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Scientist think THIS is Alien?!
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Astronomers may have found signatures of an alien megastructure right in our own galaxy. But they didn't just find one, they may have found seven! Let's find out if these mysterious objects are Dyson Spheres or something else entirely!
Research Papers:
arxiv.org/pdf/2405.14921
arxiv.org/pdf/2405.02927
arxiv.org/pdf/2403.18941
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There's enough ads as it is
It's never Aliens, always some space clouds or a flash of light off Venus. Yep just us , trapped on this planet with you guys. Derp.
as a french i love what ur doing
I'm pretty sure you have a better chance of finding an alien in your back yard than of finding a Dyson sphere anywhere...
From an engineering and navigation perspective, they also dont make much sense. People just focus on the concept of free energy like it was some kind of wireless magic
I tend to agree
@@Hermentotip a dyson swarm however is literally just what you would expect a stellar civilisation that grew enough would look like
So where do you guys work as astronomers? Physicists? Scientists? Or are you simply disagreeing to disagree. Simply because you cant comprehend the technology needed to accomplish such a feat. Look at how far weve come in 100 years. Now imagine a civilization that's had 1000, 10,000, even 100,000 years to stop fuckin fighting amongst themselves and progress to a level of evolution which, to us, is simply unfathomable. We can do it. We just have to have a collective, global society. We all must have the same goal. We dont have to agree on religion, we dont even have to like each other. However we MUST learn to set our differences aside for the sake of humanity. For our planet. For our children.
Well I am happy divorced now, but can ensure I had an Alien in my garden, yes. However it doesnt matter what we find. We need to explain what we find.
This is where all the vacuum cleaners are made.
Larry Nivens’ Ringworld series is the best at helping me envision how vast structures of that size would be.
Larry Niven advanced an idea that perhaps would be less improbable than a Dyson sphere and more along the lines of a Dyson swarm; Take apart all the planets in a solar system and use the raw materials to build a Ringworld placed in the goldilocks zone of a star. Spin it for gravity on the inside surface and build a set of solar energy convertors in a close orbit of the sun that transmits the energy to the Ringworld via microwave.
( maybe Tabby's star has a Ringworld still under construction? )
Yeah, if there were to be anything like this I feel it would have to be a Dyson Swarm. But ultimately I feel all these examples will just be more examples of the Tabby’s Star story.
@AncientEgyptArchitecture Yeah, I keep waiting (seriously wanting) Hollywood to dramatize Niven's "Known Space" stories. Wookies are just Kzin wannabes.
Niven himself has said the basic material of the structure, "scrinth", would need to have structural properties we can't duplicate yet. I don't see how a Dyson Sphere (a solid, if hollow, physical ball some 2 AU in diameter could be put in place without collapsing inward, unlike a Ringworld which can orbit the star in roughly any plane like that of its equator. A Dyson Swarm seems much more plausible and would also have the advantage of being hard to distinguish from something like a proto-stellar cloud. You forgot to mention that the inner ring of solar panels also was a defense mechanism and simulated a day/night cycle.
Ringworld was unstable he later retrofitted it with bussard ramjets to keep it from oscillating…
@@craigmooring2091 I was trying to keep it short.
Yes, but in the notes of Ringworld he stated that it was better to build a large number of smaller rings. And was convinced by someone else who he was talking to about his Ringworld. I don't remember all of the details. But I'm pretty sure that it was in "Ringworld Engineers", book 2 of the Ringworld series. His fix for building only one Ringworld was Epic!
A Dyson sphere would only seem practical to me if it were built around a red dwarf star because they're small and they essentially live forever (trillions of years) before exhausting their fuel. That also means they'd be far too small for us to see from Earth.
If it were possible, I’d argue a class G star like our sun would be better. Sure, it’s a lot larger, but it’s not as unpredictable and unstable like a red dwarf.
@@officialinterstellarnews Instability wouldn't necessarily be an issue if the star is fully contained.
