Dr. Robin DiAngelo Discusses ‘Nice Racism’
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- As the celebration of Black August continues, there is a question about the role white people play in the fight for justice and equality.
There have been numerous books written to investigate whiteness as a social construct such as “How the Irish Became White,” by Noel Ignatiev, and “The Invention of the White Race” by Theodore Allen. Dr. Robin DiAngelo is known to write books about race relations such as NYT bestseller “White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism.”
Now, she has a new book called "Nice Racism: How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm.” Dr. DiAngelo joins Marc Lamont Hill on “Black News Tonight” to talk about her latest book.
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It's not hard for white people to talk about racism just behind your back
Honestly, we don't talk about it at all, it doesn't have much affect on our lives. We have other things on our minds.
Dr. Dan Stock
@@michaeldonnan6767 speak for yourself
These people are race hustlers trying to divide us
@@pdumpsterful division has already been made. Oceans divide continents, languages divide cultural exchange...etc
I'm going to write a book called, "How to make money off of Black problems".
that's just the point... they're not 'Black problems', they're everybody's problems .. smh... you dont see that?? 🤔
Yep you are right, easy way to sell book and make easy money from black audience . Don’t buy this book
@@pauljames7936 you're not wrong, but obviously, racism effects certain people more than others, Particularly blacks
@@pauljames7936 That's just it. The "problems" are exagerated as part of the grift. If you think in 2021 black peoples biggest problem is racism, you're part of the problem.
@@researchsiempre ... like you'd know... a White troll imposing his/her beleifs as if theyre gospel... you ARE the problem...
It'd of been great, if you had asked her whether she thinks Corporate anti-racism training seminars are an efficient space to deconstruct race.
Corporations don't need to exist.
I’ll answer it for you. No, it’s not. It’s how corporations deal with racism without actually taking action. It’s ALL propaganda. 💯
nah, that'd expose her grift.
Dr. Dan Stock
No! White folks need to stop trying to change the minds and hearts of white people.
I have no problem whatsoever of examining laws and structures to ensure non-discrimination but Critical Race Theory is extremely vague and simply advocates dismantling things without prescribing a solution. Also, it assumes bias in only one direction. It advocates fighting racism with racism.
If you didn't understand the lecture about CRT it's because you are not in any vicinity of where this theory is taught. I can tell from you own drawn conclusion about being "vague". At least you did not use the boogeyman* rhetoric.
* Definitions of boogeyman. an imaginary monster used to frighten children. synonyms: bogeyman, booger, bugaboo, bugbear. type of: monster. an imaginary creature usually having various human and animal parts.
I have my issues with CRT but "vague" is not one of them lmao. You sound like you didn't even bother reading anything
I support Dr. Robin 100%. She touches the nerves they wish never existed......people, the racialized society we live in ain't going away no time soon
Yes. She is BREAKING the white folks’ code of normally pretending that racism is just a figment of non-white folks’ imaginations. She’s explaining/exposing white psychology and that’s a no-no in the code.
You are a sucker. You bought into a middle aged white female member of the upper class's neuroses regarding her anti black racism. You are also a tool for promoting race baiting instead of class struggle.
@@lucianomezzetta4332 RACE always trumps class for most white people and you know it!!!
@@lucianomezzetta4332 u are just 1 of the millions of people who are in denial....not much hope for u....no reply needed..lmao!
Brainwashing is not going away. Same people who bought us bandaids are racist
Does no one learn anything from Malcolm X’s warning about white liberals? We act like just because this woman wrote a book that sensationalizes racism that we should all be listening to her like she has our best interests in mind.
What to you propose White people should be doing to end racism and White supremacy?
Who is "we"? Lol.
You obviously didn’t read her book and it is annoying af when people who don’t read sh*t try to inject their ill informed opinions into intellectual discussions. We know you don’t know what you are talking about and we’re all laughing at you.
Getting rich off telling people they are victims. How many books u going to read b4 you start doing for yourself. Sdl1 salute. Malcolm said you are n no moral grounds to be begging the white man for anything when you can build yourself.
@@marohan lol.
You think that Blacks aren't doing anything for themselves... gotcha.
This lady gives me weird vibes. Instead of trying to help a child's wound heal, she would try to preserve it in it's lesion state so that she could admire and cherish their precious vulnerability and pain.
@@BonRain8734 I went down a rabbit hole after watching this video. Holy cow, how did I miss all of this going on right now. RUclips algo what horrors have you subjected me to. This is actually just racism.
Could explain what she does that makes u claim this ? You see you don't heal a childs wound by ignoring its existance
@@Giagantus actually, yes you exactly do. A child never overcomes when you remind them incessantly of their injury. She just seems like a scab picker to me, its her metaphorical posture. Her arrogant certainty, leaves no room for anyone to rise above her and deny that they are injured. She seems like she is either try-harding to cover her own inadequacies, or cynically relishing her perceived inflated value in the eyes of society by telling black people how she thinks society sees them. If I had to put money on it, I'm going with the latter, which is why that is what my comment referred to. I cant prove it, its just an intuition.
