It's called the "Brownsitis". It's a debilitating & transmittable disease. First known case was in Cleveland. It appears to be most prevalent in Charlotte & Dallas this year. 😂
Panthers have had the worst win percentage since Jerry Richardson sold the team to David Tepper. This is more than just trading up for the wrong QB. We have fully morphed into a poverty franchise under Tepper.
The thing with Bryce that makes this stunning is that there were no obvious red flags that indicated he would be this bad He doesn’t have the bad attitude of Ryan Leaf He doesn’t have a work ethic issue ala JaMarcus He played better competition in college than Zach Wilson He didn’t sign an albatross rookie contract like Sam Bradford And yet, this is looking like the NFL equivalent of Oden over Durant
@@KWCline91I think him opting to not throw at the combine was a red flag. Also.. as a scout.. I think I would be weary of a QB from a team like Bama.. Ohio State.. Georgia etc. because you never know if he’s actually the real deal or if he was raised by the talent around him, making him look better than he really is. And I just always got those vibes from Bryce.. that he was a good college qb.. but his amazing teammates made him look better than he really was.
He was able to see over the Line when he played at Alabama… those were NFL sized lineman, they were actually nfl ready lineman and were superior to most D lines they faced so Bryce had time and space to make throw to his NFL talent WR… in Carolina he has NONE OF THAT! His O line is not good and his WR are second and third string players on an average team
This feels like some revisionist history. "QB rich draft" "Bruce Young made scouts drool"? I remember a lot of indifference about the QB class and a lot of question marks about Young.
I honestly don't know if CJ Stroud would've fared much better on the Panthers, considering that organization's been a complete mess ever since David Tepper bought the team. Here's hoping Bryce Young can have a career revival similar to Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold
Lol CJ was a rookie QB, DeMeco was a rookie HC, Slowik a rookie OC, the OL had 1 starter to start the season, no name WRs, a roster that posted a losing record of 3 wins the season before.
I still thinks the Browns trade will still be worse than this, but yeah seeing how Stroud was ballin and missing on Caleb Williams, the Panthers org might have cost them a decade of great football 🤷🏽♂️
As we can see this year, it’s not a Bryce young problem… it’s a Carolina panthers problem!! Terrible defense, horrible offense. Only thing that’s improved this year is Their o line but now some starters are injured so even the o line is back to being horrible
As a Ohio State fan.. CJ was robbed of the Heisman and should have gone #1 but I am so glad he didn’t go to Carolina lol Edit: I always knew Richardson was overhyped as well. People tried to blame his receivers at Florida for him having less than stellar results/stats but they weren’t the problem. NFL scouts just saw his freak raw athleticism and thought they could train him up lol
To be honest, I don't think even CJ Stroud would have been successful in this organization and I say that he was a better complete quarterback prospect than Young. The biggest problem for the Panthers on that offensive side is the fact that they had gotten completely different position coaches from completely different offensive philosophies. To make matters worse they try to make an offensive line full of running-style maulers into a zone blocking scheme. No quarterback could be successful in that position.
He would. He has success now there is no reason to think he wouldn’t. Let’s just be real everyone was horribly wrong about CJ not being the first overall pick it’s ok to just admit that instead of saying he wouldn’t do this or that when in fact he is on the Texans who was just as bad as Carolina before the draft.
@@lawrencemalone1900 Even going into the draft, I said that Stroud was the better quarterback. Here's the difference between the Texans and the Panthers, since they are two different organizations going opposite directions. The Texans weren't being meddled by Jack Easterby, they at least had weapons for CJ to throw to, it also helped that they drafted the defensive cornerstone for their franchise, and their play style wasn't discombobulated by different offensive positions coaches with different philosophies. You wouldn't be saying this if CJ Stroud didn't play like an MVP candidate last year.
@manzac112 bro dont act like everyone wasnt saying that Bryce went to the better situation 😂. People called the Texans wr room trash. CJ elevated the team and receivers.
