Scientists: "These signals can't be from aliens, they never repeat." Also scientists: "Let's send a signal to another star, but only transmit it once."
This is actually quite accurate. Carl Sagan himself sent out an extremely powerful signal in 1974 from the Arecibo Radio Telescope as a greeting to aliens, but it was never repeated.
Arecibo was more or less just a proof of concept. They aimed the signal towards stars as far away from us as they really could get. Guaranteed no one ever heard it.
@@beautimous7347It doesn't really matter in this context. The fact is, it's a radio signal, sent by an intelligent species, that does not repeat enough to qualify for SETI. This demonstrates very clearly that the standards proposed are wrong.
Me too... The theme tune by Vangelis and the theme from 'The Sky at Night' - Sir Patrick Moore (Pelléas et Mélisande (Sibelius) put me on this path.... ruclips.net/video/2lt4z2ntBVg/видео.html
I know it's fiction, but read the book triolgy "3 Body Problem." It will make you think twice (or more) about sending new messages into space in the hope of finding intelligent life.
The most well balanced and well explained space channel. It is really intriguing. And a human commentary, not a AI generated voice. There are "people" out there. WE ARE NOT ALONE
You have absolutely no idea, my friend. Angry is a great guy, but he massages or sometimes probably is completely unaware of certain data. Want some amazing channels? Cool worlds Fraser Cain Astrum Scott Manley Isaac Arthur Event horizon John Michael Godier These are only a few channels that are much better than angry astronaut and Jordan will agree here😂. Some channels like angry are Chris lehto Weaponised Though I personally rate him slightly above them😂 But anyway RUclips is indeed full of junk and when you bump onto a ai-voice one then immediately report channel and thumbs down.
@@Roguescienceguy. Yup. The Information Age is rapidly becoming the Misinformation Age. The more information that is easily available, the less everyone seems to know.
Yes, if NASA announced the discovery of alien civilization, they'd be in the forefront of everyone's attention, money would flow into their budget like Niagara Falls. The scientists responsible would be world famous and rich, taught to every kindergarten student on the globe for a thousand years. Why wants the hassle of all that fuss, money and fame? OF COURSE they ghost the idea. It's sad that alien enthusiast/conspiracy enthusiasts are lack self awareness to realize what fools they make of themselves with these silly conspiracy delusions. Why would you voluntarily humiliate yourself so on the Internet?
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 _"These are the same guys who largely didn’t believe there were planets outside our solar system 30 years ago"_ That's a perfect example of how science works. We don't start out proclaiming every brain fart to be true. We realize that logic, intuitive thinking and imagination have no bearing on the truth. So we start with the model that things don't exist. Then we build instruments to test whether those things might exist. Did UFO enthusiasts, or internet channel owners find out the truth? No, they made no effort to find external planets. The ones who formulated the plans and built instruments whose next level capabilities could actually detect exoplanets were astronomers, astrophysicists, opticians, universities and NASA, you know, the ones you say are in a conspiracy to keep mankind from knowing "the truth." Yes, if you got your way science would end. All that would be necessary is for some fool like you to simply proclaim "aliens are all around us, the galaxy is full of exoplanets" and shazaam! We don't need no freakin' research. You have spoken and the issue is decided. Instead, actual clear-thinking individuals in groups like NASA did the hard and long work of designing instruments capable of gathering evidence as to whether or not exoplanets really existed. While you were denouncing them as fools, they progressed to developing the instruments capable of actually characterizing those exoplanets' sizes, temperatures, atmospheres, etc. And astronomy and NASA have told you everything you know about those exoplanets. Your reply? They're idiots. _"These are the same guys who largely didn’t believe there were planets outside our solar system 30 years ago"_ Get a life. They have lives--significant lives that improve even stupid people's lives, so they can say really stupid things.
Modern communications are moving to spread spectrum communications. These are inherently wideband. Any advanced civilization would move towards these shortly after discovering electromagnetic communications. Without knowledge of the coding sequence, these signals would look like random noise.
Maybe Sagan's crew discovered Starships be they warships or civilian of some civilization or so sending coms, and we just so happened to be able to detect them?
tyvernoverlord. You may be right, they are out there. I take photos/video of objects in our sky and near the moon and believe whatever was sending the signal is possibly no longer in that area. While taking a video of what I thought was a star in 2018 I accidentally took a video of what I call a battleship shaped craft, it was stationary or moving slowly in the direction of the Hercules constellation. I can only wonder who or what advanced technologies are within this spaceship.
And that's the hypothesis I would lean towards. When the shift happened? From burning people for saying "there are no gods", to ostracising people for declaring exactly opposite (aliens)?
