Langdon Tactical Space Magic Trigger on Beretta 92. It’s RIDICULOUS | Active Self Protection Extra
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2018
- I have been talking to my friend Spencer Keepers about his full house custom Langdon Tactical Beretta 92 for some time. He and Ernest Langdon finally showed it to me, explained what it is and why it really is ridiculously different as well as their “trigger job in a bag” and the PX4 and PX4 compact customizations. I have no financial or sponsoring relationship with Beretta, with Keepers Concealment, or with Langdon Tactical. They’re just freaking cool, and Ernest’s space magic trigger for the Beretta 92 is so cool I thought you all would like to see it. It’s ridiculous.
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DA/SA guns are making a comeback and I'm lovin it!
It’s a dream of mine to train with Ernest!
I’ve got a Wilson Combat Beretta 92g (which Langdon helped teach Wilson how to do the trigger jobs). My EDC is a PX4 Compact G model. Ernest is bringing a LOT to the table for the Beretta DA/SA system.
Never been a fan of the 92 but this has me thinking I might change my mind! Great video!
I took a class from Ernest about a year ago, it was the best instruction I've ever received
Yes, DA/SA !!! I use a CZ75 variant.
Great collab with 3 Giants in the 2A RUclips Gun Universe! Beretta needs to give Ernest Langdon stock options since he just brought the venerable Beretta 92 platform upto current industry standards!
The want is real. I just purchased a PX4 Compact for a smoking deal and have started making the upgrades Ernest and Spencer discuss here. I'll be reaching out to Spencer for a holster soon as well.
@Jacob Garrison They were available a few weeks ago, but you have to order the plastic plug for the right side of the slide stop from Brownells.
Picked up a 92fs with a g conversion already done. I’m in love.
Love it Langdon carries a clinch pick! I have it and it’s awesome.
I have always wanted an 92.
Beretta 92 is probably my Favorite handgun...it's like a Reliable Ferrari....that slide is SO smooth.
Try the LTT Elite. It's insane!
Reliable Ferrari? What's that?
Sent my 92s to Ernest for his magic then had it cerakoted and finally had a Holosun 507c installed. I love this gun. Oh yeah changed the grips also.
This just makes one of my favorite top choice pistols even better. For a SHTF, one gun for life, This or a P226 would get top billing.
I’ve got to get off my butt and finally send Ernest my 92! Great video, John. Thanks.
Do it. SO GOOD.
Really nice!
Learned a lot, thanks John!!
It's crazy seeing old videos you have lost so much weight bro. Congrats I also jumped on the fitness train went from 206 to 193 going to try and shed a little more before I focus on adding on muscle.
Why is beretta so greedy? Every time I think I am going to buy something else I end up with a Beretta. It’s just not fair. You are making me look like a fanboy. Then you put this Langdon guy in front of me. Great personality, passionate about what he does, and adds some salivating workmanship to the firearms. I can’t do this any more. I have to buy a Glock next.
Haha!
The first gun I ever bought was a Beretta 92fs and I've been a fan of da/sa hammer fired pistols ever since. I still have my 92fs, but I do prefer my CZ Shadow 2, especially for competitions. That 92x performance is pretty awesome too.
S2 owner myself and now a LTT Elite.
Going to shoot the S2 on the 11th in a match.
As soon as a good holster set up for Production arrives will try the LTT.
Out of the box the LTT trigger with NP3 is as good a my S2 with thousands of rounds
Great Job! Two of the best in the industry.
I really like the custom walnut grip that I put on my beretta 92. But this one does look really nice!
Thanks for posting. I'm a fan of the Beretta and I'm a fan of DA/SA.
Already own a beretta 92fs and an 92INOX.Both have Wilson combat grips,beretta “D” springs,oversized mag releases and stainless guide rods.Went to gun store today and they had a M9A1 and it had to go home with me!
Wow, thanks John!
I am a total noob when it comes to personal defense and I am
trying to learn everything I can including where and who to go to
for reliable, "solid" information to help me be safer and more proficient.
I am just beginning to learn who these people are, how good they are,
AND the respect they have worked hard to earn in the personal defense
"community".
I also really don't know much about handguns and this video was loaded
with a bunch of great information. You've got me wanting to take a really
close look at a Beretta now. And the Keepers holster..... gotta take look at
those also.
Thanks again for posting up the video.
Be safe.
Randy
NHlocal, if you can, I suggest you take a beginner's class from a certified trainer that will introduce you to handguns and hopefully help you in choosing one that fits you and your needs the best. Good luck.