No, it would be the biggest issue
I remember an episode of Star Trek TNG where they came upon a Dyson Shere in space.
Great episode! Was Scotty’s return too!
Just started watching this video. And hoping its not another click bait 😂 0:19
Give it a chance. I get to all of that 🌭😎
I have a Dyson vacuum but thinking about getting the sphere
Solar panels on satellites would be easier to set up abd maintain then a giant hamster ball
Wait a minute, you say the 7 anomalies were detected inside the Milky Way galaxy. Quasars are subtypes of active galactic nuclei. And Hot DOGs are a rare type of quasar. These things are of galactic size and importance, you can't have 7 quasar-like anomalies inside a dormant galaxy such as the Milky Way. That doesn't make any sense.
Sure you can. Quasars aren’t only at the center of galaxies, they’re also all throughout galaxies as well.
@@officialinterstellarnews Ok, interesting
@@milanstevic8424yeah, you understand we're only on one spiral arm of the Galaxy and that our Solar system is not the entire Milky Way? Our Galaxy is a thousand times bigger than our own little section here.
@@CriminalonCrime I'm afraid we're not on the same level, regardless of what you think.
I'm sorry. But that's really still all theoretical. Same as Red shift light waves. We have not tested it yet. So theory. Blackholes are closer to not being theory, because of gravity lensing. But still theory. You can not change scientific methods from theory to fact. Period. I wish they would at least say this. Big bang still a theory. Blackholes still a theory. Quasar of galactic size, theory. And dismisses blackhole gravitational math. So, theory. So bitching about theory is honestly useless. Just like this message.
The civilization on the other side💫🪐 thinks our asteroid belt is a dyson sphere
That’s some hot work building a Dyson Sphere around a star. 😂
theres more than just 3 levels of the kardashev scale these days but we try not to think about type 4 and above since they would appear like gods to us!
We don’t talk about Level IV civilizations 🫣
I quite liked the way you went about explaining the reasoning behind the (potential) claim. Interesting and entertaining.
I appreciate that! Doing my best 🚀
Uh oh, a Kardashian scale? Let's stay a type 0, please. XD
3:31 When you said 0.7, I thought "that's being generous." If humanity can't learn to be happy with nothing, they'll never be happy with everything.
How many galaxies would have to be completely deconstructed and reprocessed to provide the material to construct a dyson sphere?
I like the idea of a total dyson sphere, but not just 1 that harnesses the power of the sun.
But the type that is built more massively to the point where the inside surface hangs around the goldilocks zone, or the correct distance for which it is just right for life to potentially flourish.
I suspect that while the one that is designed to simply harness the power of the systems sun is early to mid-Kardashev, the one I mentioned is borderline 3 and might be undetectable in a infrared wavelength.
If it is detectable, it would be more difficult to identify due to the extra mass of material built into the sphere itself as well as the extra-large scale of it.
It would at the very least take all of one star systems materials stripped to nothing, and at most 2 to build one on that scale.
A civilization could inhabit more space and land in such a way.
It is otherwise what I call a colony sphere.
The ultimate space colony.
And a good way to hide from other space faring civilizations.
Anything that generates heat and energy is detectable in the infrared. If Dysonspheres exist of any size then we'd of detected them by now. They just don't exist.
Actually that's guite genius really, physically daunting but super smart. Any bodies outside the Goldilocks Sphere would just appear to be rogue planets if even reflected at all. A massive ring like that could possibly support trillions of lifeforms with all the power they would ever need. It would also create multiple escape vectors in a sort of buffer zone if the star ever collapsed by mitigating the force of the explosion, bravo!👏🏻
Furthermore, it might be possible for Humanity to create this mass if we spent the next thousand years syphoning all the gas off our outer planets and solidifying it and then strip all the solid material off its surface and moons, collected every asteroid in the Keiper Belt, then reassembled it all as we would need, we might have enough material for at least 3/4s of this construction. Perhaps it's time we as a species collect all the material data of our solar system and find a suitable spot within our Goldilocks zone that will make this possible, and present the findings to the world nations and make it Humanity's goal!
