Why everyone is wrong about interracial dating
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This video breaks down the complexity of why interracial dating for black people is universally controversial.
Edited by @TheZatzman
Special Appearances by @supereyepatchwolf3007 and @KhadijaMbowe
00:00 Intro
07:41 It always goes back to slavery...
14:27 It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand
37:25 Swirlconomics
59:33 No seriously it's always goes back to slavery
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The following things are true at the same time:
1) Some people are in interracial relationships for the wrong reasons (internalized self-hate on the part of some Black folks, or exoticism/fetishism on the part of some white folks). All people in IRRs should not be equated with them, but we all know these people exist and can be loud and annoying.
2) In the context of Black-white IR dating and marriages, given the racism and/or misogyny of some swirlers and the history of the USA, it is understandable that some Black women resent Black men dating/marrying white women, and some Black men resent Black women dating/marrying white men.
3) Despite factors 1-2, opposition to interracial relationships is a reactionary position that is almost always based on either pseudoscientific biological assumptions about race and/or logically dubious nationalist-collectivist demands for racial loyalty.
4) If you're going to do the swirl, just STFU about it and be a decent person, and most of the world doesn’t care. It is mostly corny, ignorant, or egotistical people creating problems around this issue.
i would say more than some lol
Preach!
THIS!!
The part that’s WILD to me is how many POC (online at least) jump to full on white nationalist brain worms over the topic. It’s so depressing seeing the same sort of essentialist bullshit just aligned the other way coming from the mouths of people who should know better. I wish we had a better way to point out that actually it’s not woke to just go the other way. Obviously it’s not a comparable threat, but if we want to build a better world it’s got to be built on good foundations, not the same essentialist bullshit with a swapped palette.
I agree I always say I have no issue with responsible IRs, but we need common sense regulations! I’m talking background checks, waiting periods and review boards before a social media post. Basically the same things I believe we need for podcasts lol (\j)
“Travis went from ‘Ayy shordy what it is?’ to ‘License and registration please.” Is exactly the kind of commentary I come here for 😂
So funny and true! And sad, at the same time. I don’t see why anybody would be interested romantically with a guy like that. Mask changing because of who you date.
It's funny because it's true. But what is even funnier, is that his black women fanbase was offended a white man is dating a white woman. This is some mind-boggling surreal sh*t.
i cracked up laughing at that
@@freedomm OMG, that is so true!!! You got me cracking up in here!!! 🤣😅😆 The funny thing for me is that I didn't know who Travis was until *the actual friggin news networks started talking **_Non Stop_** about him and the Mayonnaise Singer.* Before that, I saw him on Saturday Night Live once, but didn't know _why_ he was hosting.
F.D has so many wicked one-liners 😂
Coming from a black woman, who was taught by those inside and out of her race that my blackness made me undesirable: ladies, you are more than enough and deserve all the love in the world. Find the person, whether it be a friend or partner, black or other, that honors this truth for you.
Trust me: there are a lot of people who find black women irresistable.
That doesn’t mean that they will marry a black woman. Just because a man will sleep with you doesn’t mean anything. As black women we have to take our time with non black men to ensure they aren’t using us for an ego boost and or for flings.
@@tristanband4003statistically, that’s debatable.
@@chrislyn1868 i was talking in absolute numbers, not percentages.
@@ilikepancakes2368 Don't rule out anyone
“Being black is inherently political.” That just hit me to my core.
You do it to yourselves.
@@jimtc1000 so you think it's problem that being black is inherently political?
@@ChannelMath I don't even think they care. That's why the oaf prematurely spat out words of deflection, eager and ready to dismiss any fact pertaining to reality and not the delusion and !gnorance that perfectly suits the oaf.
@@jimtc1000 ❌Wrong.
Being black is inherently political because we’ve been struggling in this country for liberation for decades
What dos that even mean?🤔
That stuff about black women at hospital is something my wife had to face. Those nurses gave her something that made her itch then gave her 3 doses of benadryl. I had to ask for the senior nurse or doctor cuz she was half awake during child birth. Our daughter was asleep when born...it was a nightmare.
I am sorry for your experience.
I lived in a very conservative small town growing up and in my early adulthood. I used to dread having to go to the hospital for anything. I had an experience where the attending nurse was very aggressive, condescending, and rude from the get-go, and purposely did something unnecessary that caused me a lot of physical pain while stoically observing my pained reaction, and not apologizing. I just wanted to get out of there, and regretted my decision to go. Also experienced other instances where staff were mean and dismissive where I was completely polite, and I didn't understand why.
When I was a kid, my mom used some bad tuna apparently, and we all had to go to the hospital for treatment, and I will never forget what this heavy set nurse did to me, I was alone in a hospital bed in a room, and she comes in without saying a word, flips me hard onto my stomach, and without any warning she rammed a suppository up me, so hard, that my body goes stiff with shock and pain, and then she just simply walks out of the room and then she looks back and gives me a dirty look, for Pete's sake I was just a little sick kid, but it didn't matter to her. 😢
I had to get my blood monitored for an hour during an ER visit. The LPN didn’t know I was and she kept making sure it hurt. They found the issue after 3 draws so I moved on but let me tell you, I have no want to get along with anyone who says anything near “racism” doesn’t exist. There’s several reasons I had to go to the white hospital anyway.
When I had my daughter the nurse stuck the needle for iv into my arm but neglected to connect the iv so I was bleeding out onto the floor and she told me to go sleep… when my daughter’s dad came in the room saw what was happening and tried to take a picture the same nurse came in and shunned him about recording her mistake which could have been dire. Also when they started cutting me I could feel it, I told the anesthesiologist and he asked me “are you sure” as the tears rolled down my face…. Yeah
I spent my teens in a predominantly white liberal city and was in an interracial relationship. The amount of times white strangers congratulated us on the street for holding hands was truly bizarre and the segment on interracial couples in ads was on point with that experience.
I would prefer that response to some of the more "traditional" response here in America..
I had a slur spat at me next to the highway by some old white guy (in Alberta, not US)
@@ericzajdel4259
I mean sure but I would like to emphasize that its still shitty. Sure it could be worse, but we can recognize that all options suck
In my anecdotal experience dating a white person, I have also been told by white people that we are a cute couple more often than I ever have when taking space with a black man, where usually black people will tell us we look cute. Obviously there’s more factors there, attractiveness and such. But I can’t help but find it funny and a little sad.
Funnily enough me and my black wife live in very red state and also get compliments at a disproportionate rate but given the context clues of the interaction we both always saw it as white republican types trying to show their not racist.
That last bit with Sojourner Truth's actual words being changed by a white woman because she thought it was too eloquent and not black sounding enough.....maaaaaannnnn that knocked me out.
Same
Somehow I didn’t know about it being changed before, and something about it truly is horrifying. I remember that speech from school and I really wanted to write a comment trying to explain the type of despair it made me feel but I don’t think I can. Just a strong reminder of how deeply the sickness runs.
And that my friends is every black person collectively telling that white woman that she totally missed the entire point and the irony went way over her head.
This was almost as big a surprise to me as my first time learning about the Tulsa massacre. So much truth buried under empty gestures of "diversity" by liberal media. Fiq, thank you for doing your part to share this truth with us 🙏
Yup. And, of course.
I'm South African and even here we have the issue of media over representing racially mixed couples and particularly mixed family structures. Our population is over 80% black and mixed couples are virtually unheard of. The only places you can observe mixed couples are in the major cities and even then its a rare citing. Our media is white owned which explains a lot. We have a unique myth around being "the rainbow nation" which is a myth similar to "the american dream" that informs such representations though.
That rainbow nation thing was a scapegoat to unaddressed the social issues and consequences of apartheid personally
They also speak a lot about skin bleaching in the media.
Safas 💯
Your time is NEVER wasted when you teach us! Please keep going.
Umar Johnson is the epitome of someone who can rattle off a bunch of takes that are 100% spot-on, but then say something so cartoonishly absurd that it immediately distracts from whatever valid points he'd just made.
Lol
He's Oswald Bates... for real
Easy to have some good takes when you are simply regurgitating great minds before you. Harder to have good takes when it's time to draw your own conclusions.
He's a reactionary traditionalist to the bone. Media savvy enough to know what will provoke.
