3 ADVANCED Archery Mistakes I Wish I Learned Earlier
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2024
- Advanced archery mistakes I wish I had learned at a much early age. Learn from my mistakes, and put these lessons into action!
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Can I just say, you continue to put out the most grounded, thoughtful content there is an archery. Not self-promotion, just darn good coaching
Thank you so much! This is very kind of you to say. I just want to help as best as I can!
Great video! What I really liked was that you did not talk for 15 minutes to explain what you were going to do. You got right into it! Bravo!
You changed my archery bro. I followed your technique a year and a half ago and now I get a surprise release all the time.
That is so awesome to hear! This is very inspiring to us knowing the impact we've had on you, even from several years ago. We hope we can continue to elevate your archery game!
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7 month senior shooter; OMG your education on letting it float and stop worrying about keeping it steady is100% true. This week I tried your recommendation. I'm hitting the bullseye with allot more convinced. Accuracy rate went up 12%. Great video
I was a competitive target archer in my teens. I am now in my 60's and has roughly a 40 year gap in shooting. Instruction here is EXCELLENT because I can look back at how much better I was in my teens. Of course, more practice, better eyesight and other factors. But even with older equipment, my technique was better. Well - at 20 yds. With today's equipment I am much better at 30 yds plus due to range finders and arrow velocity.
My point is, that this is excellent instruction. I am relearning a lot of things from 40 plus years of not shooting and also learning with new equipment. Simple example ... I shot a 35# recurve with three fingers on the string. Now a 70# compound with 85% let off and a thumb release.
Thanks for your channel. Keep it up!!
All great advice 👍🏼 Thanks for sharing
Probably the best archery video I’ve seen in a long time. Been a bow tech for a while now and I couldn’t agree more with everything you’re saying in this video. Well said sir
Wow, thank you so much! As a tech, I’m glad to hear you are still striving to educate yourself and continue to learn as it’s a never ending thing. The archery community needs more quality bow technicians!
This is the highest quality video (on any topic really) Ive seen in a long time! Great presentation!!
Thank you so much!
ANOTHER great video Mr. It should be mandatory every new archer watch this before they can leave the bow shop. There are literally thousands of shooters ( watch about any TAC event video) that are wasting their everything in archery because they are punching the release. 👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥👀👀👀
Well done! Great video-really nice imagery to illustrate these concepts. 🙌🏼
Thank you! I'm glad everything came across very clear
Great Channel brother. Your vids are worth watching many times. Thanks for giving back!
Thank you so much!
I'm only in the first 2 minutes and you've already gained a new sub great job and great explanations.
Cannot agree more with your closing statement about more practice & less spending on gear thinking that it will fix the problem.... Still have my "diamond" 300$ bow and it has never been "tuned" nor anything "proper" or expensive fitted to it.... and for what it is , it holds up to my Mathews and Hoyt bows........ The more I learn and practice the better all my bows are shooting without any changes being made to them.
Awesome tips, and great channel !! Thanks !!
You guys are the biggest reason for my tremendous strides in successful archery. I can now put my pin on the target, pull thru a shot and get a surprise release. You transformed my form, execution and release. Please keep the info coming you're helping so many. Thank you!!!
Wow, thank you so much! Comments like this push us to continue sharing what we have been so fortunate to learn. We are so grateful that we have had the impact on you that we have. Keep up the great shooting!
Yes - expand this. Great video - do a separate video for all three tips!
I followed the look at the target and not the pin video to make the pin blurry couple of months ago and I also started shooting two eyes open and I have a perfect release every time I think I might be one of the best in my family!
Great video, it really hit on a lot of things that beginners and advanced archers need to know. I spend a lot of time on making sure my bow and setup is perfect, but that can't compensate for lack of practicing. Likewise the blurry pin/target in focus point has been a game changer for me.
Thank you for taking the time to share your invaluable wisdom with your community. I personally thank you for explaining your failures so that I will gain success by following these steps
You are so welcome! Thank you so much for watching and we hope it helps you!
Thanks that has been invaluable advice thankyou 👍👍👍
Such a good video!! Thank you for all your help 🤘🤘 everything you said makes perfect sense. 🙏🙏🙏
You really helping me improve my skills. Thanks
very very good description of the key !❤ thank you very much for all of us … a Fan🎉
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This is so good!
