The Librarian Visits the Stranger in Echoes of The Eye Supercut
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2023
- Includes special gameplay in the very end ( 1:57:20) ::D
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Full original videos: • Outer Wilds #1 - Leavi... (this video covers videos 13-20)
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I feel really sad that he had to look up the solution to enter the dream world spoiling himself that way, he skipped the third location entirely not knowing it was there
I was thinking the same. How has he not realised yet that if he doesnt KNOW how to do something it means he hasn't LEARNED how to it
That whole part was uncomfortable to watch. Eventually he does take it back through when he sees how he would've learned it
Honestly I did get angry with this guy. He got mad that he googled the final artwork without looking at any of the previous details.
Yeah. You can see the sequence of events that went wrong from his frustration after finding the answer on google. It came from a fixation with achieving this one specific thing, lighting the fire in the artifact, and then narrowing ones focus to exploring just around that. Then getting frustrated that it's an unintuitive and hard to work out answer, when that is the point. There are more clues to find on what to do with the fires and the artifact around the game, so long as you don't drop those threads of exploration and focus solely on solving this mystery before continuing to explore. The whole point of the research chamber is to let you figure out the fires if you haven't already done that when you get there. It boils down to a problem of not allowing oneself to consider "I don't have enough information to solve this now. Maybe I can come back later and solve it after having learned more."
To be fair to him, it's not all a player issue. You could say the non-linearity of the game, while a great strength, doesn't always convey itself as well as it could to the player. Doesn't give enough indication that there are more directions to go explore in, and that you don't need to solve this lantern conundrum immediately. But I don't want to blame the game too much for that, personally I think it conveys the clues very well. Probably being in his first playthrough after so many hours had lessened his patience somewhat. A little different to when you go in after having taken a break between finishing the game and then coming back to play the dlc.
He denounces the idea like 5 minutes before it too, so like his previous previous episode probably😢
"It just trusts that you won't look up spoilers"
Always Sunny episode title drop: The gang looks up spoilers
I feel like Outer Wilds is mostly obvious about everything.. info repeated everywhere, limited game mechanics and interaction potential, but still multiple ways to solve if you're clever.. like, giants deep core.. people get stuck there, watching the jellyfish go in and out, literally the only option, and people still won't think it's the jellyfish how they get in, bumping it with their ship once, shorting out, then giving up.. the game gave him the info, he couldn't put it together, it's not like, escape from tarkov, where if you're not using a wiki and community made maps, you're doomed..
@@StayFractalesque He didn't even _get_ to the info he wanted to know, he didn't _explore_ all that he could before "getting stuck", and if he _had_ he would have found _the place where they teach you how the artifacts work_
You can't call it "getting stuck" if your first response to a locked door is to push on it, slam it, pound your face against it, and google how to open it _before_ looking for a key
@@StayFractalesque I completely agree with you on everything except maybe the jellyfish. I understand that they essentially guard very important information, so it’s not meant to be easy. But you practically tell players that the standing game mechanic for them is that their tentacles spell the end.
I think it’s really not unfair for many gamers to believe that and get frustrated. But most everything else is pretty concisely delivered to the player.
@@Epicawesomeness64 according to him, he legitimately tried searching everywhere for a couple of hours straight off camera and just didn't find the hidden gorge somehow. It's unfortunate but it happens.
It really, really is such a shame that he just googled that solution and got mad instead of just exploring more, as the game had taught him to do up to that point
After finding out about the hidden gorge, he checked it out and apologised for the complaining after realising how he was supposed to find it.
spoilers for the dlc
i love how you could actually brute force the codes in the dream world to unlock the vault, and if you do, the dead body of the Prisoner is actually inside the real world vault with a lit or unlit lantern depending on if you've freed them yet
I was always curious what would happen, but I was never willing to brute force the last code
@@Mr1010121what do you mean, unwilling? .. it's not exploiting for real!.. the developers intended you to "break the simulation" .. it's the only way to win, of course you didn't finish, silly.. lol
@StayFractalesque I meant brute forcing the code so you don't have to die and that way you can exit and see the open prison in the real world. I am aware that you're expected to break the simulation for normal gameplay
@@Mr1010121..not sure what you mean actually, because the burned code and the alarm bypass are separate mechanics.. two different puzzles.. you have to die to open the vault.. you can't open the vault and leave the Sim back to your body..
