"Biracial isn’t black!" The rising tension of the one drop rule 👀 | Khadija Mbowe
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I was just coming to comment about how beautiful this video was!!! You're literally so talented and gorgeous
I see the quotes around it. I get it. That's a rough title. Something obviously used against us. But then again, that's everything lol
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@@coffeewednesday553you are not the authority. You might not think they’re ethnically mixed but that doesn’t make it untrue. Open your mind and heart.
Personally, after reading the definition of ethnic, I can definitely see how being ethnically mixed is a thing. I’m interested as to why you think it isn’t.
I’m Blasian. I consider myself black and Filipino. No matter what anyone tells me. I’ve been told I didn’t belong on both sides. Idc though. My life experience is still a Black and Filipino experience. No one is gonna tell me who I am except for me.
Period! NOBODY can tell ANYBODY what THEIR lived experience is just bc they’re suffering from insecurity, resentment and or inadequacy which I as a Caribbean American Black woman feel is the ROOT of why I’ve ONLY been seeing monoracial BW at the HELM of these trash revisionist gaslighting delulu think-pieces about OTHER mixed race Black WOMEN, it’s never abt the mixed race Blk MALES. It’s very clear to me by them being the only ones spearheading these discussions the past few yrs on twitter and RUclips. It’s very much giving projection that the LIGHT SKINNED biracial Blk girlies are beneficiaries of colorism-a system they did not create yet receive all the flak for because they’re pedestalized in the Blk community by colorist Blk folks and mainly colorist Blk MALES. It’s always abt desirability for women and jealousy.
Projection projection projection. I emphasized and put in all caps the term light skinned bc God knows these same “pro Black” “Black” women, who posture themselves as Blk superiority while they themselves are descendants of chattel slavery and are mixed, do not give af about including biracial Ryan Destiny in their “she ain’t Blk she biracial” delulu rants, bc her dark skin and beauty validates these women and makes them feel represented as far as dark skin beauty goes, which is fine, except it’s insanely hypocritical lol.
Notice how these same “pro black” anti-Black descendants of chattel slavery who love to stoke yt supremacist divide&conquer tactics and are unfailingly women, never got the same energy for Malcom X who was biracial and both fought and died on behalf of ALL Blk folks , Frederick Douglass who DESPITE being biracial was born into slavery and became an abolitionist, Bob Marley who was biracial, Jimi Hendrix, Prince who was visibly MIXED, Lenny Kravitz who is MIXED, Colin Kaepernick, J Cole, Drake, Joyner Lucas, not even Rihanna who has a biracial FATHER and a yt grandparent, lol, not even Beyoncé who is CREOLE aka inherently MIXED race with a mother who is VISIBLY mixed and who was even white presenting upon first look to Beyoncé’s father according to him, nah, Rihanna and Beyoncé are convenient enough for these anti Black perpetually resentful women to claim as Black women since they are by far the most positive representation for us in the media, and bc of course they came out during a time when these “she ain’t Blk she biracial” delulu rants weren’t being spouted since there was no social media thus nobody was crazed enough to say that bs in person.
Point is, it’s ONLY EVER the LIGHT SKINNED, biracial Black WOMEN, never the males. Why? Bc it’s a projection of RESENTMENT on their end that LS biracial BW are pedestalized in the community due to hue, and bc they benefit from colorism and or featurism which makes them more desirable superficially according to these systems. Their shxt is never rooted in reality or fact rather than projection and petty ass jealousy abt not feeling as tho they’re seen enough in the media so let’s just lash out by saying that the biracial Blk girlies ain’t Blk and gaslight them until they’re beaten down and brainwashed enough to create a “lightskin” and or “mixed” community. Lol.
You know who else they don’t say “she’s biracial not Black” abt? Lauren London. She came out during a time when that bs wasn’t being spouted too and any anti Black Black woman knows that she would b looks at crazy if she attempted to say that Lauren wasn’t Black. They pick and choose and think that God descended from the sky and knighted them gatekeepers of Blackness lmao. Also, referring to the inherently revisionist and incorrect title of this video in which the topic is so played out at this point, the one drop rule upon its creation as a concept historically NEVER ONCE applied to HALF BLACK people as they were Black then and now and as their having a Black PARENT would indicate more than a “drop of Blackness”
I mean it’s pretty self explanatory and yet creators like this knowingly continue to spread lies re the term to ostracize biracial Blk people it seems; the concept applied to WHITE PEOPLE with DISTANT AFRICAN ANCESTRY who upon getting found out by their yt counterparts, were ostracized by white folks and had their privileges revoked according to their DROP OF BLACKNESS.
It’s easier to say it applied to biracial Blk people tho with 50% African ancestry although easily disputable so that it could convenience the argument of these anti Blk women many of whom are, again, descendants of chattel slavery and yet think they’re 100% African and have authority to tell light skinned BW how they navigate society, that are looking to push them out of Blackness due to their deep seated insecurity and resentment about their phenotypes.
Beyoncé herself is mixed and although the anti Black bitter Betty’s attempted to say that her light skinned behind was “tryna be white” even tho she only did was heaps of Black women have done before her, not even now is the critique that “she ain’t Black she mixed,” bc THEY know how much backlash they’d get. So they go for the light skinned Blk women who are not as revered to lash out at. Like Yara Shahidi, like Tyla, like Ice Spice, like Cardi B, like Zendaya, like Tracee Ellis Ross etc.
All to say, I agree with you. Blackness is more than skin color; it’s a birthright, it’s culture. You have it. Nobody can tell anybody how THEY navigate society. I remember in 2020 reading in the news how a biracial, lightskinned Black girl with “pretty privilege” who would’ve never suffered from racism according to many of these anti Black “Black” women, suffered from an acid attack IN the states by white supremacists.
Claim ur Blackness until the day you mf die regardless of what these chronically online, envious, anti Black “black” women who constantly switch up the goal posts according to who the subject is b sayin. Blackness comes in different shades and it is very diverse, it always has been. This is a reality those kind of women want to eradicate bc for their own reasons, they want to b the only depiction of Blackness and the only source of coolness, lol.
@@SupernaturalLove100I understand your point, it is true that some people underestimate the discrimination that mixed people go through.
However, I do think that it is a disservice to the complexity of the mixed identity to just call anyone with one black ancestor black, why can’t they be both ?
Same. I'm Black/Japanese
If you bircial then you biracial. Don’t let nobody tell you different from what you born with chile
I think it’s time for us as a country to acknowledge the differences in how our indigenous people and black people are treated and why. The one drop rule was created as a way to ignore the systematic rape of black people and to refuse to acknowledge the children that were the byproduct of that. Native Americans have to prove their genetic ancestry to even be recognized by the government. Their history has been stolen and numerous attempts have been made to completely erase their presence. Both of these rules were placed for very specific and heinous reasons. They impact our society to this day.
Edit: typo
Thiiiis, my aunt was indigenous, so my phenotypes resemble one. Its what most people call me, saying that I am black its forgetting my native american ancestry.
I once heard someone say that the oppression of Black people in America is tied to making us as hypervisible as possible, while the oppression of Indigenous people is tied to making them as invisible as possible, and I think that definitely comes into play here.
some of the most heartbreaking research ive done into my lineage is the melungeon history for this reason :/ (disclaimer: info on us is hard to find and i would recommend only trusting african sources bc thats where we were first historically recorded)
@@kaylyn3996 you definitely nailed it. That is what I was getting at but you said that in a much more concise way than I could manage.
the US government forcing native american people to "prove" their ancestry is a genocide in its own right, they try to conflate being indigenous with blood quantum when indigenous people say over and over again that it's not a race etc. it's a culture that is passed down. but even if that culture is passed down to you, the government won't recognize it if you can't "prove" it for them personally, which ends up erasing more and more indigenous people and their cultures.
I feel like as a biracial mixed race person our identity is always up for debate and discussion and it’s exhausting. It feels like my existence is just a talking point in a pointless echo chamber
Lol because full black obsess over us!
@@coltrached4601 as a white person, I can confirm that you mixed people obsess over us waaay more than black people obsess over you
Because biracials should have never been forced to identify as black in the first place , their was a time that biracials were considered their own separate race but to keep wealth out the black community the whites created the one drop rule and made them identify as black
@@coltrached4601 no ,because alot of full blacks have self hate , they consider the less black you are the better you are , that's why they glorify white phenotypes, like different color eyes or looser hair texture or slim nose or lighter skin complexions , but they don't want to admit it
This is how I have felt all of my life
My maternal grandmother is zulu, my maternal grandad is indian. I have khoisan roots from my paternal side as well as pashtun. So proudly coloured🇿🇦 the rainbow nation lives within us.
This comment is an example of how instead of saying “I don’t know where to fit in” you could be yourself, and that’s how there are very proud coloured/mixed communities within Africa. A lot of people’s issues with being biracial is claiming it’s not a race but as you’ve shown, it can be if you want it to be. If you’re not afraid to make it so.
i'm biracial and in summer 2020 during the peak of the BLM movement my white therapist asked me if i felt "torn". i just stared at her like what the hell 😭
yo that's wild. I hope you found a more educated and supportive therapist
You just reminded me of the time I was getting ready for a solo at church and the organist told me that I was sounding half white and half black and I just had to laugh. Still don't know what he was trying to say. White people man.
I'm so sorry that's horrible but "do you feel torn?" is hilarious 😭😭😭😭
that is fucking crazy wtf
Torn is crazy cuz why would yt ppl feel torn this ain't a race war its a fight against a one-sided oppression
As a mixed person it really disturbs me how people will strip you of your own culture if you aren't completely of that ethnicity/race or don't "look like it" enough. It gets especially weird when concerning hispanic people. We aren't a whole race, yet people expect us to all look the same. Hispanics can be Native, white, black, asian, yet many chalk "real" Hispanics up to looking a certain way. Doesn't that sound kind dangerously eugenics-y?
This bothers me too, southerners are whiter, that doesn’t mean we aren’t south american or that we don’t speak spanish just because of being yt
No. It doesn’t sound like eugenics in the slightest.
If you don't a black mother and black father your not black. That's just a fact.
The word you're looking for is ethnostate. There's this idea that nation states should contain within own borders only one ethnic group which is very easily translated into one race
It's usually an internal issue. In an x country you will find nationalists rejecting immigrants (even white immigrants) and subjugating ethnic minorities (again, whiteness won't always save you). Sometimes it's projected from the outside. Like Americans being surprised that there're black Irish people. Or that there're French minorities in Germany
Or maybe it's just bigotry. There're so many form of it
I'm mixed with black n Mexican, my mom worked really hard to raise us with a fusion of both cultures so we identify as mixed. My sister gets told all the time she not black because of her light skin an Hispanic looks, I get told I have self hate because I don't identify only as black. All this mind you is being told to us by black people. In my personal experience, it appears the black community picks n chooses when to acknowledge its mixed populous.