Cool video, I learned a lot. One thing I just saw with sighting in putting a piece of tape vertical and horizontal and sight in your average that way. Doing vertical shoot 6 to 7 arrows, see where the average is and adjust accordingly, and same with horizontal. And your center shot will come in. But best advice you gave, practice, practice, practice. And focus on form. Graet advice.
Great advice!
All great advice. Thanks. One thing I've found helpful when sighting in, is to only sight in windage shooting a piece of long masking tape mounted vertically. Then sight in my elevation on a piece of long horizontal tape. It really shows your averages, and it's much easier focusing on one sighting plane at time. Once again. Great video!
I do that exact same thing, Helps a ton!
I do the same@@JamesVanGriff
Thank you! This is so educational and taking these three mistakes and working on my skills in archery. Thank you Thank you
Thank you! We are glad you found value in it and we hope it improves your archery game!
Great tips!
Thank you!
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Great advice, really helped with reducing flinching
Fantastic video!!
Very good video. Keep it simple
Thank you very much!!! This is a very good video!!!
You describe everything very correctly and I immediately feel caught out by these three mistakes.
The video is also of very good quality and the camera settings, as well as the different framings help a lot to understand the content even better.
Thank you once again for your great work!!!👍👍👍
MORE OF THESE TOPICS PLEASE
Thank you so much for the comment! I'm glad you found value in this video and we will continue to produce more!
All well, said! I’m old now, have been there and done that! Your advice is spot on! Smart young man! Great form and to be honest I had to re-visit your cast to refresh myself on Thumb button releases. But thanks to you you got the old man back on track!😅 But thanks for the refresh everything you said is spot on. Oh the pistol shooters, find the front site! And now shooters focus on the spot you want to hit! This guy is right on. Plus it calms the sole while pulling through the shot!
Great video. Words fantastically chosen. Subscribed and looking forward to your complete course. Thanks.
Thank you so much!
Good advice. Thanks dude😊
Very, very well done. Extremely helpful and encouraging. Huge thanks. Subscribed.
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The best concises advices I’ve ever seen, thanks a lot
Thank you so much!
Very informative
Great video mate. Thanks heaps. Would like to know more about mistake 2 if possible please
Really a good job! Keep doing this stuff please! 😊 thanks
Thank you!
Well done.
Good stuff!
Awesome info, Josh!
Thanks! I’m glad you found it helpful!
This video is archery gospel.
Your first thing is basically Joel Turners teachings. He helped me get over my target panic
I use LINES to help sight in my bow. Dots can lie, as you talked about. But a horizontal or vertical stretch of tape will instantly tell you whether you're high, low, left, or right.
Lastly I think tinkering should only be done during the initial stages of a bow set up. Once that's completed GET OUT AND SHOOT!
Thank you!
Good stuff, keep it coming
Thank you, well said.
This is great stuff give us more!
Thank you! More coming soon!
Been shooting for 40 years, and going to start learning to shoot with a hinge. I have always had some TP, but usually I can manage it. Just gets worse with adrenaline. Would love to see you do a whole series about what you discuss in this video.
Very,very inspiring video for us beginners.🤗🤗🤗👍👍👍🎯🎯🎯
Dude I hear you and I am going to fix that. My instructor told me about the release but I did not want to believe it. You made me change my mind!
Awesome! Do what works for you, but if you put in the work, you will find success!
Can't beat this if your new or experienced in archery
Well done mate
Well said 🤙
Great advice. Archery is hard. U must practice a lot. Been shootin for 50 yrs and still learn every practice.
This is great video. In the year I've been into this I spend a tremendous amount of time focused on the unimportant things. I've been through 3 bows a handful of releases and several arrow platforms, and what I've found is that my form has been the issue the whole time. It took allot for me to realize that the finest mussel tensions, limb, finger angles had such an affect downrange. Which help interduce target panic. Bottom line it's taking me 50k arrows practiced incorrectly to start to understand the way forward.
I sure hope others understand that everyone's trying to sell equipment, and yes straight consistent arrows are a factor, but form, correct draw length, and the discipline it takes to control shot anticipation trumps all.
We see this happen over and over. It’s so common yet it’s hard for folks to realize until they’ve been through the trials and tribulations that you have. Thank you for the comment!
Brilliant man, thank you! An absolute privilege to be able to watch and learn.
…also, how important is it to keep the bubble in the centre of the sight? I feel like I give that maybe too much emphasis when I go through my shot process
Thank you, and great question!