Not gonna lie I was on the floor when he said Spider-Man is thristing for skim milk
I work with a few black men and they all have white/ Latina partners. They were always pretty rude and short with me, but when they found out my partner was also not black they were all a sudden angry and disrespectful with me. It’s literally the only thing we have in common, I just didn’t make it my personality.
This is sadly fairly common with black men who date out. It’s the self hate mixed with jealousy because society has traditionally ranked men above women and then non-black people above black people. So, those that subconsciously buy into this see you as being chosen by someone more valuable than both them and the partner they chose. So technically you have higher status because you are with someone with a higher status. It’s messed up for sure but they can’t harp on about how horrible black women are when someone with a higher status than them or their partner chose to be with a black women. The logic crumbles and they’re forced to confront their demons or get mad. Crazy
This…. Some black men make it a point to be disrespectful to Black women and highlight their non-black partners…
But when they find out that you too have a non-black partner 🫣.
Rage, hate, bewilderment… it’s wild.
I think they expect black women to remain single. And I will also say their non-black partners are also perturbed, especially if your non-black partner is of their same group.
Like the equation was never suppose to go that way. Non-black women are great, but never engage with their brothers. And black men are great, but never engage with his sisters…
What 😂
@Princetonian4eva that is such an interesting take. I never thought about it that way!
Heavy on the "I don't make it my personality"
@@Princetonian4eva I was just saying this yesterday! How a lot of black men who date interracially will create narratives about black women "craving validation" from white men because they, themselves, see non-black people as our betters who can affirm our (black people's) worth. They keep forcing this imaginary competition of who is more desired by the "betters" only to repeatedly run into the wall of contending with a massive fear of being inadequate to white men.
As a Brazilian afab person, this was very educational! It’s so “strange” to see other experiences and essays on this topic through an American point of view. In my country black people are encouraged to marry outside, and it’s very rare for me to find black on black marriages basically anywhere, but specially in the Christian community I grew up in.
This comes from an attempt to “lighten” the population post slavery. While in America interracial marriage was once illegal, in Brazil it was encouraged as a way to erase blackness from our country. A very popular example I can remember now is a painting of an elderly black woman thanking god that her newborn grandchild had fair, with the mother, who is also mixed, and a white father holding the baby.
Today most of the population is mixed, and the so called “Solidão da mulher preta” or “loneliness of black women” affects the lives of almost all Brazilian black women, who usually end up single or are discarded once the man finds a white woman who’s willing to date him.
So when you showed the data and how most black men in America marry other black women, I was definitely surprised. The vast majority of couples I see here are interracial, mostly black men and white women. Black men are often fetishized in relationships due to stereotypes and believe they have to marry white women for validation, while black women are often discarded and left alone for not fitting in the mainstream beauty standards. I hope one day we overcome this self-hating anti-blackness mentality
In my country it was not as bad but there was a preference to lighter skinned children by the older folks.
Thank you for sharing this.
Maybe you could go on social media in Brazil and tell BM to stop killing off BW since you say you want the Blk selfhate to end...
Também espero.
Lembra-te que és uma pessoa linda.
Well, when you have Xuxa and her "paquitas," being the former pinnacle of aspirational Brazilian beauty, and men like Pele, seeking out said perceived zenith of "perfection," it's not surprising Brazil is the way it is.
Thank you for the video! It hits home because I experienced it through my Russian family.
My half-aunt, my dad’s sister from my grandfather’s second marriage, once married a Nigerian man and gave birth to my cousins. I don’t know why, but that man didn't want to take the responsibility of fatherhood, abandoned my aunt and returned to Nigeria. Neither he nor his Nigerian family ever contacted my aunt and never inquired about the fate of the girls. The girls are raised by their white Russian mother and grandparents. They have been going to school for a year now, and I can already see how the majority and even some parts of our family treat them as "others". I heard people say about my cousins: "Oh, I saw how they played, their games aren't at all like the games of OUR children" (like if my cousins aren't even Russians) . Even my grandmom, my granddad’s ex-wife, sometimes teases the girls with racism and can call them “little monkeys”. I love my family, but I don't want my cousins to feel like they're "outsiders" just because they're biracial.
I’ll say it from a Russian perspective of biracial relationships: when there were Youth Festivals and white Russian girls gave birth to children from dark-skinned visitors, they were hit with such a barrage of hatred and bullying towards their biracial children that we can talk about it endlessly.
In general, judging by the history of the Soviet Union and present-day Russia, people constantly talk about “equality”, that “there is no racism in Russia, we accept dark-skinned people as people,” but at the same time, if a white Russian girl wants to start a relationship with a dark-skinned guy, she and her partner will experience a barrage of hate. Moreover, if a white Russian girl starts a relationship with a white foreigner (mainly from America and Western Europe), then the majority won't care at all. When a white Russian man wants to date a non-white woman, people will even support him and call his partner “exotic.”
The systemic idea that non-white men (especially from post-Soviet Central Asia) are trying to “take over Russia” through white Russian women and that “they are spoiling our gene pool” has become so wedged into Russian society that no one wants to talk about it, because just dare mention this hypocrisy, then expect hatred, bullying and even death threats from your own people.
So, I think yall understand what I mean when I don't trust "there's no racism in Russia" bias, despite me being a white Russian. Because, yeah, a lot of Black foreigners had pleasant experiences while travelling Russia, you won't hear someone shouting racist slurs at the Black man on streets. But just because Russian or just Eastern European racism is different from American racism, it doesn't mean we don't have it all. Our racism is deeply rooted in xenophobia and Slavic nationalism. Our folks will accept you as non-white IF you will be at the acceptable distance and you don't try to interrogate into Russian society (cause it is automatically seen as a threat).
Sorry for a long comment, but I really wanted to express everything that your video revoked inside me.
I feel like this is something that sits in a lot of cultures all over the world. I spent several years in Japan and have learned a lot about Japanese society. As foreign tourist, no matter what race you are, if you go to Japan for vacation and behave well during your stay, honor their customs and traditions, and you will be fine. No one will insult, no one will hate you just for being different. You might see a little resistance from some, but at most it's a rejection of service because they don't want to deal with foreigners for whatever reason. Stay there for a long time and try to integrate into Japanese society, and even if you date, have a family with a local, they will still see you as a foreigner and your kids will be seen as different, despite growing up alongside other Japanese children, because they are. All this tells me is that countries are still dealing with breaking away from their traditionalist nationalism and values that have been ingrained for Eons in a world where more and more people are finding that they want to live in a culture that is completely different from where they were born.
I dressed up as Umar for Halloween (it was cheap cause I already look vaguely like him). NOBODY, knew who i was. I immediately realized that I'm in the Bahamas and I dressed up as an incredibly American based icon. Same goes for the interracial discourse. Its not a global discourse in the same configuration and vehemence as in the states. My ambience is surrounding with Black partnerships. Go outside, if you can and preferably with mask, and you'll realize that the internet ≠ reality as well as the USA is not the world.
The people online generally don't exist in the real world and I think most people aside from probably a few exceptions, don't carry on in public like they do online. You could probably say it's a form of code switching for some.
With a mask yes!!
For the algorithm - this is a good channel btw ^
@@derrekbertrandNo he isn't.
Yes. Decolonise the internet from US
Imma put it out there. I also need to see more platonic black love. Like we dont even have that. We dont have images of black folks caring for eachother just cause love but ESPECIALLY amongst black men and women. Low-key this what made Nope one of my favorite movies in recent history. Like of course theyre siblings but i also think like damn.... how much do i see black brother sister duo portrayed like that.
Also why soiderpunk is the best aprt of across
That's what I'm talking about. It's nothing to just tell people no means no and walk off💁🏽♂️
Totally agree 👏🏾👏🏾
Completely agree
Spiderpunk is my new inspiration.
Ace here, and _yes._ Especially ones that aren't done performatively.
Thank you for this video man. Growing up in a community that had a black majority I dated black women. Too be fair, we're talking about middle/high school relationships that did not work out but the attraction has always been there. But now, as a black man attendeding a majoroty white college, I found the woman I honest to God see myself marrying and she just so happens to be white. When the relationship first started, there was those feelings that I was betraying my race or I started questioning if I was a bunny hopper that Dr. Umar or other black people talked about and it put me in a weird place. Luckily my family and black friends are understanding and open people who all love this girl I'm seeing cause she is genuinely just an amazing person but it took a second for me to feel comfortable even letting my family know she was white. This video kind of retroactively validated myself from 2 years ago and I didn't even realize that was something I even needed man. Very much appreciated 🙏🏾
lol. make sure to raise your children as biracial and dont try any 'black pride' fraudness. i always hated my father for it and wished i was fully black, i dont speak to him and hate my mom too. its not about you its about the kids dont create us
How's her family handling it..?
