PAUL OLLIGES GOLFS AND TRIES TO TRIP UP A GUEST | RECAP: 24HRS WITH Josh Benson (Church Chad)
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Morgan asking, “But what about all the violence going on?” and Josh replying, “You mean all the school shootings? With white people?” was GOLD! I love this guy and all the amazing and articulate answers he gave! It’s too bad P&M weren’t really willing to actually LISTEN and consider what he was saying. I hope some of their viewers might consider it, though.
My favorite part 😁
Jish did well in absolutely evading the issue.
A basic white boy complaining about his own people while equally uneducated on the issue.
@@larrymondello7488Said also by a white boy? Are you really one to talk?
Morgan was the first one who was complaining about *other* people while both you and her failing to hold accountability for your own people.
@hanatemonstas4485
Lol, my avatar is a white boy, I'm not..
Never make assumptions about avatars.
School shootings make a tiny fraction of the overall homicide rate in the US.
On the other hand, the fentanyl overdose death rate over the course of 2023 topped around 115,000. I won't go into the travesty of human trafficking and numerous other factors that are the devastating consequences of an open border.
Consequences Josh is too careless to genuinely take an interest in.
A pathetic display of White guilt.
I can already tell why Josh doesn't get as much negative attention. Josh is clearly a lot more progressive and compassionate in his views compared to P&M and instead of listening to why Josh thinks the way he does, P&M attack Josh's views just so they can have the chance to defend their own. P&M, maybe you two should humble yourselves by shutting up and LISTENING and let the series that is supposed to be about OTHER PEOPLE actually be about OTHER PEOPLE and not why YOU think YOUR views are superior to theirs!!!!
Exactly!
Right! It visually obvious that Paul is not listening to understand or “bridge a gap” (over whatever TF their so-called point of these 24-hours with are for) but he is instead just waiting to speak and say HIS part which he thinks is right 😒 so annoying
As a Latin American, the part about immigration has me so fired up. The US owes LatAm a debt it has never and does not intend on repaying. There's nothing abt the immigration "problem" that isn't a US-created issue. Nothing.
How is the Mexican cartel a US created issue?
Can you expand on that a bit?
How is the Mexican cartel a US created issue?
How is the Mexican cartel a US created issue?
So true.
I prefer the recaps because it means I can give my time and attention to you without giving a single second to P&M
Lol same!
That’s fair! Lol
Yes yes agree!!
As an ex-christian, it is so heartwarming to see young, reasonable Christian couples like y'all and Josh and Sydney.
Something that especially bugged me during the abortion discussion was Morgan claiming that abortion numbers are down in states with bans, implying that bans stop abortions. I wish Josh had pointed out that states neighboring anti-choice states have experienced an increase in abortions, so are the numbers really down that much?
I enjoyed Paul's face when Josh said Morgan and his wife are better equipped to discuss abortion. Paul did not enjoy being told he may be less informed because he cannot become pregnant.
Paul gets a very serious uncomfortable face during these discussions because he is experiencing cognitive dissonance. I think his comment at the end telling Morgan, "Watch your language, missy!" was harsher than intended because of his discomfort.
I prefer your reaction videos. I enjoy seeing your genuine skeptical facial expressions 😂
Same! Makes me feel seen and validated because I usually make the same expressions except I curse a lot and I’m no where near as kind as B Haney is 😂
Agreed!!!❤
“That seems worldly to me. It does feel good to tell someone that they’re wrong and that you’re better.” Paul just summed up how his moral convictions work. 🤷♀️ A real quiet-part-out-loud moment.
Really wish someone had called him out instead of just awkwardly laughing. This is exactly what I'm talking about, Some things aren't speculation, he literally shows who he is, and how he feels,all the time on social media. Sometimes I think he's playing It up though.
Like "well, fuck it. No one likes me anyway and thinks I'm a villain, might as well play into it."
Paul’s face when he admitted to loving telling people how to live his life and how his is so much better. Yeah we know you love being a smug know it all.
The less I hear Paul & Morgan, the better, so I’m all for the recaps.
