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    00:00 Intro
    00:51 White people also experience racism
    06:09 The police force is foundationally racist
    12:57 I sometimes wish I was a different race
    16:40 White privilege exists
    20:11 I have been fetishized for my race
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Комментарии • 15 тыс.

  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  Год назад +3352

    Hi Goodhumans - we made an error, and Ciera's name is misspelled in this episode. We are working to get this issue fixed so that her name is represented properly in the video itself, but in the meantime, we know that some of you have been looking for her on social media and having trouble finding her due to our mistake. You can find her here: instagram.com/cierafosterofficial/
    We're working on this and will hopefully have it resolved shortly. Thank you Ciera for being a part of this discussion, and we sincerely apologize for our mistake.

    • @cierafoster8899
      @cierafoster8899 Год назад +282

      Thank you! ,)

    • @fredhammer98340
      @fredhammer98340 Год назад +31

      Please explore the offspring of bi-racial people. The griffes and quadroons need love too.

    • @Sszz501
      @Sszz501 Год назад +78

      You guys should do one with Indigenous Land defenders and White colonial politics!!!

    • @ryanmichaud2363
      @ryanmichaud2363 Год назад +32

      How do you mess up such a simple name? That ciera probably wrote down somewhere for you guys?

    • @fosminclorin
      @fosminclorin Год назад +135

      @@ryanmichaud2363 it's not that big of a deal

  • @andrewnolastname2337
    @andrewnolastname2337 Год назад +3565

    Genuinely believing one race is not capable of experiencing racism is incredibly racist.

    • @alishaoop2676
      @alishaoop2676 11 месяцев назад +494

      its true, idk why white ppl wanna experience racism so bad. no matter what u will never know what its like to be a person of color

    • @jackquack25
      @jackquack25 11 месяцев назад

      @@alishaoop2676 ur wrong. white people experience more racism than blacks

    • @BK-ut3wc
      @BK-ut3wc 11 месяцев назад +720

      @@alishaoop2676 idk why people of colour say racist stuff about white people… then say white people don’t experience racism

    • @shivikap3893
      @shivikap3893 11 месяцев назад +242

      @@alishaoop2676 you do not own experiencing racism and saying "no matter what u will never know what its like to be a person of color" is like boxing all poc into one box. so many poc have experienced racism but alot of it has been from one another, not specifically white people, i would even go to such a degree to say that white ppl are one of the least racist races in the world simply because most of them live in countries like america, canada and other western countries where there is more diversity than anywhere else in the world. alot of white ppl grow up around people of all races because so many people from everywhere immigrate to those countries. but places like asia, africa, europe and etc are actually very racist because they form opinions of other races because they only know what other races are like based on stereotypes. alot of black ppl are racist to asian ppl, europeans are racist to black ppl. i kind of diverted there, but to box billions of ppl in to this one catagory is wrong because all of us are different. and teh statement that poc experience it more than white ppl is true because most of us dont live in diversity but using it as a way to just completely ignore white ppl who do experience racism because "they'll never know what its like to be like us" is completely ignorant and regressive.
      and white ppl dont know what its like to be a poc and they probably never will but then you went out of your way to say they "they tryna be like us so bad" is you also admittedly ignoring their side of the story.

    • @alishaoop2676
      @alishaoop2676 11 месяцев назад +80

      @@shivikap3893 i aint reading allat sorry maybe next time buddy

  • @iamgogo.
    @iamgogo. Год назад +31786

    I actually want to see a middle ground episode between Africans and African Americans. For the most part there are still issues between both groups on whether to identify as one or be separate due to historical experiences, culture and geographic location

    • @DistortedV12
      @DistortedV12 Год назад +228

      Can y'all (and the bots) stop commenting this please?

    • @tree9273
      @tree9273 Год назад +1113

      @@DistortedV12 why u mad

    • @erickdorazco4469
      @erickdorazco4469 Год назад +809

      For real I want to see this. Like the topic would be so much diverse and knowledge.

    • @lettuce258
      @lettuce258 Год назад +737

      People have been asking for this for years now. Why haven’t they done it?

    • @giga_chad911
      @giga_chad911 Год назад +152

      Bro I was thinking the exact same thing when I clicked on the video

  • @brendonslife4584
    @brendonslife4584 9 месяцев назад +665

    "Its prejudice, not racism" prejudice based on race IS racism 😭

    • @GenerationNextNextNext
      @GenerationNextNextNext 4 месяца назад +62

      No. Racism is the belief in the concept of race (race) and to create a distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement (-ism) based on race. The suffix refers to ism, that is the meaning of ism: system. Look up "ism" in the dictionary. Prejudice is simply an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics, making them essentially two very different things if you examine the two words linguistically. But we've constantly changed what the word racism means to make some people more comfortable with it when linguistically the definition is there when you speak. Linguistically, it makes no sense for racism to mean prejudice based on race ALONE. Don't they teach language arts in schools anymore? Think about capitalism and socialism and Marxism. They refer to systems and practices and philosophies due to having the suffix "ism" in them. Capitalism doesn't mean "hatred towards poor people". It's a description of a system (ism) that is based on the prefix: capital. Common sense.

    • @Molehasmoles
      @Molehasmoles 4 месяца назад +91

      @@GenerationNextNextNext Look up some definitions of racism. According to those that I read, racism is not what you're saying it is,

    • @PeterRiello
      @PeterRiello 4 месяца назад +35

      ​@@GenerationNextNextNext -Ism doesn't have to mean system. The suffix ultimately comes from Ancient Greek and it was used to create abstract nouns in general. Not to mention that languages are constantly changing and evolving. Also, I don't think it's accurate to say that people are always changing the definition of racism.
      By the widely accepted definition, a white person being hostile to a black person because they dislike the black race is racism. But according to your definition as you defined it in your comment, it isn't racism because it doesn't involve a system, practice, philosophy, or ideology.

    • @isolatedanonymous1979
      @isolatedanonymous1979 4 месяца назад

      @@GenerationNextNextNextdon’t waste you’re time on these ppl. They’re not as intelligent as you and they choose not to educate themselves about anything.

    • @rottenkittenparvo
      @rottenkittenparvo 4 месяца назад +17

      @@Molehasmolesits more nuanced than that, you just wann be victim sooooo bad

  • @Sara-dz6mi
    @Sara-dz6mi 8 месяцев назад +154

    Prejudice against race is racism.
    Prejudice based on sex is sexism.
    LIFE does not discriminate, PEOPLE do.
    Be proud of your heritage.

    • @sandykouame7123
      @sandykouame7123 Месяц назад +1

      No sexism and racisim are ideology by the ending ism! Nothing to do with prejudice.

    • @Anakin.Skywalker44
      @Anakin.Skywalker44 6 дней назад

      systems do too

    • @Anakin.Skywalker44
      @Anakin.Skywalker44 6 дней назад +1

      @@sandykouame7123 buddy thinks racism is an ideology

  • @katsumiis4699
    @katsumiis4699 Год назад +9131

    I wish more people understood the difference between discrimination and racism.

    • @simianto9957
      @simianto9957 Год назад +1402

      Exactly! Racism can be done by any race and upon any race, discrimination is not race per se

    • @Jay-ny1hb
      @Jay-ny1hb Год назад +586

      I think what you mean and what you should look into more is the definition of both racism and systemic racism.

    • @strrangermike
      @strrangermike Год назад +322

      @@simianto9957 racism is a system. Ur wrong.

    • @shelbyc7285
      @shelbyc7285 Год назад +1143

      @@strrangermike That's incorrect. This is the definition: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. Says nothing about a system.

    • @mmmpenacolada
      @mmmpenacolada Год назад +95

      @@shelseadayardie1310 “or philosophy” … meaning both a system and philosophy. Meaning both systemic and individual..

  • @autumnrichelle1097
    @autumnrichelle1097 Год назад +5408

    We need a “white mom biracial vs black mom biracial” video

    • @kaonashii.
      @kaonashii. Год назад +223

      That would interesting

    • @CurvaceousElite
      @CurvaceousElite Год назад +97

      I would love to see this.

    • @truth-sucks6143
      @truth-sucks6143 Год назад +573

      @Coley cole yes, black mother “biracials”are more aware in my opinion of their black side and more inclined toward their black beauty. White mom “biracials” are not.

    • @CrockyDile15
      @CrockyDile15 Год назад +132

      ...YES. Very huge difference and would be interesting and eye opening to see.

    • @draculacastle8510
      @draculacastle8510 Год назад +245

      There’s definitely a difference. I roomed with a biracial girl who’s mom I knew was white before I even saw her. It’s very telling

  • @aliciajackson8314
    @aliciajackson8314 6 месяцев назад +108

    I love that this was an actual discussion & not an argument. We need more conversations like this.

  • @qinisombili9751
    @qinisombili9751 7 месяцев назад +142

    Bryn is such an amazing woman. When she asked "what's it like" I really saw her humanity and her kindness.

    • @charlesrichardson8694
      @charlesrichardson8694 5 месяцев назад +8

      Completely agree, we need more Bryns in the world

    • @chrissyj_
      @chrissyj_ Месяц назад +4

      completely agree, when she said she was training to be a therapist, it made so much sense. she'll be amazing at her job, we do need more Bryns in this world as the other commenter said

  • @mitchboland9591
    @mitchboland9591 Год назад +6139

    I’m not sure if it was done before, but having 3 different parties in a video is really neat

    • @Mooodyyhhh
      @Mooodyyhhh Год назад +66

      I don’t think it has been

    • @Zombie_Sire
      @Zombie_Sire Год назад +23

      everyone should get a say; i think it should ALWAYS be part of any discussion.

