I shot as a kid, but stopped for years, got a new bow at the age of 23, the pro shop said I needed 26.5"... fought for 3 years, nobody would hear me out, they said you look good, and anymore you'll be too long... best thing I even did, tell the "pro shop" it's my bow, I'll pay to have it set up to whatever length I want. I added a half inch every week until I I hit 29". I've never shot better and have been more comfortable. Just like reloading my ammunition, tinkering around will show you alot!
I’ll back you up on that. I just got a bow a lil bit ago. Had peep sight issues, it kept moving. Long story short, the pro shop guy set my peep sight a bit low so I have to anchor, touch my nose and arch my face forward to see it instead of standing tall. Absolutely going into a diff shop to fix that soon. It’s not bad but it’s not the most comfortable, I still hit the 10 ring from 30-40yds out consistently
I stopped shooting in 2018 when I joined the military and just got my first bow since then literally today. And watching your videos has been a huge help for me getting back into archery. Thank you for making these awesome videos!!! Now I just gotta go to the shop this weekend and get a sight,rest,stabilizer and arrows
@@Hungrybird474 yessir!!! I just need to go to the local pro shop and buy a sight rest,stabilizer, and arrows sucks because I'm on a budget and can't really buy anything too good rn just stuff that works
Echo Thank you for your service Get me your info. I have an extra HHA single pin slider sight and an extra Xcel 4 pin armor Tec sight that I probably will never use again. I’ll send you whatever one you want. Both are rock solid sights. I do not have any extra rests. I just got rid of a Hamskea Trinity I had laying around.
I am 58 and just starting with bow hunting (my brother gave me a bow) and these tips are awesome. My local sporting goods store is re-stringing the bow before I get started and now I have some real helpful information to get those personal configurations done when it's ready. Thanks.
Chris, your tip about anchor points instantly improved my accuracy - a quantum leap forward actually! All my shots were decently grouped but to the left of the aiming point. Making your adjustment has me drilling bullseyes now. Thank you.
Great video, last year I had a few shoulder surgeries so is been over a year that I shoot my bow, I am trying to get back in shape so I am starting from the basics.
I’m late to the CLICK when shooting a hinge, I realize now maybe not enough pressure on my 3rd finger, something for me to work on, thanks for the tips Chris your the best man!
This type of video is great, especially the hinge tips. I’ve been shooting the hinge for a year now and have had a really tough time getting consistent with it. Just can’t seem to shoot it well. I would suggest making another video on how to shoot a hinge. It is hard to find good content on this. I’ll try these tips and see if they help. Thanks
This is your best video. It is good for my children, good for people I help, and the ring finger advice...that is golden advice for me, the hinge shooter. Thanks, Chris.
Been catching some of your videos here and there along with the other stuff I watch,right now I'm doing a complete tune out on an old golden eagle bow and the arrows shooting at 77 lbs. I am getting a slight tail left with everything tuned and dialed in, trying to find out why the slight tail left then I watched the video oh hello face pressure on the string . You don't give it much thought but with a heavy draw you will instinctively hard anchor without thinking about it the video was a great reminder and your explanation of these issues are great I'll be watching more of your videos great tutorials Chris thanks
Been bow hunting for 10 years. Started with a hand me down Parker bow self taught basically shot a few deer but also missed a few . Finally bought a new bow this year and didn't realize how bad everything was with my old bow lol. Was making too much face contact on the sting was shooting like an inch and half short on my draw. Now I'm learning how to shoot all over again with a bow that was built for me.
I just got my first compound since I stopped shooting at 14 (27 now). RUclipss algorithm recommended your channel right after googling “used compound bows”. Solidly entertaining content! Especially for an archery channel! But between this video and a few of the other educational vids I’ve watched of yours I’ve cleaned up my shooting and form quite a lot in the past couple weeks. And most importantly am not building some bad habits I’m sure I would have if it wasn’t for a few of your educational videos. Keep it up and stay real!
Thanks a lot Chris... So I was occasionally having to adjust my sight. I would usually shoot to the left or right after coming back to the bow after a few days. I could never understand why I kept needing to adjust. Well, I tried the face contact part aftet a few regular shots and to my surprise, after I made sure the string was not on my face with any pressure, my shot began shooting about 6 inches to the right. WTF!!! And the grouping tightened up. Great info bro!!!
I've recently gotten the itch to purchase my first compound bow. I'm actually going to go to a pro shop this weekend to try some things out. I'm thinking about going with a mission archery MXR or Switch, I actually watched your beginner bow setup video with the HAMR, but I'd made my mission decision before then. Just wanted to say your videos have been super helpful! I'm sure I'll be back re-watching them once I get setup and shooting.
