where he didn't want to die but found it was far too late at that point when Anakin actually tapped to far into the dark side after obi wan was hurt and unconscious. It was all over at that point.
@@jamest1242r for that same reason Anakin surpassed Dooku Is stated in canon Also Anakin Grew in power and knightfall Vader Is More powerful than him and Mace. Yoda Is still above him but Anakin after His transformation Is above both of them. Also Dave Filoni Said Anakin was on pair with Dooku In season 4 given His trayectory Anakin in a few days to control the Darkside would Been More powerful than both Yoda and sidious why Anakin lost to Obi wan if he Is a Lot More powerful than him, because His state of mind was horrible after he choked padme, was sleep deprived and had not estén in days.
Old man palpy is def stronger than Vader. He survived the massive explosion from the death star. Vader was barley standing after he got shocked after he stuck his finger in palpys electrical outlet.
@@Raimi54420 dark side amped anakin beat dooku, and if u recall from the official novelization, it’s stated beforehand that sidious told dooku to hold back to not harm anakin (I believe)
@@Mikerille anakin amped himself by tapping into the darkside so that is irrelevant, even in the clone wars anakin came close to beating dooku and that was a weaker version of ani, wether dooku was holding back or not anakin is clearly stronger
@@Raimi54420 “whether dooku was holding back or not anakin is clearly stronger” ahh yes…that’s why a holding back dooku only lost to a dark side amp. Anakin was weaker.
Rey Skywalker is more powerful based on movie feats which are the ultimate canon. She could easily kill Vader/Anakin with force lightning and has been shown to be able to lift objects way heavier than anything we have seen from Vader/Anakin and also is able to channel spirits of all former jedi and so would be able to use their skills to out-duel Vader/Anakin as well. She really has more claim to being the chosen one in Disney Canon
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Imagine if he trained more in the force in his earlier years and not basically solely focus on lightsaber training, he would have been OP. Hope one day we get a "What if" series on star wars from Disney one day would be so cool.
???? you're assuming he didn't? he was pretty equal in his prowess as a swordsman and a force user. and they grew together, he wasn't just great at one and mediocre in the other like someone like kyp durron being on luke skywalkers level in the force but not with a lightsaber or corran horn being a great duelist but mediocre force user, anakin was incredible at both.
@bigbootyboy132 yes anakin was very impressive with the force but that's only because of his natural affinity. For example prime anakin at the end of revenge of the sith was equal in force ability to obi wan, this is illustrated by the fact they force push eachother and they are equal. The fact anakin who has the greatest connection to the force out of anyone who has ever lived was equal to obi wan shows he was slacking in force ability training.
@@poopooman-q7r anakin in both canon and legends focused more on dueling than training with the force. His inherent connection to the force is what made him strong without much training into it.
@@torrentarrow9097 thats true, anakin was more of a warrior than peacekeeper i guess
He trained in the force as well. Hell, it's part of why he was so OP in Saber Combat as well.
Ya know, the fact that he never reached Full Potential in life, yet was already so powerful is insane. His power in the afterlife is absolutely nuts
I can’t get over how detailed and amazing your Star Wars power scaling videos are. I wish there was more Star Wars content like these on RUclips.
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So, he can just step out of the force, wipe out anyone he wants, and then go back to chill? And they say Anakin didn't realize his full force potential. That feat with enemies Luke couldn’t defeat at his best sounded like solid proof of Anakin’s superiority over Star Wars.
Luke couldn't defeat the wraiths because they were incorporeal. He was stronger and more skilled than they were, but he couldn't hurt them.
@@KeyIssuesAnakin definitely could. He is literally a child of the force.
He's by far the most powerful Jedi that ever was, just never reached his 'potential'
Not until becoming a force ghost. Now he can probably destroy a planet
@@NasTalkz Anakin has full control over the light & dark side of the force now.
@@davidortiz3094 yeah in WBW but it´s just an ghost so he is actually not real in the star wars galaxy. And he became the most powerful jedi of his era but not the most powerful.
I know the scene was deleted, but Lucas did film a segment where Anakin kills one of the greatest duelists of the order with one hand while force choking another Jedi lol.
He really was intended to be an absolute tank.
can you tell me more on that?
When?
He did it was in hologram scene it’s canon
Light side anakin could only happen if qui gon jin had lived and trained him. He would have accepted anakin's need for attachment and anakin could have brought balance to the force by pursuading the Jedi of the importance of love and attachment instead of having to kill them all to hit the reset button.