@mochachinomonahan8462 Most of her family are really cool about it. Everyone is so nice to me everytime we see each other. The only one who's bad is her grandfather who's real in his racist bag who doesn't know I exist
I'm really glad you brought up the editing of Sojourner Truth's famous speech. Now I gotta go back and watch Into the Spiderverse again.
My sociology professor 5 years ago told me about the over representation of interracial couples in the media. He was biracial (black and white with a white mother) himself but he was born in the 50s. He said that he remembered barely seeing any families that looked like his and now instead of seeing Black families in media all he sees are interracial families. He said that the “browning” of America will be the excuse the media uses to justify their lack of positive Black media. He told us to watch how they’ll keep putting interracial families or a black family with one racially ambiguous “black” person and then act like we’re crying over nothing.
I remember thinking that class was so pointless as a biology major. 😂😂
Hit the nail.
Hollywood default ideas of black woman is essentially zendaya, when it comes to trauma content then boom everyone is dark skin
The deal breaker was NOT race, nor age, nor sexual orientation, nor social/economic status. It was religion and lying about it to the masses post Gaza war failure.
@@wrestlinganime4life288this is why my video
About biracial
Being separated from mono racial blackness is key.
I wonder if you saw the video FD did as a response seemingly to the one drop rule / including mixed folks in Blackness?
BIG FACTS
People on social media have found a way to capitalize heavily on being in interracial relationships. It's so bad to the point where you can clearly tell, they would have no following without their interracial relationship.
Omg! Yes! Glad someone finally said it!
Shit, Bill De Blasio did this to some degree
Very true. Having a partner of a different race is a whole promotional plan for some people.
Oof, speaking the truth. There are a lot of social media couples where their whole thing is being in an interracial relationship and "funny" cultural exchanges.
Boy instagram is full of ut and it's soo cringe most of the time they ain't got nothing else to talk about it.
From senior school, I've found myself typically more attracted to black women than white women or those from other demographics, and for a long time, I never thought about why this may be the case. Having talked about this with my exes over the last 10 years (most of whom have been black), I came to the conclusion that I just feel more accepted than I do amongst white women. I do my best to educate myself on the history around this, without driving myself crazy, but unfortunately, I find that I have so much pushback (predominantly from white people, including friends and family) who seem to think I do this on purpose. This leads me to ask the question, "Would I get so much resistance if I dated exclusively within my own culture?" I like to believe I follow my heart, but I can't shake the troubling historical implications that get highlighted whenever I'm with someone. This put so much strain on my relationships that I'm choosing to be single for the moment because I can't currently deal with the racism faced from my white peers
And while others are getting hundreds of responses. . .your which I feel is truthful, no one is interested in. . . we're fucked here in America.
@learn_live I think we're screwed in a lot of places. To add a bit more context to my original comment: I was assessed with Asperger's Syndrome about 4 years ago, and I guess this probably explains my difficulties dating in general, but I had this unfortunate habit of staring too long at girls when I was a teenager. I was incredibly shy, but for whatever reason, I've never really been ostracised by black people, but I can't say the same for a lot of white people. I lived in Bermuda for 2.25 years, and I yearn to go back to live there and chill with all the lovely people
I’ve dated majority black and brown women. Mainly because I found the white women to be extremely controlling and where I’m from they were very upper class and I was culturally lower on the totem pole. Latin and black women liked me more.
I also loved hip hop and all that but tbh most hip hop head white guys I knew liked other white women. So I have trouble believing that’s the reason, maybe a contribution tho.
Content like this is soooo important. Giving data, facts, and just breaking down why it feels like we’re not seeing black love and always being slapped in the face this feeling anti black love and blackness in general. Ive told my friends I was getting more divestor content in my algorithm (bc I was clicking it!) and luckily I had dope black men and women that called me out on some of the rhetoric I was saying and I made an effort to look for balanced black intellectual thought. I thank God I found this channel. You provide so much historical content and just give a better overall understanding of wth is going on. Its helped me have a better gage of misinformation and soooo appreciate it!!
My hairline ain't crisp cause I'm broke lmao. These bills, rent and rising costs of a barbershop visit been whooping my ass. I swear my girl is black Unc 😭
😂
Hair cuts get more expensive as you age... was 10-20$ as a teenager, currently 60-100$ in california for working adults by appointment. That hairline stereotype seemed like a gross oversimplification lol.
I'm growing freeform locs rn. I ain't shaping shit! but yes, I'm a trans black man trying sooo hard to find another black man.
Dawg search up lineup/fade videos on youtube and line yourself up 😂😂 Im my own barber now and it saves so much money plus it’s a nice skill / hobby to have
My barber shop closed because they couldn't afford the rent anymore. I'm just letting it grow free and picking it out, and I'm starting to look like my dad from the 70's.
I always love when these videos include other RUclipsrs reading the titles because it’s so exciting to see that F.D. Signifier likes the same channels I do
Licenses & registration, please! I freaking love it!! I nearly pissed my pants!
Making my white friend say "It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand." is exactly some shit I'd do lmao
🤣🤣🤣
It pays to just let people talk sometime I swear😅
Had me dying
White guy here. I was on a date with a BW and she was trying to get me to say "brutha" with full conviction I'm like "oh hahaha you're so funny 👀 😅" and she was like "no do it 😠"
@@matthewdouglas2373did you do it?😂
What happened to Sojourner's speech is the most unnerving, despicable thing. It feels so unreal like we're in the twilight zone.
yeah that shocked me.
My jaw dropped. That one hurt
My skin crawled.
Genuine shock when he mentioned it
I still remember the first time I learned about it, and holy shit; I genuinely felt *unclean* just learning it. Like, legitimately "I need to go home and scrub myself off because of what that woman did". It's a whole new level of gross. And it's a vile shame because Sojourner's original speech must have been amazing to hear in person.
I gotta say this was a very informative video about “swirlconomics” and how when people think of interracial relationships, their minds refer to blackmen.
A few things I want to highlight; 1. Pick up a book titled “The Man-Not by Tommy J Curry”. In this book the author, a Blackman of course, gives eye witness testimonies about the United States obsession with black males’s sexuality. And let me tell you, the author highlights just how deep this obsession is.
One story that stood out the most for me, was a story where a white man remembered a public lynching when he was boy and how his mother, father, along with himself, became sexually aroused while gazing at the lifeless corpse of the blackman. Now here’s where it gets creepy, the man used this childhood memory to arouse himself enough to have sex with his wife… Now I left a few parts out, but if anyone chooses the read the book, you’ll get the full gambit of the story.
Also the book highlights how a lot of young black boys are consistently sexually harassed by police officers. Now there are many more stories in the book of course.
Now to my next topic; when I used to drive Lyft, I picked up this army war veteran who served in Vietnam. The elder I and started to talk seeing how it was a 45 minute drive to his home. Then our conversation gravitated towards his time as a young man growing up in Chicago in the 1930’s-1940’s. Some how we end up on the discussion of women. And he opened my eyes on this topic.
The elder shared story about blackmen dating white women. Now in my mind I’m thinking he’s going to share how black men back then were chasing white women. When in fact it was the opposite. It was the other way around. He stated that at the time a lot of white families lived in the city limits of Chicago and then started to moved to the suburbs to keep white women away from black men.
I asked him “was it because of brothers chasing white women”? He replied “no, it was the white women chasing black men”. He shared that the white women back then were obsessed with black men. The white men took drastic measures into thinking if they can move their wives and daughters away from black men, that they would somehow lose interest. They were gravely mistaken. The white women still chased down black men.
That conversation with the elder made me reflect on with my dealings with white women. Now as for myself, I moved to Atlanta, GA from Brooklyn around 2002 for college. Like most brothers we used to hear the stories on how black women out numbered the brothers in Atlanta. After moving here, enrolled in college and found a part-time job I soon discovered that I was pursued by more white women and non-black women than I was with black women.