Thanks for this very informative posting. You're point about people with beards is so timely. We broke the world record for the longest Covid lockdown periods here in the state Victoria, Australia. Working from home, my regular haircut and beard trimming schedule 'went to the pack'. My groups were getting inexplicably larger, with more and more very disconcerting 'flyers', for reasons I couldn't explain. It wasn't until my partner asked me how I could possibly comfortably practice "with all that bushy facial hair in way" that I woke up. One good severe facial buzzing later and my pre-covid groups returned with even a few of 'Robinhoods' to prove the point.
I might do it wrong, but I have no face contact to the string at all. I have my way to anchor and just look through the peep and then it is my sight with the pins. That is the 3 points I use and have never felt the need for a 4th one by using a kisser or touch some place on my face with the string. I also normally use a face mask when I hunt and I don't want to get near that when I shoot. I am not a competition shooter, but I manage plenty fine to hit the kill zone of the animals I hunt out to distances that I normally would not take because of wind, chances for the animal to naturally move to much before the arrow hits and so on.
Thank you for sharing. You mention focusing on your third finger. When you draw back with a hinge do you draw back with your thumb and index finger or with your ring finger?
I added a soft rubber kisser button at nose level. It is a very flimsy rubber kisser that even with a bit of pressure wont effect my string movement. I can get that extra point of contact but not direct on the string. It has helped immensely with my accuracy.
I've been shooting for years. No one mentioned face pressure (or I wasn't listening). I just tried a few shots with that in mind and the difference was obvious! Thanks!
Chris, I came back to this video to mention I found having too long draw length was my reason for losing accuracy at longer distances. I thought this was because of not being as precise holding on target but reducing my draw length by only half an inch has made a big difference. I'm sure too short DL would likewise effect accuracy. Thanks for instructional as well as hunting videos.
Watched this video last night and after the range session today I had to come back and say thank you. 3rd finger rotation and face pressure made a huge difference.
Talking about shooting with a to short draw length. I know to much about that since my DL is 32" When I started to hunt with a compound bow in 1986 and I was finger shooting, it was extremely hard to find a bow that I could hunt with and have a decent form. And since I didn't know so much at that time and had no one to teach me, I did a few strange things. One of them was finger shooting with 2 fingers only with my 70 lbs Bear Hurricane XL bow with way less let off than now as I knew nothing about using 3 fingers on the string. D loops and releases have made things so very much better. I remember when there was all this overdraw hype. A totally stupid idea that I never understood the point of. Maybe because I already had plenty DL. I get something for free by having my draw length, but I don't have many bows to choose from. There have been a few bows over the years that I really wanted to buy, but they never made them for people with my wingspan.
George told me this two weeks ago when he was working with me at a workshop… we moved my my draw back an inch that day and it felt great… I’ve since moved it another 1/8 of an inch to a clean 29 inches (27.25 pivot point to nock) using the 28.5 mods on my trx36 (had to add 4 twist to the string, all the mods measure about 5/8’s long)… I’ll probably move it back another 1/8 because after I break through the “new toy” feeling, I start to feel the tightness in my shoulders and the pin float pattern he pointed out…. And that was just ONE OF THE SEVERAL THINGS HE WORKED WITH ME ON!!!! If you can get to one of his courses, you will not regret it… he severely under prices them for the information and hands on he gives you… Hey Chris, you should get with a local shop up there and get them to host o workshop with him and you, that would sale like hotcakes!!!
I always thought and was told that most people are shooting too long of a draw length. I’m a 28 inch draw and with these newer Mathews they seem to run a little long on me. I’m shooting a 27.5 mod on my V3X and my V3. But my Triax is a 28 And fits me just as well.
Thank you! I am not shooting a hinge at this point but thinking thru the release keeping pressure on third finger while letting the first finger relax is really helping me . Eliminating the face pressure also is helping ,I have been doing that without knowing how big of a deal that is.... See you at TAC next year!
Agree on hinge but feel like alot of people get hung up on index finger. U have pressure on that it slows or stops rotation. Like trying to drive fast with parking brake on
The real key is to teach people to set up a hinge properly. That is to set up a hinge so cold that it basically cant go off. so very cold and draw with even pressure on all 3 fingers. get the idea out of your head that you have to keep all this pressure on your index finger. Then slowly make the release hotter and hotter until the release clicks as you anchor or anchor and with a slight amount of preload you are into the click. This way you draw the bow with even pressure across all the fingers on the release. hit anchor.. and click. Then all you do is apply that extra load to the 3rd finger and pull through and the arrow will be gone. good luck!