The issue to me, is that its highly likely that aliens wouldn't use radio at all. We've teleported data 120 miles so far, so I'm sure they mastered it a long time ago. It's point to point with no radiation, so we would never be able to detect it.
Really interesting point around 13:00 about amplification, implying the few signals we have picked up were amplified by unlikely random effects, and to see them again we would need to watch continously for months. Maybe we have just not been looking nearly enough at the candidate spots in the sky.
I doubt a civilization will purposely send signals to be heard. More likely, once an advanced civilization first realizes they are not alone, they will then only listen to understand who is out there, but not broadcast to be heard.
I don't see any reason they'd be forced to choose 1.42GHz. To say they deliberately chose the resonant frequency of hydrogen, sounds more like a fever dream, than logic.
Add to that, that any radio source is likely moving either to or from the Earth. If their search compensates for the relatively trivial Doppler Shift of a rotating Earth, would it even recognize a red or blue shifted signal?
There is some logic to it, there is very little artificial noise at that level so it's a good choice to send a signal as a beacon but yes the chances of picking a civilization accidently on that frequency is very low
Alien vessels run on new physics. It’s thus futile to search RF and that’s why the cosmos is quiet. We don’t have “subspace” receivers…or maybe we do already.
The helpful thing to do, would be to explain what Number Free needs to know, since they obviously didn't get it from the video. Rather than OMGing your disdain.....
The waste of money we spend on other trivial projects yet the ultimate search and answer we all want to know is dropped. The answer of, are we alone at this time, could unite us as a species.
Dear Angry, I've had the dream since Carl Sagan spoke of possibly 50K intelligent life systems in the Milky Way, that one day we would be visited by aliens who would casually declare "We are a 200,000 year old federation of 50,000 star systems..." History reset button activated! 🤣
I still have my circuit board! Depends on the amount of switches and toggles and i pick it up towards the west coast, along time ago it was the gulf of mexico
Yes, NASA would suddenly be on the top of everyone's priorities, money would flow like the Niagara river into NASA's coffers, the scientists who produced the first proof of alien civilization would rich and famous for a thousand years. Who would want all that hassle? Of course they're covering it up and still living in poverty.
Angry, to twist Sagan’s own point, if even ONE of the UFO experiences that humans have reported are true, then there are countless alien civilizations visiting Earth right now and that’s the absolute truth of the matter.
As the Television Radio Waves have escaped Earth since the first broadcasts, I fantasies that Entities pick them up and having a favourite one to watch 😊
Extraterrestrial civilizations with FTL travel will probably have some form of FTL communication we are not able to detect. We should definitely be listening anyway as other civs ,like our own ,will no doubt be using radio before they become an FTL type civ. Eventually we will make contact, I believe it to be just a matter of time and luck.
If there are two signal transmitters toward the inner Milky Way, doesn't it stand to reason that they might be nearer to each other than to us? Wouldn't it then be likely that those two transmitting planets might talk to each other such that we in turn would be able to listen in on their signals repeatedly? Also, my dad once told me that stars twinkle but planets don't. That's how one can easily find planets in the night sky.
We have ourselves beamed attempted contact signals into space. We have never repeated them, so why should the aliens? - Or maybe their signals only impinge on us by accident.
It strikes me that statistically it's possible that various element formations could produce chambers akin to magnetrons which could be activated with a burst of energy from a neutron star or supernova, which evidently won't repeat.
Other reasons: There was an "anomalous" metal piece from Roswell, specifically from the Roswell incident of 1947. This was a piece of unidentified metal alleged to contain magnesium with a bismuth crystalline structure inside which produced terahertz radiation which the unknown metal channeled perfectly to produce antigravity effects. It ran the carny circuit for many years, but finally snagged by the AARO, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, charged with rigorous scientific study of alleged alien materials. Why doesn't Avi Loeb schlep all his alien material over there since they are the state of the art in testing of such materials. I've never heard Loeb even mention the AARO.....hmmmmm. But I'm off subject. AARO tested this material for two years, and answered questions, such as "is this extraterrestrial material from outside our solar system?" and "Does this material have great transmission and waveguiding of terahertz electromagnetic radiation?" "Do those bismuth crystals actually generate terahertz frequencies?" "Do the terahertz frequencies produce any antigravity effects?" Definitively and rigorously, AARO answered those questions. I'll let you find the answers yourself in this footnoted and linked to the scientific papers in peer reviewed journals. this is an exemplary video worth imitating for someone trying to establish the truth about controversial subjects, such as UAPs. ruclips.net/video/J6xtxZwrGLY/видео.htmlsi=ZQml43qw0Iwe2iG- Why is UFO research so difficult? Because fake artifacts flood the evaluation system, discouraging real research. The alien enthusiasts are killing the research they claim to want.
