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Yikes video, do better
hi
Jubilee please make a video on the Transracial and RCTA community
@@jubilee this is garbage
Y’all did a terrible job choosing true light skin people. They are mostly brown skin & we do not have the same experiences that high yellow light skin people have..
Let’s be real though..a dark skin man’s experience is different from a dark skinned woman’s experience
@kena6984 Yes, I really thought it was going to be females who represent different versions of dark and light skin. Then they would have done a male version as a part 2.
Very
100%. Dark skin is seen as a masculine trait. That’s inherently beneficial to black men. Black women, due to Eurocentric beauty standards, can be labelled as angry, aggressive, mean- when really they’re upset, passionate, headstrong. Even positive labels like strong or independent can be to their detriment. Look at how black women are less likely to be helped in a public emergency, or believed to be in pain by a doctor.
yeah but they have one thing in common... they both been oppressed 💔
Facts 💯
Orange shirt said he is no longer colorist and continued to over compensate that by giving corny compliments BUT when 1 of the dark skin women attempted to express how she and most Dark skin Black women dont benefit from colorism he immediately went in to defend Black mens perceived privilege and over talk her 😒 He is absolutely still colorist
Pay him no mind. He just wants, hotep or not, to be on camera. 🤦🏽♂️
Literally
don’t think that count as colorist… but yea i picked up on that too and it’s definitely weird lowk sexist for mocking her, saying black women dont suffer more from colorism when she’s giving statistics not opinions but i might be reaching idk
@@asapluvrmonique3961 it actually does fall under colorism as he sees her as less than due not only her sex but her skin tone which is why he felt so emboldened to over step
He really comes across as disingenuous the whole video to me 😒 even when he said he apologized to his sister when he needed her. Boy bye!
The woman with the locs articulates her thoughts very well
Yeah I think I love her.
Super proud of her
Love her ❤
Loved her
Yeah I found her on ig months ago and I clicked this video bc I saw her in the thumbnail!
Orange shirt is insufferable. He cuts everyone off like what he has to say is so much more important than everyone else.
Yet, he seems the most insecure about his blackness😖
It had to be the men in the group
teach me finance
He just said super odd things as well. “The sun was made for you” Huh?! He was doing too much.
damn he anooying af same with the big girl whos not even lightskin
Black men like Orange Shirt will say all that “Black is beautiful” stuff and in the same breath exclusively only date non-Black and light skinned Black women.
Something about him seems performative
For Charles, this was an audition. The thirst is real.
If we say something positive we get bashed, if we say something negative we get bashed. I’m just going to start flagging these toxic black females.!
😂Gay alert
@@dnatest585 Ngl I thought the dude might’ve been gay as well 🥴
Swearrrrr
The orange shirt guy was acting like the hollywood stereotype of a white guy amongst black people hahah
THIS COMMENT NEEDS TO BE FURTHER UP
Spot on 😂
Black people are not a monolith. Why you have to label him as a white acting.
Yess 🤣😭! He overcompensated a bit tooo much with his “compliments”. Kinda like those white people who overcompensate too much to show you they’re not racist lmao
Exactly
"my niece says she wants straight hair and i'm like where is she getting that from" while wearing a straight hair wig is pretty ironic
The irony some of these people just wanna be validated or complimented on here let’s be real
💯
That part 😂
*"straight hair wig"*
She's a "special one" in general. Watches baddies, admitted she would regularly come to work late for two years straight. So I'm not surprised. So glad to see more black women in general embrace wearing natural hair. Been seeing it more in recent years.
Okay but why are we not talking about Hanna??? She’s so pretty and her complexion is so smooth!
Yeah she’s so cute ❤
Beautiful
i love that they were constantly showering her with nice words. not often for dark skins to hear it
whenever someone compliments a darkskin women its the same played response seems not genuine
My heart broke when she said she almost lightened her skin😢
Conversation was great except orange shirt guy was just too overwhelming 😭😭
He doesn't feel genuine , he's trying so hard to stand out , too performative
He trying to push an agenda
He was so annoying/extra and his sassy veil was lifted the longer he spoke. The lady with the locs was irritating his “I Feeeel” demons with her facts and intelligence❤
to me it just seemed like he’s been waiting so long to have conversations like this. idky everyone keeps saying he’s “weird” i get the same way when talking about something i’m passionate about. Though for orange shirt guy, he kept forgetting everyone’s experience is different and thats why red shirt and the lady with locs, had to check him a bit.
he was annoying bruh 😭
The lady with the dreads is so refreshing !!
*locs ❤
@@dwise2165I was about to write this
@@dwise2165 it’s the same thing -from a jamaican
@@chrizzc1910”dreads” have a negative connotation and was was coined from the hairstyle being “dreaded” by white americans
@@KJ-tb8jz You mean like the N word and how we took power back from that word? Us saying dreads is completely fine!!!
i don’t understand why people say that jubilee is pushing boundaries.. they’re discussing valid topics that DONT get discussed often and yes it may raise an eyebrow but im more than glad that they’re open with it because too many channels censor stuff, people need to stop being so sensitive damn .
They just hate a video being centered around black people
*Some whiny people are too pee wee brained on the internet these days because they prefer not to embrace these discussions that never get discussed often.*
Trus
I understand what you’re saying, and fully agree with you on everything except the last part. A lot of their titles seem to be for rage bait, and people usually end up not even having a useful discussion and act immature so people engage with the video more. I think this video is a lot better than their other middle ground videos though.
@@itsmeact369 however in this case, that didn’t happen🤷🏽♀️ the title was exactly how the conversation was and it was actually quite enlightening x
I like the girl in the grey shirt !!she's honest admitting that light skin people are treated better.
yhhh
Lol treated by who?
treated "better" by whom? And what is better?
@@marie-francoiset9402 literally by everyone,even other black ppl.
I follow her and the dark skin woman with locs on TikTok! I love their videos
Charles X makes me uncomfortable with these skin comment he frequently makes towards the dark skinned ladies. It feels like he's overcompensating. It's so cringe.
Yup and this motherflower was auditioning for next season’s “Love Is Blind”.
That's definitely something I've experienced as a dark-skin woman. I haven't finished the video yet so idk if they touch on this...but as a dark skinned woman I feel like I'm always either looked over for fetished. There's little in between
Sometimes we read too much into things and make people who are really trying to be genuine villians.
that chef kiss was weird.