I respect him for giving starwars love every once and awhile
fact, especially all the negativity he got for years, its good to see em getting his flowers
Honestly Anakin is better off staying in light side as a Jedi or leave the order because him turning to the dark side didn’t benefit him at all in the long run. Anakin has the potential to change the jedi order similar how Luke did in the expanding universe if he just tell the council about his visions or to Obi wan things could have different. Also be interesting story if he had survived after return of the jedi to following the long path to atonement help Luke rebuild the Jedi order and heal the galaxy for the things he had done.
Actually Lucas intended to have Anakin and Obi-Wan return to the living after Luke first sees them as ghosts (Yoda remaining behind as he believes he can be of more help as one with the force). Obviously that would be awkward seeing an 80 year old (Sabastian Shaw) as prime Anakin and 60+ year old Alec Guiness as prime Obi-Wan knowing now they can appear in any form they chose from their life. If that scene had been shot as intended I'm sure Lucas would have just reshot the part with Hayden and Ewan. Would love love love to have an Anakin/Obi-Wan movie with those 2 having done just that.....the REAL Episode 7. Oh and Anakin now has a power to bring Padme back and boom...the band is back together.
I was hoping you’d make a video on this topic sometime soon. Could we ever get a Luke Skywalker video at some point?
Edit: It was cool to see some Galaxy of Adventures clips in there. That ad transition was clean af too.
Yes I will do a Luke video 😄
Anakin is as strong as the plot needs him to be at the time
Would of been cool if Anakin would of ended up starting his own faction. The Rebels, The Empire, and Anakins Army
Everything would go the same but instead of losing to Kenobi, they would tie and something happens to where they have to stop fighting. Anakin(Vader) leaves with palp getting stronger in the dark side. Eventually breaks off from Palp and becomes a 3rd player in Star Wars. So many game and movie remakes.. wonder if they should remake the star wars movies but change little things to make it new.
15:15, These living stone giants were made of a material with an extremely massive Force presence, which in the context of that particular story seems to have been there to justify Yoda’s power being strong enough to affect objects of that size (something he wouldn’t be able to do normally), while the ground-cracking, asteroid-shaking laughter seems somewhat of a hyperbolic statement than anything else (moreso, due to the fact that the environment around the giant isn’t violently exploding due destructive waves of force moving fast enough to reach asteroids orbiting the planet).
17:43, It should be noted that the massive Kyber crystal is what is generating the light blast that is injuring and killing everyone in the room but Vader and Sidious. Palpatine resists it due to his power, while Vader is incapacitated by it, but its not Palpatine himself generating this star-destroying energy nor does crystal alone have the power to destroy stars, as the rest of the Final Orders cannons channel energy through it that it then amplifies (as with other Kyber-imbued weapons).
Other than that, Anakin’s failure to access his potential the way Yoda and Palpatine did there’s can be seen as a symptom of his personality being very different from either of them. Whereas they both were fully focused and committed to their respective goals and purposes, Anakin was constantly hampered by his doubts over his place in the grand scheme of things and, as Vader, his shame over how his actions destroyed not only his life, but the lives of so many across the galaxy. His career as a soldier protecting the Republic and then as a military enforcer policing them Empire were a distraction from his insecurities, but would never allow him to gain the focus he would have needed to achieve all he could have on either side of the Force. This is quite perfect for his character as just with Maul before him, his ego and tendency for uncontrolled emotion meant it didn’t matter how much power or potential he had if lacked the control or the mindset necessary to harness it properly.
Well the monster wasn't trying to destroy asteroids here
He may be the Chosen One who is said to bring Balance to the Force, but he's no match for me the Heart of the Force, Revan.
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That vision idea would be so awesome
“Not as powerful as the high ground…” - Obi-Wan Kenobi.
also one last thing key issue i always say this anakin skywalker could still reach his full potential the strongest most powerful force user ever of all time in history with or without his right arm he lost to count dooku right
Yes losing limbs doesn’t affect your potential
@@KeyIssues thank you
@@KeyIssuesDisney canon confirms it does limit potential
@@thomasthetank827yeah because of midichlorians per cell. Losing limbs means losing thousands and thousands of living cells
@@thomasthetank827 That's 100% untrue. There are multiple sources confirming that.
