Still blows my mind that they successfully landed a space probe on the least hospitable place in the inner solar system; and with 1970s tech. I love those photos of what looks like a yellow tinted Earth-like rocky landscape.
I know it’s a given, but it’ll always be wild to me that we have all this old very expensive technology just orbiting somewhere in space or trashed on other planets. Really leaving our mark lol
The USSR was obsessed not with Venus, but with space. Space travel, scientific breakthroughs, other planets, first contact. This ideology permeated the entire Soviet society. Pioneer ascent.
@@Flying_Lexusexactly. Russian people are very dumb and can be convinced that they'll be flying in space before half of them even have indoor plumbing 😅
In the 1950s it was written in the books of Knowledge that the surface of venus was possibly a tropical jungle. I can remember reading this as I was just a child at the time.
@@greggieboy393 That was scifi fantasy strories, scientists told a different story. The same today and even worse, people believe all kind of garbage they see on telly.
In the german Scifi/Spy book series "Zur besonderen Verwendung" (ZbV) the author played with that. They send troops to Venus, expecting swamps and jungle, but encounter sandstorms and a poisonous atmosphere. The reason? The Venusians fiddled with our probes, so they send fake data back to Earth. 😮
The U.S. decided it was not possible to keep a lander cool enough to work on venus. The Russian lander got around this with a very simple system. They had radiator devices that were filled with excess rocket fuel. The devices were deployed enroute to super cool the fuel from the coldness of space. The fuel was pumped through the lander to cool it upon landing.
@@Guccifer808 well we can go further with this logic and point out that Russian republic was in fact called Russian Federative Republic and contained 16 national repulbic, thus Russia was arguably only one out of ~31 republics, thus Russian share of the project is what, three percent? :) Moreover, there was no Russian republic within Russian Federation, these 16 national republics were all non-Russian. The federation was also callsed Rossiyskaya, not Russkaya, thus as there was no Russian state entity participating in the project we can argue that it's a project first and foremost of some nations of USSR, and Russians were not included here on state level.
When you’re treating your citizens like that and focus your budget on this, it’s an obsession - for the morons replying to me, I’m talking about the Soviet Union, not the US, because that’s what the video is about.
I see what you did there. And yes, technically, anything pertaining to Venus and Fridays receives the "venereal" adjective, if we're to apply Classical Latin nomenclature
@@JosePineda-cy6om so I used to work on Mars, and the imaginary mean seal level is called "The Aeroid" (from MOLA), while here on Earth we call it "The Geoid" (see: EGM96). For this vid, I suppose it's the Veneroid (which sounds burning hot and itchy..) pretty sure Magellan nabbed it.
It's not uncommon for households in the former Soviet Union or Eastern Bloc to still have working machines or household appliances from the Soviet era that are in working condition. In Eastern Europe, we have the saying, “built like a Soviet tank” to refer to these almost indestructible pieces of engineering.
"It's not uncommon for households in the former Soviet Union or Eastern Bloc to still have working machines or household appliances from the Soviet era that are in working condition." The same is true in the US in Europe. Now appliances in the US and Europe are made in China.
You didn't show the best image from the Venera-14 mission, it's a color image that actually shows the Venusian horizon, it's honestly an incredible sight, even though it's extremely flat and barren, the fact that it's the only clear image taken on Venus is incredible in and of itself. I'd highly recommend anyone that hasn't seen it to look it up, as it's likely the best we're going to get for a very long time. Fantastic video otherwise though, I've been fascinated by the various missions to Venus for a long time now and you summarized it very well.
@@dyyylllaannn It's stitched together from all the images that were sent back, basically the same method used by the Mars rovers to send back large images like panoramas. I'd post the actual image but RUclips loves randomly deleting comments these days.
You have to hand it to the soviet scientists, they didn't give up even when the Intel they had meant that their probe would melt under the brutal conditions of Venus.
Cheap shot and one that stinks of sour grapes; particularly as the US hasn't manged to put a man back on the moon for over 50 years now and shows no real prospect of managing to do so any time soon. The point is that the Russians went for it and learned from each mistake and improved their design in one of the most testing and hostile environments that I can imagine.
The reason for this is that the moment has passed. There’s no pissing match about who can reach the moon first with heavy undertones of demonstrating ICBM tech; there is no scientific reason to land a man on the moon, you can do a hundred robotic missions for the same cost. In the 60’s it had to be manned; you could hardly do anything with a rover let alone land the thing safely. The only thing that’s left is 1960’s nostalgia and ”it’s kind of cool’. That’s why it restarts and stops before achieving anything over and over. A politician decides to play on 1960’s nostalgia and thinks of the moon landing as this great unifying moment. NASA gets to halfheartedly play with some tech and in the end everyone knows it is stupid and expensive. Manned missions to the moon are just stupid and it just gets more stupid over time.
@@Eris123451 It appears that you haven't heard of the *Artemis* program. NASA isn't just going back, they plan to camp there! ROFLMAO! *Pam* Tom's wife
Oh I've heard of it alright but only If you believe the adverting ? There 's great bit in, "Closing Time, " Josef Heller's brilliant sequel to Catch Twenty Two where Yossarian is making a living good drawing pictures of imaginary fighter planes for congress committees to fund. The actual planes themselves don't exist and are never going to but the companies contracting for them are making billions anyway, the American manned space program seems to me to be much same sort of thing. I'm increasingly skeptical about whether an America now in decline still has will, competence and expertise to put men back on the moon anyway ? We shall see ?
Yeahp.. but no only Apple them @RILEYLEIFSON_UTAH2 .. Microsoft .. Google .. they are all constantly beta testing their garbage in our devices.. only to patch it up latter with more beta testing trash... ... and of course always forcing you into thing.. even if the new "features" are no good for you and screw up your workings flow.. you have no choice.. ... look Win11 with the encryption bullshit.. you are a gamer.. you have a gaming rig.. is for games.. you don't need encryption anything... and they are going to force you in it anyway... wasting your CPU power.. wasting your Memory.. wasting your HDD space... and making you believe that you need a better new PC...
I actually though it was several layers of stupid. First level of stupid: if Apple were to build an iPhone "to be sent to space", they'd build it differently than "to be quickly replaced by stupid American consumers". Second level of stupid: if you actually still are dumb enough to send a regular iPhone into space... why would go as far as send it updates? And so on... Yeah, I get it's a joke. It's a multi-layers stupidly joke. It's never, at any moment, either "true" or funny (although this is relative. e.g. Calling Americans stupid is funny to me).
Столько слов про политику ,но ни слова про институт и коллектив, ведущий тогда программу освоения венеры. Разработкой занималось ОКБ им. С.А. Лавочкина, которое в то время возглавлял Георгий Николаевич Бабакин.Само предприятие, научный задел и сами аппараты сохранились, можно продолжить их исследования. Но их не запустят пока не дооснастят приборами для получения новых данных, а не повторения старых.
My brother from the other good side, don't expect these people who are taught a lot of nonsense and BS about the USSR by their gov or controlled media to know about the institute or the team leading the program for the exploration of Venus. Thank you for the info. 👏🤙🤝
@@hammerr потому что для любой великой топовой державы,какой СССР и являлся, состоявшей во всяческих международных организациях по исследованию окружающей среды было бы весьма стыдно не возглавить один из актуальных проектов на повестке, а взявшись не выполнить. И всё с целью доказать своё первенство и прогрессивность. У СССР был опыт постройки глубоководных аппаратов, способных выдержать давление в 30 и более атмосфер, так почему не построить на его основе исследовательский аппарат и под это провести исследование военных технологий с освоением военных бюджетов. Все так в мире делают,но мало кто даёт ощутимый практический результат.
Why all the negative undertones for the Russians lander and not the US Lander. These guys were in space 3 times before the US set foot in space. Their determination and ingenuity and stubbornness is something we should all aspire to
Unfortunately Russia often focuses its drive and determination towards unproductive if not self-destructive pursuits. This shows what they can do if they put effort towards productive pursuits and the positive results of it. Russia has a lot of potential as a society, They just choose not to realize it in the proper way.
@@cane6074 You write: "Russia has great potential as a society, they just prefer not to realize it properly." I agree with you, but there is one strange feature in this country - people here always follow the leader (the king, the general secretary, etc.). And if the king turns out to be wise, everything turns out fine, and if an evil dictator, then the country rolls into a pit. This is a country of extremes, and this is its trouble and curse.
When i was working as a mechanic, one of my customers was an engineer who had done lots of development on the computers they put in cars. Its a very tough environment for a computer, extremes of hot and cold, corrosive chemicals, vibration etc. So they use carbide chips if my memory is working, instead of silicon chips, like in your desktop. They are much tougher than silicon chips, and deal with extreme heat better, which is key for being able to "pot" them in a lump of epoxy resin, to keep bad chemicals and vibrations away. Its really hard to seal up a computer with a big cooling fan vent. The russians had to use carbide chips for their venus probes, and i remember our customer, the engineer, was blown away by how short the lifespan was for a computer on venus, minutes or hours. Cant remember. This is with cutting edge version and big old budget version of car computer technology that lasts decades in a car.
Not knocking you bro, there are indeed extremes inside a car, I used to worry about my tapes iin the deck! For the engine computer, I was kinda disappointed the other day, I just pulled a 2012 Jetta engine computer, actually probably just the BCM, still kinda critical, located a little left and under the steering wheel... did so because it wouldn't start, and headlights and tail lights were on and wouldn't turn off... this was after a heavy rain, and after disconnecting the 3 big connectors, and some wiggle, the computer module was removed... dripping water! I so hoped that the board was conformal coated, but popping open the case revealed a rather plain 2 sided mainboard with regular silicon chips, no conformal coat, no gaskets on the case, or the 3 connectors. From the look of that board, it'd had dust and water incursion more than once, but now there were some corroded traces. After a cleanup and dry out, I was stoked that the car was mostly back to normal.
