Thanks! If you are comfortable throwing down Outposts, it's viable. I've still not fought the other Starborn over Masada III using the Guardian though. ;)
Nice layout. Looks good. I do hope with the dlc coming they add some more unique furniture that would fit the style of the ship like flooting bed or chairs. Stuff that looks more advance and slick. Like the crafting tables, we have just feel a little out of place. A different variation of them would be nice.
To be clear, there are very good reasons I am not a decorator in real-life. There are likely some pieces that can be staged better than what I did. I lean "practical" with only a dash of aesthetic. I was also mostly trying to sort out if I could use the ship in NG+ runs so once I put something in place, I moved on. :)
Pro tip…if your ship has a ton of items/resources you want to take from ship to The Lodge…load up your character on the ship. Then “Land” at the lodge from space or a planet other than Jamison. It’s like a non-weight restricted fast travel.
I like the beret! The distance between The Lodge and the spaceport was always a hindrance to inventory management. Now you can change the distance to access cargo in settings it should make it easier to balance stocks between what you have on ship and your infinite Lodge storage.
I never have any materials when i try build anything in an outpost or ship. Dunno what I am doing wrong. I collect enough but obviously not. I would love to do something like this but I just don't bother co's never seem to have what I need.
I almost wrote an entire thesis as a reply, but I'll just leave it with "Yes, me too at times. It can be confusing." I will note in the beta there is a Gameplay Option called "Cargo Access at a Distance" Options are: ANYWHERE - Self explanatory, I guess. LIMITED LOCATIONS - Access your ship's cargo at outposts or settlements. NORMAL - Only while near ships. INSIDE SHIP - Only while inside the ship. I'd prefer that "LIMITED LOCATIONS" should be "NORMAL" so I might turn that on going forward. :)
I have a habit of dumping personal inventory into ships all the time. That stopped as soon as I selected the Guardian and it was overloaded. In space too, but on the ground was where it hurt the most. :)
I was curious too. edit: Perhaps I used your question as an excuse to do something we both that was interesting. It's a cool looking ship with a bridge view that's unmatched. It's finally now useful in many ways. :)
Currently (on Steam/PC) you have to open Properties and select the beta (1.11.33). Then it downloads and replaces your current installation. My steam Library now shows "Starfield [beta]". If you decide to go back to the regular game, you select Properties and and choose "None" in the Betas tab. It then downloads again and goes back to version 1.10.31 which just shows as "Starfield". Note, I do NOT assume any saved games from the Beta will work in the previous (current) production version of the game. I back up all my saves BEFORE going to a beta and then copy them back into my Saves directory when I switch back. I've done this successfully, but not tried to load any Beta saves with the normal game. Would rather not risk it. Once it's all released as the current version, all the beta designation should be gone and it will just overwrite your current version with their final update release version.
Interesting , Thank You . I like how you made the guardian into what should be a very versitile and capable ship . I may be sentimental but I would like a way leave the stuff and money . for instance leave an outpost and 1 ship with Lin and ? . perhaps give an endowment to constelation . a random thought , thank you . I know it's a game
The short description is "Investment opportunities for the immortal or those with advanced knowledge." Time travelers (think Back to the Future / sports almanac) have it easier perhaps. Vampires in certain fiction have similar strategies. In this case, I was referring to Connor MacLeod in the Highlander movie. I did assume when you mentioned Lin and constellation you were looking at ways to set up 'future you' as you pass through the Unity. How do we help them and then make it more comfortable for us. Perhaps you were just looking for a way to close out your accounts before blipping out of existence? :) In the Highlander movie, he was immortal and could play very long term investments. Not a perfect fit for Starborn, but there are some striking parallels. As Starborn we have advanced knowledge of fairly significant events yet we can only capitalize on minor points. At a minimum, I would expect that dealing in rare and valuable antiquities would be an option. If we have functioning stock markets (and it is implied), we could also short HopeTech or Infinity LTD and then go through the Freestar Collective and Ryujin quest lines. At the moment we effectively tank their value, we take massive profits. I am assuming Freestar Collective investment regulation is ... let's say "relaxed", and my role in ventilating Ron Hope is ignored when I cash out. The UC might have rules against such things, but given their nature that probably just means paying off the right bureaucrat. In any case, we should be able to make millions quickly instead of the normal quest rewards. In a comical approach, perhaps we take a long position in the manufacturer of the best "red" (or crimson) space suit material in the Settled Systems? After we return Kyrx's Legacy to Delgado and the Fleet enjoys a revival, our investment in bright space suit material really pays off. :) So many unknowns, but all still an amusing thought exercise.