    • @layahud5973
      @layahud5973 Год назад

      the biracials apparently identify as black so it’s really not

    • @Random-sk6hm
      @Random-sk6hm Год назад +17

      I really appreciated it and found it interesting

    • @bvnny1379
      @bvnny1379 Год назад +4

      Same, I agree.

  • @soupcat101
    @soupcat101 Год назад +4510

    For some reason, every single episode of this series or Spectrum makes me really think about how massively complicated humanity's history and morals are.

    • @jamangel
      @jamangel Год назад +7

      WOW

    • @TheSycaman
      @TheSycaman Год назад +42

      Despite that humanity, did you notice that with all of our complexities and difficulties, some groups still got preferential treatment and only some wrongdoing was corrected ?

    • @yeabsetotabirru
      @yeabsetotabirru Год назад +24

      Yeah if your morals are based on ideology and not logic and facts

    • @tmwhisper8086
      @tmwhisper8086 Год назад +5

      Some people choose extreme morals tho and extreme things so it depends

    • @amethystgrace
      @amethystgrace Год назад +17

      * Ding Ding Ding * that's the entire point of producing the series.

  • @zandyknope2907
    @zandyknope2907 10 месяцев назад +15

    I really appreciate how y'all at Jubilee take the comment requests for middle ground episodes! Love what you're doing with this channel!!

  • @NismoXero
    @NismoXero 5 месяцев назад +7

    "I just choose to not focus on it non stop so it doesn't hold me back" The last words are the ones to live by. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @_Palesa_M
    @_Palesa_M Год назад +11775

    I just wish there were more races i.e hispanics, asian etc in order to make the conversation even more nuanced. Too often it seems like the racism is mainly spectacled in black and white spaces whereas it would be great to hear an Asian or Hispanic experience with racism more, and their overall point of view.

    • @thurnishaley6649
      @thurnishaley6649 Год назад +1126

      I hear what you are saying but this is the best way for them to boil it down because there are more white people who strongly judge black people (and vise versa) than any other racial dynamic in the world.

    • @KnijMagz
      @KnijMagz Год назад +528

      @@thurnishaley6649 yeah I agree with that especially in America. Even when we get taught history we speak about Enslaved Africans and racist European colonialist. Every other demographic is not discussed...as if they don't exist in our history until after the Civil rights movement.

    • @lourie966
      @lourie966 Год назад +650

      @@zayah01 As an Asian American, I can tell you firsthand that the experience for me has been Asian vs every other race in America. I think the viewpoint really depends on whatever bubble you’re in and community you’ve been surrounded by. With that being said, I agree w/ OP that there should be a separate video on that to provide more perspective.

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 Год назад +111

      @@thurnishaley6649 Err....well, I'm not sure that's true. I guess it depends how you define 'race'. But there are certainly many countries who clearly have more animosity between ethnic groups. To list a few, African Hunter Gatherers (otherwise known as Pygmies) in the DRC (still widely enslaved BTW), Rohingya Muslims in Burma, Kurds across the Middle East, Roma/Gypsy people in parts of Europe.
      I'm just saying, there is a lot of racial/ethnic strife in the rest of the world, and all the groups I just listed have been targeted by genocide and ethnic cleansing in the past century. By no reasonable metric is the Black/White dynamic in the US the most toxic in the world.

    • @NXTHNU.
      @NXTHNU. Год назад

      Hispanic isn’t a race

  • @tabasco.15
    @tabasco.15 Год назад +4708

    My great great grandfather was one of the first freed slaves in Louisiana able to purchase land. He made sure to put, in writing, on 5 different stationaries (because some lawyers at the time didn't accept a will from a former slave so he had to find one that would legitimize it) that his little plot of land would go to his children. His first son did the same. My grandfather as well. My dad took me to a tiny 1/8 acre of land in Louisiana and said, "Our family is the PROUD owner of this land". It's one of the smallest but biggest, most amazing things I've seen in my life.

    • @animuckelroy6751
      @animuckelroy6751 Год назад +146

      That is so beautiful and powerful. I’m so happy you got to experience a moment like that

    • @MsBre7
      @MsBre7 Год назад +61

      This made me tear up

    • @MrShanester117
      @MrShanester117 Год назад +2

      I don’t even get what that has to do with the video

    • @joltixer3099
      @joltixer3099 Год назад +113

      @@MrShanester117 did you watch the video...? Literally at the end of the video discussing reparations the whole point was that black people were promised land which they never got, and that when they received wealth and land it was often taken from us

    • @dxcoco8578
      @dxcoco8578 Год назад +31

      As a Louisiana native that is awesome and you should be proud. The history is Louisiana is rich and full of incredible people. I wish the government was less corrupt so we could thrive.

  • @jeongnip8287
    @jeongnip8287 9 месяцев назад +20

    i love how everyone respect eachnother. didnt cut anyone and always said “i respect that” i respectfully disagree” like dudeee this is what an actual OPEN MINDED IS. You know you have a diffrent opinion and you know you wouldnt agree with that but you still listen and respected each other experiences. diffrences is just diffrences after all. diffrences makes you learn to respect others.

  • @scott5476
    @scott5476 Год назад +49

    This woman's definition of racism is her own belief. The oxford dictionary says: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

    • @temitayoatanda8588
      @temitayoatanda8588 4 месяца назад +10

      They like to redefine words, to suit their own agenda

    • @isolatedanonymous1979
      @isolatedanonymous1979 4 месяца назад

      Heavy on the last sentence. White ppl minorities CANT be racist towards white ppl

    • @angiewinters
      @angiewinters Месяц назад +1

      Typically one that is a minority or marginalised is in there for a reason

    • @yes-yq4il
      @yes-yq4il Месяц назад +5

      ​@@angiewinters*typically* a minority, not *always*

    • @angiewinters
      @angiewinters Месяц назад

      @@yes-yq4ilTypically means “usually, or most commonly”. White people victimizing themselves in this discussion instead of focusing on the larger problem like oh the trauma of half a millennium of slavery and white extremism they are merely showing how selfish and entitled they are and always have been.

  • @kinojohnson6463
    @kinojohnson6463 Год назад +2446

    Never feel shame of who you are and how you're born.

  • @sonjamiller8711
    @sonjamiller8711 Год назад +5263

    We need a middle ground for native Americans because the negative effects of colonialism are very prevalent in their lives.

    • @ItzMalick
      @ItzMalick Год назад +3

      Yo fam I make a variety of short entertaining videos on RUclips as well, I’m still working on quality, but I 100% guarantee You will find something to enjoy!💛💛💛

    • @Armyblink4life554
      @Armyblink4life554 Год назад +93

      Ikr they need a Native American one that would be cool too

    • @julianaguilar9316
      @julianaguilar9316 Год назад +83

      With "full" blood and biracial natives

    • @davruck1
      @davruck1 Год назад

      native americans are a made up designation. blacks were here before the united states was formed, yet the government wont allow us to be free

    • @SelimxBradley
      @SelimxBradley Год назад

      sucks to suck

  • @Bacon-N-Beer
    @Bacon-N-Beer 2 месяца назад +4

    This was the most well put together group to touch on the subjects. Everyone was wanting to learn something rather than just project something and state cases of experience and just discuss. I definitely feel I was able to take a broader view from more perspective in this video and not feel like it was propagandal input or just forced.

  • @jamiepolk9515
    @jamiepolk9515 7 месяцев назад +57

    when the white girl said you can't win tears just rolled down my face cause its like she really understands. She is perfect to be a therapist.

  • @LibbyRoseITM
    @LibbyRoseITM Год назад +1401

    I think just the fact that everyone stayed completely calm in their tone of voice is really important for these conversations!

    • @Peace-iz7gj
      @Peace-iz7gj 8 месяцев назад +8

      While the beautiful black and biracial women are sitting there victimizing themselves, the white girl in the green jacket is sitting there feeling sorry for them. She say "it sounds exhausting for you" and "you can't win".'. She has them just where she wants them mentally. Poor, helpless,, needy and pitiful.😂😂😂Stop the madness ladies!! Sin will always be present and stop comparing yourself to others and get the job done. PERIOD.

    • @user-gr3wv8ck4b
      @user-gr3wv8ck4b 7 месяцев назад +2

      Maybe they are a group of soeopaths.

    • @robo1513
      @robo1513 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@user-gr3wv8ck4b would you rather everyone talking over each other screaming? That's basically what debate/discussions are now (even in most Jubilee videos) so I find it nice that there's a group of level-headed people.

    • @SonOfDenis
      @SonOfDenis Месяц назад

      @@Peace-iz7gjWTF is you even saying? 😂

    • @Peace-iz7gj
      @Peace-iz7gj Месяц назад

      @@SonOfDenis
      Read it again s l o w l y. 😂

  • @Mannequeer
    @Mannequeer Год назад +2296

    The dictionary definition of racism does not exclude any race from experiencing racism. Prejudice towards a person regarding skin colour is racism.

    • @markita.hardenhome
      @markita.hardenhome Год назад

      Who is responsible for the definitions found in dictionaries? That's a modern definition that fails to capture the origin of "racism" and absolves those that benefited from it and created the idea of it. Lumping folks into caregories that we now call "race" has its ORIGINS in putting one group as superior over another to gain an economic/power advantage. Writing into the original laws of a begining country that those in positions of power (elected officials)......folks who look like us have these rights.....everyone else does NOT. And done with the sheer purpose of giving themselves and those that look like them an unfair access to power, backed by the law, AND access to wealth making. And future laws enacted by this group were made with the same purpose. Propping up self over everyone else. Even when discrimination became ILLEGAL.... they found work arounds....like banning things that other groups were known for doing and making penalties harsher for them....ie. Crack vs. Cocaine. Or barring access to govt. benefits by manipulating the qualification process...like IF your a home owner you can qualify... knowing that a certain demographic would be excluded because they tend to not own homes (cuz well we rejected their mortgage applications). Or saying you must have a degree... knowing that a certain demographic wont have a degree (cuz well we rejected them from universities).....or saying you must know how to read and write (cuz well we made if illegal for them to learn for generations).. you get my point. We have to have HONEST conversations about the REAL definition of racism in America.

