As a bears fan, so glad we drafted rodgers in 2005 then took mahomes in 2017 to sit behind him and take over once we traded rodgers to the jets. So happy weve won 10 superbowls since 2005. Man I love being a bears fan and watching great qb play for so long!
Good one. That's sarcasm. I'm a Washington Commies fan, and part of me was hoping at one time that you would keep Justin Fields, so that we could have a shot at drafting a hometown guy in Caleb Williams. I probably thought that he would have better chance with of succeeding with us than with you. But that's out of the question. I genuinely want Caleb Williams to beat the Green Bay Packers to give your fanbase some pain relief.
Mel Kiper: Decent hairdew, and simultaneously about as accurate at analysis as you’d expect from someone who never was a GM or anything like that (often bad). As for that scenario, while Trev Alberts didn’t pan out (largely due to injury), and Trent Dilfer had a better career than Alberts, Kiper did underestimate how Harbaugh fit Indy.
@fortynights1513 Harbaugh and the Colts almost got to the Super Bowl a couple seasons after this too! Came down to a hail mary that was almost caught. Would've been Colts and Cowboys for Super Bowl 30.
He loved to reach as GM for us. Clelin Ferrell 4 overall who was projected to go around 15 or lower. Henry Ruggs III 12 overall who was really really good but Michael Pittman fell to 34 overall the same draft. Damon Arnette 19 overall not in the nfl tons of character red flags Alex Leatherwood 17 overall not in the nfl and many did not think he was a first round pick It is one thing to risk it on these players but all of them but Ruggs he could have traded down at least 10 spots and still got them. Mayock did draft Maxx Crosby and Hunter Renfrow who both were steals. Ruggs was a great pick if not for him being a fool.
Fun fact: before he passed away, Dwight Clark said his biggest regret as the Browns GM was not taking the Saints up on their offer of their entire draft for the number one pick and instead taking Tim Couch at number one
Yea, it's pretty stupid to turn that down. The browns always thirsting over qbs as if their teams were built to win. And all they needed was that 1st rounder to save them. And when it FINALLY happened. They trade him. Almost immediately
@@y.w.6243yes dude got them a playoff win after how long was the drought idek as a bears fan this draft been amazing but if Caleb finally gets us a playoff dub I highly doubt we trading him but it’s the bears so I def can be wrong unfortunately 😂
The Vikings passed on Sapp too. That would've been terrifying, to see John Randle and Warren Sapp on the same D line. I think MN still had that mountain of a man Jerry Ball as nose tackle too, opposing O lines would've just collapsed on every down.
Randle was there, Ball would come two years after in '97. But you're right, as far as defense goes it's a line of dreams. But they were too invested on the offense back then I guess. After all, they had Randy Moss and Cris Carter.
It was all that drug accusations. Few days before the draft in 95, there were reports of 5 cocaine tests and pot tests. Simply put. I don't know if it was someone trying to drive him down or legit. But he stayed clean as a player.
@@Eggy79 really, because John Randle having his leg busted up early against Atlanta was the downfall of our pass rush. You are saying adding another hof rusher would have no impact in a 3 point game?
I don’t know what’s worse. The Saints trading away basically their future for one guy. Or the Redskins not turning themselves into a dynasty with those picks.
Didn’t they draft Champ Bailey with one of their picks? They also drafted LaVar Arrington and Chris Samuels at 2 and 3 respectively in the draft the following year. So that’s something?
@@gatienlaurol5793 yeah but they undid it by trading him just a few years later. Arrington and Samuels were decent but nowhere near elite. But since the trade the Saints have won a Super Bowl and Washington has only won 2 playoff games. Neither side really won this trade but in the 25 years since the Saints have clearly been the better team.
@@bioLarzen he is nuts, but is one of the cases I really like. Refused the biggest contract ever for a punter and decided to try for even more and got it. But David Akers was better than he was in terms of draft trash talking. The Titans fanbase was cold
@@zlinedavid perfect description.. he's got some good moments on his podcast, good stand up but when I watch him too long I start to want to choke him lol
And the year prior, they screwed up something in the pick submission process too, and in the process failed to draft Ryan Sims; they got Bryant McKinnie instead, and he turned out way better in the long haul Basically, you can just draft whoever 😅
@@hiimemilyIMO, I think the NFL draft is nothing more than an educated lottery. There are some picks that are “obvious” generational talents, but outside of a few players, really anything that can happen. There are so many guys who are phenomenal in college that just don’t translate to the NFL and you have guys who had somewhat decent college careers end up becoming HOF. I mean shoot, Tom Brady and Brock Purdy are shining examples of you can find quality ANYWHERE on the draft board.
@@C-S. And yet JaMarcus Russell was taken #1 overall and he out of the league by 09. In fact I don't think a single QB in this draft played a full season. Trent Edwards was probably the best in the draft class and he had 1 mediocre season. Other than Drew Stanton they were all out of the league in 5 years.
100% agree, I remember the pick spoiling became a thing on Twitter like 4-5 years ago, and top NFL reporters would basically flex their insider knowledge by getting all the picks right. I remember Jay Glazer saying he “didn’t care about the NFL’s TV show”, and acted like he was going to continue spoiling picks, but the NFL found a way to stop that nonsense pretty quickly and tell those guys to knock it off.
The only thing he did consistently was choke in the biggest moments. When he had the ball last and needed a score to win the game, turn the TV off it wasn't happening.
@logantgood478 Yeah, but that isn't saying much. McNabb was the weak link on those great Jimmy Johnson led defensive teams. Those NFC championship ending picks against the Rams and Bucs were complete chokejobs, and the SB was just too big of a stage for him to handle.
a legend for that and he took many good players for the Colts as well. I'm still waiting for Kiper to retire after the Jimmy Clausen debacle, he sure swiveled the opinion towards him being any good
If I was Cleveland, I’dve traded the top pick for everything Washington did and maybe one more pick. Ricky Williams could’ve been the last first overall running back if so.
@@Clarkone68 “mediocre, at best, pundit career” and I was careful to phrase it that way. Not his play, but his work as a broadcaster, hence “pundit career”
The Bengals were offered more picks by the Saints than they traded to Washington for the 3rd overall pick, the Bengals declined and drafted Akili Smith.