@@cristianmunoz2480 The Texans didn't have the best receiving room, but they were better than the Panthers receiving room. Robert Woods was a good veteran receiver and good locker room guy that the younger receivers could learn from, Dalton Schultz was a great safety blanket Tight End, Devin Singletary was a serviceable veteran running back, and some of the younger receivers stepped up. The Panthers receiving room was worse especially after trading DJ Moore in the package to get Bryce Young to begin with. There's a lot more that goes on to turning around an organization then just drafting a different quarterback.
How much of Bryce Young's struggles is on the Carolina Panthers? Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold were terrible in Carolina and now are playing at pro bowl levels since they have left the team.
@luxxus242 Sam Darnold is by far more physically gifted than Bryce Young. Young literally looks like a high school player out there on the football field. Darnold always had the physical tools of a NFL QB. Baker has proven to be a good NFL quarterback he's always just battled injuries and inconsistency.
Panthers didn’t pick the wrong QB. I will die on the hill of whoever was drafted by Houston would’ve been the better pick because they were quietly set up
As a Texans fan this video makes me so happy but as a fan of the NFC South(My favorite division) it does make me wonder how much better the Panthers could have actually been with CJ instead of Bryce. Thankfully we got the right guy! Go Texans!!
I think the people saying CJ would struggle (In Carolina) aren't completely wrong, but I think that statement also discredit's CJ's talent. Similar to a Joey Burrow situation, I think CJ would've showed you flashes during his rookie season to get him help and have the terrible team go "All In|" Just like Cincinnati Did for Burrow. Remember, the Bengals owner was a kind of a tepid person and let Marvin Lewis disappoint for almost a decade, but all it took was seeing what he had in Joey B and he opened up his checkbook. I think a similar story would've formed with CJ It's very telling that during Bryce's rookie into sophomore season, the story wasn't about building around his talents. It was getting a coach in their to "fix" what was wrong. Bryce never showed the type of talent that told you he could be a real player in this league, and that matters. I think its fair to say no one sees a Bryce Young led team taking down the chiefs, and that is an absolute problem when he is the #1 pick of the franchise
What people forget is the Ohio state curse when it gets to quarterbacks. It shouldn’t be a factor but it is, as I found out in Houston as I saw my steelers get demolished by him when I thought it would be the other way round when I booked
What’s soo frustrating about this as a Panther fan is the coach’s and 70% of the fan base wanted Stroud. There’s a video of the qb coach telling Stroud we’ll see you soon. Tepper and his wife had lunch with Young and thought he was “a nice young man”…
Stroud would have just as horrible as Young as a Panther, O line is garbage wr corps is meh on their best day, no coaching continuity. Go ahead and pile blame on Young but he can't block for himself or catch his own passes etc.
I don’t think the panthers wiil struggle with Cj. It’s. Dumber to thing he will not succeed he is everything everyone would want. Dumb takes in the comments.
Answer: No. Try using some imagination. Everything does not have to be described as worst is all history. Boring. The answer to that is no, now think of an interesting topic.
I still think CJ Stroud wouldn't be that good on the Panthers. It's always a classic What If story but can't blame Bryce Young entirely. Dave Tepper should be blamed more for not building around a young QB. Yeah they had a good upset win against the Raiders this season but the Panthers have only won 1 game since benching Bryce....
This is completely false. The Texans was just as bad as Carolina before the draft and CJ literally brought the second worst team in the league to the playoffs. He would do the same easily in the nfc which is by far the weaker conference and it’s not much of a debate regarding that
@lawrencemalone1900, the Texans were actually worse they had the # 2 pick outright, while Panthers had to trade from 9 to 1. And no 1 knew who Nico Collins was or how tank was going to do, CJ elevates his teammates !! Bryce can't!!
Everything Stroud said in his emotional interview on draft night has been 100% true. I'm so glad we have him as our leader in Houston...
I still don't know why some Texans fans were upset that they got the #2 pick. Stroud was the better QB coming out the draft anyway.
I think it might be the organization, not necessarily the players.
