Basically why us Luke fans got so p*ssed at TLJ, lol. "What were you expecting? Me to come back and defeat the First Order with only my lazer sword?" - Freaking, yes!
What gets me about him saying that is he has essentially done that before, on screen. He's been on the front lines, he's fought dark lords, he's known the majors battles of the rebellion. Why would he suddenly just be like "haha the dark side is too powerful, you can't stand up against them" to me that's just an insult to the old movies and his character development.
I would accepted the Rey trilogy as different trilogy. Like Star Wars Chap 1:Force awakens, Chap 2:Last Jedi, Chap 3:Rise of Skywalker?. Chap 1: Awakening in the force(Rey is a daughter of a cloned Palp or cloned Luke(Luuke Starkiller). Chap 2: Last Jedi : The last Jedi to escape the Jedi purge. Chap 3: Rise of Skywalker(Clone).
Yes. Not a dried up, washed out, depressed bumming version of the Grand Master Jedi, Luke. Who we all wanted to see come back with epic Jedi-force powers that blew our fucking minds. With new ideas that didn't involve re-hashing old antagonists, and used up ideas because they lacked the ability to compose something new and interesting. Disney may have an unlimited budget, but their imagination is way to limited for all the money they care to spend.
Honestly, Luke was always powerful in the EU, even before he became Grand Master of the order. I remember in Dark Empire, he collapsed an imperial walker with a gesture and he had just become a Jedi Master by that point.
It's a shame what Disney has done to his character. Luke was so powerful, he terrified The Ones, who are family that are living embodiments of the force
Exactly !!! Well said f**k disneys punk A$$E$ for what they've done to Star Wars...i was just saying all this to my wife!..may force be with you...Peace!
The thing about Legends Luke was, he got progressively more powerful. Episode Six Luke wouldn't be able to do the things Dark Empire Luke did. Dark Empire Luke couldn't do what Black Fleet Crisis Luke could do. Then in the Hand of Thrawn, Mara helps him realize he's flexing his power so much. He wasn't hearing the guidance of The Force. He toned it down just to became more balanced and wise. In time for the Vong invasion. In that war he became even more powerful. But Vong Luke couldn't do what New Jedi Order Luke could do. Forty years of his life just to become OP enough. He willed himself back into existence when the raw power of a Force Monolith vaporized him.
@@TheCookster64 they're... Hard to like. So many characters & things do a complete 180, then there's all the destruction. The story is good, but it's like they raised the stakes way too high...
Like.... holy shit. That's awesome. He Probably just rebuilt himself with the force and stitched himself back together perfectly as a force ghost allowing his spirit to reenter his body.
@@imthejman85 Don't even get me started on that. On the other hand, at least he died like a boss, and not the way most Badasses in SW go down... I mean killing him off was stupid, but he was capped with a *moon*
Shatterpoint was also a specialty of his great grandson Cade Skywalker, who was so proficient in it; he could both destroy and heal using the shatterpoints.
@@blackc1479 beskar is just the idea of mando iron, cortorsis and sith alchemy treated metal smashed together. In EU Exar Kun used hus light saber to cut his way through a door made of the stuff so it didn't become lightsaber proof until somebody mixed up the ideas. If you read prior to Episode one the Dooku before he went dark side took out a whole squad of like 16 Mando soldiers in full armor with his light saber alone. It was meant to be something one could compare to titanium not some invincible get out of jedi trouble free card. If it was as powerful as claimed the mandolorians would have taken over the galaxy not gotten wiped out.
@@danielessex2162 Well I always saw it as being more about being resistant to blaster fire so against those using blasters you would be better off. But even then a Jedi is trained to aim for the vulnerable areas hence people losing hands, arms, legs, and heads. When looking at Mando armor there are plenty of areas for a Jedi to exploit. Plus prolonged blaster fire or continuous contact with a lightsaber can literally cook the Mando inside.
Personally I've always felt his ability to deal with the dark side to be his stand out power. For most of his early post Endor stories until after Thrawn, he's not just flirting with the dark side, he's over there with a box of wine & rubbers every weekend. Yet it never fully sucks him in. Not even Reven, with all of his power could get that close without crossing the line.
For myself, Luke's greatest powers have always been his kindness, compassion, and sheer generosity. His belief that Dark-side users can be redeemed, and returned to the Light. (Before Luke turned his father back, had any of the Jedi ever even tried?) Changing people's hearts and lives, beats manipulating a black hole any day.
if you want to go by legends, plenty of dark-side users were turned back into the light..although at times, not always the most "civilized" method. examples: ulic qaal droma- was redeemed to the lightside after having his connection to the Force quite literally forcefully severed by Nomi Sunrider. Revan- Mind wiped/erased and then basically brainwashed into serving the light. ofc, after he gained his memories back, he stayed true to the light side of the Force. after the battle of yavin (BBY/ABY is the official legends timeline i think?)there were a number of dark jedi who redeemed themselves with help from other jedi: -Mara Jade Skywalker (luke's wife in legends, was part of the emperor's hand but eventually fell for luke and turned to the light) -Zekk (jaina solo turned him back to the light) -Luke himself even, fell to the dark, but eventually came back to the light. fighting the emporer's immortal spirit, no less. -Cade Skywalker turned back to the light when he did what anakin could not: injecting all of his love and power into the force, neither purely light OR dark, and saving his loved one from certain death. not once, but twice. in fact, a lot of the jedi who fell to the dark, and then were redeemed in the light, were skywalkers. they had a tendency to succumb at least temporarily to the dark, but ALWAYS found there way back to the light. the one exception would be Darth Caedus, aka; Jacen Solo, who never truly found redemption/turned back to the light. even in death he didnt really return to the light i dont think.
In my opinion, Legends is the true time line not this BS that Disney created. Luke is certainly beyond badass when it came down to Force and lightsaber proficiency. He basically achieved the power of a Force spirit in mortal form. If it was up to me, I would have had Luke portrayed in a different light in the newer films with a major influences from Legends that certainly would have pleased fans more. Thanks for sharing, have a Wicked Force day. Be safe.😁👍👽👽🤓
@@imthejman85 Honestly never saw the rest of the continued sequels. I saw the Force Awakens, it was ok, but I was not impressed by it. I do know the scene you are referring to, which I thought was very bizarre. But my main point is I never liked the way that this Luke was portrayed in these continuation films. In my opinion, Luke was portrayed as a complete cop out and who just gave up. I believe that the Legends Luke would never have given up and would have fought on in the face of adversity. That's my thoughts on that.
@@michaelhearson Honestly, you didn't miss much, and that's coming from someone that fanboyed over SW his whole life. I owned basically every SW book ever printed up to when the third trilogy movies were being released. Once they pulled the EU out of canon and butchered pretty much all the characters I was raised on, I stopped caring.
@@imthejman85 I certainly agree, I'll watch the other films down the road eventually just out of principle. I've always have been a huge Sci Fi geek as a kid growing up and as adult. But when certain powers in place start adding SJW and Woke agendas to a Star Wars narrative it ruins the experience for me. Because in my view point what does Earth based SJW or Woke agendas have anything to do with Star Wars anyway. As we all know the main narrative is set in a complete alien galaxy in the distance past. If you want to view it through a realistic-ish perspective.
I love hearing about Grandmaster Luke Skywalker. I'd also like to hear about the powers, feats and abilities of other legends characters if possible. Such as Mara Jade, Lumiya, Kyle Katarn, and Leia. And no need to keep it limited to force users are there any crazy feats that Wedge Antilles or Han Solo or Talon Karrde has done that we don't know about?
Yes, yes... and a side by side Leia and Luke comparation. I also see Leia so near to Luke's powers or even greater in the force. It's like Leia draws more from Anakin and Luke from Padme. Don't take me wrong, I love them all (if not on Disney sequels).