@@otaviofrnazario The OL was disappointing but they didn’t have anything to do with either of Burrow’s injuries directly. The calf strain happened the 2nd day of camp, and the torn wrist ligament started as a partial tear just from repeated throwing, but completely ruptured when he hit his wrist on a defender’s helmet on a follow through. The Trent Brown pickup should help things a lot. That gives us an anchor on either end of the line.
@@phalch cara, o mais surpreendente foi todo mundo colocar o JaMarcus como #1 geral, e ele já tinha dado mostras durante o ano anterior que ele levava o time pra fora dos buracos que ele mesmo colocava. Ele tinha força e tamanho, mas não tinha precisão. Média dele em LSU foi 61,9% de passes completos, tendo 67,8 no seu melhor ano. Uma pena a gente não ter o next gen stats nessa época pra uma análise ainda mais detalhada. Além disso o Matt Millen, gerente geral de Detroit na época (péssimo como GM, mas foi um grande jogador dos Raiders e muito querido por várias torcidas na liga, além de amigo do Al Davis), disse que teve que encerrar a entrevista com o Russell mais cedo por ele estar extremamente distraído, sinais de que ele se comportava com estrelismo. A prova final veio quando ele deu holdout (na época o acordo coletivo não previa contratos de novato, cada um negociava o seu) até a semana 1 da temporada, quando o Raiders deu um contrato de 6 anos, 68 milhões, com 31,5 garantido. Al sempre foi ruim? Não. Pelo contrário, foi um excelente GM e dono por muitos anos. Tanto que em um ponto da história o Raiders chegou a ter o maior aproveitamento de vitórias entre todas as grandes ligas dos EUA. Mas depois do all in que ele deu entre 2000-02 o Raiders nunca se recuperou. Bem, ele queria grana rápido por alguma razão. Talvez tenha lido O Método TB12 (ele cita que o tempo médio de carreira na NFL é de 3,3 anos). O Raiders deu o que ele queria, e um idoso senil foi "enganado".
@@Paulafan5 the only success Tebow had was "he won 1 playoff game". Since when is winning a single playoff game considered being a successful NFL QB. Tebow was a waste of a first round pick.
This isn't a difficult concept but the masses simply cannot grasp it, one player has NEVER won a game. It's never happened, and it never will. Why do you simple minded people fall for such nonsensical manipulation?! It's by far the most absurd belief in all of sports that one player wins games. Imagine believing an entire organization is completely irrelevant except for one player, that's as simple minded as it gets!
Bears trading up and drafting Mitchell Trubisky in 2017 was none other than GM Ryan Pace’s fault! Chicago would’ve assembled and put together a better era if Pace thought twice and decided to draft Patrick Mahomes! That draft moment was definitely considered “Typical Bears” fashion based on how ill-prepared the Bears were! That’s what I call “unBEARable!”
Even if bears drafted Mahomes he probably wouldn't be the same Mahomes of today, bears never develop any QB ever. Coaching matters and Andy Reid Is a HOF coach he knows how to develop his players
The biggest OMG moment happen a day after this vod posted. Drafting 24 yr old Michael Penix Jr to the Falcons at #8, six weeks after they give Cousins 180 million.
Green Bay using a first round pick to draft a QB when they had Brett Favre turned out alright in the long run. This is actually what teams should do. Have a solid starter and bring along a rookie QB slowly. If the rookie is a bust, you still have Cousins. If he's good, trade Cousins for some picks (3rd round, maybe).
Yeah relative projects who would benefit from sitting (especially Love) replacing HOF QBs whom they didn't just pay 100mil guaranteed to come play for them in free agency lol. The situations are not the same. Penix could be a beast and I'm willing to bet he will be a good NFL QB no Falcons fan has an issue with that. The issue arises when we pay Cousins all that money to come play for us when we could've used it elsewhere creating a better team around Penix. Penix will be 24 when training camp starts. Bro was picking his college while Obama was still President 😂😂 he's been playing college football for 6 years. He doesn't need anymore seasoning. He's not a project he's ready to play now. @@Paulafan5
@@Paulafan5 Yeah, but they picked at #24. And they picked Love at #26. They were already good enough at the time that they could make a pick like that. The Falcons weren't that good of a team last year, they needed more.
@@zlinedavid tell me bout it bro, idk how he wasn’t fired on the spot after that 🤦🏾♂️ looking back on it, it’s actually hilarious seeing someone make a dumbfounded decision like that. It just hurts as a fan 🤣
The entire sports media is wrong 98% of the time, yet 98% of the people who watch regurgitate their nonsensical opinions! Especially in today's world where people are only capable of having an opinion on the exact moment they're living.
We could have had a Barry Sanders/ Randy Moss combo in the late 90s, but the f’ing Lions took Terry Fair at 20. Biggest blunder in a long line of blunders for the Lions.
Prior to the rookie salary cap & every slot having a salary tied to it, that happened more often than you’d think. If I recall correctly, Tim Couch, David Carr & Matthew Stafford all signed before they were announced as the first pick
@@mavhimself I'm pretty sure what ended it was the Rams signing Sam Bradford to an insane contract before the draft and it ended up crippling the franchise for years. It was bad for the league to have a team completely ruin their future like that.
Look at the Lions. Had Stafford Calvin Johnson and Ndamukong Suh all on huge contracts as rookies.. The reason the Raiders took Jankowski in the 1st round was a salary cap issue also.
"The New Orleans Saints receive Ricky Williams." "The Washington Redskins shall receive the next 47 New Orleans draft picks, Mike Ditka's soul, some land in Shreveport, and a Porsche 959."
Vikings did that in 2003 and again in 2011!! Like trade back, I can’t imagine guys are sitting around oblivious of when their pick is happening only to look up and say “were we on the clock?”
The funny thing was that the show Coach had the same thing happen (to a pro-football team from Minnesota). I'm pretty sure that episode aired before that actual incident.