@@k0nanick I've taken apart a few ECUs and modules and all of them were like that. For their price you'd expect something revolutionary, but really they look like they were pulled from an old stereo or something.
@@dk-bw4gk I think a lot of the price is simply because it's a "rare" part, they probably don't cost much to make, but it's the software inside and the significance of that part that inflates the price, an ECU for a honda fit is over 1k, it's probably only a $300 part to make but they aren't making them in the same quantity that they're making ball joints or tie rods.
The early Venera probes may have been dead on arrival but just arriving alone is a remarkable achievement. Like the Indian moon shot, definitely not a failure.
Imagine if US and USSR had thrown their differences aside and worked together for science and space exploration they wouldn't have done many good discovery.
Those 2 whites don't like each other. Arabs are caucasian as well and are not liked. BOTH were neanderthals in caves fighting until the climate change.
That's like saying a band with a single hit tune is the best of all time. Incredible success, of course, but of very limited duration and impact. The Soviets don't get their due credit, but "greatest"? No.
@DavidWilliams-ig5ec your analogy is really really bad. Landing on Venus is ultra hard core. If you want to stick to your band analogies, landing on Venus using the technology of that time is as if a band who only uses broken instruments that can only play a few notes, played by musicians who're missing a few fingers, manages to compose a hit even though their composer's deaf and their main singer cannot sing more than an octave - and somehow they still managed to get two hit songs. I've yet to see SpaceX or NASA send successfully a lander to a place where temperatures melt lead, with sulfuric acid rains and 1km deep pressures. Oh, and using only tech from 40 years ago, please. THAT'S HARDCORE. The probes didn't last more than 1 hour each? Well duh, of course.
@@JosePineda-cy6om "I've yet to see SpaceX or NASA send successfully a lander to a place where temperatures melt lead, with sulfuric acid rains and 1km deep pressures." Yes, you're right, because they know it's a pointless folly. Sorry the CCCP overlords didn't get the message based on their repeated failures. But I guess that kind of delusional thinking is why their country also ceased to exist.
@@JosePineda-cy6omLanding on Venus is the fairly 'easy' part, getting stuff to work there is the real challenge. Its kind of opposite of Mars in that way
14:47 This is actually incorrect. Venera 14 was not the last probe to land on Venus, Vega 1 and Vega 2 missions both had not only balloon probes but landers as well. These balloons and landers were deployed during a flyby of Venus before the main spacecrafts departed for the Halley's comet. Both landers looked similar to the last Venera probes, they were successful and landed on Venus on June 11th and 15th 1985 respectively, more than three years after Venera 14.
@@mrfrozen2705 It seems you didn't pay enough attention. In 14:45 he clearly says Venera 14 was the last time man made objects reached the surface of Venus and the he mentions "a whole other story" to be about "some cool stuff with balloons" after Venera 14.
They said they recorded wind blowing. I ended up looking up Venus's atmospheric density....which is 92 bar, or about 92 times denser than sea level on earth. That's absolutely nuts. The force generated by even a moderate wind would be off the chain.
@@vinportobg kind of? they weren't interested in efficiency that would lead to a reduction in the required workforce, which would affect their employment and development model, most of their improvements came to improvements in the materials themselves. different tech tree to the Americans, because of the resources at hand, and you have to remember that in less than one lifetime the majority of the people went from near middle ages to superpower levels of development.
@@vinportobg Money was a driving factor of society, of course. It wouldn't buy you a good life in the S.U., but it would still be easier. That's why the smartest people avoided engineering like a plague and stuck into either trades, military or pure science where the salary was good. This, and inability to prop the oil price further up eventually made the soviet economy unable to compete.
Other probes actually have landed on the surface of Venus since Venera. Each of those balloon missions, Vega 1 and Vega 2, were also packaged alongside a flyby probe that would go on to visit Halley's Comet and a lander. Vega 1's lander instruments activated early, but both landers survived their descents. The Pioneer Venus Multiprobe also unintentionally landed an atmospheric probe, the Day probe, on the surface of Venus; this remains NASA's only successful landing on Venus.
The trippiest thing about the density of the atmosphere is that it increases gradually. If you were to descend towards the surface of Venus, you'd transition from flying through air to swimming through water without even noticing it.
@@rasta77-x7o even if you explain the sun to me you do not know how it got there or how it works. requiring an answer makes you autistic. being unable to see the magic in the world. and trying to box everything in. this thinking is evil. hope you find happiness =) namaste.
@@rasta77-x7o Yeah, I thought the video took an odd angle on that one. Layered atmospheric gases and eventually solids or liquids in increasing density is exactly how every gravity well works. That's not mind blowing, it's really basic physical science.
I'm still in team venus cloud city before mars colony. Pros: 1. It's a fucking cloud city 2. It's warm 3. No Toxic dust Con: 1. Acid clouds 2. you can fall down 3. A bit windy
Mars is a bitch to land in, but at least there's solid ground. However the ultra fine toxic dust and radiation doesn't help. Venus meanwhile would literally require said cloud city to be delivered there and for obvious reasons would not allow for direct ground sample extraction and exploration by astronauts
It didn't stop Lando Carlrissian... Actually it's not quite the same. Bespin is a gas giant, more like Jupiter than Venus. And the city floated in a breathable layer.
@@Nerdiness1985 On the surface yes, but at a certain altitude the pressure is about the same as earth's surface and the temperature falls to about 35 C, an average day in a hot place on earth. There's also plenty of radiation protection from the atmosphere above. We still can't breathe the atmosphere, but with just an oxygen supply and mask we could walk freely outside in our floating habitat. The acid rain would be a hazard. We'd need to make the habitat of anti-corrosion material and wear protective clothing outdoors, or even just carry a acid resistant umbrella. If the habitat sprang a leak we would not have to worry about explosive decompression and everybody suddenly dying, like you would on Mars or the moon. Repairing it would be a non-urgent job, like fixing a leaking roof on earth. We would also have to be very careful that our habitat, that is essentially a large aircraft, maintains its altitude because if it flew too low its inhabitants would burn up or get crushed.
@benthejrporter My vote is for Buckminster Fuller's Cloud Nine floating tensegrity sphere. Just needs to be a couple miles wide. Maybe add a mixture of Helium and Hydrogen ballonettes for buoyancy and fuel storage. Solar photovoltaic on the surface to power systems, and electrolysis of atmospheric water vapor to Oxygen and Hydrogen. The whole sphere would collect resources from the atmosphere, and process them for humans to use when they arrive. Carbon dioxide can produce raw carbon for a variety of purposes, including graphene for the production of more spheres.
I'm not sure why you thought venera had film cameras. It would have been ridiculous to somehow automate a film camera, processing, and then scanning system at that time, in a venusian probe with a lifespan of 53 minutes. It used the same kind of cameras we'd always used in space, electronic TV cameras. Not digital cameras mind you. Now some of NASAs missions did use film cameras for rocket stage footage, and it was then manually recovered, but electronic imaging using things like cathodes tubes existed back then. It's how we were able to live broadcast the moon walk.
What ? Lol lol yep the soviets were just misunderstood, they were all about science and expanding the horizons of its subjugated population lol lol lol
@@chrisminshall938 contrary to popular belief, the soviet people were mostly happy with their government. The 1991 referendum left clear that 77% of the soviet population wanted the USSR to keep existing
@@intifadayuri lol lol are you for real ? Tell me who exactly surveyed the russian people ? Lol lol certainly it wasnt the govt that ran Gulag's and political and ethnic prisons lol lol lol lol
I like the idea that a group of Soviet engineers simply got obsessed with Venus and their political superiors just let them have at it. Like the "I just wanted to see what happens" meme! Also, if you are taking suggestions, I find the idea of a clockwork probe instead of an electronic one really fascinating and you seem like just the guy to do a video on it. Here's to hoping! Cheers!
There is no denying that Russia / USSR once produced world class engineers and scientists. They were held back by budgets and availability of quality materials, but still managed some world class achievements like this one. The Venera Probes seem excellently designed and the fact they even managed to succeed with 1970/1980s technology is frankly incredible.
Soviet stuff in Venus was a peak in the history of space exploration. Calling it "obsession" is cringe and antiscientific. It is like talking about Galileo and his "obsession" about staring through his telescope thing he made.
not cringe at all. what is cringe is your opinion lol. if there were something to be found or some major thing that could have been done on venus, fine, but there wasn't. they kept pushing for no reason. hence, obsession.
because of mismanagement, micromanagement, politics, and corruption. The Politburo and Congress between them, over the 1980s, were barely distinguishable.
Capitalism destroyed space exploration. If there's no short-term profit, it won't get done. The only goals now are for spy satellites, trash kulture TV to any part of the world, and eventually we'll have advertising in space via reflective particle fields that will reflect ground-based color lasers painting a pic on them.
Those old Soviet engineers were crazy good! Similar to the German scientists, during the WW2. Just shows you, it doesn't matter were you are politically. Talent is talent.
@@armaniwebb4467 Five rovers and a drone on Mars, probes to every planet, some minor planets, HST, JWST, and the Apollo missions. 5 probes exiting the Solar System.