Thank you Samuel, that's about the best advice for every
one of us "beginners" when it comes to handguns and self
defense/concealed carry.
I just took a CCW1 class 2 weeks ago and a CCW2 class yesterday.
I'm happy with my progress although it can be frustrating watching
someone able to shoot very tight groups under stress/pressure and
me doing my best to hit the target......
I understand it's a skill that takes time(and a whole lot of practice)
and I look forward to learning more. :~)
I switched to the 12 pound Langdon tactical spring from a d spring recently and can already tell the difference just from dry firing, now I'm going to have to spring for the trigger in the bag.
Did you add the "D" spring? Was it better than what came on the gun?
Trying to decide if I should change the spring to the "D" spring. I dont need super light trigger pull, just better than stock.
I've heard of some shooters getting occasional light primer strikes with the 12 pound spring, even with name brand ammo, but not with the 13 pound one. With my luck, just when I most needed the pistol to fire, I'd get a light strike.
Mr, Langdon was given mt Beretta Elite I 20+ years ago when I wanted to go into USPSA Production class. I, at the time found the Glocks ugly as sin, and the Elite was what Ernest used to win big time. When I got it back, it was amazing!!! I went from Unqualified in Production to "B" class in 6 months. It is my GO TO gun when the shit hits the fan. "Dime sized groups"? UBETCHA!! i LOVE my Elite I and would NEVER let it go!
My story is sad. I bought an Elite 2. Langdon's new trigger was declared illegal in Production class (changed outward appearance of the gun) so, I sold it to some guy in the midwest......been chasing an Elite 2 just about ever since
Very enjoyable I am sold on this
Very cool jacket Langdon’s wearing... love Beretta...
Awesome & Amazing!!!
I have a Wilson Cen-Tac with the Wilson trigger job and is double action 6 pounds of awesomeness! Earnest partnered with Wilson and helped them perfect their trigger jobs on Berettas. If you want the best DA/SA trigger in a semi-auto pistol a Beretta with either a Langdon or Wilson Combat trigger job is really the only way to go. Simply fantastic!
Rick
I would like to say that a Beretta 92 can be made to shoot great by just adding a #14 hammer spring. My M9’s have all the bells and whistles, but they were fine with just a lighter spring. Same with my PX4 Compact Carry pistols. It doesn’t take much to hit a nickel size bullseye in DA with these pistols. Great Stuff, Guys!
I think if you try a LTT you'll see a big difference though. :)
@@ASPextra Agreed, other than the polishing of the sear and hammer, most of the magic of the LTT trigger job is in the geometry of the their optimized performance trigger bars. Nowadays one can also order the kit with the match hammer option, which not only lightens both trigger pulls, but reduces SA pre-travel to just a couple of milimeters.
LTT really gave that gun a new lease on life.
Bought me a 96a1 in July. Added the Best of the Best parts from WolffSprings, Wilson-Combat, LTT and just loving to shoot it. Even went as far to add a "Ric's" Compensator and then an EFK 357Sig barrel to it and a Venom sitting on top. WOW is all I can say.
I have the LTT Space Magic on my PX4 compact and holy crap, what a difference. Now that I have a 92F and an M9A1 Compact, they are getting his Space Magic as well. He is a JEDI!!
It really is so good.
I checked the site last night and the price is reasonable.
Such a common story. Striker folks trying DA/SA, realizing the “difficulty” of the action is all hyperbole, and falling in love with the system. I’ve never been a big polymer/striker guy. I love my CZ’s and Berettas. Every time I have a friend or relative give them a try they want one and start carrying it. I got my niece a 92 compact and she loves it. Her brother is a big striker guy and alway bad mouthed DA/SA. Until he tried her gun. Instantly loved it, said he was jealous, and has been looking for his own 92 compact for carry ever since.
Just picked up a Px4 Storm Compact Carry last month and it is awesome!
I will buy the full size Carry next year. My duty gun is a Sig Legion in 9mm. I am a DA/SA believer.
LOMROB Curious if you can say what outfit is issuing Sig Legions?
VIPER150311 Not issued privately purchased.
I just ordered the Langdon Tactical designed low profile G de-cocker for my PX-4 Storm. Ok I may need to get the trigger job in the bag
It's amazing.
I have a custom tuned beretta from WC and an curious about this one.
I just bought a lightly used 92a1 at auction for $400 last week. I can’t wait to get my trigger in a bag kit!!
Man that's a good deal!!
My buddy owned a Beretta 92. While he was going through his divorce he sold me his Beretta to hold on to u til the divorce was final. I thought he was nuts, especially as cheap as he sold it to me for, but after shooting it just once I totally understood. It shot buttery smooth, and fast! To know that they could make that gun even better, well I want one, big time! Now I just need to win the lottery!