I think that Luke kinda disregarded the traditional jedi teachings and embraced a balanced grey jedi stance. Giving him abilities on both sides without the light or dark extremes giving him more power and he clearly showed that. Honestly with the massive achievements it made Yoda and mace windu look like younglings. Truly impressive
Thank you for this one.. It meant SO much hear someone talk about MY Luke Skywalker after years of watching Disney's doppelganger.. It brought back me and my 2 closest friends ( whom we shared and passionately read with one another) rushing through the book so we could pass it to the next so we could set up till 2-3 in the morning talking about them.. Thank you for making this one remember and feel that again
This OG Luke is the one and ONLY Luke: the one I grew up with. He fought a returned Palpatine that can summon wormholes and Force Storms, fought Abeloth and lived, held a black hole, spanked the Lady of the Sith, and many other feats. This Disney Star War Luke is just a terrible mockery of a legacy.
Luke Skywalker is the hope of the universe! Thus is why he is the most powerful jedi! In any canon Luke Skywalker is the one! EU Luke Skywalker will always be the true story of him!😔✊
@@soccerboi4207 with Disney at the helm it'll get ruined. Best we could hope for is fan made YT shorts and even that'll be based more off 7-9 and that stupid rebels show.
@@danielessex2162 This guy is doing a good job bring legends to life with limited resources. If only Disney get the message and make the their MOVIES legends, we all be happy. ruclips.net/user/DarthAngelus
Watching this just makes me more abrasive towards 7,8,9...the possibilities were endless for Luke and the way they'd finish the Skywalker saga...but hey we're only the paying fanatics who kept star wars alive all these years what do we know🙈🙉🙊
The legends is quite clear that Luke is an OP Force user. There’s a scene in Shadows of the Empire where Vader says he doubts that Luke’s growth in the force could be stopped after learning about some of his feats during that book…and that’s after his few months of training with Yoda on Dagobah. It stands to reason, therefore, that this development would continue posthaste as the Galaxy calms down for him with the Sith dead and him having a bit more time to find new students and materials to study.
Well it did help with Mara Jade that she kills his clone in the Thrawn series and thus the Emperor's Voice leaves Mara's mind once and for all. Great video love looking at how powerful Luke is
Seeing the outpouring of love here for Legends Luke, and knowing that Mark Hamill is putting in work with Dave Filoni and the rest of the talent behind The Mandalorian gives me... dare I say... Hope :')
He was great in the EU, and even inspired me in part to go into teaching. He was the ultimate warrior/scholar - powerful and wise but also able to teach that power and wisdom to others. Attaching him to the theme of failure and making him an attempted murderer in Disney Canon was just a character assassination. Like you said: Luke’s power came from his unwavering kindness and will to do the right thing. I didn’t need to see Disney Luke pulling black holes open, but I did need to see him be good and kind to his students. Breaking that character the way they did was really a tragic decision, and it’s one that I hope they see the need to make up for. If they give us a Luke and Grogu show, that’s a chance for them to show Luke as he is meant to be.
I know he's a bit overhyped by this point, but I kinda wanna see how a pre-MMO Revan would stack up to Grandmaster Luke. I say pre-MMO because I believe that the events and details given to Revan by the Old Republic MMO kinda messed him up, capping his potential power and removing a lot of intentional ambiguity. I mean, imagine that kinda battle: the legendary Revan Reborn, only force user to have full mastery and control of both sides of the force, and be equally skilled in all forms of combat(including hand-to-hand: Revan is famously capable of besting Echani warriors), versus Grandmaster Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi of all time, and true inheritor of the power of the Chosen One.
It is not even close. I love Revan as a character, but during KOTOR he caps at about Mace Windu and Dooku (maybe slightly below them). That is no mean feat. Mace and Dooku were some of the greatest Jedi in the Order's history, and were tied in third place for their era (Yoda is number 2 and Sidious is numero uno). Grandmaster Luke is as far beyond him as Revan is beyond the likes of Darth Maul. Revan is great, but he likely doesn't even make the top 20 list of most powerful characters. That said, I get the feeling they would likely not even fight. They'd probably just sit down and discuss the Force and philosophy, or military strategy and tactics, as well as some of their victories. Some more fun matchups (in my opinion) would be Revan vs Kreia (the student versus the master), Revan vs Kyle Katarn (both famous masters of both the Light and the Dark), and Revan vs Inquisitor Jerec (both have a bit of character overlap and have a preference for the Force over martial prowess). Apologies if this got a bit ranty, I kind of grew up on Legends material. I don't know Disney Canon outside of the films and shows, but if you want information on the Classic EU I either know it or where to find it.
@@austinkersey2445 u are forgetting revans greatest strength. Solving problems with unknown options! Lol. Luke and revan have allot more similarities than differences if u really think about it. Id put revan much higher as his knowledge on both sides was unmatched. Palps would kill whole systems for the knowledge revan choose to forget. Interesting and good points u make though. We can still agree its worthy of a video! 😊
@@pranc236 I mean yeah, Revan's primary strength is being a highly capable problem solver. His issue is that he is never the strongest, the fastest, or really the most capable physical combatant in any arena. He had knowledge, that is not up for debate. The vastness of it is. He doesn't have the most showings, and while the knowledge we have seen him to have is impressive, it isn't like Palpatine's entire Sith compendiums and asteroid-sized libraries. And, from viewing both, Palpatine definitely had more in his repertoire in both the Force and in Lightsaber combat. Revan is versatile, intelligent, and a master strategist. I just don't think he's more intelligent or smarter than Luke. And none of his other qualities make up the difference. Especially since Luke is so much stronger, faster, and possessed a better sense for combat than Revan, and had many more physical augmentation feats that are more impressive than Revan's, that he would simply speed blitz the poor man in a duel. Revan is an all-time great, but he isn't *the* all-time great. He's probably in the top 30 somewhere with his apprentice, Darth Malak (I think people are overly harsh on the man by making too many negative comparisons to Revan).
@@austinkersey2445 revan is the unlikely underdog that always seemed to come out on top. Maybe luck was better than skill. But he had both. Not arguing that revan would beat luke. I dont think he would. I dont even think they would fight. Luke has all the traits revan respected highly. Would be more of a sparing match than anything else. Revan did defeat the greatest foe, even though it took his own sacrifice to do it. His physical strength may have not been the greatest but his mental matched a being over 1000 years old for 300 years. Be honest now. Valkorion stronger or weaker than sidious?
I remember in the Legends book: Truce at Bakura. He was in the middle of a freaking battle, found a force sensitive who’s memories were blocked by the alien race, DURING FIGHTING he released the block, got stunned, while unconscious, force controlled a servant to the aliens, disabled the power and destroyed the device they were going to put him in and then started fighting. Note this was about a few months AFTER Endor. He also managed to get into the consciousness of one of the star fighters of the enemy and managed to convince them to do a suicide run to destroy the fleet.
Perhaps the saddest moment in Star Wars is how Luke was betrayed as looser in The Last Jedi. It really pissed me off. But, seeing him in the Mandalorian was EPIC! I'm still pissed at Disney but I feel slightly less pissed.
I was so fucking angry when I was watching that The Last Jedi, and after that scene I spent the entire movie cursing Rhian Johnson for creating such a piece of shit film. i fucking hate that guy so much
That was what bugged me about the "new" Luke in the Boba Fett series: knowing the story of the Legends Luke and seeing the New Luke's insistence on adherence to old Jedi dogma and tradition that I thought the REAL Luke, the one talked about in this video, would see as being highly unnecessary and even counterintuitive to being a Jedi.
True, but I could actually see Legends Luke offering Grogu a similar choice. By which i mean, letting Grogu follow his own path in the force. It is my understanding that Luke often encouraged his students to go out into the galaxy and connect with people. To follow their own path in the Force as a Jedi should. So who is to say that Grogu was not meant to be among Mandos similar to Tar Vizla, the first Mandalorian Jedi?
In one of the books I read he found the lost fleet of dreadnought star destroyers and was able to command the 30 ship fleet in combat through the force! That's some serious power!
Luke’s own show played by Sebastian Stan. Plot lines like reborn emperor, the lost tribe of the sith, the Vong, Thrawn, or even just rebuilding the Jedi order, possibly listening to stories of the old republic in Luke’s pursuit to become Grand Master.
I heard Luke was so powerful at mind control that he was once able to get over 200 children to eat vegetables without complaining. And his telekinesis was so strong that he was able to pick up Legos off the floor faster than those 200 children could scatter them, and was even able to keep them from dumping their juice boxes on the carpet at the same time. AMAZING!