My WftW was that my copy of Leon Festinger‘s A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance came in the mail.
Hahaha that makes sense. Another vote noted for recaps!
That sounds like a fascinating book, I hope it’s a great read!
25:11 Not more empathetic, more aligned with Jesus ❤ 100%
😂 the cognitive dissonance with those two is real
I think you hit the nail on the head - despite all their claims of wanting to find common ground, it really does feel like Paul just wants to catch people out and it makes him very unlikeable
He’s constantly competing to be seen as the smartest guy in the room it’s annoying
@@Meganec3810 and it's definitely not him
@@Meganec3810he's going to have to interview a lot of peoole in order to finally find that person he outsmarts 😂
I feel that Paul is struggling hard core lately...mentally I mean ... cognitive dissonance is a bitch sometimes...I have a lot of empathy for him even though he has none for me 😅
@@scarlettredding you’re a better human than I am although as a former conservative I do empathize with the cognitive dissonance and the mental toll it takes…that would be a heck of an act two if he had a dave moment
Far too much bare male thigh in that video to be talking about women’s modesty.
Ahahahaha facts!!!
For real!
Lmao 🤣🤣💀💀 literally my exact thought those shorts were *short* 👀
Love your hair!! My win finally for the week ( I’ve been waiting to have one 😢) was finally two years after leaving my alcoholic abusive hubby…I’m finally feeling happy that I left and not sad! I’m also considering going back to church trying to find my tribe
Thank you!
And that is an incredible win!! 💛 I’m so glad you’re safe and finally feeling happy!
I do not pay attention to P&M but I would be willing to hear more of Church Chad or Josh Benson. I do appreciate th recap with the clips interspersed. Because I did not watch the video, did Paul ever explain why he felt Trump was the Christian Savior? I appreciate how Josh thought about how the US government works and where his vote goes-I didn’t vote for Hunter Biden. I also know that if Trump gets into office again, we are voting for his family again. He did appoint his family to positions of power.
I much prefer the reaction rather than recap format tbh
My win for the week is buying me and my Mom Dairy Queen Blizzards.
And the ONLY way I could stomach Paul and Morgan is by watching videos like yours and Fundie Fridays, Jordan and McKay and others.
Yum! Blizzards are so good 🎉
I’m happy to be one of your content filters lol
So glad you got to go to church with your family! My win for the week is I finished my antibiotics from an infection from an ovarian cyst rupture. And I'm pain free now!
It seems like this 24 hr with series is more about P&M defending their own viewpoints than actually focusing on the values in common which I thought was the whole point.
Thank you for this recap! I appreciate it because I'm not watching their videos, just yours. I like the reaction and recap mixed in. You showed some clips here and I appreciate that, but I also love hearing more your commentary. Thank you! 🥰
Thank you! And I’m glad to hear you’re pain free now! Ovarian cysts are no joke 😫
That’s what it seems like to me too. I get that they’re talking about topics they disagree on so obviously Paul and Morgan are going to share their opinions but if the whole idea behind this project is to promote unity, I’m not sure how having theological debates with guests for most of the episode does that. These episodes have all been civil thankfully, but it just feels like they close out the episode with the vibe of “we still think they’re wrong, but at least we can spend a day together and they’ll say they enjoyed having us!” Idk I’d rather see them acknowledge that they disagree on things but then go do something like volunteer together to show that what they agree on as Christians is more important than talking about modesty for the millionth time.
@@BHaney Agree! They were able to make videos with Jaclyn Glenn and her husband a few years ago and talk about ways that their marriages were alike and different (mostly alike though) even though one couple is Christian and one is atheist. I don't understand why they can't find more common ground with other Christians.
I totally get Paul wanting affirmation from others, bc ppl being super critical of you as a person must be very hurtful. However, he should maybe reconsider the persona he puts on for the cameras if he wants to be seen in a better light, especially if he is genuinely a nicer person than he shows himself to be on his channel.
That part confuses me! He does not seem super nice on camera so if he’s actually different in person why isn’t that coming through? Maybe he’s just playing up friendliness to the guests.