How does the trigger on this compare to, say, a Wilson Combat Beretta?
Edit: Uh, nevermind, you guys compare it in the video. Neat.
Great!
I have a Beretta 92, and now there is a trigger job in a bag in the mail on its way.
I think you'll be RIDICULOUSLY happy with it. I got some pulls on a gun with the trigger job in a bag, and it was phenomenal.
What I was told was the D spring is bomb-proof reliable, the 14lb is like 99.5% reliable, and once you go to 13 or 12 its somewhat gun specific and dependent on keeping the top end clean, as Ernest mentions in the video. Personally, I've found the 14's work really well, I don't have to worry about them, and the triggers are still really pleasant to shoot.
Like me , if you going to have a handgun , think twice , one of the better choices out there still is a Beretta it those matter what type , thanks again John for the video, down here in Miami you got some fans.
What's a space magic trigger?
The 20# hammer spring was for hard primers used in submachine gun ammo. It's a military gun after all.
I've installed "Gadgets" (Striker Control Devices) on my Glocks that provide tactile feedback if the firing pin moves during reholstering. Makes AIWB safer for sure.
I agree.
I'm never using an appendix carry holster with a striker fired gun. I don't want to get decocked or even half cocked.
For the record, I designed this trigger bar in 08, Wilson contracted Langdon to "build it" in 13...I pitched it to Wilson in 09 and was told there was no market for it. Just saying. I have the original, the provisional patent AND a convo with Earnest in my FB chat saved. So...there is that
Now Langdon has his own trigger bar, somehow different than the Wilson trigger bar.
@@joeflowers9084 I saw that and I actually went through the geometrical differences. In my opinion, kind of shady, he took the trigger bar that I gave to Wilson, claimed it as his own, then change the geometry to that trigger bar slightly to Market one as his own
Between Wilson Combat and Langdon Tactical, the 92 has new legs for a new generation. That makes me happy.
It really does.
Love my CZ Custom Shop P01 has 8lb Da and a 3.4 lb SA. Been carrying it for years now. I use a Cajun Gun Works SP01 for USPSA and IDPA. The P01 is the smoothest double I’ve ever shot. I am looking forward to getting a LTT Beretta. I shot a buddies and really enjoyed the firearm. I hope the LTT is all as everyone says.
It is. You will enjoy it.
My trigger bar....nice.
Wish I could send mine for the to tune up. But that will come in time.
I looked at Keepers Concealment and couldn't find a holster for a Beretta. No way to search on the site for a gun model. Good thing there's plenty of holster makers.
You should get a keeper I’m a southpaw myself and they are worth it.
Spencer won't make me one. :( I asked and asked but I am too much of a special snowflake. VP9, RMR, left-handed. He just won't make one for me!
Any chance at the price coming down ?
I went to the website, but couldn't find the 11 pound spring.
Glock Striker Control Device is a great added safety measure to prevent ND's during holstering.
Yep. Just got one for my G43.
My DAO p250 has a 5.5 pound trigger and i love the 250 to death as A it is first pistol and B its a nail driver
I have a 250 I like a lot too. Where did you get your parts to improve the trigger?
Please compare the LTT with the new 92X
That'd be an interesting comparison!
The pasta blaster lol!
Yes!
That's why I like da/say right there!
I don't need it!!...I need one now lol
1:12 did he just assume my important parts in the middle?
Doesn't matter what you are, they're important. ;)
at 16:40 - So 14# hammer spring would be the go-to for surplus 9MM ammo?
Should be.
Where can I get that grip from?
I can't endorse Robert enough. I've had them do numerous NP3 jobs for me since the late 80s, with never any issues.
I meant ROBAR!
Hi John
Your thoughts on Vedder holsters
Have no first hand experience with them to offer an opinion.
Active Self Protection Extra got it
Thanks
If the guy’s smart, he’ll call it a “business expense” and get the deduction!
That’s a lovely gun!
Any idea why i should get a langdon full house custom versus the wilson combat full house custom?
Both great guns. I don't have as much experience with the WC guns, but I can say that Ernest's trigger is the best I have ever felt.
Unfortunately Keepers no longer manufacture holsters for the Langdon Beretta PX4 Storm Compact, and when I asked "why", they did not respond with an answer. Does anyone have the answer?
That's untrue. I just checked with Spencer and he has them in stock right this minute.
With that gun, John, you look just like Martin Riggs!
You just made my day. Now if only I could shoot a full smily face in a target at 25 yards...