Andy Dalton is doing better, Drake Mayes is also doing better with an Online on food stamps....Bryce is the problem
@@rifraf1717at some point they’re both part of the problem, we’ve seen great players overcome bad situations
People called the Texans a dumpster fire organization in 2023 as well.
@@rifraf1717ya Andy did good for a couple of games he peaked vs the raiders tho
It's called the "Brownsitis". It's a debilitating & transmittable disease. First known case was in Cleveland. It appears to be most prevalent in Charlotte & Dallas this year. 😂
Cleveland's Deshaun Watson trade is still a worse move considering both the financial and moral ramifications of it.
Crazy how Houston benefited from both of them
Cleveland loves bailing out Houston. Remember Brock Osweiler?
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@@saducktive3017 I love being a Texans fan right now
@@luxxus242 We don't talk about the dark times w/ the Rock Lobster.
Panthers have had the worst win percentage since Jerry Richardson sold the team to David Tepper. This is more than just trading up for the wrong QB. We have fully morphed into a poverty franchise under Tepper.
And please don’t absolve Scott Fitterer of fault. The only man who would make a trade so awful that he missed out on CJ Stroud AND Caleb Williams.
The thing with Bryce that makes this stunning is that there were no obvious red flags that indicated he would be this bad
He doesn’t have the bad attitude of Ryan Leaf
He doesn’t have a work ethic issue ala JaMarcus
He played better competition in college than Zach Wilson
He didn’t sign an albatross rookie contract like Sam Bradford
And yet, this is looking like the NFL equivalent of Oden over Durant
Oden was hurt tho
His only red flag (unless you want to make it crimson or maroon) was his height. But I do agree with you on everything else.
@@KWCline91I think him opting to not throw at the combine was a red flag. Also.. as a scout.. I think I would be weary of a QB from a team like Bama.. Ohio State.. Georgia etc. because you never know if he’s actually the real deal or if he was raised by the talent around him, making him look better than he really is. And I just always got those vibes from Bryce.. that he was a good college qb.. but his amazing teammates made him look better than he really was.
Oden would’ve been tremendous if he could’ve just stayed healthy. Jordan over Bowie is the better corollary
He was exposed in the championship game imo. I know other “short” qb’s have worked out but Bryce is tiny.
What makes this so much worse is the trade up to take him. My God. This ruined Carolina for the next few years
False Tepper is 💯 the problem.
Young can't see over the linemen and can only throw short outside passes from the pocket.
He was able to see over the Line when he played at Alabama… those were NFL sized lineman, they were actually nfl ready lineman and were superior to most D lines they faced so Bryce had time and space to make throw to his NFL talent WR… in Carolina he has NONE OF THAT! His O line is not good and his WR are second and third string players on an average team
This feels like some revisionist history. "QB rich draft" "Bruce Young made scouts drool"?
I remember a lot of indifference about the QB class and a lot of question marks about Young.
I honestly don't know if CJ Stroud would've fared much better on the Panthers, considering that organization's been a complete mess ever since David Tepper bought the team. Here's hoping Bryce Young can have a career revival similar to Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold
Lol CJ was a rookie QB, DeMeco was a rookie HC, Slowik a rookie OC, the OL had 1 starter to start the season, no name WRs, a roster that posted a losing record of 3 wins the season before.
I’m still pissed about giving up DJ Moore smfh
I still thinks the Browns trade will still be worse than this, but yeah seeing how Stroud was ballin and missing on Caleb Williams, the Panthers org might have cost them a decade of great football 🤷🏽♂️
Speaking as a Bears fan, I’m really thrilled with how everything went with the Panthers.
It gave us a better future and Williams has the potential to be a superstar.
As we can see this year, it’s not a Bryce young problem… it’s a Carolina panthers problem!! Terrible defense, horrible offense. Only thing that’s improved this year is Their o line but now some starters are injured so even the o line is back to being horrible
As a Ohio State fan.. CJ was robbed of the Heisman and should have gone #1 but I am so glad he didn’t go to Carolina lol
Edit: I always knew Richardson was overhyped as well. People tried to blame his receivers at Florida for him having less than stellar results/stats but they weren’t the problem. NFL scouts just saw his freak raw athleticism and thought they could train him up lol
5:51 that answer just said it all !! That’s my QB!!