As a mixed person myself (black mom, white dad) "damned if you do, damned if you don't" is exactly how it feels trying to be my authentic self or interact with white/black people on a daily basis. I'm also lighter skinned so I feel guilty about the social privilege a have in some instances based on something I cannot control. It used to bother me a lot but I've learned to except how I look, my completion and my hair texture and just go about my day now and if people want to be rude to me for whatever reason, that says more about them than it does about me.
Well it depends. If you get advantages over another simply because you look 'less black' then another, how can you even stomach that person after that?
@@miamitten1123its that part for me. They dont get that this is usually why we lean to the black or minority side. Cuz the other side too often expects us to excuse their racism. Its not self hate. Its actually the opposite. I dont have an issue with white people. I have an issue with RACIST people. Not the same thing.
You can't pick between the 2. Your both
@@alizehustle9385: Usually, the world will especially if they're phenotypically Blk.
Here's the biracial tears ladies and gentleman
This is why we need more dark skin pop superstars in the scene… THEY only promote the light skinned or “ones who look black but ain’t” to us and THEY know we will support them since they are “one of us” so the cycle continues, there’s thousands of white/non dark skin pop stars yet all we have are normani, coco jones in the market rn so let’s please please support our dark skin queens extra hard
Karen White? Whitney Houston? Stephanie Mills? There are more brown beautiful singers than that I just don't feel like naming all of them, but theres plenty of darker skin black singers.
@@Cateyes767 I’m talking about right now not ones in their grave… rip whitney houston 🙂
Megan Thee Stallion? Kelly Rowland? Are they light skinned? Self-esteem is just that its what you think of yourself. You need to validate yourself and F everybody else.
@@carolperdue7534 is Kelly rowland making top hit music right now… Megan is a rapper… are yall just dumb or dumberrrrrr…? Like stop tryna clock somebody and READ you mad at the wrong person boo
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Hey Khadija! South African coloured person here, the definition you found is the simplified one often given by western sources, which is okay but lacks context.
Coloured South Africans have "mixed" genetic heritage, but due to hundreds of years of colonialism and 46 years of apartheid, we have a unique culture, cuisine, languages and dialects. Not every mixed person is coloured in South Africa, and very few coloured people are "mixed" because both their parents and all of their grandparents and even great grandparents are from the same ethnic group (coloured).
We have the most genetic diversity of any single ethnic group on the planet and come in all shades from very dark skinned to very light skinned, and hair textures just as diverse, but fundamentally we are one culture with lots of influences, rather than just a collection of mixed race people.
Even calling Tyla "mixed" is a little weird to me, because her parents and grandparents are all from the same race, we just have a lot of diversity in that race.
Last example, Trevor Noah, in South Africa, Trevor would not be considered coloured, even though he is mixed, because he doesn't have a coloured parent. He is mixed, and he can identify however he chooses, I believe he identifies as black, which would be accepted by most South Africans.
Also, fun fact we also have a large influence from Indonesian culture, so we have heritage from Europe, Africa, Southeast Asia and India, so you KNOW our food is delicious 😂😂
It's also important to know that many (if not most, in my experience) coloured people identify with the political Blackness, whether is the struggle for black liberation, pan-africanism, economic empowerment, etc. We recognise that we're are Africans and are affected by anti-blackness, but in South Africa we don't think that recognising our cultural differences prevents solidarity.
This is so interesting! Thank you for sharing
this is interesting! it reminds me of creole people of louisiana which is my dad's side
It's also important to note that the reason Trevor identified as black was because the Apartheid regime didn't recognize mixed race children and he had to "pass as black" so he could not be taken away from his parents. Most mixed race children born post Apartheid identity as mixed race
South African girl here, immigrated to Canada 8 months ago now and have been incredibly frustrated by this misunderstanding. Coloured is a completely different race, it isn't black, nor white and it isn't even characterised by a specific makeup of ethnicities. The exact breakdown of the identity is so complex, and has been shaped by hundreds of years of positives and negatives, such as oppression, isolation, community building, generational trauma, finding of identity ect. We even have our own language created from a Creole of Dutch and South African, indigenous languages, it is unique to our country and our country alone. It's just so interesting to see confirmation that, like I've always thought, many Black North Americans who view Africa as the motherland and idolise our culture from an orientalist perspective, have no understanding of what Africa is truly like, bad and good. Just because you are a minority group, doesn't mean that you too still don't have biases to unpack.
Knocked this comment out of the park! 🤌🏾🔥
We need a term like orientalist but for Africa
As a South African too I approve of this!!
I think the confusion is in North America colored is an offensive slur. So if an artists performs in a place where your ethnicity …or the word used is a homonym for that slur it is a slippery slope. I believe that it’s only a slur in North America. When on the international internet, Americans should recognize that colored and coloured aren’t the same and coloured is an ethnicity….specifically in Southern Africa. If people only informed themselves and listened to other people’s perspectives and cultural experiences and not project ….we would all be better off. Your comment is so informative and nuanced and it must be terribly frustrating.
@@smarti1144It used to be a slur here too ,we just took the power of the word by embracing it , like the black Americans did with "Nigga/Negro" , the problem is western countries want to be the centre of blackness,they live in the northern hemisphere afterall
I'm black & Mexican (American) and I never felt confused or torn between either one. I've had many instances where people tried to make me feel like like less than one of the other; telling me that unless my mother was black, I'm not black - if I wear my hair in braids, I'm not Mexican... I never really paid it any mind. This is just my experience & reaction. I know a lot of people who are torn and confused & I really think it stems from letting other people (not yt ppl) tell you who or what you are.
If ya mama ain’t black you ain’t either lol
Yeah do you, ❤
I’m Black and Korean raised by my single Black father and I don’t know my mother or any of the Korean side. He told me that I was Black and to never forget it. I live my life as a Black man-as I was raised to be. I feel the distrust of mixed people by the Black community is disheartening for young people. We mixed people get all the negatives of being Black (systemic racism) but it gets discounted by our community bc of our perceived ability to of a sudden not be Black. I’m grown enough to know who I am and don’t need validation; but the young me definitely felt left out in the cold when I was gatekept. These young mixed people need guidance and protection from us not alienation.
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One of the things about the discussion about the "One Drop Rule" is that it was a system created by white people to maintain whiteness and to keep Black people out of whiteness. It also wasn't created for simply biracial or people with 1/4th Black ancestry. It was for people with 1/8th to 1/16th Black ancestry. Not to mention white people felt threatened by mixed raced Black people for both moral reasons and also the fact that you can't maintain white supremacy if you are clearly showing that mixing races has no negative impact on generations. In that context you would then have these biracial people growing up in Black spaces and being seen as Black unless they chose to leave and pass because that was the only community they had. Things have moved so quickly, that I think it is easy to forget that legal interracial marriage is relatively new and that we are now dealing with the aftermath how how white supremacy has always used colorism to its own advantage. I think Rachel Dolazal did so much damage to the broader idea of Black community because Black History is filled with Black folks who were light and were 10 toes down for the culture and it is just beyond fucked to appropriate the phenotypes that came out of rape and sexual violence to grift.
What it means to be Black has always varied because most of those definitions were defied by oppressors. IMO what matters now is actively pushing back against colorism and ensuring that we are attacking anti Blackness at the root. Showing up for Black people and dismantling systems of oppression needs to be a new kind of baseline.
Anyway, sorry for rambling in your comments lol
You rambling is always appreciated
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That last part! We need to center those affected by colorism and and anti-blackness, and build a community that is politically engaged and caring for each other.
Well Said. 👏🏾
Thank you so much! Too many people be making up their own history around how the one drop rule came about
We also need to have a conversation about black folks that are just light-skinned but are not mixed. Like my sister is dark skin, and her boyfriend is caramel complexion, and their son is literally light skinned. Families are both black
We need to talk about the people that are mixrace or biracial that are black. Because not all of us are light skin either
@@ms.shinerayso you mean people that are mixed race that are dark-skinned or brown skin?
Real spill. Most ppl think I'm half white but I'm not just high yella lol and I don't have the wavy silky hair... 9 ether afro nd all plus I know half white ppl that range from red to dark brown skinned. Genetics just be geneticin
@@SirDave yes, some people think only light skinned people are mixed but come in all shades too
@@DiamondD-zc1egyeah, I have 2 brothers that are light skinned, but both of their parents are black, one being my dad whose caramel complexion, the other being their mom, now deceased , who's caramel complexion. They're both black, though it's possible that the mom might have a little bit of mix if Indian.
I'm forty-nine years old. Mexican mother and black father. Growing up in cincinnati ohio. I had never felt like I was Mexican nor black. I've always just felt like I was a mixed person. Because that's how I was treated. Even though people constantly told me you're black. I got bullied in school. I have never been able to have a black female friend. You get it treated differently when you're biracial. People think they can say anything to you.
They think you're weak until they find out you're not
I'm pretty sure there were tons of nice non stereotypical black women you could've befriended
@libfuzzy4629 How can you be sure of that? I'm mixed, and from 6-12th grade, I had one black female friend who accepted me. I was friendly, but they were either not interested or catty. I was friends with mostly foreign students or students who were 1st generation born in the USA. White girls usually weren't interested in being friends with me either. As an adult I have awesome adult black women friends though 😊
@@CiaoColeG I can see that , im Haitian american I don't fit in with most blacks but haven't had issues with running into black women who also aren't stereotypical. I've never discriminated against mixed race women. For me forming friendships has more to do with shared values and Interest
well of course you were treated differently, you ARE different. you're not fully Mexican or black, otherwise you would have to pick one side. why didn't you just befriend other mixed people?
and let's add the societal context of half-black, biracial women being a preferred standard of black beauty/feminity/womanhood over mono-racial black women, the perpetuation of that standard in skin preferences, hair preferences, eye-colour preferences proliferated throughout media and how that deeply affects the self-esteem of young, black girls. and could contribute to our/their aversion towards you as children. outside of the basic human tendancy to gravitate towards and form communities around people who are similar to you and reject people who aren't, especially as children.
but hopefully as we enter a less racially segregated world, children will be less likely to discriminate against each other based on race.
MEXICAN is not a race!
My son is 4 and he knows already he mixed 😂 kids are smart. It’s funny I take him to the park and he goes straight to the mixed kids and plays with em. Every time 😭 He gonna grow up and know he came from the best of both worlds. Haitian 🇭🇹and Mexican 🇲🇽🩷 And he will acknowledge BOTH SIDES. Period 💁🏾♀️
We all knew it. Your kid ain't special. We just stop saying it when we realize the rest of the world doesn't see it that way and that white folks seem to think that claiming mixed means you don't support black people or black issues. I was actually very proud of being mixed as a child. Y'all swear we're all self hating and confused and we're not. You are what you look like in this country. Youll see. Unless your kid actually looks Mexican and can speak Spanish they're gonna call him black regardless of what he calls himself and eventually you get tired of arguing over semantics. It probably won't even matter that he can speak Spanish. If he's dark and got nappy hair they're gonna call him black. I know from personal experience that Hispanic people are colorist AF too.
