Monica Seles vs Zina Garrison | Wimbledon 1990 Quarter-final | Full Match

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  • @MrDarenhayes
    @MrDarenhayes 3 года назад +12

    I cant believe i forgot how magical Zina was.. miss and love her.. so much talent..

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 2 года назад +5

      She was my favorite tennis player, I modeled my tennis on hers
      She was never mentally strong to stay on top
      I really think losing to Mary Joe Fernandez at 1990 Australian open when she was serving for the match really messed her up

  • @mohammediftekaruddin7380
    @mohammediftekaruddin7380 4 года назад +16

    No commentary? I loved monica seles in those early years, a real contrast in style to anyone else. It was a great era for womens tennis with graf and sabatini at their prime, and others like sanchez vicario martinez and mj fernandez coming up. Shame that seles never got the chance to prolong her early promise, understandably she wouldnt be the same after her return

    • @fjosephgonzales6870
      @fjosephgonzales6870 4 года назад

      I think the Wimbledon committee (or whatever they're called) decided to just go ahead and put their tape of this match -- and many others -- on YT, even without commentators (probably easier regarding copyrights and so forth), to compensate for Wimbledon being canceled this year.

    • @Smudgeroon74
      @Smudgeroon74 2 года назад

      Also Conchita Martinez, Anka Huber and Amanda Coetzer were up and coming.

  • @hill4252
    @hill4252 4 года назад +17

    Classic match - contrasting styles, thought, court craft, mix of pace - basically everything missing from women's tennis today

    • @guest4590
      @guest4590 4 года назад +6

      Except in the top 20 alone, Andreescu, Barty, Martic, Vondrousova, Kenin, Bencic are all thoughtful players with different gamestyles, and all but Martic are young. There is definitely lot to be said for consistency in women's tennis but people characterising them all as one dimensional probably aren't watching.

    • @roobookaroo
      @roobookaroo 4 года назад

      @@guest4590 Not only they're not watching, but they repeat the cliches of their youth. Not to forget Maria
      Shaparova, and Venus Williams, both players with power, finesse of touch, grace and elegance that the old-timers could never dream of.

    • @hill4252
      @hill4252 4 года назад +2

      @@roobookaroo Sharapova?? 🤣

    • @user-gu1un7pb7k
      @user-gu1un7pb7k 3 года назад +5

      @@roobookaroo Lol Sharapova was a great ball striker and shot-maker but finesse of touch? Grace and elegance? Hmm not so much.

    • @kazuakigabychan8147
      @kazuakigabychan8147 2 года назад

      Ashleigh Barty., but alas! She's retired. Will she ever come back?

  • @BN-nu2kw
    @BN-nu2kw 4 года назад +4

    What an awesome match - thanks for sharing!

  • @favabean75
    @favabean75 4 года назад +4

    Wow these matches are so fun to watch!!!

  • @MicahMann
    @MicahMann 4 года назад +11

    Terrific match.

  • @keeganthorpe
    @keeganthorpe 4 года назад +11

    The umpire ain’t taking no mess from the crowd. She was on top of everything. I also like how she asked Zina if she needed an injury time out when she fell awkwardly.

    • @oza801
      @oza801 4 года назад +1

      Older people were more quality in general- i think.

    • @HunterBidenCocaineBag
      @HunterBidenCocaineBag 4 года назад

      The ubiquitous Fran McDowell - a seasoned veteran, but who never pronounced Chris Evert's last name correctly. It still annoys me!

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 3 года назад

      @foxyjohnuk Ever-et
      It's Evert

  • @englandcalling9721
    @englandcalling9721 4 года назад +28

    Tennis was a lot more tricky before widescreen TV, the players had a much narrower court.

  • @oza801
    @oza801 4 года назад +8

    Where is john barrett - i can’t enjoy it without hearing him or virgina wade :)

  • @zuichiang5088
    @zuichiang5088 4 года назад +10

    47:55 great defense and eventually great backhand pass by Zina

  • @jaidenofficial8746
    @jaidenofficial8746 4 года назад +11

    Monica. The best

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 4 года назад +1

      Well, not this match she wasn't

    • @cullerjones
      @cullerjones 4 месяца назад

      @@kdohertygizbur not ever at Wimbledon she wasn't.

