More Alien Megastructures? Two Extraterrestrial phenomena baffle NASA astronomers!
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2024
- Two new discoveries this year have baffled astronomers, defying all natural explanation! But what about artificial explanations?
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The case for artificial pulsars...
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For real
The word 'clickbait' is often used inappropriately. I mean, it's just a good old school, tried and tested headline.
Agreed with the friendly one.
Well said
@@SiriusBlue-bl8sx True!
If the recent findings turn out to be aliens, we’re going to look like idiots to history students in the future. “They detected dozens of clear alien signals, most of which were designated as pulsars and quickly forgotten about.”
Dr Paul LaViolette has written books about pulsars actually being clear alien signals... decades ago. Of course he was ignored despite the fact he made clear logical arguments.
If you want to read a unified field theory that actually predicts and explains things far better than the current nonsense, check out his book SubQuantum Kinetics.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens. We have to exhaust all other options before we can even truly entertain aliens. It's just a ridiculously high bar to reach. Oumuamua could've been alien tech for all we know. It's not like we actually checked. We just theorized ways it could've been natural and decided that was more likely.
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@@urphakeandgey6308 I’m not suggesting we jump to conclusions. What frustrates me is that most people are on board with searching for technosignatures, but nobody is allowed to entertain the idea that we’ve found one. And too often, when we find something we can’t explain, it gets brushed aside and nobody wants to touch it.
They cant hide it anymore. We are not alone!!! 👽
Its everywhere.
Exactly... But to be honest, they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
@Marstruth they're still threatening whistleblowers.
Seriously! We are not alone! In fact, it looks like it's a bit crowded! Who would've thunk it? Wild times we're living in...😮
We never were.
I am so thankful that someone has finally said out loud what I have been saying for years about pulsars and magnetars. They just keep finding reasons for it to be natural. Just because something could be explained by a very rare situation, doesn’t mean it is. I could probably explain the amount of water displaced by a whale due to different natural phenomena like ice falling into water from a glacier. Doesn’t mean that it was that as opposed to a whale breaching the water.
Angry, I suggest reading about the Extremely Large Telescope being built here in Chile. It could provide more evidence when it is operational in 2027 or 2028.
I think the coming decade should give us the capability to find at least a few other Alien technosignatures. If there is knowledge that we aren't alone, this idea of the opposite, is living on borrowed time, because we'll know soon enough, plus AI advancement will probably detect something we've missed.
I’m a new viewer to Angry Astro and enjoying the no nonsense coverage. I will say this about the signals we are observing all over from different stars, WOW, Tabby’s, Ommuamua and etc -
We’re not discovering alien signals because we are not actually looking. SETI is a NASA analogue of “we wish we could guys but we just can’t”
Thanks for the content. You’re a breath of fresh air Mr. Astro
Yeah. B O plenty.
We definitely need to observe for far longer for evidence.
Pulsars could be part of some FTL Highway 🛣️ 🌌🚀
Even at sublight speeds it would be incredibly useful for not crashing into stuff
Some years ago Dr. Jill Tarter speculated that although the great majority of pulsars have natural origin, a few of them, the more slowly, could be artificial.
Angry my boy...I hope everything ok with family 😢 reading names beginning of video, I'm near tears here, you are the real stuff & I love your work - pls never stop ❤
Are some of these objects in the Northern Hemisphere sky? If so, can't SETI's Allen Radio Telescope Array do some of the long-term monitoring required of these unusual pulsars to determine if they're natural of artificial? Instead of just passively listening for alien communications? If not, maybe SETI needs to build some radio telescopes in the Southern Hemisphere.
One thing we're discovering too is that space is really weird and absolutely crazy and definitely not like many of us thought.
Jordan, you're a brilliant researcher with few equals!
What “research” did he do?
Angry, have you seen the Webb shot of tons of supernovas? Extrapolating to the whole sky means 414 million of supernovas going off at any given moment.(Anton Petrov’s calculation)
Best channel on RUclips on the subject. Period. Good work. Thanks for your rational detailed perspective.
Is it more probable that there’s a natural explanation, or is it statistically more likely that it’s the work on intelligent civilizations?
Given the sheer size of the universe and number of stars, there must be life EVERYWHERE, and to think what a civilization that has a million year head start could do.
Occams Razor is not always right…
There will come a time when we recognize that the simplest explanation is actually the artificial one...when we realize that interstellar civilizations are more common than we supposed.
Stars obscured by hot dust galaxy's. It's already debunked.