I think your interpretation is slightly off but your entitled 2 your POV. I would leave it open as long as I can (with a close date) to exam all the possible ways 2 prevent & C what other possible causes stim from the cut. However as far as human flesh goes I know I am going 2 have 2 let it heal. Human flesh & systems R different. Flesh should never B mutilated. Systems should B examine 4 however long it takes 2 prevent it from ever happening again as well as learn what else stems from the system.
@@amandlaawethu1538 maybe, I don't ever shut the book of understanding. That's a lifelong work in progress.
However I pretty firmly stand by my intuition on this one though, I've continued to look into her since I stumbled on this video. She makes way too much money off of this to be a decent person. She's just a gnostic guilt reliever for corporations. An alternate perspective could be that she collects protection money for the social justice mafia and corporations are provided cover for equity discrepancies in return. Meanwhile (and there are studies on this) apparently everywhere her practices and others like hers go, they leave companies with substantively worse internal race relations. I mean, who could have guessed it?
Lol this lady is catching hell. Can you imagine if she was black 😅
She would still be deranged, color has nothing to do with being deranged.
"I don't you, but I know your history."
- James Baldwin
@@willpower3317 Says the clown who deleted his own thread rather than answer any questions about his stance on institutional racism and its effects across the history of the country. James Baldwin would wipe the floor with you effortlessly in a debate on any subject.
Hmm ...
@@misterman2830 ohhh I love debates! 🤓 Whah are we debating? 🙋🏽♀️
@@JazzyJ0706 A coward who deleted everything he'd written rather than debate. If you have something to say about the OP do so.
@@BonRain8734 Whatever you need to tell yourself.
I needed a good chuckle and this conversation did its job
Nobody in the history of anything has ever said “I can’t be a racist, I’m a nice guy” in reply to an accusation of racism.
I would like to be her student, She is an anti-racist. I would like to read her books.
I can name 5 around me now.
Plenty of white people say they can't be racist because they have black "friends" 😂
I know some people who have said that exact sentence right down to the intonation.
What are you talking about it happens all the time
I feel so fortunate to be living in a time when we have real race experts like Robin to tell us what to think about "people of color." I had no idea what to do around people of color until I came across Robin. She is my spiritual guide and helps me check myself whenever I'm around someone a few shades darker than me, or even many shades darker than me. My personal growth since coming across Robin has been tremendous----friends, family, and even some people of color have commented on it. It's a great feeling to be part of this breakthrough movement of people who get it.
wow, that was very funny and ironic.
Dr . Dan Stock
Is this real?
Haha -- excellently put!
@@freeindeed8416 satire
No you cannot generalize about an entire race of people. This is called racism. She literally thinks she can be racist and have a pass because she is supposedly standing up for what is right. These are her opinions, not facts.Don’t care if she went to school to study sociology, it’s not exactly an expert field.
She says that it is racism... so you and her are in agreement.
Dr. Dan Stock
Ooh, look at all those books behind her!
Doesn't means she actually read them all. People use them as props.
🤣
Ms Diangelo has marketed biogotry and promotes its instutionalization. Her use of generalization to "prove" her thinking was formally belittled when talking about persons living in crime ridden neighborhoods.
Everyone has been generalized, but when it is on the other foot there is a problem. Instead of listening to respond, try listening to understand. And yes, generalizing was belittled when talking about black people (I said it for you) because of the resulting stereotypes that actually affect our very real lives. If an employer believes the prevailing narrative that “all black people are late,” can that not affect a black person’s chances of landing the job? That is racism. A system that spreads false, narrow representations of people that become ideologies (beliefs) of everyone in that society, and then are repeated throughout society until they become the norm, is a system of racism. Blacks are lazy, Mexicans don’t have papers, all Asians eat rice…, these are all racist ideologies that have been absorbed in the society around us. It is not intentional, however because of how White people have been socialized, they refuse to even consider that society might look different from the perspective of a person of color. They have been, subconsciously, convinced that their experiences are universal, when they are not. The way things are experienced from a White person’s view are not the same as everyone’s else’s. That’s why they cannot, or will not, consider views that are separate from their own. It is not conscious. It is a result of socialization. If you do nothing else, please look into the meaning of socialization. Not the definition, but the meaning. I do not mean this with any malice. I believe we all should learn at least one new thing everyday. If you haven’t learned anything new yet, here’s your chance. :) I make it a point to share my knowledge with others if I know what I am familiar with the topic. It’s not being a know-at-all. It’s knowing and wanting to share it all. Have a blessed night!