The bubble is important to keep level when shooting, but your focus shouldn’t be there. Before you start executing, your goal should be to center the peep, level the sight, and let your pin float on what you want to hit and then transfer that focus to your execution while you stare at what you want to hit. By consciously going back and focusing on the bubble, you will put yourself in the aim when you should be executing.
Put shortly, it’s important, but you need to set it and forget it in a sense to consistently execute good shots.
Hope this helps!
- Josh
@@BowOnlyOutdoors awesome thanks heaps for your helpful reply!
Good stuff
Good tips. I found the thing that helps the most is actually having your bows draw length perfect for you. Also having the correct d loop length for your release length. Once I did this I became alot steadier. Was shooting too long for a long time.
This is definitely a common archery mistake! Draw length and d-loop length are huge determining factors of accuracy. Thank you for the comment!
Excellent video!👍
I'm maybe four months into archery, albeit not compounds. That said the fundamentals are the same.
I have years of experience with slingshots. Every point covered is valid to both sports and at least some of them apply to many other ranged sports as well. At the moment, anchor position is my goal with archery. I tend to be a bit inconsistent and my hit elevation reflects that. I have that dialed with slingshots and it's only a matter of time/practice until I get it dialed with a bow.
In short, you can never go wrong with an obsession for the fundamentals. Get your movements right and the rest is easy.
This is gold
Thanks Travis!
What’s the best advice to help people who want to learn how to shoot better with an archery group and to be accepted in the group ? Or is it better for a person to learn to shoot better off their own back ?
Great video, I had target panic real bad, until I bought a back tension release, it cured me.
Best tip for avoiding punching the trigger, works for both rifle and bow:
1. Acquire target and confirm point of impact.
Move your corsshair / pin on the spot you are going to fire. Have your finger on the trigger but don't squeeze it. Make sure you can visit the point you are going to hit but allow the sights to do the figure 8. Relax.
2. Controlled execution
When you are ready to take the shot, start slowly squeezing when the crosshairs / pin are in correct location and STOP your finger where it is when the sights wonder off. Continue once again right on the target until you get surprised by the firing. On target.
3. Follow through
With a rifle, don't stop there, still continue aligning your sights with your target (and examine the reaction).
For a bow, let the bow drop, with good back tension allow your trigger arm to naturally fall back and keep your eyes focused on the target (and examine the reaction).
When practicing, do every step very slowly. When you get good at it, step one takes a second, step two takes whatever time it takes. You need to be in complete control of the squeeze, that is, able to stop mid squeeze any time you want.
Never skip step one as it allows you to relax while on target, making step 2 a hell of a lot easier.
Would like to know a lot more on this
FWIW, after years of shooting, I eventually developed bad target panic, I stopped shooting for nearly 30 yrs. I then found out about a tension release, it eliminated my panic and once again returned to my love of archery!! Also, I don't know how I stumbled upon it, but your comment about focusing on a point on the target, and letting the pin float increased my accuracy immensely! I don't know why it works so well, but it does?
Resistance releases are amazing tools and we are huge advocates for them for archery and bowhunting. It just takes a lot of work up front to learn them and build the confidence needed to hunt with them!
@@BowOnlyOutdoors Yes, when I first started with it, I struggled, wanting to "force it". I was surprised, however, that I soon worked more on pin floating, and then started to add the back tension and I came around much faster than I had expected. Perhaps it had something to do with wanting to be able to shoot once again that gave me the tenacity to keep trying?
Keep the useful information coming my friend. Luke 9:62
I would like more info of the 3 most common mistakes
Thanks for sharing! I’m curious about your black target. Is that one you made? If so, I think it would be cool to find out on how you did it.
Thank you! These targets are made from fiberboard that I believe came from huebertfiberboard.com/ These are a part of the public outdoor range and are fantastic targets that stand outside in the elements year round!
Thanks! What type of release aid do you prefer, especially those with wrist support?
Thank you!
Nice video
The resistance release was the only tool I’ve used that truly helped me to learn how to successfully shoot a surprise shot. I had to eliminate any trigger that I could manipulate.
Just pull.
The resistance release is an amazing tool! Its a commitment to learn, but well worth the time and effort.
Good video
Thank you!
Yes please
Very beginning you state did you see it did you see it. What I thought while observing was on the right video photo was more face pressure and a drop of the bow arm to observe end result X ….but ❤❤
"regardless" counter is Dudley-level ;)
I’m shooting an ultraview thumb button with back tension, but struggle sometimes getting it to break. Curious how you or others have the travel set as well as the force. I have mine as sensitive as possible. Thanks for the info!