@@shana100mckday And sometimes ppl like Charles give a sufficient amount of reasons for others to formulate a negative opinion of them.
Girl in stripy pants in ON FIRE with her points and communication skills - I do not know what her academic background is but she reminds me of some of the best PhDs I have worked with in the social sciences. Pragmatic, emotionally intelligent and highly specific in her choice of words and expressions + challenges people when they put words in her mouth.
Absolutely agree
I follow her on TikTok and I feel like I’m in a class. She really teaches I hope to see her more.
@@ashpie22hey do u mind putting her @ below ?❤
Can you please tell me her username @@ashpie22
@@ashpie22 what's her TikTok?
I wish there would be a more specific debate like light skinned black women vs dark skinned black women or light skinned black men vs dark skinned black men. Because the experience of colorism is very different depending on the gender.
I agree!!
Yes that would be interesting.
Also different base on features A Beautiful Black light and dark is different from and average or below average person
THISSSSSS
Yes lightskin black men are treated like feminine pretty boys and black women think men look better dark…meanwhile the men they prefer usually think women look better lighter
Orange shirt was my least favorite. Trying to argue someone down about their experience while making the same point about himself is weird
FACTS it legit drove me insane
Dude in the orange shirt said he didn’t understand how colorism is more rampant in the black community yet he’s the one starting all the arguments??
Thank you! A straight damn clown!
The term "colorism" means from w/in the community, so I didn't even get his point.
I would love to do this with White Latino vs Brown Latinos
Or Americans who speak the language of their heritage (Spanish) as an example vs. the ones whose parents are Spanish speakers but didn’t teach their kids to speak it. That would be interesting.
Yes me too
Yes!
I would like to see one with white/light skin Latinos vs Black Latinos
white latinos vs afro latinos/brown latinos
Charles gives major ick. Dark skin and light skin are beautiful but he makes it weird by overcompensating and almost fetishizing dark skin women as the "prototype". And he said their skin is always perfect and never gets pimples?? Huh?? Hopefully he continues to grow in his journey
@ExoticalsRevenge-b8v this is exactly what it is.
the no pimples comment was definitely something WEIRD LOOOL. it's like he was desperately scrambling for something positive to say about dark skinned people.
@ExoticalsRevenge-b8v he's overcompensating for a lack of attraction for himself. I believe that he is trying to condition himself to love himself by overdoing the compliments and research. Ultimately, thats why these type of discussions are important. Some people can relate to him and some people can observe, so that we can be more empathetic to people who have experiences like his. He was a little awkward but he is a representation of many white standard oppressed people finding their light again.
Actually he said there’s a particular type pf dark skin, the really dark skin like the girl from senegal, that never gets pimples. Also, as the first peoples dark skinned people are the prototype. Yall seem triggered by someone having a positive view of dark skin. Weird
@@iysow2937 beautifully said. Compassion like this is needed!!!
My family used to tell me “The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice” and I heard it so much that it definitely helped me fight external colorist forces.
Does that by any chance make you look at people who aren't as black not as sweet?
@@whatoh3407bruh😭
@@whatoh3407 I'm light-skinned and I've heared that quote a lot. That quote is meant to uplift people with darker complexion. There's no reason to turn it into an insult. If it doesn't apply to you then don't put yourself in it.
@@des_elise While it's intended as a positive affirmation for people with dark skin, it's possible for some to interpret it as excluding or diminishing those with lighter skin tones. Inclusivity and sensitivity to different experiences and feelings are important when discussing topics related to race and appearance. Celebrating diversity means recognizing and valuing all shades and tones, ensuring that no one feels diminished or excluded. It's important to acknowledge and respect how phrases affect different individuals. Do you understand that language and expression can have different impacts on people depending on their personal experiences and perspectives?
@@whatoh3407That's the thing though, that isn't the only uplifting quote about skin tone. There are others depending on what skin tone you have. There's nothing wrong with celebrating differences.
i live for chrys eating charles x up😭😭😭 he’s doing way too much to overcompensate for his past colourism
Is that what it is? Did he almost get cancelled or something?
I think he has unaddressed issues of misogynoir. He has issues with darker skinned Black women and he didn't seem to like that the woman with the locs was more intelligent than him
@@SaintJawnhe explained it in the vid, said he used to tease his sister for darker skin
Orange shirt guy is so weird how he keeps saying things like “the sun was made for you Hanna”…like wtf 😭
Edit: Being weirded out and offended are two totally different things…a lot of you missed comprehension in your language arts classes 🥴
He should just treat them normally and not like an exotic animal
His glazing strared to feel really weird
He also said the sun is made for all black people including himself in 39:08. y'all just looking for something to be offended by
@@ssteffniihe said it about himself too
Lol I don’t think it’s weird. He’s pouring into her bc he knows that’s not a common thing for ppl who are of a darker complexion. Kinda what Chrys said earlier in the conversation about her mother complimenting her all the time because she knew the world would not. If you get what I mean.
Chrys did not come to play and i really appreciate that
She always had something to back up her statements & never invalidated someone's feelings while still stating facts
Chrys 👑
I love her. I’ve been following her on tik tok for a while now.
Chrys DON’T play and I love it
I love her. When I saw Chris and cailene in the thumbnail, I clicked so fast
Chrys has the range and the knowledge to really dive deep into this topic. I loved her commentary.
Idris Alba, Chadwick Boseman, Daniel Kaluuya, John David Washington all get positive representation tf is he talking about
Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Don Cheadle, Forest Whitaker, Sidney Poitier, Wesley Snipes, etc , etc, etc I mean come on
I didn't understand his point here, it's much easier to name positive black male representation compared to positive black female representation.
Certain black men like to compete with us rather than acknowledge and uplift us in our struggle. They emasculate themselves when they do this.
John Boyega too
@@CalliemariieEXACTLY!!!
Dude in the orange shirt was odd 💀 being mad uncomfortable with the dark skinned people
Seems like the type to call himself a "creative" just based on the way he was speaking in this video.
I'm just baffled they said light-skin people don't experience colorism. Like, WHAT?! How would you know, you aren't even light-skinned! There's so much prejudice I experienced about being light-skinned, it's ridiculous. Not only is it used as a mean of questioning my intelligence, but also my validity as a black person. "We experience prejudice based on our color, but it's not colorism." WHAT?!?!??!??!?!??!