@StayFractalesque My understanding of the comment that we're both commenting on was that you could keep entering combinations (or look it up online) to shut off the alarm so that you could get back out. And so I was saying I never tried that.
“Hi Chert”
That had me cackling
Me too, haha
"It trusts that you won't look up spoilers."
_looks up a spoiler_
Tbf I think the DLC has a huge problem with that.
In the base game, I had to look up hints a few times. Mainly a full explanation on how the anglerfish aggro worked because "dont be noisy" isn't a great explanation, tbh and a hint on how to get to the ATP because for the life of me I could not find out. But that was a vague hint from a reddit post.
For the DLC, i had to explicitly look up guides on how to go through the dark areas without getting caught and ended up cheesing the hidden gourge dream area. As much as I love the game, the dlc struggles in the area of natural game progression. Especially since my only method of entering the hiden gorge was via climbing a tree near the dam because I didn't realize you could enter it via the laboratory or the river.
@@evilness3404 Nah, Base game and DLC are both fine if you remain humble, assuming it's the games fault you can't figure something out instead of yours is where people trip up. They straight tell you the angler fish are blind, and you kind of have infinite lives, it took me couple minutes to dial in that the angler fish can't hear the ship thrust when the first speed dial isn't lit. You can see the hidden gorge and how to get there by just looking up at it. The stealth sections are just that, stealth sections. If you don't like them you can use the tricks from the first area on the next two. You have a couple minutes to run down to the second archive after the tower gets dunked. You can set up the river raft in the 3rd area and raft over once you've put the lights out, you only need to run past the last guy then. And and if you beat or skip the 3rd area's stealth the glitch you learn there makes stealthing the 2nd trivial.
Outer Wilds only gets rough when you stop giving the game the benefit of the doubt. If you can't figure it out, the game's not bad, you just missed a hint. Like say, a slide that shows the owls going to sleep with the artifact
2:02:36 The moment when you realize VR was invented just so you can hold hands with Solanum.
The slight hug and clumsy hand holding is the best part 😊
When I played in VR and went to see Solanum, the first thing I did was hug her.
Then I stuck my finger in her helmet's eye holes.
Viovayo's hug mod
For anyone who reads the comments after he ended up looking up how to get into the dream world and complaining about the solution, in the next episode of the series, after reading comments about it, he realised that he had missed the hidden gorge entirely, found the intended clues, retracted his complaints, and apologised.
Along with this, he explained that the reason he did so was that he had spent several hours of unused footage searching what he thought was the entirety of the stranger, somehow missing the hidden gorge. Along with this, this was at the very beginning of his episode for that week, so he had basically no usable footage. Assuming that it was just an incredibly obtuse puzzle as he had spent so long searching to no avail with no further clues he could find without the hidden gorge, and desperate to make sure the video wouldn't just be 40 minutes or so of nothing, that's why he looked it up
It's unfortunate, and still wasn't good, but I think the reasoning was justifiable in the context, and he apologised for his complaining, so this youtuber is cool. Just wanted to inform people in case they immediately assumed the worst of him after seeing the googling moment.
Sorry man. Googling stuff for this game crosses the line for me. Stopped watching after that point
@@0ranix Okay, everyone has their tastes, but also I just want to say that this guy is a really cool guy and i'm just sad if people will get a bad impression of him based off a single unfortunate moment he apologised for and had reasonable reasons for. It went very smoothly after that point and he really enjoyed the DLC.