Mind you I was chasing after black women. But in a lot of public settings white women were approaching me. I was shocked to experienced this being that at the time, Atlanta was the black meeca of the US. Now I know there is alot and I mean alot of tension between blackmen and black women, but the whole interracial thing is often falls on the shoulders of blackmen. When in fact what’s not being discussed is how women from other cultures are actively pursuing us blackmen.
thank you for the book recommendation, will look into it.
@@Niptuck1996 no problem fam👍🏿. This book is definitely an eye opener.
Cap 🧢 only the dirty ones are
It's not just in the U.S., bro.
Go overseas.
Black men are considered desirable everywhere.
@@MarStoryTimeyep you’re absolutely right.
4:55 Travis Kelce went from "Ay shawty what it is....to...license and registration please" LMFAO
Had me dying at "went from, a shawty what is? To license and registration"
YES lmaoooo
was literally crying omfg
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Being a Black biracial woman colorism is always in the front of my mind when it comes to relationships. I feel fetishized by everyone. I was "shown off" by Black boyfriends when I was a teen. I have always been pursued by much older Black men. My hair and skin color are always what I'm complimented on.I also am aware of being experimented with or being the 1st. I feel guilt and shame, disgust and disappointment more often than I feel flattered or appreciated. And more often than not those who pursue me have been with white or Latina women before me and after. I'm a safe alternative. Yes this comes back to racism.
Black/white biracial femme. Same exact experience 👍🏼
I had similar experiences starting college going to a PWI as a Black biracial man. It was really strange having more than one white woman tell me that “we would have pretty babies together” as a way to hit on me and it stuck with me for many years. The flip side to that is just like you said when dating Black women, there sometimes was this odd thing going on with them since I was a “lite brite”. It got mentioned a little too often with some folks.
Honestly the only women who usually didn’t give me a weird vibe were international women and other biracial Black women. I think I chalk that up to both groups knowing how it feels to be a part or party to something, but never actually belonging. Sometimes I feel like we exist in a strange no man’s land where we’re liable to catch hell from everyone with a pulse.
Mixed here and felt this
@@GulfCoastGrit You attended a PWI🤨I now have to question if you're psychologically Black. Are you the biracial Black male who states: "Love is love" "Racism is so old I don't see it at all" "Slavery was a choice". Or have you accepted that Whites don't see you as half White and now identify as a Black male?
Colorism is the systemic oppression of dark skin people. You don’t experience colorism.
I just want to mention how hilarious it is to me personally that I love supereyepatchwolf and him reading the title card he was not ready for absolutely killed me.
That last bit about Ms Truth's poem was the icing on the cake for me. Interesting anf thought- provoking piece. Thank you.
I'm Black dating an Asian guy and there's absolutely no representation in American media for us. Its almost always white/another race. It's partially why I hold the 90's Cinderella so close to heart because seeing that representation just hit different for me.
Invincible’s Amber + Mark is the ONLY example I can think of.
Gen V too
My wife grew up watching that version of Cinderella, and we have since watched it together several times. It is incredibly charming.
That's why I went to see the movie Boogie- the rep was okay. Insecure and Lovebirds are the only other two I can think of
Molly and Andrew from insecure!
That last part about Soujourner being eloquent in her speech and originally speaking dutch hit home for me. In highschool we analyzed her speech in groups and this one bi-racial white passing boy made a comment about how stupid the speech sounded and why the words weren’t easy to read. And I checked him saying that this woman wrote an incredibly profound speech in a time where black people weren’t allowed to read or write and how disrespectful he’s being to this history. I never knew that the current speech we had access to was changed to sound less eloquent and “slave-like”. I was defending something that wasn’t even true about Soujouner because some white woman changed the vernacular of her speech to sound more like a slave. Wow
Historical event manipulation is so blatant it’s almost comical. I guess it’s a human thing. I see people bending truths so casually I’m almost used to it.
Mhm yes I am glad you called yourself out on this. This happens a lot more than you would have thought.
Even photos of civil rights movement are usually shown in black and white photos and video, although they were originally in color. This is a psyops to make people think it was a looooooong time ago. It wasn't.
As a Hispanic/Latino male, I’ve always paid attention to Black people and the Black experience in America. Because I learned young that the Black experience in America has ripples that impacts and defines all non-Caucasian life in America. As such, this video confirmed a lot for me but also deepens my understanding about the truths and the perceptions of Black relationships. One major confirmation: caution with how non-White anything is presented by White controlled media. It actively takes work to separate one’s own perception of media from the context being presented, to then look at the subtext in the entertainment. It’s like constantly having to check yourself and go “wait, what’s really being said here? Who has an interest in saying it? What do they get from saying it?” Unfortunately, it often goes back to what seems like an elaborate lie being told or misdirection happening.
...well said. I often caution my children; don't just question if a thing is true, but also why this particular truth or aspect thereof is being highlighted.
Eyepatch Wolf on the title cards was an excellent touch 👌
I appreciate the eyepatch wolf confusion, 10/10 comedy
It's my favorite non-F.d part of the video!
I was so confused when I heard him due the chapter one title. I recognized his voice immediately and was like wtf video was that from? Lol
i love that he keeps bringing him back for these things 😂
Plus FD's repping the shirt! Love these dudes
Not gonna lie I do wish there were more videos discussing interracial couples that are two POC, as these relationships seem a little more on the fringes of both real life and in the media.
Absolutely, mainstream interracial/interethnic dating is x race + white.
Only movie I can think of with a PoC interracial/ethnic couple is that Issa Rae one on Netflix where she's dating a SE Asian man.
Lol I always get irritated at movies nowadays cause they wanna make every couple interracial to like what be more inclusive? Idk like they wanna add a POC but not take out the white person…just take the white person out…they don’t gotta be in every movie 😂
se asian? what is that like Filipino?@@gemain609
In my experience, as in my own family, those parings just aren’t as controversial. My family got away with two interracial marriages prior to Loving vs state of Virginia one on a technicality, he was a Russian Jew so phenotypically white, but not socially.
@gemain609 The most recent one that sticks out to me is his reference to the controversy about Into the Spiderverse. They are so concerned about him darting Gwen when he is the child of an interracial couple. His mom is Latina and his dad is black and they are both obviously present and relevant to that movie. It's only important if white people are involved to these critics, even when they are faced with two POCs together from different ethnicities in the exact same story.
This is a very important conversation to have. Thanks for posting
People do what they do. No matter the relationship if it isn’t built on love and respect then you’ll see the truth in that relationship. We just need to start working together for change in our community.
As a Black woman in an interracial marriage, it’s bizarre seeing the amount of IR advertising in the media because I feel it’s not a true reflection of current society. Like most ppl date/marry within their race. The advertising feels forced tbh 🤷🏾♀️
fr. i see more gay WM couples than BWWM couples.
In the UK, interracial advertising is the default, to the point of absurdity. It's virtually impossible for a black person to be paired with another black person because of artificial quotas that do not reflect the reality of society.
I've noticed this since the 90s, starting with the racially ambiguous women (with the mixedish hair lol)...I thought it was a clever way for companies to 'check a lot of boxes' in visual representation... now it kind of stings, seeing as how it's getting hard to see dark-skinned happy families as an advert.
About it not reflecting real life, I think it depends on where you're at and where you go.
In Chattanooga, I saw so many interracial couples I thought they were being subsidized. 😅
In Oakland I'd go to the park and wouldn't be able to tell what child belonged to what family (or if they were their mom or dad). It was like MLK's infamous dream being played out.
@freedomm or black person with mixed black woman. That's too its annoying
@reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee which is funny cuz the later seems to be more common
My personal experience as dating as a black woman has been that it’s hard to find a good man period so what color they are is the least of my worries. But I see some couples that are terrible and some are same race and some are interracial. Long story short, people gonna people no matter that their color.
No it's not hard...the problem with black women is that you're trying to find the perfect man
crazy statement, "hard to find a good man" as if woman are any better than men?
I'm a black man my issue is I have biracial kids and it's assumed I only date white women when , I have dated black , white and biracial women throughout my life
And I have freezed up when a black woman was interested because I didn't want her to assume she's a "back up plan"
Because I don't want her to see that and because so many self hating black men online pull that "white women are better " nonsense
I don't ever want any woman of any race to feel they're a rebound or backup plan especially black women
This is the problem, women can be broke multiple baby daddies but a hard working man not good enough if he don't cater to a female wishes and b.s!This why you single!I've been dating outside my race for 30yrs plus and always found greater peace and less drama.Married a black woman to try to fit the cultural narrative only to married a gold digger wanna be city girl!So miss me with the idea it's about anyone else other than the person!Accountability Ladies
Lol this turned into a manosphere comment section quick😂
This video was Great in every way! Thank you so much for all the work & research you do!