@@BHaney True! He could be playing it up exactly because he knows he's usually seen as "the bad one" in his relationship and wants ppl to see him differently. But in case it IS genuine that he's a good husband and nice person off-camera, he might want to consider the effect not being that way on camera has on their audiences.
@@BHaneysometimes I wonder if he’s nicer than he seems on camera (though to be honest, I tend to doubt it). If he’s nicer off camera, maybe the character he plays is to cater to more extreme Christians with less flexibility in their views, so that they can get a more solid and loyal fan base. They’re trying to make money, after all, and if you have a loyal following then that part can be easier. On the other hand, I can easily see him being exactly the kind of person he is on camera, but struggling to maintain that while talking with other Christians in person because he may not want to engage in serious conflict, and/or be accepted by them. In my opinion, whichever way it goes, I think it all comes down to acceptance with him.
I find this ironic. Also I’m sorry if that doesn’t make sense or is messy to read; I’m exhausted and have had a DOOZY of a week. Brain is soup.
If Paul turns out to be a genuinely good guy and this was all a show or an act for the camera, It's gonna be the biggest reveal since Snape in HP lol 😅 He's a tricky one for sure. I'm usually really good at reading people, especially toxic or problematic people, Paul has me a bit stumped. He's so beat up, It's hard to tell what he's really like.
My win for the week is that my 84 year old grandmother made it safely through her surgery and no cancer was found in the (much larger than expected) growth! Oh, and the socks that I knit her for her recovery fit perfectly!
As for the video, I personally like the reacts better than the recaps I think. I feel like we get the best of both worlds -your thoughts as well as seeing what you’re talking about- with the reacts, whereas the recaps feel less….personal? Maybe? But maybe that’s because I don’t watch any of the source videos by themselves and instead only watch them through you and your channel, so the reacts feel more like watching and chatting about the video together, to me.
Just a thought regarding recap vs. reaction, have you considered doing a combination of the two? Like a recap with clips from an initial reaction. I prefer the recap style, but I really do enjoy seeing your reactions and hearing what you have to say about something in the moment.
I don’t think it’s that Josh is “progressive.” It’s that Josh went out and asked questions of the unbelieving world and has thoughtfully worked out his faith in consideration of those things. Paul and Morgan refuse to leave their bubble to find out about the world because they are more comfortable with their blanket beliefs.
I commented on his video that it was hilarious that paul said "oh, a more empathetic approach"......😂😂😂 i was like yes paul...thats kinda a big thing w christians. Empathy.
They just continue to prove how young minded they are and how they lack critical thinking. ....like you said, they never delve deeper in their own beliefs or statements. They remind me of a 12 yr old me thinking i knew everything. Lol
Paul reminds me so so much of my 15 16 17-year-old self. Or even into my early twenties. That's why I have a lot of empathy for him.
At the same time, I remind myself that I was a teenage girl and he's a 35-year-old grown ass man.
@scarlettredding exactly. I have grace for those who are ignorant. But he's a grown ass man CHOOSING to be ignorant to fit his own narrative.
I mentioned your point of “why believe in an all powerful God if a tik tok dance is enough to shake your faith” on the Do We Know Them pod comments bc they were discussing people thinking Jojo Siwa was satanic (for her clothes and sexuality). Then I come here and you say it again😂 it’s such a good point never stop making it
A fellow DWKT girly!
I’ve never heard of this church Chad guy until now. He’s gained a fan
Same. And I'm an atheist 😉
Same here!
And also, I loathe Paul more and more. He gets worse with each video 🙃
@@okoala62 agreed!
I've never heard of Josh Benson before, but I am a fan now!
This series is just so embarrassing for Paul and Morgan lmao. Showing us again and again that any random person they pick to interview, is smarter than them.
19:14 It's wild that Americans can make this reasoning for gun control laws but for abortions it doesn't even occur to the. "Oh, criminals don't care about gun laws."
Guess what guys, if someone needs to have an abortion they can get it in vastly more dangerous ways, maybe we should help people not die thanks to laws like these.
I like a mixture of recaps and reactions, and no matter what I’ll watch what you put out!