@thomasalsop5571 why the fuck are you taking it so seriously jesus lol. You guys are acting like they killed someone. If most of us were exploring for that long and just missed something, you know you wouldn't have nearly the same amount of patience. This entire comment section is like super immature
I actually feel for him in this situation, lol. I had the exact same problem: puzzle-solving is my jam, but my spacial awareness is terrible, so I, too, missed the Hidden Gorge completely!
Had to ask around on Reddit for a nudge as to what I should do next. People were nice and didn't spoil anything too much, but I felt like a total idiot for missing a huge location, that can be seen by just *looking up* in other locations no less:D
@@igorpostumus looking up was how i found the Hidden Gorge. i did actually cheat by looking up how to get past the Owlks in the Shrouded Woodland because i'd been trying repeatedly and had just forgotten about the ability to move between areas. i feel bad about it, but i was getting frustrated. i also looked up the code to the room that shows the locations of the reel burning rooms but that's because i'd found it and it was in my log but i'd not written it down because i assumed that, like the coordinates and the launch codes, it'd appear on my screen when i went to enter it and i didn't want to backtrack to my ship for something like that. the last thing i looked up was whether there was another way around the Owlks in the Starlit Cove because i hate horror games, even with reduced frights. all i learned was that i'd just have to deal with it
i got into the dream world pretty quickly because i'd been walking around with the artifact, looking for where i could use it, then found the campfire in the Cinder Isles and found nothing left to do but doze off
Googling aside, this was an excellent playthrough between base game and DLC! Librarian seems to be a very nice mix of empathetic and intelligent in his play style!
Sidenote: how has it taken me a dozen lets plays to notice that the slideshow with the prisoner is *_timed to the beat of the music_*
Seems like a nice kid, but this playthrough was frustrating.. not only did he beat the game despite knowing the dlc is integrated into the base, even starting it.. he was also quick to make assumptions that derailed him for long stretches, forgetting crucial knowledge but not checking the ship log, at least correctly.. you know, why did he have to look up how to get into the dream?.. there's only two options at the green fire.. roast, or sleep.. why not try both with the lantern? Seems he dismissed the possibility that was it, so he never tried it, and even hints he saw, couldn't put it together, cause he already dismissed it.. you know, hes one of those gamers that blames the game when he die stupidly.. still raging about the supernova being too soon, after spending 5 minutes standing in one spot making outlandish theories contradicting what the game wants him to do... lol..
Most of the slides are timed with music - there seems to be one chosen track playing as a sort of a refrain and a second, glitchy one timed with burnt slides or introducing thuds on specific (for example, vision of the Eye "going evil" or the Owlks getting angry and burning the temples)
slideshow isn't timed to the music
music is tied to slideshow, controlled by player
@@NoNameAtAll2 The prisoner one isn't, and I meant that it's timed to the _beat_ of the music, nit just that the track changes with the scene
Eelis the geologist, uncovering these hidden gems.
Thank you.
Looking back, I don't remember the nomai having any instruments, save a basic piano program on their writing staff. Music is the one true commonality the Hearthian's and Strangers have.
Due, it was so dissapointing when he started to google for answers; but I had to admit, I googled something also, I know it that I had to die in the green fire with the artifact in my hand, but didn't imagine (enough) a way to do it. I remember my mind went to some very complicated ways to kill my character (like turning off the ATP to actually dying), and then when I found the answer on google of just getting burned in the green fire I felt so dumb and filthy for my overthinking :(
Same here with taking the ATP core to try and die, and when it didn't work I got stuck for an hour or so of just looking at the ship log trying to figure it out. Thankfully the right answer popped in my head eventually. 🎉
For me, the DLC was easier than my first playthrough of the base because I had learned the language of the developers, and how they want me to progress, especially that Intel is everything.. it's like, he forgot what game he's playing.. you never have to force things in outer wilds, it's always an elegant easy solution.. Im uploading all of it soon, lol.. maybe you'll see me on here one day..