Using mexican and the best in the same sentence is wild 😂
PERIOD, as he should
Period as he should. He won't have identity issues. He loves who he is as a whole.
So, he avoids the white, black, and Mexican kids? That does not sound very open to other racial groups.
Hey Khadija! Australian here, indigenous Australians have the one drop rule as well, but as an inclusive “you are part of our community”. They like to say “it doesn’t matter how much milk is in your tea, it’s still tea”.
This is especially important since we have the stolen generation, where the government ripped indigenous children away from their families and culture to try and integrate them into white culture, it only ended during the 1970s so there are a lot of light skinned indigenous folk nowadays reconnecting with their culture after decades of generational trauma.
I love to hear that. I've seen conversations from indigenous people talking about how it doesn't matter what your percentage is, if you're indigenous you should get to learn about your history. While it is important to acknowledge that being mixed CAN give you a more privileged life, as some who was never hispanic enough I love to see this type of inclusion in the conversation.
Hence the future erasure of their culture
Yeah, as a white Aussie that's what confused me about the "biracial isn't black" thing in America. Cos from what I've seen, it's the opposite with Indigenous people here, but it seemed to be like you said, about including people, especially when the govt. had tried to erase their identity & culture. It's particularly relevant here in Tasmania, of course- if "biracial isn't Indigenous", then nobody here is Indigenous, & that's exactly why it was the official history.
I came to say this! It's almost flipped in terms of the origin. US- trying to keep Black people out of white society. Aus- attempted genocide by breeding blakness out.
Connection to mob, culture and land is more important to Aboriginality than the colour of someone's skin.
Yes! I was just gonna come here to say this so boost
to me, the conversation surrounding this seems to moreso be online. IRL i've never had someone try to tell me i'm not black because i clearly look like it and there's no point denying that. but online, i've had more than one person call me WHITE solely because i'm mixed 💀
Out of curiousity, what circles or people are you surrounded by? I have seen and heard from my light skin friends who experience their idenity being challenged IRL, to why I'm asking.
I take it you’re American? Where I’m from biracial people are never referred to as black. They’ll even correct you if you do refer to them as black. It’s only Americans in my experience who lump black and biracial people in the same group.
Literally this! I also realize that a lot of white people call me white but black folks recognize im mixed with black? Its a lot. Sorry you had to go through that.
@@Muffinga Why do y’all insist on this “America bad” narrative. African Americans paved the way for people of color around the globe to access equal rights. Do you really think black Americans invented the one drop rule?? Do you think we want to be put in a box and denigrated for literal genetics?? Educate yourself bro
Do you have an issue identifying as mixed race? If people are questioning you, then you likely look mixed. What’s wrong with that? Serious question..
Let me tell you… This video right here… 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Man, it was like you were literally in my head a second before I opened my RUclips channel. As a biracial human (Puerto Rican and Caribbean, and deepened my knowledge of my blood with research and dna to conclude Spanish and Nigerian) I have so many words in my head to respond, but I have to marinate on how to place them…. All I can immediately say is THANK YOU! Thank you for the breakdown and for expressing your own feelings so bravely. I have so much respect for this extremely hard topic that you courageously touched on. Hopefully, I will be able to gather my words as gracefully as you just did. Either way, I so appreciate this video 💙
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Im so tickled that RUclips has been recommending so many CANADIAN content creators lately. ❤ 🇨🇦 Torono girl here! 💋 Subbed immediately
Biracial isn't black, and that's ok 🤷🏾♀️
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Gatekeeping people’s race is something white people do to divide and conquer if you’re falling for their tricks you need to step your game up
As an indigenous person (Diné [navajo]), I am fully done with this blood quantum nonsense. Back in the day, if you weren't white, the majority would've certainly found a label for you, regardless of how much "other" you were. Now, we're doing it to each other. And that's just it; this is a white man's game to keep us divided. Look around, who does all this serve? It isn't us, I can tell you that much.
A movement of Empathy, Understanding & Community is the only revolution that'll succeed.
Exactly. In the states, if you ain’t white monoracial, and you’re half anything and not white presenting, you’re of color. Even Logic had to deal w being called the n word growing up by racist kids. These chronically online, anti Black “black” women just resent these light skinned and mixed BW for being beneficiaries of colorism, and so they lash out at these women for a system they didn’t create by being delulu and telling them that their lived experience ain’t a Black one despite their experience and phenotype, lol.
Notice how it’s only toward the women too. Never have I seen the “she not Blk she biracial” pea-brained nonsense abt Malcom X’s mixed behind, Prince, Frederick Douglass, J Cole, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, Colin Kaepernick, Drake etc, ONLY the women, apart from Rihanna and Beyoncé of course who are both mixed; these yt supremacist “Black” women don’t attempt to say they ain’t blk bc to Blk America, B and Rih are loved and respected and came out during a time in which this nonsense wasn’t being spewed due to the absence of social media.
Rihanna has a biracial father, a yt grandparent and Beyoncé is creole i.e mixed, and yet they’re Black. lol. “Black” women aka descendants of chattel slavery who posture themselves as “superior Blks” like to pick and choose who Blk and who not depending on who makes them feel threatened re their positions in society esp as far as desirability goes. What’s crazy to me is that Blk women like this knowingly perpetuate divide and conquer tactics taught by yt supremacists and they do so proudly if it means it’ll make themselves feel “less erased,” as if they’re actually being erased off the side of the earth. As if the light skins and biracial blackies just came into existence yesterday.
Wow. Just as I said it to my South American mother, "it's not serving anyone but the white man", I read your words here.
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You are speaking 100% truth, but it doesn't matter. The vast majority of mixed, indigenous, Asians and some black people will be submissive to whites until the end of time.
Well said!
I really appreciate how your videos are always thought-provoking.
just started watching your content today and i love how chill the environment it! also your input as a black person in both America and Canada is super interesting (I'm living in the USA!).
I also think you have a very calming voice and the way you talk and describe things is very easy to digest!
I'm a South African coloured girly. This conversation is particularly difficult to have because of the fact that we've had our heritage stripped from us. Many people like me, do not know exactly what it is they're mixed with. In some cases - if not most, they'll never know without a DNA ancestry test which costs way too much for the many of us living below the poverty line. We're much more than our racial or ethnic identity - we've built a community and culture as a collective despite our ethnic differences.
I hope we can all do that in the future.
Culture doesn't define race girly...
@a.sydney5036 I didn't say it did.
read the comment slowly .THEN respond@@a.sydney5036
ALL HUMANS ARE BLACK. see science.
white people are black people Asians are black people, Africans are black people, Australians are black people.
-----------------------> that is the error; we the globe told white people from day 1. race do not exist. Like how to do think the Polynesians do it? they come with random hair texture and skintones.
-----------------------> DNA ancestry test do nothing: other than tell you the last place your ancestor stop walking and settled.
Dutch + Britannia were all BLACK KINGDOMS. 🤴🏾 🤴🏿 👸🏽 👸🏾 __
that is why all language are BLACK. see history
ALL HISTORY IS BLACK even after the DNA ancetry test; your ancestor history is going to lead you to a black man and black woman. it end that way 1000% of the time.
Queen Victoria grandmother is black so is her granddad. *it doesnt matter how white you are) - ask the Irish: solid pale skin, solid black history.
ALL HISTORY IS BLACK
@@a.sydney5036 Weird
Babe, wake up! Khadija's making us think and question ourselves again!
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eyes wide OPEN shawty
First timer here ✋🏽 and I was delightfully surprised and elated at the thoughtfulness of this content. I can absolutely relate having grown up in the US with Caribbean parents and roots in Canada. On top of being culturally mixed I am ethnically as well. While this subject matter is quite a lot to unpack, I belive you did this topic justice. Very nicely done! I'll definitely do my homework and think before I comment further, but you have found a new subscriber. Happy to be here.❤
Wow this video was so validating. As a sometimes white passing or even Latina passing or “white enough” passing biracial woman, I made a video on this exact topic and it was the root of a lot of anxiety for me. I took it down for a few months and then decided to put it back up because it’s my truth. No one wants to hear about the biracial experience because of the perceived privilege that we have. Can say more but I need to keep it short. But I loved this video and you’ve gained a new subscriber. Biracial people deserve a voice of their own that isn’t dictated by either side and based in American slavery. Our unique experiences are valid and they matter.
Perfectly said ❤
You should put it back up or make follow ups. You have rite in this world to have story heard. Who knows how many more people like you are out there needed to hear and some one who feel the same. Some problems are not meant to solved, We have to go through it. We all just visitors having an experience. Put it backup please.
If thats you in the pic then youre white.
The one drop rule needs to be let go by the black community...
it aint the flex they think it is! and its mainly propped up by BM that have babies with WW
@@submissiveproviderstboth9485 say that!
It’s not even black people, it’s just north Americans. If you are black, you are black. If you’re mixed, you are mixed. That’s how people are classified in African countries and most parts of the world.
@@submissiveproviderstboth9485 that part
LMAOOOOOO 🤦🏽♂️
I'm biracial and have my own problems with how the world treats biracial people/mixed families. I grew up in a time where you could only pick one race on a standardized test; there was no other, mixed or more. So, I have my own opinions and lived experiences. What you said at the end about claiming your identity, or rejecting it, being a double-edge sword is very true. You feel like you're betraying yourself no matter where you stand and everyone makes you feel like you have to pick a side. BLM and not only because it's half of what makes me. It's just the undeniable truth. I remember this stupid moment where I heard Haitians were upset with tennis player Naomi Osaka for not claiming Haiti louder and prouder. I'm Haitian, and it was ridiculous. I get wanting to be recognized in a positive light (since we never are) by media, but where was everyone before her name was on TV? She is not responsible for all of us, and we are not responsible for her success. SHE worked hard. In being biracial it always feels like people claim you the most when it is beneficial to them, and reject you when you don't align with their vision.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm curious as to why you had to pick your race on a standardised test, was that a survey or like an actual school test?
@@kseniav586That is/was how it is done in the US for like ITBS and SAT. Its for demographic studies
@@kseniav586 standardized tests( state, SAT, etc) did not have an other option. Required for demographics reasons? For state tests it's to track different groups education but for the SAT/PSAT it's for ???? I dunno , college board is a weird monopoly.
@@kseniav586In my state, "mixed," or "multi-racial" is not on most forms, including for Driver's Licenses or other state IDs. In school, I was always told to just put whatever my father's racial identity was on everything. He's black, so I list myself as black on all my state IDs, though I'm very light-skinned and have had folks argue with me that I'm not black at all (until I whip out a picture of my father, because I look a lot like him). It's very weird, but we're kind of forced to pick a camp by society, though that's changing a bit.