Naaah, impossible. OK he's powerful and has unlimited knowledge of the force, but there's limits to what even he could do and what I can believe. Keep them from spilling their juice boxes, 😂 who told you that crap.
How could we have been denied this version of Luke and this version of Star Wars on the big screen? This is infinitely better than whatever Disney could ever think of
My favorite lightsaber battle is in return of the Jedi when he faces Darth Vader near the end of the movie. The fight with Darth is one of the most basic and power based fights in any movie. Very realistic and raw. Most people will say it's not the best. It's just my opinion concerning sword fights that I grew up with. The hatred used with control by Luke to overpower Vader is iconic!
I feel like the encouraging attachment is really good for a time, many turned to the dark side because of their inability to make attachments, but at the same time losing those attachments would launch them so much further to the dark side. Idk if he trained them all to appreciate the "there is no death" side of it all but if he didnt seems like it could end badly...
Well I think he tried to encourage the development of emotional intelligence, sure if you lose attachments you'll be hurt and grieve, but if you have some emotional intelligence instead of being just an innocent soul like jedis where, you'll know how to ease the pain eventually, move on and become wiser, you might have some problems with negative emotions here and there, but you won't be sucked in by the dark side completely.
It would have been so cool if the bombardment and Luke's final fight with Ren near the end of the Last Jedi had really been Luke, in the flesh...When he walked calmly out of the smoke and fire, reaching up to flick away some small bit off of his tunic, with an expression of complete disdain on his face...Classic!! I get that Ren needed to return to Ben via Rey turning him back, but it would have been something to see for Luke to have defeated him decisively in that fight...Like a Jedi version of taking Ren "behind the woodshed" to knock some sense into him...Just my opinion, that's all...
As much as most of us would love to see it, it'll never come to pass that he's portrayed this way in "canon". I feel like the latest movies butchered this character beyond repair and as excited as I am to potentially see more of him in "The Mandalorian" and beyond, I just don't think he'll ever be what he was in the EU. As far as who else I'd like to see, it would have to be my favorite EU character, Kyp Durron.
Personally i dont want to see that version of luke on the big screen unless its the last time we see him. The minute you make a character as powerful as EU Luke you lose all tension in the story
The act that just floored me was looks ethereal palace floating in the air on Curoscant "can't remember the spelling but I'm sure you know where I mean" I just remember reading that and being awed. He literally as best I can remember, it's been a minute, he had created a copy of Vader's Palace literally built out of the force. Han landed in it, and went to speak with Luke, but he just got out of the ship, and the Palace took Han to Luke, meaning the entire Palace moved around Han who was still, until he was standing in a totally different area in front of Luke, plus the only way Han knew the Palace was there is because Luke had made it visible to him. It was invisible to everyone else, unless Luke let them see it.
My son is called Luke. Can’t believe they portrayed him in the film of someone who had lost hope! He was a beacon of light the embodiment of positivity to not understand this is to not be a Star Wars fan
Luke brings Vader back from the dark side. Loves Mara jade despite having wanted to kill him. Brings Kyp Durron back from the dark side. Literally luke himself comes back from the dark side. Almost kills his nephew because he had a bad dream. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄🙄 Gosh I hate what the new movies did to Luke.
I like how narrator describing Luke as the literal crossbreed between superman and goku and simultaneously the scenes from original trilogy shown where he's handling lightsaber like a cripple.
I heard his appearance on the battlefield in the 7th movie called doppelganger. But its essentially battle meditation. Which was an old technique during the hyperspace wars.
do you think that they are called "legends" because they are not real? just stories like myths? manipulating a black holes gravitational power seems fairly absurd. that is like dismissing a sun by waving your hand.
honestly i think his 1 of his greatest feats is never brought up and that when he opened up a hole to an alternate universe to send an extradiminsional alien named waru back home in the book the crystal star
Luke is so underrated when it comes to his power, because in the films he's still an untrained and unexperienced boy, but still he managed to defeat Darth Vader and turn him to the light when he was not even a Jedi Master!!
You forgot to mention how insanely Overpowered he was whilst using Force Push... I mean he used it to Wipe Out an Entire Army (15,000 if memory serves, but feel free to correct me if I goofed 🙂)
I respect the opinions of people on here, and correct me if I miss a few things as I never read a lot of legends but was aware of them as a child. I was a little disappointed by the fact that Disney didn’t use the source material. After all why focus on all the old characters? I still like them and will continue to watch but there are mew characters they could use. Still, surely new interpretations are a good thing really. Besides isn’t Luke from Legends a little too overpowered to the extent of bordering on Superman levels? Isn’t that boring or did they manage to still make him vulnerable? Just a debate, no need for pitchforks.
@@joshm8737 What the books did was power-scale Luke's enemies and focus more on making his family and friends vulnerable. Luke at his most powerful was basically a deity, and so Legends continuity made the Yuuzhan Vong and Abeloth (Basically an all-powerful Lovecraftian god) to keep it fair. Personally, seeing stuff like him effortlessly decimating an AT-AT with the swipe of a hand was cool. It was just reading time after time after time when Han, Leia, Mara Jade, Chewie, Lando, Jacen, Jaina, Anakin and Ben get kidnapped. That trope got old fast. As for the source material, the Sequel Trilogy to my surprise borrowed several big plot points from the books. It just made it worse. Kylo Ren's story is almost verbatim Jacen Solo's story. Palpatine being supernaturally still alive on a dark evil planet with a gigantic fleet of Star Destroyers is straight out of Dark Empire. The Legends continuity also had new characters that became fan favorites. Booster Terrik, Pallaeon, Mara Jade, Xizor, The Imperial Warlords, every single character from the X-Wing books, etc. I highly recommend the Thrawn Trilogy and the X-Wing series to start with. I hated reading books in school, and that got me into reading.
Layne Bosler thank you for taking the time to explain why Legends was so interesting. I find that the whole sequel and Legends debate causes a lot of friction, so it’s refreshing to have a discussion about it. That is why it was refreshing to introduce my girlfriend to more Star Wars as she had a blank canvas. My experiences of Legends stems from The Dark Forces games and Kyle Katarn’s story. Jedi Academy abs whatnot. I like that aspect of the story, and Mara Jade sounds cool. I’ll have to check out Thrawn. Thank you.
@@Pwnhenge1997 I haven’t read alot of legends so I don’t know much of the details of Jacen Solo’s story, but from watching videos, it seems to me that his story has more depth and detail than Kylo Ren’s story. Didn’t he join the dark side because he had a vision of a new dark lord of the sith (darth Krayt) and he wanted to accumulate as much power as possible in order to thwart him? Plus I feel like there was alot more material on him as a jedi which probably made it more interesting to watch him fall to the dark side in comics/books bc you get to know his character more. With Kylo, I feel like you get less of that characterization in the sense that you understand why he fell to the dark side and what his ultimate goals are. The movies focus more on his relationship with Rey and his desire to surpass vader (who eventually turned to the light side anyways- never really understood why Kylo looked up to vader so much anyways) than his character on his own. Plus, when they did characterize him, to me it felt like he was kinda just an impulsive teenager. His character didn’t really impress me (although ig that’s up to personal taste) and he never really felt like a true sith to me, whereas from what little I know about Jacen Solo, he seems like the real big bad, especially considering he killed Mara Jade. I mean tbf Kylo did kill his dad but his character never gave me the badass sith vibes. Again, maybe it just comes down to personal preference, but Jacen Solo’s character tends to impress me more than Kylo Ren- let me know if you agree or not
I would love to see a Luke Skywalker show and a series all about Luke Skywalker and his journeys after return of the Jedi and all the enemies he fought
I still believe that Luke was the chosen one. If Anakin had been the chosen one the emperor would’ve stayed dead. It was Luke who ended up defeating him As well as continuing to keep the balance afterwards.
Well Anakin was the chosen one, he brought balance in a way, but then the darkside was too op, so the force basically manisfested the chosen's one power to Luke, who as able to carry those powers to the limit unlike his father.