Good Job Brother, this video nailed a whole bunch of interesting Taboo and lightly treaded Topics.
as a black woman, that sojourner truth factoid just knocked the wind out of me. like I had to sit down and catch my breath
thanks for the always incredible vids FD!! love ur work 💜✊🏾
Yeah. Just wow.
I immediately went to read the original speech vs the remake and Y'ALL. I actually screamed.
That’s white allies for ya…
What section was that? I think I missed that part while I was cooking
As an educated dark skin black woman with type 4 hair and attended PWI higher education. I’ve experienced more interest in relationships with me from non black men than black men. I still have a preference for black men because that’s who I grew up with and that’s what I’m familiar with but I’ll date anybody I’m attracted to if we are on the same wavelength. Shared connection and mutual interest in each other matters more to me than the race of my partner. But there are red flags unique to non black men that I have to pay attention to as a black woman especially exoticism/ fetishism that usually comes with oversexualization that I’ve not really experienced with black men
As a Black guy, fetishization was my only experience with white women, and ultimately shaped my decision to only date Black women. Like you said the experience with Black partners is far from perfect and has plenty of issues. But the issues and complications and dangers you have to be careful with are still less than when seeking a white partner.
I have a similar experience! Also, I am not opposed to black men by any means, but me not dating them is not for lack of trying! Dating is just hard, because even if the race box is checked there are hundreds of other boxes still. It’s not to say non-black men on average check more boxes either, it’s just *whoever* checks those boxes gets my time of day.
@@heyyitsjude nothing wrong with that! I know it wouldn’t be for a lack of trying unlike some Black folks who spend all their time just bashing other Black men and women while talking up white people. I just know that, for me, a Black soul is the only soul right for my life. That, and raising a Black family with Black children is super important to me.
Yes!!! This is what me and my black woman friends who went to PWIs experience
I’ll say it’s definitely easier to objectify/fetishize/not give a fuck about people that are not like you, because it’s harder to imagine yourself being on the wrong end of it. Those guys and we all need to recognize where our double standards are
I feel like the veil is getting pulled back for myself, recognizing the racial programming aspect. Love your content dude
the videos keep getting more awesome, and I have been inspired to start writing, the videos initially helped me regain my critical thinking during pandemmy and I am very grateful. These are difficult topics handled with grace and wisdom, FD is a great role model, and the crew is doing an excellent job editing.
The "ain't I a woman" fact is one of the reasons I appreciate your channel. The knowledge is immeasurable. Thank you!
You should read the book The Trouble with White Woman the author is a WW and expands even further on white feminist deliberately making black feminist sound more of their idea of "black" which was really less articulate. It deals with feminism and how WW have historically had the narrative about feminism. History consistently states women gain the right to vote in 1920 but the truth is WW gained the right to vote and sold out BW.
Yes, definitely learned something on that.
I feel like I knew this and forgot. What a great reminder! It's sad that the concept of intersectional feminism was brought up back then and we STILL out here reminding folks Black women exist 🙄
That book changed how I felt about myself before. It answers many questions I had as a young black woman trying to navigate why we are perceived the way we are. I came to understand that how people react to my appearance has nothing to do with me, it was never my fault - its a world disease. Nothing I do or don't do will stop it. I just have to keep on being better each and every day FOR MYSELF - although I will admit that some things were too traumatic for me and I had to stop reading it
That actually fucked me up. I learned about that speech in university in my gender class, IN THE LESSON ABOUT HOW WHITE FEMINISTS MISTREAT BLACK FEMINISTS and I'm hearing about it for the first time here? In a RUclips video?? Almost a year later??? I really don't know what to say but I'm pissed
One of my professors long ago was at a faculty cook-out and he is a fairly good looking older black man, most of his colleagues are white women because he works in education, and they were all gathered by some table speaking to one another. It was about 5 in total including him, and one of the women ask him where his wife was because they would love to meet her. He stated that she was in the restroom. A couple minutes later she was headed to where they were from a distance because of a hill. When he glances back to check, he sees her and points out to his colleagues that the woman coming down the hill was his wife. Another colleague not the first one to ask the question, says "that's your wife?" and he turns to say "yes", there is an awkward pause and then she states "we all thought your wife was white." he then asks her why she would think that and she said "because you are so successful at work and in the community." (And when I say awhile ago like early 2000s)
I'm sorry but..really???do people say this shift in real life
@@wrestlinganime4life288i don't know if they truly say it but i've seen it a lot that if the black dude has a "good life" the chance can be bigger that he has a non black wife next to him.
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@@wrestlinganime4life288yes, yes they do.
……..oh my god 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
Had anyone I know said that to me, I would disassociate myself with the person. A remark like that isn't even at the very least a back-handed compliment.
Thank you! I am gonna watch this again and totally soak it in! So nice to hear logical talk with evidence
Your content is wildly interesting and i love how you merge cultures, studies, and history. Thank you for the education as it will benefit my relationship with black friends that clearly have a very diverse worldview and history.
Im wasian and obviously my parents are in an interracial relationship. I really appreciate this video and while the issues facing interracial relationships in black communities are different I definitely feel some parallels with my view of them in Asian communities. I don’t like the fact that people (especially Asian people) will assume that my parents relationship must be toxic or problematic in some way just because my dad is white and my mom is Asian, but also I do have to acknowledge that the “preference” that some white men have for Asian women is often inextricably tied to racism and misogyny. And the “preference” of some Asian women to date exclusively outside their race is also fraught with disgusting opinions about Asian men that come from living in a white-centric society. I think it’s toxic to focus only on the women in this situation because ultimately they’re victims of objectification by mostly white men, but at the same time there are good reasons to criticize the behavior and look at the larger historical context, where Asian women are systemically objectified and Asian men are made out to be weak, effeminate and unattractive, for the interests of white people, particularly white men, to remain dominant.
To be fair most Asian women worship white men that’s just a fact at this point. I thought my Asian male friends were lying but I have seen it with my own eyes.
Almost every Asian woman I have met or befriended made it a point to tell me how much they don’t like Asian men. I’ve never met a white man doing the same about white women.
I think the ‘fetishization’ excuse is over blown. Most of the time it’s because Asian women want to get more proximity to whiteness. They don’t like being Asian. I wish people could just be honest about that.
It’s time to question why so many of them don’t like their own and decolonize those beliefs.
I'm black but I total agree it's sad and unsettling that Asian men are put down to cater to wm egos.
I totally get where you’re coming from. My mom is white my dad is taiwanese and I’ve almost never had any comments like you’ve had about your Asian mom/white dad… however as an Asian woman I get comments a ton (not from family) in the beginning stages if I’m dating anyone but an Asian guy and especially when I’ve dated black men - people just assume I’m being fetishized. And I’m hyper aware of it too. It used to cause a lot of insecurity in me when I was younger… not so much anymore. Now it’s just EXTREMELY annoying.
Also it happens way more when I date in the south compared to the west coast.
I will also add that I never ever get any comments about fetishization from anyone when I date women (they’ll say other stuff then). Mostly-not always- get them from men when I date men.
Fig making an hour-fifteen long video about why he wished his left hand were white so he can do a raceplay stranger was very unexpected, but I admire his candidness.
understanding the words in this comment requires knowledge no being should ever be cursed with knowing
He just wish he was white period
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@@largeproblemI'm sincerely trying to understand and empathize with the comment but...whats a raceplay stranger? 😂😂
@@chumajamesnxele106I need to know what this means too
I really fw this video, I learned things in more detail that I had an idea about but I was still some what ignorant about. Btw I'm black and I have Puerto Rican descent. My great-grandma is from the island but my grandma married a black man in the US. I'm really tryna learn the good, bad, and ugly about both of my histories/cultures you know. Honestly the media is so deceiving that I think everybody no matter race, ethnicity, gender etc... should sit down and educate themselves. IMO a lot of the misunderstanding and negativity comes when one side doesn't acknowledge or educate themselves on both sides of the argument especially if they only get their info from the media (wether it's the way they view black people or even this topic here). Only in a perfect world will that happen cuz there's always gonna be a ignorant person who just don't gaf bout nothin.