    • @Mannequeer
      @Mannequeer Год назад +184

      @@markita.hardenhome the real definition of racism is already a fair definition because like I said, it doesn’t exclude any race from experiencing racism. Racism and institutional racism are not the same and people like you need to understand that.

    • @CDNL.
      @CDNL. Год назад

      Exactly. I can't wrap my head around why people think white people can't experience racism.

    • @crunchychunkypowdery5101
      @crunchychunkypowdery5101 Год назад

      This is not the first and will not be the last time a dictionary definition has been changed to fit the views and narrative of the times. People are offended by the word racism and wanted to be included in the word so they changed the definition to also include white people.

    • @Mannequeer
      @Mannequeer Год назад +2

      @@crunchychunkypowdery5101 the word racism was never changed to include white people, it already included white people. Unless you can provide evidence suggesting otherwise? People aren’t offended by the word racism, people are offended by racist words and actions.

  • @emmanuelerhoyoma3404
    @emmanuelerhoyoma3404 6 месяцев назад +2

    Wow! This is an awesome discourse.... I love the objective and constructive discussion

  • @Addison-RN
    @Addison-RN 6 дней назад +2

    What an amazing group interview with amazong people. Thank you so much

  • @zoinks8868
    @zoinks8868 Год назад +4255

    Do a blind and deaf middle ground. It'll be interesting seeing how they view the world differently without their senses and the different prejudice that goes along with their disabilities.

    • @NeroMai
      @NeroMai Год назад +277

      @thatscarecrow sign language interpreters

    • @zoinks8868
      @zoinks8868 Год назад +89

      @thatscarecrow translators

    • @doornroosje4695
      @doornroosje4695 Год назад +137

      Yes that would be cool. But you need a whole organisation with interpreters so that on there ‘deaf side spot’ and on the ‘middleground spot’ they can understand each other. And maybe guidance for the blind people to middleground chairs if guiding with guiding dogs or guiding cane is not possible or very hard. But i am sure jubilee would be up for the organizational challenge.
      I am dutch so sorry for any mistakes i make in english.

    • @jessicapogson2645
      @jessicapogson2645 Год назад +29

      @thatscarecrow interpreters yes, but lot of deaf people still have a percentage of hearing. not everyone is fully Deaf. they may have had implants or surgery too. or been forced to accustom to a world which does not accustom to them and therefore may have learnt to talk regardless of impairment.

    • @WoahhTeamJacob
      @WoahhTeamJacob Год назад +5

      @thatscarecrow Lmfaoooo

  • @jessicabowers4811
    @jessicabowers4811 Год назад +3013

    The dialog between Jimmy and Ciera was phenomenal. We need more conversations like this.

    • @abe1540
      @abe1540 Год назад +188

      Less Ciera more Jimmy in my opinion.

    • @salemlamminen3611
      @salemlamminen3611 Год назад +303

      @@abe1540 more ciera in my opinion, I loved her ❤️

    • @andreb4339
      @andreb4339 Год назад +141

      @@abe1540 nah more Ciera

    • @AjiaJ
      @AjiaJ Год назад +76

      @@abe1540 definitely not 😅lmfao

    • @p.gizzle90
      @p.gizzle90 Год назад +138

      @@abe1540 Why not more Ciera?
      🤔I speculate, that u feel some type of way about her outspokenness, and thoughts/views. And u lack understanding from her standpoint.

  • @GlamourCat1920
    @GlamourCat1920 8 месяцев назад +2

    This was one of my favorite middle ground episodes!

  • @milaenvy
    @milaenvy 8 месяцев назад +5

    That last guy just bothered me, he's so brainwashed he doesn't even see how it affects his people... so ignorant I hope she changed his way of thinking

    • @amroge8703
      @amroge8703 15 дней назад +3

      I don’t think he’s brainwashed at all. If anything I do agree with him, it didn’t happen to him so he’s not holding a grudge. Of course he believes slavery is bad but he doesn’t think that all white people are bad because of it. My ancestors probably might have had some prejudice and racist views, all I can say is I’m sorry for that but I didn’t do what they did, so why do I have to be held accountable for it? To move forward we have to stop living in the past

  • @emmamariaeveliina
    @emmamariaeveliina Год назад +2160

    When we were taught about racism in school, the definition was "discrimination against someone based on their skincolour, ethnicity etc." So it doesn't only include black people

    • @somekid7
      @somekid7 Год назад

      School doesn't teach you the origin of racism, nor does it teach you correct history. School education should not be the standard.

    • @simulationst4tion
      @simulationst4tion Год назад

      nobody said it's exclusive to black people.. all minorities deal with racism. you cannot be racist to a white person.

    • @yagurlvae401
      @yagurlvae401 Год назад +122

      The teaching criteria is different at all schools mine taught us racism was always towards minorities not white people just cuz ur school taught it doesn’t mean that’s how it is lol lots of schools teach abt false history as well

    • @andrewodinson3726
      @andrewodinson3726 Год назад

      @@yagurlvae401 You can look up the definition of racism on Google, neither of the options state that it is only applicable to minorities.

    • @emmamariaeveliina
      @emmamariaeveliina Год назад +415

      @@yagurlvae401 Do you know what minority means? Minorities vary depending on the area. Black people are a minority in Europe, but white people are a minority in Africa. So if you were taught that racism is against minorities, that means the definition I gave still describes it correctly.

  • @charlesross5837
    @charlesross5837 Год назад +3910

    I want to see a full uncut version of this because I believe the conversations even as deep as they already are, had the potential to be even deeper. Granted I know automatically certain sides can’t speak freely without the internet blasting them, but I do like the idea of sitting together and having a real discussion of past, present and future like this

    • @WoahhTeamJacob
      @WoahhTeamJacob Год назад +14

      Yes

    • @DistortedV12
      @DistortedV12 Год назад +75

      "certain sides" lol

    • @erika3174
      @erika3174 Год назад +123

      These episodes are almost always cut way too short. Feels like half the conversations are missing sometimes

    • @jhsemoxitha3821
      @jhsemoxitha3821 Год назад

      Same

    • @notrealanymoretbh
      @notrealanymoretbh Год назад +54

      “Certain sides” were u referring to the white people who may not have been as transparent due to the internet? 😅(genuine question)

  • @kianna7089
    @kianna7089 2 месяца назад +1

    I think this is one of my favorite middle grounds because everyone was very respectful of each others opinions I enjoyed watching this

  • @kiraplager101
    @kiraplager101 2 месяца назад

    This is one of the most respectful Middle Ground episodes. There was minimal interruptions and they gave each other space to fully express their points of view. And all that done without a moderator! Bravo!

  • @JonathanSnyder1999
    @JonathanSnyder1999 Год назад +2444

    Nuanced, filled with respectfulness, intelligent thought and articulation. This is truly one of the best middle ground episodes I've ever watched.

    • @tangerines5822
      @tangerines5822 Год назад +34

      Agreed, and in particular, I loved Sierra's analysis. Especially the last prompt that was in response to Joshua.

    • @Heimbach1966
      @Heimbach1966 Год назад

      Snyder lmao you aren't White.

    • @JonathanSnyder1999
      @JonathanSnyder1999 Год назад

      @@Heimbach1966 and you lack intelligence. 😒

    • @arrow2589
      @arrow2589 Год назад +7

      For real even the cop was okay

    • @YouAREyoubeYou
      @YouAREyoubeYou Год назад

      Same

  • @tamikash
    @tamikash Год назад +1653

    It would be interesting to get a conversation going between Black people from other countries in the world and Afro Americans to talk about how they view racism.

    • @ms.bubs4fun506
      @ms.bubs4fun506 Год назад +53

      It's very different for African Americans due to slavery, Jim Crow laws, civil rights era and other historical events and animosity between blacks and whites. Africans in Africa are the majority in their countries so they have a different perspective.

    • @Brothisisprivate
      @Brothisisprivate Год назад

      Yep in europe racism is different, but still ruin people’s lives

    • @FaithsStardust
      @FaithsStardust Год назад +103

      @@ms.bubs4fun506 There are Africans in other parts of the world than just African Americans and Africans in Africa..
      Afro Carribeans..
      England
      Spain
      Japan
      France
      Germany..
      The Netherlands
      Pakistan..
      Australia
      The list goes on. All of these groups would bring a different perspective.