If they make another series with Luke they should just animate it in the clone wars/rebels/bad batch style I think they could do a lot with it and they could use it to show more details as to why he considered killing Ben and why he isolated himself
That should be scrapped in my opinion considering what it's foundations are based on. Making Luke and men look bad and women OP. That had nothing to do with Star Wars.
Luke being able to displace the master servos makes sense. He was a skilled technician, a skill not exactly common amongst Jedi due to their starting at a young age. So it's not surprising that he could manipulate parts that he understood were there when other Jedi Masters couldn't manipulate them.
The Dark Nest series spelled out Luke's most awesome Jedi powers. However as long as DISNEY and Kathleen Kennedy are sh!tting upon him Luke will never be revealed as the most fantastic Light side Force User ever to be called a Jedi.
There is still a 30-35 year time period in the "Disney Canon" that can show us a full powered Grand Master Luke having adventures across the galaxy and recruiting Padawans into his Jedi Order/ Academy. If handled right, this series could rebuild the trust with lapsed fans and (at least attempt) to make sense of the deeply controversial ST.
Especially because he IS really powerful in the sequel movies. He projected a full apparition of himself from across the galaxy, in full view of everybody, with a full Force presence that Leia and Kylo could feel enough that they thought he was physically there. It would be amazing to show him in the years before he gave up.
There's no way in hell I'll ever trust Disney with star wars. Idgaf about the Mandalorian or their version of Boba Fett. I might like them but as a far as I'm concerned, they're not canon. Since they were created by Disney.
Good Lord, what Disney have done with Star Wars, and how they were so mean spirited towards the OG characters, out of malice, arrogance, ignorance, is hard to fathom. The stories in in the Legends canon would have been incredible.
Luke Skywalker, the great Jedi who assumed the knowledge and powers of Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Vader. What a powerful Jedi master he would become. Unfortunately, Disney yanked that rug out from under us. We never got to witness the insane powers of master Luke, because it was not empowering to women. I get that Disney wanted to attract more females to its audience, but they didn't have to kill off all out childhood hero's like fragile little subjugates to a woman's fantasy of dominating the universe, un-paralleled. I had no issue with Rey's character. I thought she was beautiful and powerful, strong with the force, and a very cool protagonist for the ending franchise. But in the second episode where where all the men turned to pussies, and the women had to take control of the rebellion, because the men were just to stupid to maintain their own human needs, like breathing air to survive, or feeding themselves. It was just turned into a blatant attack on the sex of men as a whole species, especially at the end when all the man hating lesbians started making out with each other to celebrate the destruction of the male species. If that is not so blatantly biased, I don't know what else could ever come so close. It is a travesty that Disney chose to use such a globally celebrated franchise to force their extreme feminist ways of thinking on all of us. Using none less than a literal fire-hose to turn away all male fans from their beloved childhood escape. If you want to prove a point about male/female history, that invent something original that doesn't divide the sex's into a revolt of warfare. Assholes! It was painful to watch as Disney assassinated the great Jedi Master of George Lucas's dreams only to force their extreme feminist point of view down our throats. Jesus F!@#$%G Christ, you could have gone with a different platform. Now this leaves all Five Billion Star Wars fans begging for a do-over, because Disney completely fucked it all up with their political issues.
Hmm, I'm not sure which version of Luke I like better, the powerful legends Luke, or the Luke that tried to kill his unarmed nephew, ran away and became a hermit drinking blue milk from an alien boob, got owned by Leia and Rey, and of course died of a heart attack or something from that thing he did in TLJ...
Luke traveled the galexy looking for holocrons, he learned techniques used by the knights of the old republic. He learned old lost techniques. To my knowladge he is widely considered the strongest jedi to exist.
Will if ANAKIN know how to Control the dark side in him and not let the Dark Side take Control of his soul he would be Darth Vader, and he would got a purple light saber,or when he Betrayed Master windu,he could cut master Windu hand off like he did to Count Duku, that is how he could get Master Windu Light Saber
This further illustrates how badly Johnson handled Luke. Which great powers is he left with in TLJ? Force projection for one minute, getting his ass beat by an untrained girl and then proceeding to drop dead. Episode 8 is a war crime
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Basically why us Luke fans got so p*ssed at TLJ, lol. "What were you expecting? Me to come back and defeat the First Order with only my lazer sword?" - Freaking, yes!
Not the only reason. So many issues with that movie and the sequel trilogy in general.
What gets me about him saying that is he has essentially done that before, on screen. He's been on the front lines, he's fought dark lords, he's known the majors battles of the rebellion. Why would he suddenly just be like "haha the dark side is too powerful, you can't stand up against them" to me that's just an insult to the old movies and his character development.
The word "lazer sword" sums up the sequel trilogy just about right.
@@peace_love_unity Though Obi Wan did use the term in part IV, so it's not wrong of him to say that.
Palpatine still didn't reveal himself until luke passed. Luke was more powerful.
Now THIS is Luke!!!!! I'd pay to see a series with THIS Luke!!!
Amen
I would accepted the Rey trilogy as different trilogy. Like Star Wars Chap 1:Force awakens, Chap 2:Last Jedi, Chap 3:Rise of Skywalker?.
Chap 1: Awakening in the force(Rey is a daughter of a cloned Palp or cloned Luke(Luuke Starkiller).
Chap 2: Last Jedi : The last Jedi to escape the Jedi purge. Chap 3: Rise of Skywalker(Clone).
You don't think he was crazy in the ST? I thought he was crazy.
I agree. If there was a series or movie of Luke at his prime that would be amazing.
Yes. Not a dried up, washed out, depressed bumming version of the Grand Master Jedi, Luke. Who we all wanted to see come back with epic Jedi-force powers that blew our fucking minds. With new ideas that didn't involve re-hashing old antagonists, and used up ideas because they lacked the ability to compose something new and interesting. Disney may have an unlimited budget, but their imagination is way to limited for all the money they care to spend.
Honestly, Luke was always powerful in the EU, even before he became Grand Master of the order. I remember in Dark Empire, he collapsed an imperial walker with a gesture and he had just become a Jedi Master by that point.
It's a shame what Disney has done to his character. Luke was so powerful, he terrified The Ones, who are family that are living embodiments of the force
@@jaylicator hence the disney sw; are not my sw.
Facts
@@aztecklover69 honestly though Luke kind of sucked in his movies. He didn't display such incredible power even before the new trilogy
@@ChrisAssassin I feel sad for u
Legend Era Luke is the Luke we all deserved...damn you Disney
Exactly !!! Well said f**k disneys punk A$$E$ for what they've done to Star Wars...i was just saying all this to my wife!..may force be with you...Peace!
@@donyalerobinson3874 the only people ive seen that actually like the new sequel films are kids, disney royally fucked over this great franchise
Damn right.
True! Long live to EU, the true Canon.
@@robertocaetano4945 the european union?
The thing about Legends Luke was, he got progressively more powerful. Episode Six Luke wouldn't be able to do the things Dark Empire Luke did. Dark Empire Luke couldn't do what Black Fleet Crisis Luke could do. Then in the Hand of Thrawn, Mara helps him realize he's flexing his power so much. He wasn't hearing the guidance of The Force. He toned it down just to became more balanced and wise. In time for the Vong invasion. In that war he became even more powerful. But Vong Luke couldn't do what New Jedi Order Luke could do.
Forty years of his life just to become OP enough. He willed himself back into existence when the raw power of a Force Monolith vaporized him.
I never liked the Vong books except for one. I hope they are left out in the future.
@@TheCookster64 they're...
Hard to like. So many characters & things do a complete 180, then there's all the destruction. The story is good, but it's like they raised the stakes way too high...
Like.... holy shit. That's awesome. He Probably just rebuilt himself with the force and stitched himself back together perfectly as a force ghost allowing his spirit to reenter his body.
@@nicholashodges201 A moon being dropped on Chewbacca to pretty much start that book series was a kick to the nuts for young teenage me.
@@imthejman85 Don't even get me started on that.
On the other hand, at least he died like a boss, and not the way most Badasses in SW go down...