Super video! Thank you very much. The only thing that could have been said is that Venus, unlike Mars, is about the same size as the Earth and the orbit of Venus is easier to reach than that of Mars. The SF novel "Planet of Death" by the famous Stanislaw Lem from 1951 had a great influence in the Soviet Union. In it, cosmonauts (as astronauts are called there) discover the remains of a civilization that had wiped itself out with nuclear weapons. The film adaptation called "The Silent Star" 1960 was very popular. And so elaborately made that film material was bought by Hollywood producers, who even used it for two cinema films. In any case, there was the idea that Venus, which is in many ways more Earth-like than Mars, was much more likely to have life like our planet. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia article about the massive change in the view of Venus due to the Soviet Venus missions has disappeared. It clearly showed how much people believed in life there before and no longer afterwards. Now there is a Venus in fiction, but unfortunately the many SF novels in the Eastern Bloc (USSR and the socialist countrys around) hardly feature in it. I noticed the whole thing because I've always been a Venus fan and an SF reader. And there was a discussion a while ago when an old climate scientist said that we are in danger of becoming like Venus. Only to say that, we'd have to know a lot more about Venus and what we know doesn't scientifically allow such a statement. Incidentally, Fraiser Cain from Universe today interviewed one of the leading Venus researchers a year ago. The video is called: "I'm obsessed with Venus now". Super Interview! The balloons of the Soviets in the Venus atmosphere are a super cool topic. It would certainly be a great topic for a video. They were the first flying machines on another planet. Long before the super helicopter drone flew on Mars. Space race, you know ?😊 Thanks for your great videos. I always enjoy watching them! 😊
I mean in fairness, they should be. It's often ignored due to how hostile the surface and environment are but Venus is one of the more fascinating planets in the solar system.
@@Awesomes007 Ironic you say that, because overthrowing a monarchy, eliminating economic social classes and creating one of the best welfare and pension systems in history isn't innovation to you? Stalinism, gulags and Ukrainian famine aside, the beginning and the latter half of the USSR wasn't as messed up as you think it was.
The one good thing about the Cold War is that it forced both sides to constantly outdo eachother with technological and scientific inventions, innovations, and understandings. We wouldnt have lifted a finger for the Space Race if the Soviets hadnt attempted to do it first.
Our planet is literally a paradise that's immeasurable in how rare and important it is to all of us. Recycle people. Take care of our wonderful planet. The next time you see a little trash or something pick it up and dispose of it properly, We have to change the way people think and live to make sure Earth remains the paradise it was before human beings.
Recycling as a whole is just a corpo scam. I've been inside a recycling plant, not a whole lot gets recycled. We can recycle metal effectively and that is about it.
Our technology today isn't built to last because we live in (the illusion of) abundance of ressources. There's big money in selling things to people that break all the times like iPhones, that's why you couldn't sent one to space. And then selling them a new one two years later. The shortage of materials like it occured in the eastern side of the iron curtain produced an amazing spirit of craftmanship, so many people learnt to build something from almost nothing and building things to last because you couldn't just order something new and have it delivered a week later, you often had to wait for years for replacement parts of machinery and things like that. That's how this philosophy of sturdy building emerged. I was born in the GDR, haven't personally experienced much of it but the aftermath and the spirit of the people that influenced me still rings through till today. Now I'm an engineer and I am amazed of what my parents and grandparents generation used to accomplish with the little means they had in all branches of life. I try to keep that spirit alive and I believe this is what the whole world needs to be doing but even better with the modern means of production we have today: build all sorts of things that are tough, modular, as easily repairable as possible and recycleable. Not the cheap throwaway junk we have today in consumer electronics, tools etc.
@@tjls123 then read again what exactly I wrote, the last words matter: abundance of RESSOURCES. Not of products. We act like we had unlimited ressources and pump out as cheaply as possible made stuff that breaks all the time. That's what I said. Read the rest and learn something about a time gone by or don't, I don't care, that's your decision. But maybe don't judge so loudly if something you don't even bother reading is "shit" that doesn't interest you... obviously it did enough to write a comment about it. ;-P
@@tjls123ehm you need to get reading skills, He said we don’t live in abundance to resources, which is correct, we use more earths then their is, the resources are not infinite and our wasteful society burns trough it fast. Abundance of things as you probably misread it, is not the same as resources.
Thank you for that. Thank you for telling us all about the sounds of Venus and getting us all excited and wanting to hear them and not actually including those sounds. thank you for that.
You need a fixed camera in the cab above your head (showing speed/date/road) a 360 cam and a chest cam with mic's, from now on make sure all calls to highways from your phone are recorded and when you ring up say you're recording the call as part of your company policy etc
its one of the greatest deceptions the freemasons ever pulled off for sure. Look how many brainless people just follow the other, without critical thinking or research. Once you crack the code, you will realize how everything turned from smart to retarded, because everything is literall ass backwards. The whole space thing is a lie. They were using gleasons earth maps in ww2, earth isnt a marble......
Watched a video a few weeks ago about building inhabited airships for the upper atmosphere of Venus. Warmer temperatures, an actual atmosphere, and less radiation than would be on Mars. Pretty interesting video.
Informative video,thanks for posting,was disappointed when you mentioned the microphone heard "spooky" noises but you failed to put the sound up which would have been very interesting to listen too.
=> The balloons of the Soviets in the Venus atmosphere are a super cool topic. It would certainly be a great topic for a video. They were the first flying devices on another planet. Long before the super helicopter drone flew on Mars. Space race, you know ?😊 Thanks for your great videos. I always enjoy watching them! 😊 (Just to be on the safe side this extra also. Because I also edited the other comment and don't know if you only get the first version as a content creator.)
@@FactBits361 "World power" that cannot even get a grip on its little puppet Israhell or stop half a million people from dying of poverty within its own borders, how hilarious is that?
We should put up a huge solar shade in a lagrange point around venus and watch it cool down. We would learn a lot about terraforming and we could control how much sunlight venus gets so we could make it the perfect temperature.
till you realize nobody ever went to space because it impossible.... funny how from the 60s till now, no more moon missions. You know what happened? People know where its filmed, and they dont want to get caught. Mars was filmed on DEVON ISLAND. Put that in google, you will literally see "astronauts in gear IN CANADA"....
It's not the sun that's heating Venus (well, it is, but not much more than Earth), it's the pressure that creates the heat. The dark side is just as hot as the sunny side, and a day (sunrise to sunset) is 117 days long. It's like how your bike pump gets hot when using it.
@@dk-bw4gk It is the sun. The difference to earth is that it keeps the heat trapped. If you would remove all sun light from venus it would take a few centuries for the atmosphere to get thinner and condense in the end it would look like a ln ice moon covered with dry ice.
Mariner 2 became the first successful mission to another planet when it flew by Venus on December 14, 1962. The spacecraft made a number of discoveries about the planet and marked another first by measuring the solar wind, a constant stream of charged particles flying outward from the sun. Five years later, Mariner 5 followed up on Mariner 2's study of Venus with a closer look at the planet's atmosphere.
Venus is just...terrifying for some reason. At least to me. It's a world that seems designed to destroy anything that tries to land on it. Why would such a place exist where nothing could live? Even on Mars or in space life could survive with space suits. But not Venus. The fact such a dangerous place could just randomly exist is so unsettling...
Venus is not the only inhospitable place. Everywhere is inhospitable. Our bodies are designed to live 🙏 n planet Earth. Period. There is actually nowhere else for us to live if we destroy our planet. People are so naive when they think we can just move somewhere else, even if it is terraformed. We need the moon and the gravitational force,oxygen levels and many more complex forces that we aren't always aware of to be able to live and reproduce normally and thrive.
@@magicaltour1 Since watching this video, I've seen videos on how our Solar System will change over the next billion years. Even if humanity gets its act together and stops polluting, Earth and every other planet will eventually be destroyed by the expanding sun. So that's also...fun...to think about.
Absolutely right. But how were they able to not only take digital pictures but also transmit them back to earth that to in the 60s! It's just mind-boggling.
The reason Venus has a high surface temperature is because it has 92% more atmospheric pressure from earth Not from some runaway greenhouse gas, it’s physics. Mars has nearly 100% c02 atmosphere and they have no “runaway greenhouse gas effect” Mars has a minimum atmospheric pressure leading to low temps.
Modern computers aren’t made to last anymore, because companies have shifted from designing computers for business and institutions to that of regular consumer demand. This shift occurred sometime in the late 80’s with the advent of the PC computers. Also, with the increase in software storage capacity came the lazy solution model. It used to be that when you design a computer you made sure every single part was designed perfectly because otherwise your software could not run correctly, but with increased computer software capacity many modern computers are simply designed to rely on self correcting software tools in cases where hardware is faulty. These two factors have contributed to a model of computer design the last 30 years which is incredibly unreliable compared to its predecessors. Which inversely were also much simpler designs that used far more logic to solve their unique problems. To solve this dilemma its clear that a revolution in the world of atoms is required. New hardware and material designs have to be produced in the next couple decades that push the boundaries of reliable design.
Thirty years ago, 40MB was the standard hard disk size. A disk would typically have a life of two years. Daily or for the lazy weekly backups were essential.
no error correction has become necessary since chip makers are pushing against the limits of what is possible without quantum schenanigans turning your data into sphaggety
Old soviet joke. Soviets learn that Americans landed on the moon. Nikita Khruschev is furious! He demands his scientists prepare a mission with the goal to land on the Sun! Scientists: but our probe and our astronauts will burn! Nikita: we're not stupid, we will go at night
If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place.
A man from my hometown, Gilroy Chow (Chinese American) was a mathematician on the Apollo 11 mission. He’s brilliant. He laughs at the conspiracy theories. It was his job. He was in the NASA office watching in real time!
Now that was something I had never thought about before and it is very refreshing too find new content on the RUclips that is fast losing its appeal because of demonized videos and videos that are not exciting enough for people like me or way too many people just doing the same boring stuff that was once exciting when it was new.
its all fiction.... browse devon island if you wanna see astronauts "playing space" in canada, pretending to be on mars. They simply dont want to tell you what they do with the money, so they give you this bullshit, and you believe it. Pretty simple
I am in absolute awe of these missions. Soviet era ingenuity and exploratory zeal is woefully underreported. I don’t get how people can be flippant and dismissive when watching this. Love these missions. Wish others had more balls in theirs.