Good Evening Chris. I have primarily had a special place in my heart for long-range shooting and reloading; however, I am being stationed somewhere where most of my rifles are illegal, which has left me to adopt a new hobby (archery) as I do love to hunt as well. At first, I was set on getting a crossbow; however, seeing you collaborate with Kaitlyn and Lee, Drew and Kendall, all of you have motivated me to try this out. I'm more of a buy once, cry once kind of guy, so next month I will be taking the dive into this new world. Thus far, I've read that Hoyt and Mathews are the two biggest flagship bow companies, but from there, it seems never-ending. I'm in high hopes that, just like anything with repetition, you get better the more you do it. I plan to shoot as much as possible before this year's deer season. Happy New Year, and shoot straight.
Great to meet you at the Kicking Bear Charity! I’m happy I wasn’t embarrassed to about the grain of my arrows, learning that 500 is my spine and I believe The # .245 would be for the grain? I shoot consistently at 40 yrds. Practice will make perfect… up in my tree stand. But I want to make sure I’m working with the proper arrows. 🤙 Your videos are excellent, thank you!
When i was competing, my holding weight was 18-20lbs.. (this causes more string tension, & is less critical & letoff was much less then.) of course i retired in 2000 (Kirk Ethridge) back then most people had bows with too long a draw length. Keeping scope centered in peep, & having it drawn back exact distance is whats important,, all that hard anchoring on the face just hurts you (use a draw check) I think the many high scores today are because of good coaching/education available today tell george i said hello.. Excellent tips by the way!!
Thanks Chris for sharing your knowledge. I shoot my bow daily and am always trying to become a better archer. The video you did about the formula for adding length and weight to a stabilizer. Perfect Thanks again
If you shoot a thumb button, would the same concept apply for releasing the shot? I’m assuming once you’re ready to shoot, place your thumb on the trigger then apply pressure through the ring ringer?
Wow....Gran verdad has dicho Chris...Ves como es ? Todos los días se aprende algo nuevo! Hermano Dios te bendiga siempre... Abrazo grande desde Argentina.
Hey, Thank for the tips. A quick on ( I am right hand dominant with Left eye dominant). What will be your tip? To get the RH bow and retrain for the left hand ( Same eye dominant), or shoot with both eyes with the dominant hand, and if so, can i move the sight - etc? Cheers!
I bought the Hinge 2, but i have an amputation on the tip of my index (right hand). Its recent, and pulling on the release was just too much pressure on the nubby finger. I was sad when I realized that it wouldn't work for me. But I traded them for 3 sticks with 1 step aiders and $50.
@chrisbee I have the new V3X33 with the new QAD Mathews integrate dropaway with the micro adjustments. Shooting Easton FMJ with standard 2” blazer vanes, that usually comes on the arrows. I can’t decide if I should have the odd vane facing up or out? The QAD is narrow and my theory is the overall width of vanes is less if the odd vane is up because it puts the vanes in a downward angle.
Hi Chris, I found your coach on RUclips but his name is spelled George Ryals. It's misspelled George Riles on 1 part in the caption on your video, easy mistake to make. Great Advice! Great Video! I always appreciate learning from all your video's. All very helpful every time!! Thank You Chris!!
Is there a limit to accuracy if I'm not using a release I've never used one before but I can never seen to get a bullseye, I seen to shoot circles around it
Was actually just watching a vid of Griv’s, and you were in it! One thing I noticed, no one in that vid has a significant bend in your wrist, even yours wasn’t as bad as you were showing here. No one had the forearm higher than the elbow. For most, that’s an indication of shooting a too long bow, or, more likely, too long of a release head and D-loop. I’ve found most that aren’t shooting the right draw length are shooting too long of a bow. I would say, instead of assuming you are too short, simply find the right draw length, and know it can change from bow to bow (long ATA vs short etc)
I shoot with two or three fingers and click-no click fulkrums. With two fingers it's mostly trusting the process, pull through and let it go. But I regularly lose the Faith so then I'll shoot with three fingers. With three fingersI imagine my third finger having a line connected to my draw elbow tip and I tighten my back and third finger to get the release to rotate, while feeling my third finger being pulled by my elbow. Sounds tricky, but it works.
Thanks Chris! Working hard to improve my game so I’ll take this under advisement. When i bought my new bow last week i told them my draw length was 28. Both guys on site were instructors and both said my dl was too short. We added a half inch to it and it made a difference. They still think i need to go another 1/2 so I’ll be trying that soon. Again, thx
Best thing changed me was single pin sight and fall away rest. That single pin is the same sight picture every time like a gun. Got me an extra 20 yards hunting white tails. Cheap True Glow Range Rover is what I use.