I noticed he had a concerned look when she talked about predicting if their mothers could survive on earth. Yup that’s the racism in her
Huh? No she was alluding to the fact that there is a visible statistical difference between black and white mother's death rates from giving birth. More Black mother's die from birthing statistically proportionate compared to white people w/ the same situation
That's just a fact. A point of data but she was making a point and if u watch,he was actually making a face saying "amen that's a good point to her"
If you’ve ever thought someone was black or white and then found out you were wrong - the more time you took to digest your revelation could represent either how deep the racism goes or how ashamed you are at your own racism
Or it means that you were thinking along race lines when you shouldn't have been
Lmao at BNC's RUclips editors cutting this off right before the Uncle Bobby's plug.
I like how she admits that she's racist by saying all white people are racist lol
I think the Rachel Nickols controversy is probably the best example of nice racism
Not really. Nichols gave her opinion in private, and was probably right. Don't pretend you haven't gone home and said xyz about a white or Hispanic co-worker.
@@researchsiempre I have actually. Many of us have
@@seanjenkins331 I'm black. I grew up listening to black people talk disparagingly about whites, Asians, Hispanics...at home, at work, in social settings.
This holier than thou act that some of us have is so pitifilly dishonest.
@@researchsiempre True to an extent but the power dynamic is different, and it's dishonest for u to act like it's not. What white or Asian person lost their job or was precluded from a job because a black person didn't like them?
@@seanjenkins331 That's not the point. Blck people are pretending they don't also talk shit about other races. I'm calling out the BS.
And to answer your question: Nichols(the white lady) lost her jobs at ESPN, for talking about a black woman. Life in 2021 is not the same hardship for blck people as it was 50+ years ago. Stop pretending it is because the 'perpetual victim' mentality is holding us back.
There is only one race. The human race
If you can not see that then you are racist. Think about it.
That is not what God said. If there's only one race why would God put the differences any our history books is our Creator wrong??? I think not. APTTMHY God called his chosen people black in our history books called the Bible and Book of Mormon/ Joseph so I am following my Father's words.
@@queenmommie8295 Well first you need to figure out the difference between what you think, what you think you know, and what you actually know. You must use discernment and weed out the lies you've been told. The truth is you dont know what he said. You believe it. Think about it this way knowing is 100% sure while believing is 99% sure
The title of chapter 2 made me bust out laughing as I’m walking through Costco listening to this. Hilarious. & very true.
Y'all gotta get Gerald Horne on this jawn
Dr. Dan Stock
Most whites are just always in denial.
@@bertcambridge5933 settler mentality
I would hate to have her mentality- she must feel guilty constantly.
People around her must be absolutely exhausted.
She has become wealthy peddling racism
I’ve read some dumb comments but you get the gold medal! Congrats! Your ma and pa must be so proud! Dumbest person on the internet is an awesome achievement!
To a bunch of victimcrats that want to be validated. You read her book now what.
Like the white woman who wrote Harry Potter book and school system to get my son to read that garbage instead of teaching him real history and current events that black people have gone through in the past and present. I told the school that he will not be reading that book.
@@chandrareid6966 Harry Potter is fiction
@@chandrareid6966 Harry Potter is white supremacists way of turning black boys into little wizard ferries
They will not talk about it , because when they do they will have to tell the truth about why they did and that truth will tare down this system of lies of this land really belongs to and they don’t own anything!!!
Who is "they?" We are all individuals, idiots like this lady lump everyone into one basket and generalize like a... racist. According to Liberals, there should be no borders because the world belongs to humans, yet people love to spout that "white people are on stolen land." So which is it? Have borders for each nation or a free-for-all?
What who did ?
At least she admits she is racist at the beginning LOL
I am reading a book about the Holocaust. The Jewish Holocaust. My mom’s great great grandmother is Native American so I need to learn more about the similar Holocaust of native Americans. Pretty much, I look Irish looking like my grandfather.
THIS WOMAN IS ANOTHER SHAWN KING😑
According to this...If you are white, you must like every black person you meet regardless of their character or your a racist. However, if you are black, you don't have to even like white people at all...What kind of Special Ed book is this? So when does this word "racism" just wear out? "Your honor, for the record, even though this black man set my house, my family on fire, my wife and surviving children are now burn victims, I really like him, I find him to be a great person, I'd like to apologize to him also" LOL
It wear out once the debt is paid ! If you're not talking about REPARATION, American blacks are not listening! The gig is up! The majority has the DATA! I'll leave it at that 🤨
@@timmajors5017what a plan!
Your kind will be gone in 200 years. Back to the void and enjoy x4 Karma. Enjoy it!!
@@Shin8bi Really? Because all I can see is that your kind is killing your kind lol
She certainly benefits from the system.
She's a great entrepreneur, making money of black people's emotions! Is she giving any money back or no?😊
Well part of the problem is black folks love and are so obsessed with race its like went you are born its like our whole life is Surrounded by race
@@flyguy7825 "obsessed by race"???... really???
Can you name one sphere of social interaction that is NOT open to racial interpretation...?