@@kineer That was my thought , get rid of every thing , at least then my Pc knows who benifits . , I know they only exist in my imagination . I like thought experaments. Thank You for the hard work
It's weird to me how Bethesda's idea of game balance is "limited storage" Are you using a mod to keep the hab door open, or have they changed something to allow that in vanilla since I last played?
I just hate the lose everything after unity. We should at least have blueprints for outposts like fallout 76 as it doesn’t make sense we have knowledge of past universes, keep powers but can’t remember outposts. I don’t mind the grind for materials, but just give me the blueprints I’ve had previously to use on other planets.
You lose everything but "yourself" in the Unity. Some would argue you lose a piece of yourself too, but that's a philosophical debate. ;) In any case, all the ships, outposts, money are left behind. I have discovered (following the process I've detailed in my NG+ 200K Start playlist) that I can quickly get up to speed as I level my Star powers. Quite the trade-off, but I've had fun with it. I still keep non-NG+ character around that I play quite a bit though.
@@Currumpaw I see. The Guardian name changes each time and when I arrive it does not contain any decorations from the previous Guardian. I believe it is a completely new ship.
Jeez, first time I ever seen this ship, crazy. ALMOST makes me wish I put up with the game enough to unlock my own Origin 890Jump (Star Citizen reference xP). More improtantly. . . any idea if we can use (many) mods, in this beta build?
Maybe I should have introduced the ship a bit, but it's the one the Starborn fly. You get one when you go through the Unity after playing through the main story (IF you decide to do that). I have a save where I never went through Unity. I have another that I'm sharing on this channel where I'm in NG+ (fifth iteration). It's fun. You get a "Starborn Guardian" in each NG+ game, ranked up through number 6 (VI). Until now I just benched this ship as soon as I could "steal up" to something that could be modified in the ship builder. I have only been using StarUI mods so far and StarUI HUD is broken in the beta. However, Bethesday did say they had sent out kits to existing mod creators already so the is moving ahead. For now I think they are moving from what was a 'holding pattern' to re-working their existing mods to fit what will eventually be official support. Will be great when it happens. My expectations are tempered and I try to not attach dates. :)
@@kineer cheers for the info! Aahh, I wouldnt worry about the mod kit. I give you a guarantee that its litterally gamings Holy Grail (closley followed up by VR)! And it could not get here sooner! How it isnt Todd's no.1 priority is beyond me x. x
Not sure I understand. If you mean 'unlock decorator mode', it's in the current beta version of Starfield. That's only on PC until May 15th. If you're on Xbox, you have to wait but then you'll have a button or the sparkly floating box (on the Guardian).
“Hi! First time caller, long time listener, I’m looking for a Starship with an open floor plan and only have a budget of 200k, can I do it? I’ll hang up and listen, thanks….”
I'm still not sold on their space combat abilities AND I would really need to build an outpost just for storage to even try to use the Guardian over time. Still, it's considerably more useful with the May Update. Nicest views from the bridge and sides of any ship though.
Amazing how in their ultimate wisdom Bethesda make an advanced civilisation ship more rubbish than we can build ourselves , stupidity , the starborn guardian should have been the top ship in the game and levelled with each ng+ like the armour. These people make games for a living yet can't see the woods for the trees.
I like your generous use of the term "ultimate wisdom." I do think the Guardian levels, but honestly since I park it ASAP I never check. Slightly better version of 'not very useful' is still 'not very useful.'
For some people the Guardian is like Windows Edge/Explorer. It's the browser you use to download the browser you want. Well, instead for ships. You get it. :)
Makes me want to use the guardian more now. Looks very nice and clean. Nice job at decorating!
Thanks! If you are comfortable throwing down Outposts, it's viable. I've still not fought the other Starborn over Masada III using the Guardian though. ;)
Nice layout. Looks good. I do hope with the dlc coming they add some more unique furniture that would fit the style of the ship like flooting bed or chairs. Stuff that looks more advance and slick. Like the crafting tables, we have just feel a little out of place. A different variation of them would be nice.
To be clear, there are very good reasons I am not a decorator in real-life. There are likely some pieces that can be staged better than what I did. I lean "practical" with only a dash of aesthetic. I was also mostly trying to sort out if I could use the ship in NG+ runs so once I put something in place, I moved on. :)
Pro tip…if your ship has a ton of items/resources you want to take from ship to The Lodge…load up your character on the ship. Then “Land” at the lodge from space or a planet other than Jamison. It’s like a non-weight restricted fast travel.
Sounds great.
I didn't even think about decorations on the Guardian ship 👍
There's room to clutter that ship up, but I held back since I'll likely lose it through the Unity in a few weeks.
Lately I've been building my main outpost on Heisenberg 5a. I can usually get aluminum, iron and beryllium and sometimes chlorosillanes at 1 location.
Looks great. Tons of structural material too.