Love the recaps and reactions from you. I think more clips would be nice for recaps, because your genuine reactions are so entertaining!
My win for the week is I successfully pulled off a move I've been drilling in jiu jitsu! (I immediately got destroyed after but I'm better than I was a week ago)
Also, I did watch this whole episode but there was I guess a lot going on so my brain didn't process this bit til watching this episode but Paul's face at "loyal to Hunter" is SO awful like.....yeah....the dude is loyal to his son and is doing his absolute best for him, even when things have been really difficult. What kind of "Christian" value is making fun of that?
Right?! I’ve been in recovery for like 10 years and the way people like Paul look down on a father trying to support his son through drug addiction recovery irks me…they’ll give mega pastors all the grace in the world for their crimes but no grace for those actually trying
@@Meganec3810it's also frustrating because it's been public knowledge that there were tons of drugs flowing through the White House while Trump was in office. So they'll look down on someone who is in recovery but not on people who are actively abusing drugs. Make it make sense.
My win for the week is getting through my first week of med school
Oh congrats!!!!
maybe try doing a reaction but some more editing to cut out the very long stretches of conversation?
I do enjoy the recaps. I think you give a very thorough recap of a very long video with thoughtful clips.
If people want more, they can just watch the whole video!
It's so clear how uncomfortable Paul is during these interviews. You can see the tension in his whole body. P&M are way out of their depth doing something like this. I've said before, I like the concept of the series, but I feel like they are the wrong hosts.
Sydney and Josh seem lovely.
During the golf course discussion, Morgan said something like "Planned Parenthood doesn't educate women about their options." MA'AM???????? you are thinking of Notable Liar Crisis Pregnancy Centers, which I'm sure you support
Planned parenthood does so much good besides abortion! They do cancer screenings etc. it’s willful ignorance on their part
Wow. So much respect for Josh in regards to the political / abortion chat. Really surprised me
paul and morgan have a kid, right? *who looks after that kid while they are doing this???*
They do! I believe he’s with Morgan’s mom.
Paul and Morgan will never take the steps necessary to overcome the cognitive dissonance that rings through their beliefs. I grew up in a similar environment and it is hard to grow past that “well my parents believe this so I believe this blindly”. But at the end of the day, much of what they are perpetuating is harmful and selfish. They do not live in a Christ like way IMO.
PS: I like the recap style!
I had hoped that Morgan would have reconsidered her stance of forcing birth on involuntarily pregnant women, given the complications she experienced that resulted in her nearly dying, had they not sought help in pretty much the last minute in a hospital staffed with proper medical personnel, people trained in the secular sciences they so despise.
But no. She's still as unempathetic towards other women than before. Unbelievable!
Agreed. However I'm living proof that it is possible for someone like that to change, but you have to hit rock bottom and *want to do it for yourself* no one can make you. You just get so sick & tired of your own shit change and growth is the only solution.
@@scarlettreddingI forget the exact words, but there was a bit from the RUclips channel Cinema Therapy that I think compliments your point; People only change when the pain of staying the same becomes worse than the pain of changing.
I prefer reaction vids, honestly.
On this 24 hours with, I commented saying that I found the "young Earth" discussion...just so strange.
I commented: "The new earth stuff is WILD to me, because that stuff is just factual - it's not like a difference of opinion, we know for a fact the earth is billions of years old....I'd be interested to know what P&M do think about dinosaur bones..." and they responded "Hey, how do we know that is fact?".
I was like "OK, it's a question, I will reply..." so I replied with a National Geographic article explaining radiometric dating. The comment seemed to post but then a couple of days later...was no longer there. I thought, ok, maybe RUclips has an issue with links...I tried to repost, the same thing happened...so then I posted without a link, just with text and the comment was definitely there about 5 hours after posting...but now it's not.
This then happened a second time - I posted a text only comment answering their question and it is now no longer there.
But, the thing is, they haven't deleted the thread and I've made other posts being like "did you delete the comment" / "this seems not to have posted maybe an issue with RUclips" so now there is just....this whole thread of me just being like wait where did my comment go with all my actual comments with a substantive answer to their question clearly missing.