It's amazing that we expend any effort to find intelligent life in the far reaches of the galaxy, believing that eventually we will find it - out there. Yet, when someone like Abi Lobe proposes a theory that Omuahmuah might be alien tech, or that the microspherials in the bottom of the sea might be artificial metal alloys that came from outside our solar system, or when the military are forced to confess that there's been unidentified craft doing things outside of humankind's known technical limits, everyone throws cold water on the idea that space aliens exist...
Yes, the conflict between those actually searching for any alien life and those like Loeb, who make no effort whatever but are only interested in notoriety is stark. If Loeb has his way, alien research is over. All you have to do is go to a random spot in the ocean, collect a couple hundred of the billions of similar spheres distributed all over the globe and proclaim loudly that these spheres of formerly molten metal are part of an alien mechanism "using artificial intelligence.": Rules: DO NOT tell the public what every astronomer knows, that the oceans of the world and the Antarctic ice cap host billions of similar spheres. DO NOT send these samples to the military organization, AARO, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, which has the expertise and equipment to conduct analyses which would clearly show whether material was from outside our solar system DO NOT inform the public of the reasons your wacko hypothesis is probably utterly wrong. Claim with confidence that a garden variety meteor that was in no way remarkable, was definitely from outside our solar system. Billions of iron meteors from interplanetary and interstellar space have left more billions of small sphericals everywhere on the planet. DO make weird, hyperbolic and sensational claims that you know are wrong, but might fool lay people. Loeb made other weird and wild claims. I’ll quote Dr Monica Grady again from *The Conversation.* _”But Loeb doesn’t just think the material is from space, he thinks it is from interstellar space - arguing “this could be the first time humans put their hands on interstellar material.”_ _”This is simply not true. We have an abundance of interstellar material on Earth. Some of it is almost certainly on the ocean floor, but not in the form collected by Loeb.”_ Real scientists are not shy about denouncing the scientism (to steal a Flat Earthian term) of Avi Loeb. Loeb has left the entire realm of science in favor of grandiose claims having no chance of falsifiability or verification. As Dr Grady said in the conclusion of her devastating article, _”I am not sure what evidence would be sufficiently convincing for this - maybe the autograph of the alien engineer who built the spacecraft?”_ And with that Loeb is drowned by the cavalcade of scientific laughter. He certainly earned it. Immanuel Velikovsky would be proud. Here's the definitive test to determine whether a scientific paper is really scientific or merely pseudoscientific, like Avi Loeb's. We'll quote an actual scientist, famous for innovative findings that are well researched and meticulously proved. _”For example, if you’re doing an experiment, you should report everything you think might make it invalid-not only what you think is right about it: other causes that could possibly explain your results; and things you’ve thought about that you’ve eliminated by some other experiment, and how they worked-to make sure the other fellow can tell they have been eliminated.”_ _”Details that would throw doubt on your interpretation must be given, if you know them. You must do the best you can-if you know anything wrong, or possibly wrong, to explain it. If make a theory, for example, and advertise it or put it out, then you must also put down all the facts that disagree with it, as well as those that agree with it.”_ -Richard Feynman, “Cargo Cult Science” And I close with an observation about the OBLIGATION of a scientific paper to clearly explain the reasons it might not be true: a characteristic found in NO Avi Loeb "scientific" paper. _”The less you study a subject, the more possible explanations you can imagine. The more data you have, the fewer explanations explain the data.”_ _”If the police are trying to find out who the killer was, as they gather evidence the number of suspects, through the process of elimination, gets reduced and hopefully they can narrow it down to one. But before they go through the process of collecting the clues, the number of suspects is numerous.”_ _”It’s the same here. The less you study a subject, the more possible explanations you can imagine. But the more you study a subject, the number of explanations gets reduced. That is why it seems to the outsider that experts’ minds are more closed.”_ - Dr David Miano “World of Antiquity” RUclips Channel. But as we refine our knowledge with new data, Weirdo denialists' fantasy claims are always that our minds are closed, that the ideas eliminated by careful evidence collection and analysis are the most likely to be true. Hogwash. The truth renders all other possible explanations false. One truth: billions of brain farts. That's science.
@@MarkBarrett Let's just say that this was a rhetorical question. I can hear the station chief officer on one of those planets yell to his operator: "Cut that signal! Cut that signal! Don't let those Earthlings hear us. They're nothing but trouble."
The most interstellar/intergalactic traffic is going to be near the center of the galaxy and around our black hole...especially if you can use a black hole to refuel help slingshot or want to observe it. I know I would.