    • @corentinnicolas9857
      @corentinnicolas9857 Год назад +32

      Racism issues in the US and France for example is so different. In France, just talking about races to define different ethnicities is completely forbidden and punishable. So it's always interesting for me to see American people discussing about races, or even dealing with races When they vote

    • @Brothisisprivate
      @Brothisisprivate Год назад +20

      @@corentinnicolas9857 On est d’accord ! Et je comprends pas pourquoi beaucoup de personnes de minorités en France veulent transposer des modèles de lutte qui viennent des États-Unis, sur la France. Ce sont deux univers qui ont une vision diamétralement opposée des ethnies, de la discrimination etc …

  • @jayjaymelon8578
    @jayjaymelon8578 6 месяцев назад +2

    i like how calm they remainded and understood each different pov

  • @masongram4590
    @masongram4590 10 месяцев назад +1

    This video is amazing, this how humans should interact and learn and grow, everyone grew from these conversations

  • @mackenziemartin6338
    @mackenziemartin6338 Год назад +2338

    I really appreciated how respectful everyone was. I feel like when people are calm and respectful about an opinion that you don’t necessarily agree with it makes it much more palatable and makes you more likely to listen to the other person and maybe even learn something. That’s definitely something I personally need to work on so I really appreciated the people in this video

    • @MorganCPaige
      @MorganCPaige Год назад +33

      They all genuinely seemed to want to LISTEN

    • @altruex
      @altruex Год назад +8

      Also because there’s consequences. Their being filmed, but there was also probably preliminary contracts or agreement on the mutual respect aspect prior to filming.

    • @liamcomam2787
      @liamcomam2787 Год назад +1

      No one gonna point out that the ”white guy” is Jewish. Jews are not white. Jews don’t call themselves white.

    • @altruex
      @altruex Год назад +3

      @@liamcomam2787 Just my opinion and im also wanting to learn....
      Regarding using skin color to define race, this is why i think using or perpetuating the concepts of white and black etc are just reductionist and problematic. Rather than educating each other on our actual ethnicities, we keep resulting to reducing it to color of our skins which makes it easier to perpetuate these issues further. (not to deny the struggle of black folks or marginalized communities nonetheless, I just see a need to shift away from resulting to these ideas, I often use these terms out of ignorance which I wish I don't as a need to continue to educate myself.
      Added im curious, do Jewish people not consider themselves any particular colour? (with inconsideration to what i said above - in addition, I would assume this is a touchy subject for them as its the whole reason why Jewish communities have face so much trauma with anti-Semitic/white-supremacist attitudes)

    • @GenerationNextNextNext
      @GenerationNextNextNext Год назад +1

      Mackenzie, you are my people. I feel the same. I've been working on that woman in the mirror. It's more refreshing to find people who want to personally grow instead of pointing the fingers.

  • @thetom5522
    @thetom5522 Год назад +748

    Jubilee, we're still waiting for Black Africans vs Black Americans video😭

    • @TiredAmerican247
      @TiredAmerican247 Год назад +45

      That’s too realistic.

    • @ava1772
      @ava1772 Год назад +20

      i would love to see how that one plays out

    • @amberawchild
      @amberawchild Год назад +71

      THAT conversation really needs to be had.

    • @therumtumtiger
      @therumtumtiger Год назад +2

      I'd love to hear each person's perspective.

    • @etdonc3572
      @etdonc3572 Год назад

      If a black american like Ciera has the nerve to say that racism started with slavery in the US and only exist from white to black in that episode, we're gonna have a laugh.

  • @linds9667
    @linds9667 6 месяцев назад +5

    i genuinely liked and respected all of the people speaking in this video, unlike most other videos where at least one person is easily hate-able

  • @mkaylawatts4114
    @mkaylawatts4114 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice episode, I would have loved if one of the mixed girls pretty fairly grew up around both sides or predominantly their black side of the family. I'm sure her perspective would have been a little different. Being that I grew up around my dads side/the black side of my family, my experience was/is for sure different than it would have been if I grew up around my moms side or both equally pretty positive. Not discounting their experiences obviously, it would have just been a nice added perspective

  • @samirai7103
    @samirai7103 Год назад +1114

    I think it would be interesting to see a video on racism for Native Americans. I feel like they don't really get much recognition in these topics so it would be cool to see their perspective on things.

    • @fum7891
      @fum7891 10 месяцев назад +55

      I agree. I too keep on wondering why Native Americans aren't talked about in this topic most of the time.

    • @yk_Its_jax
      @yk_Its_jax 10 месяцев назад +40

      ​@@fum7891im part native and mixed with white and i get bullied more for being white than my hispanic side and have seen my white family memebers being descriminated against for being white its sad

    • @m0x331
      @m0x331 9 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@yk_Its_jaxAs someone who is Mexican but light skin like very, were always joking about white people it's what every Mexican joke since when we were drivin away the land and yeah im pretty sure we still hold a grudge but now looking at it yeah racism is still racism. I hope you talk to your family about the way you feel, talk it out as a family you know. I'm sure you'll work it out if you just talk.

    • @thecrimsondragon9744
      @thecrimsondragon9744 7 месяцев назад +5

      💯 we need channels like Jubilee and Vice to include more discussions debates involving Native Americans and indigenous peoples.

    • @user-no8fs8gs9p
      @user-no8fs8gs9p 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@fum7891 I ask that question all the time. The double standard in this country is baffling. Kansas City Chiefs can have people in the stands doing the tomahawk chop, which I find highly offensive. But they can do this because they are winners. Cleveland Indians, Washington Redskins and other teams have had to change their names, because they weren't winning. Overlooking these racist undertones, because they are winners isn't okay. Indians are probably the most oppressed people in this country.

  • @avakarimi02
    @avakarimi02 Год назад +2156

    This is what a healthy conversation looks like. Many people can't have them but it's always nice to see one :)

  • @alexiscarothers6377
    @alexiscarothers6377 6 месяцев назад

    Suggested this discussion...found this discussion 👏🏽💪🏽👍🏽

  • @Chanelnumber7394
    @Chanelnumber7394 7 месяцев назад

    This was very great for the first time I learnt so much regarding a race conversation

  • @dr.chris8
    @dr.chris8 Год назад +809

    As an African (From Zambia) , I would like to see middle ground between Africans and African-Americans. To make it fair the African sample should include individuals from varying divisions of Africa (southern, central, Eastern, Northern and western Africa) as we are diverse in our cultures and understanding.

    • @Riaaonline
      @Riaaonline Год назад +57

      I swear we been asking for this for years, where our video at lol?!

    • @lovenoelani
      @lovenoelani Год назад +6

      yes but it depends what we’re talking about. are we talking about Black and African Americans? cuz then it should just be black Africans. but if we’re talking about Americans of all races then yes I agree with what you said.

    • @kaykayal2821
      @kaykayal2821 Год назад +26

      So that Africans can bash A.A like they do on TikTok, pass.

    • @JusdoinstuF
      @JusdoinstuF Год назад +5

      can you explain why you want this topic? why not african vs carribeans?

    • @BeWaReJay
      @BeWaReJay Год назад +9

      @@lovenoelani Idk what your trying to say but the term “African” also extends to white South Africans and not just the typical dark skinned African. Apologies if I misinterpreted the message

  • @ghr8184
    @ghr8184 Год назад +1802

    The answer to Jimmy's question of potentially over-specialising the police force is to make every cop go through the same basic training before specialising into "domestic" or "social" or something like that - same as an MD. Every doctor gets a basic level of training before studying particulars of surgery or podiatry.

    • @riku1neo
      @riku1neo Год назад +142

      His argument is still valid. In psychiatry, I'm not managing my patients' blood pressure and diabetes long term.

    • @eklectiktoni
      @eklectiktoni Год назад +39

      I thought that. My gyn still should be able to deal with a broken leg, just in case.

    • @annishamack1642
      @annishamack1642 Год назад +74

      @@riku1neo That goes back to the Original comment. They weren’t saying that the cop that isn’t specialized should be doing it long term, just long enough for the specialist to get there and to properly deal with the situation.

    • @-----------g-
      @-----------g- Год назад +9

      Issue is recruitment and money.

    • @Jewel296
      @Jewel296 Год назад +55

      @@riku1neo if you were a psychiatrist you would still have to go to medical school so you would at least know how to take a blood pressure and know that the values are dangerous and you would know how to take a d-stick and what blood glucose levels are dangerous. Psychiatrist have to be BLS and CPR certified as well so yea psychiatrists can save people's lives because they have general knowledge of medicine

  • @landonmatthew
    @landonmatthew 10 месяцев назад

    this was an amazing conversation

  • @tcking86
    @tcking86 8 месяцев назад +5

    I think for conversations like this they should have biracial people that are outwardly appearing white, black and ambitious. I think from those varying lived experiences you may get different points of view on how they are treated and their family members of lighter or darker complexion.

  • @sophian9105
    @sophian9105 Год назад +2607

    I really appreciate how Sierra kept her cool and explained her position with such grace. But for the most part, everyone in this discussion did a great job!

    • @gashinggustwind5074
      @gashinggustwind5074 Год назад +56

      She did great!!

    • @popcornplaya2013
      @popcornplaya2013 Год назад +218

      @@gashinggustwind5074 sierra had the worst takes out of everyone y’all trippin

    • @duskxdawn347
      @duskxdawn347 Год назад +301

      @@popcornplaya2013 You must be slow💀

    • @imani7979
      @imani7979 Год назад +309

      @@popcornplaya2013 she had a opinions just like everyone else and many of them had historical and statistical backing….

    • @gothicgolem2947
      @gothicgolem2947 Год назад +52

      @@imani7979 that’s fine but we can disagree with her opinons like people do all the time with this show and for me her views that white people experience racism is wrong as her defenition of racism is different to mine and many others

  • @Wraiven22
    @Wraiven22 Год назад +771

    I think it’s interesting hearing the difference in opinion between the black and mixed people who were raised by white people and in white communities vs. black and mixed people who were raised in black neighborhoods by black parents.

    • @ItzMalick
      @ItzMalick Год назад

      Yo fam I make a variety of short entertaining videos on RUclips as well, I’m still working on quality, but I 100% guarantee you will find something to enjoy!💛💛💛

    • @giving7389
      @giving7389 Год назад +28

      The simple fact that some know black/African American/Negro/colored history versus others only understanding the history taught in schools.