  • @BigTimeShowdown
    @BigTimeShowdown 7 месяцев назад +3

    Zina Garrison- not the strongest and certainly not the tallest female player- played an absolute masterclass in tactics and timing here.

  • @ericlopez9107
    @ericlopez9107 4 года назад +9

    I enjoy the way garrison mixes up her shots and shows such variety....the closes we got to that nowadays was Rodwanska, & she already retired!! It seems like they are producing every female player like a factory, to play one way and 1 dimensionally!! Just recklessly blast away from the baseline...This match up proves that even a power player like Seles can be beaten with smart play & variety!!! Miss those days!!!

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 4 года назад

      She was always dangerous on fast courts and even though I always cite Miss Garrison as my inspiration when I played tennis, she did tend to have issues with her mental strength
      She should have won a Slam

  • @corymajor7811
    @corymajor7811 4 года назад +14

    That forehand down match point by Garrison might be the most important shot in tennis history. If she missed that Seles wins and plays Graf in the semis. Remember Garrison pulled off the huge upset of Graf in the semis. Graf obviously slaughters Seles in the semis, like their other 3 matches on grass, probably wins 6-1, 6-1 or something like that. Then it is a Graf-Navratilova final. Despite that Graf was playing much poorer than 88 and 89 and Navratilova much better, Graf probably wins. Graf is tied for the Wimbledon record with both at 8, or holds it outright since she probably wins atleast 1 of 94, 98, 99 with increased confidence of a longer Wimbledon streak.

    • @roobookaroo
      @roobookaroo 4 года назад +5

      Dreaming is such a pleasant exercise, that we can indulge at all times with impunity. Imagination, one of the great strengths of the human mind.

    • @jess4metoo
      @jess4metoo 4 года назад +2

      As so many Graf fans have said about Seles, “woulda, coulda, shoulda, DIDN’T,

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 года назад +1

      It's so hard to say. None of the top contenders were playing especially well that Wimbledon. Although Martina wasn't playing well (by her own admission), Steffi was really at a low ebb. If Zina could beat Steffi that Wimbledon then I'm sure Martina could have too. We'll never know.

    • @KaejaeDoherty
      @KaejaeDoherty 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@roobookarooyou really think Seles would have beaten Graf, on grass ?

    • @darthfreund
      @darthfreund 19 дней назад

      answered correctly.

  • @rbfortheloveoftennisandlif144
    @rbfortheloveoftennisandlif144 4 года назад +7

    Good to see some history sometimes. Nice match.>>>>

  • @pomerlain8924
    @pomerlain8924 4 года назад +3

    Nice to see a match on the old, original Court 1.

  • @jamesdavidkmoss
    @jamesdavidkmoss 8 месяцев назад +2

    1990, what a great year.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 4 месяца назад +1

      One of the best (and most entertaining) years in women’s tennis

  • @jeromefianza9691
    @jeromefianza9691 4 года назад +7

    This is vintage zina!

  • @TressBraga
    @TressBraga 2 года назад +3

    Women's tennis is today is so boring compared to 30 years ago. Also, the players then were so fit and lean.

  • @TotalTennisGeek
    @TotalTennisGeek 4 года назад +8

    Zina Garrison was a great tennis player. She should have won more. I get the sense that she just didn't have the off-court support she needed to be consistently strong mentally on the court. That game, the one that I have just watched, could win anywhere. My only concern was that it took her a while to warm up, AND her first serve percentage seemed low. Otherwise, I know that she won a good deal, just the same I think she could have won more, including a major.

    • @jeremyredding2251
      @jeremyredding2251 4 года назад +5

      I've thought the same. She was always one of my favorites. How many women can say they've beaten Navratilova, Evert, Graf, Seles, and Sanchez-Vicario all at majors? Insane.

    • @JordanjamesX
      @JordanjamesX 4 года назад +3

      Zina was such a talented player she is a pioneer too. Zina came up in the 1980s with Lori McNeil they both reached the top in women tennis. Zina unfortunately was small people forget she is only 5 foot 4. Her issue was Zina didn't have a big weapon. But she did everything well.