@@morningivyThe definition of colorism is “prejudice or discrimination against individuals with a dark skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group”. Some definitions include the preferential treatment of light skin.
Ism is a noun that refers to an ideology, oppressive system, or a belief. In other words, colorism isn’t an oppressive system toward light skin people. Colorism isn’t the belief that light skin is below dark skin. All is true in reverse.
Looking at history and present day colorism is an oppressive system toward darker skin. It is the belief that darker skin is below light skin. It is the belief that light skin is deserving of preferential treatment. And we see it play out in society in many different ways.
This isn’t to say that light skin people don’t face their own issues because they do.
@@KayTalkNYCit ain’t that deep ngl
@@KayTalkNYC To me, colorism is just prejudice based on color, which anyone can experience. There's even colorism in the white community with eye color and hair color. "Discrimination based on skin tone, also known as colorism or shadeism, is a form of prejudice and discrimination in which people of certain ethnic groups, or people who are perceived as belonging to a different-skinned racial group, are treated differently based on their different skin tone."
orange dude is unbelievably corny
He's too much
I got tired of the glazing
How?
@@jeffersonhassan4558if you cant see it u probably relate to him hehe
@@angel_ethereal he literally said it about himself too so nice try
I see a lot of people in the comments talking about how beautiful Hanna is, dark skin smooth and glistening, etc. She is, for sure, but more that that, I love how eloquent and intelligent she is. You can tell shes been thru a lot but she's put in the work and anyone blessed to be in her periphery will benefit from that.
thank you for saying this, as a dark skin it can be jarring seeing everyone go from one far extreme to another . Compliments are nice but it still continues the idea that all people see when they look at us is unique dark skin. And sometimes it feels like pity tbh, like "oh im gonna compliment you bc you probably dont get them often" , which sucks. I just want to be seen as a regular human and treated as one too, I bet other dark skin girls can relate.
The women Chrys with the locs sound highly educated 🥹🥳
Her tiktok is 🔥 ❤ Love her!!!
Because she is. like she knows her words and got class too. just like Hanna who is very soft spoken Love them two
She seemed angry all the time until someone told her that her hair is beautiful poor girl needs validation
Yep she so beautiful and highly educated
From a liberal perspective, yes.
But like she said, she's insufferable, and she knows it.
Guy in orange didn’t wanna be associated with dark skin 🤣
He looks like he bleaches 😭
😂😂😂he was distancing himself, then appointed himself as an in-between representative for "brown skins"
@@nimokariuki6069 and you know it lol
😂😂😂😂
and the big girl i doubt she benefits from lightskin priviledge
Dude in the orange needs serious therapy and learn how to control his emotions so he can articulate his views in a effective way. Everything is not an attack.
Thissssss... You read him 📖 like a book.
off topic, you are so gorgeous
…..unfortunately….a lot of “dark skin” people always feel attacked. Some of them are staying in the victim mindset.
@@sunkissed_potatoewhat does he being dark skinned have to do with anything that the main comment said?
@@hearts4_princessabsolutely….thats why I commented my opinion…people get defensive when they feel attacked. It’s not a “mean” statement. It’s what I’ve observed.
Charles made it awkward, and I'm glad Chrys was there to maintain and restore balance and SENSE! 💚
i love cailen & chrys, i didn’t think i’d ever see them on a jubilee episode 😭
Hehehehehe I love u too !
@@caileneasely ahhhh 😭🫶🏽!!!
Same I love them both!
@@caileneaselyI know y’all were clockin Charles’ self-hating self 😭
Do you know there socials medias ?
The guy is orange is annoying.
I hate people who throw out over the top compliments in these conversations because it takes away from the seriousness of the conversation.
Very performative
It also almost sounds like fetishizing
he's giving toxic masculinity hidden under a ''nice guy'' act. The way he was shutting down the dark-skinned black women... WHEN SHE WAS SPEAKING FAAACTS !!
Charles also said dark skin people don’t get burned in the sun and that’s not true at all! The sun burns all human skin! darker skin doesn’t hold more sun prone properties. If it did then how would it benefit dark skin? It would have no effect at all. The sun gives us all vitamin D, as human beings. The sun was made for us all UVB rays help every human produce vitamin D. Dude was trying to sound smart & was just sounding very obsessive over darker skin.
@@MayMayboris when was that, when he said colorism must be addressed by black people themselves instead of crying about white supremacy once again?
Ig I wasn’t paying attention cause I was cleaning but when I read what people where saying about the orange shirt guy and got to 38 mins I was like mmmmm I see what yall talking about. He just kept throwing it out there
The African guy pretending like colorism doesn't exist in Africa.... honestly 🙄🙄 Stop it. It's VERY prevalent there.
He meant growing up, but later he clearly acknowledged colorism in bleaching and opportunities
I was shocked too, I’m from Southern Africa and colourism is real!
His experience
GHANA doesn't much of an issue with colourism as it's in the Western Part of the continent.
The issue of colourism seems to come up moreso in the Carribbean (with bleaching) and in the Latin countries.
It could be a challenge exacerbated as the diaspora is psychologically reeling from rejection by the white population they're in proximity to.
This is not a big issue in Ghana.
i’m african and almost all of my aunties have used some type of bleaching product, same goes for almost all of the women i met that are of the same ethnicity as me and if you go to any african shop (most especially a west african one), i guarantee you that there will most likely be some type of skin whitening cream.
Orange shirt annoyed me throughout the whole video. In 40:56 when the guy was talking about his experience of being stopped by the police and almost put into cuffs, orange shirt literally interrupted him to say “well you were almost put in cuffs but I WAS put in cuffs. It’s like every time someone was comfortable to share an experience, the guy in the video needed to counter it with a weird compliment or make it like an oppression race where “this almost happened to you but it did to me”.
THANK YOU. I’ve been looking for someone to bring this up.
My sista in the white shirt wit the dreads/locs, she is so well spoken !! She was speaking straight facts !! I love that yall had this important conversation. I personally experience colorism all the time and even when I was younger . It's mentally draining !!
Poor you 🤦🏾♀️. Stop acting like it affects your well being.
@@Geminicricketi Are you okay? lol went out of your way to invalidate her for what.