If the aliens are more advanced than us, they are probably using some sort of realtime quantum entanglement communication. That is if aliens are real and quantum entanglement is real
we can not be the only species in this galaxy we have barely begun to study the universe there is evidence that can not be explained we just do not have the technology to understand how to find them
What if the sources were less powerful, but close, and moving fast? Like, say, a spaceship passing by. Imagine being a rabbit whose Warren is close to a rarely-used back road. Once every lifetime or so, a car goes by. Usually they pass unnoticed. But you swear you heard something the other day ... Music from a loud radio. It lasted only moments, then was gone. You go to see what made that noise - nothing but the usual cornfields or trees. What was it? Most of your tribe thinks you're nuts, except for Great Uncle Wiggly, who says he heard it once, too ... But everyone thinks he's also gone tharn ...
We are only a couple of decades away from ending forever the use of RF signals in spacecraft control, administration, maintenance, and communications.US intelligence is already changing from RF to laser communications. Our entire history of RF in space will span less than 100 years, This is true of any other advanced technology planet. SETI began introducing optical space signal receivers about a decade ago. Every optical telescope has splash areas just outside its optical path where light leaves the optical beam and is wasted. Optical receivers can be placed at these spots and be constantly monitored by fairly cheap computers. Every form of digital light signal can be separated from background noise,
Scientists: "These signals can't be from aliens, they never repeat."
Also scientists: "Let's send a signal to another star, but only transmit it once."
This is actually quite accurate. Carl Sagan himself sent out an extremely powerful signal in 1974 from the Arecibo Radio Telescope as a greeting to aliens, but it was never repeated.
Lmao so true 😂😂😂😂😂
Now that is a great point, shut up!
They shouldn’t send anything at all. It might be a dark forest and the silence out there is good evidence that remaining silent is wisest.
They already here
Repeating signals are so important that when we sent out the Arecibo message in 1974, we didn't repeat it.
We got our answer
That is a “token attempt” if I ever saw one.
Arecibo was more or less just a proof of concept. They aimed the signal towards stars as far away from us as they really could get. Guaranteed no one ever heard it.
@@beautimous7347Wrong, Diphthong . And we got an answer in a real Alien Crop Circle message.
@@beautimous7347It doesn't really matter in this context. The fact is, it's a radio signal, sent by an intelligent species, that does not repeat enough to qualify for SETI. This demonstrates very clearly that the standards proposed are wrong.
Thank you for not fearing away from reporting on the non-human matters that we should be aware of as a progressing species.
Thanks for watching!!
Very mature and well stated opening segment. I 100% agree.
Humanity needs to stop navel gazing and marvel up into infinity ✨💫✨
✨Thank you for your wonderful channel!🌚✨🌝
Carl Sagan's Cosmos on PBS in 1980 got me, too! I've been a space guy ever since❤😅
Me too...
The theme tune by Vangelis and the theme from 'The Sky at Night' - Sir Patrick Moore (Pelléas et Mélisande (Sibelius) put me on this path.... ruclips.net/video/2lt4z2ntBVg/видео.html
My double record set still plays despite not having amy discernable grooves in it. Loved the series and the (original) soundtrack!
Same here. From India
Starship "Theofilos".
We need disclosure now more than ever
Truth has always been the protection of the common and the bane of want-to-be bosses.
I watch this whilst wearing my custom-printed polo shirt which reads "6EQUJ5" . The 'wow' signal story has always intrigued me!
CQ CQ, this is W9GFO…come back? 😢
I named a chapter in my new book 6EQUJ5.
Only Kenneth knows the true frequency.
If I were an alien broadcasting a beacon, I'd reference pulsar stars as landmarks.
You're getting good at this Angry. Thank you Sir!
I know it's fiction, but read the book triolgy "3 Body Problem." It will make you think twice (or more) about sending new messages into space in the hope of finding intelligent life.
The most well balanced and well explained space channel. It is really intriguing. And a human commentary, not a AI generated voice. There are "people" out there. WE ARE NOT ALONE
You have absolutely no idea, my friend. Angry is a great guy, but he massages or sometimes probably is completely unaware of certain data. Want some amazing channels?
Cool worlds
Fraser Cain
Astrum
Scott Manley
Isaac Arthur
Event horizon
John Michael Godier
These are only a few channels that are much better than angry astronaut and Jordan will agree here😂. Some channels like angry are
Chris lehto
Weaponised
Though I personally rate him slightly above them😂
But anyway
RUclips is indeed full of junk and when you bump onto a ai-voice one then immediately report channel and thumbs down.
@@Roguescienceguy. Yup. The Information Age is rapidly becoming the Misinformation Age.
The more information that is easily available, the less everyone seems to know.
@@Roguescienceguy I agree, good topics, sloppy facts.