Have you considered doing a hypothetical vs battle between two Star Wars characters in canon where you scale each opponent to see who might win if they were to ever fight?
How do we know that Vader was taking the full force of a star or even a planet destroying amount of energy, wouldn’t Ochi get vaporized? Wouldn’t Exagol get vaporized? Also Sidious saying he’s all the Sith isn’t in reference to him having the power of all the Sith, as the Sith can’t persist after death in the way that certain Jedi can, same with Rey she has equal midichlorion potential to living Palpatine, so she didn’t need the extra power from the Jedi, it’s bad writing, but making sense of the quotes it’s just them saying they’re the only Jedi and Sith left
I agree with the Kyber thing but I think the All The Jedi thing is a clear boost and we know Sidious is at his prime here
I explain in the video that Sidious can’t destroy a star, so how would he vaporize Exegol?
It’s also confirmed in multiple sources that Sidious and Rey were channeling all the power of the Sith and Jedi respectively.
You can call it bad writing, but that’s what happened.
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I was so confused when the fortnite emote started playing 💀 was washing dishes looked over and I thought I skipped video by accident xD. But loved this video overall super enjoyable 😄
Great video! I love Anakin Skywalker, I think his thematic value in the world of Star Wars is unparalleled.
I know you don’t watch the CW, but I do wonder if you’ve got any interest in the second or third seasons of Superman and Lois? I think he might be strong enough to solo the MCU avengers.
Legitimate planetary feats
Legends Anakin Skywalker [And + Darth Vader] Is At Least 5 D Level.
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Honestly the what if Anakin stays on the light side would be more interesting for what it would mean for Luke and leia. Because if he stays he would still have to leave the order to be with padme.
I agree they should do what ifs I was always curious about what would Anakin do with all his power full potential while he was alive
Great vid.
In The New Canon in The Beginning of The film Attack of The Clones I would give Anakin a Jedi Holocron and a Sith Holocron so His Episode 3 Lightsaber has a Green Blade.
4:28 The comic clearly shows that it was Palpatine who manipulated the midichlorians to create Anakin. So, in canon, Maul and Dooku were just place holders until Anakin was of age.
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Id love to get your breakdown on Revan. Mostly cause I am a huge Revan fanboy, but also because I view him as the Anakin of his time, capable of both sides of the Force, mastering himself in a way only Anakin did. Plus the split into madness between spiritual death into the light and his physical darkside continuing on. However, I understand that Revan is mostly legends continuity and if you dont want to open that can of worms that's fair.
Awesome vid, can you tell me the source of these?
-The comic where Yoda moves a mountain
-The one with the huge kyber crystal powering the star destroyers
-Sidious destroying the universe in Legends
hey key issue do you think if qui gon jinn is the only jedi that could have saved anakin make him the strongest most powerful force user ever of all time in history save his mother allow him to be with padme right
Mace and Anakin would’ve been a great pair in my opinion.
@@KeyIssues and everything I said could’ve worked
Can you do a how powerful is Count Dooku video?
Will you be doing Baylan, Shin, Kanan Jarrus or Ezra (ahsoka series) scaling videos?
For full potential Anakin I'd use legends grandmaster Luke as a benchmark
Bro needs to do a how strong is starkiller video
We need one of these for mcu black widow
Do a how powerful is dceu Snyder cut Steppenwolf and uxas
The Thanos vs Darkseid video was basically this
Gas vid as always.
If Obi-Wan had loved him more as a boy and revered him less as an adult it might have been different.
I’ll play Raid Shadow Legends when snoop dog is introduced.
So basically Anakin while alive had the power output of a star to possibly low universal power on mortis.
Rest of the jedi did 20% power in the added anakin and luke did the rest of the 80%
Anakin is the one who knocks
@KeyIssues
Can you plz make one about how powerful is Invincible (Mark) or Omni man. Really appreciate
Will do 🫡
@@KeyIssues 🫡 thank you
Will you do a video on either Yoda or Sidious?
Hey, hey key issues, i saw the keyblade in the background. When we getting a kh power scaling vid? (deviloush grin because I don't have emojis)
it wasnt the world between worlds. it was a force vision that took place in her mind. force ghosts are always displayed as blue hued beings. and the world between worlds per dave is not time travel. they didnt go to ashokas past, they went to her memories.