@@kseniav586 they ask you in almost any form you fill out, even as an adult lmao. I remember having to check a box at least 100 times before turning 18
Such a great video- thank you for this! 🖤🙌
I’m fair skinned and was raised by my white (Jewish) mother. My father’s family is black.
I found your contribution to the discourse on the “1 drop rule” and colourism in modern day society really interesting.
Here in the UK, most people traditionally tended to refer to themselves as mixed race or biracial unless both parents were Black.
This is still somewhat the case, however it seems to have shifted a lot with the younger generations (especially with social media giving rise to American cultural influence).
Also, thank you for acknowledging the persecution that Jewish and Irish people faced. 🥹
You made such intelligent and pertinent points; I’m a new subscriber!
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my mom is light skinned and i think gen z would call her "white passing" which bothers me bc it just isnt true. she has black features with.. light skin... she lived the black experience and was called the n word multiple times growing up. i just think people take a word and run with it, without knowing that it even means.
I think we need to understand context more than anything. The same ideologies (racism, white supremacy, tribalism, colonialism) affected multiple geographies and manifested in similar ways. But they weren't exactly the same. People who are considered "black" in the US might not be seen as black in South Africa for example, because of the pasts that those countries have.
Tyla faced backlash for identifying as "coloured," a people group that exists in South Africa, rather than calling herself a POC or mixed. For people who aren't familiar with the South African context they wouldn't know that coloured communities have their own culture and heritage that is different to the other people groups in South Africa, but a lot of them were quick to pass judgement because of how that word might be interpreted in their milieu.
I only learned about that this week. Reviewing a Clive Cussler book that largely takes place in South Africa for.... *REASONS* ... and wondered why they referred to Black and Colored people differently. I guess this book was good for something!
this context matters SO much, we need to remember that not everyone has the same exact history as black americans with words
So coloreds is as nonsense a term as Latino is what I'm getting here.
Let's extend compassion to one another. Honestly, we're all going through it in our own ways...
How can anyone not know what "coloured" means?
I'm so glad you mentioned that the one drop rule doesn't exist everywhere. It annoys me when people online will attack people for not buying into it. In the UK the one drop rule doesn't really exist. Biracial people are biracial and are less often considered black or white. There are some people who identify that way but it's more rare. People are allowed to be mixed and have unique experiences and challenges
Yea in my country.....kenya and alot of predominantly black countries if your mixed they'll just say your white
That’s so refreshing to hear. It’s like ppl in America want to be victimized so bad instead of identifying with what they are-which is biracial! Biracial is literally its own category that comes with its own experiences, issues, etc. it’s so exhausting.
I'm mixed race, live in the UK and have always been similtaneously considered black. I dont know a single mixed race British person who doesn't also consider themselves black tbh. I dont recognise your description of the UK.
@@dillilyeverage315 literally same
@@dillilyeverage315 I’m a British white person and I call my aunts and uncles who are mixed race black.
Thank you for making this vid. My daughter really opened up to me after we watched this.
I find your perspective really refreshing. Thanks for this video!
I'm a Black South African (Zulu and Sotho for more clarification).
I can't belive this is even a discussion they way We categories race in South Africa is different from the US and Canada.
Because Unlike The US and Canada black people Africans are the majority not the minority and as a result despite having a similar history of racial oppression and Segregation amongst people of colour in our country its impact will manifestate in a different way.
The fact that many people is first reaction is to get offended instead of understanding our cultural context is so annoying to me.
Don't jump to assumptions especially about cultures that aren't your own.
Im not south African but i am a mixed person from a Brazilian family & race is similier here too(with biracial people being refered to as either mulatto or mestizo), only its often catragrised on skintone due to many Brazilians being mixed race
I was often called white by my mom due to me being lightskinned even tho im not white i would even be bullied in school due to havin Black features like my nose and hair
Thank you for this clarification bhuti I am Bhaca and I live in Cape Town
It frustrates me when Americans think their ideology is law and if anyone that's "mixed race" should automatically identify as Black becuase that's the American way of identification
I just wish they would let Africa do and run our countries the way we see fit
Man I'm a zulu from Qwa qwa I understand your point
As a fellow African (Zambian)....I agree with your statement
@@BhayekaTshaziAgree! they cant even comprehend that each country, region and cities have their own clans and tribes but want to lecture us on how we should be classifying ourselves🫠
I think it’s interesting how we (the black community) love saying “nobody wants to be black until it’s time to be black” and then when someone who is lighter, yet mixed with actual black heritage shows up as black, we are upset. we also say “black people come in multiple hues, sizes, curl patterns, etc” but love using that against mixed people! and at the end of the day when someone who is mixed and presents more like yara shahidi does something, they get to be black. it’s like someone doesn’t get to be black until the community as a collective deems it appropriate vs their actual lineage determining it
Im light skin and black. People often mistake me for mixed race, I feel offended because I grew up in a black home. It’s a completely different life and experience. If we’re talking white and black mixed. The privilege of having a white parent in the home is HUGE, it’s also a completely different way of being raised and what opportunities will be afforded to your family. It’s more complex to me then the “one drop rule” I can’t stand when I’m mistaken for a mixed person, I feel it invalidates my experience as black woman.
@@psychomaia I don't know you but more then likely you ethnicity mixed just not directly. I'm chocolate as hell I have 13+ ethnicities,I don't have the mixed aesthetic. Most black Americans are mixed at the end of the the day our phenotype is black. Because a person came out with 3c hair and a lighter skin tone don't excuse thier blackness they use that to denie it.
the term is "everybody wants to be black until its time to be black"
meaning, they like they music, food, culture etc... but as soon as the struggles of black ppl comes up then its "oh, im biracial, or whatever".
Ohhhhhhhh chiiiileeeeeee you said a whole word. Im not light by any means so blk ppl get REALLY aggressive and annoyed with me and say i look blk as an insult (which i literally dont. Im no where near unambiguous but you know how thr blk community literally lies and also they center wyte people alot. So mixed to them is ALWAYS part wyte and proximity to wytness…which is so racist and problematic on so many levels). What i find crazy is how the community literally thinks its their obligation to tell people who they are and are not. One minute its we all mixed, next minute when it comes to male validation…we become mutts. We behave in a way that isnt deemed acceptable…we become mutts. Ppl will compare admixture due to slavery, to a legit multiracial person. Its all very telling. And the beauty of me being VISIBLY blk adjacent presenting mixed person…it really showed me how much blk people hate themselves. I wish i could show you the sick wyte supremacist crap blk people spew at me because they are salty i look so close to them. The way the obsess over puerto ricans and dominicans (THE MIXED ONES BEFORE SOMEONE TRIES TO GASLIGHT ME AND PLAY IN MY FACE) is weird af. I only ever grew up around my korean and my Jamaican family. I know VERY well im mixed. Meanwhile IN REAL LIFE ill have blk people becoming aggressive and “correcting” me telling me im JUST blk. Like no. Im blasian. You cant fully relate to me and vice versa. I am strongly against mixed people identifying as one thing. Reality is, its racist, erasure, and it can give you a complex. I hate how america is so weird to mixed ppl. And what annoys me with blk ppl “we are all 35% mixed” no. Thats a lie. If this was true american “blk” would look very similar to PR/DR/Nola Creoles. And they just dont. Even if on the darker spectrum they would look Trini or Malagasy. But they dont. I realized blk people continue to uphold wyte supremacy and center wyte people which is the ONLY reason they think when someone identifies as mixed that “you think you better/ur anti blk/u self hateful”. People literally call me self hateful for identifying as what i am. Like thats literally insanity. They arent mixed but will tell me what im going to experience. Wyte cops mark me “other” yet im such a “n word that would be swinging from a tree just like me” like, u cant make this crap up. Also if we are all mixed, then why complain about mixed women in masses erasing actual bw in media. Peep you dont see bw even embracing and uplifting unambigous BW. Nah they mainly support the girls like mariah the scientist. Yet in masses dont look like her. I love bw and it breaks my heart when little blk girls or bw precieve me as blk and then get sad about not looking like me. I had on a whole blasian pride shirt and a bw told her daughter to look up to me as hair goals. Im biracial with type 3b hair. Why tf would you tell your kid that. Then complain about texturism and all thr other ism. At some point we HAVE to be honest. If i was the standard look, then how come i was never treated that way? You said a whole word.
Always been a fan of your channel. So I'm culturally mixed in a similarish way: born in South African buy my parents are Congolese and Angolan respectively. And one side of my family is blackity black black and the other side is more mixed-black, so I get what you mean with identifying and relating with mixed folk in some ways. I think you broke it all down and put it together really beautifully! The bigger picture behind these reactions really is a sort of tribalism-colourism issue and it would be more helpful to see it as that, but as you said, people are attached to classifications which is fair I suppose, but we just need to be more human about these conversations and allow for complexity
As a mixed chick with over half a century dealing with this. Everyone hates us and noone wants us, until they want us. Depending on where you fall on the color wheel. While everyone tells you your experience. While also telling you why your experience isnt true😒
growing up, i used to envy light people, not light skinned, and wondered why they always had everything. Around age eight, i realized after seeing slave movies what happened to my ancestor. jumping ahead to high school, i hung around white people mostly and now that i am an adult looking back, i realized the trama and learned to love my own. WE have been taught white supremacy and it started in the schools. But now that i am older and wiser and woke up to our truth, we are Gods Choen people, the people of the book, those people in the bible are black, the bible is a history book not a religious book, it was stolen from us during slavery, as weird as it may seem, its the truth, King David is or was a black man. He authorized the bible to be translated. We have been bamboozled to believe that it is a white mans book. We believe it becuase they have dumbed us down, put us in a low estate to make us believe we are nothng and come from nothing. that is far from the truth. In these last days, people wishing to be white will change their tune real fast because the so called black, hispanics and natives are the children of Israel, Gods chosen, the people that he is sending christ to redeem, to save. i could go on but i digress. If your father is a so called African american, Hispanic and native of indigenous decent, you are an Israelite, I'm sure you would not want to be an edomite.
I completely relate 🫂
Boohoo. There are enough mixed people to do your own thing. Run along and sob to each other.
imagine what a fully blk girls and women go thru with
This is the best comment.
I'm biracial and so tired of people debating my existence like they have any say over it. Just trying to live my life as best as I can and have relationships with people but I have never been "black enough" or "white enough" to fit in literally anywhere in the lower 48 of USA. Ugh.
Agreed. I’m also mixed (white & black British) & I’ve never felt any internalised conflict. The call’s always been coming from outside the house. People are so desperate to project all the problems of society onto individuals who have absolutely no say on how we were born, it’s exhausting.
@@katlbird Good for you. But I think this video is specially about the gatekeeping of blackness and trying to stop people who share your background from identifying with blackness only when it's convenient.