@@CriminalonCrime I agree. :)
The idea of a Dyson Sphere is ludicrous at best.
It's hard to imagine that structure exists. Even a Red dwarf star is the size of hundreds of Jupiters. You'd need to eviscerate hundreds of planets for the resources
Wrong it's the MASS of 80 - 100 Jupiters. They actually found a red dwarf star smaller than Saturn.
@mistercomment1622 You're speaking semantics. Sizes of red dwarf vary greatly, but that's not the point at all. My point is, even at 80 Jupiter sized planets, the materials needed to build a Dyson sphere would exceed the amount of usable materials in the solar system.
@@ronadams3107 Dude, a planet 80 time larger than Jupiter would be about 8 times bigger than the sun, mass is related to weight not size!
How would you transfer the energy
LASER or MASER.
How would the energy captured/generated from these Dyson structures be actually distributed for use?
I feel like if we could get then there we would be able to have a solution to that
More likely to be the carbonised remains of planets encircling the star or the remains of a twin star which was consumed by it's bigger sister,or both
Great show
🚀 Thank you!
Will they help me pay my bills?
I love these little chats. Everybody turns into Carl Sagan all of a sudden, instead of just commenting “that’s interesting “.
Whoa…so hotdogs are just out there in the universe? 😮🌭
Well, sort of 😎
I want a hotdog now.
@galacticgiveaways7047 If the universe is truly infinite then, yes.
Yup...but only with mustard and onions
We kind of make Dyson Spheres on earth with solar panels...sorry if this is already mentioned in the video 😂
The Langoliers?
Did aliens inven Dyson spheres or did we?
No hotdog arent only out there at the universe
I have always been intrigued by the notion of these spheres. Sounds logical. My question is yes, you are collecting, but how are you transferring this energy,
The most likely way it would be done, with our current technology at least, is to transmit microwaves back to collectors here on the surface. Then it’s just basic circuits class stuff. Convert microwaves with a rectifier diode and bam, converted into storable energy.
Space is amazing, yet scary! Great video!
Thank you so much! I agree, it’s terrifying and humbling.
@@officialinterstellarnews very humbling! And I can easily go in too deep where my brain hurts hahaha
I've seen this on other channels recently. VERY INTERESTING CONTENT!👍🏻🇺🇲
Probably asteroid belts
You could use all of the material from everything orbiting the sun, which would amount to less than 10% of the needed mass to form just one ring!
While the concept is interesting.
I think, energy in vs energy out under ANY circumstances makes a DC unfeasible.
Time won’t tell anything. Even if they found out that it was a Dyson swarm they would never confirm that to the public. At this point tho we need to stop asking the question are we alone tho bc we’re definitely not.
Dyson Spheres seem pretty unlikely. Not only impossible to build, but they would be so inefficient, there would be no point.
I would tend to agree (about the unlikely and inefficient bits) but also we have to admit that we have no idea of the sources of energy available to such a civ, or what their energy requirements might even be. Most systems are probably full of rubble left over from planetary formation, so if you have intelligent machines to scoop up the raw material and do the building for you and you have the need for the vast amount of energy you could harvest for whatever other grandiose project, they could be the way to go.
@@-yeme-the energy needed to grab that much would be wasteful and not logical..
I think it could regenerate a lot of energy. Imagine how much energy solar panels could produce when their around the sun. It would be enormous and you could use that energy to stay in the right orbit. Expanding it would be also pretty easy
The thing about detecting an advanced galactic civilisation is we are so hyper focused on it having to use Dyson spheres or swarms. It just seems really arrogant of us to assume it can only be this way. If such a civilisation is that advanced, is it not conceivable they have come up with some other method we have no knowledge of and are not looking for. Or it may well just be it's the best we can come up with in our understanding but either way I don't think that people who are looking for SETI should limit the search to just this.