I know it’s probably not an NFL Top 10 draft moment, but I vividly recall my reaction when the Packers drafted Jordan Love in the first round when they were just coming off an appearance in the NFC Championship game. Fortunately, it’s looking like the pick is working out pretty well, but my disappointment was immeasurable at the time. I had so many of my non-Packer fan friends hitting me up and rubbing it in on why the Packers weren’t trying to go wide receiver to get Rodgers some help because even I was saying that maybe this is FINALLY the year the Packers draft a WR with their #1 pick. Well, at least we can now say hindsight is 50/50 because by the time the Packers were picking, the top three wide receivers in Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb and Brandon Aiyuk were already gone and even solid guys like Jalen Reagor and Jerry Jeudy were already gone as well. Michael Pittman Jr. and Van Jefferson have been decent, but probably not worth a first round pick and at least the Pack avoided resident locker room cancer Chase Claypool. It would’ve been nice to see the Packers go for Tee Higgins, who has been REALLY good in Cincy his first four years, but he’s really the only receiver drafted after Love that I think is a justifiable first round pick.
If Alex Smith didn't get his shoulder destroyed, the conversation would be a lot closer. Smith still came back and had a nice career (his record in KC was pretty good, until they switched over to Mahomes). Also, Rodgers wasn't as polished as Smith. It took him 4 years to really hit his stride (and then blew past Smith).
As a Raiders fan talk about a lose / lose in Russell or Quinn when they could have had a prime Joe Thomas / Calvin Johnson / Adrian Peterson / Willis aka Buff Eddie Murphy / Revis Island. They used to say this about Russell getting drafted and getting that big contract "What is the first thing you do when you win the lottery? quit your job" when talking about his work ethic.
I remember they gave him a blank DVD of film they wanted him to study just to prove to those who didn't understand in the Raiders brain trust how badly he didn't want to work for it.
@@Gungho73 In some ways in makes sense he never needed to work again with proper investment of that contract. Sad for the raiders though. Quinn at least never was lazy like that even if he had way less talent.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Quinn is a weird one to me how we just saw nothing come out of that. His career was gone in a flash. He didn't seem terrible he just melded in like a tree in the woods
@@Gungho73 Some QBs like Quinn teams are better off trading down to the 2nd round and hope he falls to you over taking him high and wasting a first. At least the Browns took him way later in round 1.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants I remember feeling like the weird guy when I watched Malik Willis film and prayed he would fall to the 3rd or 4th round. Because the idea being thrown around he was a 1st rounder was baffling to me, he needed too much work and had he been I cant see that having worked out even remotely. I think that's why i see a lot of people kinda hoping Penix this year falls to the 2nd, is that exact scenario you're describing. Remove some of that pressure.
The fact that Oakland took Seabass in the first round of 2000 still boggles the mind. I’m a Raider fan and he was incredible at times (and one of the most powerful ever), but dear lord, could they really not have gotten him four rounds later? Lmao
I love how people remember the Mel kiper line. People seem to forget that he was yelling at the colts for not picking Trent Dilfer who was a huge bust. So neither one of those men were even remotely correct. And Bill was absolutely right. Mel doesn't lose his job for picking the wrong player. Clearly as Mel is not right all that often he doesn't lose his job for picking the wrong player.
Decision points are what matter, not results. Only a moron would think otherwise. BTW, Trent Dilfer was a pro-bowler and won a Super Bowl. Not exactly a huge bust. It wasn't his fault Tampa Bay drafted him.
What's funny about the Brady Quinn slide is that the analysts talked him up so much before the draft as a potential 1st overall pick. Then as he slid all the inconsistencies and doubts started being addressed by those same analyst. Made you question whether they really knew what they were talking about.
@@Paulafan5 I've never really understood it, listened to any of them or taken them seriously either. I'd love to see all their records on predicting draft picks, especially Kiper's. I mean if the organizations are getting them wrong more often than not, how are sports journalist who may or may not have played and former players turned analysts going to get anything remotely accurate? 😂
Before I even watch I am curious to see if Tunsil is an honorable mention. That was one of the most bizzare things to happen in the draft, especially to just watch a young talented mans draft value drop live as we saw the video. It changed that whole topic of the opening of the draft till he was picked up.
@@UserName-ts3sp Absolutely. I just remember the draft tableround chat they always have just going from what was clearly through the motions of mostly known/confirmed draft picks to WAIT A SECOND on Tunsil. Like they do a good job of filler audio for the draft process but its rare to just see the dialogue get swapped like that. We get things like Marino for example or Sapp or Randy Moss, but not minutes into the draft. It just felt..bizzare seeing that bong video.
@cityhawk I think Nix will be a more accurate passer than Penix because he's in a Payton offense and is a natural for the position. Penix better have good legs.
Why is brady Quinn slide a top 10 OMG moment. He wasn't an NFL starter and probably should of went in the third round. Good luck to his analysis career.
I screamed my head off when the Giants made that pick. Let's just say I used a few four-letter words. That was a terrible year for QBs. The Giants made the better pick than Washington, but it wasn't exactly a high bar to hurdle. 🤬
That draft had Adrian Peterson, Darrelle Revis, Marshal Yanda, Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Joe Thomas, Ryan Kalil all go after Calvin Johnson. Still the right pick.
It's still so incredible to me that Mike Ditka, with all that football knowledge, who once was quoted saying "Good players don't make a good team, a good team makes a good team", would end up trading an entire draft to take one good player. Ricky Williams was a generational running back 100%, but the Saints needed more than one outstanding player to be a good team. Ditka could have done that with all those picks and he ended up crippling the franchise for years to come.
As a bears fan, so glad we drafted rodgers in 2005 then took mahomes in 2017 to sit behind him and take over once we traded rodgers to the jets. So happy weve won 10 superbowls since 2005. Man I love being a bears fan and watching great qb play for so long!
Your comment wins 🏆 😂
Good one. That's sarcasm. I'm a Washington Commies fan, and part of me was hoping at one time that you would keep Justin Fields, so that we could have a shot at drafting a hometown guy in Caleb Williams. I probably thought that he would have better chance with of succeeding with us than with you. But that's out of the question. I genuinely want Caleb Williams to beat the Green Bay Packers to give your fanbase some pain relief.
Yeah and it’s crazy how many Bears QBs have had 4000 yard and 30+ TD seasons. That franchise has devolved so many good QBs it’s crazy tbh.
As a Packer fan, thank you.
It's finally happened, the bears fans got it so bad they had a mental break lol
Happy 30th anniversary of 'Who in the hell is Mel Kiper anyway" RIP Bill Tobin.
He died? Wow
Mel Kiper: Decent hairdew, and simultaneously about as accurate at analysis as you’d expect from someone who never was a GM or anything like that (often bad).