@@Lala-eo4eq doing my part in destroying colorism. Even if it is a real thing to yall, it does not stop you from achieving your goals or chasing dreams. So y even VALIDATE something that only exists in your mind?
Judging from your profile pic (if that’s even you) congrats to you for not experiencing colorism and being brown skinned. I hope that continues cuz if you did personally or at least paid attention to what’s going on around you, you’d know it’s a systemic issue. Hope that helps.
@@Geminicricketiit might not stop you for achieving your dreams or goals but it’s still a thing, It’s common knowledge that dark skinned people have to work 10x harder to be accepted and be successful than someone with lighter skin
the guy in the orange is trying to hard.. phoney
Yesss, I thought I was the only one that thought he was weird lol
Yeeesss every sentence is him complimenting the dark skin girl…I’m wondering if he’s just convincing himself that he’s not colorist atp.
he is so annoying
Charles is auditioning for something. 🤦🏽♂️
The guy in the orange shirt seems like he has a spouse that is non-black and for him to be black he wants to get approval from Black people, whether their light skin or dark skin
Too many of y’all refuse to understand that there are levels to complexion. Just because they aren’t the same complexion as Ice Spice, doesn’t mean they aren’t light skinned.
Must be a U.S. regional trait bc in my cipher, both Sabrina and Joseph would _NOT_ be considered light-skinned. It’s their call, of course, if they want to label themselves that _BUT_ they should *not* be upset if other black folks don’t see them as fair complected.
They're all roughly the same color as my light skinned mom. She gets mistaken for Mexican when she travels sometimes and I'm sure these guys have had it happen to them.
@@gabrielmcdonnell8699who told you lightskinned only means fair complected????? Lightskinned is a ligthskinned color. Brownskinned makes no sense. Y'all call the lighter darkskins brown and the darker lightskins brown, but if you put both beside each other you will clearly see the difference.
@@terrianwilliams2624By no stretch of the imagination was I trying to be dogmatic with my original post. I simply pointed out that within the culture, this light-skinned criteria might be regional. _I_ don’t consider Joseph (burgundy hoodie) light-skinned but it’s not my place nor is it anyone else’s to prevent him from claiming to be of fair complexion. That said, I’ll reiterate: Joseph and Sabrina should *NOT* be upset if some black ppl don’t see them as light-skinned. For example, put Joseph next to Steph Curry and poll black folks asking them “who is light-skinned, Joseph or Steph Curry?”
@@gabrielmcdonnell8699It's kinda sounding like they're offended on these people behalf that they're not considered lightskin.
Notice how the actual two light skins in the room acknowledged their privileges and weren't oblivious?
Sabrina and Jordan are comparing themselves to their darker skin family members.
Orange shirt just wanted to get his 15 second viral clip that’s why he’s performing so much 😂😂😂
Ngl i know he means well but charles x comes off as extra. He can't just share an anecdote about his dark-skinned sister, he has to go over the top about stating how amazing it is?
Agreed, the way he kept saying how beautiful and perfect the dark skin women are was weird
The glazing got weird fs
it was extremely cringe
It almost came off like a white dude with a Black skin fetish tbh
@@dotdotdot8376exactly the way he said it was cringey like how brands use dark skinned models as props
The people in the comments saying “such and such aren’t light skin, they’re brown skin” missed the entire point of the video
EDIT: Let me add on to this. There are NO objective benchmarks for y’all to be trying to classify who is & isn’t light skin and because of that there will be a lot of overlap. The darkest shades of light skin and the lightest shades of brown skin are often one and the same. Yall also have to think about tanning. The people yall are saying arent light enough to be light skin could be pale as snow during the winter. Point is, there’s way too many factors to consider for yall to be this confident in trying to classify who is and isn’t light skin.
I agree!!! I think those ppl are trying to invalidate the discussion
Exactly!! They're completely ignoring the discussion because they're so focused on that
@@moniquecash let’s be real…if you wanna have a convo the people representing should be accurate.
@@100Stratusfiedx But they are accurate. Again all this is relative. There is no one objectivw tone to start classifying light skin
Not really because a brown skin person is not going to have enough
"Liteskin" experience to bring to the conversation
despite everything, this was the first middle ground in a while that was calm, everyone was well spoken and nobody attacked anyone's character. a breath of fresh air, more of these please and thank you
I love how Chrys ate up that guy in the orange with sheer facts because he reali was tryna overstep her point & go on like what she said wasn't valid when it was. He seems very self absorbed and like she said just because you haven't experienced something doesnt mean it doesnt happen - data supports that. She articulated herself so well & tbh that guy in orange gives weird & like he's fighting internal issues with himself still.
Colourism is a big issue everywhere. Even in Africa light skin people are being treated better than others and it seen as beauty which is sad
One of the guys is from Ghana
But the guy from Ghana, said it wasn't colorism in Aftica...only in the U.S.
I was just watching this show on freevee about people in the Phillipines and how they were using all of these skin creams, pills and iv treatments to get lighter. I didn't see all of the show though. It was really sad.
It goes the other way as well. Many light skin people are viewed as less than or they 'don't belong'.
In Africa it's not as bad as in America.
The guy in the orange shirt was very exclusive. He made sure he gave praise to the darker skinned women but kind of brushed off the lighter skinned people. He probably didn’t even know how passive he was being
it seemed deliberate to me....he clearly feels darker skin is superior and that light skinned people have weaker character traits
@@klz95002:45 he did say that the dark skinned people are the prototype aka the original. He seems very dismissive to the light skinned people and experience , which counteract what he said about himself not being colourist
@@OddsandSodsbyOkky dude is kinda corny but he was speaking facts tho dark skin is the prototype lol don't be mad because what he said is the truth you'll be ok you light brights still benefit from colorism so..
@@Austin-sc2lu whats the benefit?
this is exactly what i’m saying and people don’t see that. just ignorant 😂
The “darker than dogshit” comment hurt my feelings.
Mine too 💔
😂
Kids are such sociopaths.
@@Stopthecäq?
@@Stopthecäqit’s okay to feeling bad hearing a comment like that even if it’s coming from a kid. acting like if there’s not grown people that would say something similar at their big age. let’s not invalidate other peoples feelings.
This orange guy be getting on my nerves 😂😂 he's just cutting people off
I grew up not even realizing that I was the darkest of my siblings. All I knew was that I was pretty.