About the Venera space program, i've just got this quote in my head: "- You don't stop until you find an answer. Because that is who you are... - A lunatic then... - Scientist" (HBO Chernobyl series)
Who can ever forget the Six Million Dollar Man episode "Death Probe". Steve must disable a Soviet probe that returns from Venus, lands in the US and goes on a rampage.
Fun fact, the rocket launch at 1:07 while the narrator talks about Russia; that rocket was actually launched by Germany around 1940, give or take a few years.
Climate scientists base their concerns over climate change on measurements from Venus. That the conditions which created Venus are not remotely similar to Earth does not seem to phase their quasi-religious belief in that model. "Sure, this apple is close enough to a banana for us to draw exact comparisons."
It was more a case of general Soviet Neuroses than anything Venus specific. The guy in power demanded it so the space program kept trying until they brute forced success in a futile attempt to avoid the Gulag. Of course being the Soviets success wasn't garneted protection and succeeding too well could also be a gulag sentence.
@@sebking7902 all countries in different time periods had their versions of political camps or prisons. The original notion was that the Soviet scientific achievements are the mere result of political oppression. Which is a nonsense. You comment doesn't prove anything of that sort. It's a good example of judgemental cynicism. "Whatever they achieved and gave to the world - it's all the product of oppression and, therefore, valueless". Sure. All British culture is based on colonial oppression. All things done by British are shit, because they did that while squeezing resources from those who were unable to defend themselves. Is this your version of history?
@@TheFaveteLinguis I lost the context of the original comment, apologies. I wasn’t trying to belittle Soviet achievements, just pointing out that GULAG was replaced with something which was not much different, in case someone were to misinterpret your comment as the entire system being abandoned. A lot of Westerners don’t even know that GULAG is an acronym.
Damn! To get some pictures a soil sample and a sound bite from a place where all descriptions make it sound like hell is pretty fkn impressive. Over 900 degrees and 90x the pressure??? WTF?
@@truestory2990 great question …. Ask “why”…. Then move to the country, get married and have lots of children. Watch Owen Benjamin …. There !…. You’re welcome
I feel like interest in space from the general public doesn't exist anymore. I can't be the only one who feels that way. It's quite sad. In those days, there was such an excitement for space exploration from all walks of life. Nowadays, bs politics, sex, drugs, and money are only at the forefront of the general public's mind, and we're all locked in to the psychosis of the internet and social media. Didn't mean to be pessimistic at the end here, but in this day in age, there's not too many people who really get it.....
That video was annoying to belittle any soviet or Russian achievement... so cringe and unrespectful of those scientists, who no matter which side they were, did accomplish fantastic things... at least more than editing and pasting around video cuts from the darkness of a bedroom...
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Still blows my mind that they successfully landed a space probe on the least hospitable place in the inner solar system; and with 1970s tech. I love those photos of what looks like a yellow tinted Earth-like rocky landscape.
And NASA says we don't have the tech to "go back" to the moon. It's all fake and gray
I know it’s a given, but it’ll always be wild to me that we have all this old very expensive technology just orbiting somewhere in space or trashed on other planets. Really leaving our mark lol
In soviet Russia, Venus probe lands YOU
Van Gogh would’ve loved painting the yellow hues of the Venusian landscape.
@@aricjenkins885the man definitely had a way with his yellows
One of the greatest Space projects ever. Venus is amazing, and so was the Soviet passion for space exploration.
Jag önskar att vårt land var detsamma.
It was driven by politics....way more than the west's space endeavors. Don't romanticize it.
@@mylan4742 Yes, based
@@mylan4742 Typical american. No wonder why the whole world laughs at you.
@@mylan4742Bro suffering from red scare propaganda from the previous century.
The USSR was obsessed not with Venus, but with space.
Space travel, scientific breakthroughs, other planets, first contact.
This ideology permeated the entire Soviet society.
Pioneer ascent.
Yeah, in the 80's in the USSR people actually believed that we would be flying into space on demand in just a few decades.
its not just ussr america does too but its not a bad thing to be obsessed with science as a nation.
@@josephbailey1293 100%
@@Flying_Lexusexactly. Russian people are very dumb and can be convinced that they'll be flying in space before half of them even have indoor plumbing 😅
And why did they stop?
They probably just told us its too hot, meanwhile they have a whole planet to themselves
Like the secret bathroom on 'Park And Recreation'.
Forreal 😂😂😂
lol yeah i was thinking the same
"Too hot? Comrade, have you been to Siberia during winter?"
lol
"Venera 13 carried a microphone. So we can listen to the sounds of Venus..."
Me: 👂
"Venera 14..."
The only quirk in this very informative video. Of course the sound recording is up on RUclips elsewhere.
Coverup. It heard the Protomolecule.
It picked up a trace of the Astronomicon... @@trninfan
@@NuntiusLegis Not so, just a recording of Venera 14 is out there, Venera 13 is nowhere to be found. Your point still stands.
@@trninfan It is building the Ring :P
In the 1950s it was written in the books of Knowledge that the surface of venus was possibly a tropical jungle. I can remember reading this as I was just a child at the time.
@@greggieboy393 That was scifi fantasy strories, scientists told a different story. The same today and even worse, people believe all kind of garbage they see on telly.
My father told me the same when i was a kid
In the german Scifi/Spy book series "Zur besonderen Verwendung" (ZbV) the author played with that. They send troops to Venus, expecting swamps and jungle, but encounter sandstorms and a poisonous atmosphere. The reason? The Venusians fiddled with our probes, so they send fake data back to Earth. 😮
The U.S. decided it was not possible to keep a lander cool enough to work on venus. The Russian lander got around this with a very simple system. They had radiator devices that were filled with excess rocket fuel. The devices were deployed enroute to super cool the fuel from the coldness of space. The fuel was pumped through the lander to cool it upon landing.
And it still only barely lasted (with respect)
@@P.A.C.E.automotive Not possible < Possible
It's USSR (15 countries/republics), not Russian(1 country/republic) lander.
@@Guccifer808 well we can go further with this logic and point out that Russian republic was in fact called Russian Federative Republic and contained 16 national repulbic, thus Russia was arguably only one out of ~31 republics, thus Russian share of the project is what, three percent? :)
Moreover, there was no Russian republic within Russian Federation, these 16 national republics were all non-Russian. The federation was also callsed Rossiyskaya, not Russkaya, thus as there was no Russian state entity participating in the project we can argue that it's a project first and foremost of some nations of USSR, and Russians were not included here on state level.
Interesting 🤔👍
It is not obsession but perseverance.
Yes, and the engineering science steadily IMPROVED over the daunting course of their campaign.
its fraud no one has ever been to space
It's propaganda. The moon landings were faked 100%.
How about it is obsession with perseverance?
When you’re treating your citizens like that and focus your budget on this, it’s an obsession - for the morons replying to me, I’m talking about the Soviet Union, not the US, because that’s what the video is about.
America: You destroyed millions to billions dollars worth of spacecraft.
The USSR: I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN.
Americans and their money, haha
More like millions to billions of rubles
So around 12 Canadian dollars
@@knightofficer more like Canadian Rubles 😅
we're like 73 cents to a US dollar rn
"Smash this thing into Moon"
"Oh yes we will study the reverberations"
"just smash into Moon to show we can hurt even the Moon"
"Да, сэр"
@@knightofficer If it's so cheap, why didn't Canada build the Omega station as a Mass Effect? Is it fun to be the best buffoon in school?
The Soviet Venera probes were amazing.
Venerial probes?
I see what you did there. And yes, technically, anything pertaining to Venus and Fridays receives the "venereal" adjective, if we're to apply Classical Latin nomenclature
@@hamster2845 yes considering the time frame. The luner probes were actually pretty good too but the Venus series were something else.
@@hamster2845 They went to Uranus.
@@JosePineda-cy6om so I used to work on Mars, and the imaginary mean seal level is called "The Aeroid" (from MOLA), while here on Earth we call it "The Geoid" (see: EGM96). For this vid, I suppose it's the Veneroid (which sounds burning hot and itchy..) pretty sure Magellan nabbed it.
It's not uncommon for households in the former Soviet Union or Eastern Bloc to still have working machines or household appliances from the Soviet era that are in working condition. In Eastern Europe, we have the saying, “built like a Soviet tank” to refer to these almost indestructible pieces of engineering.
Hopefully not a T-72
Hey now, there’s a special place for tanks that that transform into frisbees.
Ah yes, weapons. The only things that communism produced that actually work and leftists hate them.
The T-80 was a marvel for its time, one of the best tanks of all time in my opinion
"It's not uncommon for households in the former Soviet Union or Eastern Bloc to still have working machines or household appliances from the Soviet era that are in working condition."
The same is true in the US in Europe. Now appliances in the US and Europe are made in China.
Just to be clear, you kept showing the Berlin wall in reference to the USSR falling but the wall fell in 1989 while the USSR fell in 1991
The Collapse of USSR was sealed by then
You didn't show the best image from the Venera-14 mission, it's a color image that actually shows the Venusian horizon, it's honestly an incredible sight, even though it's extremely flat and barren, the fact that it's the only clear image taken on Venus is incredible in and of itself. I'd highly recommend anyone that hasn't seen it to look it up, as it's likely the best we're going to get for a very long time.
Fantastic video otherwise though, I've been fascinated by the various missions to Venus for a long time now and you summarized it very well.
wasn't that a rendering
@@dyyylllaannn all images you are viewing are renders. the photos were created using code that was sent back
Venusian*
@@deanmartin2332 The only thing fake here is your education.
@@dyyylllaannn It's stitched together from all the images that were sent back, basically the same method used by the Mars rovers to send back large images like panoramas. I'd post the actual image but RUclips loves randomly deleting comments these days.