As for that scenario, while Trev Alberts didn’t pan out (largely due to injury), and Trent Dilfer had a better career than Alberts, Kiper did underestimate how Harbaugh fit Indy.
@fortynights1513 Harbaugh and the Colts almost got to the Super Bowl a couple seasons after this too! Came down to a hail mary that was almost caught. Would've been Colts and Cowboys for Super Bowl 30.
When he died last week I was remembering was he the Who's Mel Kiper guy?🤔
mEl suks bals
the browns not taking a qb for once and it was a solid pick, who woulda thought
They ended up drafting him anyway!
Joe Thomas best player in Browns history? Jim Brown sure but he played 40 years before I was born
Brown Drafted Brady Quinn that draft lol
The Browns ended up taking him with the 22nd pick.
@@EthanCole2009Yeah if the Browns take a qb at 22, he’s gonna bust. See Quinn, Weeden, and Manziel.
Mayok being critical of the Raiders reaching for a player in the first round is the kind of irony only sports can provide.
He loved to reach as GM for us.
Clelin Ferrell 4 overall who was projected to go around 15 or lower.
Henry Ruggs III 12 overall who was really really good but Michael Pittman fell to 34 overall the same draft.
Damon Arnette 19 overall not in the nfl tons of character red flags
Alex Leatherwood 17 overall not in the nfl and many did not think he was a first round pick
It is one thing to risk it on these players but all of them but Ruggs he could have traded down at least 10 spots and still got them.
Mayock did draft Maxx Crosby and Hunter Renfrow who both were steals. Ruggs was a great pick if not for him being a fool.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiantsHe didn't have much control over those picks it was mostly Gruden
@@ickisdog1592 No Gruden let him pick them.
You’re right lol but but tbf Gruden had final say on 1st round picks
@@MarchOnRome Gruden didnt want to pick them though so he didnt
Fun fact: before he passed away, Dwight Clark said his biggest regret as the Browns GM was not taking the Saints up on their offer of their entire draft for the number one pick and instead taking Tim Couch at number one
Yea, it's pretty stupid to turn that down. The browns always thirsting over qbs as if their teams were built to win. And all they needed was that 1st rounder to save them. And when it FINALLY happened. They trade him. Almost immediately
@@NoFace-ke9pcbaker?
I can’t believe they turned that down, but I guess look at the team
Tim couch was quite a prospect coming out though . Always easy in , hindsight
@@y.w.6243yes dude got them a playoff win after how long was the drought idek as a bears fan this draft been amazing but if Caleb finally gets us a playoff dub I highly doubt we trading him but it’s the bears so I def can be wrong unfortunately 😂
"New york jets draft ,Fullback"
"Oh no!"
The Vikings passed on Sapp too. That would've been terrifying, to see John Randle and Warren Sapp on the same D line. I think MN still had that mountain of a man Jerry Ball as nose tackle too, opposing O lines would've just collapsed on every down.
Randle was there, Ball would come two years after in '97. But you're right, as far as defense goes it's a line of dreams.
But they were too invested on the offense back then I guess. After all, they had Randy Moss and Cris Carter.
It was all that drug accusations. Few days before the draft in 95, there were reports of 5 cocaine tests and pot tests. Simply put. I don't know if it was someone trying to drive him down or legit. But he stayed clean as a player.
They still wouldn't have won lol
@@Eggy79 really, because John Randle having his leg busted up early against Atlanta was the downfall of our pass rush. You are saying adding another hof rusher would have no impact in a 3 point game?
@@TheWarshireOur? You were on the team?
I don’t know what’s worse. The Saints trading away basically their future for one guy. Or the Redskins not turning themselves into a dynasty with those picks.
Didn’t they draft Champ Bailey with one of their picks? They also drafted LaVar Arrington and Chris Samuels at 2 and 3 respectively in the draft the following year. So that’s something?
@@gatienlaurol5793 yeah but they undid it by trading him just a few years later. Arrington and Samuels were decent but nowhere near elite. But since the trade the Saints have won a Super Bowl and Washington has only won 2 playoff games. Neither side really won this trade but in the 25 years since the Saints have clearly been the better team.
The Bengals were also offered those draft picks but they chose Akili Smith instead ….yeah
As a Saints fan I'll go with the Ricky trade.
The skins 100% at least N.O got ticket sales and merch sales
I wonder if Penix to the Falcons will be on here next year
I'm not the biggest Pat McAffe fan to put it mildly - but this "we didn't punt much against the Titans" one was hillarious.
Pat is funny in small doses. He’s like ghost pepper hot sauce though. It gets to be too much real fast.
@@zlinedavid I've got nothing against him really, he's just not the type I like a lot. It's purely down to personal taste.
@@bioLarzen he is nuts, but is one of the cases I really like. Refused the biggest contract ever for a punter and decided to try for even more and got it.
But David Akers was better than he was in terms of draft trash talking. The Titans fanbase was cold
@@zlinedavid perfect description.. he's got some good moments on his podcast, good stand up but when I watch him too long I start to want to choke him lol
@@zlinedavid he is INSUFFERABLE on wrestling. I'm not sure if you are a wrestling fan too but I can't watch raw anymore because of him
David Akers trolling the Cowboys will never get old😂😂😂😂
Never 🦅🦅🦅🦅
His high pitch voice resembles that beta male city 😂
Sorry Drew Pearson’s >>>> David Akers.
After all, the Eagles did help his career lol
I'm a Cowboys fan and I crack up every time
@jroc ironic considering the old line about Dallas is all that's there are steers and queers
Hey, the Vikings may have botched that 2003 draft technically, but Kevin Williams was a HOF level player.
And the year prior, they screwed up something in the pick submission process too, and in the process failed to draft Ryan Sims; they got Bryant McKinnie instead, and he turned out way better in the long haul
Basically, you can just draft whoever 😅
@@1998_MIN Just goes to show, for all the analytics and pageantry, the draft is still mostly a crapshoot.
@@hiimemilyIMO, I think the NFL draft is nothing more than an educated lottery. There are some picks that are “obvious” generational talents, but outside of a few players, really anything that can happen. There are so many guys who are phenomenal in college that just don’t translate to the NFL and you have guys who had somewhat decent college careers end up becoming HOF.