I mean killing him off was stupid, but he was capped with a *moon*
Shatterpoint was also a specialty of his great grandson Cade Skywalker, who was so proficient in it; he could both destroy and heal using the shatterpoints.
And Jacen Solo. He used it on the breastplate of one of the mando'ade that attacked his star destroyer. (Bonus points for doing it to beskar)
@@blackc1479 I forget about that because of all the other crazy stuff he could do. Like using the force to project himself back in time.
@@negaducksays9368 lol yeah that always made me scratch my head a bit
@@blackc1479 beskar is just the idea of mando iron, cortorsis and sith alchemy treated metal smashed together. In EU Exar Kun used hus light saber to cut his way through a door made of the stuff so it didn't become lightsaber proof until somebody mixed up the ideas. If you read prior to Episode one the Dooku before he went dark side took out a whole squad of like 16 Mando soldiers in full armor with his light saber alone. It was meant to be something one could compare to titanium not some invincible get out of jedi trouble free card. If it was as powerful as claimed the mandolorians would have taken over the galaxy not gotten wiped out.
@@danielessex2162 Well I always saw it as being more about being resistant to blaster fire so against those using blasters you would be better off. But even then a Jedi is trained to aim for the vulnerable areas hence people losing hands, arms, legs, and heads. When looking at Mando armor there are plenty of areas for a Jedi to exploit. Plus prolonged blaster fire or continuous contact with a lightsaber can literally cook the Mando inside.
Luke's greatest ability is force oneness. He became a force god. Beating Abeloth, Lumiya, and Palpatine are proof.
Darth Krate helped Luke with Abeloth or he would've been destroyed.
Well he didn't beat abeloth himself. Darth krayt helped some.
Personally I've always felt his ability to deal with the dark side to be his stand out power. For most of his early post Endor stories until after Thrawn, he's not just flirting with the dark side, he's over there with a box of wine & rubbers every weekend. Yet it never fully sucks him in.
Not even Reven, with all of his power could get that close without crossing the line.
The only reason Luke could become one with the Force was due to his infinite compassion and wisdom- something no Sith or prequel-era Jedi can have.
He didn’t defeat palpatine, Anakin did
For myself, Luke's greatest powers have always been his kindness, compassion, and sheer generosity. His belief that Dark-side users can be redeemed, and returned to the Light. (Before Luke turned his father back, had any of the Jedi ever even tried?) Changing people's hearts and lives, beats manipulating a black hole any day.
if you want to go by legends, plenty of dark-side users were turned back into the light..although at times, not always the most "civilized" method.
examples:
ulic qaal droma- was redeemed to the lightside after having his connection to the Force quite literally forcefully severed by Nomi Sunrider.
Revan- Mind wiped/erased and then basically brainwashed into serving the light. ofc, after he gained his memories back, he stayed true to the light side of the Force.
after the battle of yavin (BBY/ABY is the official legends timeline i think?)there were a number of dark jedi who redeemed themselves with help from other jedi:
-Mara Jade Skywalker (luke's wife in legends, was part of the emperor's hand but eventually fell for luke and turned to the light)
-Zekk (jaina solo turned him back to the light)
-Luke himself even, fell to the dark, but eventually came back to the light. fighting the emporer's immortal spirit, no less.
-Cade Skywalker turned back to the light when he did what anakin could not: injecting all of his love and power into the force, neither purely light OR dark, and saving his loved one from certain death. not once, but twice.
in fact, a lot of the jedi who fell to the dark, and then were redeemed in the light, were skywalkers. they had a tendency to succumb at least temporarily to the dark, but ALWAYS found there way back to the light. the one exception would be Darth Caedus, aka; Jacen Solo, who never truly found redemption/turned back to the light. even in death he didnt really return to the light i dont think.
Tom Holland's Spiderman would be proud of this part of Luke.
The same Luke who tried to kill his nephew???? Disney 🤡
Case in point: Luke and Mara
Never thought of it like that!!! Glad I read your comment!!!
In my opinion, Legends is the true time line not this BS that Disney created. Luke is certainly beyond badass when it came down to Force and lightsaber proficiency. He basically achieved the power of a Force spirit in mortal form. If it was up to me, I would have had Luke portrayed in a different light in the newer films with a major influences from Legends that certainly would have pleased fans more. Thanks for sharing, have a Wicked Force day. Be safe.😁👍👽👽🤓
Oh come on, you mean you didn't like seeing Luke gulping down that green milk? *shudders*
@@imthejman85 Honestly never saw the rest of the continued sequels. I saw the Force Awakens, it was ok, but I was not impressed by it. I do know the scene you are referring to, which I thought was very bizarre. But my main point is I never liked the way that this Luke was portrayed in these continuation films. In my opinion, Luke was portrayed as a complete cop out and who just gave up. I believe that the Legends Luke would never have given up and would have fought on in the face of adversity. That's my thoughts on that.
@@michaelhearson Honestly, you didn't miss much, and that's coming from someone that fanboyed over SW his whole life. I owned basically every SW book ever printed up to when the third trilogy movies were being released. Once they pulled the EU out of canon and butchered pretty much all the characters I was raised on, I stopped caring.
@@imthejman85 I certainly agree, I'll watch the other films down the road eventually just out of principle. I've always have been a huge Sci Fi geek as a kid growing up and as adult. But when certain powers in place start adding SJW and Woke agendas to a Star Wars narrative it ruins the experience for me. Because in my view point what does Earth based SJW or Woke agendas have anything to do with Star Wars anyway. As we all know the main narrative is set in a complete alien galaxy in the distance past. If you want to view it through a realistic-ish perspective.
I agree 💯 PERCENT, they insult the vary existence of Star Wars..
When they
If only Disney had never touched Star Wars...
Exactly,
That would have been the perfect starting point for the sequel trilogy.
Don’t worry those movies are fan fiction and aren’t canon.
@@stevenirizarry9427 I've read fan fiction miles better than what they created
I wish I could live in that alternate universe ughhhhhhh
I love hearing about Grandmaster Luke Skywalker. I'd also like to hear about the powers, feats and abilities of other legends characters if possible. Such as Mara Jade, Lumiya, Kyle Katarn, and Leia. And no need to keep it limited to force users are there any crazy feats that Wedge Antilles or Han Solo or Talon Karrde has done that we don't know about?
Yes, yes, and yes.
For Wedge I’d recommend reading Rebel Dream and Rebel Stand which are about the battles of Borleias.
@@davidtuttle7556 Wedge was great in them.
Yes, yes... and a side by side Leia and Luke comparation. I also see Leia so near to Luke's powers or even greater in the force. It's like Leia draws more from Anakin and Luke from Padme. Don't take me wrong, I love them all (if not on Disney sequels).
I think that Luke kinda disregarded the traditional jedi teachings and embraced a balanced grey jedi stance. Giving him abilities on both sides without the light or dark extremes giving him more power and he clearly showed that. Honestly with the massive achievements it made Yoda and mace windu look like younglings. Truly impressive
Thank you for this one.. It meant SO much hear someone talk about MY Luke Skywalker after years of watching Disney's doppelganger.. It brought back me and my 2 closest friends ( whom we shared and passionately read with one another) rushing through the book so we could pass it to the next so we could set up till 2-3 in the morning talking about them..
Thank you for making this one remember and feel that again
What book was this based off of?
Wow...your life must be really bad.
Loved seeing “Force Crush” on the dark troopers. That was epic!
This OG Luke is the one and ONLY Luke: the one I grew up with. He fought a returned Palpatine that can summon wormholes and Force Storms, fought Abeloth and lived, held a black hole, spanked the Lady of the Sith, and many other feats. This Disney Star War Luke is just a terrible mockery of a legacy.
They have to kill these characters for their new characters to exist.
Fuck them new characters and they mamas homie @@gmag8729
Indeed the most powerful Jedi to have ever lived
If you only knew the POWER of Legends Grandmaster Luke Skywalker
I read this in Darth Vader's voice lol
@@MrSasukeSusanoo same
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
Sebastian Stan would be awesome as Luke in a solo series
No
@@soccerboi4207 Why?
@@soccerboi4207 why not?
@@deltax8202 Do you have a good reason for saying no?