@@StayFractalesquewell, going through the Owls in two of the locations was a forcing kind of chore for me but I guess you can plan it out and do it smarter
Same here lmao I thought that dying to enter the simulation wouldn't work on me because of the time loop. Turns out I'm an idiot and the act of dying itself doesn't trigger the time loop like I thought *head in hands*
i googled a couple on the base game but both turned out to be things i had already tried but somehow didn't work (or I missed them working) so I was truly stuck
4:18 My jaw dropped. This game is so well thought out.
hahaha got to be a coincidence
1:27:13 Yes, lol. I think it's one of the reasons the devs added that painting in there. (And why it is also burned down)
Yeah I'm surprised @Eelis didn't know this sooner! **SPOILERS AHEAD**
It's the prisoner's painting of what comes after the end of the vision they had after scanning the Eye of the Universe. It destroys everything but also creates new galaxies/universes. The prisoner saw this and is the reason why he wanted to get to the eye or that someone gets to the eye which is why he stopped the signal blocker.
The ending of this DLC, without failure, makes me weep.
6:48 I never stumbled upon this even though it makes sense, that's why I love watching your replays Eelis thanks !
31:25 top 10 anime betrayals
Yep, that is why you *ask* someone trustworthy when you're stuck in a game. Even if you're not prone to continuing to read after getting your answer, there is always the chance that you don't really understand what you're searching for and get spoiled on other things before finding the specific thing you're looking for.
Pat Stares At's playthrough was the first one I watched after beating the game, and I remember it being quite fun, just in case you needed to add more names to your list ::P
4:12 this can't be real AHAH
bizarre
He pretends to hear the kazoo for the first time too in this episode, even says something like, "oh, are the devs making fun of me for being curious now!? how dare they!!!" ..bruh, like, did you forget what game you're playing?
24:20 A Dr. Strangelove reference? So cultural!
31:20 Rationalizing his own stupidity with 'no, you' whining is not cultural, however. Not only he's on minority but it also shows that he did not explore the artefact lab on the spaceship.
After finding out about the hidden gorge, he checked it out and apologised for the complaining after realising how he was supposed to find it.
@@gavrilovprinciparchive Do you know a timestamp for that, if it's in this compilation?
@@PredatoryQQmber I'm not sure if it's here, I more went here to read the comments as I was one of the ones watching the original let's play. Pretty much his entire commenter base called him out hard for it and explained that there was stuff explaining it he missed, so he went to go look for it in the next episode, found it, found the artifact lab slide reels and the ones showing them sleep, and he was like "oh yeah that was completely my bad, I'm sorry." The rest of the playthrough went smoothly.
(He also explained that he googled it because in several hours of unused footage he explored what he thought was the entirety of the stranger whilst not finding the gorge at all somehow, so he legitimately thought that he had found everything there was, but he had basically no usable content for the outer wilds episode so he just resorted to looking it up assuming that it could only be an obtuse puzzle by that point. It still sucks but I understand the reasoning and if the hidden gorge didn't actually exist, the complaint would have been fair.)
Hey Eelis! Thanks for making these supercuts! I've watched I think all of the Outer Wilds ones so far! :D
Joseph Anderson played the game and the DLC too! The footage exists on his second channel! I've watched the full thing already, but if you want more famous RUclipsrs who've played the game, that's an option! :)
Hell yeah was waiting for this. You're the best dude.
Wow I had just finished watch through the librarians playthrough on their channel then this dropped
Hey me too!
Another Eelis upload? what a good day it is!
Thanks for all the hard work you are doing.
I already started watching his playthrough of the DLC but stopped just in anticipation of this supercut
What a good time to open RUclips, was waiting for this
I was just watching other videos of yours, good timing.