I don’t have any travel in my thumb buttons when shooting them with back tension, but I set the trigger medium to heavy so I can wrap my thumb and preload the release more. You have to be able to continuously feel the pressure building on your thumb as you pull, or it will not fire. A light trigger will be harder to control, because it’s harder to feel the pressure building on the trigger. We will have a video coming soon on different ways to shoot a thumb release so be sure to check that out as well!
@@BowOnlyOutdoors thanks for the reply and looking forward to it. I have a similar story as you. Went from years of target panic (without knowing it). switched to a resistance release for years and now am finally comfortable with no anxiety and no trigger punching, so trying to transition to thumb button.
Great advice. Agreed, but I want to know your opinion on advice 1 and compared to James Lutz as well as Kyle Douglas. Command shooting and Shot IQ. I like your suggestions. I also have my own style. Works for me.
Ps love your last advice the most. Shoot shoot and shoot.
The guys you mentioned are way better archers than myself, but here’s my thoughts on this. My first mistake I speak about is how the vast majority of archers will perform their best shooting wise. If you can shoot forcing the shot and do it accurately with none of the issues I spoke about, there’s no reason to change. There’s a very small percentage of people that can shoot this way and do it accurately, but some folks like the ones you mentioned do, and do it unbelievably well. You’ll notice they set up their bows completely different to do this, putting tons of weight on their stabilizers and increasing their holding weight on their bows to 20lbs+ at full draw to sustain it. This effectively helps them keep their pin dead still, but only for a short period of time. The anxiety from punching is tied to our visual interpretation of the pins relative to the target. By them loading up their bows super heavy and having very high holding weights. They can effectively not have the movement in the pin that causes the anxiety with it, but they can’t hold it there forever so the surprise execution does not work. If you could hold the pin dead in the middle and force the shot while never holding off the target, this would undoubtedly be the most accurate way to shoot, it’s just that the vast majority of archers cannot do this, so to recommend it would not be as beneficial for most people. Ultimately, you have to take the information that you learn and apply it to yourself to figure out what works best for you, as it’s not a one size fits all.
How light should your trigger be set ?
It’s personal preference, but a heavier trigger is generally easier to have more control over than a light one.
Do you have a video on close ups of the grip. I only use my thumb with pressure from the pulled string, my fingers are loose next to the grip. Maybe wrong form?
Yes! Check out our learn archery playlist and look at our “how to correctly grip a bow” video
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One archery topic that’s seldom talked about is the mental attitude you may have. There are thousands of archers intimidated about making a shot. Whether it’s 20 yards or a hundred. They have the thought “ I HOPE I can “. You can 100% make this thinking go away. When you set yourself and the equipment correctly the rest is up to you. The minute you have gained total control of the shot process your mindset will almost instantly change. IMO, the single most important part is your ability to control the release. Like Josh shows in this video and other videos on their channel. Your confidence will be like you’ve never had. The anxiety you may have had just looking at that 45 yard 3-d target will be gone. Instead of just hanging foam like you used to think you will be thinking what spot you’re going hit. This confidence will lead you to wanting to and enjoying shooting more and more. This is what every archer needs to strive for. Just saying! 👍👍
So true! Thanks Tim!
Well said and true. My phase 4 might be nice, but my little bear archery limitless 50lb guy felt better in ky hands and would probably still kill a deer at 40-50 yards. Its not about the setup. Sake goes with most trades.
I use a wrist strap and always have...when I 1st started and every once in a while these days I try the pull pull pull till it breaks and the issue is....my dot is pretty rock solid on the X, but when I start pulling harder, the dot goes way out of the yellow...so I "trust the float" and the arrow never goes in the yellow....so I just command shoot....I'm very good at it and I don't consider it target panic...it is a slow squeeze, like a rifle and my arrow is always in the yellow.....should I keep shooting this way? Or should I keep trying the surprise thing? Thanks
Pulling harder against the back wall won’t make a wrist strap release fire. You can build pressure against the trigger by pulling slowly and steadily against the back wall and focusing on your finger, but if you struggle with float because of it, a slow squeeze from your finger will work much better. It sounds like this is what you’re doing already, and if you have no issues with it, theres no reason to change. A slow squeeze on the trigger until it fires is different than a command shot, and I would encourage you to master that slow steady squeeze rather than force the shot when the pin is in the middle. Hard for me to speak more on it to you specifically without seeing you shoot, but I hope you find this helpful!