I didn’t know that I wanted a FD Signifier and SuperEyePatchWolf collab until now! Didn’t expect these two worlds to collide.
I remember when I brought home my Chinese gf my extended family making jokes about how I must prefer Asian women which I found kinda awkward, hope it wasn’t embarrassing for her. I wasn’t dating her because I sought out Asian girls exclusively. I was as open as I could be to anyone who wanted to talk to me, we just happened to keep talking the longest.
Caribbean people make jokes about exactly what’s on their mind, they don’t really hold back so I was kinda expecting some ribbing. Interracial dating isn’t as common on my Caribbean island just because there’s mostly black people and you’d think black Caribbeans would like black people more since most of the people in society they interact with are black, but no, they hate blackness to a degree just the same. Trust every other business owner before black owners, treat tourists better than their own, it’s a mess down there…
@@pinestraker4840I know. I'm born and brought up in the UK with parents from the Caribbean. I believe that they hate us the most and yes I've seen and been on the end of disrespectful treatment when I've travelled there.
People always gotta assume things about you when you date someone outside of your race/ethnicity.
My first long-term relationship was with a black man (I'm Mexican/Spanish). I've gotten the "you don't seem like some that would date a black guy" and covertly racist jokes from family and friends that I exclusively seek date black men for whatever reason.
Like you, I just happened to meet someone who I can talk to, be friends with, and took it from there.
I’m half Chinese and this has happened to me…. It was def embarrassing for her lol
Ugh. Stuff like this is so weird. I have 2 mixed parents. My mom has a weird relationship with her Blackness and would fawn over her (super heckin small barley worth mentioning) Nativeness fir the longest time. My dad is half Native. I went to a Native cultural summer school program for a couple years and when I was about 13 she told me to “meet a nice NDN boy to thicken the bloodline.” It was so icky on so many levels.
The part about black relationships being written in Hollywood as inherently problematic, ridiculously tragic (ie Game of Thrones) or borderline non-existent on the most watched TV shows was so on point. You rarely see two dark skinned black people in a loving, fully fleshed out relationship unless a black person is writing the script, which apparently there aren't enough of.
Yup and it's sad that I get excited when that actually is portrayed
This is so fucking true and I am so fucking tired of it
They really said 'one of them has to be lighter in complexion' I'm like: Why?
Damn so. brown sugar, love and basketball, the best man, and a gang of other movies don’t exist now?
@@PaidFamCap The topic was about the most popular TV shows, the shows that are getting the most viewership in total.
I wonder what would happen if a majority of y'all didn't watch these shows, maybe perhaps will they fall in line 🤔🤷🏾♂️
this video was informative as always, but i gotta confess, the bit of having eyepatch wolf read those titles was a highlight for me, laughed every time
You said some very challenging things in this video that I truly need to digest a little more! Thank you for your content!
When you come back with a new video and a fresh retwist, I already know it’s gon hit.
He really did cook with this one.
I had an unusual phenomena take place recently. I was approached by several WW on separate occasions that struck up a conversation with me. Each time a white dude popped up shortly after showing interest those women. So, I left. I also had a Black woman approach me with what appeared to be some interest. A white dude showed up then also with a mysterious interest in the Black woman. I saw the Black woman later on while the white dude wasn't around. The Black woman just stared at me as if she made a big mistake by engaging the white dude. I just smiled, waved and kept my distance 🤣
Having Supereyepatchwolf doing the title card narrations was an unexpected but hilarious crossover.
lowkey my favorite part of the video XD
It's ok, Irish people aren't white
At least not until they became cops in Amerikkka.
I said the same thing shit came out of no where but was hilarious 😂
I love all of this!
I'd love a bsides addendum of how non-sexual intimacy affects interracial relationships, too. I've seen people talk about it like "soft" or "tender" lives, and I'm fascinated how the non-sexual aspect is integrated.
Respect!!! I agree with everything you said in this video.
I know this is like a super minor thing, but Miles Morales is already a multi-racial character and it's an extremely important part of his character as he is one of the only explicitly Afro-Latino characters in almost any media. This part of his character (at least, it seems like to me, as one of those half white mom/half hispanic dad statistic) has always seemed to inform his openness with dating someone outside his race (as he has also dating Kamala Khan and Kate Bishop). [Love the videos!]
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I've tried telling my friend, who is Nuyorican himself, that in doing so they didn't really make Miles black.
No shade to anyone involved with the character in any way, but to call him a "black" Spider-Man automatically "irrelevates" his PR side, and would likely make fans of that background feel some kind of way.
Also, to me it's simply another case of half-stepping concerning black racial representation like they did when they failed to make Prince Naveen of the Princess and the Frog some idenfitiable black person.
I know what I've said comes across as SJWy, but they are trying to show representation and this is that type of video, so I felt it to be warranted.
I will always give props for progress, no matter how incremental, however we must acknowledge that there's holes where there are holes and more can and should be done where reasonable.
As an afro Hispanic. Yeah.
As a Puerto Rican, I get annoyed how little of that identity is really represented by Miles. But the thing about his character that really gets me is the fact that his father is a cop. You can't tell me that a Black or Brown writer would have made Miles' dad a police officer in the climate he was created in (Brian Michael Bendis was the original creator).
Also, it doesn't make sense that his last name is Morales unless it's his father's last name. Miles' parents are together, and our culture is pretty patriarchal--it's weird/out of the ordinary that Miles would take his mother's last name and not his father's. Which implies his father is Afro-Latino too, but he's not portrayed as such.
I wonder if Spiderverse will address this, since the Miles we see at the end seems to have a stronger grasp on Spanish than the mainline Miles we've followed in the narrative thus far. But as long as they don't do anything too stupid concerning his identity I'm down for Miles. Who got a more fire suit than him?
@@edwileo5660 i've read a theory about Miles last names that basically states a possible reason for Miles to having mothers last name instead of his dad's, is because his dad might've been involved in crime when he was younger along with uncle Aaron. So when Miles was born he got his mothers last name instead of his fathers since his dad's image wasn't the best the best at the time. This is also why theres such a rift between Aaron and Miles dad as Miles dad eventually became a cop to support his son and wife. It's just a theory but personally i view it as canon as i think it sets a lot into context
I’ve definitely noticed the IR relationships in advertising a LOT recently. It’s like every ad executive everywhere realized simultaneously that having an interracial relationship in an ad aims the ad at two separate groups AND makes the company appear more progressive all in one simple TV spot. It’s a super efficient and effective to synergize some positive attitudes towards your company without actually really doing anything! 👍
Exactly! It panders to more consumers without alienating anyone. Notice there are no conservative boycotts of products for featuring multiple ethnicities? All of their anger is focused on cultural bigotry (anti-trans, anti-gay, anti-progressive, etc) not racial. Progress is slow, but take the token inclusion of interracial couples in the media as a step forward in culture (even if tokenism is cringe worthy).
I mean that’s always gonna be the case unfortunately, advertisers in this damn country are always paying attention to what people are doing whether it’s on social media real life or events. IR are just another way they can market to a broader audience while improving their image which is important in advertising.
Absolutely especially on TV shows. Its baffling how IRR have become the defaults for a lot of black characters in media especially cartoon
Surprise surprise, reactionary talking points in comments on an FD video. Im surprised how many people are openly disdainful of interracial relationships on “the left”.
@@ultravioletiris6241That’s not what I meant by my comment at all. I’m a white guy who has dated black women so I have no problem with the concept of interracial dating whatsoever. I was just pointing out that advertisers who feature interracial relationships in their ads are probably not especially sincere in their apparent support for it and are just trying to make some extra money and improve the company’s image.
I watched the whole thing. You did a great job with this.
Straight facts, knowledge and information. FD always drops 30💯💯
As the white partner of a black person, goddamn I am always so grateful for videos like this because I do not want my relationship with my partner to be me relying on them to help me figure my shit out when I'm trying to think about issues like this.
Thank you for doing your research. Keep at it. ❤️
Listen. Respect to you for doing the work.
Same. Definitely it's not our black partner's responsibility to educate us. I kinda hate when someone says I'm married to a black person, so I'm not racist. You can still have some anti black views without realizing it.