@@CarltonPhillupBanx yes
Luke Skywalker is the hope of the universe!
Thus is why he is the most powerful jedi!
In any canon Luke Skywalker is the one!
EU Luke Skywalker will always be the true story of him!😔✊
I wish we could’ve seen movies based off the Star Wars legends. 😭
It's coming my friend don't worry
@@soccerboi4207 with Disney at the helm it'll get ruined. Best we could hope for is fan made YT shorts and even that'll be based more off 7-9 and that stupid rebels show.
@@danielessex2162 This guy is doing a good job bring legends to life with limited resources. If only Disney get the message and make the their MOVIES legends, we all be happy. ruclips.net/user/DarthAngelus
@@kmthunderheartt6168 facts...preach brother preach!
Watching this just makes me more abrasive towards 7,8,9...the possibilities were endless for Luke and the way they'd finish the Skywalker saga...but hey we're only the paying fanatics who kept star wars alive all these years what do we know🙈🙉🙊
The legends is quite clear that Luke is an OP Force user. There’s a scene in Shadows of the Empire where Vader says he doubts that Luke’s growth in the force could be stopped after learning about some of his feats during that book…and that’s after his few months of training with Yoda on Dagobah. It stands to reason, therefore, that this development would continue posthaste as the Galaxy calms down for him with the Sith dead and him having a bit more time to find new students and materials to study.
Well it did help with Mara Jade that she kills his clone in the Thrawn series and thus the Emperor's Voice leaves Mara's mind once and for all. Great video love looking at how powerful Luke is
Seeing the outpouring of love here for Legends Luke, and knowing that Mark Hamill is putting in work with Dave Filoni and the rest of the talent behind The Mandalorian gives me... dare I say... Hope :')
Might you go as far as to say it gives you NEW hope? 😜
He was great in the EU, and even inspired me in part to go into teaching. He was the ultimate warrior/scholar - powerful and wise but also able to teach that power and wisdom to others. Attaching him to the theme of failure and making him an attempted murderer in Disney Canon was just a character assassination. Like you said: Luke’s power came from his unwavering kindness and will to do the right thing. I didn’t need to see Disney Luke pulling black holes open, but I did need to see him be good and kind to his students. Breaking that character the way they did was really a tragic decision, and it’s one that I hope they see the need to make up for. If they give us a Luke and Grogu show, that’s a chance for them to show Luke as he is meant to be.
I know he's a bit overhyped by this point, but I kinda wanna see how a pre-MMO Revan would stack up to Grandmaster Luke. I say pre-MMO because I believe that the events and details given to Revan by the Old Republic MMO kinda messed him up, capping his potential power and removing a lot of intentional ambiguity. I mean, imagine that kinda battle: the legendary Revan Reborn, only force user to have full mastery and control of both sides of the force, and be equally skilled in all forms of combat(including hand-to-hand: Revan is famously capable of besting Echani warriors), versus Grandmaster Luke, one of the most powerful Jedi of all time, and true inheritor of the power of the Chosen One.
It is not even close. I love Revan as a character, but during KOTOR he caps at about Mace Windu and Dooku (maybe slightly below them). That is no mean feat. Mace and Dooku were some of the greatest Jedi in the Order's history, and were tied in third place for their era (Yoda is number 2 and Sidious is numero uno). Grandmaster Luke is as far beyond him as Revan is beyond the likes of Darth Maul. Revan is great, but he likely doesn't even make the top 20 list of most powerful characters. That said, I get the feeling they would likely not even fight. They'd probably just sit down and discuss the Force and philosophy, or military strategy and tactics, as well as some of their victories. Some more fun matchups (in my opinion) would be Revan vs Kreia (the student versus the master), Revan vs Kyle Katarn (both famous masters of both the Light and the Dark), and Revan vs Inquisitor Jerec (both have a bit of character overlap and have a preference for the Force over martial prowess). Apologies if this got a bit ranty, I kind of grew up on Legends material. I don't know Disney Canon outside of the films and shows, but if you want information on the Classic EU I either know it or where to find it.
@@austinkersey2445 that would be a very fun talk
@@austinkersey2445 u are forgetting revans greatest strength. Solving problems with unknown options! Lol. Luke and revan have allot more similarities than differences if u really think about it. Id put revan much higher as his knowledge on both sides was unmatched. Palps would kill whole systems for the knowledge revan choose to forget. Interesting and good points u make though. We can still agree its worthy of a video! 😊
@@pranc236 I mean yeah, Revan's primary strength is being a highly capable problem solver. His issue is that he is never the strongest, the fastest, or really the most capable physical combatant in any arena. He had knowledge, that is not up for debate. The vastness of it is. He doesn't have the most showings, and while the knowledge we have seen him to have is impressive, it isn't like Palpatine's entire Sith compendiums and asteroid-sized libraries. And, from viewing both, Palpatine definitely had more in his repertoire in both the Force and in Lightsaber combat. Revan is versatile, intelligent, and a master strategist. I just don't think he's more intelligent or smarter than Luke. And none of his other qualities make up the difference. Especially since Luke is so much stronger, faster, and possessed a better sense for combat than Revan, and had many more physical augmentation feats that are more impressive than Revan's, that he would simply speed blitz the poor man in a duel. Revan is an all-time great, but he isn't *the* all-time great. He's probably in the top 30 somewhere with his apprentice, Darth Malak (I think people are overly harsh on the man by making too many negative comparisons to Revan).
@@austinkersey2445 revan is the unlikely underdog that always seemed to come out on top. Maybe luck was better than skill. But he had both. Not arguing that revan would beat luke. I dont think he would. I dont even think they would fight. Luke has all the traits revan respected highly. Would be more of a sparing match than anything else. Revan did defeat the greatest foe, even though it took his own sacrifice to do it. His physical strength may have not been the greatest but his mental matched a being over 1000 years old for 300 years. Be honest now. Valkorion stronger or weaker than sidious?
I remember in the Legends book: Truce at Bakura.
He was in the middle of a freaking battle, found a force sensitive who’s memories were blocked by the alien race, DURING FIGHTING he released the block, got stunned, while unconscious, force controlled a servant to the aliens, disabled the power and destroyed the device they were going to put him in and then started fighting.
Note this was about a few months AFTER Endor.
He also managed to get into the consciousness of one of the star fighters of the enemy and managed to convince them to do a suicide run to destroy the fleet.
Perhaps the saddest moment in Star Wars is how Luke was betrayed as looser in The Last Jedi. It really pissed me off. But, seeing him in the Mandalorian was EPIC! I'm still pissed at Disney but I feel slightly less pissed.
I was so fucking angry when I was watching that The Last Jedi, and after that scene I spent the entire movie cursing Rhian Johnson for creating such a piece of shit film. i fucking hate that guy so much
Yes! TLJ isnt Canon to me, its a bad fanfic. Long live to EU
@@nekiyia 😆 🤣 😂
@@nekiyia lol 🤡 opinion. Maybe you're 10-14 or w/e. Sit down and shut up while the adults are talking, kid
Outstanding Video! Love this so much.👏
That was what bugged me about the "new" Luke in the Boba Fett series: knowing the story of the Legends Luke and seeing the New Luke's insistence on adherence to old Jedi dogma and tradition that I thought the REAL Luke, the one talked about in this video, would see as being highly unnecessary and even counterintuitive to being a Jedi.
True, but I could actually see Legends Luke offering Grogu a similar choice. By which i mean, letting Grogu follow his own path in the force. It is my understanding that Luke often encouraged his students to go out into the galaxy and connect with people. To follow their own path in the Force as a Jedi should. So who is to say that Grogu was not meant to be among Mandos similar to Tar Vizla, the first Mandalorian Jedi?
In one of the books I read he found the lost fleet of dreadnought star destroyers and was able to command the 30 ship fleet in combat through the force! That's some serious power!
Luke’s own show played by Sebastian Stan. Plot lines like reborn emperor, the lost tribe of the sith, the Vong, Thrawn, or even just rebuilding the Jedi order, possibly listening to stories of the old republic in Luke’s pursuit to become Grand Master.
Been waiting for proper Skywalker cred. Kudos and thanks.
Luke Skywalker IS Star Wars.