    • @TotalTennisGeek
      @TotalTennisGeek 4 года назад +2

      @@JordanjamesX I disagree about the weapon. Her volleys were spectacular! So were her backhand slice and her court craft. Also, her forehand had quite a bit of thump and depth when she swung out. For sure a pioneer.

    • @jess4metoo
      @jess4metoo 4 года назад

      Darius E. Bennett When she got passed both Seles and Graf, I thought she would easily dispatch an aging Navratilova.

    • @richardross4677
      @richardross4677 4 года назад

      @@jess4metoo Beating Seles on grass is no biggie. Seles is 1-4 lifetime in Wimbledon quarters. On grass Zina should win and probably should win more easily than she did. Beating Graf was a huge win but Graf was playing like total crap at the time, and Zina also played the match of her life that day which would be hard to duplicate. She was losing almost every match she ever played vs Martina, even around then. It was expected she would lose to her as usual in the final.

  • @anthonyanthony5568
    @anthonyanthony5568 4 года назад +6

    Seles vs Navratilova 1992 semifinal, please...

    • @valentinodelpiero4861
      @valentinodelpiero4861 4 года назад +1

      foxyjohnuk yes but not in this quality lol

    • @jamesdavidkmoss
      @jamesdavidkmoss Год назад

      @@valentinodelpiero4861 Exactly,why I don't know..this is 1990 lol

  • @1RosalindBest
    @1RosalindBest 3 месяца назад +1

    Geat play by Zina Garrison. Best point 48:20 Brilliant .

  • @endokuken1678
    @endokuken1678 2 года назад +2

    Zina's delayed serve motion would drive me crazy as a player lol. Great win for her in this match though

  • @ginnylightworker306
    @ginnylightworker306 4 года назад +6

    Seles, great player, shame her career was cut short. Her racket looks bigger than the one Federer had been using until recently!

  • @olaraay
    @olaraay 4 года назад +12

    garrison was wearing Martina Navratilova clothing "MN" then she changed to reebok for the final.

    • @nicedoggy2744
      @nicedoggy2744 4 года назад +2

      that must explain the result...

    • @JordanjamesX
      @JordanjamesX 4 года назад +3

      It was shameful Zina did not have a clothing endorsement despite being a top 10 player at the time. Glad Reebok gave Zina a contract.

  • @1RosalindBest
    @1RosalindBest 3 месяца назад +1

    Zina was a complete player with lots of strategy in her play. Lots of slices, Not a big serve but dangerous and she loves to come to the net.

  • @sanduelena1500
    @sanduelena1500 Год назад

    ,,SUNTETI MINUNATI , UNICATI , SPECIALI , BRAVO ,,FELICITARI "!

  • @BLACKTREAT
    @BLACKTREAT Год назад +1

    Monica thought in her head that Zina would crack under pressure and give her the match. Not this time, said Zina

  • @MatthewMoscotto
    @MatthewMoscotto 4 года назад +2

    Good lord... I remember the body on Zina Garrison. That thickness was way ahead of it’s time.

    • @tiffanylyons4474
      @tiffanylyons4474 4 года назад +3

      Just a great tennis build.

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 3 года назад +2

      She was only 5'4 that played a part..she also had a history with Bulimia
      Sanchez Vicario had a stocky build too and both were very fast on court

  • @Lawrence_619
    @Lawrence_619 Год назад +2

    it was the best match I ever saw Zina Garrison play, in short......better than her match against Martina at the US Open in '88...way better than the match against Evert, in her last match in '89..and to me, she even played better than the semifinal she won over Graf, in the same tournament. I remember watching this match from start to finish. And many folks may not know or remember how much of an emotional wreck Garrison was, very early in her career. As I watched, I couldn't help but think back to all of the matches that she lost or tanked, when the moment got too big for her, and she didnt know how to close out a match. She would, literally, start crying...sometimes on the court and sometimes, in between games. But from the start of this match, I NEVER saw her so locked in.

    • @KaejaeDoherty
      @KaejaeDoherty Год назад

      I remember her crying losing to Wade in 84 Wimbledon and beating Evert in 89 but that was after
      She played great here, but her FINALLY beating Martina in 88, after blowing 6 match points , up 5-0 in second set and actually WINNING, changed her direction and she had her greatest year in 89 finishing #4 that year

    • @Sadiqi
      @Sadiqi 10 месяцев назад

      She was struggling with bulimia heavy in her early career so I wouldn't judge too harsly...