Thank You Jordan
Time to watch 'Contact' again.
For Carl....
The book ending stopped me in my tracks. Sagan was not religious, but wow. The movie ending was good but did not hit me like the hardcover did.
Congratulations! You're doing great work, Brother.
Thanks for reporting on this. I'm amazed we haven't heard it from NASA.
Never a straight answer . Solved why they haven't said nothing.
NASA has always ghosted the alien hypothesis. It's sad.
I think time is going to tell that far from it, some within NASA are very aware
Yes, if NASA announced the discovery of alien civilization, they'd be in the forefront of everyone's attention, money would flow into their budget like Niagara Falls. The scientists responsible would be world famous and rich, taught to every kindergarten student on the globe for a thousand years. Why wants the hassle of all that fuss, money and fame? OF COURSE they ghost the idea.
It's sad that alien enthusiast/conspiracy enthusiasts are lack self awareness to realize what fools they make of themselves with these silly conspiracy delusions. Why would you voluntarily humiliate yourself so on the Internet?
These are the same guys who largely didn’t believe there were planets outside our solar system 30 years ago
Liars face Fires
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 _"These are the same guys who largely didn’t believe there were planets outside our solar system 30 years ago"_ That's a perfect example of how science works. We don't start out proclaiming every brain fart to be true. We realize that logic, intuitive thinking and imagination have no bearing on the truth. So we start with the model that things don't exist.
Then we build instruments to test whether those things might exist. Did UFO enthusiasts, or internet channel owners find out the truth? No, they made no effort to find external planets.
The ones who formulated the plans and built instruments whose next level capabilities could actually detect exoplanets were astronomers, astrophysicists, opticians, universities and NASA, you know, the ones you say are in a conspiracy to keep mankind from knowing "the truth." Yes, if you got your way science would end. All that would be necessary is for some fool like you to simply proclaim "aliens are all around us, the galaxy is full of exoplanets" and shazaam! We don't need no freakin' research. You have spoken and the issue is decided.
Instead, actual clear-thinking individuals in groups like NASA did the hard and long work of designing instruments capable of gathering evidence as to whether or not exoplanets really existed. While you were denouncing them as fools, they progressed to developing the instruments capable of actually characterizing those exoplanets' sizes, temperatures, atmospheres, etc. And astronomy and NASA have told you everything you know about those exoplanets.
Your reply? They're idiots. _"These are the same guys who largely didn’t believe there were planets outside our solar system 30 years ago"_ Get a life. They have lives--significant lives that improve even stupid people's lives, so they can say really stupid things.
Thanks for this. I needed to hear this.
Why can’t nasa be honest about anything? They haven’t even been honest about how bad Starliner is.
Crazy day hey!? Thanks for this video, all that's on TV is the shooting attempt so it's good this isn't. Very interesting stuff 🤔
Great intro message, and congrats on the milestone!!
I really appreciate your opening statement. We need more peace , not more division and hate. We came too Damn close yesterday
Close is never enough.
Great job, Jordan! Lovely sentiments, in the macro, and wonderful detail, as usual!
Modern communications are moving to spread spectrum communications. These are inherently wideband. Any advanced civilization would move towards these shortly after discovering electromagnetic communications. Without knowledge of the coding sequence, these signals would look like random noise.
Great content. Ty ❤
Maybe Sagan's crew discovered Starships be they warships or civilian of some civilization or so sending coms, and we just so happened to be able to detect them?
tyvernoverlord. You may be right, they are out there. I take photos/video of objects in our sky and near the moon and believe whatever was sending the signal is possibly no longer in that area. While taking a video of what I thought was a star in 2018 I accidentally took a video of what I call a battleship shaped craft, it was stationary or moving slowly in the direction of the Hercules constellation. I can only wonder who or what advanced technologies are within this spaceship.
Professor simon says they have already found techno signals..
NASA isn't even looking for entangled alien signals for instantaneous communication.
I remember being a kid and watching The Cosmos at night before failing asleep, one of the greatest shows of all time.
Don’t thank us Angry. Thank the aliens!
NASA competes for budget crumbs, its a miracle they do as much as they do now.
Why? Because they are afraid of finding out we are not alone.
They're afraid of the normies finding out we are not alone.
And that's the hypothesis I would lean towards. When the shift happened? From burning people for saying "there are no gods", to ostracising people for declaring exactly opposite (aliens)?
Professor Simon just dropped a related video..
Congrats on 35 million views!
Thank you for your information.
The issue to me, is that its highly likely that aliens wouldn't use radio at all. We've teleported data 120 miles so far, so I'm sure they mastered it a long time ago. It's point to point with no radiation, so we would never be able to detect it.
Fantastic!