Hey F.D. Thank you for talking about my familys' heritage and story. I'm a 6th generation descendant of Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings. Our story has been told countless ways and even within our own family there are different opinions on the nature of their relationship. I'd love to have a chance to talk to you more about how their story has been twisted over time and why it is still controversial to this day. I'd love to get your opinion on how this story has been adapted over time and what work is left to be done. I love your content!
*Can ya'll please like this comment so F.D. can see this? And comment if you'd be interested in F.D. talking more about Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings. 😀
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Definitely an interesting topic
Also, shouts to your ancestor for making macaroni and cheese blow up. America thanks you! 😁
@@iluminati My great-great-great-uncle James Hemings! haha
Absolutely fantastic video!!
Thanks. That was in-depth. Lots of food for thought.
i was kinda scared to watch this ngl, being mixed myself. but you did a great job of tackling this subject. i was forced to stop being friends with a kid in 1st grade because her mom, who was black, didnt like the fact that my mom(also black) was with a white guy. then years later i learned a lot of my moms coworkers who were also black didnt like the idea of race mixing, which left me feeling a certain way for a long time. i talked with these ladies on a face to face basis and gifted me quite a few things for holidays and stuff, so it was very hurtful. but i got a better understanding of where they were coming from now... it just sucks that this was their conclusion.
not to mention on my mom's side, one of my great aunts gifted me a doll the summer after 1st grade too, but with a catch. i had to choose between a white and black doll. i repressed the memory until a few years ago and now it haunts me when shit like this comes up. its a sore spot for sure so i appreciate you approaching it in this way.
😮My goodness…
the doll... sending love.
Wow.. im so sorry. thats so strange.
That's like, a scene from a dark TV drama.
This!!! As a mixed person, this conversation is always tough for me. I understand the need to have it but it always feels like my existence is called into question. I'm wishing for a time in the future when this conversation is no longer necessary.
Something that I never though about until the Spider-verse section is the value provided by Cody Ziglar in his current Miles Morales run with working with other prominent Black super heroes like Misty Knight and Blade. While Miles personal life has always had significant Black characters, as a super hero he's never really depicted interacting prominently with other Black super heroes. So to see Miles looking up to and learning from those characters as role models provides a dimensionality to his life that was sorely lacking, and I'm glad that Ziglar was able to tell these stories.
Honestly I don’t get why he picked Misty of all people. They’ve barely interacted in the comics. I would have picked Luke but he’s mayor now.
I thought about. I actually stopped reading his book because of his non -interaction, but was pleasantly surprised to see that changed
Man, this was such a thoroughly enjoyable and informative watch. It was a short bit, but your mentioning of Queer representation in Media tripped me up so hard and has given me so much to think about. Im Queer and took the bait from the marketing folks. Thank you for giving me so much to reflect on
I was always skeptical bout getting into interracial relationships. As a black guy, i personally do not like the idea of being fetishised and that is the vibe i get when i interact with non black women, particularly white women. Its the look they give you like you're a piece of meat. Like they're almost hoping for you to fulfil most of the stereotypes they have in their head about you. Its sickening. I feel it would be better and easier to stick with a woman who will understand your plight, your culture, your experiences etc.
This is exactly how I feel as a black man as well.
Same here 🖐🏿
I have the same feeling too. However, I get this vibe from mostly non-black Latinas. SMH🤦🏾♂️!
Same
Tried getting with one once. Only once, just didn’t feel right.
One thing thats always struck me as weird about the represenation of interacial couples is how few representations seek to celebrate the clash of cultures. Having grown up around different things, hearing different music, eating different foods, having different tastes in art and decor. These can be wonderful things about being in an interacial couple.
I'm a white guy. I've dated and been in relationships with many black women.
Most of the time I really didn't find any huge culture gap to overcome. Sometimes. I found to be more pronounced the less educated they were. But when they were or are more educated and most importantly a curious person by nature we would just go out and have experiences together and laugh and enjoy eachothers company. No thought about race seemed to pop up. And occasionally we might make a race based joke about about each other. But as long as it was funny we'd laugh.
That was my experience with most of these women.
personally i never thought of it much, my partner is white and im black but a part of why we've worked so well is due to all the similarities we share, there just isnt alot of differences to discuss in our case.
Not always a culture clash, if u draw to similiar types. Music might be different but you dont have to listen to thier music.
Funny, never had issues in my world, they were there. Just not like today. Im dark , and mama of my child got skin that dont tan and reddish hair and freckles. Had a pretty child. Not together for years now, just mentioning it
Surface relationship 😢
THIS VIDEO MADE ME SUBSCRIBE!! Love your content. Please keep it up ✊🏾🙏🏾
Great video. I love how it ended.
FD making John uncomfortable by making him read those titles is my favorite thing
I'm a half black, half Mexican woman. Conversations about biracial people never include people like me because it only matters if one of the parents are white. I get pissed, but also understand that if ever there is any awareness, it probably won't be positive. No news is good news.
Make your own video?
It's free?
@@MrisaVigilshe's just expressing herself and no it's absolutely not free it costs time, labor, and possibly even equitment. And that still doesn't guarantee discourse or attention which is what he comment is clearly implying she never sees. Why you hating and bitter?
I appreciate that. Im a Black woman and my partner is Mexican. I never see couples like us.
There are some conversations, especially online, about "exoticals" which certainly includes this often beautiful combination.
This is the best distillation of interracial relationships I’ve heard thus far. Job well done with the video-as I learned a lot. The statistics near the end of the video was very telling-especially the part that where white men married to black women are less likely to end in divorce. I think the main reason for that is because white men and black women don’t step out their race often when dating-so when they do hook up for the long haul, they’re genuinely in love with each other-much of the time. All too often black men feel a need to show out when they have a white woman on their shoulders-where it seems that so many of them hook up with them for “bragging rights” rather than love-but not in all cases however. So the biggest takeaway from this is when you decide to date interracially is; Are you doing it out of love? Or do you have an ulterior motive emotionally?-that has nothing to do with mutual love with that partner. Great video once again👍🏾
What a gold nugget to learn about the title of sojourner truth's famous poem. Excellent commentary!!
I'm a 33 yo gay black men. I don't think I've ever seen a commercial featuring a black queer couple before. The overrepresentation of interracial couples in media is incessant and honestly ridiculous. We all see it. We all feel it. Great video as always!
There’s actually a Christmas one from Etsy. A black gay couple are at a family gathering together.
"ummm technically they made commercials for moonlight so checkmate" /s
Unfortunately the only commercials I’ve seen are for the HIV medications.
Yeah u have to look for them,
@@gphjr1444which is so distasteful if we're being honest
Coming from a young African man, who as a child, grew up in multiple white communities as my father was in the military and I moved around a lot, I didn’t have a clear idea of what Black culture looked like outside the media I consumed. I watched a lot of TV when I was younger, specifically Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. And looking back, I noticed that there were very few, let alone, accurate representations of Black culture in the programming as a lot of it seemed stereotypical or just had a lack of substance to what it actually is. However the one show that always stood out to me was The Proud Family, which did address real social issues within not only the Black community but in society as a whole. Turns out the show was created by a Black man and goes to show that it is important to have people involved in these movies and TV shows that actually understand and appreciate the cultures that they’re highlighting rather than adding a diverse character with no substance just solely for “inclusion” and “representation”.
It's their media. They aren't obligated to include a race of people they've historically been at economic and literal war with.
I'm of the opinion tv and movies are mostly just shallow, quick money schemes and very little that gets produced seems to me to have a greater purpose then past the initial box-office sales I ask myself this: is film somehow closer today then they have been in the last 100 years, to making film that won't be lost in the trash heap, sort of like those top 100 best sellers of 1970 (but at least those didn't cost millions of dollars each)? Me personally I think no. I find film desperate, unflattering, narcissistic, delusional and at worst propaganda for the you know who. That being said I still implied I consider it still a work in progress and of course it effects the conciousness of us. Probably not as much as we think but I also think more importantly we do need to pay more attention to directors like Spike Lee. I think in 100-200 years he'll still be worth discussing. It's more than the moment, something profoundly human shines through in his work and truly grateful for that.