@@TheAngryAstronaut that's such a dumb comment. I can literally apply that to anything to show you how. When my car doesn't start, it must be unicorns. If the train is late, it must be dinosaurs. If my lunch is cold, it's because my boss was late to work. 99.999999 times out of 100 the simplest answer is the right one. For that rare occurrence when it's not, it requires a bit more than just jumping to the most ridiculous reason.
I have no doubt there are other civilisations out there somewhere, but mate, you literally think anything is aliens. Smudge on the wall = Aliens.
@@mervstash3692 unicorns are mythical buddy and dinosaurs are extinct, life is natural in the universe, we are not in The Human Show, time to remove thine head from thine arse, we are not 100% believing these signals are alien, that would be kinda dumb, but some people sure are 0% believing, very smart, i'm sure ;)
Great episode. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
The trouble is scientists think with the model they have they know the rules and can’t understand they don’t wright the rules, it’s like looking through small hole into a darkened room seeing a broken pencil so so they think they know nothing worthwhile in their completely missing rolls-Royce Ferrari, and the Ark of the covenant in the corner, but insist nothing there, it really goes to show they know nothing, and should have a open mind and rule nothing out, those who keep their minds open is the ones who will be remembered, just like those in history who were open minded and realised the world was not flat and not at the center of to the universe
These buggers can't find 35% of the Universe and can't explain 60% of the rest. Calling it dark this and that satisfies no one.
Agree with your conclusion
Great video. What if there is essentially a reoccurring loop in space-time? Maybe there is a star that explodes and is stuck in a repeating space-time loop
Great video 😊
Was wondering if you release this show as podcasts, or if you ever have thought of converting episodes to podcasts?
Would be very handy as most of your content is speach that doesn't really require images.
Anyway,thanks for all your effort you already give us 👏
Brilliant ! You got home 🙏 Oooow Dyson spheres and now this ! 😃👍👏👏🖖love it !
Brilliant episode 👏🏻
Oumuamua was Rama. Have we seen Ringworld yet? So cool.
Great video!!! My thoughts exactly!
Strong signal, weak signal, no signal; sounds a bit like a Barcode.
Or my ex wife.
If it's a binary code then you can use information theory to determine the entropy and thus whether the emissions are random.
I think it’s extremely unlikely that the slow pulsar (or whatever it is) if of intelligent origin but there are a lot of good reasons to keep studying it to rule out that possibility and to learn more about how it works.
I always enjoy your content - thanks for all your work.
Here we go again. " Scientists say".
They have no clue.
Just subscribed really like your content and honesty. Like to buy some merchandise but couldn’t find it
I would hypothesize this magnatar is partially collapsed into a blackhole. The emission fluctuations are an effect of the gravitational differences in the star.
great video, great graphics
Should do a wide-band survey of pulsors or pulsor like objects, and then look for any binary repeaters. I doubt there's much in nature that would have something count off in binary, so it should be an obvious artificial thing. And it really doesn't need to convey much data either, just follow an expected sequence of numbers.
Alien megastructure is a human idea.
So are black holes and dog water bowls but that didn’t stop them from existing.
Love your work man. Hope you’re doing ok after your family crisis. ❤
Dr Becky (The Competition!) discussed the slooooow pulsar last week. IIRC speculation of a pulsar with a repression field (?) that builds and builds like a capacitor then -wham- it releases.
It could with a proper gas/dust cloud surrounding it. The energy could accumulate and discharge like lighting with proper spacing between the inner and outer layers. Natural frequencies could resonate for the slow period like the Earth’s magnetic field ringing from a corona discharge.
I got my degree in Electrical Engineering and was always fascinated by electrostatic phenomenon.
What if we are in an electric universe and all dark matter is really an aspect of magnetism?
I have a masters degree from the School of Hard Knocks, so please explain why Im wrong slowly.
So interesting and so over my head!
Geology scientists didn't want to believe or research the catastrophic morphology theory as shown by the Montana scab lands and the Lake Missoula floods nor did anthropologists want to accept any pre Clovis evidence in the America's for many years.
Silly human nature..
@@SomeGuy-hd4cn A definition of electric universe would be needed and agreed on before an explanation could be attempted
Woah that’s one strange pulsar if it is one. I was thinking a near collision on a white dwarf or something similar that’s rotating closely around it. But that’s just a wild guess. Thanks angry! Great episode man
"Scientific Community": maybe Aliens don't exist and we are the only life in the Universe.
Me: trillions stars but only one lottery winner: us.