I like how you said that you knew you were pretty. 😊
And is 🤍
Yup preach sister!!
HA! that's it that's all lol
Period!
the guy in orange is so annoying
I felt like he kept trying to beef with the "politician."
I think he is black life extremist
After a while I just kept skipping every time he spoke. 🙄😵💫😵🫤😶🫣
@@MsDubatireal 😭
@@PoisonIvyy-sz8rv Yes, definitely seemed like he had it out for him for some reason.
Light skin men have VERY diff experiences with their complexion than light skin women do - just like dark skin men compared to dark skin women. Also find it interesting one of the lighter women is plus size because that removes her a bit from the beauty standard when people think of a lighter skin woman.
I agree with you but I would also add the reason why "light skinned" men aren't a preference anymore to black women because it started to become a problem. In the 90s light skinned men were extremely sought after and every woman wanted one. But black women decided to change the narrative and uplift dark skinned men. It's just sad that black men can't do the same for dark skinned women.
@@TruessencesvnI think it's more that light skin black men date other light skins or just out more.i could be wrong.
I agree. The light skinned plus size women is not the beauty standard (even tho she is beautiful). I also notice a lot of ppl keep saying she’s “brown skinned” or not light skinned and I think its because she is not what they think of when they think of light skin
Lol this is not true but okay. I still feel a lot of black women like foreign looking men .@@Truessencesvn
@@Truessencesvnunfortunately I'm guilty of this
Texturism is so so real and so under discussed. I’m light skin but have 4C hair and I swearrrrr ppl get so confused (mainly cause they think I’m bi-racial) always gets confused as to how my hair is 4C. I think it’s cause they assume I’m bi-racial due to my skin and I benefit from colorism in that aspect, but then I find a disservice when I wear my hair out because it’s almost like it re-enforces that I am in fact, black…then I get treated either 2 ways: I either get weird comments like “oh go black queen”, or like “ugh your hair is just so big but it’s so pretty” or I get just completely side-eyed and ignored till I change my hair again. So happy Chrys brought that up cause it’s def real
THIS!
Men talking about their “seed” always weirds me out
the word itself gives me goosebumps 💀
@@svellah4388wtf does seed mean lol?
@@christianbryant5617 another way of saying sperm really
@@thathopestan ohh. Hmmmm lol
Eurgh yeah, like that’s your CHILD - the SEED is what is used to fertilise the egg, so it’s weird to talk about a living human child as just being “your seed”.
Charles seems very performative
VERY
He’s giving dom from perfect match
There's a lot about what Charles thinks and says that seems off.
@@klz9500men who talk like that don’t date or aren’t use to being around black women.
Representation... Every family and every friend group has a "Charles"...
I thought the same thing he doesn't seem to be genuine at all.
Colorism is a problem Worldwide. Even in Asian countries. It’s an important conversation but it’s not exclusive to the Black Community.
Edit: This is just me eluding to the fact that there’s an opportunity to broaden this conversation, rightfully so.
True, but in the usa, we'll start here first then explore global
It's not - it's mostly US problem. Europe doesn't divide people by color but nationality.
Facts! Come to Manila and you’ll see skin lightening creams in every drugstore. You’ll even see billboards and commercials for these creams! And this colorist view is rampant in other Asian countries as well. Sad that in 2024 this crap is still going on.
Agreed, wish they brought people from other cultures who also experience colorism
@@phoearwenien4355 Colorism can’t exist among Europeans because all Europeans are white…….
i hate when men refer to their future children as their "seed" 😭 like URGH!! it's vulgar expression.
I get it, it’s like a replacement for “sperm” so it seems vulgar and inappropriate sometimes
Lightskin women, and darkskin men recieve social privileges by being promoted on screen, in their respective ways.
They often dismiss their counterparts experience.
@@Neo.Jordon dark skin men ? Pls be fr .😹
@@Neo.Jordon light skin men have so much representation too as light skinned women. Dark skin men than dark skin women maybe .
@@imetwurld-ey9sx Do you have any examples of lightskin men promoted as strong masculine or powerful leaders?
Lightskin is sold to the masses as soft, feminine and emotional.
@imetwurld-ey9sx that true a lot of bw want a tall dark skin men . Alot of women to be honest
i agree, at the same time tho like the guy in the orange said, not all social privileges are really privileges when you take into consideration how they're being portrayed (usually being hypersexualized, hypermasculinized, aggressive)
The first thing I thought when I saw this was, "Wait?! Am I light skinned?!"
Lmao literally 😂
😂😂😂
I'm not light-skinned and I'm similar complexion as three of the "light-skinned".
@@lorreanscarlett5583you mean 2. You are definitely darker than half of them
😆🤣😆🤣😆Bruh Wesley Snipes is light-skin according to this casting. Damn---it is one light skin dude out of all of them.
Y’all got Cailen and Chrys 😭 I’m in heaven😭
This conversation should have only featured Women...and a Part two can be for the Men. Both have VERY different experiences with colorism.
Light-skin is not the same as bi-racial.
Agreed!
Exactly!! And im tired of it being treated like it is.
@book_worm22 The standards changed over time because of so many biracial's be called only black.
This is true. My family is from Nigeria. We are Igbo people. My mom, sister, both aunts and several cousins are very light skin despite no European or Asian ancestry. If you have Nigerian ancestry (specifically Igbo), your chances of having a light skin child is very high because it's a common trait. You see it a lot with African Americans of Nigerian ancestry.
@@anncokaforwhat’s really funny in my family is that there is 6 of us and we are split down the middle lightskin darkskin. Me my brother and mum are lightskin, my dad, sister and other brother are darkskin. My mums Igbo and dads Yoruba
People definitely treat you differently. This is real.
The standard of beauty is often centred around the idea that "white is better" across various cultures. However, there seems to be a growing trend of emulating black features with surgery and fillers. Maybe the future is better for black people? LOL
@@riza361 in a black and white world that would make sense but in our reality that wouldn't be a better future. society only accepts the emulation of our features on white/lighter skin but not when they're born with dark bodies. Even so, the fact that our features had to be popularized and "trending" by non-black people in order to be respected or seen as valid is a problem within itself.
For the people in the comments:
2 FULLY BLACK PEOPLE can create a BLACK light skin kid
Without question but only 2 were in this video.
I am a result of that. My grandparents are dark and my parents. The San tribe in Africa is light skinned with DNA markers that go back 200,000 years. They are not light-skinned because they are mixed.