So many reasons to be angry.
Great video, as always!
Thanks!
Thanks so much for your generous support!!
Really interesting point around 13:00 about amplification, implying the few signals we have picked up were amplified by unlikely random effects, and to see them again we would need to watch continously for months. Maybe we have just not been looking nearly enough at the candidate spots in the sky.
If I was trying to send long distance through space I would transmit on the quietest frequency not the noisiest.
I doubt a civilization will purposely send signals to be heard. More likely, once an advanced civilization first realizes they are not alone, they will then only listen to understand who is out there, but not broadcast to be heard.
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I don't see any reason they'd be forced to choose 1.42GHz.
To say they deliberately chose the resonant frequency of hydrogen, sounds more like a fever dream, than logic.
Add to that, that any radio source is likely moving either to or from the Earth. If their search compensates for the relatively trivial Doppler Shift of a rotating Earth, would it even recognize a red or blue shifted signal?
@@jamesgazin9447 They'd have to account for that, which would help them triangulate the source.
I bet they do account for that.
Looks up John Michael godier or event horizon channel
There is some logic to it, there is very little artificial noise at that level so it's a good choice to send a signal as a beacon but yes the chances of picking a civilization accidently on that frequency is very low
@@MisterCharles2 A Beacon would likely use pulsars as reference points.
I think there is some conspiracy to make conspiracies, or not. But Karl Sagan ate aliens brains. Gotta believe in sumpin'.
Why would any signal be aimed at us to repeat?
Alien vessels run on new physics. It’s thus futile to search RF and that’s why the cosmos is quiet. We don’t have “subspace” receivers…or maybe we do already.
This guy rules
Do we broadcast on the Hydrogen frequency? If not, why would anyone else use that channel? I'm not convinced by the arguments presented.
OMG scientifically illiterate.
It’s ok if you aren’t convinced my something you don’t understand, as long as you don’t pretend you’re making a fair assessment.
The helpful thing to do, would be to explain what Number Free needs to know, since they obviously didn't get it from the video. Rather than OMGing your disdain.....
@@FMDD168 I have a degree in Physics mate. My question remains valid, I believe.
I too would like to get an answer to your question... what is the relationship between hydrogen and these radio signals?
The waste of money we spend on other trivial projects yet the ultimate search and answer we all want to know is dropped. The answer of, are we alone at this time, could unite us as a species.
"unite us as a species"
which is Exactly what 'they' don't want to happen....
Keep it coming, Angry!
I watched Cosmos religiously when I was a kid. I loved the way the guy talk especially when he was saying “billions and billions of stars”.
I gotta say, I wouldn’t be crying if that succeeded
Jordan you are an incredible researcher. Well done!!!
The Drake Equation keeps me warm at night. So I'm alright.
Good episode, thank you Jordan!
Just watched The Royal Institute create a floating plasmoid inside a glass vessel with a noble gas inside.
Love this channel...from Chicago
we are being visited all the time, they are here now
Dear Angry, I've had the dream since Carl Sagan spoke of possibly 50K intelligent life systems in the Milky Way, that one day we would be visited by aliens who would casually declare "We are a 200,000 year old federation of 50,000 star systems..." History reset button activated! 🤣
Congrats on the milestone
Excellent again. Thank you
I also was a fan of the Sagan COSMOS TV show. Amazing science series. Degrausse is grade z wannabe.
I still have my circuit board!
Depends on the amount of switches and toggles and i pick it up towards the west coast, along time ago it was the gulf of mexico
THAT was a "coherent" post. What wisdom! /s
This is the type of video. I definitely like that you do.
Interesting
Because they already know the answer and they’re continuing to cover it up.
Yes, NASA would suddenly be on the top of everyone's priorities, money would flow like the Niagara river into NASA's coffers, the scientists who produced the first proof of alien civilization would rich and famous for a thousand years. Who would want all that hassle? Of course they're covering it up and still living in poverty.
Nice opening sentiment
Angry, to twist Sagan’s own point, if even ONE of the UFO experiences that humans have reported are true, then there are countless alien civilizations visiting Earth right now and that’s the absolute truth of the matter.
I have the entire Cosmos series!
Feel free to read lengthy passages from Carl as much as you like
Once they know we are here they will be coming 😬
As the Television Radio Waves have escaped Earth since the first broadcasts, I fantasies that Entities pick them up and having a favourite one to watch 😊
We know that is 100% possible to be intelligent life in the galaxy because we're here.
The jury is still out on that one 🤣
A civilization millions of years more advanced than wouldn't be using Slow RF communication 😅probably communicating on quantum level
Extraterrestrial civilizations with FTL travel will probably have some form of FTL communication we are not able to detect. We should definitely be listening anyway as other civs ,like our own ,will no doubt be using radio before they become an FTL type civ. Eventually we will make contact, I believe it to be just a matter of time and luck.