Oof, i cant believe he said all that about the game trusting you not to Google, then went and did just that. You would have thought after finishing the base game one would know that if you are stuck with something you should just keep exploring all you can. Instead he brute forces the artifact puzzle, skips the hidden gorge, then he goes on to complain about the pacing.
After finding out about the hidden gorge, he checked it out and apologised for the complaining after realising how he was supposed to find it.
4:12 bro how
Bailing on this one after he googled the solutions and got really mad at cheating...."its not intuitive!" he says, its not supposed to be a logical leap to snooze at the fire as soon as you get to it with the artifact, youre supposed to learn from the clue in the gorge shows you explicitly this is how they enter...the anger while be totally incorrect on what your anger even was about really killed the vibe on this one bad...
Chill, he explained that he searched for a while for a clue and didn’t find the gorge and was left optionless
Bailing, as well. Gets all upset that the answer wasn't handed to him instead of exploring and finding the clue about it.
distortion2 also finished the game, it was interesting. on his distortion2vods channel there is a walkthrough of the main game and dlc
Ahh him googling the answer and then saying the answer is stupid really rubbed me the wrong way. Guy is cheating, breaking sequence and still calls the solution stupid. Meh
Yeah. Pretty immature. Just seems upset at himself honestly, but too young to have a self-awareness about it.. dont explore thoroughly, don't even try all available obvious mechanics.. standing there with a lantern in his hand, but refusing to even try the doze off, even though clearly seems like a place everyone comes to strap in and fall asleep around the fire together.. like, it's obvious..
@@StayFractalesque I don't see it as obvious at all but I definitely understand the not exploring thoroughly part. I get that the hidden gorge is easy to miss (I mean, it has "hidden" in the name for a reason) but the slide showing the painting doorway shows you that there is another location you need to find in addition to the other two.
as someone who was there for it, afterwards he admitted that yeah it was his fault, explaining that he did it because out of camera he had tried to find it for several hours and simply wasn't able to, and when he saw how he was supposed to do it he apologised and said yeah it was fine.
It's a good day to be a Eelis sub
Always has been
58:57 perfect.
oh wow how fast, you make videos very speedy!
Kinda just gonna stop the video where he's angry he had to google something. Really bothers me that he's blaming the game when it's clear he hasn't explored everything outside the dream world. Very frustrating.
He does regret it later when the game shows him how to do it.
It's a good playthrough if you can get past that
It is very frustrating, yes, but he does later realize what he was supposed to find and apologizes for his frustration.
Not gonna lie, when he said that he googled it, i kind lost the interest.
Exact same here. I stopped watching after that point.
It did suck but according to him, out of camera he had spent several hours straight trying to find the solution to no avail, and once he realised how he was supposed to find it, he was like "yeah that was my fault, not the game's."
And theres why I have to bell enabled on your channel :)
Damn that sucks. It was a huge spoiler too, like arguably the most important and impactful spoiler. Even more disappointing is the mentality afterwards. Like, all he had to do is admit he was wrong. It's fine, we all get impatient sometimes, but it's like he was finding reasons why he didn't make a mistake. "It would have taken me hours to find it"? You just spent hours reading journals! You have the time! (Edit: So he does regret it, and would rather do things other ways. Still, my point stands)(Edit 2: Hiccup aside, this was a great playthrough.)
i had to stop watching after that lapse in judgement with the lantern puzzle, that was painful xP
4:18 waow, just waow
It's sad that he had to Google dozing off. There is another big clue un the lab but he hadn't been there yet. I explored the stranger for a while before figuring it out.. just by thinking of what was missing I looked for the canyon. Sometimes it's better too have the chat backseating than going for solutions because it's pretty sure solutions will give a shortcut or spoil.
54:40 exactly that's waow a chat or a Discord is more helpful than google. only other players will know how to guide the player without spoiling.