I won't wait, I'm more likely to grow roots before I get an answer... everyting in these US of A has a racial dimension... it's how the nation was built, after all.. 🤔
@@pauljames7936 First Off So of us don't look at race as a social requirement that's number one number 2 If you ain't black and your trying to tell me about race how much you wanna bet other black folks will say well your not back so you don't understand I'm I correct? Yes I am
@@santanoschsantosch3016 No it's not I'm black so I can say that I have a license to say it.
@@flyguy7825 No... you're not correct... unfortunately, you have deigned to speak for everybody, and think you are...
It’s obvious why Robin D doesn’t debate anyone. You can see the crazy in her eyes .
Yes, she would get in a fetal position and cry and say you are a mean racist
@@flipflopsofpeaceandjustice oh god i hope she didn't breed. We don't need anymore more White savior complex going on
@@flipflopsofpeaceandjusticehopefully
@@idie123she would not ball up and cry. If you said she was a racist she would agree. If you said you were not a racist she would say of course you are, it’s impossible for a white person not to be.
Ask her how much money she is making and how much she is donating to black people.
Dr. Di Angelo is explaining the incongruity of white psychology. And how white people view different groups of non-white people as water in a lake. Non-white people are all one thing not able to be separated. But they view themselves like snowflakes (no pun intended seriously) each separate, unique from all others, and special. Highly triggered when they are told that they are just water too.
Pure horse shit
And you’re doing the same thing you’re accusing others of doing. Stop being a bigot
@@SandraMartinez-gv1yf It’s triggering isn’t it
Yes, that snowflake doctrine of yours is called individualism. Though it has been under attack from all sides of the political spectrum since its conception, I would argue it's at the heart of the exceptional humanity (note that exceptionality is a relative term) of Western culture today. The great liberation movements of the past which included first the woman (the white woman in America) and then (in America again) the black man and woman into the conception of the individual capable of exercising its liberties, which prior to that had centred around the (white) man, are so valuable because they extended the reach of individualism, not because they conceived of the world in oppressors and oppressed.
You apparently cannot fathom that others can or at any rate would like to be able to perceive the world as consisting of individuals, not (social) groups that determine individual action. I would say that this is also at the heart of the divide between the illiberal and the liberal left today.
Going a bit into detail:
You claim that DiAngelo is actually describing racism proper. In this sense, a racist is someone who is, in fact, incapable of discriminating between members of a different (perceived) race; i.e. the white man perceives white people as individuals and black people as a monolithic blob.
Consequently, if you turn that thing around (that is you are incapable of discriminating between white people), as the first commenter has accused you of, that is obviously triggering.
A quite trivial observation of yours, I must say. Racism tends to be.
But the Brother giving the Interview almost Chuckled 🤭 a Bit when he quoted the Context of the Matter “ Whiteness Nice Racism”
Greg Foreman-Black Conservative Perspective Exposes Woke Mob and Sick Freaks 3-12-23
This obscene sick “LGBTQ/Transgender” ideology is first and foremost about preying on CHILDREN. “trans kids” “trans youth”
It's a Marxist war on Christianity and Conservatives and American values.
It's a blatant hijacking of “gay rights” and “women's rights”.
Here's a question: Why is it that this dumb-ass construction worker can't get a single one of those self-described edgeekayted folk who "graduated" from or "teaches" at this or that college or university or leftist or rabid Trump hater to discuss and debate the issues they claim to know about?
I literally can't count how many idiots I've challenged (literally hundreds) to read FrontPage Magazine and Gatestone Institute articles on those issues they claim to know about and show me where they get it wrong. Nothing but the pleasant sound of crickets chirping.
I literally can't count how many idiots I've challenged (literally hundreds) to read those NYT, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC screeds they post on their Fakebook page and come back and discuss and debate the issues in those rags. Again....chirp, chirp, chirp.
And here's a personal invite. Greg Foreman-Black Conservative Perspective, pretty much says what Fox News is saying about the issues the the Pravda media and Nazi censors don't want you talking about.
To the Idiots: Watch these videos and show me exactly, precisely where he gets it WRONG.
Can't emphasize enough watching Greg Foreman "The Black Conservative" and sharing his videos far and wide.
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I have to admit that everytime I hear or see DeAngelo I immediately think of a butterfly net.
She's no Jane Eliot. She's no Tim Wise.
"Nice racism" describes Democrats perfectly. Your kid can't read? No problem! We'll lower the standards and keep passing them.
That said, the're's a reason why Diangelo only does softball interviews. Most of what she says doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
Give me some examples of your scrutiny.
Mark Lamont hill how are you where you are at? Maybe that’s what you should be preaching, instead of bringing that racist on your show
Wait. If you benefit from structures that produced disparate outcomes then you are a racist? So I guess that makes me a racist too. Wait. That makes everyone racist.
Song: Smiling faces sometimes, by The Undisputed Truth.
So basically damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
THE GO ALONG GET ALONG CROWD🤣
Tyler, the Creator, is really breaking through the media.
That Italian name on a book like that was her main intention.
Emphasis on the “dum.”