(also if there IS some RUclips thing I'm really missing I would love to know about it, genuinely! Because whilst I appreciate that it is the most likely explanation, deleting the comments is such wild behaviour to me and deleting the comments but not the thread is even more wild).
Paul doesn’t do science when it goes against his feelings
I have experience similar things with RUclips. It now has happened several times that I've given a detailed answers, with the receipts only for the answer to have disappeared. Another time, I'd copied the whole text before sending it off so I wouldn't have to write it all again, but the copy&pasted text (without links) also disappeared - apparently RUclips doesn't like long copies passages.
I've effectively stopped writing longer responses on RUclips because I'm sick of wasting my time.
P&M are snowflakes but I could imagine that the disappearing text isn't their fault.
In the end it won't matter because I think you know as well as I do that they wouldn't care about factual corrections... 😕
my win for the week is that I finally got a job in an ER and I'm starting next week!
i could be wrong, but it sounds like Josh is tiptoeing around the abortion issue cuz I've seen him go harder in defense before. it's frustrating but it is nice to see a popular Christian influencer stand with the pro-choice movement. and it's nice that P & M's audience is exposed to these ideas now, hopefully it gets them thinking
Omg wow good for you! That’s such important work! I hope it goes well!
@@Meganec3810 thank you 😊
I like the reactions. While I like you being able to take it more in and give your thoughts that way, I think it's fun to see your initial reactions and thoughts and then have those other thoughts at the end of the video or throughout.
Win for the week was getting all my friends together last night to celebrate my birthday!
Hey B, maybe you've said so already, but what type of church do you go to? 💛
Ooh, new hair! Looks lovely!
I doubt they are capable… but a delusional part of me hopes they are being humbled as they make this series. They come off as unintelligent and condescending in all of these so far, and they have to recognize that. I feel like in the best universe, doing this series honestly could tug tug at P&M’s deconstruction thread - but who knows. They need so much therapy. 😔
Don't worry the delusional part of me is also hoping for this. P&M are like 2 kids with their hands over their ears yelling "we can't hear you blah blah blah!" This might be even more delusional, but something intuitively has me feeling like Paul is much more inclined to deconstruct first.
What I don't like about Paul and Morgan's series is how fake and performative it feels. It kinda comes off as a PR move. Like they're trying to get the public to change their perception of them by having these conversations with people they mildly disagree with. They probably wouldn't give any time to an LGBT Christian. Idk I don't like it.
Their next video will be with the new evangelicals' Tim Whitaker, who is extremely affirming of LGBTQ though not a member of that group himself. Should be interesting.
WFTW: House Finches built a nest on my porch. I am enjoying watching them during quiet porch times.
Sounds like a dream
Hey B, my wife and I love your channel! We definitely love the direction you took with the RECAP instead of REACTION this time around. They are doing the next 24 hrs with The New Evangelicals, and our request is if you could please do a Reaction instead of Recap for that one? We want to see that video really bad!
I definitely personally prefer your reaction videos but your recap was excellently done! You are very kind, B Haney!
I love Josh I hope paul didn't get to him too bad 😩💚 just started watching. Also I've heard the dinosaurs fossils are from satan thing lol
I liked the chat about Democrats vs Repub... Amazing video as always!
Loving the recaps! My wftw is having a while week off just to myself and I'm propagating some plants this week!
Win for the week is I got to catch up with an old friend this week! Also side note are these idiots aware that large parts of America (like ca/tx etc) used to be Mexico? Like sir please
And that aside from all the native american languages spoken in the US, Spanish was the first European language spoken in the country. Yet people still scream at Spanish spearkers for not speaking English. Sir please take all the seats
@@lizetteoliveros2861 right?! He doesn’t deserve a seat he goes on the floor…
Always enjoy your recaps!
My win: made good progress this week going through stuff in our house as we get ready to move/downsize in a few months!
WFTW: it’s a gorgeous day to take my son outside after a week of snow and rain and cold. Woohoo!
I took the plunge and started designing a sweater to crochet. It's going to be exactly what I want (eventually), and I'm excited!