    • @-ryn-
      @-ryn- Год назад +65

      They should make one of biracial people raised by black parent vs white parent

    • @aaliyahjackson9734
      @aaliyahjackson9734 Год назад +4

      @@-ryn- what are some questions you would like to hear? I do think there is a cultural difference, but not far from the conversations that were had in this discussion. It definitely an interesting topic

    • @grammaticalchainsaw7318
      @grammaticalchainsaw7318 Год назад

      True

  • @TT-zl1wf
    @TT-zl1wf 10 месяцев назад

    This is the most respectful moment of this series even considering the disagreement. It’s clear why.

  • @halfbaked4203
    @halfbaked4203 Месяц назад +2

    You shouldnt be proud of what race you are, you should be proud of who you are

  • @donaldlusk2035
    @donaldlusk2035 Год назад +1339

    Ciera and Jimmy's conversation was absolutely fantastic. We need more dialogue like this.

    • @kennyjohnson8055
      @kennyjohnson8055 Год назад +51

      We do not need more Jimmy’s

    • @a1yssaa
      @a1yssaa Год назад +68

      @@kennyjohnson8055 No we do need more people willing to learn& change.

    • @-Sober-
      @-Sober- Год назад +25

      @@kennyjohnson8055 what do you hate about jimmy?

    • @kennyjohnson8055
      @kennyjohnson8055 Год назад +2

      @@a1yssaa that ain’t jimmy

    • @kennyjohnson8055
      @kennyjohnson8055 Год назад

      @@-Sober- he’s the personification of every misinfo campaign the GOP has ever run

  • @smilesallround
    @smilesallround Год назад +2359

    Thank you for separating black people and biracial people. It feels like they're always put in the same category, when my experience as a black person is different to that of a biracial person's.

    • @obasiigwecomfort1407
      @obasiigwecomfort1407 Год назад +68

      Me too. I agree

    • @lasupremapersonal615
      @lasupremapersonal615 Год назад +37

      Same!

    • @bonsloweffect1449
      @bonsloweffect1449 Год назад +78

      They are in my country they are classified as a different race so I was surprised that in American they are grouped in with the race that they look like the most

    • @dtvl9468
      @dtvl9468 Год назад +197

      not to mention that biracial people experience unbelievable amounts of racism from black people

    • @AA-ld6sj
      @AA-ld6sj Год назад +157

      @@dtvl9468 same from white people 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @gateaubeaute1396
    @gateaubeaute1396 8 месяцев назад +3

    Jimmy has such a nice voice

  • @hofx666
    @hofx666 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why make these videos if you are going to edit and not show the full conversation, y’all are doing a great disservice to these conversations that deserve to be heard. You owe it to the fans.

  • @kchris5326
    @kchris5326 Год назад +1692

    All races can be racist. Just because people recently decided to try and change the definition, doesn’t mean the definition. When she repeatedly says “racism by definition”, the definition she is using is not the actual definition.

    • @tisbutascratch2045
      @tisbutascratch2045 Год назад +99

      Exactly.

    • @darthdarth4297
      @darthdarth4297 Год назад

      It’s not racism it’s Castism. Race is just our caste system. The Arab slaves trade heavily fetishized white concubines called Harams. Chinese Hans have superior treatment to Turkic and Mongol ethnic groups. It’s everywhere so let’s not go full CRT because racism is a social construct, Castism is a social inevitability

    • @objectivityisourfriend9631
      @objectivityisourfriend9631 Год назад +66

      Thank you.

    • @lewisgraham4174
      @lewisgraham4174 Год назад

      All races can be prejudice. Racism is acting on your prejudices to the detriment of other races. Simply calling me the N word makes a person prejudice. Denying me job despite my qualifications because they don't think a black person should hold certain positions is racism. That's always what it's been. Its only recently that racism has been molded to be a catch all term. If you alter the term racism to include opinions and thoughts without action against said group it easy for the people in positions of power to say to the group they may have oppressed in the are are racist for having negative opinions because of what was done to them.

    • @Unchaise
      @Unchaise Год назад

      people please don't agree with this persons post because all you have to do is type racism into your search engine and itll show you that she was using the correct word, which is racism. yes, all people in the usa can BE prejudice but not all can be racist.... here is how it is defined
      prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized

  • @isadorak178
    @isadorak178 Год назад +1763

    this was a really great conversation. I'm also really glad there was a Jewish person who identifies as white included in the conversation. I think it shows intersectionality and how identities are complex. And how he also acknowledged that he has simultaneously experienced discrimination for being Jewish while also being perceived as white.

    • @alyssastern6073
      @alyssastern6073 Год назад +20

      I am also glad about that.

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Год назад +38

      I liked that too, I wish he talked more though!

    • @isadorak178
      @isadorak178 Год назад +89

      @@haterade3.029 I hear you, and I agree that if you have light skin you automatically have privileges in this world. But Jews, even if they are racially white, are not considered white by many standards (i.e. white nationalists don't believe that white Jews are "white enough." Jews are targeted by white nationalists even if they have light skin/are of European descent.) So it becomes a bit of a tricky issue because it concerns the distinction of ethnicity from race, which are often conflated. Lots of people view this issue differently, so I was glad to see that Jubilee included this perspective to show the complexities of this kind of identity.

    • @etyndigtland
      @etyndigtland Год назад +45

      "identifies as white"... What do you mean?

    • @isadorak178
      @isadorak178 Год назад +64

      ​@@etyndigtland because Jewish people are also targeted under white supremacy, some Jewish people do not consider themselves white, even if they are of European descent. Other Jews of European descent do say that they are white. Of course, people with lighter skin will have privilege in this world, there isn't denying that. But I think that some people consider "white" to be people who would not be targeted by white supremacy, so Jews might not fall into that category for them. It is different for all Jewish people who are white-passing/have light skin, not everyone has the same idea of whiteness in our current society. It also depends a lot on the generation and if someone grew up frequently experiencing discrimination and antisemitism--their understanding of whiteness might be different.

  • @Mdrnsamurai
    @Mdrnsamurai 11 месяцев назад +1

    that was a beautiful conversation and i really wish that our government was more concerned with spending money here in the u.s. to mend our issues rather than sending it overseas... a pipedream, but always hopefully...

  • @user-rk5vb4xu8u
    @user-rk5vb4xu8u 8 месяцев назад

    Is there anywhere i can get the full uncut versions of these?

  • @enamored1
    @enamored1 Год назад +1578

    there is a difference between racism and systemic racism, and that's the core of the debate. any race can experience another person judging them for their race, but not every race experiences systemic racism and it certainly varies by culture and location.

    • @callum__w
      @callum__w Год назад +26

      But where does this just racism come from?

    • @ItzMalick
      @ItzMalick Год назад +1

      Yo fam I make a variety of short entertaining videos on RUclips as well, I’m still working on quality, but I 100% guarantee you will find something to enjoy!💛💛💛

    • @callum__w
      @callum__w Год назад +22

      @@_cry.ab0ut.it_ but that’s not cause you’re white or is it? Genuinely curious

    • @callum__w
      @callum__w Год назад +12

      @@_cry.ab0ut.it_ you mention that your people were enslaved, that means you have history that could cause discrimination today

    • @jessicamarie6448
      @jessicamarie6448 Год назад +49

      @@_cry.ab0ut.it_ isn’t that xenophobia not racism

  • @bellasmith2444
    @bellasmith2444 Год назад +1819

    lots of people need to understand the different types of racism like interpersonal racial prejudice is not the same as historical, structural inequalities.

    • @StarringShameka
      @StarringShameka Год назад +18

      ‼️‼️

    • @balance2599
      @balance2599 Год назад +107

      yeah complaining about how racist people were in the past is cool and all but how tf is that relevant today

    • @juditheorganizer
      @juditheorganizer Год назад +3

      Exactly!

    • @Plaspos
      @Plaspos Год назад +253

      @@balance2599 because the black poverty rate remains 3x the white poverty rate and is largely due to historic discrimination

    • @Jay-ny1hb
      @Jay-ny1hb Год назад +91

      I think that we all need to look at the definition of racism without contemplating too much about power dynamics. I do agree that the power dynamic was key to making systemic racism flourish, but there needs to be a clear delineation between what racism and systemic racism are. Anyone can be racist under its most basic definition, but not everyone will be subject to systemic racism.

  • @Thefittestartist
    @Thefittestartist 8 месяцев назад +1

    The way she calmly read him 27:28 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @sophieb24
    @sophieb24 8 месяцев назад +8

    These ladies are were incredible and on point what a beautiful group.

  • @viktorious8778
    @viktorious8778 Год назад +1469

    As a black person, I really respected Jimmy for being there and sharing his thoughts. He knew he was an outlier as an older white male. And not saying I agreed with everything he said, but can recognize took some guts

    • @katherinerex9067
      @katherinerex9067 Год назад +136

      Agreed, he seemed super respectful too.

    • @DefiningCute
      @DefiningCute Год назад +253

      He is what the black community doesn’t respect. They’ll find every reason not to validate him. When he absolutely did his best. We can’t force the world to change we have to embrace the positive change so it stay. So I applaud him!

    • @talltreeyeti
      @talltreeyeti Год назад +204

      guts? he's the typical type from his generation who thinks they belong in any room they enter and swear they are the smartest person there. what would've took guts was him shutting his mouth and listening instead of talking over black people any chance he got

    • @castrodagoat5842
      @castrodagoat5842 Год назад +47

      @@talltreeyeti he did tht tho

    • @StillJustD
      @StillJustD Год назад +149

      @@castrodagoat5842 he really didn’t. He listened and the he tried to refute every valid point thrown at him as if he can’t comprehend the things people say actually exist because he doesn’t have to encounter them.