Doctor House 🤣🤣🤣
Any performance upgrades for taurus pt917cs?
You're not gonna find a lot of those.
I am never first.
Now I need a Beretta
I guess I'm the only one thinking about getting into the striker fired game..
Where was the shooting? Did I miss it?
No shooting in this one. At TacCon we didn't have a range to use, they were all being used!
Does the m9a3 slide fit and function on a 92sb without modification?
Good question for Ernest. I will ask him.
He said it SHOULD work but he's not positive, and why anyone would put a new slide on a frame and barrel almost 40 years old. :)
Need to send them my 2 Brigadiers.... Need some Noodle Gun magic done....
Spaghetti Shooters!
Now try a cz custom.
The best da/sa.
Im so torn between a glock 17 for its reliablitiy and cheap accessories or a berretta 92fs.. idk
If I had a ton of money, I would do a Langdon Tactical full custom 92. But if you're not independently wealthy, a G17 ain't a bad gun.
What is the website for Langdon Tactical?
www.langdontactical.com/
Is this gun (92) easier to rack than a 84fs cheetah? (We have two cheetahs) .My husband is looking at LTT for a full size 92. His fingers are longer than anybody, long long and skinny- so far the CZ75 shadow 2 is a close fit,but his fingers still wrap around and needs longer handle.. but he said feels good in hand,, but he is thinking the 92 might fit a tiny bit better. He is 6’5 and super skinny- with a hand damaged so the racking is a problem. We are also thinking a PX4 LTT full size- have to see if it fits his hand, but I think the px4 storm is easy to rack. Advice welcome! THANKS
Worth a try at least. A reduced-power recoil spring might help too.
@@ASPextra Thank you!
He had to have had something heavy wrapped up in that thing he was swinging.
French fries in the holster. . . I can think of a couple guys who that might've been.
I liked the sly dig at the police when Langdon mentioned doughnut powder getting in the gun.
A 6# DA!!!! My lord!
-Marky
No joke!!!
Glock knuckle, it is a legitimate condition
Totally.
92 knuckle is even worse. Metal trigger guard with an edge on it. I bet the beveled trigger guard on the LTT Elite is worth the price of admission all by itself.
@@Disirregardless I don't know what you mean by Beretta knuckle.
@Tactical Mustache moose knuckle would be camel toe's brother
Does he do Sigs? Lol
But, regardless, it IS a great trigger bar and changes the gun totally...welcome.
Does it take Glock mags ?
lol right, a Beretta 92 taking Glock mags.
About half way through I started skipping around in the video to see if they ever shoot the damn thing. They talk about dime size groups, guaranteed....can I see that?
Unfortunately we were at Tac Con and didn't have an open range to shoot it on. And frankly, the trigger was what we were focusing on and it's easier to see in dry fire.
6 pounds with standard DA pull?
Usually 6-1/2, but it's slicker than goose sh*t in the spring.
but is it better than the glock 19
As a long time Glock shooter who recently borrowed Spencer's pistol, I can confidently say that yes, it's better.
OK, I see your links to tee shirts sweat shirts but, no holsters you're pushing? Not very business minded.
Nor the gunsmithing?
I had to hunt up their website but, no prices listed?
Did you go on Ernest's website? It's all there, just a Google search away. www.langdontactical.com/
James Yeager said DASA is outdated and basically a revolver tho
Well then there you have it.
The pistol I'd buy if I had all the money in the world. Haha
How many people does it take to talk about features on a hand gun? How about some shooting>>
We weren’t on a range that we could shoot.
Do you guys ever listen to how relatively useless most of your discussion is. For example your proclivity, (as seen on Facebook) for a buttery trigger pull is complete nonsense, and I for one don’t really care, nor is it necessary to any video seen herein. I am certain the both of you are gentlemen, and it is not necessary for anyone to converse about what either of you stated in recent Facebook posts. This video is evidence of how far from a readily teachable point can be obliterated and while some may actually engage others in inane and nonsensical dialog solely because ones feelings about a trigger pull, how a trigger may be packaged, or for that matter a tractor pull for gods sake might make you warm on the inside. If there is a point to the dialog the both of you are engaged in, please make it and move on. We know you are turned on by guns, we get it. Talking about it is nauseating. Please get to the point and avoid the weeds, I appreciate your efforts, and wish you well, but your love for a trigger is downright weird.
Do you realize how un-self-aware your comment is?
That was some of the worst audio on RUclips. Come on, John, with all of those millions of dollars you're pulling in with ASP, you can afford a wireless mic, can't you?
Where did the millions of dollars come from and where did they go?