I'm embarrassed this woman is associate anything at my school, where ground-breaking, actually important work happens everyday. She has made a nice career out of peddling un-falsifiable nonsense. She is actually quite racist. Guess I live in upside-down land.
Imagine thinking this woman is an intellectual 🤢
She IS.
Imagine being a Fragile troll and using a thumbnail photo of a character in a film who went crazy because he was a mediocre wt man who couldn't make it and became an ax MURDERER 😱🙄💯
@@lf1496 THE READ!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@lf1496
The victimhood is all over this comment
@@lf1496 In other words, all you have is ad hom and no logical rebuttal.
It’s February. That’s Irish people month. I am 40 % Irish and white. By looking at Robin DiAngelo, come join the Irish people. As someone with bipolar disorder, people confuse me as incredibly racist or maybe I don’t like and I am sick and tired of people being ignored about me. There are still some people who are stupid about Irish people and don’t want to face it.
i'm guessing Robin is a member of 'the chosen tribe'
But you prove her point. It isn't about you. This is about something bigger.
@@bryanshepard4052the only point Robin DiAngelo has is that she’s a narcissistic, self-promotional, white saviorist grifter, and saying the op “proves her point” is nothing but a strawman.
Where would black Americans have it any better outside of the US?
This country wasnt established nor intended to include the slaves or their descendents.
to say, simply that "racism exists" and to say "it is infused across all of our institutions" are two vastly different claims
If racism in America exists, where did it come from? Where did people my age (late 30s) learn it from? Why is the current school curriculum not seen as a type of critical race theory seeing as though it teaches exactly what people claim CRT teaches? The history books I grew up with taught us that white could and blacks couldn’t. It taught white supremacy from cover to cover. So in many ways it is engrained in our society just from this aspect alone. I can pull out at least three other ways we have all been manipulated to believe one thing about a particular race through our systems and institutions.
I dont know what you mean. the critical race theory definition of white supremacy, or racism, is too broad for me to really make anything of your comment. you would have to be specific.
@@easynarwhal well, the difference is that the 1st claim, literally nobody refutes. racism exists. but the second claim is where it becomes critical race theory. you should be able to refute the second claim (or at the very least, ask for clear evidence for it) without being accused of denying the 1st claim.
@@easynarwhal CRT was started by legal scholars i believe, but the assertions it makes have become part of our popular culture now, adopted into all shperes of life, so people nowadays are finding it in their face weather they realise it or not and weather they ask for it or not, it challenges all of our basic intuitions and understandings of what is racism and how it works, and it is forcing is all into these conversations. some might say thats a good thing, because we need to have "conversations about race" etc... fine... but CRT is a pile of bull crap (in my opinion), and thats the reason why it causes so many arguments. I like to talk about it because it helps me understand, thats all
the idea that racism is the normal way tha society operates, the idea that colorblindness / neutrality associated with the civil rights movement should be rejected as racist, the idea that prejudice is the only game in town and you can have such thing as "good prejudice (equity racism), the shameless stereotyping, the racial essentialism (whiteness as a set of values rather than a simple skin tone) , the pathetic attempt to undermine science, mathematics, the practise of accusing people of cultural appropriation whenever they step outside their "group", the rejection of the individual , the inability to cope with anomalies that dont line up with what it expects (successful minorities, opressed whites, trans/black/female conservatives)
I’ve always wondered about racism. never quite understood it. I always thought it was believing that certain people had a predisposition to a certain behavior. of course I don’t believe that. but after listening to countless discussions such as this to try and further educate myself I have realized that I must be a racist, because I didn’t understand the concept correctly. It’s a white people thing, all white people are racist on some level. so I’m OK with that. I’m happy with who I am and I am now very happy to be a racist also.
Imagine a racist, Robin, telling us we are all racist
Wow!!!!
Wow I never knew how much people are committed to misunderstanding the simple statements this woman makes.
OK I finally believe it I’m racist. so what? What does that accomplish? I’m the best person I can be. I treat people in the best way I possibly can. So now I’m racist, who cares.
@@edema123456 it’s not about you as an individual it’s about when all the individuals with that mindset come together and form institutions that govern everything that affects everyone else.
@@toriyt2714 “all the individuals of that mindset” What mindset? You said that racism was not about individuals? If individuals are not racist how can they come together to form racist institutions? Do you think that people of good faith, seeking fairness are never involved in drafting laws or creating systems? Do you believe that every last white person involved in legislation has bigotry in their heart? If so you might want to examine your own prejudices.
@@crisjunfan2139 It’s all BS
Look at these idiots trying to justify their bigotry.
Diangelo is clearly basing her philosophy on her own neurosis, shortcomings, and personal experience. Like Kendi, she is more of a self-help of guru, than an intellectual or academic. What intellectual says in essence, my way or the highway? What intellectual worth their salt won't debate or even have a conversation with their critics? And there are many liberal critics of Diangelo. Brett Weinstein, Sam Harris, Stephen Pinker, and John McWhorter, just to name a few. Content aside, by all accounts I have read, regardless of political persuasion, her book, "White Fragility" is the worst written, most tedious book critics have ever read.