3rd point is key. Dont get caught up in the nitty gritty. Consistent practice is what kills the most deer, not ideal arrow builds/bow set ups
I was shooting better with an old €350 bow putting little to no time into my set up before I got an expensive hoyt that I was constantly tweaking..
Yes go deeper
I shoot my bow strictly from blinds. I can never see the peep sight at dusk or dawn because its so much darker in blind than outside. now NY lets us hunt 30 mins before sunrise and after sunset. I cant take advantage of this extra time. does anyone have any ideas? do they make a glow in dark peep?
Experiment with different peep sizes. A bigger peep will let more light in but will be harder to center. You may experiment with different ways of centering the peep too. You don’t need to necessarily see the peep, you just have to look through it. If you can’t see the edges of the peep clear enough to align with your sight housing, just try centering your target in the middle of the peep. Likely easier to do with a smaller peep, but will be harder to see in low light. Hope this helps!
My pins are always blurry 😂. Just practice more.
Verifier-Clarifier
This has nothing to do with feeling an explosion.
The problem is not the fear of explosion, but fear of missing.
Your fix is correct, but the cause is off.
Semantics perhaps, but it helps to understand the actual issue.
Feeling the movement, can be distracting. You want to start the firing action, feedback is often a bad thing. Execute your shot, but don’t look for feedback, as you will learn exactly when the shot will go off, eliminating the surprise shot.
So how can I tell if my bow is trash or if it’s just me
It’s possible it’s the bow, but the old saying goes “it’s the Indian, not the bow” it’s possible the bow may not fit you quite as well as it should, which could cause the consistency issues. Double check your draw length, peep height, and release length if you are using a wrist strap as these will be major factors in shooting accurately regardless of the bow you’re shooting.
With an animal in my sight i think very little. I breathe, and aim small ❤ sorry bro you advice is for some, not my path. Interesting thoughts. Happy shooting.
No worries! If you don’t struggle with any panic and have no issues, there’s no need to follow this path. Keep aiming small and shooting straight!
That's right, man. You can buy an expensive bow, but you can't buy good shooting. You need to work on it. And what money can buy is already cheap.
so it would be same as shooting a rifle or shotgun, you should be surprised by the actual shot not anticipating it
Well...yet another archer making this sport more complicated than it needs to be
That is the wonderful thing about archery! You can keep it as simple as a stick and string or go way in depth and as technical as you want. This video was created to help people, not make it more complicated. Thank you for watching!
Proving compound shooters are not real archers…”…fire your bow…”😂
Real archers don’t fire (new fangled word created when muskets were came along), they loose.😉
Was excited to learn from this video, but was pretty annoyed at you showing a random doe get shot out of nowhere (which wasnt even necessary to show for what you were even explaining, seemed more of an ego show to show how spot on you shot her).....not everyone who watched you is a hunter or respects hunting in a modern age. Wanted to stay and actually learn a few more things, but not going to scrub the video to check if anymore of that is peppered in.
The vast majority of individuals who watch this and other outdoor related archery content are watching to enhance their archery skills to become a more competent bow hunter. It’s cool if you don’t hunt but don’t attack people because you somehow believe you’re a better person for not hunting. Your arrogance is disgusting. Especially if you eat animal protein. If you think hunting is wrong - I challenge you to learn about mass production protein harvesting. I chose to hunt because I believe it to be a privilege to have animal protein and to earn the right to eat it. It’s a far healthier option for my family. Grow up and gain some perspective.
practice on a paper plate, your eyes cant see thevmiddle, yet your brain works it out consistently. practice on 3d targets in low light, your arrows will constantly group well in the kill zone. personally i dont like shooting at archery target faces or 3d targets with seeable outlines, it dstracts from reality shooting. Every seen an animal walking around with an X or shootig a tennis ball at 60 yards that doesnt have an X. try the tennis ball, put an x on it your brain will automatically change to thinking processes causing content misses
I started shooting 2D and I realize I have way less target panic. Dots freak me out lol
I’ve shot tennis balls for years. Never marked them. I enjoy it. My theory is it forces you to pick a spot to aim on Deer or other things.
Can't beat this if your new or experienced in archery
Well done mate
Well said 🤙
Thank you!