I mean shoot, Tom Brady and Brock Purdy are shining examples of you can find quality ANYWHERE on the draft board.
When JAX took Leftwich that wasn't really a blow to the Vikings, they still had Culpepper in his prime. There was no concern there.
They did it on purpose, they got the guy they wanted, for less money. The next 5 teams had no interest in him.
Boom or bust. Players hearing their names on the podium is a moment many don't ever forget. Unless your LT.
man, imagine LT with no "sugar"
13:45 Are those Philip Rivers' kids? Man, he didn't even wait to get drafted before starting his own team.
Look up the stats of Rivers and Joe Burrow in the 2020 Colts/Bengals game. It's safe to say Burrow has surpassed Rivers in one on the field stat.
Brady Quinn pouting in the green room until pick 22 will always be hilarious 😂
Especially his girlfriend didn’t care about him
Even funnier knowing he wasn't that good of an NFL QB but he thought he should've been the #1 pick 😂
@@C-S. "wasn't that good" is a drastic understatement haha he was trash
@@C-S. And yet JaMarcus Russell was taken #1 overall and he out of the league by 09. In fact I don't think a single QB in this draft played a full season. Trent Edwards was probably the best in the draft class and he had 1 mediocre season. Other than Drew Stanton they were all out of the league in 5 years.
It makes it funnier when you remember that he is one of the biggest busts in NFL history. So him dropping made all the sense in hindsight! 😂
The draft is so much better now that they don’t show who the pick is before it’s announced
100% agree, I remember the pick spoiling became a thing on Twitter like 4-5 years ago, and top NFL reporters would basically flex their insider knowledge by getting all the picks right.
I remember Jay Glazer saying he “didn’t care about the NFL’s TV show”, and acted like he was going to continue spoiling picks, but the NFL found a way to stop that nonsense pretty quickly and tell those guys to knock it off.
Drafting a kicker in the first round is wild!💀💀. Only the raiders😂
I mean look at the hall of fame alumni
At least he was really good
saints drafted a punter at 11 in '79 and the guy immediately got hurt
The Jets drafted a kicker in the first round in the last 20 years or so. I think his name was Mike Nugent or something like that.
At least it paid off. As a Bucs fan, Roberto never can close to being worth a 2nd rounder
“If we could trade a coach, I would trade him right now” 🤣
that fan is an idiot. coaches can be traded (Jon Gruden was). and they don't make picks, GM's do.
Cold lmao
Jon Gruden traded to the bucs has entered the chat
Raiders: Write that down. Write that down.
In retrospect, Brady Quinn's slide should be included in a Top 10 Draft "Sensible" Moments! video
Yeah Quinn was definitely over hyped. Played for the Irish, who don't play anyone. They often have QB's who look good, but don't pan out.
@@cdr861532Notre Dame had one of the toughest strengths of schedule in 2006.
How Mike Ditka was not instantaneously fired for the Ricky Williams trade is beyond me.
What’s also surprising was that Washington blew an opportunity to build a dynasty with all those picks.
because Ricky was damn good
@@csnide6702 not that good 😂 dude only made 1 pro bowl his entire career and 1 all pro
@@drunkenmmamaster419 oh... I didn't say you got him for a full season.... he had his issues ... but when he was motivated - he was stellar !
😂 he has border line hof state line sorry he didn't win a couple more popularity contest
As an Eagles fan, the McNabb selection was the right call.
It was and you needed a qb at the time. He balled out at Syracuse
The only thing he did consistently was choke in the biggest moments. When he had the ball last and needed a score to win the game, turn the TV off it wasn't happening.
@@jeffreyval9665 Well, he was the only QB who developed between Tim Couch and Akili Smith.
@logantgood478 Yeah, but that isn't saying much. McNabb was the weak link on those great Jimmy Johnson led defensive teams. Those NFC championship ending picks against the Rams and Bucs were complete chokejobs, and the SB was just too big of a stage for him to handle.
@@jeffreyval9665mCNabb was a good backup caliber QB. He couldn't hang in the league without Andy Reids scheme. He wasn't good.
RIP Bill Tobin. He is a legend for putting crapping on Kiper
Well Bill Tobin wasn't a whole hell of a lot better he was an Fucking loser
a legend for that and he took many good players for the Colts as well. I'm still waiting for Kiper to retire after the Jimmy Clausen debacle, he sure swiveled the opinion towards him being any good
The irony of Kiper pushing Dilfer was the 2 best QBs from that draft class both were the undrafted Kurt Warner and Jeff Garcia.
His son has been one of the head honchos in Cincy for years too like a lot of people don’t realize how much the Tobin family overall impact the NFL.
Is this the season where they went all the way to AFC Championship with JIM HARBAUGH (in Mel Kiper's voice)
I wonder how Ricky Williams and mcnabbs careers would of turned out. Saints never surrender all their picks
If I was Cleveland, I’dve traded the top pick for everything Washington did and maybe one more pick.
Ricky Williams could’ve been the last first overall running back if so.
Say what you will about Tim Tebow. The man won a playoff game with a Denver team that had a losing record. Not many people in this world can say that.
Funnily enough, Kevin Williams had a better career than Gross and Leftwich.
Fr he was 1st all pro for a few years in mn
Brady Quinn took that slide down to 22 so well. It put a chip on his shoulder and he turned it into a mediocre, at best, pundit career.
Mediocre is a big compliment for Quinn’s NFL career
@@Clarkone68 “mediocre, at best, pundit career” and I was careful to phrase it that way. Not his play, but his work as a broadcaster, hence “pundit career”
@ I don’t remember him as a broadcaster. Maybe that’s a good thing
The Bengals were offered more picks by the Saints than they traded to Washington for the 3rd overall pick, the Bengals declined and drafted Akili Smith.
With the way the Bengals drafted back then, they’d have blown them all anyway 😂
Thankfully, they’ve improved recently #whodey
@@zlinedavid yes, the upgrade of the Bengals is remarkable. But get an OL please, I don't want to see Burrow out for a year again
@@otaviofrnazario The OL was disappointing but they didn’t have anything to do with either of Burrow’s injuries directly. The calf strain happened the 2nd day of camp, and the torn wrist ligament started as a partial tear just from repeated throwing, but completely ruptured when he hit his wrist on a defender’s helmet on a follow through.