They don’t, look up the “Breakthrough Listen” project.
I think it’s more likely that as our tech has gotten better we are seeing new things that couldn’t be seen before. I just think these are new types of stars. If one was a Dyson swarm that would be jaw dropping but to find seven would be frightening. That means one species is building swarms all over OR there’s up to seven different species out there that can do this. And of course there’s the doomsday scenario where someone’s “Von Neumann” construction drones have gotten out of control and are now building Dyson swarms everywhere. 😳 😂
from what distance the aliens would have to travel to "transport" the energy collected, how to transport it, to share it. They would need to tele-transport it with a technology unknown to us. Thus we are talking about things we don't know , by people we don't know and that we don't understand. Still good to elaborate something but it's far stretched.
If its alien super structures then we are incredibly lateto the stage and its not going to end well for us.
Our Sun contains 98% of the total mass of the solar system. The remaining mass that the planets comprise is simply not sufficient for you to create a "Dyson Sphere". Even if you melted all the planets together and made a shell out of them, you still would not have enough material to surround our star.🤨
It would have been easier to just plug in an electrical extension cord.
Dyson spheres maybe? Created by robotic technology. Although it seems that project is a waste of time. Because humans always too busy with Survival.
I am sorry but I do not think Dyson spheres make as much sense as we are supposed to think. If a civilatiin can create a Dyson sphere isn't antimatter far more potent? Plus you can use it anywhere unlike a Dyson sphere you have to transmit its energy
Antimatter cancels matter.. so in theory it can be used for energy but maybe not building with.
Create anti-matter for energy by using a Dyson sphere then use the Dyson sphere to move around the universe collecting more building materials & creating more anti-matter.
Then create life and watch it grow & see how long it takes to detect you.
Like a baby saying dadda for the first time. Thereby acknowledging itself by announcing a parent as an individual.. the process continues for thousands of millenia¹⁰×¹⁰⁰⁰? & repeating ..
And how are they supposed to get Anti-Matter?
While it's true that Anti-Matter/Matter reactions are the most efficient at producing energy, it's still not a realistic way of generating energy, since as you might guess, Anti-Matter is not a common material in the universe, and in order to make Anti-Matter, you'd have to use more energy to create it than the Anti-Matter could generate through collisions with regular matter.
Where are you going to get all the antimatter that you need
Nooo that's my NIIT neighbour fren
If you stifle any star’s light and energy, all of the planets sand moons it supported would suffer.
A crime of solar system proportions.
OK but what is the point? If we have made 'level 3' I'd imagine we'd have boxed off Nuclear Fusion, therefore, limitless energy anyway....
Well, fusion energy control would be within a Type I civilizations capabilities. That’s a great source of energy for Earth. But if we wanted to explore other planets or areas in our solar system or beyond then you need an energy source in space. A Dyson Swarm could transmit the energy captured in microwaves to where we needed it to go and convert it to storable energy.
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@@officialinterstellarnews bad ending: bro got 😐
If I get there with my Tesla spaceship to check out their Dyson sphere, I hope they let me plug in to recharge for the flight back.
What if its like those floating cone thungs in ocean to k ow what is too far but for space
No sir, No living being Can build a structure like this around a star despite its size😅
There is a problem with saying one explanation is more likely than another. If you know lot about dust clouds and nothing about aliens, how can you determine the relative probabilties of the explanations? How do you measure an unknown?
Simple probability distributions. Even if aliens were abundant, they would still never be as abundant as dust and debris surrounding stars and systems.
How many earth years are in a light year
A light year isn’t a direct measurement of time, but rather a measurement of distance an object or photon of light travels at the speed of light per 365 days
indeed fun thought
I hope Dyson gives more then a 3 year warranty on the sphere because their vacuums are garbage!
Increasing our intelligence and technology i would assume we learn to live in a natural environment which would not need to exploit a planet and sun to build a monstrous piece of technology.