@@freedomm I think there's potentially been a little bit of a misunderstanding. What I meant by "the call is coming from outside the house" is that the conflict that's imposed on a mixed race experience is, in my personal experience, external. Intrinsically, the experience is akin to being bilingual - second-nature if you're raised with both and not if you're not. Unfortunately, due to circumstance and where we are currently as a society, there is enough conflict around even the concept of mixed relationships/ the products of those relationships that it's rarely an "organic" consideration. The identity in itself is politicised. For example, being white/black mixed is interesting because you are almost always considered to be black by everyone but black people, but then black people get upset (rightly or wrongly so, it's not my place to make a value judgment) if you point out that's not the entirely of your heritage. It feels dismissive, I understand that, but so is expecting someone to reject the biological facts of their parentage just for the comfort of current social norms.
I actually think about this enough that I wrote an article (in a science fiction context) about racial hybrids and their reflection of the fraught approach to "race mixing" we still have globally for Blood Knife. I'm not trying to be dismissive of truly anyone's experience ever (and I'm genuinely sorry if that's what I achieved). But I also refuse to have my identity only be seen as political/ a subject of constant external judgment and debate. I also deserve to be just some guy. That's what we all deserve.
This is an essay, I apologise again!
You don't have to try to fit in on either side. You are mixed. Not full black or white.
Have you heard the song "I Am The Color" by Stan Walker? If not, you should give it a listen. He's a Beyonce fan, opened for her Australian tour and everything! I could go all day of the subject but the song does a better job.
As a South African who's grown up in Canada, I got told all the time that I'm not allowed to be "coloured" here. But I am, always have been.
Have to call myself light-skinned or biracial to make other people comfortable and it feels like an incredible betrayal to my family.
By Definition it is light skin , because coloured is black . As a coloured, I know people hate anything associated with blackness. The term comes from Oppressors to divide us.
So called coloureds only love the term because it comes with light skin privileges and social privileges. Coloureds don't know what African group they come from but if you Ask them what they mix with , they will list a detail description of their European background while they live in Africa.
Both in the U.S. and SA, it's based upon white purity standards
Please keep saying “coloured.” Don’t try to appease other people by betraying yourself.
@@Xxmilkshake202xX i hate the term colored. “People of color”, “colored” etc are just dumb
No one gets to tell you that. Especially if they don’t qualify by blood. Its always some non blasian trying to tell me about my identity. And idc what person is offended by this. I dont and will never respect a monoracial persons opinions about how we identify. They are not qualified to have an opinion. I always promote mixed people saying they are mixed. Doesnt matter how you look because at the end of the day it is very racist to replace and erase blk people with mixed ones. ITs insidious and wyte people wanted this. Blk ppl in western society wont learn until they all look like halsey. But at this point im convinced western blk people would love that. They get so triggered by my username. Its all very telling and it makes me wanna slap them up because 1: you do NOT have to be mixed to be beautiful. 2: it’s offensive to me because im part blk and obviously any talking bad about blkness is going to offend me 3: it truly breaks my heart that blk people dont love themselves and view us as better. 4: it leads to delusion and dishonesty which further puts a strain between mixed ppl and NON mixed blk ppl 5: its erasure 6: it centers wyte people and upholes wyte supremacy
“Well dawyte man gone think-“ as if i could EVER give af aboit them. The issue is blk ppl in western society are still shackled in their mind. And until they are honest and stop being delusional they will NEVER be able to properly heal. Which makes me very sad because blk is beautiful and you do NOT have to be mixed to be beautiful. High Admixtured blk people need to honestly just come to terms with being mixed. Heck, they are even treated differently by blk ppl…which proves to me people are being wilfully delusional
This video popped up on my page and now im a forever subscriber. Khadijah, thank you so much for shining light on this situation. i love your personality. you have a beautiful spirit. I am multiracial & was born, raised and currently live in Alabama. I grew up in white schools, danced at white studios, and when I hit high school i begged my mom to put me in a predominantly black school which i loved but i dealt with alot of colorism. i remember having to fight a girl cause she kept calling me white. i couldnt afford the new jordans so i usually wore converse and vans, got called white for that. crazy right? ive dealt with horrible racism and colorism first hand from both the white and black community in fact. I am creole, black, native american, and my dads grandfather is half asian. I am a complete mutt and have always felt so alienated because of it. my mom permed my hair till i was in the 7th grade, i never knew i had curly hair that was so pretty, and when my perm grew out, i went natural. i got bullied so terribly. i hated my hair so much cause it was short, so i begged my mom to get me braids and when i went back to school with them my black classmates told me i was approprating black culture cause im not black, and my white classmates and girls i danced with called me the most outrageous things… even my dance coach told me my braids were a distraction even though they werent long. i remember in middle school a girl pulled my hair and then shoved me into my locker cause she thought i had extensions. when i asked her why she had such a huge issue with me she told me that “you think youre better than us cause you have long hair and light skin” which was completely un true. sometimes in public, hispanics will speak to me in spanish cause they think im hispanic. then i tell them i only speak english and when i tell them im not they get suprised. ive even had people tell me i look blasian in nail salons (even though its such a small percentage). i never talked about my ethnicity and i hated that people saw me like the mixed girl who think shes all that, cause i for one never carried myself that way, i love everyone no matter the race or color, plus i was a quiet kid. i later tranferred to another school once again. i may be mixed, but white people see me as black, and black people see me as white. its always been hard for me to connect with either so i just started surroudning myself with people who are mixed like me who genueinly understand. its been a journey. Although ive dealt with crazy shit, i can never say ive had experiencied racism like a fully black person. Im not trying to take anything away from them. i just wish people were more understanding.
it's good you've found a community of other mixed race people who understand you
I watched all the way through woman. Loved what you said and your personality is great!
Super slick Sister Act look as well ❤
As a mixed person, i'm tired of this conversation. I think mixed people collectively we should stop trying to prove who we are. Like i know who i am, if you think i'm not black or mixed or something thats your problem not mine. It will not change my day or yours.Conversation around mixed identity especially with blackness requires nuance and caution. even myself i don't have all of the knowledge on that. Unfortunately nuance and caution are two things that we don't find that often on the internet.
that's where i'm at on it as well, but i still like hearing what the People are Saying lol. but yeah at this point i'm so comfortable in my racial identity no one is gonna make me feel some type of way about it. and on the other hand, i have never felt the need to argue with another mixed person about 'how' they identify. that ain't none of my business
i'm still waiting to find a mixed (black+white) person who just claims white though, idk it sounds Funny to me and i wanna see the reactions.... 💀💀⚰
@@mightymeatymech If a mixed person just claim whiteness, people will scream that they reject their blackness pr that they hate themselves so you cant never win in this conversation.
Felt! We have bigger fish to fry in our communities, other people are way too preoccupied /obsessed with how we identify when we ourselves have that low on our priority list. We are more than our % of melanin
You’re not black and you’re not in black culture if you’re mixed. Black children come from black men and black women and we are raised in the same household. Biracials are confused and need therapy. Black people have no real connection to biracials.
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as a mixed person the toxicity of picking a side is absolutely exhausting! why cant i be proud of all that i am without putting one race above the other? it’s like i was never enough of one or too much of the other, and it really messes with your self identity.
It's just absurd. It's like saying, pick a parent - you can only be your mother's child or your father's, but not both. Um, no. I'm literally both. Luckily, I haven't really had to face that nonsense outside of the internet, but if I did I'd just shrug. I don't care what people think.
@@luna-p Your Black side will disown you the moment you give us that "Blacks don't deserve reparations" "Slavery was a choice" "HBCU's are divisive" talk. Whites will disown you based on your lack of "Purity". Never has a White person identified a biracial person as [Half White]
I feel those that are mixed take the best of both worlds, being able to see from a new and different perspective, one with fresh eyes and new ideas on how to go about creating a more balanced society and loving community. It's definitely a difficult place to be in but just keep shining your light ❤️
Well the fundamental issue with a mixed persons self identity stems from their parents. Alot of interracial parents seem to have extremely superficial, corrupted reasoning for having kids together.
@@berickslime6718 these issues don’t stem from parents. the overall consensus of the issue is our society. people feel as if (especially in the black community) you have to pick being one or nothing or you’re seen as anti black. i shouldn’t have to only state that i’m black to validate others and not own or be proud of all that i am. this is where the division begins. everything and everyone is beautiful and the day we stop separating ourselves things will be better.
Loved your video! Definitely agree with everything and I appreciate how respectful you are of all of the nuance yet throwing shade when appropriate. Lol 😂 ❤
I just discovered your chanel and i love it!! Kisses from Switzerland
im sorry, but Black Americans are one day gonna have to wrestle with why they view a VERY lightskinned woman who has always walked around with a blonde weave as their proudest representation. I get it; Bey is black in the U.S. and west, but let's be real... people wouldn't be as possessive of the Queen if she... let's just it's doubtful that a 4c tight curled woman with all of Bey's talents would garner the same extreme... devotion.
👀 ain’t nobody ready for this tea, though
@@andiman44I once brought it up on twitter and they said I was just mad coz I'm ugly and poor 😂
Honestly, we probably already had a Dark Skinned tightly coiled-haired woman with all of Beyonce's talent come and go because White and Black America didn't want to see that kind of Black representation get that level of push. This is not take away from the extreme level of talent Beyonce has but she definitely benefits from having the complexion of the most mainstream acceptable version of Blackness.
Sadly the PROXIMITY TO WHITENESS card seems to always been the go to for these artists to be elevated to Superstars Level. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🙄🙄🧐🧐
@@Xara_K1 I really hate stans calling people poor to defend their faves. Like the working class isn’t the reason people know their fave even exists
As a white South African as far as I understand the term coloured is more complex than just being mixed, there are full coloured families where every person within them is mixed race. It doesn’t just refer to the physical outcome of mixing black and white for example. They also have a distinct culture than feels separate from the parts that comprise it’s whole.
And u r white and u believe u hve a valid opinion about this.
u r white
SA black woman here. You're right. Coloured in South Africa is more than just mixed race. It's actually been said that South African coloured people are some of the most mixed people there are cause there are multiple races mixed in and that goes on and on.
U r white that's your race u will never experience what fully blk girls and women go thru with
In America the word colored is considered a slur , because during the Civil rights movement in the 50's and 60's African Americans were call and refered to with derogatory names such as colored or negro
I'm Nigerian, Scottish and Irish. As a black passing mixed race person. The only thing that I hate about being mixed is people are mean,rude, unfriendly and unhelpful towards me when I wear afro textured hairstyles.
Keeping it real on this side of RUclips 💖 gotta love it
thank you for touching on coloured identity from SA! I'm coloured, but grew up in America and it has been a bit of a struggle to map coloured identity into US racial politics. the boxes here are so specific and square that it doesn't allow for the full representation of heritage and identity that we all have. As multi-racial identities increase, it's so important to have these convos, especially on the left as we do deeply needed solidarity work across ethnic and racial identities
Trevor Noah's book unpacks the identity of coloureds in South Africa ✨️
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I am "Morena" from Brazil, but Americans refuse to accept me for who I am. They think that their way of seeing race is the only way 🙄
@@sumimaindwell you can just stay in Brazil and not have to worry about it ….