Academic: I received my PhD in Multicultural Education from the University of Washington in Seattle in 2004. I earned tenure at Westfield State University in Massachusetts. Currently I am Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington, Seattle. In addition, I hold two Honorary Doctoral Degrees. My area of research is in Whiteness Studies and Critical Discourse Analysis, tracing how whiteness is reproduced in everyday narratives. I am a two-time winner of the Student’s Choice Award for Educator of the Year at the University of Washington’s School of Social Work. I have numerous publications and books, including Is Everybody Really Equal?: An Introduction to Key Concepts in Critical Social Justice Education, co-written with Özlem Sensoy, and which received both the American Educational Studies Association Critics Choice Book Award (2012) and the Society of Professors of Education Book Award (2018). In 2011 I coined the term White Fragility in an academic article. My book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism was released in June of 2018 and is currently being translated into 10 languages.
Why is it that most of the Comments Sections are closed when Robin DeAngelo is the featured speaker? How can people have a conversation on race if they cannot converse? Is it really a conversation when only one person airs her views in a way that is not challenged?
I wonder how she feels about interracial marriage? I wonder how she feels about the children that come from those relationships or is it better just to keep the colors separate on her pallete?
I wonder the same sometimes. Like if integration would have never happened would we as black people have a better concept of ourselves and not what white Americans think we should be.
@@shawnwhitejr.4759 This is just my observation, but what I see is people making mixed race choose what side they're on. I don't like seeing them used like this.....
@@JuicyOcelot and people have been used for their preferences. Look at jack Johnson .
She's pimpin' white guilt and y'all tricks are eating this nonsense up. SMH
Underrated comment.
You truly put your finger on it.
Bingo
Shut the fuck up you, silly little man. This woman has been dedicated to this topic for 30 years plus.
@@kennytalabi3964 it’s possible to dedicate yourself to something foolish your entire life. She’s a great example.
I love the show "Everybody hates chris" Because it showed racisim in a way that has never been televised before with the teacher ms. Moreno?
I love that. Because people think that racisim is only pitch forks and hangings.
Right-wingers and centrists/moderates think that. Usually white liberals and white progressives, despite being thrown in there with the Right, know racism is a lot broader.
@@sabeto5527 Lots of the woke white are racist without even realizing it but i did see a AnQueefa Minion call a black man who was helping a injured person a Uncle T "I hate how they never read the book and use that term" . All i am saying is all groups have there aholes to ruin it for others. Also researching on your own can be a blessing when you find things out
O like her and I will buy her book
A sucker is born everyday.
I only deal with sick people on a need 2 know basis until they prove they have healed themselves
DiAngelo is a book seller. She makes her living from churning out drivel and giving speeches.
Nothing worse then a self loathing person .Embarrassing !!!!!
Isn't she just! An embarrassment to the White race!
@@liverbird956 your response is word jujitsu !🥱
@@joeboden9803 Explain what you mean by word Juijitsu please?
@@liverbird956 exclamation points and periods .
Self loathing? Or just telling a difficult truth?
I'm almost done with book, & it's a good read!
It must be exhausting being her.
How do you accuse a stranger, or a group of strangers, of being a derogatory term for no other reason than their skin color ? That in itself is a racist concept. She is delusional and her assertion is weak on it’s face.
Devil
Develop an extremely bloated sense of yourself and find enough fools willing to pay you to promote it
"I am," is the most honest thing she's said. I wouldn't have a problem with Robin DiAngelo if she just talked about trends and self-examination. Or even ways we may unintentionally cause harm. The problem is her projection of 'If I'm like this, other people in my racial demographic are like this because they're like me, and this being a social trend somehow lessens the moral responsibility'. She's not a CRT scholar, but she does build off a lot of CRT concepts and of systemic racism, which is why she tends to get lumped in with the ideology. But I agree she does them badly and is an example of toxic application.
It is human to react when being called out on your faults or shortcomings. But her approach to "diversity training" is very antagonistic and kind of racist, so I'm not surprised she has people walk out or not listen.
I tried reading White Fragility, and I'm sure there are people like her who needed that wakeup call and resonate with the book, but her presumptions about my thoughts as white person were way off base.
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She's a pompass ass hay isn't she. She doesn't speak for je. Just her stupid attention grabbing self. She's like every white girl on facebook talking racism, but all they are doing is drawing attention yo themselves
Then you still don't get it.
@@bryanshepard4052 I "get it". I just disagree with her approach. People can understand you and still not agree with you.
It’s is true her and Tim wise are all we hear about
Good job
Need to buy this book asap!
You’re better off doing something productive instead of wasting your time on garbage
@@SandraMartinez-gv1yf Did you read the book?
Why? You’re black. Go support a black author
@@silkrock7295 Try Toni Morrison.
@@freeindeed8416 Identity politics? Why is it that black people should avoid reading books written by white authors on issues addressing white supremacy? Black people didn't create it.