Love that on Legends lightsaber duels are described as so fast that look like several oponents are fighting simultaneously.
I heard Luke was so powerful at mind control that he was once able to get over 200 children to eat vegetables without complaining. And his telekinesis was so strong that he was able to pick up Legos off the floor faster than those 200 children could scatter them, and was even able to keep them from dumping their juice boxes on the carpet at the same time. AMAZING!
Naaah, impossible. OK he's powerful and has unlimited knowledge of the force, but there's limits to what even he could do and what I can believe.
Keep them from spilling their juice boxes, 😂 who told you that crap.
"I don't believe it."
"That is why you fail."
You got to do a breakdown on Leia next.
Honestly Luke has been my favorite Star Wars character since I was 3 so yes I want him to have power unmatched
How could we have been denied this version of Luke and this version of Star Wars on the big screen? This is infinitely better than whatever Disney could ever think of
My favorite lightsaber battle is in return of the Jedi when he faces Darth Vader near the end of the movie. The fight with Darth is one of the most basic and power based fights in any movie. Very realistic and raw. Most people will say it's not the best. It's just my opinion concerning sword fights that I grew up with. The hatred used with control by Luke to overpower Vader is iconic!
Legends Luke: *casually creates force illusion of an entire fucking starfleet*
Canon Luke: *dies creating an illusion of himself*
I feel like the encouraging attachment is really good for a time, many turned to the dark side because of their inability to make attachments, but at the same time losing those attachments would launch them so much further to the dark side. Idk if he trained them all to appreciate the "there is no death" side of it all but if he didnt seems like it could end badly...
Well I think he tried to encourage the development of emotional intelligence, sure if you lose attachments you'll be hurt and grieve, but if you have some emotional intelligence instead of being just an innocent soul like jedis where, you'll know how to ease the pain eventually, move on and become wiser, you might have some problems with negative emotions here and there, but you won't be sucked in by the dark side completely.
9:37
Them Skywalker’s sure have a hand fetish 😂😂
But also….what an epic fight that second round had to have been 😮💨
It would have been so cool if the bombardment and Luke's final fight with Ren near the end of the Last Jedi had really been Luke, in the flesh...When he walked calmly out of the smoke and fire, reaching up to flick away some small bit off of his tunic, with an expression of complete disdain on his face...Classic!! I get that Ren needed to return to Ben via Rey turning him back, but it would have been something to see for Luke to have defeated him decisively in that fight...Like a Jedi version of taking Ren "behind the woodshed" to knock some sense into him...Just my opinion, that's all...
I love seeing Luke become what Anakin wished he could've been. Making Anakin proud.
Seeing the Kenobi Series, we got to see some impressive force feats. I can hopefully hope we see more in a Luke Series.
It was pretty bone headed actually, just brute force stuff like ripping apart spaceships and lifting a lot of rocks
@@california_dude9112 honestly, it was one of the most underwhelming shows/series I’ve seen in a while lmao
@@Howlingburd19 - yeah I can see that
Great timing as I've just literally minutes ago finished re watching sn 2 of the mandolorian
As much as most of us would love to see it, it'll never come to pass that he's portrayed this way in "canon". I feel like the latest movies butchered this character beyond repair and as excited as I am to potentially see more of him in "The Mandalorian" and beyond, I just don't think he'll ever be what he was in the EU. As far as who else I'd like to see, it would have to be my favorite EU character, Kyp Durron.
Personally i dont want to see that version of luke on the big screen unless its the last time we see him. The minute you make a character as powerful as EU Luke you lose all tension in the story
The act that just floored me was looks ethereal palace floating in the air on Curoscant "can't remember the spelling but I'm sure you know where I mean" I just remember reading that and being awed. He literally as best I can remember, it's been a minute, he had created a copy of Vader's Palace literally built out of the force. Han landed in it, and went to speak with Luke, but he just got out of the ship, and the Palace took Han to Luke, meaning the entire Palace moved around Han who was still, until he was standing in a totally different area in front of Luke, plus the only way Han knew the Palace was there is because Luke had made it visible to him. It was invisible to everyone else, unless Luke let them see it.
Lucas always said Luke is the strongest Jedi there ever was.
My son is called Luke.
Can’t believe they portrayed him in the film of someone who had lost hope!
He was a beacon of light the embodiment of positivity to not understand this is to not be a Star Wars fan
IT'S UNFAIR
In the sequels, that wasnt luke. that was his cousin. duke airrunner. Luke is probably back at his jedi temple, creating a new order.
I’ll have you know that as a child, with my friends, we pronounced it AT AT Walkers & not A Tee A Tee. I won’t let it go. 😫😡
You are not alone lol. Stay strong😁💯
@@blackc1479 😁
using the force to telephone every other jedi in the galaxy just to tell them that you're in charge now is such a boss move
Now only if Anakin would have reached his full potential.
Too busy killing children
if only the jedi order was honest with him
@@esmandagamer3441 Would still be limit-capped by the order due to their outdated mindset.
Luke had the exact same potential according to Lucas - And Luke wasn't restricted by other Jedi/Sith. Luke still outranks him.
@@ackimdead 😂facts
Great video!
Luke was the grandmaster that the order needed unlike the council which was blinded by ancient dogma to which for a while Luke had no knowledge of.
This is honestly my favorite video love EU Luke
Luke brings Vader back from the dark side. Loves Mara jade despite having wanted to kill him. Brings Kyp Durron back from the dark side. Literally luke himself comes back from the dark side.
Almost kills his nephew because he had a bad dream. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄🙄
Gosh I hate what the new movies did to Luke.
I like how narrator describing Luke as the literal crossbreed between superman and goku and simultaneously the scenes from original trilogy shown where he's handling lightsaber like a cripple.
They have to make a game where u can play as legends luke
I heard his appearance on the battlefield in the 7th movie called doppelganger. But its essentially battle meditation. Which was an old technique during the hyperspace wars.
I'd like to know how powerful Leia was in Legends
She made it to Jedi Knight. Easily could have reached Master if she hadn't focused on politics and her family
do you think that they are called "legends" because they are not real? just stories like myths? manipulating a black holes gravitational power seems fairly absurd. that is like dismissing a sun by waving your hand.
@@icecreamman4eva no, they're called Legends because Disney is stupid and chose to go a different way than the books/comics/video games
Thank you for making this video
I don't consider ANYTHING made by Disney to be Cannon.
this was so good! this channel is SO awesome to learn about star wars lore! great job!
honestly i think his 1 of his greatest feats is never brought up and that when he opened up a hole to an alternate universe to send an extradiminsional alien named waru back home in the book the crystal star
As far as I'm concerned, Jedi Grandmaster Luke Skywalker is still training Grogu.
Luke is so underrated when it comes to his power, because in the films he's still an untrained and unexperienced boy, but still he managed to defeat Darth Vader and turn him to the light when he was not even a Jedi Master!!
6:40: that painting…oof 😂
We seriously need a Luke series… not a single film or episode has done him ANY justice when you actually lost out all of his doings
I forgot so many of these! I guess that means I am due a reread.
You forgot to mention how insanely Overpowered he was whilst using Force Push... I mean he used it to Wipe Out an Entire Army (15,000 if memory serves, but feel free to correct me if I goofed 🙂)
I respect the opinions of people on here, and correct me if I miss a few things as I never read a lot of legends but was aware of them as a child. I was a little disappointed by the fact that Disney didn’t use the source material.
After all why focus on all the old characters? I still like them and will continue to watch but there are mew characters they could use.
Still, surely new interpretations are a good thing really. Besides isn’t Luke from Legends a little too overpowered to the extent of bordering on Superman levels?
Isn’t that boring or did they manage to still make him vulnerable?
Just a debate, no need for pitchforks.
@@joshm8737 What the books did was power-scale Luke's enemies and focus more on making his family and friends vulnerable. Luke at his most powerful was basically a deity, and so Legends continuity made the Yuuzhan Vong and Abeloth (Basically an all-powerful Lovecraftian god) to keep it fair.