There isn’t enough trees to make the paper to re-write all the books 😅
Even before watching this movie I am absolutely sure that these phenomena would be totally omitted in media, or some channels would use some ordinary explanations, in an attempt not to mention that something is going on here. Good to have you here Angry Astronaut.
Maybe it's a warning beacon and only activates when a craft approaches it.
It is most likely that highly advanced space-travelling civilisations would leave some sort of signal to the rest if the universe, which would persist well beyond their own existence.
I feel that a highly advanced, morally developed civilisation would want to leave clear marks of its existence, even if it were eventually destroyed. It would surely also see no greater purpose in its existence, especially if it faced inevitable extinction, than to leave an immense cache of knowledge to future civilisations - so that they might benefit and survive.
It is up to us to discover these treasures left in the universe.
the anglerfish also comes to mind when i think of this
Capacitors and coils, inductance and reluctance. They do weird things.
I'm pretty sure megastructures like Dyson spheres are a logistical impossibility due to their size. Stars are generally millions of times larger than the surrounding planets. Building a Dyson sphere would require more resources than every planet in the solar system combined. In other words, if you took all the planets in the solar system and reduced them to building materials it still wouldn't even be close to enough for a Dyson Sphere. Its just not possible.
The bitrate of that transmission would be unbelievably low.
Nothing can be proven by a primitive civilization such as we have, that a secret message can’t piggyback on pulsar signals
3 States. Sending, Receiving and Waiting. A repeater that can handle unfathomable data?
Sounds like a VOR with morse identifier.
Slow rotation could do to something or orbiting
Can Astronomers somehow be "forced" to explain their failure to imagine possible artificial explanations(forced to admit to their fear of damaging their reputations)?
It makes more sense that the dyson spheres we say are out there are stellar engines
create a new pulsar and then wait 20 000 years to be able to see it from 20 000 ly distance? So even if you are able to use FTL it seems to be impractical create a pulsar as a navigation point. At least at our timescale.
Binary stars white dwarf and neutron orbiting each other.
Brilliant show, I didn’t understand 99% of it. Stay angry, or stay confused in my case😅
Please keep reporting on these things!
How will the people of Earth react when it is revealed without doubt that was are an ant hill in the middle of a hurd of elephants?
Tell you what after Three Body Problem, I think we need to be very careful in alien contact…
Lets not forget we use microwave EM waves for communication, for example 5g
The Pulsar Map on the golden disc would mean nothing to ET.
1. Their definition of frequency must be the same as ours. Basically they must define their time perception upon a second.
- Unlikely!
2. Their angle of view does not match with the pulsars on the map. Without #1, it is very hard to redirect this map.
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If I recall correctly, the frequencies, sizes, and time intervals on that disk are all expressed in proportion to the hydrogen 21 centimeter emission line (which is itself depicted via a diagram). So, aliens would not need to know anything about our measurement units; they would just need to know some basic physics and facts about the universe.
Dude! But what about the Bermuda Triangle!
Experienced Navy pilots with malfunctioning instruments. Energy crystals on the ocean floor. Crop circles! Ancient aliens.
Arrgh! We’re all gonna die!!!
NICE ONE, hungry and angry.
Seizure warning on this one 😂
It's enough microwave energy to cook your Ready Meal in 0.36ms
Truth Revolution imminent 🔥
Hey Angry Astronaut…we should be trying to detect other civilizations because of the important questions it could answer about our own future and what we might expect in our own future. But…just detecting them could be a form of interaction. Could they determine our presence because we observed them in some form of quantum entanglement?….,,,,,
What about red shifting? we are measuring microwaves here but it might be infrared at the origin point
LGM. Little green man... That's how pulsars were first described.
Our species absolutely insane.
Another source of microwaves is hot plasma. Those microwaves can be focused in a horn and used as a propulsion method. So what we could be seeing, is the exhaust of such a craft. If it can be determined to be moving away from us, then it becomes near certainty that's what it is.
Something akin to a cosmic Morse code? Just need to crack it. 😮
Dyson spheres seem fantastical. Creating an encompassing sphere around the volume of a star sounds a bit much. NHI, is real. Or, at east the crafts. Experiencer Truth.
That's where I'm at with them too. Assuming you can build fusion and/or matter-antimatter reactors, a dyson sphere/swarm is pretty much a non-starter. Jut take the star with you instead.