The Trent Brown pickup should help things a lot. That gives us an anchor on either end of the line.
Jamarcus Russell or Brady Quinn was a lose lose situation for the Raiders
Got to include laremy Tunsil
Clear top choice... NFL official accounts aren't touching that one though haha
Bucs getting Sapp AND Brooks in the first round of the same draft is still insane
5:30 Lmao Pat Mcaffe with the greatest position related burn. 😂
Honorable Mention: Randy Moss sliding down the draft and falling into Minnesota's lap.
Teams don't even need to scout QB's... just ask the Bears if they're interested, and if they say yes, RUN!!!
Damn that’s wild lmao but true
that moment ranks right up there with the immaculate reception and the tuck rule 😫
No surprise that the Raiders fail at the draft
A grande mania do Al Davis de draftar o mais impressionante fisicamente, mas que não tem a habilidade necessária
@@phalch cara, o mais surpreendente foi todo mundo colocar o JaMarcus como #1 geral, e ele já tinha dado mostras durante o ano anterior que ele levava o time pra fora dos buracos que ele mesmo colocava. Ele tinha força e tamanho, mas não tinha precisão. Média dele em LSU foi 61,9% de passes completos, tendo 67,8 no seu melhor ano. Uma pena a gente não ter o next gen stats nessa época pra uma análise ainda mais detalhada.
Além disso o Matt Millen, gerente geral de Detroit na época (péssimo como GM, mas foi um grande jogador dos Raiders e muito querido por várias torcidas na liga, além de amigo do Al Davis), disse que teve que encerrar a entrevista com o Russell mais cedo por ele estar extremamente distraído, sinais de que ele se comportava com estrelismo.
A prova final veio quando ele deu holdout (na época o acordo coletivo não previa contratos de novato, cada um negociava o seu) até a semana 1 da temporada, quando o Raiders deu um contrato de 6 anos, 68 milhões, com 31,5 garantido.
Al sempre foi ruim? Não. Pelo contrário, foi um excelente GM e dono por muitos anos. Tanto que em um ponto da história o Raiders chegou a ter o maior aproveitamento de vitórias entre todas as grandes ligas dos EUA. Mas depois do all in que ele deu entre 2000-02 o Raiders nunca se recuperou.
Bem, ele queria grana rápido por alguma razão. Talvez tenha lido O Método TB12 (ele cita que o tempo médio de carreira na NFL é de 3,3 anos). O Raiders deu o que ele queria, e um idoso senil foi "enganado".
The year the Raiders drafted Mack in round 1 and Carr in round 2 was pretty good for raiders standards but sure lots of complete misses.
Al Davis just kept drafting speed. He was stuck in the 70s, the old idiot.
Tim Tebow won more playoff games than plenty of other first round qb's
So did Sanchez, dilfer, Grossman
He wasn't a good QB, but he did win a playoff game. And it was a late first round pick. If they traded up to 10 and picked him, that's different.
@@Paulafan5 the only success Tebow had was "he won 1 playoff game". Since when is winning a single playoff game considered being a successful NFL QB. Tebow was a waste of a first round pick.
@@C-S. to be fair he was better than jimmy clausen lol the guy they thought denver shoulda picked but seems like a bad qb class overall that year
This isn't a difficult concept but the masses simply cannot grasp it, one player has NEVER won a game. It's never happened, and it never will. Why do you simple minded people fall for such nonsensical manipulation?! It's by far the most absurd belief in all of sports that one player wins games. Imagine believing an entire organization is completely irrelevant except for one player, that's as simple minded as it gets!
At least the Ricky Williams trade put us in Landover in position for Champ Bailey and LaVar Arrington.
And all the Lombardi Trophies collected over the last quarter century is testament to that bounty.
@@Hexon66 Lol
2004: picking 3 straight WRs is stupid
2024: picking 3 straight WRs is solid roster building to help your QB
Add Penix to the Falcons to this!!
Bears trading up and drafting Mitchell Trubisky in 2017 was none other than GM Ryan Pace’s fault! Chicago would’ve assembled and put together a better era if Pace thought twice and decided to draft Patrick Mahomes! That draft moment was definitely considered “Typical Bears” fashion based on how ill-prepared the Bears were! That’s what I call “unBEARable!”
Even if bears drafted Mahomes he probably wouldn't be the same Mahomes of today, bears never develop any QB ever. Coaching matters and Andy Reid Is a HOF coach he knows how to develop his players
Any team can say this lmao, imagine if the 49ers didn’t draft Solomon Thomas.
@@JDBass36that pick was always supposed to be Deshaun Watson.
And they didn't even needed to trade up in the first place which is hilarious
I Agree With You
If I was the bears owner I would turn that into a dome as it would at least give the team a homefield advantage.
The biggest OMG moment happen a day after this vod posted.
Drafting 24 yr old Michael Penix Jr to the Falcons at #8, six weeks after they give Cousins 180 million.
Atlanta fans gonna be happy they did when he becomes top 2 qbs in this draft
Green Bay using a first round pick to draft a QB when they had Brett Favre turned out alright in the long run. This is actually what teams should do. Have a solid starter and bring along a rookie QB slowly. If the rookie is a bust, you still have Cousins. If he's good, trade Cousins for some picks (3rd round, maybe).
Yeah relative projects who would benefit from sitting (especially Love) replacing HOF QBs whom they didn't just pay 100mil guaranteed to come play for them in free agency lol. The situations are not the same. Penix could be a beast and I'm willing to bet he will be a good NFL QB no Falcons fan has an issue with that. The issue arises when we pay Cousins all that money to come play for us when we could've used it elsewhere creating a better team around Penix. Penix will be 24 when training camp starts. Bro was picking his college while Obama was still President 😂😂 he's been playing college football for 6 years. He doesn't need anymore seasoning. He's not a project he's ready to play now. @@Paulafan5
@@Paulafan5 Yeah, but they picked at #24. And they picked Love at #26. They were already good enough at the time that they could make a pick like that. The Falcons weren't that good of a team last year, they needed more.
It wasn't the biggest. Not even close.
Ahhh yes, maybe if we give away our whole draft again for ONE guy. We’ll win a chip ! 😎
That was the moment Ditka should have been considered senile and removed from power.