My win of the week is doing an amazing job keeping my boundaries with a friend this weekend! I’ve struggled with establishing boundaries before and I managed to stay mindful and not overextend myself emotionally! 🌿💖
That’s amazing! Honoring your own boundaries is so important 💛
Win for the week: I’m on day 11 of being on an inpatient eating disorder unit doing my best to leave this crap that has stolen 20+ years of my life. The win is that, even though my brain has not stopped screaming at me, with the ED voice telling me I’m a failure, or an imposter who isn’t “sick enough” to deserve this care like everyone else here does. AND, I’m still following through and doing things that feel impossible. But I’m freaking doing them.
Good for you! I’m glad you’re getting help and I hope it gets better!
Thats a great win! Sending all the good vibes.
@@Meganec3810Thank you so much! Just taking it one day at a time.💕
@@misspiano1595Thanks friend, I really appreciate the encouragement.💕
I know this is an internal process and a random Internet stranger's opinion may not be a huge influence but let me just say you are worth being treated and taken care of, you are worth getting better, you are enough exactly as you are, you are not a failure or an imposter and I wish you all the best kicking your ED's ass 💜
This is fairly off-topic, and I'm typing before I watch, but I just found out that Rhett and Link (from Good Mythical Morning) have been discussing/dissecting their personal deconstructions from Evangelical Christianity on their podcast Ear Biscuits. They've been talking about it for years, but I only just found out. It's an interesting listen, and I immediately thought about you and wondered what you might think of it.
I'm sure you have more than enough to do, of course, so I apologize in advance if this comes across as pushy or brash or some other word that I can't pluck out of my head!
I’ve never watched Good Mythical Morning but I’ll have to check out their podcast! Deconstruction stories are so personal and can be painful to recount so I always appreciate people being willing to share theirs.
to second this, i found their stories fascinating! i watched all the episodes (they're quite long)
@@allynotallie1 I completely agree! They're really interesting people. I had seen their silly videos, which are fun, but listening to them speak about more personal issues really caught my attention.
Rhett and Link did an interview with Phillip DeFranco not too terribly long after the initial set of podcasts about deconstructing. They talked more about it and about reactions to the podcasts. I really appreciated it as a follow up- gave me a lot to think about. Might be worth looking up!
@@creative_thimble560 Oh, thanks! Was it on DeFranco's channel or R&L's?
With the whole evolution thing, i think its important to keep in mind that the number 7 is symbolically significant for ancient Jewish people, so the author could be using the number 7 more symbolically rather than refer to a literal 7 days. This is why understanding the Bible as a narrative rather than a literal rulebook is so important for Christians (imo)
You would think that upon coming up with an in depth documentary style series P&M would bother to look up the evidence for their own arguments
My win for this week is that I had an insanely busy work week and my fiancé did so much for me while I was busy, including picking up our marriage license for our wedding in 3 weeks!
In terms of the reactions vs recaps, I feel like it depends on the video (I know you do the reactions cold so that’s not super helpful). I watched the full video with Josh and I felt like it dragged sometimes so I think a recap was the right choice, but I would like a full reaction to their upcoming video with the New Evangelicals!
It’s so nice your fiancé was able to do that for you, especially getting the marriage license!! How exciting 🎉
That makes sense! And preference noted for the next 24 hours with 😊
I agree with this suggestion! I really liked this format for this particular video. And loved that you did include some clips, but mostly recapped. I'm pumped for the New Evangelicals video and really want to see every minute of that! Also glad we saw all of the Dav and Bethany video because that was super interesting.
omg i have never been this early to a video, love the fit!! watching now :)
Thank you!! I hope you enjoy the video ☺️
It’s so clear Josh is a feminist and I LOVE it haha- he’s so tuned in to Sydney and smiled right when she said “can we just once hold men accountable without bringing women into the conversation?!” You sense her exasperation and Josh seems to truly empathize and understand her point
I like both reactions and recaps! I really like hearing YOUR opinion though, so I would say I vote for reactions or recap + your opinion. I like how the sound is more consistent in a recap. I have to adjust my volume a lot during the reactions when it goes from you in your office to a clip of p and m.