@@SE-gs6gd wtf
I still remember the incident at work when my black patient was upset with a Hispanic patient because she kept using the “n” word. When I try to explain why she can’t use it she says, “ I’m more black than her I live in the hood!”….. and I was just flabbergasted…and was not mentally ready to give her a lecture but I knew there was so much wrong with that statement!
Lots of Dominican, Puerto Rican even Mexican folks in the places I've lived i.e. NYC and Dallas use the "n" word and it's kinda weird cause sometimes it bothers me and other times it doesn't but I'm Nigerian so I got a different perspective. But yeah I wonder what the current internet discourse is around Spanish folks using the n word. I feel like it would bother me most if I saw some fucking Wall St Puerto Rican dude using the N word vs some guy I'm playing soccer with in Plano TX.
@@PeterEhik it’s a weird discourse, people still haven’t come to accept Hispanic not being a race and there’s a lot of erasure of Afro Latinos and Afro Hispanics in regards to how people see the communities
Hi sonic people live saying the n word their their whole chest imo they only do it cause they feel better than black people and are desensitized from rap
@@NicoleReignit’s usually 10/10 not Afro Latinos that are saying the n word like water it’s the white/native Latinos 10/10. It’s disturbing because those types usually hate black people and it’s not their word to reclaim. You don’t hear black people calling themselves Latino slurs cuz it’s ridiculous, racist, and not our lane
@@PeterEhik well...Dominicans are usually a lot more African than most Mexicans so their racial demographics are not the same
Your channel has me in the tightest chokehold!😩🫶🏾❤️
Thank you for sharing your message on this topic.
If you’re mixed black/white (as I am) your acceptance (by white or black communities) isn’t necessarily dependant on your skin tone. You are rated and judged by other factors which are similarly out of your control - which environment you live in, how black and white communities feel about their own self-image. Regardless, however we bi-racial people choose to self-identify, you’re right, we can’t really win. We can’t win because we undermine what makes black and white people feel safe - a definite community that is exclusively theirs. I think I would just like it if the black community was a bit more careful when rating us -mixed folk- you can't tell what we’ve experienced by how we look. I am fair skinned but grew up as the only person of colour in any room I went into - there was no welcome in those rooms for me. Some of us take the piss, but some of us have been treated as black, with all of that abuse and suspicion. And we haven’t had a break from it by having a black community to commiserate with. Just be careful - it’s never accurate to judge people by how they look.
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not to mention the amount of racism that many bi racial people experience at the hands of their own family. that really messes with our identity and how we see ourselves.
YES! I have a similar experience of growing up fair-skinned and being one of the only people of color in most spaces I entered. I moved around a lot when I was little too, so it was hard enough keeping constant friendships or accessing cultures that weren’t available through my immediate family members - who are also mixed for the most part. It’s frustrating because the conversation feels like an excuse to just tell mixed people how to live our lives and feel bad about never being a part of communities that, at least in my experience, I never really had the chance to be a part of to begin with.
WELL SAID!!!!!!!
@@largeproblem Us Africans [Blacks] accept our mixed raced Black brothers/sisters 100% as long as you're psychologically Black. The moment you "Love is love" "Black people don't deserve reparations" "I would never attend a HBCU" is when we begin to disown you.
Coloured South African living abroad here! 🤚🏽 It’s sooo frustrating that Tyla’s ethnicity is even a debate because that’s what being Coloured is = it’s an ethnicity in South Africa that’s also treated as a whole other race/racial group in South Africa. Simple as that. I would maybe even argue that internationally, her ethnicity is Coloured and maybe her race would be black seeing as Coloured isn’t recognised as a race outside of South Africa. Race is complicated and then even more complicated when you’re a South African Coloured and live abroad where everyone else tries to define what you are 🙃People just need to understand that It’s generations of mixed people that got with other mixed people because of the apartheid where black people could only be with black people, these mixed people could only be with these other mixed people called Coloureds and white people only with white people. Coloured people are also descendants of the indigenous people of South Africa (Khoi-San). To say that because Tyla is now an international star she needs to change her ethnicity is insane, simply not possible and cultural erasure. Coloureds from South Africa generally speak Afrikaans but even then, it’s a version of Afrikaans that’s different from white South Africans and exclusive to Coloureds. we have traditional foods and traditions that’s exclusive to being Coloured…I really don’t know how else to explain that it’s an ethnicity with deep rooted culture that no matter where we are in the world… We share that culture 🥴 I’m sorry but Americans just have to sit down and educate themselves on this one because this is wild 🫠 As a coloured, it’s SO cool to have this representation on such a global scale when we are such a small population in the world that is only found in South Africa. Imagine seeing your race/ethnicity for the first time on this scale. Like thanks to Tyla, Coloured people around the world gradually won’t have to have this conversation every other day 😅
You are who your father is its in the bible.
In a global context, mulatto would probably be the best term to describe the race of ethnic coloured people. It has context in Brazil, Latin America, US and elsewhere.
No one cares, this is not South Africa!
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No one cares, the U.S. is not South Africa and the word is not accepted here. This is not the home of Tyla or African Culture!
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We don't use mulatto here. It's clear many of you are backwards therefore your countries still lag 100 years behind. That's your issue don't bring that ish to Black America. It's going to be rejected right along with you!
I learnt a lot and had to pause few times and Google stuff along the way. Thank you.
New subbie and great video! I understand both sides of the Twyla situation. Unfortunately, in the US, race is deeply, DEEPLY woven into the fabric of the country, so when people not from the country says things like “I don’t understand why race is always mentioned by black Americans” it’s bc it’s been programmed in us to sort, partially bc of segregation. White only, black only. The term coloured although spelled differently, on the ears it’s triggering for Black Americans bc of segregation and what we have learned in our school and in cinema which is also triggering. This is really just a difference of nature. The whole concept of South Africans adopting the idea of coloured being a way to race sort mixed people is very fascinating to me and definitely different. I appreciate the dialogue this has created!
The one drop rule is archaic
Awful that white people ever invented it.
I really like the term "racialized". I am racialized as Black by most people. I am a biracial black person. I have Biracial nieces and nephews who will not be racialized that way. It's super complicated, as always I appreciate your nuance.
It's interesting to see "biracial Black woman". I've never seen biracial white woman.
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i have seen lots of biracial whites asians African/black americans latin americans, there’s half asian half european women, half mexican half european that’s biracial.
@@rahbeeuh there’s plenty of biracial white women. jennifer beals, rashida jones, halsey, etc.
@@alexandervelez9507 no. I mean I don't hear people say they're a biracial white person. They might exist but I've never heard it said as much as I've heard or even read "biracial Black person" being used.
@@user-rl7mt4gh3o European and Mexican aren't races tho. Someone who's half those identifiers aren't examples of biracial. Multicultural or multiethnic may be a better identifier in those cases.
Such an interesting video! As always! 🎉🙏✨ thanks a lot!
I did watch all the way through! And thank you. You spoke to a lot of things that I've gone through in my life. I am an older (66) gay, mixed cis man. My grandmother was Black, and my father was light-skinned but identifiable as Black. I appear to be white. So, being young way back when I usually identified, and still do, as mixed. However, I've always been careful to be clear that I understand that I don't walk through the world having to experience what Black folks experience. I feel that all the way back to my teens I have shown up for the issues in all of the various ways. In recent years there has been a trend for some to identify as "white-passing" and I don't identify as such, as I am not doing anything purposefully to "pass" as many before me have (my father tried, it just didn't really work). Thank you for naming the frustration of damned if you do, damned if you don't. I've experienced elements of it all of my life. I really appreciated watching this!
South African girlie here 👋🏻
I'm just gonna give the most basic description here because there are a lot of my fellow South Africans in the comment section giving much better and thorough explanations, but in South Africa we see coloured people as their own race, ethnic identity and culture it's not simply mixed race as in two people from different countries get together and then there's an individual born from that. Coloured people are seen as their own identity. We wouldn't called them mixed because they aren't. That being said I'm really proud of Tyla for her success as a South African woman and also sparking the conversation of how the west views race and ethnicity compared to the rest of the world.
Baie dankie, mooi opgesom en ek gaan dit gebruik vorentoe
Thank you for this comment. I couldn't have said it any better! Because I couldn't understand why African Americans on X were hellbent on not understanding that "coloured" is both a race and an ethnic group in South Africa.
@@bawinilemtsweni5071 our education system is so bad, I didn’t understand Apartheid until I researched it as an adult! Our USA centered culture really robs us of understanding the world and keeping us in a strange bubble.
@@ND-nx1nt Dit is 'n plesier, my maat.
@@bawinilemtsweni5071 It's really puts into perspective how much American just doesn't care about any other countries history besides their own and how it's been poorly implemented into their education systems.
This has gotten me to really think about how I’ve been feeling as a white/japanese biracial person. My experience is definitely different than Khadijas and you’ve really gotten me to think on it!
All of my life I’m considered white to strangers, and without a doubt I’m sure my life was easier for it. But I’ve always felt off on it. My mother is amazing and I will argue that she spent all of her energy raising me, and I always felt hurt when people would never grasp that we’re related. As a kid I was either told I was adopted or if I was having a tantrum, mind you I was like 2-4, they even accused my mom of kidnapping me.
To keep it all brief, it’s an isolating feeling being biracial and never fully accepted. On the other hand I’d prefer that loneliness over having half of me ignored. So now I emphasize that I’m biracial whenever the topic comes up, paperwork, exc. while that makes me feel better than before, I still feel… unsatisfied?? I can’t find the right word, idk if there are any tips out there or maybe if I need some therapy
oh wow, the whole "my mom used to be accused of kidnapping me" is SO real. We used to travel a lot and it causes big issues. Funny thing is, we have the same features.
As a fellow hapa/hafu, I understand, though my mom is white and my dad is Japanese. I used to hate being mixed deeply. When we lived in Japan, we were not treated well. In the US, it was better, but we were still outsiders no matter my parents made to fit into a predominantly white society. Socially, I am treated like I am white. I acknowledge that I am "white passing" to most people and benefit from the privileges of that to a point (I am also Jewish, which has been an "interesting experience.") However, because my parents instilled a good sense of morality in both my sister and me, I tried to use my privilege to try to help marginalized people when I began learning more about white supremacy's hold in America by way of activism or financially helping orgs doing amazing work.
If anything, I am now fine with being an outsider, but it took a long time to get there. I feel like my life is incredibly rich because of it and made me less attached to maintaining my status in a group and more receptive to making space for the experiences of others. I hope one day you find some similar peace with your mixed (and rich) identity.