If a type 1 civilization collapse what happens the environment
Depends on the civilization and how much they have affected the environment. But more than likely a planet would just go about as usual and grow over any civilization that failed to make room for something else.
I think it’s what it looks like
As things tend to do
That's a lot of material you would need for a single sphere. We couldn't do it. theres not enough material in our solar system. If we got it from else where in the galaxy there would be no need
10:52 Ancient Aliens
AAAAAAALIENS!!!!!
This is old news but good report. Did they just released this discovery find? How about the floating City with Giants Angels like creatures flying? Not sure why this people can't handle or hide their important findings? Not smart at all.
🤷 if you all knew how easy it actually is to collect the emfs that device would seem useless
Ok so what material are they using to build around a star … ? definitely not anything from our planet
Sure you could. Just use whatever the Nokia3310 was made of and flex tape. It’ll be indestructible 😎
@@officialinterstellarnews I was thinking A bit of gorilla glue😭😭💯
I have to disagree with you on the subject of a Black hole /Quasar eating the galaxy around it being cooler than fiding out that their really are highly advanced aliens out there is true
Haha fair enough, to each their own. For me, it’s mainly because we have evidence one and not the other. It’s cooler to me because we can actively study quasars.
@@officialinterstellarnews it is still incredibly cool and really interesting
A Dyson sphere would be a structure based on our current technology..na T3C would not encapsule a star.bthey would rater generate a wormhole sucking or leeching energy from a star. The implication of encapsulating a star without understanding the implicating the effect that would have on the rest for it's starsystem is lacking in the Dyson sphere theory. There is also no theory how the energy would be harvested from the solar panels to the "battery" and how close can you position panels to a star without melting or destroying them. This idea is very "stone aged" in comparison to what a T3C should/should represent in the technology that makes a T3C.
I dont understand why any civilization would build a Dyson sphere. Seems like there is an easier way to collect energy.
Idk about that though it regenerates a lot of energy
There is other ways yes make energy effectively at a high voltage currently take more energy. a Dyson sphere naturally exist and would proved unlimited power for the life of the sun. cost of materials would be our only issue this power could be sent to any planet using lasers.
Infrared light can be converted to electricity. Can't this not also explain what they're seeing?
George Davis
Please don't have that far away pic
WHOA!! The truth is out there.
And then what? Everyone will be trying to get their attention and ask for Elvis back. Then they show up to bring us knowledge and understanding but Somebody in back is drunk, thinks it's a concert and keeps yelling FreeBird. The truth is a Mess..
Obviously they create planets
Really... We are type .7 I don't think we have reached a level beyong .3
I trepidatiously clicked on this expecting to be disappointed but instead was pleasantly surprised! Not bad mate. Liked and subbed…👍🏻
Appreciate you sticking with it to see the bigger picture. Glad to have you here! 🚀
A civilization capable of deconstructing entire planets to build up a massive Dyson swarms might be also quite capable of creating energy resources that take far less effort and materials, which need way less maintenance while being more save and reliable. For me the entire Dyson idea looks simply impractical and absurd. It's a weird, childish vision like so many sci-fi ideas from the past, driven by the wet dream that we could bend and break the universe as we like if we just collect as many energy as possible. At the end we might still be humble guests in this universe, not gods with insane powers - and lough at these ideas quite loudly like we do now looking at early sci-fi visions from the 1800s with their gothic steam-punk style.
I see a lot of people who say that it won't work, not enough building materials, etc.
Ask yourself Why would anyone actually Want to build a monstrosity like this? The biggest problem would be population pressure. You don't build it because you want to. You build it because you have to. And along the way you solve a lot of problems with every objection here.
You don't decide one day to just build something like this Mega Structure on a whim from someone like Elon Musk. It has to be desperately needed. For the room that it gives them, and then for the power generation that it gives them. Do you know how much ROOM is there for that civilization to spread out into? It makes all of those super Earth's look like tiny little grains of sand!