You have to hand it to the soviet scientists, they didn't give up even when the Intel they had meant that their probe would melt under the brutal conditions of Venus.
They didn't give up after like 20 probes blew up before even leaving earth.
Cheap shot and one that stinks of sour grapes; particularly as the US hasn't manged to put a man back on the moon for over 50 years now and shows no real prospect of managing to do so any time soon.
The point is that the Russians went for it and learned from each mistake and improved their design in one of the most testing and hostile environments that I can imagine.
The reason for this is that the moment has passed. There’s no pissing match about who can reach the moon first with heavy undertones of demonstrating ICBM tech; there is no scientific reason to land a man on the moon, you can do a hundred robotic missions for the same cost. In the 60’s it had to be manned; you could hardly do anything with a rover let alone land the thing safely.
The only thing that’s left is 1960’s nostalgia and ”it’s kind of cool’. That’s why it restarts and stops before achieving anything over and over. A politician decides to play on 1960’s nostalgia and thinks of the moon landing as this great unifying moment. NASA gets to halfheartedly play with some tech and in the end everyone knows it is stupid and expensive.
Manned missions to the moon are just stupid and it just gets more stupid over time.
@@Eris123451 It appears that you haven't heard of the *Artemis* program. NASA isn't just going back, they plan to camp there! ROFLMAO!
*Pam* Tom's wife
Oh I've heard of it alright but only If you believe the adverting ?
There 's great bit in, "Closing Time, " Josef Heller's brilliant sequel to Catch Twenty Two where Yossarian is making a living good drawing pictures of imaginary fighter planes for congress committees to fund.
The actual planes themselves don't exist and are never going to but the companies contracting for them are making billions anyway, the American manned space program seems to me to be much same sort of thing.
I'm increasingly skeptical about whether an America now in decline still has will, competence and expertise to put men back on the moon anyway ?
We shall see ?
It's unreal how good your editing and presentation skills are, the animations feel practically artistic
"Apple updates ALONE would make that impossible..."
Truer words have never been spoken.
Yeahp.. but no only Apple them @RILEYLEIFSON_UTAH2 .. Microsoft .. Google .. they are all constantly beta testing their garbage in our devices.. only to patch it up latter with more beta testing trash... ... and of course always forcing you into thing.. even if the new "features" are no good for you and screw up your workings flow.. you have no choice.. ... look Win11 with the encryption bullshit.. you are a gamer.. you have a gaming rig.. is for games.. you don't need encryption anything... and they are going to force you in it anyway... wasting your CPU power.. wasting your Memory.. wasting your HDD space... and making you believe that you need a better new PC...
Apple moment
I actually though it was several layers of stupid.
First level of stupid: if Apple were to build an iPhone "to be sent to space", they'd build it differently than "to be quickly replaced by stupid American consumers".
Second level of stupid: if you actually still are dumb enough to send a regular iPhone into space... why would go as far as send it updates?
And so on... Yeah, I get it's a joke. It's a multi-layers stupidly joke. It's never, at any moment, either "true" or funny (although this is relative. e.g. Calling Americans stupid is funny to me).
@@siz1700 i prefer my iOrange
The og Nokia can do it
Столько слов про политику ,но ни слова про институт и коллектив, ведущий тогда программу освоения венеры. Разработкой занималось ОКБ им. С.А. Лавочкина, которое в то время возглавлял Георгий Николаевич Бабакин.Само предприятие, научный задел и сами аппараты сохранились, можно продолжить их исследования. Но их не запустят пока не дооснастят приборами для получения новых данных, а не повторения старых.
При этой власти их вряд ли запустят, разве что с таким же успехом что и Луна-25
My brother from the other good side, don't expect these people who are taught a lot of nonsense and BS about the USSR by their gov or controlled media to know about the institute or the team leading the program for the exploration of Venus. Thank you for the info. 👏🤙🤝
This is about WHY the soviets went to Venus, not "How"
@@hammerr потому что для любой великой топовой державы,какой СССР и являлся, состоявшей во всяческих международных организациях по исследованию окружающей среды было бы весьма стыдно не возглавить один из актуальных проектов на повестке, а взявшись не выполнить. И всё с целью доказать своё первенство и прогрессивность. У СССР был опыт постройки глубоководных аппаратов, способных выдержать давление в 30 и более атмосфер, так почему не построить на его основе исследовательский аппарат и под это провести исследование военных технологий с освоением военных бюджетов. Все так в мире делают,но мало кто даёт ощутимый практический результат.
Great info
Why all the negative undertones for the Russians lander and not the US Lander. These guys were in space 3 times before the US set foot in space. Their determination and ingenuity and stubbornness is something we should all aspire to
Thank you for respecting Russian scientists!
Unfortunately Russia often focuses its drive and determination towards unproductive if not self-destructive pursuits. This shows what they can do if they put effort towards productive pursuits and the positive results of it. Russia has a lot of potential as a society, They just choose not to realize it in the proper way.
@@cane6074 You write: "Russia has great potential as a society, they just prefer not to realize it properly." I agree with you, but there is one strange feature in this country - people here always follow the leader (the king, the general secretary, etc.). And if the king turns out to be wise, everything turns out fine, and if an evil dictator, then the country rolls into a pit. This is a country of extremes, and this is its trouble and curse.
@@yury_sch very true.
And when was that last Russian on the moon??
When i was working as a mechanic, one of my customers was an engineer who had done lots of development on the computers they put in cars. Its a very tough environment for a computer, extremes of hot and cold, corrosive chemicals, vibration etc. So they use carbide chips if my memory is working, instead of silicon chips, like in your desktop. They are much tougher than silicon chips, and deal with extreme heat better, which is key for being able to "pot" them in a lump of epoxy resin, to keep bad chemicals and vibrations away. Its really hard to seal up a computer with a big cooling fan vent. The russians had to use carbide chips for their venus probes, and i remember our customer, the engineer, was blown away by how short the lifespan was for a computer on venus, minutes or hours. Cant remember. This is with cutting edge version and big old budget version of car computer technology that lasts decades in a car.
Nothing even remotely enough to deal with a hellscape like Venus ... not even close.
Not knocking you bro, there are indeed extremes inside a car, I used to worry about my tapes iin the deck!
For the engine computer, I was kinda disappointed the other day, I just pulled a 2012 Jetta engine computer, actually probably just the BCM, still kinda critical, located a little left and under the steering wheel... did so because it wouldn't start, and headlights and tail lights were on and wouldn't turn off... this was after a heavy rain, and after disconnecting the 3 big connectors, and some wiggle, the computer module was removed... dripping water! I so hoped that the board was conformal coated, but popping open the case revealed a rather plain 2 sided mainboard with regular silicon chips, no conformal coat, no gaskets on the case, or the 3 connectors.
From the look of that board, it'd had dust and water incursion more than once, but now there were some corroded traces.
After a cleanup and dry out, I was stoked that the car was mostly back to normal.
@@k0nanickclassic Volkswagen "quality" there.
@@k0nanick I've taken apart a few ECUs and modules and all of them were like that. For their price you'd expect something revolutionary, but really they look like they were pulled from an old stereo or something.
@@dk-bw4gk I think a lot of the price is simply because it's a "rare" part, they probably don't cost much to make, but it's the software inside and the significance of that part that inflates the price, an ECU for a honda fit is over 1k, it's probably only a $300 part to make but they aren't making them in the same quantity that they're making ball joints or tie rods.
The early Venera probes may have been dead on arrival but just arriving alone is a remarkable achievement. Like the Indian moon shot, definitely not a failure.
The 2nd Indian one succeded in the stated mission.
Imagine if US and USSR had thrown their differences aside and worked together for science and space exploration they wouldn't have done many good discovery.
Those 2 whites don't like each other. Arabs are caucasian as well and are not liked. BOTH were neanderthals in caves fighting until the climate change.
Yeah, sure. Just like that. How about, "If only Great Britain and Nazi Germany had put their differences aside..."
Pollyannas make me tired.
@@JohnKoenig-db8lk actually they both would have been unstoppable
@@norger I see that Mr. Rogers has joined the chat.
@@JohnKoenig-db8lk It's only a speculation Dr Penguin theoretically they would've been an awesome Co - op
I think Venera 13 and 14 go down as two of the greatest space missions, still.
That's like saying a band with a single hit tune is the best of all time. Incredible success, of course, but of very limited duration and impact. The Soviets don't get their due credit, but "greatest"? No.
@@DavidWilliams-ig5ec I stand by my statement.
@DavidWilliams-ig5ec your analogy is really really bad. Landing on Venus is ultra hard core. If you want to stick to your band analogies, landing on Venus using the technology of that time is as if a band who only uses broken instruments that can only play a few notes, played by musicians who're missing a few fingers, manages to compose a hit even though their composer's deaf and their main singer cannot sing more than an octave - and somehow they still managed to get two hit songs. I've yet to see SpaceX or NASA send successfully a lander to a place where temperatures melt lead, with sulfuric acid rains and 1km deep pressures. Oh, and using only tech from 40 years ago, please. THAT'S HARDCORE. The probes didn't last more than 1 hour each? Well duh, of course.
@@JosePineda-cy6om "I've yet to see SpaceX or NASA send successfully a lander to a place where temperatures melt lead, with sulfuric acid rains and 1km deep pressures." Yes, you're right, because they know it's a pointless folly. Sorry the CCCP overlords didn't get the message based on their repeated failures. But I guess that kind of delusional thinking is why their country also ceased to exist.