Anything you haven't figured out how to do can seem fantastical. History is littered with tales of people with quite modest technical prowess completely overwhelming others one step behind. As Arthur C Clark put it "any sufficiently.advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
The original Dyson sphere doesn't even talk about a solid sphere covering a star. The concept originally referred to a huge fleet of satellites surrounding a home star (think of Starlink, but instead used for harnessing energy). So in that regard, the first concept of Freeman Dyson is more "realistic" in a technical design sense. (Though, of course, it is still fantastic to us Kardashev Type 0.5 civilization humans)
ok so we know where voyager 1 and 2 are (NASA still talks to them)!somww can be sure aliens on pulsars havent gotten them and sent back their coordinates yet...
If we assume that Dyson Spheres or similar megastructures, intended to extend the lifetime of solar systems exist (or existed), then we must ask ourselves how a civilisation can peacefully overcome self-destructive ideologies that would oppose the development of such structures. I am here thinking particularly of irrational, religious ideologies that would dogmatically and ideologically demand the defiance and destruction of such advanced structures.
What if it was a mistake of trying to make a reliable pulsar?
Why is there some areas blurred
I'm angry about this Angry Alien Theory 👽👽👽👽
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It is the other earth our double sending signals to us and we them. However they cancel each other out!
You'll be fine the truth always comes out
Thank you for reporting on this. Super-interesting in that it doesn't seem to have a natural pattern. Some weird irregular transmission or signal. (ʘ_ʘ) That should get astronomers' attention because it's pretty different! One wonders about this radio source, and is it traveling at some speed, or is it travelling at rest with respect to the galaxy, like a navigational beacon.
Speaking not even of the artificial possibility of this object the researchers themselves said it was a anomalous event that can't be explained. Why wouldn't we study that the most as that's obviously where the science is?
I heard that one explained once - 99 out of 100 science anomalies are really mundane when you get to the bottom of them, and they each take months to investigate. So, naturally, people explore things that they are already interested in.
Hello Anger Astronaut, long time listener here. I think there are lots of UFO's that are not biological life forms from other solar systems. Also other then the six types life forms here on earth I do think that the Almighty Created other life forms not on earth. Take a look at the book of Revelation 4 vs 6 - 9 for example. Of all the space news shows I think I have the most incommon with you (generational thing). Love the show 👽😇
Hmmm, if life exists in Proxima B anything with sight living will likely have big eyes due to the type of star and planet environment. We may have found the home of the so called Grey Aliens heheh
Can you make a movie about coining terms like "dark comets" to move on with the agenda?
Man has always looked for gods, angles or life in the stars Why would astronomers stop now?
That's a really good question. Maybe science has removed itself too far from poetry and the experience of human emotion.
Could it not be several objects superimposed due to gravitational lensing? I mean, I’d love it to be ETs, but just playing devils advocate.
I've always felt we limit ourselves to a one way thinking approach. Seems dumb to me. As for sending out our address to the universe, I think if there is other advanced life forms out there and if they are remotely like us....we're screwed. We are a war mongering people that beleve we should conquer everything. They could be the same but way more advanced and powerful. Just a thought.
It's V'ger coming home...
But we know there are no vacuums in space!
I have an ET friend. It knows a lot about astronomy. It says your theories are all bunk.
Hey, what are you smoking and can I have some?!
@@lundsweden It's a drug called sarcasm. Only smart people can smoke it, though.
@@gregoryeclifford Thanks Einstein
Starlink.
It’s Two Borgs heading our way…..don’t worry about your credit card debt…
The first one is most likely a pulsar that has something orbiting it partially and completely blocking the beam, a longer observation will tell us what is going on. Its slow rotation is not that significant, most likely it is a really old pulsar that has not had any new matter added to it like with the faster ones, if memory serves one of the fastest pulsars is thought to be at the limit of becoming a black hole and its spin is keeping it from collapsing. It is possible that maybe it is a artificial object, a long observation will tell us once again. Now the second one is interesting, time will tell on that one. As for white dwarfs behaving like pulsars, apparently that is a thing in reality so dismissing that idea is pretty sloppy on your part.
Actively looking at unusual patterns in astronomy, has become the space version of investigating covid origins and the jab mandates lol
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Could this odd Pulsar actually be a binary system. There are two or even three separate stars that were formed at the same time, about the same size. They both, or all three became pulsars. They are orbiting around each other. So you see one patter, that pulsar continues it's orbit. It's pattern is now blocked by the next pulsar, they continue to orbit, the first two are blocked by the third. Now back to the first pulsar.
Mmmmmmm. Neutron soup. ❤
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