What should I do for different arrow spines? 60lb 70lb or 80lb draw weight. Love this video too. I think my draw length is too short. I kept the same draw length for the last 14 years since I was 15, might need a new bow
I loooooove the nose button...i only touch with my hand and very very light on my nose but i did put a lil nose pressure on as soon as im anchored just to feel exact where on my nose im touching( especially in treestand with frozen nose) then id back off pressure til is almost not touching and that all took time..nose button shortened my sequence a good second, prob closer to 2...as soon as i touch my nose i can tell exactly where im at on my nose and instantly kinda check my pressure and move on through my sequence...there no more almost pause there to get my nose touch point exact..it also made room for a moutain man like beard and stache !!!! Freakin woot !! wich i always had kept cut specifically for archery and lateral string pressure...2 decades ago i tried a littl piece of serving for a nose button wrapped around the string into a lil ball bout size of a brass nock point and waxed it...but the feel is different...felt more presice maybe but it didnt make room tween face and string and still rubbed my nose around to feel exact where i was...so eventually just forgot to put it on during the build or string change and just let it go...when i saw the buttons i gave another shot...i use the small one...it made plenty of room for beard and this winter even when frozen i could still feel those little points...ententionally said no brand..not endorsing nobody...just food for thought
Big fan and many thanks for the insights. I shoot a Mathews phase4 for a year. While adjusting the windage my sight end up partly hidden (right side). What could be the reason behind it ? Is it normal or there is something that requires the adjustment . In the meantime the bow shoots well from up to 75 yards 😃 thank you
thanks for bringing up to keep away from touching the string at all. the pro's get away with it cuz they do it every day and do it the same. But its irritating to watch ppl pig nose the string. There is only 4 things to archery. The peep sight your front sight and the target. If u line those 3 things up and don't interfere with anything in the middle you will hit the same every time 👌 Am I right Chris?
Can a peek sight be to big? I don't like the one on my bow. I can see the world through it. I feel like I want a smaller diameter peep so I can aim small
Why do some people get rid of the click sound on a hinge release? My archery shop I go to. My hinge release had the click and the archery guy turned it off on it.
I stopped shooting a bow 15 years ago. Got back into it and boy have I been struggling…. And now that it’s bow here in Michigan it’s even harder to get a buddy to watch over and criticize form and whatnot lol
Just to let you know Chris that I have been so frustrated over shooting to the left and made the mistake of moving my sight and my rest with the same results. After watching your video I was eager to go and shoot tonight to put what you said to the test. Voilà 😀. Now I’m shooting to the right and that’s remedied by moving my rest and sight back where they belong. In 2 days I shall be 66 years old. I’m living proof that you can teach an old dog new tricks. Thanks again.
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I shot as a kid, but stopped for years, got a new bow at the age of 23, the pro shop said I needed 26.5"... fought for 3 years, nobody would hear me out, they said you look good, and anymore you'll be too long... best thing I even did, tell the "pro shop" it's my bow, I'll pay to have it set up to whatever length I want. I added a half inch every week until I I hit 29". I've never shot better and have been more comfortable. Just like reloading my ammunition, tinkering around will show you alot!
I’ll back you up on that. I just got a bow a lil bit ago. Had peep sight issues, it kept moving. Long story short, the pro shop guy set my peep sight a bit low so I have to anchor, touch my nose and arch my face forward to see it instead of standing tall. Absolutely going into a diff shop to fix that soon. It’s not bad but it’s not the most comfortable, I still hit the 10 ring from 30-40yds out consistently
I agree with you because I am 12 with a 26.5 draw length
I’m 13 with a 25 inch draw length and when I get more accurate I might make my draw length more
I stopped shooting in 2018 when I joined the military and just got my first bow since then literally today. And watching your videos has been a huge help for me getting back into archery. Thank you for making these awesome videos!!! Now I just gotta go to the shop this weekend and get a sight,rest,stabilizer and arrows
Oh yeah dude . Today , tomorrow and the rest of week will all be good days combined with a little soreness 👍👍😊.
Oh I just read it’s not set up yet . But when it is …look out
@@Hungrybird474 yessir!!! I just need to go to the local pro shop and buy a sight rest,stabilizer, and arrows sucks because I'm on a budget and can't really buy anything too good rn just stuff that works
Echo
Thank you for your service
Get me your info.
I have an extra HHA single pin slider sight and an extra Xcel 4 pin armor Tec sight that I probably will never use again.
I’ll send you whatever one you want.
Both are rock solid sights.
I do not have any extra rests.
I just got rid of a Hamskea Trinity I had laying around.
Thanks for your service ☺️
I am 58 and just starting with bow hunting (my brother gave me a bow) and these tips are awesome. My local sporting goods store is re-stringing the bow before I get started and now I have some real helpful information to get those personal configurations done when it's ready. Thanks.
I’m fairly new to bow hunting. I learned more in this one video than I have in 100 other peoples videos combined. Thank you!
I got rid of face pressure after watching this video and it made a huge difference in my accuracy and consistency. Thank you!
Chris, your tip about anchor points instantly improved my accuracy - a quantum leap forward actually! All my shots were decently grouped but to the left of the aiming point. Making your adjustment has me drilling bullseyes now. Thank you.