Movies are not get rich quick money schemes. Movies are used by Hollywood as propaganda and a transmitter of the superiority of White men and women as well as the traits of lesser races. That simple. Once you notice that the Black father figure/leader dies early for the 5000th time you really lose interest in western media.@@doclime4792
I wouldnt expect you to understand Black culture because its not your culture. We just share a skin color 🤷♀
@@bluesneakersthat’s what…they said right…?
I really enjoy your videos and have great respect for you. thanks for doing what you do
Interesting video ... Lots of info to consider & think about & that's surely a good thing ... Always open to listening to and considering various perspectives...
Appreciate your video ...
Thank you so much. I didn't even realize how much of my baggage when it comes to this topic stems from romanticizing interracial relationships as being something progressive and "wholesome" or as a deep and intimate Romeo and Juliet story. Now I can finally start unlearning my fixation on this rosey sapphic fantasy of star-crossed love and try to just love people like a normal person. It's embarrassing how obvious it seems now but I'm very grateful you finally made that click for me.
'Hey shawty what it is ' to 'Liscense and registration, please' is one of the best phrases ever!! Another great analysis
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I laughed so hard😂😂😂😂
I like your video essays. They help me see the world from a different perspective.
I love your work, please keep at it as long as you want to
Black and Indigenous history is always so hard to learn more about. It's full of the most inhumane and gruesome stories one could think of. It breaks my heart every time.
Thank you for your videos. I'm learning much from them.
There's probably better stories and events to learn about within that scope. The problem with any black and any indigenous history is that it only ever seems to be nothing more than the documentation of the European's interactions with them. Hence violence and/or bullshit bias.
@@righteouslioncomedian1069 this is so real. The only ideal from the right wing scope that I agree with is the topic of slavery/racism be scrutinized to fit in more representation about black American culture & pre colonial Africa. Seeing woman king made me cry because I realized it was the first time I ever got insight into how my ancestors lived prior colonialism. It was beautiful and eye opening.
That's what makes it world history. The gruesomeness often comes in when colonization and eurocentricity does.
Oh, balance it out with learning about Black and indigenous inventors! ❤ It's so inspiring and amazing! The furnace, CCTV security, fax machines, the mop, the traffic light, the water gun, the ice cream scoop, and soooooo much more...all invented by "Black" folks.
... don't look too far into where the money and manufacturing went or you might get back to the sad stuff. 😅
Always remember that there is a fine line between being in an intimate partnership with a person, REGARDLESS of that person's race VS being in an intimate partnership with a person BECAUSE of that person's race. Do with that knowledge how you see fit.
is "fine line" the best way to put it? i feel like you know what you're doing if you do one or the other. like you're just a person vs you like someone bc they're black or whatever race i mean they're very different things actually lol
@@wishingwell_333you make no sense.
@@GentleBreeze-ib9dz it happens sometimes idk if you meant to be rude or jus tell me i don't make sense but yeah oops my bad what was the point of your comment even lol
@@GentleBreeze-ib9dz it made sense to me. They're saying it's not really a "fine" line at all.
I would disagree that it's a fine line. They're two completely different things. People who don't generally approve of interracial relationships like to _say_ it's a fine line but as evidenced by this comment section, those people like to say all kinds of questionable things.
Great stuff mate
You had me agreeing until 39 minute mark. Black love is phenomenal and radical and everything that it is in opposition of what you share because it’s so much harder and most important to preserve in its existence. It’s completely cohesive, and a successful result of what could happen if we had a sustainable society to create strong black families regardless of classism and gender. Black love is something to attain and aspire for.
This!!! At this point, black love is radical. It’s not a normal or basic thing and I feel to stay unbiased and along with the ‘all people can cheat and have good or bad relationships’, the tone went down the wrong direction to stay ‘equal’ but I agree with you. Black love is hope for an equal, progressive future.
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I’m starting to see black love as somthing similar to the ideas that Jewish people have about building their own community’s and supporting other Jewish folk, they actually have a word in Hebrew for specifically going out of your way to support a Jewish business even if a non Jewish business is offering a better or more convenient service to you
So what you are saying is "black love" is no different than any other "type" of love, yes?
Ok now say words that mean things
“Put them out the house” when talking about ones own children is probably one of the most unloving things one could say
Parents take advice about their kids from the wrong people.
I’m a goth half black/half white dude but I’m actually pretty dark and I’ve found that because of my outwardly goth-alt appearance, black women want nothing to do with me, but goth white women also want nothing to do with me because they’re so used to dating and seeing white men and faces within goth culture. It’s a weird one that’s left me without any dating options even though I’m tall and what people would call stereotypically attractive.
I wanted to say "Go Asian" but I then remembered the spirit of this essay by Fiq. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 So I'll keep it at, keep striving and focus on life... you'll find what you're looking for, eventually. Good day.
As a goth black girl myself, I can honestly say the dating scene can be weird, you’ll find what you’re looking for stranger. Don’t stress.
In my experience, 'artsy' black chicks and/or white chicks outside the goth world may embrace you. Keep looking, Queen Bubba is out there. 🤝🏽👍🏽💯
Maybe the you should end the “Goth” phase 🤷🏽♀️
I'm a metal head, woman. It's been ruff, black dudes just laugh at me and call me "manly"
just wanted to say that this was really valuable to me as an artist when you broke down the severe overabundance of interracial couples in media. it’s absolutely something i’m going to keep in mind and be very intentional about going forward. my genuine hope when i make anything is to create something authentic and meaningful and not just Product for someone to consume, and learning more about the world around me and shattering my preconceived notions of how things work helps me do that. i’m probably being really awkward and corny about this so i’ll shut my trap now, but i wanted to put out a genuine thank you for that information. i always feel like i learn something new from all of your videos and i truly appreciate it every time. much love to you and yours. ❤
Thank u for this video
As a white man the subject of anti-blackness is probably the hardest part for conservatives to accept. When I talked with conservatives they always see racism as a switch not a slider. That’s how they get away with this double think that “they” are not racist. Since they don’t actively hate black people they can’t be racist. This is why what Texas and Florida are doing is so terrible.
People seeing issues as "switch not a slider" as you say is a huge crux of most political discourse these days. It's alarming.
THIS is a major problem in Portland! Especially because we consider ourselves so progressive. As soon as you challenge their bias, suddenly black people are "victimizing themselves" and "taking it all the wrong way"
@@SipMyCharlatte they call black people victims as a way to distract and deflect on certain issues when people say stuff like that i talk about black issues even more some people can't stand to look in the mirror and not see a perfect angel
I respectfully disagree. As a white man (which having to disclose that is problematic in and of itself and is a marker of just how hyper-racialized society has become, but particularly on the left) I was a longtime liberal SJW type and even have a Masters degree in Race and Rhetoric-- I am now a conservative since about 3 years ago. First, I reject this generalization and stereotype of conservative people as being anti-black. It's inaccurate, dishonest, and silly. In fact, the most racist people I have ever met come from the left. Conservatives are the group that wants people treated on the basis of the character and not on the melanin in their skin. I can't say the same for the left. And yes, we do see racism in an active sense (or the "switch" as you call it), because we have seen how grossly overapplied the "sliding" method, in which you mean "spectrum", has been used. Basically, calls of "Racism" have been so distorted and used in the most ridiculous ways that it has lost its power. This is a simple communication theory concept that the more you use the term the more diluted it becomes. In today's climate EVERYONE is racist all the time, no matter what you say or do and so people don't care anymore about getting called one. We don't take it seriously anymore. The extrapolation of meaning where none is intended is farcical and it is the reason why black conservatives are one of the fastest growing demographics in America. I believe much of the black community is sick and tired of the "blame the white man for everything" narrative and are starting to go back to some of the original great black thinkers like Malcolm X, MLK, Thomas Sowell, etc. Because they all focus on personal responsibility, culture, and community. Race relations have NEVER BEEN WORSE in the last 30-40 years and that is directly the fault of CRT, BLM, and the hyper fixation of race. Conservatives are happy to talk about, recognize, and correct REAL instances of racism. But, if you just want to whine and complain about how skittles are a racist candy because there is not a black skittle, please see yourself out, we don't have time for that nonsense. Stop the victimization, it's not a good look especially in a country where you have every single right and opportunity afforded to you as any other person. As you said, look in the mirror first before wanting to place blame at someone else's feet.
@@SquirtlePower809 I mean, just the fact that you can go on conservative news sites that have comment sections and see a clear abundance of unquestionably racist comments (often times upvoted a fair bit too) says a lot.