To be honest, I don't think even CJ Stroud would have been successful in this organization and I say that he was a better complete quarterback prospect than Young. The biggest problem for the Panthers on that offensive side is the fact that they had gotten completely different position coaches from completely different offensive philosophies. To make matters worse they try to make an offensive line full of running-style maulers into a zone blocking scheme. No quarterback could be successful in that position.
He would. He has success now there is no reason to think he wouldn’t. Let’s just be real everyone was horribly wrong about CJ not being the first overall pick it’s ok to just admit that instead of saying he wouldn’t do this or that when in fact he is on the Texans who was just as bad as Carolina before the draft.
@@lawrencemalone1900 Even going into the draft, I said that Stroud was the better quarterback. Here's the difference between the Texans and the Panthers, since they are two different organizations going opposite directions. The Texans weren't being meddled by Jack Easterby, they at least had weapons for CJ to throw to, it also helped that they drafted the defensive cornerstone for their franchise, and their play style wasn't discombobulated by different offensive positions coaches with different philosophies. You wouldn't be saying this if CJ Stroud didn't play like an MVP candidate last year.
Why is Drake Maye playing better than year one Bryce?
@manzac112 bro dont act like everyone wasnt saying that Bryce went to the better situation 😂. People called the Texans wr room trash. CJ elevated the team and receivers.
@@cristianmunoz2480 The Texans didn't have the best receiving room, but they were better than the Panthers receiving room. Robert Woods was a good veteran receiver and good locker room guy that the younger receivers could learn from, Dalton Schultz was a great safety blanket Tight End, Devin Singletary was a serviceable veteran running back, and some of the younger receivers stepped up. The Panthers receiving room was worse especially after trading DJ Moore in the package to get Bryce Young to begin with. There's a lot more that goes on to turning around an organization then just drafting a different quarterback.
How much of Bryce Young's struggles is on the Carolina Panthers? Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold were terrible in Carolina and now are playing at pro bowl levels since they have left the team.
Not much honestly. He's not Baker or Sam.
And Sam wasn't horrible here either.
He was actually very serviceable. However Bryce, is not.
@@southnyourmind Hmm, I must be thinking of a different Sam Darnold.
@luxxus242
Sam Darnold is by far more physically gifted than Bryce Young. Young literally looks like a high school player out there on the football field. Darnold always had the physical tools of a NFL QB. Baker has proven to be a good NFL quarterback he's always just battled injuries and inconsistency.
Panthers didn’t pick the wrong QB. I will die on the hill of whoever was drafted by Houston would’ve been the better pick because they were quietly set up
As a Texans fan this video makes me so happy but as a fan of the NFC South(My favorite division) it does make me wonder how much better the Panthers could have actually been with CJ instead of Bryce. Thankfully we got the right guy! Go Texans!!
3:22 “off the charts intangibles”
I thought you couldn’t measure intangibles…
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I think the people saying CJ would struggle (In Carolina) aren't completely wrong, but I think that statement also discredit's CJ's talent. Similar to a Joey Burrow situation, I think CJ would've showed you flashes during his rookie season to get him help and have the terrible team go "All In|" Just like Cincinnati Did for Burrow. Remember, the Bengals owner was a kind of a tepid person and let Marvin Lewis disappoint for almost a decade, but all it took was seeing what he had in Joey B and he opened up his checkbook. I think a similar story would've formed with CJ
It's very telling that during Bryce's rookie into sophomore season, the story wasn't about building around his talents. It was getting a coach in their to "fix" what was wrong. Bryce never showed the type of talent that told you he could be a real player in this league, and that matters. I think its fair to say no one sees a Bryce Young led team taking down the chiefs, and that is an absolute problem when he is the #1 pick of the franchise
CJ would still be CJ and Bryce would still be Bryce. Carolina has the best O line in football for pass protection. that's nuts
Caleb hilarious when he said he dodged a bullet when Bears got his draft rights from Carolina LOL
carolina would have ruined stroud too
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The Watson trade to Cleveland is much worse
What people forget is the Ohio state curse when it gets to quarterbacks. It shouldn’t be a factor but it is, as I found out in Houston as I saw my steelers get demolished by him when I thought it would be the other way round when I booked
THIS trade is disastrous due to the draft compensation. Could have corrected course and grabbed a stud QB in 2024. TRAGIC.