Huh
@@KeyIssues ahsoka never left the ocean. she wasnt in the world between worlds. everyone location her and anakin went was her memory. anakin wasnt a force ghost. he was part of the force vision
@@qtindavis433 Ignoring the fact that it was VERY obvious she was in the world between worlds, the official Star Wars website has confirmed it multiple times "Ahsoka’s mystical experience culminates back in the World Between Worlds as she duels her old Master."
@@KeyIssues ignoring daves own words. howd she go to the past if the world between worlds doesnt time travel?? bc it was a force vision. everything happened on her mind. jacen even heard the vision while Ahsoka was still in the ocean.
she never left.
her master wasnt a force ghost.
it was all a force vision.
@@qtindavis433No it was anakin. 'I've heard that before" proves it was him.
Can you do a how stronger is scarlet witch after MOM please ?
good video (i just started it)
If he never lost to obi one and learned to use lighting
Make a viideo of Luke skywalkers power
Anakin is knightfall has already surpassed them as the canon book Skywalker family at war. Calls him stronger. " he couldn't blame palpatine who had helped him to become more powerful who had held him back". Also mace does have the anti feat of losing to darth Maul in a 2 v 1 with aayla in the son of dathomir comic which is canon and dooku shows superiority to said maul so at least he should be above mace. As his statement of being the strongest was early war and anakin grew more.
1. Knightfall is Darth Vader who was amped by the dark side, not Anakin.
2. Mace didn't lose that duel, he was knocked out by an explosion fired by someone outside of the duel. Mace wasn't tagged by Maul once.
Theres no inherent wealness to electricity within new canon. Palplatines lightning in rotj is not star desteoying levels.
Key issues I got a unrelated question, but I don’t see anyone bringing this up, shouldn’t DCEU Wonder Woman be around planatary level, considering AP = Duarbillity by newtons law, every action has a equal and opposite reaction,She headbutted Superman while stunning him and taking no damage, we know Superman is at least planatary, and l the mother boxes as well, not only that but Zeus lightning divided the mother box unity but steppenwolfs axe tanked Zeus lightning which should scale his axe to somewhere relative the the lightning that divided the mother boxes, the axe did nothing to Superman, but wonder woman’s headbutt stunned him, wouldn’t that at least upscale her duarbillity to around planatary ?
And couldn’t you upscale her speed to relative to justice league flash’s combat speed since she was able to hit Superman while he was looking directly at her but flash wasn’t
How strong are MCU guardians of the galaxy and can they beat phase 1 Avengers?
dooku beat mace in duels before. yoda doubted mace could fight dooku at the beginning of the clone wars but after mace got battle hardened, yoda thought mace stood a chance. dooku also started slowing down in his older age. the “dooku said he couldn’t beat mace” is always taken out of context. it was dooku being chased by multiple jedi, including mace. mace used shatterpoint to find out he could end the clone wars by killing dooku. but he couldn’t actually beat dooku.
1. Dooku has never beaten Mace in canon
2. Yoda never said Mace couldn’t beat Dooku in canon
3. Dooku wasn’t slowing down at all that’s just blatantly false
4. The comic book referenced is a Mace and Dooku 1v1
Amazing, everything you just said was wrong
@@KeyIssues key issues blatantly cherry picking facts. nothing new. you’re the same guy who said dooku and anakin had universal level attacks in their duel. yet their sabers bounce off a wall. guess starwars walls are universal level. amazing. as far as dooku vs mace, stupendous wave has a video mentioning everything I said. unlike you he cites his sources, which is why he has nearly quadruple the amount of subscribers.
@@UnroyalYeet uh key issues never said that 😂, I think you might be talking about crisis's vader video iirc. Also you clearly don't know the difference between attack potency and destructive capacity
@KeyIssues not a clear victory for Dooku, but it's clear he's a step ahead of Windu when they fought on Ridlay. Dooku lands the first clean hit, plays expert defense even when Windu has a purpose amp, and the whole time Dooku is playing defense he is antagonizing and revealing his Plan to Windu.
@@KeyIssuesFACTS👍👍👍👍
so is anakin like a force god? or jus still a force ghost?
obvs typing this while watching video but wanna hear others opinion.
It is balanced now 2 sith 2 Jedi
That’s not how balancing the force works
@@KeyIssues how it work?