Wow, finally someone speaking truth and not pandering to the listeners hope to not get honest reactions!!
She’s making money by telling you what you want to hear
Exactly Tanaka! Until Robyn came along, nobody was even talking about racism, so she has really opened people's eyes.
@@univ0997 you probably need to read more about past speakers and present speakers thst talked about recism.
Frederick Douglass
Ida B. Wells
Martin Luther King Jr.
James Baldwin
Malcom X
Stokely Carmichael
Patricia Bidol
Barbara Applebaum
Peggy McIntosh
Audre Lorde
Angela Davis
Richard Delgado
Thomas Sowell
Derrick Bell
Kimberleigh Crenshaw
John McWhorter
Glenn Loury
Jason Riley
Coleman Hughes
Ibram X. Kendi
Hanna Nichole Jones
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Rafael Mangual
Javil Javani
@@univ0997 I learned history………WITHOUT CRT………… Democrats want you to stay stupid and believe the crap you’re spewing.
Nonsense comes in pairs.
high school brain in middle age body. 25 yrs doing this work & has ZERO awareness of criticisms: no idea how falsifiability works, how class works, how binary ideation works, ie NO IDEA that her mind & “work” ARE THE STATUS QUO.
Did she discuss the role black sell-outs play in “nice racism”? I doubt it… But Marc L. Hill fits that description perfectly. He IS NOT in favor of black liberation from white supremacy. But he’ll have you think that he is…
Robin DiAngelo knows more about the root of the CRT drama than Marc... who's supposed to be the journalist.
Both are liars and opportunists.
Wow, this guy has ebonics on demand skills.
Amazing how this is not called out as hate speech. I´m horrified
Absolutely crazy
She said "I'm a sociologist and I'm quite comfortable generalizing about a group of people" but only generalized about white people, if she's "quite comfortable" I'd be interested in hearing her address black people next.
That's not her lane.
It's not Black people in general who created nor benefit from racism and White supremacy.
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@@marcusdarden1535 then whose lane is it? A sociologist, if they’re to have balanced scholarship has to look at each side of the equation. Otherwise you get a distorted view of reality. In other words, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
@@crisjunfan2139 it is not her lane to speak for Black people.
She is not Black.
Also, there is not benefit in looking at "both sides of the equation".
Regarding combatting racism, the two sides are the oppressor and the oppressed.
It is illogical to focus on the actions of the oppressed.
@@marcusdarden1535 There is a benefit. Just as in combatting slavery black people needed allies of good will to fight injustice with them. If white people of the north didn't willingly fight and die, emancipation might have been delayed a hundred years or more. You need allies, like it or not. No group if they are a minority can do it by themselves. That's always been true.I personally don't believe Robin DiAngelo is an ally to African-american people, but if you reject all people of good will speaking on your behalf then you have quite the climb ahead of you. An unnecessarily difficult climb at that.
It is also logical to look at both sides. Oppressor/oppressed is a simplistic paradigm that ignores so much. It shows how saturated your thinking is with CRT modes of thinking. It neglects various factors that contribute to minorities slowness to advance economically.
When you have to deeply study to find racism then you don’t have much of a problem. Some people lived through lynching and slavery; clear cut racism. I think this discussion is the dumbest ever.
@temet nosce wrong. The greatest trick of the devil is instilling fear of him on mankind so that they don’t see their own potential and power above him.
@temet nosce I’m criticizing people who make a big deal about the devil and elevate him in situations he doesn’t even exist. If you need to deeply investigate racism then it’s probably not there.
Should we really listen and take advice from someone who said, and I qoute….” I didn’t even realize I was white unitl I was 34 years old.” ….Nope
I think it's true that people are shaped by group identity and power relations. At the same time she frames it in a way that implies there is no possibility of redemption. She wants people to view her as the one white person who gets it, and that's funny to me.
Are you white? You hear her but your not listening.
THIS IS THE GO ALONE GET ALONG THAT KWAME BROWN IS TALKING ABOUT. ALL TALK NO SOLUTIONS 💩
So much of the debates on racism are about semantics these days. I guess she is getting attention from some people but I have to say she is probably turning more people off then on with the way she speaks.
"I wish every day was diversity day".
This woman is morally defunct. Wow.
Why? What set of YOUR “morals” are you speaking of that she is effectively “defunct” in???
@@gilbertaviles2102 your question makes no sense. And I've tried to make sense of it
Oh,she lives in Seattle Washington, no wonder,a city where there's autonomous zone fits just right.
Race in general is a social construct.
Next on my list.
Dr. Dan Stock
There are black authors
She is speaking about her experience and it is so valuable to hear how white people grow up and are socialized and to also hear solutions.
She is a neurotic suffering from self imposed white guilt. The great majority of whites are in no way similar to her.
@@lucianomezzetta4332 fuck your buzz words.
@@lucianomezzetta4332 You fucking are guilty.