If there are two signal transmitters toward the inner Milky Way, doesn't it stand to reason that they might be nearer to each other than to us?
Wouldn't it then be likely that those two transmitting planets might talk to each other such that we in turn would be able to listen in on their signals repeatedly?
Also, my dad once told me that stars twinkle but planets don't. That's how one can easily find planets in the night sky.
We are an outer rim civilization in our galaxy
Sounds cool!
We have ourselves beamed attempted contact signals into space. We have never repeated them, so why should the aliens? - Or maybe their signals only impinge on us by accident.
Nothing will change.
It strikes me that statistically it's possible that various element formations could produce chambers akin to magnetrons which could be activated with a burst of energy from a neutron star or supernova, which evidently won't repeat.
Fascinating podcast.
Disclosure is history whats next is open contact
I love your choice of neutrality due to the lack of conclusive information for either statement.
Maybe they read the "3 body problem" book and got scared of advanced aliens coming to visit us....
Angry you should read "Penetration" by Ingo Swann
Other reasons: There was an "anomalous" metal piece from Roswell, specifically from the Roswell incident of 1947. This was a piece of unidentified metal alleged to contain magnesium with a bismuth crystalline structure inside which produced terahertz radiation which the unknown metal channeled perfectly to produce antigravity effects. It ran the carny circuit for many years, but finally snagged by the AARO, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, charged with rigorous scientific study of alleged alien materials. Why doesn't Avi Loeb schlep all his alien material over there since they are the state of the art in testing of such materials. I've never heard Loeb even mention the AARO.....hmmmmm. But I'm off subject.
AARO tested this material for two years, and answered questions, such as "is this extraterrestrial material from outside our solar system?" and "Does this material have great transmission and waveguiding of terahertz electromagnetic radiation?" "Do those bismuth crystals actually generate terahertz frequencies?" "Do the terahertz frequencies produce any antigravity effects?" Definitively and rigorously, AARO answered those questions. I'll let you find the answers yourself in this footnoted and linked to the scientific papers in peer reviewed journals. this is an exemplary video worth imitating for someone trying to establish the truth about controversial subjects, such as UAPs. ruclips.net/video/J6xtxZwrGLY/видео.htmlsi=ZQml43qw0Iwe2iG-
Why is UFO research so difficult? Because fake artifacts flood the evaluation system, discouraging real research. The alien enthusiasts are killing the research they claim to want.
It's amazing that we expend any effort to find intelligent life in the far reaches of the galaxy, believing that eventually we will find it - out there.
Yet, when someone like Abi Lobe proposes a theory that Omuahmuah might be alien tech, or that the microspherials in the bottom of the sea might be artificial metal alloys that came from outside our solar system, or when the military are forced to confess that there's been unidentified craft doing things outside of humankind's known technical limits, everyone throws cold water on the idea that space aliens exist...
Yes, the conflict between those actually searching for any alien life and those like Loeb, who make no effort whatever but are only interested in notoriety is stark. If Loeb has his way, alien research is over. All you have to do is go to a random spot in the ocean, collect a couple hundred of the billions of similar spheres distributed all over the globe and proclaim loudly that these spheres of formerly molten metal are part of an alien mechanism "using artificial intelligence.":
Rules:
DO NOT tell the public what every astronomer knows, that the oceans of the world and the Antarctic ice cap host billions of similar spheres.
DO NOT send these samples to the military organization, AARO, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, which has the expertise and equipment to conduct analyses which would clearly show whether material was from outside our solar system
DO NOT inform the public of the reasons your wacko hypothesis is probably utterly wrong. Claim with confidence that a garden variety meteor that was in no way remarkable, was definitely from outside our solar system. Billions of iron meteors from interplanetary and interstellar space have left more billions of small sphericals everywhere on the planet.
DO make weird, hyperbolic and sensational claims that you know are wrong, but might fool lay people. Loeb made other weird and wild claims. I’ll quote Dr Monica Grady again from *The Conversation.* _”But Loeb doesn’t just think the material is from space, he thinks it is from interstellar space - arguing “this could be the first time humans put their hands on interstellar material.”_
_”This is simply not true. We have an abundance of interstellar material on Earth. Some of it is almost certainly on the ocean floor, but not in the form collected by Loeb.”_
Real scientists are not shy about denouncing the scientism (to steal a Flat Earthian term) of Avi Loeb. Loeb has left the entire realm of science in favor of grandiose claims having no chance of falsifiability or verification. As Dr Grady said in the conclusion of her devastating article, _”I am not sure what evidence would be sufficiently convincing for this - maybe the autograph of the alien engineer who built the spacecraft?”_ And with that Loeb is drowned by the cavalcade of scientific laughter. He certainly earned it. Immanuel Velikovsky would be proud.