@@zlinedavid tell me bout it bro, idk how he wasn’t fired on the spot after that 🤦🏾♂️ looking back on it, it’s actually hilarious seeing someone make a dumbfounded decision like that. It just hurts as a fan 🤣
30 years later and mel kiper still has to be the biggest joke of a draft analyst out there
It's hilarious to look at his draft predictions and opinions years later. ESPN keeps paying him because he can remember every player's name.
I thought the same thing, but once I studied it, he's about the best one of them.
Agreed. I don't know why he has had a job for this long.
The entire sports media is wrong 98% of the time, yet 98% of the people who watch regurgitate their nonsensical opinions! Especially in today's world where people are only capable of having an opinion on the exact moment they're living.
The fact that Randy Moss fell to 21....And this is not mentioned. Wow.
We could have had a Barry Sanders/ Randy Moss combo in the late 90s, but the f’ing Lions took Terry Fair at 20. Biggest blunder in a long line of blunders for the Lions.
Lions with the 3 bust draft WR in a row is CRAZZZYYYYYY. But then they got Megatron...4th times the charm.
I’m a huge titans fan and that Pat McAfee bit makes me laugh every time
Was this video because of "who the hell is Mel Kiper anyway" and Bill Tobins recent death?
The Brady Quinn drop turned out to be very prophetic. I had to Google him.
Everybody today is like: "Who the fuck is Brady Quinn?"
Bro was trash in the NFL 😅 Especially that last season for the Chiefs.
I was thinking the same about Christian Ponder😂
Everybody today is a complete moron as evidenced by all the comments in this video.
Decent analyst now
Yeah who is he
Love watching these older draft pick videos. Great moments here. Thanks NFL Throwback!
3:16 in fairness to every NFL team that passed on Brady Quinn they was right 🤷🏻♂️
Signing a player before even drafting him is insane
Prior to the rookie salary cap & every slot having a salary tied to it, that happened more often than you’d think. If I recall correctly, Tim Couch, David Carr & Matthew Stafford all signed before they were announced as the first pick
@@mavhimself I'm pretty sure what ended it was the Rams signing Sam Bradford to an insane contract before the draft and it ended up crippling the franchise for years. It was bad for the league to have a team completely ruin their future like that.
Look at the Lions. Had Stafford Calvin Johnson and Ndamukong Suh all on huge contracts as rookies.. The reason the Raiders took Jankowski in the 1st round was a salary cap issue also.
Williams had 3000 yards the first 3 seasons with the Saints then they just traded him. Made no sense at all.
Trubisky pick still makes me laugh
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Looks like even before playing in the NFL, Phillip Rivers already had like 5 kids.
"The New Orleans Saints receive Ricky Williams."
"The Washington Redskins shall receive the next 47 New Orleans draft picks, Mike Ditka's soul, some land in Shreveport, and a Porsche 959."
Vikings did that in 2003 and again in 2011!! Like trade back, I can’t imagine guys are sitting around oblivious of when their pick is happening only to look up and say “were we on the clock?”
1:06 damn well he made an impact with the eagles! Only the eagles fans are capable of booing in any event
In terms of a points scored to salary ratio, Janikowski might be the best draft pick of all time
If only the team was better mainly the qbs
I loved Al Davis but this pick literally crippled the franchise and we never been the same since.
I never knew a team could run out of time ⌛️
The funny thing was that the show Coach had the same thing happen (to a pro-football team from Minnesota). I'm pretty sure that episode aired before that actual incident.
The fact that they let that happen is pure incompetence on the part of the coaching staff. I wonder who got fired because of that
I know it’s probably not an NFL Top 10 draft moment, but I vividly recall my reaction when the Packers drafted Jordan Love in the first round when they were just coming off an appearance in the NFC Championship game.
Fortunately, it’s looking like the pick is working out pretty well, but my disappointment was immeasurable at the time. I had so many of my non-Packer fan friends hitting me up and rubbing it in on why the Packers weren’t trying to go wide receiver to get Rodgers some help because even I was saying that maybe this is FINALLY the year the Packers draft a WR with their #1 pick.
Well, at least we can now say hindsight is 50/50 because by the time the Packers were picking, the top three wide receivers in Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb and Brandon Aiyuk were already gone and even solid guys like Jalen Reagor and Jerry Jeudy were already gone as well. Michael Pittman Jr. and Van Jefferson have been decent, but probably not worth a first round pick and at least the Pack avoided resident locker room cancer Chase Claypool. It would’ve been nice to see the Packers go for Tee Higgins, who has been REALLY good in Cincy his first four years, but he’s really the only receiver drafted after Love that I think is a justifiable first round pick.
That 1999 draft will forever be legendary for that ridiculous Ricky Williams load
I still remember clearly where I was at that time. I was in a sportsbook with my dad in Vegas watching the craziness go down! lol
Fun fact: There was only one coach in SF who felt Aaron Rodgers was the better QB over Alex Smith. His name? Mike McCarthy.
If Alex Smith didn't get his shoulder destroyed, the conversation would be a lot closer. Smith still came back and had a nice career (his record in KC was pretty good, until they switched over to Mahomes). Also, Rodgers wasn't as polished as Smith. It took him 4 years to really hit his stride (and then blew past Smith).
@@Paulafan5 Additionally, Smith seems to be at least a decent human being which Rodgers had been failing at for a long, long time.
As a Raiders fan talk about a lose / lose in Russell or Quinn when they could have had a prime Joe Thomas / Calvin Johnson / Adrian Peterson / Willis aka Buff Eddie Murphy / Revis Island.
They used to say this about Russell getting drafted and getting that big contract "What is the first thing you do when you win the lottery? quit your job" when talking about his work ethic.
I remember they gave him a blank DVD of film they wanted him to study just to prove to those who didn't understand in the Raiders brain trust how badly he didn't want to work for it.
@@Gungho73 In some ways in makes sense he never needed to work again with proper investment of that contract. Sad for the raiders though. Quinn at least never was lazy like that even if he had way less talent.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Quinn is a weird one to me how we just saw nothing come out of that. His career was gone in a flash. He didn't seem terrible he just melded in like a tree in the woods
@@Gungho73 Some QBs like Quinn teams are better off trading down to the 2nd round and hope he falls to you over taking him high and wasting a first. At least the Browns took him way later in round 1.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants I remember feeling like the weird guy when I watched Malik Willis film and prayed he would fall to the 3rd or 4th round. Because the idea being thrown around he was a 1st rounder was baffling to me, he needed too much work and had he been I cant see that having worked out even remotely. I think that's why i see a lot of people kinda hoping Penix this year falls to the 2nd, is that exact scenario you're describing. Remove some of that pressure.