I'm also half white, half Asian (Taiwanese) and had a similar experience growing up in the US. Even just between me and my sister, the way people treated us was vastly different because my sister looks more white, and I look more Asian. yt people in my hometown bullied me and treated me so badly growing up, while she was accepted with no question. When I would go out to lunch with my dad, people would be rude to us and give us dirty looks because they thought I was his much younger wife 🤢
As an adult, I was able to travel to Asia and spend some time there, and to compare the difference between how I was treated there vs how I was treated at home is crazy. Over there, no one believed me when I told them I was American, and I was even slapped one time by a man who thought I was lying about not being able to speak the local language. I constantly had to explain why I looked Asian but didn't speak the language, and even though I was able to blend in whenever I wasn't speaking, I knew that anytime I had to say something, it would have to come with an explanation.
It hurts and is exhausting to never feel fully accepted anywhere. But on the other hand, I think we are privileged to get a very unique view of the world, and I think being the product of more than one culture gives us greater adaptability. At least, that's how it feels to me. I wouldn't change myself just to fit in, even if I could. The only thing I wish we had more of is community - when I speak to other hapas, I find that a lot of us have similar experiences, but no way to connect with each other. The only places I've been able to find for that have been online spaces that are colonized by self loathing incels, unfortunately
I feel for you. But one way to look at it is that "acceptance" is a trap. It's looking to bury yourself in the safety of the herd. That's a sure route to mediocrity, of worldview if nothing else. Dare to be exceptional, to not be as limited as the crowd. It's the dull and timid people who need to be assured of where you "fit" before they feel safe enough for the most basic encounter with another unique human being. Nothing of larger value comes from being like this, from people like this, only tribes and phobias and absurd conflicts.
I'm white/Indian, from the UK and usually white passing (I tan quite dark if I go on holiday to a hotter climate). Many times in my life I've been accused of lying about my heritage.
I was raised by my white mother, but my Indian family and culture was still a huge part of my life, so it always really upset me to have that part of my identity ignored. I was never seen as Asian enough by the other Asian kids at school.
Now both of my Indian grandparents have passed away and the rest of my family live so far away from me, I feel so detached from Indian culture. It makes me feel so isolated and lonely, and honestly like I've lost myself.
Omg I had this conversation with my boyfriend the other day. We're South African and we're really curious about why African Americans consider mix people black! So interesting!
Watched the full video 🤪 thank you for making learning and thinking fun and funny
The public discourse about mixed/biracial identity is so eaten up by conversations about individuals that pass as yt in contemporary post-Kardashian America that it’s exhausting to engage. There is an irony to the root of the problem being colorism, and only paying attention to and elevating the experiences of the lightest biracial/mixed people.
and even Kim K herself is part asian, but her black-fishing is what cause issues in the mixed community.
Black folks in the USA are quick to call mixed folks white and if you don’t want to acknowledge that, and want to blame some white Armenian chick, the problem will continue. I’ve heard too many black women hate on mixed women, never heard it the other way.
Love this video, thank you for making this it really makes me think ❤
Refreshing views. Thanks for sharing.
I'm so glad you mentioned Tyla. The facts you shared are true. Coloured is a race in South Africa 🇿🇦. But, according to the BEE Act (Black Economic Empowerment), the term black people is a generic term used to describe Africans, Coloureds, and Indians. This act was introduced to address the inequalities suffered by non white South Africans during apartheid. Those racial groups don't identify themselves as black but rather, they distinctive racial groups.
They still deal with the same problems that BLACK FOLKS deal with 💯
South African history in a nutshell.
Coloured people are a distinct group of their own, even on government documents (African/Black, White, Chinese, Indian, Coloured, Other is how it usually goes). You as an individual can even talk about being such-and-such amount of X and Coloured. They have a carnival/heritage festival due to most Coloured families and individuals being forced to live in certain areas of the Cape provinces, and thus developing a distinct culture over time. They have their own dialect, Kaapse Afrikaans (Cape Afrikaans) and a recognisable accent distinct from White Afrikaners. Because in SA we don't in race, we think in tribes (tribalism)
Like we even distinguish between English whites and Dutch/Afrikaans whites
You give great commentary ❤️🔥🎍🙌🏾
Watched the entire vid… and subscribed. I think I like you sis!
I'm so tired of people going on about Tyla being labeled colored....educate yourselves on South Africa and it's people before spewing nonsense ✋🏽😅
Exactly 😂😂😂 it's so irritating when people think that the western way of thinking is law and they are the only ones who are right
Me being biracial and scared to play the video💀im so tired of my identity being debated
Me too welcome to the club 😭
Blame your yt ancestors 😫 black people tired of ts too
Yup
@@Dreadkid08 ayo join the ... well i guess there ain't a club hence -
Yup. I'm in the same boat.
I think its also important to note here that the backing beat and general sound of "Water" by Tyla is from very common, specifically South African genre of hiphop that emerged during apartheid as a part of protest music, like its catchy as hell and thats one of the reasons why it was so effective in generating international awareness for what was happening in the 80s and 90s
This conversation reminds me of Danzy Senna's work. Thank you for this video ❤
As a sometimes white-passing multiracial person (mixed with black, native, and white), it is a struggle and yt people who try to be racially ambiguous for clout have made being multiracial all the more harder... I understand the trust issues because the folks who try to bank off of racial ambiguity for clout and shit have just made being mixed a whole lot more of a situation for certain communities. It comes to the point where I identify less with my black culture even though I grew up and adopted black culture through my family because I am used to now being seen as not in the community. It's okay though I've come to understand my balance between respecting my culture and ancestors and also realizing that race is a social construct and I happen to be privileged at the moment more and more as ambiguity starts to mean white. It just hurts to feel erased from the community since I was not seen as white-passing until recently... What happened? I think it is the racial re-evaluation you are talking about.
I feel the same. My issue is that as a (very obviously) mixed person born and raised in the US, this leaves me with no community at all. I might be light but I can’t and don’t wish to be white. There is no community/communal history of mixed people in this country so what happens to us.
Same, I am canadian mixed race and I get excluded from my own ancestry and community- I don’t even bother to try anymore. It does hurt to not have any cultural traditions or community to connect with - I was *really really* torn up about it in high school when my school was super diverse, but I’ve had to accept it overtime. Honestly, part of me wishes I could marry into a family with really strong cultural routes to experience that community and feeling and learn from them in a way my own family hasn’t been able to. It sucks that there isnt a place for us, but I think that mixed people just get it and we can build a community of caring people who accept each other no matter who we are and what our backgrounds are
Oh no... a "tragic mulatto". 😂😂
youtube people?
@@en7252You're only proving their point right like gtfo
Speaking as a biracial person, being racially ambiguous doesn’t mean we get to avoid stereotypes. For me, it’s always meant having twice the stereotyping, while not being able to properly fit in or be accepted by members of either race, even within my own family
Yeah, I was told several times by black kids growing up that I was "white" or acted "white" and then white kids at school wanted to use me as a "well so and so is half black" trump card 😂 😅 I also had some people think I was stuck up because I was biracial, like I thought I was better or prettier than they were because my features were more "white"
That was how as a little kid I realized how black girls are seen by a lot of people. Girls I always thought were beautiful and gorgeous, and who had been told by others they weren't and who didn't see themselves as that because of their blackness.
I never thought myself better, but I had a lot of guilt until my early 20s because I was worried my black friends or classmates thought that I thought I was better than them, and as a result I didn't put a lot of effort into my appearance
@@Starburst514 summarized my experience, too. I had my 10 y/o cousin cut my hair from the nape when I was 4 to try and teach me “humility”, calling it “Brazil hair”, when girl, I have selective mutism and was very shy around them but always made sure to be the sweetest with my older cousins so they’d be my friends. I found them so pretty and fascinating, like any kid would.
Like what lesson in humility does that teach a kid.
So at some point I just started swallowing that judgment and feeling guilty for it, especially when I couldn’t talk and people would jump to the conclusion I was ignoring them for some sense of superiority.
Those things do scar a person overtime, that’s one of the stereotypes I hate the most in our community, racism from yt people I can expect, but it hurts a bit more when this weird colorist attitude comes from someone from the same oppressed community I was born and raised in
omg yes, the "wrong" slurs lol
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as a biracial person, I will admit that I have struggled with my race for most of my childhood and teenage years. I have a white mom, and my black dad was out of the picture, so my view of race was diverse, but still very narrow minded. I feel bad to admit this, but in elementary school, I used to always see myself as slightly better than darker black people. I went to a very diverse school, but anyone who was dark was called "African booty scratcher" by fellow mixed race people. I never participated, but I thought as myself to be better because I wasn't being called that.
For middle school, I was dramatically switched to predominantly a white school (catholic private school, to be specific) and I did everything to "act white" because that was the only way I could make friends. I would straighten my hair, ignore the black side of my race. By the time I got to high school (also a private catholic school), there was a little bit more diversity, and I wanted to get to know more black people, but I was never accepted on account of having lighter skin and "acting white", nor was I really accepted by white people, because I was still black and "ratchet" and loud.
Now in my mid 20s, I acknowledge that me having a lighter skin tone gives me some sort of "acceptance" in America because I'm not "black enough". I will also acknowledge that I still am thrown racial slurs and stereotypes constantly just for being darker than the average white person. I understand that my struggles as a mixed race person doesn't compare to the struggles of being a black person, but I still have to deal with racism for being partially black.
Now, I try to learn more about blackness and black history as much as possible, and I will always step in to help and support the black community as much as I can financially, physically, and emotionally. I'm sorry for the long comment, and I'm sorry if I've made anyone feel uneasy with my comment, but I just felt the need to share what it has been like for me being a biracial person with little to no diversity in my growing age
this
i find this so fascinating because back in the 80s/90s, my mom (a doctor) had to put people's ethnicity in their forms (creepy) and she would have a lot of mixed patients- she had one who was black, asian, hispanic, and indian, and she wasn't sure what to put for him, and one of her nurses who was black said "put him as black, we'll take anyone"
i also have noticed gatekeeping of queerness which used to be VERY "if you're not straight get in here friends"
as an old, i lean towards that "everyone is welcome in our club" mentality- but as an activist i appreciate the distrust and annoyance when you get a flood of new members who are really only there for the aesthetic
hopefully we can keep our eye on the ball and remember we are all living at the whims of a select few and start being mad at THEM instead of each other
I appreciated what you said about solidarity bc I see some analogies to how divide and conquer strategies prevent different communities of color from working smoothly together. Sometimes I feel like people will focus on whatever they can find in order to divide folks for their own power and benefit. There’s a difference btw honoring/celebrating/studying/acknowledging these differences vs weaponizing it.
Haven't watched the video yet, but I truly hope that now this **latest** (there have been *many*!) "Coloured is a racial category in South Africa!" social media spat between black Americans & South Africans has gotten more exposure & attention bc it features a public figure (Tyla), we can all just go back to staying in our own lanes. Americans can learn something new and South Africans can enjoy a drop in our blood pressure and never have to painstakingly justify and water down and explain our history with colonisation & apartheid to non-Southys anymore.