  • @rbwhanson
    @rbwhanson Год назад +1043

    "Do white people experience racism?", but yet the group can't even agree on the simple definition of racism. There is racism, which everyone can be a victim of, and then there is institutional racism which may be a different conversation.

    • @dakuten7883
      @dakuten7883 Год назад +27

      Totally agree

    • @whoissoc
      @whoissoc Год назад

      whites don’t experience racism they only experience prejudice, cope !!

    • @nunyabusiness8498
      @nunyabusiness8498 Год назад +181

      Yep. The definition is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." So yes white people can experience racism. That racism will look different than what other races experience in most cases but Ciera saying it's just prejudice and bias is just an attempt at devaluing everyone else's experiences because her experiences out weigh theirs in her eyes. I also didn't appreciate how she brought up incarceration even though no one was talking about incarceration just because the guy that gave a different opinion was a cop. And she condescended towards him by saying how she "taught LAPD".

    • @Submersed24
      @Submersed24 Год назад +27

      No such thing as institutional racism

    • @ezmart878
      @ezmart878 Год назад +97

      @@nunyabusiness8498 That is only one definition of what racism is. There is multiple ways you can define it. Anti white racism has a whole different definition than anti black racism. You are devaluating the experiences of black people by comparing anti white racism to anti black racism. They are not the same. What prejudice do white people face that result in racist outcomes? An individual from another race saying a white person is bad? Nothing comes from that. There is no widescale racism against white people that represent inequality not perpetrated by other white people. Who benefits from racism towards white people? Only white people because only white people have benefited from racism on a broader scale. White people were preferentially treated by all systems in America. From the workforce, to the justice system, to the capitalist market economy.

  • @morganwilson2168
    @morganwilson2168 9 месяцев назад

    I love the “I should have done beeboobeeboop can not commute. Very smart lol

  • @maryj4044
    @maryj4044 9 месяцев назад +4

    Hopefully as more generations come we can teach our kids and their kids to accept others and racism as a whole will decrease.

    • @etj2127
      @etj2127 Месяц назад

      There can’t be any racism when there is only one race

  • @tinyfreckle
    @tinyfreckle Год назад +2300

    This video made me really think about intergenerational wealth, poverty, trauma etc. Part of the reason Joshua didn't feel as strongly about the treatment of his ancestors is because he was adopted and therefore he didn't inherit the benefits or struggles they incurred over their lives. A lot of black people are born into poverty because of the cycle of poverty that was begun by letting slaves free without any compensation or leg up to get themselves started in the world - they were just cut off into the world with just the clothes on their backs. No money, no one willing to give them jobs, no home, no vote, no nothing. But there are also plenty of white kids born into poverty due to their parents having problems with addiction, or gambling, or mental health, or physical health and those kids don't deserve their lot any more or less than black kids. Perhaps society should focus on aiding people in POVERTY regardless of skin colour, funding programs and education in POOR neighbourhoods rather than black or white neighbourhoods. Since statistically black people make up a higher percentage of the poor population more black people would get aid but it wouldn't have anything to do with their skin colour and everything to do with their current situation. That way Native Americans who live in poverty would also get help instead of having to wait for people to remember that they exist too and black people weren't the only race to be fucked over in America.

    • @jononoka1194
      @jononoka1194 Год назад +87

      Very well said

    • @gammalagaga
      @gammalagaga Год назад +40

      Brilliantly said!

    • @caitlinreilly9347
      @caitlinreilly9347 Год назад

      Plenty of white people are born into poverty too. It has much more to do with many other factors besides race. Stop making excuses and break the cycle. All the affirmative action we have now, which is inherently racist btw, it should be fairly easy.

    • @KmChx_MX
      @KmChx_MX Год назад +180

      I think you did a great job bringing American History full circle. However, I believe that Black people are more outwardly spoken about in racism, because they fought/fight back the loudest. I said loudest, and not hardest, because as a black women I cannot speak for other races and refuse to believe every other race took racism with a quiet smile. For instance, Asian immigrants fought against racism through assimilation and climbing the corporate structure in the background, tolerating some horrendous things to get to some of the “top tier” societal structures. I also believe Hispanics fought back as well, but the language barrier made it difficult for them to unite in the POC movement, which is why I also believe we need to learn multiple languages as POC, to better communicate with each other to fight the systemic racism prevalent in our society. There are many other examples I can give, but this comment is already too long, lol

    • @MissCracker
      @MissCracker Год назад

      The most underprivileged group in America are the Irish-Americans. by number of impoverished compared to their total population.

  • @marambenr4888
    @marambenr4888 Год назад +902

    I just wish all POC should have been included, Asians, Hispanics, South asians, Middle Eastern's, and more. A lot of the time when racism is discussed, it is only seen as "black vs. white" when that is not entirely true. SO many races have gone through so much and theres so much history behind the racism they receive. I think its important to include them as well.

    • @jewel7784
      @jewel7784 Год назад +22

      this ^^^^^

    • @jimmiejam508
      @jimmiejam508 Год назад +121

      i think this conversation would have been impossible (too broad and nonspecific) without limiting it to the interactions between two groups of people. that said, i could see other videos dedicated to other dynamics

    • @walkingwithlisa
      @walkingwithlisa Год назад

      Agreed

    • @Mikey-vu5hy
      @Mikey-vu5hy Год назад +63

      Racism in America roots started with black and white. You bring up an excellent segway into something else tho

    • @ahaiajoal9686
      @ahaiajoal9686 Год назад +48

      @@Mikey-vu5hy b you don’t know history at all because racism in America started with natives vs whites

  • @harkimegeddings8551
    @harkimegeddings8551 8 месяцев назад +10

    I feel like many people have discrimination confused with racism. The two are similar but NOT the same. But I appreciate “middle ground” holding conversations like this one! I love all human beings!! ❤

    • @sarahh7369
      @sarahh7369 8 месяцев назад +9

      Racism is discrimination though. It's discrimination based on race. Sexism is discrimination based on sex, classism is discrimination based on class, etc.

    • @man-gaming
      @man-gaming 6 месяцев назад

      @@sarahh7369 EXACTLY!

  • @7somekindofsomething
    @7somekindofsomething 7 месяцев назад +8

    This is how adults should speak to each other 👏 Great stuff.

  • @sebastianf6499
    @sebastianf6499 Год назад +1368

    I wish they included the issue of class in this discussion. I disagree with the assumption that I, as a black person, can’t be racist towards a white person because racism involves the dynamics of power. But, isn’t the power in question largely enabled by classism, a issue that’s pervasive across communities regardless of color?

    • @tn1340
      @tn1340 Год назад +28

      So true!

    • @daniel_kale
      @daniel_kale Год назад

      Racism is a product of classism but nobody wants to discuss that because it will disrupt the Elites use of racial identity politics to keep the working class from rising up and dismantling the capitalist system that's destroying us.

    • @MrPassigo
      @MrPassigo Год назад

      Also if you're a white person in china for example you will experience racism. Thinking white people can't experience racism is coming from a really narrow world view.

    • @rico4101
      @rico4101 Год назад +23

      Straight Facts

    • @DonaldAMisc
      @DonaldAMisc Год назад +57

      Unfortunately it takes more conservative voices to mention how class contributes to the problem, probably because it doesn't neatly fit into the simplistic narrative of systemic racism (to add, I'm not a conservative).

  • @keirorin
    @keirorin Год назад +391

    Love the concept of a 3-group middle ground. Would love to see more of that, especially for overgeneralized groups like Asians. Maybe an episode for East & Southeast & South Asians. Or even Mainland Asians, Maritime Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders.

    • @teresachimuco5603
      @teresachimuco5603 Год назад +2

      Yes 👏🏾👏🏾

    • @YouAREyoubeYou
      @YouAREyoubeYou Год назад

      “Black people” is thee most over generalized group there is. Hence the problem for reparations.

    • @juzrhyme712
      @juzrhyme712 Год назад +1

      Why, all asian are pretty much the same in america

    • @keirorin
      @keirorin Год назад +11

      @@juzrhyme712 ...? What was the point of this comment

    • @DestopLine
      @DestopLine Год назад +2

      @@juzrhyme712 who mentioned america?

  • @neekarobertson8314
    @neekarobertson8314 4 месяца назад +6

    As a wife of an officer, you can’t just send a social worker to a call. Police shouldn’t be dealing directly with the mental health call but still need to respond with the social worker. Most of those calls are dealing with the worse parts of mental health that easily turn violent.

    • @adaminflux
      @adaminflux Месяц назад

      I think it’s fine if police respond but they should be sent with therapists or social workers-people who *are* to manage and deescalated certain crises. Yes, the officers can be there for help and to keep things safe but the presence of a licensed mental health professional could do wonders in facilitating understanding between all parties.