I like the beret! The distance between The Lodge and the spaceport was always a hindrance to inventory management. Now you can change the distance to access cargo in settings it should make it easier to balance stocks between what you have on ship and your infinite Lodge storage.
I'm optimistic.
Starborn cockpit is the best
The view is unmatched. It's a shame the rest of the ship felt so inadequate until now. I would now like an infinite storage box like the Lodge. :)
I never have any materials when i try build anything in an outpost or ship. Dunno what I am doing wrong. I collect enough but obviously not. I would love to do something like this but I just don't bother co's never seem to have what I need.
I almost wrote an entire thesis as a reply, but I'll just leave it with "Yes, me too at times. It can be confusing."
I will note in the beta there is a Gameplay Option called "Cargo Access at a Distance"
Options are:
ANYWHERE - Self explanatory, I guess.
LIMITED LOCATIONS - Access your ship's cargo at outposts or settlements.
NORMAL - Only while near ships.
INSIDE SHIP - Only while inside the ship.
I'd prefer that "LIMITED LOCATIONS" should be "NORMAL" so I might turn that on going forward. :)
The Xtra weight doesn't affect anything other than you can't pick anything up I'm space.
I have a habit of dumping personal inventory into ships all the time. That stopped as soon as I selected the Guardian and it was overloaded. In space too, but on the ground was where it hurt the most. :)
I really should have explored my ship more, I had no idea there was so much room inside lol
Same.
Thanks
I was curious too.
edit: Perhaps I used your question as an excuse to do something we both that was interesting. It's a cool looking ship with a bridge view that's unmatched. It's finally now useful in many ways. :)
If you didn't have a coffee machine that would be weird
Even Starborn drink coffee. I'm pretending it's for the crew, but clearly it's for ME!
Very cool being able to decorate ships and the maps, but I want to be able to romance Aludra.
Does the Beta update transfer over to the official one when it releases? Or is it another game
Currently (on Steam/PC) you have to open Properties and select the beta (1.11.33).
Then it downloads and replaces your current installation. My steam Library now shows "Starfield [beta]".
If you decide to go back to the regular game, you select Properties and and choose "None" in the Betas tab. It then downloads again and goes back to version 1.10.31 which just shows as "Starfield".
Note, I do NOT assume any saved games from the Beta will work in the previous (current) production version of the game. I back up all my saves BEFORE going to a beta and then copy them back into my Saves directory when I switch back.
I've done this successfully, but not tried to load any Beta saves with the normal game. Would rather not risk it.
Once it's all released as the current version, all the beta designation should be gone and it will just overwrite your current version with their final update release version.
How many abandoned the Guardian because it had no bed? 🤚 This is soooo much better. 👍
There are a lot of things you can do without, but a bed is odd.
Interesting , Thank You . I like how you made the guardian into what should be a very versitile and capable ship . I may be sentimental but I would like a way leave the stuff and money . for instance leave an outpost and 1 ship with Lin and ? . perhaps give an endowment to constelation . a random thought , thank you . I know it's a game
Now I'm thinking of "Highlander" options. If you are immortal, you should be able to play the system to remove financial constraints.
@@kineer Interesting , What are "Highlander" options. Thank You
The short description is "Investment opportunities for the immortal or those with advanced knowledge."
Time travelers (think Back to the Future / sports almanac) have it easier perhaps. Vampires in certain fiction have similar strategies. In this case, I was referring to Connor MacLeod in the Highlander movie.
I did assume when you mentioned Lin and constellation you were looking at ways to set up 'future you' as you pass through the Unity. How do we help them and then make it more comfortable for us. Perhaps you were just looking for a way to close out your accounts before blipping out of existence? :)
In the Highlander movie, he was immortal and could play very long term investments. Not a perfect fit for Starborn, but there are some striking parallels. As Starborn we have advanced knowledge of fairly significant events yet we can only capitalize on minor points. At a minimum, I would expect that dealing in rare and valuable antiquities would be an option.
If we have functioning stock markets (and it is implied), we could also short HopeTech or Infinity LTD and then go through the Freestar Collective and Ryujin quest lines. At the moment we effectively tank their value, we take massive profits.
I am assuming Freestar Collective investment regulation is ... let's say "relaxed", and my role in ventilating Ron Hope is ignored when I cash out. The UC might have rules against such things, but given their nature that probably just means paying off the right bureaucrat. In any case, we should be able to make millions quickly instead of the normal quest rewards.
In a comical approach, perhaps we take a long position in the manufacturer of the best "red" (or crimson) space suit material in the Settled Systems? After we return Kyrx's Legacy to Delgado and the Fleet enjoys a revival, our investment in bright space suit material really pays off. :)
So many unknowns, but all still an amusing thought exercise.