Pls. I'm begging.
I was just thinking that for the South African singer its different because here "coloured" is a race with its own culture. Why are we erasing the context and arguing as if Tyla is American. South Africans have their own identity, let her keep hers.
I co-sign all of this.
yessss i mean i can see how americans would get confused that tyla is black. she looks like a regular black american, but respect her ethnicity and culture. we need to stop grouping all black ppl together. i dont care if they're darker than you, worry about our black american ethnicity!!
@@iglesiamiredf6428but does she... She doesnt look like coco jones, flo milii, justin skye
@@leavemeal0ne378 but she does look like halle bailey, chloe bailey, mariah the scientist etc. black americans are not monolithic and produce an array of phenotypes
I LOVEEE how you broke this down, but I never knew the words to describe it! As a Black woman, I am always going to be an advocate for representation of BLACK WOMEN (i.e. when the book describes a fully black character with "black" features, I expect to see that, not a biracial/mixed race person). Yet when I explain this, people will literally argue with me by saying that they're "still Black" and defending the one drop rule (which as you said just defends the idea that Black people are "tainted" or "impure"). When it comes to talking about someone being mixed race/biracial, my intentions are never to make someone "choose" a side or "pick" an identity; rather, its me stating that a biracial/mixed person has a different lived experience that I, as an unambiguous Black women, will have, and thus, they should be able to (re)present their unique perspectives to the world. It's just that! They shouldn't have to pick a side or choose because they're both, and I realize, in the U.S. especially, there is a big problem with trying to categorize people. And what I've realized is that people try to do that so they can figure out how to treat you, whether you deserve certain "privileges" or not, and that's just crazy to me
I understand that of how representation matters in media. But wouldn't it make sense to go after the companies who r getting away with the poor rep not the people??
@@brandond1947they audition for the roles why are biracials auditioning for roles again
@@leavemeal0ne378 fair point but don't biracials still feel like they r blk? What you're saying is how yt people feel wen blk people take roles of known yt characters. Wouldn't it better instead of getting mad at the people or person auditioning for the role, to just put pressure on companies who ultimately have the decision?
Also, it's still up to the person who is doing the auditions to decide
@@brandond1947 but they’re not full black. That makes them biracial or mixed.
@@blackellegirl yes but they still feel and get treated as being blk. Alot of us in the US r not Fully blk so let's please stop sayin that lol. My grandpa is half blk and half native but he looks like a regular blk man, was in the blk community, and was a blk activist. Hes blk lol. Going by your logic would people able to tell on first glance a dif between a lightskinned blk or a biracial person??
I don't always comment... maybe rarely, but I do watch these all the way through. :) I've always had mixed (aha!) feelings about the biracial topic. I've always understood the feelings from both sides, but I'm definitely ready for us as a community to shift our perspective about it to something that doesn't have to be one or the other side. I'm in an interracial relationship so my children will have to navigate this. I just want them to be comfortable as they are, but I also want them to be aware of what being biracial with black really means in the US.
Thanks for reminding me to water my plants. I'm going to do that right now!
It’s not light skinned or biracial or racially ambiguous people’s fault. It’s the industry who keeps promoting, signing, and offering opportunities to these women who ALL LOOK THE SAME. When I saw Tyla I was like omg…. She’s talented for sure but Jesus Christ you can tell the people who are signing these artists truly have a fetish:
1.) Cassie
2.) Beyoncé
3.) Ciara
4.) Tyla
5.) Ella Mai
6.) Aaliyah
7.) Ashanti
8.) Ice Spice
9.) Doja Cat
10.) Saweetie
11.) Jhene Aiko
12.) kehlani
13.) Victoria Monet
14.) Mya
15.) Amerie
16.) Keri Hudson
17.) Tinashe
18.) Cardi B
19.) Latto
20.) Bia
To name a FEW and This is JUST the past 10-20 years ALONE . People are right to be outraged. It’s fetishizing a select group of colored women as the standard.
This is my point. In mainstream media, I do not exist as a dark skinned woman. It is infuriating knowing that darker women are being looked over to shine the light on light skinned women. This has been going on for decades. If I were to consider America from media, I would wager that black men are typically dark skinned, and black women are mixed. I have every right to point this out and b me horrified at this erasure
You lost me at Victoria
@@mahlatse8605she lost me at Ciara 😅
Girl Ciara and Victoria Monet????are you for real 😳
People are also right to react to that picture of Beyonce. There is basically one plastic surgery/photoshop/filter face these days. Beyonce and the Kardashians are merging into one.
I’m a biracial Black woman (I am phenotypically Black but benefit from colorism, texturism, privilege from having white parent). I grew up with my white mom in a sundown town and it was hell. For a lot of biracial Black people, especially with white moms who don’t do their job, our only introduction to our culture and community is through the horrific violence and racism that has become synonymous with being Black in America. So when ppl on Twitter say “call yourself biracial” what an unhealed, insecure biracial person hears is “you did not go through what you went through”. I agree that fully Black women, especially darkskin Black women are being erased from media but I think the answer to that is calling white supremacy, rampant colorism and type casting, as well as mixed actors not taking roles for fully Black people; not expanding the one drop rule from including Halsey and Logic to also including Halle Berry and Barack Obama bc race is still phenotypical. It’s on person by person basis. I call myself a Black biracial woman bc I am Black but also biracial. For over a decade I refused to even think of myself as half white bc of what I went through growing up, but acknowledging both sides of you is very healing and I wish us all luck in becoming secure and proud to be us regardless of how we ended up externally :)
it is literally a fact that biracial people are biracial. Idk why the truth is so hard for them to accept. Halle berry and Barack Obama both are biracial and should be categorized as such. Please do not tell black women what they should and should not do. A part of not being erased in the media is protecting your identity and not opening your arms to people who will happily take roles from you in the future. If there was real allyship, we wouldn't be in this mess. Obviously we can dismantle white supremacy, but we can gatekeep our image and support our own image.
Oh this was beautifully put! I relate a lot to this!
This was really well put. Using the term "unhealed, insecure biracial person" made me feel seen in a really sad way.
I’m just curious to know why your mother raised you in a sundown town.
Y'all need to stop limiting blackness to your experiences . It's minimizesour identities solely to our experiences. Kind of like saying " i got wide hips and nappy hair too therefore i only ever identified as black" . Just stop
You are priceless! You mirror my experience as I'm African Amer., Cherokee, Irish and Mexican. Neither here nor there....not "kickin' it" as a way of life.
found you just recently and i wanted to saw i really dig your videos!!! Glad to find your awesome work
As a biracial person in the U.S. (for context of my personal experience), I identify as simply mixed race - because that’s literally what I am genetically. Now, with that being said, I recognize different people have different experiences growing up depending on their specific family, region, and culture. Also, you can be genetically mixed, and identify more with “black culture”, or with “white culture”, or a little of both depending on your own personal experience; but regardless, it still doesn’t take away what you genetically are. You can identify however you want, but don’t get mad at others for not identifying themselves how you think they should identify to fit your ignorant rigid constructs of their own identity. People generally identify most with the culture they grew up in - sometimes that coincides with their external appearance, but sometimes it doesn’t, and that’s okay. A good rule of thumb is if you’re curious about someone’s ethnicity, be respectful, and ask in a genuine and kind way, so that they feel comfortable sharing with you. As the saying goes, it’s not necessarily *what* you say, but *how* you say it. ✌️
Genetics literally doesn't matter. All that should matter, is how you were accultured growing up.
@@DreamersOfRealitygenetics literally matters. An Asian girl was adopted by a black family. Does that make her black ? Y'all sound pathetic
@@DreamersOfRealitymy cousin has a white mother and black father she grew up with her white family…..she acts “like a ghetto black American” despite being German….her black family isn’t even American they are Caribbean. At this point all that matters is what she is genetically because she does whatever she wants despite never stepping foot in the US…she’s been cultured by her media interpretation not real life!
Genetics is different from culture.You can be mixed race and identify culturally as black just like a japanese person born and raised in Puerto Rico is racially asian but culturally puerto rican. Ive seen it first hand.
I agree that nobody should be told how to identify , but we should be critical of the categories we were presented to identify with. "Mixed" race is in itself an idea coming from white supremacy. It identifies a person according to their number of white/non white anscestors. In French we have similar words to call "mixed" people: "Chabbin" "metisse" "mulatre" and even words that designate people according to their percentage of Black/white blood. All these terms come from slavery. They stem from the same system that supported slavery, anti Black racism and white supremacy. By identifying with genetical terms coming from the slavery system... aren't we saying that genetics and blood proportions do count ? It shouldn't count in an antiracist society... culture, love, community, family... to me, those are clearer basis for our identity
As a mixed person, I've gotten to a place where I don't care what people's opinions on MY identity are. Even with the renewed discourse online, it's not going to change my experience and I encourage other mixed people to be rooted in their truth (whatever their truth may be). In America, people having these conversations are often confused by the differences between culture, race, and ethnicity. That's where a lot gets lost in translation.
Honestly it's really no one else business on your identity
I love this video. Struggling with identity culturally is a subject rarely discussed. Like differences amongst people transcends shades. And even when you're with people who look like you acceptance isn't always guaranteed right away - sometimes you need to prove yourself to others 😅...which can be mentally taxing at times. Thanks for shedding some light on that aspect.
I pick up what you're putting down!💞
"The world dosnt like to accept the contradictory and ever changing nature of human beings"
- Khadijah Mbowe 2023
“Beeeinggssahh” you mean?
Guys don't forget that in South Africa, Coloured people are their own group, not necessarily people who are mixed race(idk if theres a cultural equivalent elsewhere because they have their own histories, languages, dialects etc and are not just mixed) when having conversations about her I hope people place her in context of South Africa.
I'm just tired of not having a community. Being biracial has always represented my not feeling safe out in the world.
Yall do have a group there’s a bunch of mixed people that’s your group
@@everybodywannabelikemike_ as a mixed person, I don’t feel as if I have a group. Even though there are tons of biracial people out there, a lot of us still can’t relate really to one another, culturally wise. I think it really depends on how the biracial kid grew up. Depending on what side of their family they saw most, or maybe if they were in a neighborhood with a lot more of one side of their race than the other, it would affect how that person views themselves. Growing up I’ve had mostly biracial friends, but I still don’t feel like they are my “racial community”. The thing is, society doesn’t want us to have each other as a community. They want to keep everything simple and everyone has to be one direct race. I’ve always been called black, even though I’m white and black into me. Personally I feel more white than black because I’ve only really been around my white mom’s side of the family. But it doesn’t matter what I think because I will always be treated like I am black, because of the way I look.
@@Chloeunicorn510 I so feel every word you said.
Mixed people come by the millions. Stop this poor me bs. Blame your parents tf
@@Chloeunicorn510: So you're not confused and exactly, the world will treat you like a Blk person.
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