Happy to finally see somebody do some VR gameplay
4:11 no fucking shot
31:33 gonna eat those words, have a little more faith in Mobius
ok tiny detail but I was not expecting a Dr. Strangelove reference in one of these (at 24:22)
Googles about falling asleep after talking about the game trusting you not to go looking for spoilers, complains its unintuitive because "you'd have tp know that to even guess it"....well maybe theres somewhere that tells you that, ya know, if you looked around a bit?
Genuinely enjoyed the supercut of his play through of the base game, but just every time he gets annoyed that he googled it to get an out of context bit of info, and is annoyed it doesnt seem to have context, it just irritates the hell out of me and i hope they stop bringing it up and eventually figure out how they learn about it or finish they game without complaining more about their own googling.
Im gonna say, the comment section is way too hard on this guy (in my opinion). Yes solution exists, but an inate downside of a game that doesnt hold your hand is that sometimes there is a risk of getting lost or missing something crucial, this is an innate risk of a game that lacks in direct tutorialisation. And we all only have finite hours on this planet. After a certain point saying "this is not worth another 5 hours of banging my head against this particular wall until i give myself an aneurism for nothing" is perfectly acceptable.
Y'all purist aint got no right telling other people how to play the games they spent money on.
don't understand the hate here. Amazing playthrough, despite google
People don't like to criticize things they enjoy a lot, but as someone who struggled with the DLC i relate to the person playing's feelings regarding looking up guides
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I relate to this guy looking up the answer, when I was playing I spent like solid 3 hours just looking around (even after exploring the lab with 3 chambers) and still didn't get how to do that. I also had to google it and I turned out I've missed just one single slide reel. This guy's frustration is understandable because he didn't even know about the third owlk settlement location
I'll give him a pass for looking something up, he thought he had explored everything and ran out of ideas.
Thanks for the VR bonus content, it looks really fun to play in VR, the jump scares would be too much for me in the dlc
20:30 "That's not what I wanted to wake up to!" Boy is he in for a rude surprise later in the DLC. It's tragic that he spoiled his own surprise by ranting about "bad game design" when the game clearly spells out what you need to do, and drops multiple increasingly obvious hints along the way.
Hate it when people say adventure/puzzle games have impossible puzzles because they were too lazy/impatient to find the hints... and in Outer Wilds of all things, a game with a built-in hint system. It's been this way since DOS days. I can't count the number of times I've heard people (especially game journos) shit on classic games for having "impossible" puzzles, when I know damn well those puzzles were solvable on account of having finished them myself before the internet existed to cheat with. Say you got stuck, admit you cheated, but don't then say the game is at fault because you CBA to actually play it.
31:00 wow, what a loser, now _I_ feel like I've wasted half an hour on this guy 🤦
Arent you exagerating?
@@def2020 no? 31 minutes is definitely just over a half hour of wasted time just to find out this guy's a salty little bitch who ruins fun for himself and proceeds to blame the game for it. Really not sure what I could possibly be exaggerating, it's a rather straightforward description of what happened 🤔
Bruh, thumbs down for looking it up and labeling it "counter-intuitive" and how it "pisses you off". The game makes things like this ambiguous so the odds of you stumbling upon it aren't as likely. Like everyone is saying in the RUclips comments, the more you explore the surface you'll eventually come across a recording explaining this exact mechanic. You robbed yourself of a "holy shit" moment all because you're too impatient to try and understand something: literally the core mechanical idea of Outerwilds.
Even comments like "If we die the tower collapses", like that doesn't make any sense and just makes me think you're the type of player to assume the first thought you get is the right one. I hope this game taught you to slow down a bit and question things because in my experience that's what Outerwilds did to create magic: Take your time and observe and test your theories; literally the scientific method. Appreciate all the careful and intentional design choices the developers at Mobius are showing you.
I just want to say a couple of things.
Eelis is not the person playing.
The Librarian was pressed for time to make an episode and wanted it to not be boring.
He apologized later for searching for the solution instead of how to find the solution.