Here's the definitive test to determine whether a scientific paper is really scientific or merely pseudoscientific, like Avi Loeb's. We'll quote an actual scientist, famous for innovative findings that are well researched and meticulously proved. _”For example, if you’re doing an experiment, you should report everything you think might make it invalid-not only what you think is right about it: other causes that could possibly explain your results; and things you’ve thought about that you’ve eliminated by some other experiment, and how they worked-to make sure the other fellow can tell they have been eliminated.”_
_”Details that would throw doubt on your interpretation must be given, if you know them. You must do the best you can-if you know anything wrong, or possibly wrong, to explain it. If make a theory, for example, and advertise it or put it out, then you must also put down all the facts that disagree with it, as well as those that agree with it.”_ -Richard Feynman, “Cargo Cult Science”
And I close with an observation about the OBLIGATION of a scientific paper to clearly explain the reasons it might not be true: a characteristic found in NO Avi Loeb "scientific" paper. _”The less you study a subject, the more possible explanations you can imagine. The more data you have, the fewer explanations explain the data.”_
_”If the police are trying to find out who the killer was, as they gather evidence the number of suspects, through the process of elimination, gets reduced and hopefully they can narrow it down to one. But before they go through the process of collecting the clues, the number of suspects is numerous.”_
_”It’s the same here. The less you study a subject, the more possible explanations you can imagine. But the more you study a subject, the number of explanations gets reduced. That is why it seems to the outsider that experts’ minds are more closed.”_ - Dr David Miano “World of Antiquity” RUclips Channel.
But as we refine our knowledge with new data, Weirdo denialists' fantasy claims are always that our minds are closed, that the ideas eliminated by careful evidence collection and analysis are the most likely to be true. Hogwash. The truth renders all other possible explanations false. One truth: billions of brain farts. That's science.
Just invent a warp engine and the Vulcans will show up 🎉
I though this was Denver views
What was horrible was the lousy shot.
It does seem logic, center of the milky way = more star population = more posible habital planets
Logic isn't truth. Often logic pulls us away from the truth.
Great content. I find the music to be distracting, especially when I'm trying to concentrate on the detail-packed narration, but the content is great.
They are here now and have been here since ancient times.
Radio 📻 🎙 📡 is just radiation. Narrowband could just b our wonderful universe 5:19 ✨️
No one would send a beacon signal only once, unless they could only send once.
That's exactly what we did with Arecibo
Perhaps the Via Lactea people also have tight budgets?
@@JZsBFF Interesting question.
I don't have the answer.
@@MarkBarrett Let's just say that this was a rhetorical question.
I can hear the station chief officer on one of those planets yell to his operator: "Cut that signal! Cut that signal! Don't let those Earthlings hear us. They're nothing but trouble."
@@JZsBFF That is funny. What if We are the dangerous ones?
Funny concept. Makes a bit of sense...
The most interstellar/intergalactic traffic is going to be near the center of the galaxy and around our black hole...especially if you can use a black hole to refuel help slingshot or want to observe it. I know I would.
If the aliens are more advanced than us, they are probably using some sort of realtime quantum entanglement communication. That is if aliens are real and quantum entanglement is real
I didn't know that Extra Terrestrials played WOW, I wonder what guild they are in?
Truest words,keep up the great work,stay angry......😂
we can not be the only species in this galaxy we have barely begun to study the universe there is evidence that can not be explained we just do not have the technology to understand how to find them
What if the sources were less powerful, but close, and moving fast? Like, say, a spaceship passing by.
Imagine being a rabbit whose Warren is close to a rarely-used back road. Once every lifetime or so, a car goes by. Usually they pass unnoticed. But you swear you heard something the other day ... Music from a loud radio. It lasted only moments, then was gone. You go to see what made that noise - nothing but the usual cornfields or trees.
What was it? Most of your tribe thinks you're nuts, except for Great Uncle Wiggly, who says he heard it once, too ... But everyone thinks he's also gone tharn ...
We are only a couple of decades away from ending forever the use of RF signals in spacecraft control, administration, maintenance, and communications.US intelligence is already changing from RF to laser communications. Our entire history of RF in space will span less than 100 years, This is true of any other advanced technology planet. SETI began introducing optical space signal receivers about a decade ago. Every optical telescope has splash areas just outside its optical path where light leaves the optical beam and is wasted. Optical receivers can be placed at these spots and be constantly monitored by fairly cheap computers. Every form of digital light signal can be separated from background noise,