@@kineer That was my thought , get rid of every thing , at least then my Pc knows who benifits . , I know they only exist in my imagination . I like thought experaments. Thank You for the hard work
It's weird to me how Bethesda's idea of game balance is "limited storage"
Are you using a mod to keep the hab door open, or have they changed something to allow that in vanilla since I last played?
No, the door staying open is a bug as far as I can tell. Several of them do it. :/
When does Xbox get it?
Official patch release is May 15th according to their Steam post.
I just hate the lose everything after unity. We should at least have blueprints for outposts like fallout 76 as it doesn’t make sense we have knowledge of past universes, keep powers but can’t remember outposts. I don’t mind the grind for materials, but just give me the blueprints I’ve had previously to use on other planets.
Great idea. Bethesda definitely likes to reuse things that worked before. Blueprints would be great.
But will you be able to sell the Starborn ships?
So far I've just parked them in my virtual garage and left them. Good question.
Do you know if the decorations you place carry over when you enter the unity again? Or do they disappear?
You lose everything but "yourself" in the Unity. Some would argue you lose a piece of yourself too, but that's a philosophical debate. ;)
In any case, all the ships, outposts, money are left behind. I have discovered (following the process I've detailed in my NG+ 200K Start playlist) that I can quickly get up to speed as I level my Star powers. Quite the trade-off, but I've had fun with it. I still keep non-NG+ character around that I play quite a bit though.
@kineer That, I know. But I was wondering if you know if the decorations you place in the Guardian ship disappear when you go into the Unity again.
@@Currumpaw I see. The Guardian name changes each time and when I arrive it does not contain any decorations from the previous Guardian. I believe it is a completely new ship.
Unless they let you customize the exterior I'll never fly a guardian. It's absolutely the dumbest looking ship I've ever seen
If only we could paint it! Can't a Starborn show some individuality? [I'm joking of course :) ]
Jeez, first time I ever seen this ship, crazy. ALMOST makes me wish I put up with the game enough to unlock my own Origin 890Jump (Star Citizen reference xP).
More improtantly. . . any idea if we can use (many) mods, in this beta build?
Maybe I should have introduced the ship a bit, but it's the one the Starborn fly. You get one when you go through the Unity after playing through the main story (IF you decide to do that). I have a save where I never went through Unity. I have another that I'm sharing on this channel where I'm in NG+ (fifth iteration). It's fun. You get a "Starborn Guardian" in each NG+ game, ranked up through number 6 (VI). Until now I just benched this ship as soon as I could "steal up" to something that could be modified in the ship builder.
I have only been using StarUI mods so far and StarUI HUD is broken in the beta. However, Bethesday did say they had sent out kits to existing mod creators already so the is moving ahead.
For now I think they are moving from what was a 'holding pattern' to re-working their existing mods to fit what will eventually be official support.
Will be great when it happens. My expectations are tempered and I try to not attach dates. :)
@@kineer cheers for the info!
Aahh, I wouldnt worry about the mod kit. I give you a guarantee that its litterally gamings Holy Grail (closley followed up by VR)! And it could not get here sooner! How it isnt Todd's no.1 priority is beyond me x. x
I’m on my ship and it’s not here. How do I unlock it?
Not sure I understand. If you mean 'unlock decorator mode', it's in the current beta version of Starfield. That's only on PC until May 15th. If you're on Xbox, you have to wait but then you'll have a button or the sparkly floating box (on the Guardian).
“Hi! First time caller, long time listener, I’m looking for a Starship with an open floor plan and only have a budget of 200k, can I do it? I’ll hang up and listen, thanks….”
Oh yes, and bathrooms and kitchens are optional. I'm a Starborn and evidently those aren't necessary.
I want to use the guardian but it's so weak compared to others
I like to think it has a place, but tbh I haven't picked it up after the build. Too many better options.
Im not keen on the starborn ship. Just find the interior boring inside but that just my opinion no threats.
I'm still not sold on their space combat abilities AND I would really need to build an outpost just for storage to even try to use the Guardian over time. Still, it's considerably more useful with the May Update. Nicest views from the bridge and sides of any ship though.
@@kineer I'm not keen on the ship controls either. They feel pretty cheap.
Amazing how in their ultimate wisdom Bethesda make an advanced civilisation ship more rubbish than we can build ourselves , stupidity , the starborn guardian should have been the top ship in the game and levelled with each ng+ like the armour. These people make games for a living yet can't see the woods for the trees.
I like your generous use of the term "ultimate wisdom."
I do think the Guardian levels, but honestly since I park it ASAP I never check. Slightly better version of 'not very useful' is still 'not very useful.'
The Guardian ship still sucks
For some people the Guardian is like Windows Edge/Explorer. It's the browser you use to download the browser you want. Well, instead for ships. You get it. :)