@@JosePineda-cy6omLanding on Venus is the fairly 'easy' part, getting stuff to work there is the real challenge. Its kind of opposite of Mars in that way
14:47 This is actually incorrect. Venera 14 was not the last probe to land on Venus, Vega 1 and Vega 2 missions both had not only balloon probes but landers as well. These balloons and landers were deployed during a flyby of Venus before the main spacecrafts departed for the Halley's comet. Both landers looked similar to the last Venera probes, they were successful and landed on Venus on June 11th and 15th 1985 respectively, more than three years after Venera 14.
he did mention the balloons but "didn't want to get into it" 😆
Not what he said.
What he did say is that it's "a whole other story", hopefully for another time.
@@Oceansta He mentioned the Balloons but not the landers.
@@mrfrozen2705 It seems you didn't pay enough attention. In 14:45 he clearly says Venera 14 was the last time man made objects reached the surface of Venus and the he mentions "a whole other story" to be about "some cool stuff with balloons" after Venera 14.
there was also the day probe of NASA Pioneer Venus 2. Though it was not designed to land, it survived landing and transmitted. data.
They said they recorded wind blowing. I ended up looking up Venus's atmospheric density....which is 92 bar, or about 92 times denser than sea level on earth. That's absolutely nuts. The force generated by even a moderate wind would be off the chain.
I love how the Soviets didn't give up easily.
... until they do
Their resolve outmatches the entire west, including the US. Their society doesn't bow to DEI and color revolutions. They are tough as nails too.
Soviet economy wasnt about efficiency but more about achieving results that last. Money wasnt a driving factor of society and thats why it fail.
@@vinportobg kind of? they weren't interested in efficiency that would lead to a reduction in the required workforce, which would affect their employment and development model, most of their improvements came to improvements in the materials themselves. different tech tree to the Americans, because of the resources at hand, and you have to remember that in less than one lifetime the majority of the people went from near middle ages to superpower levels of development.
@@vinportobg Money was a driving factor of society, of course. It wouldn't buy you a good life in the S.U., but it would still be easier. That's why the smartest people avoided engineering like a plague and stuck into either trades, military or pure science where the salary was good. This, and inability to prop the oil price further up eventually made the soviet economy unable to compete.
Other probes actually have landed on the surface of Venus since Venera. Each of those balloon missions, Vega 1 and Vega 2, were also packaged alongside a flyby probe that would go on to visit Halley's Comet and a lander. Vega 1's lander instruments activated early, but both landers survived their descents. The Pioneer Venus Multiprobe also unintentionally landed an atmospheric probe, the Day probe, on the surface of Venus; this remains NASA's only successful landing on Venus.
Imagine if all of us could quit fighting wars and start exploring and building for humanity.
How are the MICs and politicians going to make money without constant wars?
Sorry but someone will always want whatever someone else has
@@Gex607why
@@sempi8159 that's how human nature works
@@tharun410
It's not.
The trippiest thing about the density of the atmosphere is that it increases gradually. If you were to descend towards the surface of Venus, you'd transition from flying through air to swimming through water without even noticing it.
What water?
Um, that's how the pressure of any atmosphere or liquid works. Nothing "Trippy"
@@rasta77-x7o even if you explain the sun to me you do not know how it got there or how it works.
requiring an answer makes you autistic.
being unable to see the magic in the world.
and trying to box everything in.
this thinking is evil.
hope you find happiness =)
namaste.
@@rasta77-x7o Yeah, I thought the video took an odd angle on that one. Layered atmospheric gases and eventually solids or liquids in increasing density is exactly how every gravity well works. That's not mind blowing, it's really basic physical science.
@@rasta77-x7o In my opinion a gradual spatial transition like that is trippy.
I'm still in team venus cloud city before mars colony.
Pros:
1. It's a fucking cloud city
2. It's warm
3. No Toxic dust
Con:
1. Acid clouds
2. you can fall down
3. A bit windy
Mars is a bitch to land in, but at least there's solid ground. However the ultra fine toxic dust and radiation doesn't help.
Venus meanwhile would literally require said cloud city to be delivered there and for obvious reasons would not allow for direct ground sample extraction and exploration by astronauts
It didn't stop Lando Carlrissian... Actually it's not quite the same. Bespin is a gas giant, more like Jupiter than Venus. And the city floated in a breathable layer.
Pressure comparable to being 1km deep in an ocean. It's hot enough to melt lead in seconds. It actually rains acid. Slight issues.
@@Nerdiness1985 On the surface yes, but at a certain altitude the pressure is about the same as earth's surface and the temperature falls to about 35 C, an average day in a hot place on earth. There's also plenty of radiation protection from the atmosphere above. We still can't breathe the atmosphere, but with just an oxygen supply and mask we could walk freely outside in our floating habitat. The acid rain would be a hazard. We'd need to make the habitat of anti-corrosion material and wear protective clothing outdoors, or even just carry a acid resistant umbrella. If the habitat sprang a leak we would not have to worry about explosive decompression and everybody suddenly dying, like you would on Mars or the moon. Repairing it would be a non-urgent job, like fixing a leaking roof on earth. We would also have to be very careful that our habitat, that is essentially a large aircraft, maintains its altitude because if it flew too low its inhabitants would burn up or get crushed.
@benthejrporter My vote is for Buckminster Fuller's Cloud Nine floating tensegrity sphere. Just needs to be a couple miles wide. Maybe add a mixture of Helium and Hydrogen ballonettes for buoyancy and fuel storage. Solar photovoltaic on the surface to power systems, and electrolysis of atmospheric water vapor to Oxygen and Hydrogen. The whole sphere would collect resources from the atmosphere, and process them for humans to use when they arrive. Carbon dioxide can produce raw carbon for a variety of purposes, including graphene for the production of more spheres.
I'm not sure why you thought venera had film cameras. It would have been ridiculous to somehow automate a film camera, processing, and then scanning system at that time, in a venusian probe with a lifespan of 53 minutes. It used the same kind of cameras we'd always used in space, electronic TV cameras. Not digital cameras mind you. Now some of NASAs missions did use film cameras for rocket stage footage, and it was then manually recovered, but electronic imaging using things like cathodes tubes existed back then. It's how we were able to live broadcast the moon walk.
I lived on Venera street in Fort Worth for a couple of years. 3708 Venera street. I planted that tree. She’s a beauty.
It is a nice tree!
Did your mother meet lee harvey?
What species of tree?
3708 upside down on a calculator spell BOLE; (_noun_) the trunk of a tree.
It was meant to be.
That is a live oak from a local Fort Worth tree/plant retailer
I was expecting a sound bite of the sound of Venus from the venera probe from this video... never came very disappointed
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Somehow the USSR felt more advanced that today's world. They actually pushed human knowledge to their limit in an honest attempt at seeking answers.
What ? Lol lol yep the soviets were just misunderstood, they were all about science and expanding the horizons of its subjugated population lol lol lol
@@chrisminshall938 contrary to popular belief, the soviet people were mostly happy with their government. The 1991 referendum left clear that 77% of the soviet population wanted the USSR to keep existing
@@intifadayuri lol lol are you for real ? Tell me who exactly surveyed the russian people ? Lol lol certainly it wasnt the govt that ran Gulag's and political and ethnic prisons lol lol lol lol
Russia is run by a bunch of f..ktards lost in a fun house.
@@chrisminshall938are you Ukrainian?
Working union is way better than post apocalyptic wasteland it become after death
I like the idea that a group of Soviet engineers simply got obsessed with Venus and their political superiors just let them have at it. Like the "I just wanted to see what happens" meme! Also, if you are taking suggestions, I find the idea of a clockwork probe instead of an electronic one really fascinating and you seem like just the guy to do a video on it. Here's to hoping! Cheers!
@kingofcrunk4237 Source: you just made it up out of thin air
Why is this always about political superiors? There were many fundamental research projects without any political meaning.
@@TheFaveteLinguis if something is cheap then you probably wont have to deal with superiors
Venus missions arent cheap
Similar to the soviet engineers that wanted to dig to the center of earth lol. Until they gave up because the drill bits melted
The designs are absolutely marvelous
unlike NASA they look exactly like stuff i would imagine in my dreams
There is no denying that Russia / USSR once produced world class engineers and scientists. They were held back by budgets and availability of quality materials, but still managed some world class achievements like this one. The Venera Probes seem excellently designed and the fact they even managed to succeed with 1970/1980s technology is frankly incredible.
@@norgerNASA is the best and they pathetic compared to them 😂
@@markmarcelis ehm the loaned out german scientists from ww2 have died already boomer, please update yourself to 2024 standards
Free fall for 47kms, and the air acted like a liquid…
Soviet stuff in Venus was a peak in the history of space exploration. Calling it "obsession" is cringe and antiscientific. It is like talking about Galileo and his "obsession" about staring through his telescope thing he made.
And obsession can be good. I don’t think it was meant in a bad kind of way.
not cringe at all. what is cringe is your opinion lol.
if there were something to be found or some major thing that could have been done on venus, fine, but there wasn't. they kept pushing for no reason. hence, obsession.
In the modern era, NASA has been obsessed with Mars (when not obsessed with crewed spaceflight in low earth orbit)
You should probably change the name from the space race to the space crawl. Since we are about 40 plus years behind schedule at this point.
because of mismanagement, micromanagement, politics, and corruption.
The Politburo and Congress between them, over the 1980s, were barely distinguishable.
never happened. distraction from where all that money went. wake up and smell the communism
Yes. Kind of like "the greatest generation" having thrived 70-80 ago... And just look at us NOW!
Capitalism destroyed space exploration. If there's no short-term profit, it won't get done.
The only goals now are for spy satellites, trash kulture TV to any part of the world, and eventually we'll have advertising in space via reflective particle fields that will reflect ground-based color lasers painting a pic on them.
Got to the moon, gloated a bit, then called it a day. It's such a shame, man.
I really like the "vibe or feel" of this video.. it brought attention to a lot of very concerning aspects. Keep the good videos coming plz
Those old Soviet engineers were crazy good!