  • @Sesetse-rz5xx
    @Sesetse-rz5xx 19 дней назад +1

    Honestly, this is so interesting to watch because although I may not look white (my mom's side of the family is native American so I am around 15% and I personally inherited naturally very dark skin- often being mistaken for light-skinned or mixed) I am majority white which has put me in a situation to observe many things. especially in the way, people interact with my white-looking friends. I have seen and heard how they are treated and honestly, it leaves me very surprised with how people say things to them and never get in trouble( I am still in school). Also I go to a school that is VERY diverse with people ranging from all races.
    Almost every week I hear someone calling them a cracker ( which in my opinion is like calling someone the N-word) and then when anything happens they start to say things like "ya its because your white and that's why" when often times the situation has nothing to do with skin color. Even when they talk about life at home I will hear comments like "Wow my black family could never" when I know that these people have a better home life than the said white person. Then It also makes me mad when I hear these people get pressed when someone even slightly mentions ANYTHING to do with their skin they start saying they are racist well they are being completely serious. This also interests me because would people be saying these things to me if my skin was a slight bit paler? because that could have easily been me since some of my siblings have very pale skin which means just a slight change in my inheritance and that literally would be me. So I can very obviously tell these comments have nothing to do with the culture or behavior of white people since I was raised in the exact same way as my white friends(albeit a slight difference because yk different families have different rules) and these comments are never said to me when the only difference between me and my friends are skin color.
    I think that overall I don't understand how people just talk and talk about wanting to end racism and stuff but yet talk about things like white privilege in this day and age. Like ya maybe 30 or more years ago and maybe even with the older generation but how does it make it ok to very blatantly be racist just because someone has less melanin than you and therefore means that their ancestors beat yours so that means you can hurt them for someone you most likely have never met in your entire life.
    And I'm not trying to say that it's okay to be racist to other people than white just LITERALLY the golden rule of treating someone the way you want to be treated. If you want to end racism (or don't want people to be racist to you) maybe don't be racist because I can assure you using a slur daily is being racist. (also, I'm not saying that the term cracker is as bad as the N-word I'm just saying a slur is still a slur no matter the weight behind it)
    Cracker definition: encompasses a broader derogatory connotation. It became synonymous with ignorance, backwardness, and perceived inferiority, perpetuating stereotypes about poor white Southerners as uneducated, criminals.
    Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group
    Also, I don't particularly understand why people get annoyed when asked what they are maybe this is different for some people but I am stopped on a daily basis to be asked what I am, I mean I know I look different with blonde straight long hair and pretty dark skin with brown eyes like I just don't understand why people get mad at peoples curiosity like if you're so proud of your race then why do you get mad when people ask questions about it?
    If you read all that thx :) just got a little heated there and I would love for you to leave your own experiences or opinions in the replies

  • @Nachoza
    @Nachoza Год назад +1086

    As an indigenous woman, who grew up in a town where whites people were the minority. White people can absolutely experience racism. I now have 2 white sons and I’m honestly concerned for the hatred that some people of colour have for white people, every race has racist people. I feel like, if anything, hate against white men is becoming more normalized. I do not want to see the future progressing in that way.

    • @Unchaise
      @Unchaise Год назад

      how do you have white children if youre not white yourself? and no theey cant because the usa is majority white ...... racism defined as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

    • @Nachoza
      @Nachoza Год назад +5

      @@Unchaise their dad is white??

    • @shinjayzilla8553
      @shinjayzilla8553 Год назад +104

      My gf is half cherokee, she was dating a guy a while back who was full cherokee and when meeting his mother she didnt like her because she was half white.

    • @Nachoza
      @Nachoza Год назад +35

      @@shinjayzilla8553 ya exactly I seen this happen to lots of ppl

    • @shinjayzilla8553
      @shinjayzilla8553 Год назад +37

      @@Nachoza yea, members of my family are guilty of it. My sister has a half black daughter and i had to tell a couple family members its pretty shitty that youre pissed and crying about having a mixed child being born into the family.

  • @Nicholenickinicscott
    @Nicholenickinicscott Год назад +1093

    I use to be the pro black woman that use to be like "white people don't exprience racism" "I can call a white person this and that and people would agree with me who also share my views" it took me actually saying a Paul joke and realizing from consequences that even if I'm not talking about the white person near me, it's still racist and hurtful just like if a white person called me a slur, I'm no longer extremely pro black where I'm blinded, Watching videos like this I feel has made me a better person cause of these conversations

    • @xylek9483
      @xylek9483 Год назад +218

      That's interesting to me, because I'm on the other side in that I'm white and for years I thought white people don't experience racism. In fact, I welcomed ugly comments and made fun of my own race because it was acceptable. Even when my black boyfriend, who I was totally in love with, told me it was "my people's" fault for terrible things that happened to his ancestors, I couldn't say anything. Videos like this have given me some insight to recognize that I don't have to be apologetic for what my ancestors did, that every race and culture has some ugly history, and it's not okay to treat anyone different based on their skin color, even if they are white. I believe that we as humans have the ability to unite together despite differences between skin color, history, culture, and even borders. I have hope for the future, to improve racial tensions and bring justice, not revenge.

    • @mclohan
      @mclohan Год назад +130

      @@xylek9483 same. Though I’m mixed. I still felt it was alright to make slurs towards whites because it was just “funny” and deserved. As a I got older I realized any slurs towards anyone shouldn’t be accepted. Also, yes like they say “the sins of the father”. No one should be held accountable for something their ancestors did.

    • @Nicholenickinicscott
      @Nicholenickinicscott Год назад +18

      @xylek yeah so true, I'm glad I'm in a better place mindset wise cause the way I was going on wasn't great or healthy for me. I stay clear of racist people cause I never want to be like that at all

    • @Nicholenickinicscott
      @Nicholenickinicscott Год назад +11

      @@mclohan that's true, I'm just wary of the ones that are racist and act all high and mighty

    • @oneperson5760
      @oneperson5760 Год назад +79

      White people do experience racism, especially when theyre a little red headed child and a group of black kids are beating that child bloody and calling him racial slurs. And then the school does nothing about it because its black on white violence and not the other way around. My son is grown now and still has the scars on his skin. Black kids were trying really hard to beat racism into him, and hes done a fair job of not holding it against black people in general, though he is cautious. Thank you for considering that racism isnt a one way thing.

  • @victoriaelena6008
    @victoriaelena6008 6 месяцев назад

    Great people great discussions great representation of mentalities love it

  • @lostoffice
    @lostoffice Год назад +1088

    I think one of the major problems of discussing racism like this in the larger society is that there is still an ongoing battle over the language. You could get glimpses of it in this video. There are two different understandings of what racism is. While I do agree with Sierra, a lot of people won't be able to get past her approaching racism in a more academic sense. Unfortunately, the more specific terminology such as systemic racism has already become a trigger word. It's hard to see how to work through these issues when some people seem to be intentionally trying to divide us into separate realities.

    • @ItzMalick
      @ItzMalick Год назад +1

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    • @vdominor7886
      @vdominor7886 Год назад +115

      This is an excellent point. I tuned in and was immediately turned off by the first question, 'triggered' you might even say.
      I think it's preposterous to say that white people do not/cannot experience racism, as I generally prefer to identify interpersonal racism (your classmate calling you a racial slur, or other 1 to 1 day to day experiences) and systemic racism (as enacted by governmental bodies and policy) as two different concepts under the general umbrella of 'racism.' And, if you look outside of America, white people can certainly experience both of these things- literally any racial group can.
      The push to discredit these facts and narrow the definition turns a lot of people away from the discussion entirely, as it suggests that those touting the 'white people can't experience racism' argument refuse to see the world for what it is (hella messy) and discredits anything else they might say.
      Luckily I kept watching to hear this group make many other great points and have a wonderful discussion - but the divide over language and definition most definitely undermines opportunities for conversation and real empathy among people from different races and schools of thought.

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Год назад +58

      Yes, Yt folks and other anti-Black folks see calling out anti-Blackness and systematic racism as an attack on them. It’s entitlement.

    • @slatt__
      @slatt__ Год назад +65

      exactly. instead of talking about racism its always switched to “thats not racism” which doesnt help. one of the top comments on this video is exactly that whiny remark. “i wish people realized the difference between racism and discrimination” which is a very futile approach. you can tell who has and hasnt studied this from an academic point (ex. sociology)

    • @mcgullible5212
      @mcgullible5212 Год назад

      The redefinition of racism into systemic racism is just a way to gatekeep racism so white people cannot use it on themselves. There's an understanding of what systemic racism is and what racism is and everyone gets it. People that pretend their isn't are just dishonest.

  • @TokyoBayCity
    @TokyoBayCity Год назад +65

    The semantic debate over the word “racism” really annoys me. The dictionary definition of racism does not restrict its meaning to only being institutional. Racism on an interpersonal level is still by definition racism.

    • @maishesbeautiful
      @maishesbeautiful 3 месяца назад +9

      agreed. even when he asked her she went allll around instead of answering the question. she made her own definition up which is weird, it shows her own prejudice 🙄 IM A PROUD BLACK WOMAN BTW!

    • @spikedmo
      @spikedmo 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah nobody thinks of racism in their own life in that systemic way. Nobody goes "Something really racist happened to me yesterday, I went home and all my neighbours were black."

    • @velmano9191
      @velmano9191 2 месяца назад +2

      Racism starts at the interpersonal level, well before it manifests itself at the institutional level. So by picking and choosing WHICH DEFINITION OF RACISM you want to go by, you really are missing the point when it comes to talking about racism. I find people who pick and choose this definition of racism, the institutional definition, are themselves racist or want to be allowed that 'black privilege' of being racist while not being called out on it. It's sort of like those racist trolls you see on the internet but you'll NEVER see them say these things face to face in public. Don't be a shy racist...own up to your flaw.

    • @LS-jv9hp
      @LS-jv9hp 2 месяца назад +1

      Don't even need a dictionary, it's the same for sociology as the well. The field that focuses and wrote the book for these definitions. The field that black people have been brutalising to turn Systemic Racism and Racism into the same thing when there both their own seperate social problems.

  • @Dodong_JekJek
    @Dodong_JekJek 8 месяцев назад +2

    I’m a proud straight white male.