What’s soo frustrating about this as a Panther fan is the coach’s and 70% of the fan base wanted Stroud. There’s a video of the qb coach telling Stroud we’ll see you soon. Tepper and his wife had lunch with Young and thought he was “a nice young man”…
Stroud would have just as horrible as Young as a Panther, O line is garbage wr corps is meh on their best day, no coaching continuity. Go ahead and pile blame on Young but he can't block for himself or catch his own passes etc.
I don’t think the panthers wiil struggle with Cj. It’s. Dumber to thing he will not succeed he is everything everyone would want. Dumb takes in the comments.
Would be the worst move ever if the Cleveland/Watson move didnt exist.
Scott Fitterer is the antithesis of Howie Roseman.
We don't know if it's on the same level yet, but it's effectively Sam Bowie.
The Texans QB was always going to do better than the Panthers QB. Didn't matter who
He was just over hyped just because he played at Alabama
This whole video and not one mention that the pick they gave up in 2024 led to the 1st overall pick!!??
All I know from this is the trade save the bears franchise.
Panthers drafted him Bcs the owners wife fell in love with Bryce’s personality during dinner.
Is there gonna be a sequel to this with Caleb and Jalen?
Caleb is awesome too...what are you on about?
It was extremely obvious young was going to be a bust. I could see it from a mile away. I would have taken him in the 4th round
agreed. although winning the heisman as a sophmore is nuts.
A decade of butt hurt for the Panthers. 🥺💩
really offside for you guys to make this video
Answer: No.
Try using some imagination. Everything does not have to be described as worst is all history. Boring. The answer to that is no, now think of an interesting topic.
When in the same year darnold looks good and so does baker… this is an organization issue and culture issue.
I still think CJ Stroud wouldn't be that good on the Panthers. It's always a classic What If story but can't blame Bryce Young entirely. Dave Tepper should be blamed more for not building around a young QB. Yeah they had a good upset win against the Raiders this season but the Panthers have only won 1 game since benching Bryce....
He wouldn't have put up the numbers that he did in Houston, but I think Stroud would've been better than what Young has shown in Carolina.
This is completely false. The Texans was just as bad as Carolina before the draft and CJ literally brought the second worst team in the league to the playoffs. He would do the same easily in the nfc which is by far the weaker conference and it’s not much of a debate regarding that
@lawrencemalone1900, the Texans were actually worse they had the # 2 pick outright, while Panthers had to trade from 9 to 1. And no 1 knew who Nico Collins was or how tank was going to do, CJ elevates his teammates !! Bryce can't!!
You crazy stroud would of still been better then young..and for you to say a upset win over the raiders was good that's definitely not saying much 😂
I don’t think the panthers necessarily drafted wrong but lopsided trades like that rarely ever work out.
Smh
Such a joke...c.j stroud is the best..and he should have won the Heisman!!!! Bryce young... BUST
It still baffles me that you can be one of the best Alabama QBs and absolutely bomb in the NFL.
If he has no weapons and no O line then uh yeah he's gonna suck. Have you ever even watched the NFL before?
@@Foo3thoo you seem like you don’t even know what football is.
CJ Stroud wouldn’t be any better in Carolina. Houston has set him up for success. He wouldn’t be able to carry that franchise from irrelevance.
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i disgree. and bryce would be trash in houston.
I'm convinced you dont know football 😂😂
@@garyfields3744 your running back got hurt running the ball today LOLLLL
When your owner is a moron, the team will suck.
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