My son is like that. I’m brown, his father is dark skin. He came out yellow yellow. I’m still shocked till this day how genetics work.
@@gabrielmcdonnell8699which do you think if you don’t mind?
I only see 2 light skinned people. The other 2 they have as lightskinned are actually brown skinned. I'm their complexion and have never been called light skinned. Im brown skinned..sometimes even called darkskinned...
I was waiting for someone to call this out thank you. I can relate. I am multi toned depending on the seasons and exposure to sunlight lol. I consider myself brown skin or caramel but have been referred to as light-skin or even dark-skin depending on where I go. When I was in Kenya and Nigeria people called me light skin. In the US people see me as not dark but not light. Point blank I am brown skin. I am basically the same color as the brown skin brother on the light skin side, maybe a tad lighter than him. I think I am dark though compared to my high yellow brothers and sisters lol.
yeah their brown skin but they'er still consider light brown and still get treated better than the dark skins people on the other side.Another thing since you wanna be so technical you should include that the orange shirt not even dark enough to be darkskin he's just brownskin.
@@katinaSO9170 your still light skin though
@LeelaLay I'm not sure what country u r in...but in the US brown skinned people are either considered dark skinned or brown skinned...and i have seen light skinned priveledge but not brown or dark skinned priveledge. I've never been called light skinned. Also to me the guy in the orange looks dark skinned. If you have ever heard of the "brown paper bag" test, the people darker than that are considered black not brown from my experience. And I've lived in the north and the south...same thing for both areas.
I said the same thing! Im the same complexion as the bigger girl, if not a little lighter in the winter, and im brown skin. I have never called myself light skin and i turn red when embarrassed or when i cry and all that. Im still brown skin. And the irony is, the brown skin people were the ones acting like being “light skin” affected them the most. How sway??
all the ppl in the comments saying “those aren’t lightskins” clearly didn’t watch the video 🤦🏽♀️
Exactly lmao
And the funny thing is that the dark skinned people are also different shades. But no one has any objections for them.
I get what you saying but half of them are brown skin not light skinned.
@@dolphin8766 I think people get light skin and biracial mixed up. Light skin is a lighter black person.
@@Hawtestyf Exactly what I thought when they brought up light-skinned biracial people in the industry. That further expresses anti-Black sentiments in entertainment for that to be the predominant representation for monoracial Black women
"The sun was made for us" pls stop..
Yea I died at that part🤣🤣🤣
As obvious as that is. Captain cornball didn’t have to say it
He’s almost fetishising , if that isn’t colorism…
That’s not obvious at all. The sun wasn’t made for a specific color of human. The sun wasn’t made for humans at all. The sun made humans, but it wasn’t made for us. Especially not just one subsection of us.
I'm brown skin and definitely have to use sunscreen if outside for long periods of time under this new sun we got in the last few decades.
I’m glad the title is “light skin & dark skin,” bc if “vs” was thrown in their that would’ve been entirely inappropriate
Light skinned men get treated like dark skinned women. I appreciate when people are aware of their privilege
I love Chrys!!! I love everything she said. I wanted to say that dark skinned Black men do benefit from colorism in social settings because dark skin is perceived as masculine. As men, that benefits them, but that is a disadvantage to dark skin black women because women want to be viewed as feminine
lol ok
Charles is doing too much ...and yet he does too little all at the same time.
He brings nothing to the conversation , he's loud and he's in oppression Olympics like "I'm worse " or i"t doesn't happen "always wants to shut down the girl with the locs when she speaks facts , he's very prefomative and he's talking to other darkskins in weird way
Correct. It’s like he’s trying to convince us and himself that he loves himself but he doesn’t
@@LisaNgwenze-kw4ed This!
Can we talk about how DROP DEAD GORGEOUS the lady in white T shirt and in her natural hair is 🤩🤩
Yes! She was glowing 🌟
@@sasaOLOGY I LOVED her!!
She's not. She's past her prime and she's an admitted feminist who would rather disappear from the earth when she passes than leave better versions of herself to move forward. Overall, she's not wife-material. That's her choice, but that's the facts.
Ok? She looks so dewy soft and supple. So pretty. Gorgeous.
I don’t like how this constantly invalidated the experience of light skinned people being rejected by their own community.
I agree it’s always like if we try to tell our experiences nobody wants to say it’s colorism it has to be labeled a different term but in reality it is a form of colorism because it’s still discrimination of skin tone. My channel focuses on the nuances of skin tone discrimination for light skin black Individuals if you want to check it out.
@@Shades_of_Resilience333 black people don't even want to be black, so yalls complaints will never be understood
I feel they discussed it. But I do feel there is a difference in how we are treated. Not invalidating your experiences in any way because they are truly valid. statistically it is a proven fact, we are both black. But not treated the same, we face deeper issues within society. That isn’t to take away from you. Either way we in this together.
@@AlexTheDiamond it wasn’t discussed it was brushed over, and there was no acknowledgment or accountability for how people with lighter completion are treated by their own community. Instead of taking their anger out on the people mistreating them they want to mistreat someone the same race as them instead. Makes zero sense to me and needs to be discussed more. Everyone knows people with darker complexion are mistreated by other races. But no one ever discusses how mixed/lighter toned black people are treated by their own community. Which in my opinion is much more egregious because you have no community to turn to. You have to stand on your own.
@@holisticcoachvictoria Facts 💯💯💯💯
I never would of thought of having a Jubilee middle ground of Light-Skins and Dark-Skins 😭
Let’s have a Kendrick Fans vs Drake fans next while we at it 😏
😂
Jubilee is getting wilder by the day. pushing the boundaries till they cancelled.
This is crazy 😭😭😭💀
They profit off of every minority plight under the guise of “we’re building human connections.” Not shocked seeing this tbh
Exactly! I was wondering what is there to discuss about this
Now do:
-East Asians vs south Asians
-Afro latinx vs white Latinx vs indigenous latinx
-Dark skinned Indians vs light skinned Indians
Because the conversations are fairly similar 👀
YES!
Ok well they can start by not using an insulting term like Latinx.
@@x2z964 I absolutely apologize, I was not clear if it was offensive or not and I can definitely change it to what is appropriate
@@munchydaboss It’s not necessarily offensive, it’s just cringe.