The win for the week here is waking up every day lol when it’s been on of those weeks, you really do need to celebrate the small wins!
I will say with regards to the abortion segment, I'm surprised that it didn't seem to occur to either Paul or Josh that part of the reason the abortion rate is going down in states where it's illegal is because the people who can afford to do so are just going to states where it is legal to have it done safely. Other than that and finding some of the immigration conversation really questionable and needing more care than the three of them seem willing or able to give the topic, I thought Josh came off looking pretty good overall here.
I prefer to watch your reaction. I like watching the video with you and not giving views to Paul & Morgan.
I think I preferred the live reactions over the recap for this series; I think I really appreciate getting to see exactly what paul and morgan and the guests say and your commentary on it, rather than having p&m’s words summarized, purely just because they do say some tumultuous things and even with your (excellent) summary, I think the words have more of an impact when we get to hear the tone and way they were delivered in, that type of thing; excellent video though! that’s for covering it!
I had a major surgery that had some complications. However, I am on the mend (slowly) and the kids are allright.
I prefer your reaction videos but I did still enjoy the recap. I like getting to see your first hand reactions to the insanity because sometimes I find myself making the same face and it makes me laugh.
Thanks for your sane take on all of the fundie influencers. Not a Christian myself but it makes me happy to see individuals like yourself who practice religion as a personal thing and not as a way to police behaviour. You seem to have a very healthy relationship with your religion, especially in comparison to people like Paul & Morgan. You provide great context for bible references I don’t fully understand and I’ve learned a lot watching your channel.
Closer by NIN is a religious song. It's a nice song about a man trying to get closer to god.
Mad respect to Josh for doing this and being so kind and patient 💚 *also I was homeschooled still love him lol* trying to have these types of deep conversations with Paul and Morgan feels like bikini shopping in December 😅 frustrating, disappointing, and a complete waste of time. However I do give them credit for even being willing to do this with a progressive Christian. Nvr thought I'd see it happen, but they definitely didn't come off with sincere intentions. Seems like they are still in their black & white authoritarian mindset of "we're right. You're wrong." Smh
WFTW: Finally getting back to my training (Tae Kwon Do) as well as other means of exercise.
* Of COURSE they would question "if he's been saved". They're of the ilk that if someone doesn't believe EXACTLY the way they do, they suspect everything!
* It doesn't surprise me in the least that P&M are "new Earth" believers. For as much as I have faith, I will not discredit Science! I think it was some famous scientist (who's name escapes me)said: "Science tells us how The Heavens work, and Religion tells us how to get to Heaven", or words to that effect.
* I might have to check out this Josh person....he certainly sounds more grounded than Paul. Paul is ALWAYS trying to go for the "gotcha" moment, but fails miserably! He's looking for a chance to sound "holier than thou" and feed his gargantuan ego!
* P&M's cognitive dissonance prevents them from getting that "wait-a-minute" moment.
* P&M need to be called on the carpet for to deliver examples instead of spewing their usual rhetoric.
* Paul's fragile ego is his biggest flaw! He's so self-centered, it's embarrassing! No, BE HARSH, B!! Let that cynical flag fly!!
Paul and Morgan are so immature in my opinion. Josh talks about how he behaved when he was younger (I assume early 20s) vs how he sees things today and how he’s grown up since then. From where I’m standing, it doesn’t seem Paul or Morgan has been able to do that. They still seem like petulant 16 year olds who know everything and everyone else is wrong.
Josh seems like a very reasonable guy, he takes others feelings and thoughts into consideration. He’s able to point out when he hasn’t been the best version of himself and that his behavior and thoughts have changed. He also seems very respectful in his pushback to Paul. While mine and Josh’s world views don’t align, I feel like I’d be able to spend 24 hrs with him and walk away as friends.
My vote - I prefer your watch alongside vs the recap :)
Going to be honest: Morgan seems to have actually regressed. She used to stand up for herself to Paul or show more autonomy, self awareness, and personality in their older. Nowadays she is alot more defensive, aggressive, always defending Paul, and generally very ‘mean girl’ catty.