Similar to the German scientists, during the WW2.
Just shows you, it doesn't matter were you are politically.
Talent is talent.
Everyone understands this. Only for Americans is it difficult to comprehend
Actually, most Soviet tech was from captured Nazi engineers and scientist. Read "Operation Paperclip".
There was also education.
@@armaniwebb4467 Please elaborate.
@@armaniwebb4467 Five rovers and a drone on Mars, probes to every planet, some minor planets, HST, JWST, and the Apollo missions. 5 probes exiting the Solar System.
Super video! Thank you very much. The only thing that could have been said is that Venus, unlike Mars, is about the same size as the Earth and the orbit of Venus is easier to reach than that of Mars.
The SF novel "Planet of Death" by the famous Stanislaw Lem from 1951 had a great influence in the Soviet Union. In it, cosmonauts (as astronauts are called there) discover the remains of a civilization that had wiped itself out with nuclear weapons. The film adaptation called "The Silent Star" 1960 was very popular. And so elaborately made that film material was bought by Hollywood producers, who even used it for two cinema films. In any case, there was the idea that Venus, which is in many ways more Earth-like than Mars, was much more likely to have life like our planet. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia article about the massive change in the view of Venus due to the Soviet Venus missions has disappeared. It clearly showed how much people believed in life there before and no longer afterwards. Now there is a Venus in fiction, but unfortunately the many SF novels in the Eastern Bloc (USSR and the socialist countrys around) hardly feature in it.
I noticed the whole thing because I've always been a Venus fan and an SF reader. And there was a discussion a while ago when an old climate scientist said that we are in danger of becoming like Venus. Only to say that, we'd have to know a lot more about Venus and what we know doesn't scientifically allow such a statement. Incidentally, Fraiser Cain from Universe today interviewed one of the leading Venus researchers a year ago. The video is called: "I'm obsessed with Venus now". Super Interview!
The balloons of the Soviets in the Venus atmosphere are a super cool topic. It would certainly be a great topic for a video. They were the first flying machines on another planet. Long before the super helicopter drone flew on Mars. Space race, you know ?😊
Thanks for your great videos. I always enjoy watching them! 😊
There is too much to read here 📚
That novel sounds interesting, thanks for the tip. Ever read "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke?
Some statement
You could try to find that wiki page in wayback machine.
The Silent Star is an East German-Polish film. It was changed to First Spaceship on Venus dubbed in English. It may be available on YT
I mean in fairness, they should be. It's often ignored due to how hostile the surface and environment are but Venus is one of the more fascinating planets in the solar system.
Wow, I had no idea about any of these trips to Venus. Love the pictures! Got to give those Soviet engineers high marks. Thanks! 🚀
Soviet innovation is so inspiring!
Especially considering the messed up system they are in.
The Venera programme is that one case where your comment is nonironic.
@@Awesomes007 Ironic you say that, because overthrowing a monarchy, eliminating economic social classes and creating one of the best welfare and pension systems in history isn't innovation to you? Stalinism, gulags and Ukrainian famine aside, the beginning and the latter half of the USSR wasn't as messed up as you think it was.
@@zimrielSoyuz is still in use today.
The one good thing about the Cold War is that it forced both sides to constantly outdo eachother with technological and scientific inventions, innovations, and understandings. We wouldnt have lifted a finger for the Space Race if the Soviets hadnt attempted to do it first.
Our planet is literally a paradise that's immeasurable in how rare and important it is to all of us. Recycle people. Take care of our wonderful planet. The next time you see a little trash or something pick it up and dispose of it properly, We have to change the way people think and live to make sure Earth remains the paradise it was before human beings.
Reuse. Recycling is a lie created by the same companies that created the waste and expected the consumer to be responsible to clean up.
yeah those things arent going to save the planet
Recycling as a whole is just a corpo scam. I've been inside a recycling plant, not a whole lot gets recycled. We can recycle metal effectively and that is about it.
@@theredstheredstheredsthereds You doing nothing isn't going to save it either
Majority of things do not get recycled when you "recycle"
All these Venusian photos were rectified to actual wide-field landscapes some 20 years ago.
It is amazing they are the ONLY ones to go there.... and it's incredible that we got photos back given the tech of the day.
Our technology today isn't built to last because we live in (the illusion of) abundance of ressources. There's big money in selling things to people that break all the times like iPhones, that's why you couldn't sent one to space. And then selling them a new one two years later.
The shortage of materials like it occured in the eastern side of the iron curtain produced an amazing spirit of craftmanship, so many people learnt to build something from almost nothing and building things to last because you couldn't just order something new and have it delivered a week later, you often had to wait for years for replacement parts of machinery and things like that. That's how this philosophy of sturdy building emerged.
I was born in the GDR, haven't personally experienced much of it but the aftermath and the spirit of the people that influenced me still rings through till today. Now I'm an engineer and I am amazed of what my parents and grandparents generation used to accomplish with the little means they had in all branches of life. I try to keep that spirit alive and I believe this is what the whole world needs to be doing but even better with the modern means of production we have today: build all sorts of things that are tough, modular, as easily repairable as possible and recycleable.
Not the cheap throwaway junk we have today in consumer electronics, tools etc.
I'm not even gonna read all that shit because you lost all credibility saying we don't live in an age of abundance
@@tjls123 then read again what exactly I wrote, the last words matter: abundance of RESSOURCES.
Not of products. We act like we had unlimited ressources and pump out as cheaply as possible made stuff that breaks all the time. That's what I said.
Read the rest and learn something about a time gone by or don't, I don't care, that's your decision. But maybe don't judge so loudly if something you don't even bother reading is "shit" that doesn't interest you... obviously it did enough to write a comment about it. ;-P
LOL this dude has never heard of Capitalism.
Accumulation of CAPITAL, its in the word mate, you may want to study basic economics 101.
Wasn’t just the gdr, every country before our modern and wasteful society had this, things could hold forever.
@@tjls123ehm you need to get reading skills,
He said we don’t live in abundance to resources, which is correct, we use more earths then their is, the resources are not infinite and our wasteful society burns trough it fast.
Abundance of things as you probably misread it, is not the same as resources.
Thank you for that. Thank you for telling us all about the sounds of Venus and getting us all excited and wanting to hear them and not actually including those sounds. thank you for that.
You need a fixed camera in the cab above your head (showing speed/date/road) a 360 cam and a chest cam with mic's, from now on make sure all calls to highways from your phone are recorded and when you ring up say you're recording the call as part of your company policy etc
It's only one of the greatest scientific accomplishments of all time.
Lol word, how I didn't even learn about this until I was like 28, 29😂
Even better than sliced bread?!
@@NarwahlGaming or butter on a knife?!
And, it's SPHERICAL
its one of the greatest deceptions the freemasons ever pulled off for sure. Look how many brainless people just follow the other, without critical thinking or research. Once you crack the code, you will realize how everything turned from smart to retarded, because everything is literall ass backwards. The whole space thing is a lie. They were using gleasons earth maps in ww2, earth isnt a marble......
Watched a video a few weeks ago about building inhabited airships for the upper atmosphere of Venus. Warmer temperatures, an actual atmosphere, and less radiation than would be on Mars. Pretty interesting video.
RUclips kept recommending this video to me, and I'm glad it did, welld done Space Race.
I give this a 10 out of 10, very well done.
Informative video,thanks for posting,was disappointed when you mentioned the microphone heard "spooky" noises but you failed to put the sound up which would have been very interesting to listen too.
Happy to have spawned in after they figured it out. Didn't have to do the waiting and thinking
=> The balloons of the Soviets in the Venus atmosphere are a super cool topic. It would certainly be a great topic for a video. They were the first flying devices on another planet. Long before the super helicopter drone flew on Mars. Space race, you know ?😊
Thanks for your great videos. I always enjoy watching them! 😊
(Just to be on the safe side this extra also. Because I also edited the other comment and don't know if you only get the first version as a content creator.)
next step would be to use that temperature difference as a power source
Thank you for providing F & C temps, plz keep giving both metric and imperial measurements, thx.
No, get rid of outdated horrible imperial and stick to universal scientific metrics.
@SMGJohn lol "outdated". 😆. The biggest world power uses it bud, it ain't outdated till we say so.
@@FactBits361
"World power" that cannot even get a grip on its little puppet Israhell or stop half a million people from dying of poverty within its own borders, how hilarious is that?
@@FactBits361The "biggest world power" -- whose population only comprises about four percent of the total world population. 😝
How much cooler are the poles of Venus ?
"Let's listen to the sound of this planet."
"DO NOT LOOK CLOSER!"
"Aight, we'll head out bye..."
We should put up a huge solar shade in a lagrange point around venus and watch it cool down. We would learn a lot about terraforming and we could control how much sunlight venus gets so we could make it the perfect temperature.
We should nuke the venus till it move from its orbit, move away from sun, so the themp will decrease
till you realize nobody ever went to space because it impossible.... funny how from the 60s till now, no more moon missions. You know what happened? People know where its filmed, and they dont want to get caught. Mars was filmed on DEVON ISLAND. Put that in google, you will literally see "astronauts in gear IN CANADA"....
It's not the sun that's heating Venus (well, it is, but not much more than Earth), it's the pressure that creates the heat. The dark side is just as hot as the sunny side, and a day (sunrise to sunset) is 117 days long. It's like how your bike pump gets hot when using it.
@@dk-bw4gk It is the sun. The difference to earth is that it keeps the heat trapped. If you would remove all sun light from venus it would take a few centuries for the atmosphere to get thinner and condense in the end it would look like a ln ice moon covered with dry ice.
Mariner 2 became the first successful mission to another planet when it flew by Venus on December 14, 1962. The spacecraft made a number of discoveries about the planet and marked another first by measuring the solar wind, a constant stream of charged particles flying outward from the sun.