Great video, last year I had a few shoulder surgeries so is been over a year that I shoot my bow, I am trying to get back in shape so I am starting from the basics.
I’m late to the CLICK when shooting a hinge, I realize now maybe not enough pressure on my 3rd finger, something for me to work on, thanks for the tips Chris your the best man!
This type of video is great, especially the hinge tips. I’ve been shooting the hinge for a year now and have had a really tough time getting consistent with it. Just can’t seem to shoot it well. I would suggest making another video on how to shoot a hinge. It is hard to find good content on this. I’ll try these tips and see if they help. Thanks
This is your best video. It is good for my children, good for people I help, and the ring finger advice...that is golden advice for me, the hinge shooter. Thanks, Chris.
Been catching some of your videos here and there along with the other stuff I watch,right now I'm doing a complete tune out on an old golden eagle bow and the arrows shooting at 77 lbs. I am getting a slight tail left with everything tuned and dialed in, trying to find out why the slight tail left then I watched the video oh hello face pressure on the string . You don't give it much thought but with a heavy draw you will instinctively hard anchor without thinking about it the video was a great reminder and your explanation of these issues are great I'll be watching more of your videos great tutorials Chris thanks
This was game changing. I moved my draw length back half an inch and felt much smoother. Thank you for the video
Been bow hunting for 10 years. Started with a hand me down Parker bow self taught basically shot a few deer but also missed a few . Finally bought a new bow this year and didn't realize how bad everything was with my old bow lol. Was making too much face contact on the sting was shooting like an inch and half short on my draw. Now I'm learning how to shoot all over again with a bow that was built for me.
I just got my first compound since I stopped shooting at 14 (27 now). RUclipss algorithm recommended your channel right after googling “used compound bows”. Solidly entertaining content! Especially for an archery channel! But between this video and a few of the other educational vids I’ve watched of yours I’ve cleaned up my shooting and form quite a lot in the past couple weeks. And most importantly am not building some bad habits I’m sure I would have if it wasn’t for a few of your educational videos. Keep it up and stay real!
We need more videos like this!
Thanks a lot Chris... So I was occasionally having to adjust my sight. I would usually shoot to the left or right after coming back to the bow after a few days. I could never understand why I kept needing to adjust. Well, I tried the face contact part aftet a few regular shots and to my surprise, after I made sure the string was not on my face with any pressure, my shot began shooting about 6 inches to the right. WTF!!! And the grouping tightened up. Great info bro!!!
Thanks so much Chris I just went from shooting a 10 inch grouping at 60 to touching aarows just from my shoulder being to high.
Absolutely spot on with all 3 tips, especially regarding a hinge release which I transitioned to about a year ago.
I've recently gotten the itch to purchase my first compound bow. I'm actually going to go to a pro shop this weekend to try some things out. I'm thinking about going with a mission archery MXR or Switch, I actually watched your beginner bow setup video with the HAMR, but I'd made my mission decision before then. Just wanted to say your videos have been super helpful! I'm sure I'll be back re-watching them once I get setup and shooting.
Because of the tip for face contact I was able to diagnose why my bow would almost always trend left, and thanks to you I’m dialed in now!
Thanks for this very informative posting. You're point about people with beards is so timely. We broke the world record for the longest Covid lockdown periods here in the state Victoria, Australia. Working from home, my regular haircut and beard trimming schedule 'went to the pack'. My groups were getting inexplicably larger, with more and more very disconcerting 'flyers', for reasons I couldn't explain. It wasn't until my partner asked me how I could possibly comfortably practice "with all that bushy facial hair in way" that I woke up. One good severe facial buzzing later and my pre-covid groups returned with even a few of 'Robinhoods' to prove the point.
I actually recently changed my form a bit and I found that good form really helps
I might do it wrong, but I have no face contact to the string at all.
I have my way to anchor and just look through the peep and then it is my sight with the pins.
That is the 3 points I use and have never felt the need for a 4th one by using a kisser or touch some place on my face with the string.
I also normally use a face mask when I hunt and I don't want to get near that when I shoot.
I am not a competition shooter, but I manage plenty fine to hit the kill zone of the animals I hunt out to distances that I normally would not take because of wind, chances for the animal to naturally move to much before the arrow hits and so on.
Thank you for sharing. You mention focusing on your third finger. When you draw back with a hinge do you draw back with your thumb and index finger or with your ring finger?
Your first tip is exactly what I'm doing and I've never noticed until i saw you do it. So thank you for this tip
I added a soft rubber kisser button at nose level. It is a very flimsy rubber kisser that even with a bit of pressure wont effect my string movement. I can get that extra point of contact but not direct on the string. It has helped immensely with my accuracy.
I've been shooting for years. No one mentioned face pressure (or I wasn't listening). I just tried a few shots with that in mind and the difference was obvious! Thanks!