    • @KaejaeDoherty
      @KaejaeDoherty 10 месяцев назад

      @@Sadiqi she started dealing with it in 86

  • @SpiritDonkey
    @SpiritDonkey 3 года назад +2

    Monica got off to a great start

  • @roobookaroo
    @roobookaroo 4 года назад +7

    Seles shows her adorable teenager figure, the image we all came to miss so poignantly after her Hamburg disaster and her self-destructive junk food binging. Here, carrying no extra weight, all wiry muscles, we can see her, a very rare sight, in full sprint from corner to corner, and back again, at a time when she was the fastest. Simona Halep would have been proud of her. Seles gives us a good demonstration that she can very efficiently use her one-handed forehand on very wide balls when she needs to stretch to the extreme and even get spectacular winners in the left corner with it.
    I personally do not like Garrison's serve motion, but she produces good speed with her wrist snap. Her stance for receiving serve is most peculiar. She is one of the last users of the sliced backhand, but her volleying is not regular and solid enough when she has to control Seles's heavy topspin shots. However, Seles made too many unforced errors, while Garrison made some great shots, including short crosscourt backhands, for instance at 2:16:47. So kudos are deserved for her getting the better over Monica Seles, who, already at age 16, was ranked No. 3 in the world. This was for Garrison a win to savor and cherish as a special achievement that only top players could claim. Zina Garrison went on to beat Steffi Graf in the semi-finals, and lose to Martina Navratilova in the final, in a settlement of accounts among the last sliced-backhand artists.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 года назад +2

      interesting though that Monica said that her binge eating started a few years before this, to deal with the anxiety of being separated from her parents at the Bolletieri Academy. within a year of this match, the press would start commenting on how much weight Monica had put on and Monica said publicly in 1991 that she was "addicted to butter". I think it's one of the issues that was really there for a very long time with Monica, and something she would have had to deal with eventually. The stabbing seems to have exacerbated it all. It seems fairly clear though that being involved in professional tennis from such an early age had left Monica with quite a lot of underlying trauma. She wouldn't have been human if she hadn't been deeply affected by that.

  • @joseppi4cinqua
    @joseppi4cinqua 4 года назад +1

    Sounds like they use the same tension.

  • @peterb6512
    @peterb6512 4 года назад +15

    If she was allowed to grunt in 1992 final she would won.
    It's interesting that recently Seles said that she have only one regret in life and that is that 1992 W final and she blamed herself for being young and not standing up for herself.
    English press and crowd was ruthless towards her.

    • @tonydecastro6340
      @tonydecastro6340 4 года назад +2

      so the source of her power was her grunt... interesting...

    • @th8257
      @th8257 4 года назад +4

      Not sure she would have won at all. It's worth noting that before the 92 final, and before anyone knew Monica wouldn't be grunting, Virginia Wade picked Graf to win because she was just better on grass than Monica. Also - in Monica's prime, 91 and 92, Monica had a habit every few months of losing matches very easily. In 91, she lost easy straight set matches to Sabatini, Navratilova and Graf. In 92 she lost straight set matches to those players and also Capriati. She was never hyper dominant in the way Navratilova or Graf were in their prime. Monica's longest winning streak was the one that ended here in this match - 36 matches, Substantially behind the longest winning streaks of the likes of Evert, Navratilova or Graf. We also have to add in the fact that Monica was never at her best on grass. The low bounce allowed players to take advantage of the main flaw in her game - the low ball to her forehand.

    • @hill4252
      @hill4252 4 года назад +3

      She may have won a few more games but she wouldn't have beaten Graf that day, Graf was inspired. plus the damp/rainy conditions with the low bounce made it even harder

    • @zuichiang5088
      @zuichiang5088 4 года назад +4

      There is no way she would have won. Graf was super focused and so brilliant in the semis and final stages at Wimbly 92.

    • @valentinodelpiero4861
      @valentinodelpiero4861 4 года назад

      Truth said

  • @favabean75
    @favabean75 4 года назад +4

    Ughhhhh she shoulda played in 91!!