@@Jennaayy17Oh really? See I’ve heard the complete opposite even when doing my research… interesting. I don’t use it either way
Sabrina was two hours late for two years? Everyday!? 🤔
😂😂
Ngl I cackled 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was like… “I’d fire you for being incompetent tf”
Yeah prob not everyday lmao. She def exaggerated there.
Light skinned ppl don't experience colorism...I absolutely agree..but light skinned prejudice, I've definitely experienced
Same light skin prejudice is real, And i’m only a caramel yellow gal!
What do you think colorism is? Colorism is prejudice I think you mean to say that it’s not systemic colorism. Anyone can experience colorism
@@yourcousinduchessrowena no, colorism is the hiearchy of light over dark. It’s about systemic power and the disenfranchisement of darker skinned people worldwide.
not to break it down to you, but in the laws that matter (think Geneva conventions), it doesn't matter what race, ethnicity, religion, nation you are from: you can be a victim of genocide or crime against humanity. If you started not allowing white people into your places, not giving them job opportunities solely because of the color of their skin you are practicing racial discrimination.... Law is equal for anybody, no such thing as reverse-racisism or "can't be racisim, it's only prejudice". Jewish discrimination started with prejudice come on now
@@yourcousinduchessrowena Colorism is prejudice towards people of a darker color, definitionally speaking it isn't merely prejudice based on color. The way it was articulated in the video was great, the word does not have to be the same for light skinned people for us to acknowledge the prejudice that they face as well.
A 49 minute video and even after all of that people still find a way to question the validity of the participants skin color saying things like “no he’s brownskin” “no she’s not lightskin” as if the ENTIRE time they weren’t expressing how they and entire communities have been harmed by these EXACT sentiments. Completely missed the point of the video.
The dude with the braids isn't light skinned. I'm lighter than him and nowhere I've been have I ever been considered light skinned by black people.
I love how all of us in the comments agree that the dude in the orange was annoying af 😂😂😂
Even Dr.Umar isn’t that much of a black glazer lol
Hhahah
"Black glazer"
Sit this one out, racist.
@@Daizy10231023 How about no 😈
@@Daizy10231023 Made me cringe as well looool
Had me until "black glazer" crazy
Yall in the comments arguing about "brown skin" look goofy af
yeah im confused i thought they're all lightskin😭 this just goes to show that we're disagreeing over something that doesn't matter
fr they think lightskin is only one shade, which is part of the problem
Fr
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Fr I’m not black and half of them looked light skin to me
Its very interesting how Sabrina considers herself light skinned. I am from California and out here most people would consider her simply black or even a darker skinner woman. I am about her tone and I have never considered myself light skinned.
I agree, sabrina is definitely not light , im frm BK and if she called herself lightskin i guess im clear , I actually think her complexion is perfect, id love to be a lil more tan
How does her not getting fired prove she benefited from colorism, if the other person quit?
🤣 She was just full of lies and foolishness. She was lying about being light skin.
I scratched my head on that one too like huh?
I think she's implying that maybe the lady that did quit was probably under fire for being late a lot which resulted in her quitting before fired, yet she came in late the entire time she worked there and she was not in trouble. It could be due to her skin color.
She literally adds nothing to the conversation 🤦🏾♀️
@@ccb.8603 that’s exactly what she was trying to say. They tokenized her for having light skin and didn’t care about firing the other Black employee who was darkskinned
Who casted the lightskins bc half of them not even light skin ?
I was thinking the same thing.
Black = black, brown = light skin.
THIS!!! Ok I thought I was tripping!!! I’m from New Jersey so I thought maybe I have a skewed understanding of light skinned because northerners tend to be a little lighter. But I only see one or two light skinned people on this panel lmao. Like who picked these people 😂😂
@@waty0usay1there both brown
@@waty0usay1what you said made zero sense. They’re all racially black and have brown skin tones, just different shades of it
ppl who are calling the black people out in this video saying some of them are brown skin and boxing them in even more is the reason why this video exists
Light skin doesnt mean automatically mixed/half-caste. There are so many light-skin people who are fully black.
It’s so weird here in America. Half caste is biracial. Light skinned is Black. I’m African and my mother is light skinned. She is no way mixed.
As a dark chocolate woman that came from a VERY light skin woman it ALWAYS irritated when other black people compared our skin color. I always seen it as “but ain’t we both black?”
But like chrys said, pretending it doesn’t exist and denying the issue doesn’t fix anything it just encourages ignorance
Wow, I feel this. My mom is chocolate, and my daughters are chocolate. Alot of ignorance around DNA & Genetics, smh
This should be a series for all POC as this topic plaques so many ethnic groups (Asians, Latino, MENA etc.)
I agree. Wouldve been nice for everyone to speak to eachother
100% should've included Asians(E.Asian and SEA), MENA
this is so random but thank you so much for saying MENA instead of “arabs” or whatnot
Your auto correct betrayed you with one word
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw I think if it was different races it would be a different conversation altogether - the dynamics among people of the same race are different.
I’ve seen light skin girls get bullied and beat up because they were light skin. Especially if they had wavy hair. I’ve also seen light skin men being called soft and bullied.
I also see Black women (especially dark skinned Black women) saying they don’t date light skinned men because they’re soft, feminine, etc. I’ve even heard some go as far as calling them gay…..And I’m like, do y’all not realize how harmful those stereotypes are against yourselves?? Saying light skinned men are soft/feminine due to their complexion is indirectly saying dark skin is masculine.
A lot of people truly don’t use their brains.
This^^^^^^ In my opinion, the light skin commentators were too afraid to say there is colorism towards them within the community. Yes, there is no denial on societal preferences towards light skin folks but we don’t talk the hate and resentment we receive just for being light skin within the black community.
lets be realistic though, in mainstream media and music, light skinned women are treated like the beauty preferences when compared to darker skinned women. lets be so for REAL. were there lighter skinned girls bullied? Yes. However, once you turn 18 and you enter the dating/adult/societal world, you see how much more pedestalized and accepted lighter skin is. It's important to not be dense.
And when these lightskin women talk about these experiences they get cut off and that they don’t believe them because they are trying to make themselves victims? Why can’t lightskin women talk about these problems without getting told that barely happens to them when it does. As a darkskin women, i’ve seen this growing up, it happens both ways?