Personally, seeing stuff like him effortlessly decimating an AT-AT with the swipe of a hand was cool. It was just reading time after time after time when Han, Leia, Mara Jade, Chewie, Lando, Jacen, Jaina, Anakin and Ben get kidnapped. That trope got old fast.
As for the source material, the Sequel Trilogy to my surprise borrowed several big plot points from the books. It just made it worse. Kylo Ren's story is almost verbatim Jacen Solo's story. Palpatine being supernaturally still alive on a dark evil planet with a gigantic fleet of Star Destroyers is straight out of Dark Empire.
The Legends continuity also had new characters that became fan favorites. Booster Terrik, Pallaeon, Mara Jade, Xizor, The Imperial Warlords, every single character from the X-Wing books, etc.
I highly recommend the Thrawn Trilogy and the X-Wing series to start with. I hated reading books in school, and that got me into reading.
Layne Bosler thank you for taking the time to explain why Legends was so interesting.
I find that the whole sequel and Legends debate causes a lot of friction, so it’s refreshing to have a discussion about it.
That is why it was refreshing to introduce my girlfriend to more Star Wars as she had a blank canvas.
My experiences of Legends stems from The Dark Forces games and Kyle Katarn’s story. Jedi Academy abs whatnot. I like that aspect of the story, and Mara Jade sounds cool.
I’ll have to check out Thrawn.
Thank you.
@@Pwnhenge1997 are you suggesting the original thrawn trilogy or the newer one?
@@Pwnhenge1997 I haven’t read alot of legends so I don’t know much of the details of Jacen Solo’s story, but from watching videos, it seems to me that his story has more depth and detail than Kylo Ren’s story. Didn’t he join the dark side because he had a vision of a new dark lord of the sith (darth Krayt) and he wanted to accumulate as much power as possible in order to thwart him? Plus I feel like there was alot more material on him as a jedi which probably made it more interesting to watch him fall to the dark side in comics/books bc you get to know his character more.
With Kylo, I feel like you get less of that characterization in the sense that you understand why he fell to the dark side and what his ultimate goals are. The movies focus more on his relationship with Rey and his desire to surpass vader (who eventually turned to the light side anyways- never really understood why Kylo looked up to vader so much anyways) than his character on his own. Plus, when they did characterize him, to me it felt like he was kinda just an impulsive teenager. His character didn’t really impress me (although ig that’s up to personal taste) and he never really felt like a true sith to me, whereas from what little I know about Jacen Solo, he seems like the real big bad, especially considering he killed Mara Jade. I mean tbf Kylo did kill his dad but his character never gave me the badass sith vibes. Again, maybe it just comes down to personal preference, but Jacen Solo’s character tends to impress me more than Kylo Ren- let me know if you agree or not
I would love to see a Luke Skywalker show and a series all about Luke Skywalker and his journeys after return of the Jedi and all the enemies he fought
I still believe that Luke was the chosen one. If Anakin had been the chosen one the emperor would’ve stayed dead. It was Luke who ended up defeating him As well as continuing to keep the balance afterwards.
perhaps it me
Well Anakin was the chosen one, he brought balance in a way, but then the darkside was too op, so the force basically manisfested the chosen's one power to Luke, who as able to carry those powers to the limit unlike his father.
Defeated more than 5 Slayers.
DoomGuy: “doubt.”
If they make another series with Luke they should just animate it in the clone wars/rebels/bad batch style I think they could do a lot with it and they could use it to show more details as to why he considered killing Ben and why he isolated himself
That should be scrapped in my opinion considering what it's foundations are based on. Making Luke and men look bad and women OP. That had nothing to do with Star Wars.
Luke will always be my favorite Jedi, and one of the greatest heroes in any story told.
Luke being able to displace the master servos makes sense. He was a skilled technician, a skill not exactly common amongst Jedi due to their starting at a young age. So it's not surprising that he could manipulate parts that he understood were there when other Jedi Masters couldn't manipulate them.
Similar to his father that way, they seemed to have a knack for electronics and any type of engineering in general.
The Dark Nest series spelled out Luke's most awesome Jedi powers. However as long as DISNEY and Kathleen Kennedy are sh!tting upon him Luke will never be revealed as the most fantastic Light side Force User ever to be called a Jedi.
Luke is a badass in general in Legends
Now this is a show or movie I'd love to see, like legends!!!
Jaina and Jacen could also use shatterpoint.
"I looked at Rian and said I fundamentally disagree with everything you've done with my character."
-Hamil
Disney canon did a great injustice to Luke's character
i think you mean KK canon, its all HER fault
All those Luke stories deserve a trilogy!
There is still a 30-35 year time period in the "Disney Canon" that can show us a full powered Grand Master Luke having adventures across the galaxy and recruiting Padawans into his Jedi Order/ Academy. If handled right, this series could rebuild the trust with lapsed fans and (at least attempt) to make sense of the deeply controversial ST.
Especially because he IS really powerful in the sequel movies. He projected a full apparition of himself from across the galaxy, in full view of everybody, with a full Force presence that Leia and Kylo could feel enough that they thought he was physically there. It would be amazing to show him in the years before he gave up.
There's no way in hell I'll ever trust Disney with star wars. Idgaf about the Mandalorian or their version of Boba Fett. I might like them but as a far as I'm concerned, they're not canon. Since they were created by Disney.
"And many force weilders are much more powerful in the EU than they typically are in Can-"
My brain instantly goes to Canada.
Why, brain? Why?
Disney: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Good Lord, what Disney have done with Star Wars, and how they were so mean spirited towards the OG characters, out of malice, arrogance, ignorance, is hard to fathom. The stories in in the Legends canon would have been incredible.
Luke Skywalker, the great Jedi who assumed the knowledge and powers of Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Vader. What a powerful Jedi master he would become. Unfortunately, Disney yanked that rug out from under us. We never got to witness the insane powers of master Luke, because it was not empowering to women. I get that Disney wanted to attract more females to its audience, but they didn't have to kill off all out childhood hero's like fragile little subjugates to a woman's fantasy of dominating the universe, un-paralleled. I had no issue with Rey's character. I thought she was beautiful and powerful, strong with the force, and a very cool protagonist for the ending franchise. But in the second episode where where all the men turned to pussies, and the women had to take control of the rebellion, because the men were just to stupid to maintain their own human needs, like breathing air to survive, or feeding themselves. It was just turned into a blatant attack on the sex of men as a whole species, especially at the end when all the man hating lesbians started making out with each other to celebrate the destruction of the male species. If that is not so blatantly biased, I don't know what else could ever come so close. It is a travesty that Disney chose to use such a globally celebrated franchise to force their extreme feminist ways of thinking on all of us. Using none less than a literal fire-hose to turn away all male fans from their beloved childhood escape. If you want to prove a point about male/female history, that invent something original that doesn't divide the sex's into a revolt of warfare. Assholes! It was painful to watch as Disney assassinated the great Jedi Master of George Lucas's dreams only to force their extreme feminist point of view down our throats. Jesus F!@#$%G Christ, you could have gone with a different platform. Now this leaves all Five Billion Star Wars fans begging for a do-over, because Disney completely fucked it all up with their political issues.
Agreed!!!!
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Luke fans must look to Legends. After all, these days . . . the Force is female. Remember?
I really enjoy your videos. Great work, I've learned more than I thought I knew 😂
Hmm, I'm not sure which version of Luke I like better, the powerful legends Luke, or the Luke that tried to kill his unarmed nephew, ran away and became a hermit drinking blue milk from an alien boob, got owned by Leia and Rey, and of course died of a heart attack or something from that thing he did in TLJ...
Luke traveled the galexy looking for holocrons, he learned techniques used by the knights of the old republic. He learned old lost techniques. To my knowladge he is widely considered the strongest jedi to exist.
Will if ANAKIN know how to Control the dark side in him and not let the Dark Side take Control of his soul he would be Darth Vader, and he would got a purple light saber,or when he Betrayed Master windu,he could cut master Windu hand off like he did to Count Duku, that is how he could get Master Windu Light Saber
This further illustrates how badly Johnson handled Luke. Which great powers is he left with in TLJ? Force projection for one minute, getting his ass beat by an untrained girl and then proceeding to drop dead. Episode 8 is a war crime