@desmondmusgrow2588 the dark side is corrupts the force whilst the light side naturally flows with it
@@BATMAN-pp6wzThe Siths = Corrupt
Dark side ≠ corrupt
@@Pele701 The dark side is literally known to be addictive and corrupts the user if used for too long. Even dark side users who aren't sith like Taron Malicos become evil because the dark side took over him
Luke > Sidious > Yoda > Vader/Anakin > Windu > Dooku/Tyranus > Kenobi > Maul > Ashoka > Savadge > Greevous > Plo Kun > Qui Gun Jin > Kit Fisto > Ventress > Grand Inqusitor
Maul, Ahsoka, Savage, Grievous are stronger than Kenobi.
Maul defeated Dooku who regularly stomps Obi Wan. Dooku even tells Obi Wan that he is weaker on the level Qui Gon. Regarding both his losses to Obi Wan in TPM it's stated that not only was Maul stronger than the combined power of Qui Gon and Obi Wan but that he was toying around during the entire Duel Of Fates and could've killed him easily if he took him seriously. As for Rebels it's stated that Maul was severely weakened and went crazy after searching for Kenobi in the desert.
It's stated that the only characters who can fight Ahsoka are Sidious and Vader.
Like Dooku, Savage (who's weaker than Maul) was able to 1V2 both Anakin and Obi Wan.
Throughout the Clone Wars and in ROTS Grievous has been shown overpowering Kenobi and defeated him in their duel, and only lost because Obi Wan used The Force.
@@GeneFOX70 hahaha hahaha hahaha... Kenobi has won over Maul more times then the other way around, not to mention that ROTS Kenobi or New Hope Kenobi is more powerfull then he was at the time of the Clone Wars, Kenobi cut Savadge limbs when he fought against him and Maul together, Ashoka has lost to Vader where at least Kenobi has won a couple of times, Kenobi loses to Dooku beauce of his lightssaber stile, Kenobi fight with his brains and with his master defence lightssaber style, that works better against agressive opponets like Maul and Vader, not as good against Dookus calm nature. Kenobi has been selected to fight against Greevous for a reason, Mace, Yoda and Qui Gun Jin praise Kenobi for his accoplisments, and Dooku when he spoke to Kenobi tried to unbalance him, he respect his students opinion ... so you are apsoluty wrong when you say that Savadge, Greevous, Ashoka and Maul are more powerfull the Kenobi, while he is not close to the power of the Grandmasters (Yoda and Luke), the Chosen one and so on.
Your darth Vader scaling video was very detailed that I can’t help but ask can you do the same for Batman (if it’s literally possible)
comics batman?
@@KeyIssues yeah that version
So are we just assuming that Sidious was using 100% of his power to torture Luke? If that's the case, surely Luke would instantly be dust?
Kenobi did the galaxy a favour on mustafar
Or else it would have been a different story 😂😂😂
Nice beard bro 👌 👍 😎
Thanks
I'd say...not too terribly powerful if his entire shtick can be erased by an untrained alley rat.
What animation is used around 7:04? Where can I watch it?
So you mean to tell me Yoda is somehow strong enough to move mountains yet Palpatine (his former equal) with a little bit of time got to star level.... I am gonna pretend that is not dumb
20+ years is a little bit of time?
Disney is the one true power, just ask lucas😂
Lucas is very happy to be a retired billionaire
Where are those anime clips from?
Galaxy of Adventures
Yes, he has unlimited power
Lucas screwed up his story should have followed the writers that kept his franchise going he turned into what he complained about Hollywood always do weird to ignore the stories in the comics.
He’s a Luke, Kylo and Rey victim
Wasted potential. All of his descendants surpasssed him in Legends. In canon his legacy was erased by Rey and Sidious' return. Anakin was weaker than Armored Vader. Yes he did have the potential to be one of the most powerful force users rivalling the Ones and Abeloth... but he NEVER reached that potential.
Nah Anakin > kylo easily.
My opinion Vader should honestly be below Anakin as movies alone he doesn't do that much to be impressive and narratively it makes more sense Vader lost so much that even his power he use to have is far from his reach but disney will not let that happen. Like it feels weird and wrong Luke somehow got stronger than his old man in 4 years while his old man had 13 years to get strong
In Movies Yes, But Not Overall.
😅
@@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б Why shouldn't he
@@Redoren966 In Comics And Novels Vader Surpassed Anakin In Power, But Not In Potential
@@ДмитрийРубежов-э1бVader says he did but in terms of feats he does not and the one he did pul thats greater is through prep and very dumb means
@@Redoren966 Feats And Statements Of Vader >
Bro Cry About It.