Chris, I came back to this video to mention I found having too long draw length was my reason for losing accuracy at longer distances. I thought this was because of not being as precise holding on target but reducing my draw length by only half an inch has made a big difference. I'm sure too short DL would likewise effect accuracy. Thanks for instructional as well as hunting videos.
Watched this video last night and after the range session today I had to come back and say thank you. 3rd finger rotation and face pressure made a huge difference.
Im 11 years old and you have helped with my archery carrer so much so keep up the work
Talking about shooting with a to short draw length.
I know to much about that since my DL is 32"
When I started to hunt with a compound bow in 1986 and I was finger shooting, it was extremely hard to find a bow that I could hunt with and have a decent form.
And since I didn't know so much at that time and had no one to teach me, I did a few strange things.
One of them was finger shooting with 2 fingers only with my 70 lbs Bear Hurricane XL bow with way less let off than now as I knew nothing about using 3 fingers on the string.
D loops and releases have made things so very much better.
I remember when there was all this overdraw hype.
A totally stupid idea that I never understood the point of.
Maybe because I already had plenty DL.
I get something for free by having my draw length, but I don't have many bows to choose from.
There have been a few bows over the years that I really wanted to buy, but they never made them for people with my wingspan.
As a new archer you and school of knock have been awesome for learning about how to shoot a bow
I haven't shot since the eighties. I've got a V3X coming tomorrow. Been getting a lot of great advice from you and can't wait to put it into action.
How'd it go
George told me this two weeks ago when he was working with me at a workshop… we moved my my draw back an inch that day and it felt great… I’ve since moved it another 1/8 of an inch to a clean 29 inches (27.25 pivot point to nock) using the 28.5 mods on my trx36 (had to add 4 twist to the string, all the mods measure about 5/8’s long)… I’ll probably move it back another 1/8 because after I break through the “new toy” feeling, I start to feel the tightness in my shoulders and the pin float pattern he pointed out…. And that was just ONE OF THE SEVERAL THINGS HE WORKED WITH ME ON!!!! If you can get to one of his courses, you will not regret it… he severely under prices them for the information and hands on he gives you… Hey Chris, you should get with a local shop up there and get them to host o workshop with him and you, that would sale like hotcakes!!!
Your form tip vids are really helpful. Thanks!
Glad you like them!
I always thought and was told that most people are shooting too long of a draw length.
I’m a 28 inch draw and with these newer Mathews they seem to run a little long on me. I’m shooting a 27.5 mod on my V3X and my V3.
But my Triax is a 28 And fits me just as well.
Thank you! I am not shooting a hinge at this point but thinking thru the release keeping pressure on third finger while letting the first finger relax is really helping me . Eliminating the face pressure also is helping ,I have been doing that without knowing how big of a deal that is....
See you at TAC next year!
Thanks Chris I’m switching from a wrist strap to a thumb for a more consistent anchor every time
Agree on hinge but feel like alot of people get hung up on index finger. U have pressure on that it slows or stops rotation. Like trying to drive fast with parking brake on
Adopted a very light anchor and my longer range groups (50 yds, 60 yds) definitely tightened up.
Thanks for the pointers! Trying to get the hang of shooting a bow for the first time in probably 8 years or more.
The real key is to teach people to set up a hinge properly. That is to set up a hinge so cold that it basically cant go off. so very cold and draw with even pressure on all 3 fingers. get the idea out of your head that you have to keep all this pressure on your index finger.
Then slowly make the release hotter and hotter until the release clicks as you anchor or anchor and with a slight amount of preload you are into the click.
This way you draw the bow with even pressure across all the fingers on the release. hit anchor.. and click. Then all you do is apply that extra load to the 3rd finger and pull through and the arrow will be gone. good luck!
Thanks for that information that actually helps a lot and let's hope that this fixes my problems and makes things a little easier.
Glad it helped!
Your video on target panic where you do sets of 50 at 3 yds then 5 etc has helped. Thank you my friend.
I’m only starting into this sport, face pressure makes a lot of sense especially the way you have shown and explained it. Thank you.
Good Evening Chris.
I have primarily had a special place in my heart for long-range shooting and reloading; however, I am being stationed somewhere where most of my rifles are illegal, which has left me to adopt a new hobby (archery) as I do love to hunt as well. At first, I was set on getting a crossbow; however, seeing you collaborate with Kaitlyn and Lee, Drew and Kendall, all of you have motivated me to try this out. I'm more of a buy once, cry once kind of guy, so next month I will be taking the dive into this new world. Thus far, I've read that Hoyt and Mathews are the two biggest flagship bow companies, but from there, it seems never-ending. I'm in high hopes that, just like anything with repetition, you get better the more you do it. I plan to shoot as much as possible before this year's deer season. Happy New Year, and shoot straight.