Five years later, Mariner 5 followed up on Mariner 2's study of Venus with a closer look at the planet's atmosphere.
What a fantastic story, well told.
blows my mind how empty your brains are...
Making mistakes in an aggressive way is the Soviet mantra
For Venera, it didn't hurt anyone. Let 'em cook.
See also: SpaceX
mmm, did anyone else land on Venera? You sound like a moron , you know?
Why this channel make so much sense?
Venus is just...terrifying for some reason. At least to me. It's a world that seems designed to destroy anything that tries to land on it. Why would such a place exist where nothing could live? Even on Mars or in space life could survive with space suits. But not Venus. The fact such a dangerous place could just randomly exist is so unsettling...
Venus is not the only inhospitable place. Everywhere is inhospitable. Our bodies are designed to live 🙏 n planet Earth. Period. There is actually nowhere else for us to live if we destroy our planet. People are so naive when they think we can just move somewhere else, even if it is terraformed. We need the moon and the gravitational force,oxygen levels and many more complex forces that we aren't always aware of to be able to live and reproduce normally and thrive.
What’s really unsettling is that the Earth could become like Venus with enough greenhouse gasses in our atmosphere.
@@magicaltour1 Since watching this video, I've seen videos on how our Solar System will change over the next billion years. Even if humanity gets its act together and stops polluting, Earth and every other planet will eventually be destroyed by the expanding sun. So that's also...fun...to think about.
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This video was well documented appreciate the hard work
Great video piece! 👍🏽👍🏽
When citing temperatures - please confirm which units you're citing.
Great video. Just got yourself another subscriber:)
There has never been a photograph from Venus on "film", all digital.
_"NNNNEEERRRDD!!"_ - Homer Simpson
Absolutely right. But how were they able to not only take digital pictures but also transmit them back to earth that to in the 60s! It's just mind-boggling.
@@Oceansta Late 70s to early 80s, but you're right its impressive
Photography means "Writing with light"
So any picture of anything other than text isn't a photograph.
@@065Tim you didn't understand the OP. The difference is between saying "film" and "digital". No one is disputing the photograph part of is.
The reason Venus has a high surface temperature is because it has 92% more atmospheric pressure from earth
Not from some runaway greenhouse gas, it’s physics.
Mars has nearly 100% c02 atmosphere and they have no “runaway greenhouse gas effect”
Mars has a minimum atmospheric pressure leading to low temps.
Modern computers aren’t made to last anymore, because companies have shifted from designing computers for business and institutions to that of regular consumer demand. This shift occurred sometime in the late 80’s with the advent of the PC computers. Also, with the increase in software storage capacity came the lazy solution model. It used to be that when you design a computer you made sure every single part was designed perfectly because otherwise your software could not run correctly, but with increased computer software capacity many modern computers are simply designed to rely on self correcting software tools in cases where hardware is faulty. These two factors have contributed to a model of computer design the last 30 years which is incredibly unreliable compared to its predecessors. Which inversely were also much simpler designs that used far more logic to solve their unique problems. To solve this dilemma its clear that a revolution in the world of atoms is required. New hardware and material designs have to be produced in the next couple decades that push the boundaries of reliable design.
Thirty years ago, 40MB was the standard hard disk size. A disk would typically have a life of two years. Daily or for the lazy weekly backups were essential.
no error correction has become necessary since chip makers are pushing against the limits of what is possible without quantum schenanigans turning your data into sphaggety
Ever used a 1980s analog synthesizer or old digital synthesizer they won't last long when you play them every day.
Old soviet joke. Soviets learn that Americans landed on the moon. Nikita Khruschev is furious! He demands his scientists prepare a mission with the goal to land on the Sun!
Scientists: but our probe and our astronauts will burn!
Nikita: we're not stupid, we will go at night
Glad this channel got recommended to me. Thank you, great video
While interesting to those who have never seen any videos about Russians probes to Venus, this is all old material shown many times by other channels.
What? You want him to go up and shoot new stuff - Kubrick style?
WOW ! BRILLIANT !!! THOSE SOVIETS ARE LIKE HONEY BADGERS. YOU GOTTA LOVE THEM.
If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place.
Excellent video, one of your best IMO.
A man from my hometown, Gilroy Chow (Chinese American) was a mathematician on the Apollo 11 mission. He’s brilliant. He laughs at the conspiracy theories. It was his job. He was in the NASA office watching in real time!
Dude. Even the actual astronauts are "conspiracy theorists"
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Now that was something I had never thought about before and it is very refreshing too find new content on the RUclips that is fast losing its appeal because of demonized videos and videos that are not exciting enough for people like me or way too many people just doing the same boring stuff that was once exciting when it was new.
13:04: Nice documentary about the exploration of Venus. But you say that Venera 13 was sent in 1981, but the image is of Venera 8.
its all fiction.... browse devon island if you wanna see astronauts "playing space" in canada, pretending to be on mars. They simply dont want to tell you what they do with the money, so they give you this bullshit, and you believe it. Pretty simple
I’m losing my mind at the fact I’m just now learning that Russia landed on fcking Venus
USSR did. Russia is the core part but there are 15 more
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.
Venera 9 filmed a venusian slug moving through 3 or 5 frames. They wrote it off as the wind current.
I am in absolute awe of these missions. Soviet era ingenuity and exploratory zeal is woefully underreported. I don’t get how people can be flippant and dismissive when watching this. Love these missions. Wish others had more balls in theirs.
Thank you for respecting Russian scientists!
@@yury_sch Pozhaluysta my man!!!
About the Venera space program, i've just got this quote in my head:
"- You don't stop until you find an answer. Because that is who you are...
- A lunatic then...
- Scientist"
(HBO Chernobyl series)
I almost thought this was another Simon Whistler channel
Except it seems well researched and better produced.
@@Bruvva_Wu Some of those are shockingly bad
@stevenobrien557 bad but not as rushed, error filled and incorrect clip art as the Dark Skies/Dark Seas channels.
Lol well let's be honest, I'm sure all he does is just do the presentation/narration, I dont think he actually does the behind-the-scenes work
Text: "We can send a rocket to slam into another planet."
Subtext: "We can send a rocket to slam into any city of the West."
And this is how an ICBM's payload was switched with a crew capsule.
The defunct Soviet Union did some awesome space exploration. It's a shame they never landed a cosmonaut on the moon.
Who can ever forget the Six Million Dollar Man episode "Death Probe". Steve must disable a Soviet probe that returns from Venus, lands in the US and goes on a rampage.
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Pfft, that guy was a waste of money, 6 mill. Good thing we only made one.
Fun fact: The Russians actually focused so much on Venus, because it's much closer to Russia compared to any other countries!
You do realize the earth spins? That literally makes no sense, depending on day or night Russia would be either close or even furthest from Venus.
Fun fact, the rocket launch at 1:07 while the narrator talks about Russia; that rocket was actually launched by Germany around 1940, give or take a few years.
Climate scientists base their concerns over climate change on measurements from Venus. That the conditions which created Venus are not remotely similar to Earth does not seem to phase their quasi-religious belief in that model. "Sure, this apple is close enough to a banana for us to draw exact comparisons."
It was more a case of general Soviet Neuroses than anything Venus specific. The guy in power demanded it so the space program kept trying until they brute forced success in a futile attempt to avoid the Gulag. Of course being the Soviets success wasn't garneted protection and succeeding too well could also be a gulag sentence.
No. There was no GULAG after Stalin's death. But I see you being jealous of other's success.
Как же вы надоели со своими фантазиями🤦♀️ если врёте, то врите грамотно
@@TheFaveteLinguisMaybe they did away with GULAG but what about GUITK? Perm-36? Same shit, different smell.
@@sebking7902 all countries in different time periods had their versions of political camps or prisons.
The original notion was that the Soviet scientific achievements are the mere result of political oppression. Which is a nonsense.
You comment doesn't prove anything of that sort. It's a good example of judgemental cynicism. "Whatever they achieved and gave to the world - it's all the product of oppression and, therefore, valueless".
Sure. All British culture is based on colonial oppression. All things done by British are shit, because they did that while squeezing resources from those who were unable to defend themselves.
Is this your version of history?
@@TheFaveteLinguis I lost the context of the original comment, apologies. I wasn’t trying to belittle Soviet achievements, just pointing out that GULAG was replaced with something which was not much different, in case someone were to misinterpret your comment as the entire system being abandoned. A lot of Westerners don’t even know that GULAG is an acronym.
Damn! To get some pictures a soil sample and a sound bite from a place where all descriptions make it sound like hell is pretty fkn impressive.
Over 900 degrees and 90x the pressure??? WTF?
Had the Soviet's best rocket engineer not been brutalized by communism, they could have "won" the space race.
Earths flat…. We never went to the moon and you’re all
Being lied to
So, what’s next?
@@truestory2990 great question …. Ask “why”…. Then move to the country, get married and have lots of children. Watch Owen Benjamin …. There !…. You’re welcome
Watch “Witsit Gets It”
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Does your brain still available?
@@ina_001 you don’t speak English do you ?
I feel like interest in space from the general public doesn't exist anymore. I can't be the only one who feels that way. It's quite sad. In those days, there was such an excitement for space exploration from all walks of life. Nowadays, bs politics, sex, drugs, and money are only at the forefront of the general public's mind, and we're all locked in to the psychosis of the internet and social media. Didn't mean to be pessimistic at the end here, but in this day in age, there's not too many people who really get it.....
That's because less people buy the science fiction of 'space' these days.
That video was annoying to belittle any soviet or Russian achievement...
so cringe and unrespectful of those scientists, who no matter which side they were, did accomplish fantastic things... at least more than editing and pasting around video cuts from the darkness of a bedroom...