Feeding into black fragility
@@EisirvanaIusaasetamenYi Soy boy is triggered and needs a safe space
I love her! She's just so fantastic!
She's a disgusting profiteer who would happily run a gulag, if she could.
@@gfdthree1 I agree. I was going for irony.
Lots of commenters here apparently doing deep dives of DiAngelo's inner workings from a view videos. Intuition can be a great thing but we all have to be very careful how our own emotions and thoughts can influence our intuition. Whether its MLH, Glenn Loury, Coleman Hughes, Thomas Sowell, Cornel West etc. No matter how many different views i watch abont "racism" its fairly constant in the comment sections.
There are the nutbags from both sides that either claim nothing has changed since Jim Crow or the other nuts that think there is no racism bc slavery ended 160 years ago so get over it.
As is almost always the case the answer is nuanced and has lots of context folks. Although slavery "sort of ended " in 1865 it really didnt and the Voting rights/Civil Rights laws were in my lifetime 60 years ago. Of course there are millions of working class and poor whites doing way worse overall compared to say a Black Harvard graduate. IDK what that means in relation to is there still alot of people walking around thinking most Blacks are lazy, shiftless and want Gov't handouts.
I mean its not even all about color bc watching some of the more Conservative Black creators on social media its hard to determine who's a grifter and who really wants to uplift Black/All people.
The main thing that disturbs me in these discussions is the "all or nothing" takes from both sides. Its going to take personal responsibility and societal changes to try to be sure as many poor and working class people of every color have as good a chance as possible to make it as far as they can.
But honestly, as fair and simple as even that comment sounds there will be many who exalt inequality and praise avarice bc that makes the economy stronger. Never mind about anything like the "public good" or striving to achieve anything other than the richest, wealthiest or most successful as it relates to financial worth being all of our primary goal in life.
Bc the minute anybody brings up things like "public good" or "social conscience" people gonna come at you with their attacks of "Collectivism, Socialism, Communism" and that the "individual is king" oversimplification.
I look forward to all these talks from all sides and maybe in 300 years when we're all a certain hue of Mahogany from inter-marriages it wont matter......but im sure it'll be our hair differences, or nose size that makes for the next and newest Jim Crow whether it be real or imagined.
As for these Corporate trainings we have all attended a million of them an i dont see them doing anything at all. Its like when they send Police officers for "training'. If your an adult and still have these thoughts, and more importantly act on these thoughts, then you alone through your own education need to change and no 3 hr seminar gonna do it.
She the Queen of Karens. There are none higher.
Black news network? Why do you wear a white man's clothes and speaking a white man's language why are you not speaking Swahili? Seems like you're doing a lot of cultural appropriation.
First of all, using the strictest definition of racism, I think we would have to say that all people are racist. It is a very human tendency to make generalizations about different people.
As most black activists have claimed, the issue is who has the power to use his racism to oppress people.
Black people have power
No false!! Europeans created racism. Many Africans see people as people until the pink devil messed everything up on this planet.. No fear, our second Sun is on the return they don't have much time left. Lol
That isn’t the strictest definition of racism, it’s the broadest. If everyone is racist, then no one is in any meaningful sense
Here is a short list of authors who have written about race and racism in the US the past couple of centuries. Many sides or the argument in this group but they are ALL better then Robin D. Even grifters like Kendi & Jones are less of a cultist then Robin D.
Frederick Douglass
Ida B. Wells
Martin Luther King Jr.
James Baldwin
Malcom X
Stokely Carmichael
Patricia Bidol
Barbara Applebaum
Peggy McIntosh
Audre Lorde
Angela Davis
Richard Delgado
Thomas Sowell
Derrick Bell
Kimberleigh Crenshaw
John McWhorter
Glenn Loury
Jason Riley
Coleman Hughes
Ibram X. Kendi
Hanna Nichole Jones
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Rafael Mangual
Javil Javani
Robin - you will NEVER be able to keep men of color away from us white women, maybe the women of color will stay away from white women, but the men won't :)
Disappointed in this interview. I know he agrees with a lot of what she’s saying, but I thought he’ll ask more pressing questions since he did a good job with the Chris Rufo interview. Oh well, weak interview.
Mark showed what a bigot he was in that Rufo intv. He wanted to look smart and came out looking exactly like what he is..a bigot
Reparations Now!
Right fkg now!!!
If you can find a white person to give you reparations, then fine. I'm not giving you a damn thing.
@@nightshiftreports3866 If you can find a white person to give you reparations, then fine. I'm not giving you a damn thing.
@@Scorch1028 no one asked you personally for shit. Its what's owed to us by the collective of America. This country that we built and made the richest nation on the planet. Our part of this pie is due and your opinion on it, much like you are irrelevant.
@@Scorch1028 who ask you!
This lady seems to be a savior to her own people since her platform and message is directed at white people. If her God given purpose allows her to make a living, are we hypocrites by making a living from our gifts and talents? Some of us need to own up to our rejection of all things white!
Thee best interview ive seen you do fam