Nice video ,
Only Nikola Tesla proved to the world that energy was all around us because humans are also electric conductors and that humanity can easily tap into it without doing some of the things mentioned like putting 1000's of sattelites around a planet...I don't think Tesla was going over board.
He could create lightning and could use its energy to light up a city with bulbs in the dirt !
qua·sar noun. a massive and extremely remote celestial object, emitting exceptionally large amounts of energy, and typically having a starlike image in a telescope. It has been suggested that quasars contain massive black holes and may represent a stage in the evolution of some galaxies
These could also just be clumps of gas
Emitting infrared light
The presenter stops at the Dyson-swarm-level amount of material needed (Mercury). Where does an advanced civilization find the material to build a Dyson sphere?
Because I don’t feel a Dyson Sphere is realistic. Dyson Swarm might be, but I highly doubt whether those are realistic as well.
@@officialinterstellarnews personally I think a Dyson Swarm wouldn't bee too hard to build, Kurzgesagt made a very interesting video about it
The kardashin scale? -_-
Worst commercial break ever
Regardless if they are real or not , we as a species so far has pissed away our potential to g et out this solar system. Fragmented humanity with a target on our back.
In my completely unqualified opinion, these stars are either emitting radiation in a hitherto unknown spectrum, and being unaware of this spectrum we are measuring the wrong wavelengths and are seeing only the radiation we are familiar with, gamma, x-ray, UV etc. Otherwise, the Dyson Swarms could simply be tightly orbiting, temperature resistant clouds of debris, possibly the remnants of asteroids drawn into the dwarf's orbit, and anything other than diamond-like minerals having long since been vaporised. This would explain the excess heat and radiation from a shielded dwarf star.
The answer is at Europa at a glance earth 🌎 its surface looks like a circuit board already.
If humans are 0.7 than in about a 1.7
Narrators who speak correct English grammar hold my attention, get me to like their video and watch more of their videos if I enjoyed the video I watched. I immediately leave a video if someone says "you know" in their video which I absolutely despise. You've done exactly that! If I already knew I wouldn't have started watching in the first place.
I'm subbing because this dude is talking the truth. We don't need clickbait science or channels.
Appreciate you! 🚀🚀
😮 great, now all we have to do is figure out space travel, then figure out how to build planetary space craft and then figure out how to siphon off energy directly from the sun and then start building the swarm, then how to use and transport all of that raw energy,,,y'all best get to workin on it, it's going to take a while,,,
Never have i ever bought or not bought a book because of it´s cover lol.
It’s less of an active choice of not choosing and more that you subconsciously pass over it because the cover wasn’t interesting.
@@officialinterstellarnews That might probably be true for people going window shopping for books, but i usually only buy books recommended to me from someone. 😜
But i get what you´re saying ofc. 👍
Subjective
Why do people want to discover alien life so badly just the thought of it terrifies me don’t forget what happens in every horror science fiction movie we either get organs harvested or be eradicated by aliens i don’t understand why people want to discover things that are terrifying i don’t find aliens fascinating i find them terrifying because im certain Ive seen them in real life and it was not a pleasant experience believe i couldn’t sleep for an entire month
The materials are in the solar system but mining and engineering in space not quite as simple. How to move stuff about is just as difficult. AI and robotics might be useful tools but all this is way beyond my lifetime.
Agreed. Not saying it’s likely, just possible. This level of engineering is beyond our comprehension
@@officialinterstellarnews Arthur C. Clarke; 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.'
@@officialinterstellarnews Don't get me wrong though, as a child iif the 60s I love all things space but progress has been painfully slow so i'm all for dreamers who can make stuff happen.
I do crazy sh all day
I read 60 have been found.😊
57, but only 7 were considered considered to be potential Dyson Spheres/Swarms
Pure Science Fiction 😂
Dyson said he has no clue WTF you are talking about he owns none of those
We already have all that unlimited hot air from our very own Tyson sphere. On the Kardashian scale, he's a Level V.
Exactly. 😜
another drop in the endless sea of fantasy,