Great to meet you at the Kicking Bear Charity! I’m happy I wasn’t embarrassed to about the grain of my arrows, learning that 500 is my spine and I believe The # .245 would be for the grain? I shoot consistently at 40 yrds. Practice will make perfect… up in my tree stand. But I want to make sure I’m working with the proper arrows. 🤙 Your videos are excellent, thank you!
I think .245 is either the inside or outside diameter of your arrow and not your grain u could be wrong tho
Thank you! I’m pretty sure I’m wrong. The things I need to learn 😁
When i was competing, my holding weight was 18-20lbs.. (this causes more string tension, & is less critical & letoff was much less then.) of course i retired in 2000 (Kirk Ethridge) back then most people had bows with too long a draw length. Keeping scope centered in peep, & having it drawn back exact distance is whats important,, all that hard anchoring on the face just hurts you (use a draw check) I think the many high scores today are because of good coaching/education available today tell george i said hello.. Excellent tips by the way!!
Thanks Chris for sharing your knowledge. I shoot my bow daily and am always trying to become a better archer. The video you did about the formula for adding length and weight to a stabilizer. Perfect
Thanks again
Great video.
What are your thoughts about shortening up draw length a bit to achieve more clearance. ie need to hunt in heavier clothes etc.
If you shoot a thumb button, would the same concept apply for releasing the shot? I’m assuming once you’re ready to shoot, place your thumb on the trigger then apply pressure through the ring ringer?
Wow....Gran verdad has dicho Chris...Ves como es ? Todos los días se aprende algo nuevo! Hermano Dios te bendiga siempre... Abrazo grande desde Argentina.
Congratulations on the shop setup, Chris. Thanks for the free Ultraview shirt in Vegas. I'm new to your videos.
Hey, Thank for the tips. A quick on ( I am right hand dominant with Left eye dominant). What will be your tip? To get the RH bow and retrain for the left hand ( Same eye dominant), or shoot with both eyes with the dominant hand, and if so, can i move the sight - etc? Cheers!
I bought the Hinge 2, but i have an amputation on the tip of my index (right hand). Its recent, and pulling on the release was just too much pressure on the nubby finger. I was sad when I realized that it wouldn't work for me. But I traded them for 3 sticks with 1 step aiders and $50.
Thanks Chris! good things to think about and work on, helped alot.
@chrisbee I have the new V3X33 with the new QAD Mathews integrate dropaway with the micro adjustments.
Shooting Easton FMJ with standard 2” blazer vanes, that usually comes on the arrows.
I can’t decide if I should have the odd vane facing up or out?
The QAD is narrow and my theory is the overall width of vanes is less if the odd vane is up because it puts the vanes in a downward angle.
Hi Chris, I found your coach on RUclips but his name is spelled George Ryals. It's misspelled George Riles on 1 part in the caption on your video, easy mistake to make. Great Advice! Great Video! I always appreciate learning from all your video's. All very helpful every time!! Thank You Chris!!
Hey Chris! Great information, I just got your Beereal grip for my matthews v3x, amazing how much it improved my arrow group size! Thanks
Face pressure tip just changed the game for me man
Thank you!!
Is there a limit to accuracy if I'm not using a release I've never used one before but I can never seen to get a bullseye, I seen to shoot circles around it
So if I get this correctly, bows with higher let off (and subsequently holding less of actual weight at full draw) is more sensitive to face pressure?
Anchor points are the biggest tip for any beginner imo. Then moving on from an index release
Thanks for the helpful video. Do you use this release for hunting, & if so do you switch it so there is no click?
Was actually just watching a vid of Griv’s, and you were in it!
One thing I noticed, no one in that vid has a significant bend in your wrist, even yours wasn’t as bad as you were showing here. No one had the forearm higher than the elbow.
For most, that’s an indication of shooting a too long bow, or, more likely, too long of a release head and D-loop.
I’ve found most that aren’t shooting the right draw length are shooting too long of a bow.
I would say, instead of assuming you are too short, simply find the right draw length, and know it can change from bow to bow (long ATA vs short etc)
Very helpful video for someone like me who is just getting into archery
Would like to see a segment on how a d where you anchor to keep minimal pressure on the string. Thx👍
I shoot with two or three fingers and click-no click fulkrums. With two fingers it's mostly trusting the process, pull through and let it go. But I regularly lose the Faith so then I'll shoot with three fingers. With three fingersI imagine my third finger having a line connected to my draw elbow tip and I tighten my back and third finger to get the release to rotate, while feeling my third finger being pulled by my elbow.
Sounds tricky, but it works.