In Disney cannon rey brought balance to the force
He hasn’t beaten Obi Wan. His original master was the strongest 😂
Not sure if you saw the first movie or not, but he killed Obi-Wan
@@KeyIssues he allowed himself to be killed.
@@hastensavoir7782the novelisaton of the movie gave more context to the fight and Obi Wan was struggling badly against vader
Anakin only probably would have matched them but not surpassed them and I say not even matched them. Dooku was holding back each time. The only time eh started to be serious is seconds before he lost but it was seconds and too late by the time Anakin grabbed his hands but it was too late. Now Anakin didnt train much in the utilization of the force but lightsaber combat more than anything. He should have been instructed to focus on applying and understanding all the force
Na Anakin already surpassed Dooku by a Lot in dark disciple he almost killed him. You are underestimanting Anakin.
@@astar2641 he didn't and you didn't read canon and non canon said he could have beat Anakin up until he allowed himself to get tired and Anakin did surpass him during the time he got angry
@@jamest1242r then why in the same novel Is Anakin claimed to be the strongest Jedi by one other than Mace windu. Also, why Dooku himself acknowledged that if he did not get serious to fight both Anakin and Obi wan he would get killed after they changes to their true forms of lightsaber combat. And Dooku himself claims Anakin to be stronger this Is just faboyism towards Dooku. And Is evident you are a hater of Anakin.
@@astar2641 bro Anakin is my favorite character for my own personal reasons and I can sympathize with him. Him and the Skywalkers besides many other EU characters are my favorite so save all that bs. They started in their old fighting stances to throw Dooku off. I read them all bro. Dooku lightsaber had the ability to switch length without going out and he could have had used that to kill Anakin or wound him. Dooku was instructed after Geonosis to not harm Anakin fatally or cut off anymore of his limbs even though palpatine loved he cut his arm off because it benefitted Anakin. He had to go wash all the way until the last duel where he didn't want to die but found it was far too late at that point when Anakin actually tapped to far into the dark side after obi wan was hurt and unconscious. It was all over at that point.
@@jamest1242r for that same reason Anakin surpassed Dooku Is stated in canon Also Anakin Grew in power and knightfall Vader Is More powerful than him and Mace. Yoda Is still above him but Anakin after His transformation Is above both of them. Also Dave Filoni Said Anakin was on pair with Dooku In season 4 given His trayectory Anakin in a few days to control the Darkside would Been More powerful than both Yoda and sidious why Anakin lost to Obi wan if he Is a Lot More powerful than him, because His state of mind was horrible after he choked padme, was sleep deprived and had not estén in days.
How strong is the chosen one? Doesn't matter he is not stronger than Rey, smh
THE CHOSEN ONE WAS A LOSER WHO KEPT LOSING TO OBI WAN LOL. HE issint that powerful
it’s well established that confliction really weakens force users.
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Annakin ain't anywhere near as powerful as the REAL chosen one, Rey Palpatine-Skywalker.
1st
Old man palpy is def stronger than Vader.
He survived the massive explosion from the death star. Vader was barley standing after he got shocked after he stuck his finger in palpys electrical outlet.
He didnt, Palpatine died and his spirit entered into a clone body
Answer: weaker than the weakest Vader, and weaker than count dooku
he beat dooku 💀
lol
@@Raimi54420 dark side amped anakin beat dooku, and if u recall from the official novelization, it’s stated beforehand that sidious told dooku to hold back to not harm anakin (I believe)
@@Mikerille anakin amped himself by tapping into the darkside so that is irrelevant, even in the clone wars anakin came close to beating dooku and that was a weaker version of ani, wether dooku was holding back or not anakin is clearly stronger
@@Raimi54420 “whether dooku was holding back or not anakin is clearly stronger” ahh yes…that’s why a holding back dooku only lost to a dark side amp. Anakin was weaker.
Stopped watching as soon as you shouted out raid shadow legends. Sick of them overtaking youtube.
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Rey Skywalker is more powerful based on movie feats which are the ultimate canon. She could easily kill Vader/Anakin with force lightning and has been shown to be able to lift objects way heavier than anything we have seen from Vader/Anakin and also is able to channel spirits of all former jedi and so would be able to use their skills to out-duel Vader/Anakin as well. She really has more claim to being the chosen one in Disney Canon
Good joke
@@Jordanthomas95 Not a joke. Its canon.
@@Arclight104 sure bud