Friendly reminder that one of the picks SF received from the bears ended up being Fred Warner, arguably the best LB in football today
The fact that Oakland took Seabass in the first round of 2000 still boggles the mind. I’m a Raider fan and he was incredible at times (and one of the most powerful ever), but dear lord, could they really not have gotten him four rounds later? Lmao
R.I.P. Bill Tobin . Smile on our picks this year . Go Colts !
The Bears trading all that draft capital for Mitch Trubisky is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
Da Chicago Bears Traded up to draft Mitchell Trubisky and well that didn't end great because they passed up on Patrick Mahomes who won 3 Superbowls
“Ted Ginn is a very average route runner” truer words never spoken.
Well all he did at tOSU was run the go and had Troy Smith bomb it to him.
I love how people remember the Mel kiper line. People seem to forget that he was yelling at the colts for not picking Trent Dilfer who was a huge bust. So neither one of those men were even remotely correct. And Bill was absolutely right. Mel doesn't lose his job for picking the wrong player. Clearly as Mel is not right all that often he doesn't lose his job for picking the wrong player.
Decision points are what matter, not results. Only a moron would think otherwise.
BTW, Trent Dilfer was a pro-bowler and won a Super Bowl. Not exactly a huge bust. It wasn't his fault Tampa Bay drafted him.
@@jesses5463 hahahhahahahahaha. You're funny in your ignorance
I wouldn’t say a massive bust to me a massive bust is Jamarcus Russel Manziel, Leaf etc
What's funny about the Brady Quinn slide is that the analysts talked him up so much before the draft as a potential 1st overall pick. Then as he slid all the inconsistencies and doubts started being addressed by those same analyst. Made you question whether they really knew what they were talking about.
I noticed that too. Why do fans waste their time on all these pre-Draft shows when the "experts" don't know most of the time.
@@Paulafan5 I've never really understood it, listened to any of them or taken them seriously either. I'd love to see all their records on predicting draft picks, especially Kiper's. I mean if the organizations are getting them wrong more often than not, how are sports journalist who may or may not have played and former players turned analysts going to get anything remotely accurate? 😂
What's so ironic about this statement is, that Todd McShay campaign the whole time for JaMarcus Russell. How did syrup sipping Russell do?
As a lions fan I just want to say its cruel for you to make me relive this
Mel Kiper call Trent Dilfer a franchise QB 🤣
well he has more superbowls than Dan Marino, Phillip Rivers, Donovan McNabb & Jim Kelly combined 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like we could be trade-heavy tomorrow based on multiple reports. Looking forward to more chaos and memorable moments for the 2024 first round!
I wanna see it, but I don't know...
Lions taking 3 wr in a row is wild 😅
That really has to hurt knowing that you could have had Mahomes, but instead got Mitch Trubisky😬
I can't stand Kiper, but he was 100% right about Trev Alberts. That was a ridiculous pick. Even Alberts was surprised he was taken that high.
That Trubisky pick…man.
Before I even watch I am curious to see if Tunsil is an honorable mention. That was one of the most bizzare things to happen in the draft, especially to just watch a young talented mans draft value drop live as we saw the video. It changed that whole topic of the opening of the draft till he was picked up.
la’el collins was crazy too. he was a projected first rounder who went undrafted because of some of the craziest-timed allegations
@@UserName-ts3sp Absolutely. I just remember the draft tableround chat they always have just going from what was clearly through the motions of mostly known/confirmed draft picks to WAIT A SECOND on Tunsil. Like they do a good job of filler audio for the draft process but its rare to just see the dialogue get swapped like that. We get things like Marino for example or Sapp or Randy Moss, but not minutes into the draft. It just felt..bizzare seeing that bong video.
michael penix to the falcons
One of the worst picks ever
Time will tell. @@Laboom-edits
Bo Nix is on line one.
@cityhawk I think Nix will be a more accurate passer than Penix because he's in a Payton offense and is a natural for the position. Penix better have good legs.
@12:59 .. and Crabtree ended up going to the Raiders anyway. smdh. Bey went on to moderate success wtith the Steelers and colts.
Why is brady Quinn slide a top 10 OMG moment. He wasn't an NFL starter and probably should of went in the third round. Good luck to his analysis career.
No one knew how his NFL career would turn out -- you have to go off of predraft evaluations which had him rated highly.
All those teams that were right on Brady Quinn... and Mel Kiper.
Love this ❤ #NFLDRAFT2024
The Daniel Jones pick is the only thing missing from this countdown.
I screamed my head off when the Giants made that pick. Let's just say I used a few four-letter words. That was a terrible year for QBs. The Giants made the better pick than Washington, but it wasn't exactly a high bar to hurdle. 🤬
Great video
Great memories
A kicker at 17 would break the internet in 2024
Doing the Lions dirty not mentioning them drafting Calvin Johnson after drafting all those WR's, which was absolutely the right pick.
That draft had Adrian Peterson, Darrelle Revis, Marshal Yanda, Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Joe Thomas, Ryan Kalil all go after Calvin Johnson. Still the right pick.
Add Michael Penix to this list
I love the smirk tagliabue gets whenever he’s about to announce a bad pick
14:01 Good trade for Washington. 😎
If the Cowboys had drafted Johnny Manziel in 2014, it would've been the greatest moment in NFL Draft history.
I 1000000% thought they we're updating this with the Penix pick ahahhahaah Well played @NFL Throwback
The chiefs trading up to get mahomes is the greatest draft day trade in American sports history
actually the worst for everyone other than chiefs fans
RIP to Mr. "Who in the hell is Mel Kyper" Bill Tobin
It's still so incredible to me that Mike Ditka, with all that football knowledge, who once was quoted saying "Good players don't make a good team, a good team makes a good team", would end up trading an entire draft to take one good player. Ricky Williams was a generational running back 100%, but the Saints needed more than one outstanding player to be a good team. Ditka could have done that with all those picks and he ended up crippling the franchise for years to come.