Thanks Chris! Working hard to improve my game so I’ll take this under advisement. When i bought my new bow last week i told them my draw length was 28. Both guys on site were instructors and both said my dl was too short. We added a half inch to it and it made a difference. They still think i need to go another 1/2 so I’ll be trying that soon. Again, thx
Best thing changed me was single pin sight and fall away rest. That single pin is the same sight picture every time like a gun. Got me an extra 20 yards hunting white tails. Cheap True Glow Range Rover is what I use.
Love the hoodie I have the same one. This spoke to me a lot to me thanks
What is the little piece of blue string material just above your peep. Also is that a clarifier peep.
I never thought of face contact. Makes sense. Thanks for the tip.
Just starting shooting.. I’ve been watching a lot of your videos. Glad I found this.. thanks for the info
What should I do for different arrow spines? 60lb 70lb or 80lb draw weight. Love this video too. I think my draw length is too short. I kept the same draw length for the last 14 years since I was 15, might need a new bow
Absolutely, this guy knows his stuff! I want to take a minute and say thank you, I truly appreciate the time you took to make this channel!
Great video Chris! I've also seen many people at bow shoots having to long of a draw length, causing major face pressure.
I loooooove the nose button...i only touch with my hand and very very light on my nose but i did put a lil nose pressure on as soon as im anchored just to feel exact where on my nose im touching( especially in treestand with frozen nose) then id back off pressure til is almost not touching and that all took time..nose button shortened my sequence a good second, prob closer to 2...as soon as i touch my nose i can tell exactly where im at on my nose and instantly kinda check my pressure and move on through my sequence...there no more almost pause there to get my nose touch point exact..it also made room for a moutain man like beard and stache !!!! Freakin woot !! wich i always had kept cut specifically for archery and lateral string pressure...2 decades ago i tried a littl piece of serving for a nose button wrapped around the string into a lil ball bout size of a brass nock point and waxed it...but the feel is different...felt more presice maybe but it didnt make room tween face and string and still rubbed my nose around to feel exact where i was...so eventually just forgot to put it on during the build or string change and just let it go...when i saw the buttons i gave another shot...i use the small one...it made plenty of room for beard and this winter even when frozen i could still feel those little points...ententionally said no brand..not endorsing nobody...just food for thought
Appreciate the educational vids Chris🤝🐝
Big fan and many thanks for the insights. I shoot a Mathews phase4 for a year. While adjusting the windage my sight end up partly hidden (right side). What could be the reason behind it ? Is it normal or there is something that requires the adjustment . In the meantime the bow shoots well from up to 75 yards 😃 thank you
You give me the confidence to keep going thanks so much
thanks for bringing up to keep away from touching the string at all. the pro's get away with it cuz they do it every day and do it the same. But its irritating to watch ppl pig nose the string. There is only 4 things to archery. The peep sight your front sight and the target. If u line those 3 things up and don't interfere with anything in the middle you will hit the same every time 👌 Am I right Chris?
Bowmar nose button was the best $10 I ever spent for my bow helps you anchor and regulate face pressure!
Can a peek sight be to big? I don't like the one on my bow. I can see the world through it. I feel like I want a smaller diameter peep so I can aim small
B what bowstrings do you recommend? Also I am shooting a VXR 28 looking for heavy flat shooting heavy hitting arrows what arrows do you recommend
that was a much needed video for a lot of us. me included. More like that would be a feast.
Great video as always! I didn't realize I've been doing everything wrong this whole time.
Isn't back shoulder position more impacted by d loop length than draw length?
Good tips! Very Helpful
Thankyou Chris, these Top 3 Tips are fantastic keep them coming 👌
Why do some people get rid of the click sound on a hinge release? My archery shop I go to. My hinge release had the click and the archery guy turned it off on it.
I stopped shooting a bow 15 years ago. Got back into it and boy have I been struggling….
And now that it’s bow here in Michigan it’s even harder to get a buddy to watch over and criticize form and whatnot lol
Thanks for the tips Chris. Greatly appreciated.keep the videos Coming.
What’s the difference with smaller and larger peep sights though
Bro I literally freaked when I heard you were from my home state. Thanks for the great content.
I had surgery on my pull shoulder last October. I have tried pulling my normal pull weight and can’t. What can I do to build back to pull strength
Is it the same thing with a resistance release aid?
The video I’ve been waiting for nice stuff Chris I never get tired of watching your videos.🤙🏻
What hinge are you liking this days? Any brands or models that you would recommend?
Good video!
Who makes that arm mounted light on the wall?
Just to let you know Chris that I have been so frustrated over shooting to the left and made the mistake of moving my sight and my rest with the same results. After watching your video I was eager to go and shoot tonight to put what you said to the test. Voilà 😀. Now I’m shooting to the right and that’s remedied by moving my rest and sight back where they belong. In 2 days I shall be 66 years old. I’m living proof that you can teach an old dog new tricks. Thanks again.