@@larisamelendez7964Nope we better not even mention how bad dark skinned people treat us, we are expected to take just the abuse and insults from them and if you do say something you get called "sensitive".
The guy in burgundy made a few great points towards the end and he spoke well.
I know you didn’t mean it negatively but personally, as a black person, I dislike it when ppl say “you speak well” bc (to me) it often _SUGGESTS_ that it’s a miracle that I can articulate myself. But that’s just me. ✌🏽
@gabrielmcdonnell8699 Well, you might have misunderstood my comment. Some people (no matter the race) have difficulty articulating their thoughts or getting their point across in a calm manner. My comment had nothing to do with his race.
@@jadesmith7983 Understood. 👌🏾 But sadly, in 2024, ppl (usually white) compliment black folks on their diction in a “you’re a credit to your race” manner. 🤦🏽♂️
@@jadesmith7983 I expected someone would have a problem with u said. But I agree with you he was very well spoken. People will continue to have a problem with anything people say
@@dhenderson319 Yea. There is a strong sensitivity with race even when it wasn't mentioned. Thank you for understanding!!😊
I wish we would really move on from this light skin vs dark skin stuff...
Exactly like we are all black we can’t help if you are light or dark that’s just how we were made
No...
It matters because the prejudice is still there. When that goes away the convo goes away
we should move on from black vs withe or any other skin colour really
You can stop thinking about it, talknn about it, etc. but it’s still gonna be there. Ignoring something doesn’t make it go away
How is being the only black person at your job means you benefited from colorism?!?! Does she even understand the term?!
omg i thought i was the only one who peeped this
Stereotypes don't fall from the sky, as it turns out.
Exactly she came across so uneducated and unaware compared to everyone else
Because probably she was hired for diveristy quotas, meaning that there were white applicants with more impressive CV, but they needed quotas so they hired her. That's benefiting from colorism.
@francescamazzonelli1670 I think your point (and by extension, hers) is on race. Not colourism - both valid + lived experiences of black people, but different conversations. This chat is on colourism, not race.
THEY need to do this with Indian people and then also East Asian people I would love to see it!
They shoulsve been included in this! A pair from each culture
@@Momo-po5tnI disagree. There’s definitely a privilege that comes with being poc and so they should hold their own space for such
@ExoticalsRevenge-b8v yes it is, so they could all learn from eachother
@@Momo-po5tndefinitely not.
@@Momo-po5tnno, they need their own episode. No need to insert other poc in a black focused conversation.
The over reassurance energy they give to Hanna is annoying asf re her darker skin. She loves herself period 🤎
Chrys and Cailen brought facts and weren't going off just their feelings alone. They made this conversation worth listening too. 10 out of 10! I'd love to see this conversation through difference ethnic groups, colorism is prevalent in every racial group, it would be interesting to see this convo from different perspectives
I agree with you, but thought Kwame and Tyler spoke sense too. They just had less airtime.
@@pam-t1n I do agree, Tyler didn't say much but when he did he was speaking facts. Kwame (Hanna as well) gave a new perspective, especially on the "Diaspora" issues so prevalent in the community.
Sabrina is delusional.
I was going to throw this until I saw your comment. Literally the same words.
Very delusional
She’s not light skinned like at all!!! Very very delusional!!! She’s that same black person that would call a “white/European Latina with a button nose, straight or wavy smooth hair with a perfect slender body with pale to tan skin” a black person.. 😅
😂 diabolically delusional ,
I don’t think anyone would consider sabrina a light skin?No offense just honesty.
Okay what do you think she is cause she's not dark skin and brown skin is just light skin just a little darker so what's your opinion on what you think the color of her very light skin is
@@Nathanclark-e1ilol I disagree with this lol no explanation just my perspective because people tell me I’m light skinned and others say I’m chocolate. I’m brown skinned. I have pigment no shade to light skinned folks. I just see brown skin as brown skin light skinned is fair skinned and dark skin as dark and beautiful.
@@Nathanclark-e1iShes black!!!!! Are you serious!!😅😂😂😂😂 as a white person..She’s your average black woman
She’s not , only 2 of them are lighter skin, everyone else is brown/darkskin
the woman with the locs is well spoken
22:38 there are so many examples of dark-skinned men being positively portrayed but it goes against y'all's narrative
Popular media definitely favours light-skinned women and dark-skinned men.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what non-celebrity dark skinned men in general experience.
I feel like the standard for light skin has changed cause growing up, all the people casted for the light skin side would be considered light skin. Now it seems like the standard for light skin is mixed or racially ambiguous. (For the ones saying only Tyler and Cailen are light skin)
Yeah jubilee’s audience definitely skews young (and American). I’m surprised by the comments because those are all light skin people, but maybe people are used to seeing biracial and mixed race people as such so it’s confusing them.
because the internet decided to create "brown skin" a few years ago to further divide us into groups for... reasons? All so reductive. Have dark, skin, light skin, yellow skin, who cares, go about your damn day. What are we doing in America...
That is true the criteria has changed. It also varies based on gender presentation
I don’t know when you grew up, but when I was growing up in the 80’s and early 90’s light skin and dark skin was straight forward. There was no ambiguity. Light skin was Alicia Keys, Zendaya, Tia and Tamera. Period. A brown skinned person like the two in the video claiming they are light skinned were not considered light skinned. Nowadays, it looks like the rules changed.
@@ShowtimeSynergy12 i just personally feel like everything was moved back. People that in my eyes can be considered brown are in the dark skin category now. When I think brown I think chocolate not caramel? That’s all. But hey regardless as a society we gotta stop finding ways to divide each other anyways
I am fully black, Nigerian, and light skin. So, no dark skin is not the "prototype". I have more African DNA that these darkskins, yet I am light. Also, darkskin is not dominant. A person's skin color is determined by many genes.
Its eugenics
Darkskin is a dominant gene.
don't get emotional. Dark-skinned people with wide nostrils, big lips, etc. are the prototype because all of humanity began from them. This is a FACT according to history and geography(the location of our ancestors changed their features). There have always been light skinned people in Africa too because they were more affluent, they could maintain being light skinned(read more in this).
It DOESN'T invalidate your blackness, but darkskin is the prototype.
Darkskin is the blueprint to humanity
There are more dark skin Nigerian that they are light skin ones. Light skin fully African people do exist but dark skin is definitely the prototype of west Africans.