    • @CarloChapelle
      @CarloChapelle 4 года назад +2

      Monica had shin splints in ‘91 that’s why she withdrew:(

    • @fuckurbody
      @fuckurbody 4 года назад +5

      Not like she was ever gonna win wimbledon. It was a playground for steffi graf

    • @jamesr2164
      @jamesr2164 11 месяцев назад

      @@fuckurbody not necessarily. People also thought that with every grand slam at that time, but Seles burst on to the scene and won multiple grand slams that Graf dominated for years before Seles' arrival.

  • @aagold76
    @aagold76 2 года назад +1

    strange not having commentary

  • @riderskater7248
    @riderskater7248 3 года назад +3

    Zina had the game to beat anyone!

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 2 года назад +1

      But her mental game was very shaky

    • @paologonzato5202
      @paologonzato5202 Год назад

      She Lost 34times on 35 matches against Martina Navratilova....

    • @KaejaeDoherty
      @KaejaeDoherty Год назад

      ​@@paologonzato5202 33 but it was A lot lol

  • @sebaslasalle7598
    @sebaslasalle7598 4 года назад +3

    Ganarle a Seles y a Graf para perder con Navratilova :(

    • @edvardga5380
      @edvardga5380 4 года назад +1

      Zina obtuvo grandes triunfos, incluso sobre Martina N

    • @jess4metoo
      @jess4metoo 4 года назад +1

      Una misteria, pence que eva granar.

  • @martynphillips2515
    @martynphillips2515 3 года назад

    Garrison had a tough draw here Seles Graf Navratilova glad she won Seles n grumpy Graf wish the final had been better

  • @th8257
    @th8257 2 года назад +4

    Zina mentioned years later about how she has been bulimic for much of her playing career and it severely affected her performances, and after that she then became almost anorexic. Zina sadly had a tragic backstory. Her father died before she was 1 and her mother died when she was 19. She also said that after she reached world junior #1, she was often labelled "The next Althea Gibson" and the pressure got to her. Sadly, her life after retirement had some unhappiness. Her marriage broke down and at one point she took something very close to an overdose.

  • @tiffanylyons4474
    @tiffanylyons4474 4 года назад +1

    That bottle lasted three long sets. Good grief.

  • @aagold76
    @aagold76 2 года назад

    old court one- it was supposed to be the fastest court ther, but it sloped on one side.

    • @aagold76
      @aagold76 2 года назад

      according to Martina

  • @beavertown2006
    @beavertown2006 4 года назад +1

    Should have been uploaded 92 semi final Monica vs Martina instead.

  • @AHC63
    @AHC63 Год назад

    How many other players beat Monica Seles AND Steffi Graf in the same tournament, much less Wimbledon? Spectacular!!

    • @grantgoffin4774
      @grantgoffin4774 Год назад +2

      Beating Seles at Wimbledon is nothing. I will admit the Graf win is very impressive, despite Graf being badly out of form at the time, still a huge win.

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur Год назад +1

      Natalia Zvereva was the only other one who did that

    • @grantgoffin4774
      @grantgoffin4774 Год назад +1

      @@kdohertygizbur And she did it when both were much weaker than they were at this time, Graf imparticular.

    • @KaejaeDoherty
      @KaejaeDoherty Год назад

      ​@@grantgoffin4774 I disagree , weaker how ?
      She won tournaments that same year then reached back to back Grand Slam Finals at the French and Wimbledon in 99

    • @luthorlex-fc9ft
      @luthorlex-fc9ft 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@KaejaeDoherty Zvereva beat Graf at Wimbledon 98, not 99. 99 was when she was just starting her comeback and having horrible results like losing at Kournikova the event before that Wimbledon, Sugiyama and Appelmans later that summer, Schnyder at the US Open, etc..

  • @baileyduguay4527
    @baileyduguay4527 4 года назад +5

    The powerful groundstrokes and forehand of Garrison were too much for Seles.

    • @valentinodelpiero4861
      @valentinodelpiero4861 4 года назад +1

      I don’t think so since it was 9-7 in the last set having saved match point

    • @richardross4677
      @richardross4677 4 года назад +1

      @@valentinodelpiero4861 Yes but Garrison hit some huge forehands from when she was down match point at 6-7 to when she won the match 2.5 games later. She really started cranking it. I rarely see her hit her forehand like that, usually it a shaky shot for her in facdt.