    • @JB-zd8gv
      @JB-zd8gv 23 дня назад

      Im a proud gay atheist white male

  • @bodytrainer1crane730
    @bodytrainer1crane730 2 месяца назад

    What an awesome conversation!

  • @ledernierutopiste
    @ledernierutopiste Год назад +949

    It's unfair to change the definition of a word for political reason, i'm black and i disagree with her definition. the US isn't the only country on this planet, racism has existed all over the world, it has many translation in many language, and it absolutely didn't start with slavery in america, that's just wrong. The word racism has a meaning, the political racism/systemic racism or whatever that happens in the US is another, you're not the center of the world. You can not say that nazism ideology which is by definition racist, wasn't racist toward jewish, roms, slavs, because they're not part of the history of slavery in america. That woman is wrong, and she is too confident with her take, I feel like black americans are being foogazed by these activists who change words and history depending on what benefit them. If you're black american, I really please dare you, to learn about the rest of the world, and history, please... your country and your experience is not the only one in this world.

    • @Kratossterone
      @Kratossterone Год назад +147

      she has literally 0 knowledge and should take some lessons

    • @camillaallegrucci1311
      @camillaallegrucci1311 Год назад +1

      "You are not the center of the world".
      Unfortunately, a sizeable chunk of Americans don't realize this simple truth. And progressives can be the worst offenders.

    • @zoinks8868
      @zoinks8868 Год назад +65

      @@Kratossterone she's politically uninformed.

    • @itsnatemate7697
      @itsnatemate7697 Год назад +172

      @@Kratossterone If you’re referring to Ciera (which I’m not sure if you are) then you’re wrong. She stated historical facts during the conversation and didn’t just say things just from no where.

    • @Julie-qr9ow
      @Julie-qr9ow Год назад

      If progressives can change the definition of “woman” for political reasons then you guys can do the same for racism. Also white people can’t be victims of an ideology they created.

  • @dylanshobanjo2519
    @dylanshobanjo2519 Год назад +485

    I love how understanding everyone was of each other’s views even when they clearly struck a nerve ,they responded clearly but calmly. This is how you have conversations!

    • @Hencid
      @Hencid Год назад +17

      i don't think the cop was understanding like nobody changed their mind but at least they were replying to answers directly instead of throwing personal anecdotes of viewing the situation through a job description

  • @e11imacc69
    @e11imacc69 Месяц назад

    Excellent discussion!

  • @chrismanous2287
    @chrismanous2287 7 месяцев назад +7

    Jimmy was brilliant. Very wise, honest, and logical. I’m sure he was a great officer

  • @starachinia7564
    @starachinia7564 Год назад +954

    This is my favourite episode so far! Everyone was so respectful of each others opinion and I feel like everyone actually listened!

    • @ItzMalick
      @ItzMalick Год назад

      Yo fam I make a variety of short entertaining videos on RUclips as well, I’m still working on quality, but I 100% guarantee you will find something to enjoy!💛💛💛

    • @imokage
      @imokage Год назад +4

      Exactly, this episode is the best for sure

    • @negritaamara4216
      @negritaamara4216 Год назад

      I agree!

  • @meganguest
    @meganguest Год назад +693

    this was such a lovely transparent and respectful conversation. everyone's input was validated and valued by the rest of the group. it is so evident that everyone came simply to understand. this is how we come together and move forward. ❤️

    • @okieoiogh8235
      @okieoiogh8235 Год назад

      Do you like farting?

    • @BlackMantisRed
      @BlackMantisRed Год назад +7

      No one in this discussion got there views validated.

    • @DEVONS_PRONATOR
      @DEVONS_PRONATOR Год назад +1

      Yup. Each person's position is valid. But as some act like their position and experiences are more valid.

  • @StuartHetzler
    @StuartHetzler 4 месяца назад +4

    Stop letting people repeat the lie that racism by definition must be systemic and include a power dynamic. It's a dumbass definition invented by a sociologist just a few decades ago. Words are defined by those who speak the language. You can't just have one clown suddenly decide the definition of "sad" is now "to be excited". We have to collectively agree and accept that definition. If there isn't consensus, then the redefinition doesn't stand. Racism, like literally any other -ism, is an ideology and belief system.

  • @roythurston7799
    @roythurston7799 Год назад

    WOW!!!!! This was GREAT!

  • @Drooopyy
    @Drooopyy Год назад +110

    Bryn will make a fantastic therapist, her understanding and listening skills are insane

    • @elijahmeadows68
      @elijahmeadows68 Год назад +3

      That death stare she has scares me a bit.

    • @vn9933
      @vn9933 Год назад +2

      I like her
      Her listening skills are 👏🏾

  • @etherwxlf
    @etherwxlf Год назад +524

    Does anyone else come out of this feeling like...we didn't learn anything? Maybe it's just me, but it just feels like nothing resulted from the conversations. It was just "I have this opinion." "I agree but I also disagree." "I disagree but I also agree." "Next topic"

    • @FrostLordOni
      @FrostLordOni Год назад +98

      I’d love to see a show where it’s just one on one, and both sides have to describe their position to the other, and it ends with each side having to explain the position of the other side in their own words. It would be interesting to see who actually understands what their opposition thinks, and who either can’t or won’t understand

    • @etherwxlf
      @etherwxlf Год назад +62

      @@FrostLordOni Actually, that WOULD be a great idea. @Jubilee you should do that, call it "One On One," where the premise is to have two parties (doesn't even have to be just one person each side) of directly opposing ideas, try their hardest to understand the other side. That's kinda what Middle Ground is supposed to be about but at this point Middle Ground is more-so sharing opinions than conflicting perspectives.
      One On One should specifically be about ideological conflict and attempting to reconcile differences, hence why keeping the two parties small is probably a must.

    • @marcos223ful
      @marcos223ful Год назад +63

      Middle ground is more of getting a perspective view and not supposed to resolute anything. As you see everyone has different experiences and views that we can not change. BUT what the video is doing, is to acknowledge and explain why the most debated racial topics are constantly brought up. Hence why the disclaimer was at the beginning because believe or not....there are humans that get their resources from one source and based it all on a race collectively.

    • @PanDaL0v3r11
      @PanDaL0v3r11 Год назад +11

      That’s how so many political conversations go unfortunately

    • @SunnyGee-jd6pb
      @SunnyGee-jd6pb Год назад +6

      @@PanDaL0v3r11 this shouldn’t be political tho. People are legit sharing experiences

  • @mixedbread1
    @mixedbread1 8 месяцев назад +2

    She's an actor... that's all I needed to hear..

  • @potatofuryy
    @potatofuryy 10 месяцев назад +5

    The US view on “race” is truly fascinating. Its so weirdly black and white and it seems to view people as completely separate groups of people who can barely coexist.

    • @ashleywoodcock1712
      @ashleywoodcock1712 10 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately you haven’t had the chance to experience that your statement is incorrect.

  • @kiallima2064
    @kiallima2064 Год назад +1082

    I genuinely started crying listening to Christina. Almost all of my best friends have been mixed, and being mixed myself I've wished I was other races, I've been confused, I've missed out on the black side of my family. I feel for her so much, and I hope this is something more people begin to understand. I've longed to be white with straight hair and blue eyes, felt guilt for feeling that, and felt like I missed out on a part of myself.

    • @hotpocket_42o
      @hotpocket_42o Год назад +20

      WOW, you put it in words frl i feel this

    • @mackenziepalmer
      @mackenziepalmer Год назад +37

      Black people have felt this too, not just biracials

    • @Kmama801
      @Kmama801 Год назад +18

      I hope you get to learn about your black side as well ❤️

    • @tim.kelly7136
      @tim.kelly7136 Год назад +70

      @@mackenziepalmer it's really not the same. Biracial kids are missing out on half of their identity and it's not so easy to access it when they're growing up in a single parent home.

    • @mynotificationsareoff..goc358
      @mynotificationsareoff..goc358 Год назад

      @@tim.kelly7136 it's not the white person's fault that their other side won't step up. But it's always put on white ppl like it's their problem. It's not. It's the parents problem who isn't stepping up period.

  • @madisonclark6607
    @madisonclark6607 Год назад +243

    This was honestly one of the best conversations I've seen from this channel. Everyone listened to each other with empathy and respect. It was so beautiful to watch this group converse and learn from each other. Would love to see more of this convo is possible.

    • @Peace-iz7gj
      @Peace-iz7gj 8 месяцев назад +2

      While the beautiful black and biracial women are sitting there victimizing themselves, the white girl in the green jacket is sitting there feeling sorry for them. She say "it sounds exhausting for you" and "you can't win".'. She has them just where she wants them mentally. Poor, helpless,, needy and pitiful.😂😂😂Stop the madness ladies!! Sin will always be present and stop comparing yourself to others and get the job done. PERIOD.

    • @MrFolky77
      @MrFolky77 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Peace-iz7gjWell spoken!!

    • @MrFolky77
      @MrFolky77 7 месяцев назад

      Really?? Well you must be black, then! It was NOT about y'all, for once!! But all these black people did qas complain about the supposed racism against THEM, when the topic of the conversation was whether there was racism agaisnt WHITES!!! This qas the WORST deb2te I've seen on that channel, by far!

  • @Wokemelanaire
    @Wokemelanaire Месяц назад +1

    S/O 2 Ciera!!! I so appreciate the knowledge she shared and her standing on the truth!!

  • @lindseyhiebsch6322
    @lindseyhiebsch6322 8 месяцев назад

    I used to have dread locks as a white person, definitely had to worry about my hair style. As a woman, I also worming I the food industry most times, I've been denied jobs because I can't speak Spanish as well.