Paul I think has matured a little from his past in that he can somewhat engage in satire, but not well, and the bar has been very low that this is where he is at.
I like the recap, but prefer the reaction - I loathe hearing Paul and Morgan's voices, but love your genuine reactions. Also, I personally feel like it's essential to hear what they have to say direct from their mouth.
As someone who has a ruined self image from modesty culture and really bad relgious OCD around issues like "secular" music, i think the whole thing just needs to be dropped. Let others live by their convictions, live by your own, and shut up unless your saying something to build them up and love them. So pretty much all of P&M would be silence, they are way too concerned with how OTHER people live their life.
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I enjoy your recaps of Paul and Morgan more because I just can't listen to Paul talk for very long. He makes me so angry 🤯
I personally prefer reaction vids but I loved this too and will watch them regardless! I love hearing a Christian who’s more progressive and down to earth like my husband and I’d take on this series. P&M’s idea is good, but I feel like they can’t help but get their egos in the way. I hope that somewhere down the line in this series they can actually take what the other people are saying to heart and realize, as you said B, which of them is being g TRULY Christlike. But I’m skeptical they could actually humble themselves enough to ever get there!
Okay I don’t believe in god and never have and I’m a little biased cuz I love Beyonce but calling BEYONCE blasphemous is so wild. Like the lady who thanks god at EVERY award she receives? Shouts God out on damn near every song? Like are they mad that she talks about sex with her HUSBAND?????? She literally just dropped an album with a song called Amen. I think they’re just racist honestly
Hi B - just one person's thoughts, but I like when you react to the video. I don't watch their content (refuse to give them my views) so seeing the video filtered through you is my preference. 😁
Re: video style - I think I prefer the reaction style videos, but I also like that this style of video allows for you to cut through some of the fluff.
So I guess my comment isn’t particularly helpful? Sorry.
Re: Porgan - I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt (not necessarily a good thing, unfortunately) but I really want to believe they are doing this series to “bridge the gap” like they say it is, or whatever. Echo chambers are bad and them going out of their way to have these conversations, and expose their viewers to those conversations, hopefully only does good. I don’t know if it will ever impact how Porgan think but maybe viewers will have their worldviews opened up or have seeds planted.
I think I prefer reaction format! I’m not the best at processing audio so I get pretty lost on who’s saying what & what’s going on without hearing the switch between voices talking…if that makes sense 😂
And plus-I like to be able to see body langue & hear tones (especially with Paul) to get all the nuance. And reaction videos is a great way to be able to see it all without actually giving their videos views
I just listened to one of their lives bc of this video and Ive never watched before- does Morgan always sound like she’s high as a kite?
Yes she does. That appears to be just how she talks.
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Paul isn't giving Josh a compliment when he calls him more empathetic. I've seen a lot of conservative Christian men characterize empathy as a weakness that prevents them from telling people the supposedly harsh truth of the Bible (ie, you're going to hell). It's almost like they think they were commanded to tell everyone the bad news instead of the good news LOL
Your hair is darker! Pretty! The blond was pretty also though.
I feel like Paul and Morgan simply CAN'T have a middle ground on anything. They always want to be above others and be "correct" - even when they are clearly wrong! I would never watch their series without commentary since they frustrate me so much. I really think they are cruel, tone-deaf, and rude in so many ways and it's hard to watch their content on its own. I'm so done with them. I appreciate your video though. I really like you since you "prove" that not all Christians are like Paul and Morgan.
I'm sorry but why is Morgan always so aggressive?? Like, you guys are doing this TO hear from different perspectives... Why is she even threatening to punch someone in the face when you're supposed to be having a calm, mature adult conversation
I prefer the reaction, personally.
Hearing you narrate sections wasn't really helpful.
The reactions for me are often a way to hear whats going on without actually having to engage and support the content. also keeps my mental the health in check by hearing a more moderate perspective and not seeing the comments is a bonus too.
my win for the week, i’m pregnant and about to be a first time mom. My partner and I were both able to feel baby kick for the first time🥹