    • @richardross4677
      @richardross4677 3 года назад +1

      @Hearth And Soul She definitely wasn't known for her groundstrokes, I think she was mostly a serve and volleyer and finesse player. She played ok off the ground but mostly with finesse shots and drop shots, and in addition to not being super powerful she was inconsistent off the ground normally. But she won the last 3 games of the match mostly just outhitting/ overpowering Seles off the ground, especialy with the forehand. She must have just gotten really confident.

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 3 года назад

      Zina was my personal favorite since I was like 8..I loved her first name
      Then a little older, I modeled my game after hers.attacking
      Zina had a very flat forehead which set up her splendid volleys..but Seles had Much stronger groundstrokes
      Zina used her speed, slice and volleys to win, not groundies

    • @richardross4677
      @richardross4677 3 года назад +1

      @@kdohertygizbur But in this match she won the last 3 games just with a bunch of huge forehands that overwhelmed Seles.

  • @patrickclohessy8339
    @patrickclohessy8339 4 года назад +4

    Zina deserved the win

  • @olaraay
    @olaraay 4 года назад +2

    why is seles scheduled to meet graf in the SF ? BOTH clearly the best 2 players at that time yet same half of the draw.

    • @antaniserse
      @antaniserse 4 года назад +4

      I don't know the rankings leading to the tournament, but I guess they felt that, on grass, Navratilova was still worth the n.2 seed over Seles...

    • @hill4252
      @hill4252 4 года назад +1

      I think at this point Graf was number 1, Navratilova 2 and Seles 3 in the world rankings, the 1st and 3rd seed always met at the semi final stage, the seedings weren't messed with then, it just went on the rankings

    • @corymajor7811
      @corymajor7811 4 года назад +7

      Navratilova was ranked 2nd in the world and the time and of course being a significantly better grass courter than Seles and ranked higher to boot, would be seeded higher. Which makes sense, hypothetically Graf-Navratilova playing in the semis on grass, probably the 2 best grass courters ever, while Seles who is nowhere near both ladies on grass being on her own in the other half would be ridiculous.

  • @untalcristiano2528
    @untalcristiano2528 3 года назад

    Serena vintage

  • @krismansitorus9124
    @krismansitorus9124 2 года назад

    good garisson.

  • @IanTurner78
    @IanTurner78 4 года назад +14

    seles was brilliant. had she played in 1991 she'd have won.

    • @tonydecastro6340
      @tonydecastro6340 4 года назад +4

      your powers of divination are truly astonishing!!!

    • @corymajor7811
      @corymajor7811 4 года назад +3

      Haha yeah right. She never won Wimbledon and never even came close. She skipped 91 with a fake injury which the WTA fined for her. She played 92 and she sure won that time didn't she, LOL!

    • @roobookaroo
      @roobookaroo 4 года назад

      @@tonydecastro6340 Everybody has a right to dream. Dreaming is power, and fun too.

    • @fuckurbody
      @fuckurbody 4 года назад +4

      Ian Turner lmao no way. She had no chance against steffi on grass. They met twice in 91, on hard court & clay. Steffi won both.

    • @FlabbyTitmuss
      @FlabbyTitmuss 4 года назад +6

      Don't think so. I think Graf would definitely have beaten her, and perhaps even Sabatini too.

  • @luthorlex-fc9ft
    @luthorlex-fc9ft 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very poor match by Zina, tons of unforced errors and terrible serving, but since Seles even at her peak was a mediocre grass player, it was still enough to beat Seles. Amazing after such a poor performance she played the match of her life vs Graf the next round.

  • @a66789
    @a66789 4 месяца назад

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  • @angelflorespacheco8992
    @angelflorespacheco8992 2 года назад +1

    Hahaha Seles LOST

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 2 года назад

      Guess not a fan

    • @jamesr2164
      @jamesr2164 11 месяцев назад +1

      WTF? Another "crazy Graf fan" I assume.

    • @angelflorespacheco8992
      @angelflorespacheco8992 11 месяцев назад

      @@jamesr2164 Cero Wimbledon, Anyway.

    • @jamesr2164
      @jamesr2164 11 месяцев назад

      @@angelflorespacheco8992 meaning what?