What If WWI Ended In Stalemate? | Alternate History
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- What if the first World War, rather than ending in a Triple Entente victory as in our timeline, or in a Central Powers victory as others have speculated, instead had no definitive winner, the Great War ending in a stalemate.
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Please remake what if Italy and USA joined the Central Power!!!!
I probably will.
If you have ever heard of the Agadir Crisis, I suggest making a video about if the German Empire was granted Agadir. (Agadir is a state/city in Morocco)
What if the Greater German Confederation was formed in 1849 by a union between the Hapsburg and Hollenzoren houses .
if you have an actual discord account, id love to have a conversation some time
This would be a great hoi4 mod
Someone best get cracking on it.
@@MonsieurDean you heard him boys get to work
Red flood
basically red flood without the drugs
"Endsieg" my personal name proposal
What if Australia won the Emu War
The displaced Emus, desperate and broken, establish a fascistic state to reclaim their homeland and forcibly remove the Aussies. Of course, Japan backs the Emus in exchange for a portion of Australia. Germany, recognizing Emu's as the master race of bird, supports them in their goal of establishing legitimate rule in their domain, and annexing the Kiwis.
@@MonsieurDean
The award for comment of the year is yours
@@MonsieurDean You completely fail to take into account the Cassowary Peril.
I keep seeing you
Seig Bird.
Here's a dark alternate history: What if Chernobyl wasn't detected in time by other countries and as a result was not stopped, resulting in the radiation spreading across all of Eastern Europe?
I'd really need to look into that one.
I'm kinda confused, what do you mean by "detected"? Do you mean if the Russians hadn't told anyone about it and kept that massive fucking explosion that killed thousands secret? Because radiation did spread all over Europe, they sealed it off later on after the brave sacrifice of several Russian teams turned the reactor off. So what your saying is if the reactor wasn't turned off and for some reason they didn't bother to do anything about it? Thats interesting but makes no sense, the Soviets knew what would happen if they didn't stop it so they basically told their guys that if you don't do this were all fucked, even if it means you die so them not bothering to do anything bout Chernoble is just bonkers not to mention the reaction the rest of the world would have if the societs just let that thing sit around and spew radiation into their nations.
@@twojacksandanace3847 I think the more interesting version would be if the predicted second explosion had occurred and the 500km dead zone occured (rather than the current 30km exclusion zone). This second explosion was pretty likely and was only averted due to the sheer resources dropped onto the reactor, and the tunnels made to secure its underside. It's interesting as the 500km dead zone would be in the heart of the USSR and would have huge knockon effects across the world
@@jamesmclean478 thank you!
considering that the radiation reached the UK id say that is what happened
>27 minutes
Ah yea thats hot
Well damn, this is a reboot, I guess technically that does make this rewind time.
Lmao
Germany for 7 times (1915): this war is going nowhere, we need to stop this massacre!
Triple Entente: *no*
while germany is in french land and occupying some of frances most industrial land.
More accurate:
Germany for 7 times (1915): Let's stop the war, because our plan failed and we want to try again later on without much consequence. Plus, we've occupied several countries and we want to keep those territories.
Triple Entente: no
@@juliank6793 idk seems fair to me
@@juliank6793 incorrect
@@juliank6793 is this peace treaty in the room with us now?
Pope: You're both going to your room.
Central Powers: But I didn't start it, he started it.
Entente: I didn't start it, he started it.
Pope: I don't care who started it, your both going to your room.
Lmao
You’re*
@@IsaaacWithThreeA a discord mod
@@mhyc22 Discord Mods don’t correct people, they simp for girls.
@@IsaaacWithThreeA fair point you win
I have an idea: WHAT IF THE WESTERN ALLIES REACHED BERLIN FIRST?
Could this have been achieved with a successful Operation Market Garden, giving the Allies a straight shot to Berlin?
Clyde Steele Maybe, we know Patton thought he could have reached Berlin had central command allowed him to push North through Bavaria.
Perhaps the Soviets shift their attention eastward instead.
@@MonsieurDean rip Korea and Japan
@@clydesteele2925 I think mainland Japan would be fine if the US navy doesn't get involved
So Kaiserreich but without Syndiclism?
Now that’s something I can get behind
Basically yes
And without german colonies *sniff* I'll miss you Mittelafrika *sniff*
Tokisaki Kurumi Don’t forget German Ost Asia too. TT
Aw, some of the coolest shit is gone now!
I love how Japan is minding their Own Business.
Needs a part two.
Totally agree.
Until you're country is attacked by the fire nation.
last time japan was left alone they resorted to killing each other instead
They actually where capturing some German colonies in the pacific bit didn't to that much
"minding its own business"
"conquering a third of the world's contemporary population"
right
*Monsieur Z Wants YOU To Like And Share The Video*
Nah I'm good
Sir yes sir
Jesus... just imagine Great Britain and the German Empire together. I pity every nation that goes against them.
Oh god its the seven years war but they are both bigger and stronger
Funnily enough, that was exactly the proposal that Germany’s army took to the British leaders in the early 1880s. “Imagine your magnificent Navy and our invincible Army…! Nothing could stand against us!” They did use the Battle of Waterloo as an example.
All hail the Nation of Z!
US of Z!
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When Japan seems to do a lot better when the entente doesn't actually win ww1
The world in general seems to do a lot better when the entente doesn't win WW1 lol 😅😂
Japanese facism was a result of the western powers treating Japan as inferior after ww1 so it makes sense.
@@the99throgue25 same with Germany and Italy when you think about it
@@れいい-q2m idk about Italy but Germany was .
@@the99throgue25 Italy was denied most of the land they were promised by the greater powers
This is probably my favorite scenario you've made, a novelization or more extensive lore in general is definitely in order
Thanks, pal.
Heres an Idea
What if the Chinese Civil war ended in a stalemate?
Two Chinas. I suppose if the divide happens post-WW2 you'd have the Communists concentrated in Manchuria whilst the Nationalists hold out the South.
@@MonsieurDean Two Chinas? Sounds familiar... *Cough* Taiwan *Cough*
This fella gets it. It'd likely be a more prosperous, albeit militaristic state, at least until it's western allies encourage it to reform. Communist Manchuria doesn't seem like a model for success, it may as well be annexed into the USSR or North Korea
Monsieur Z So it would be a bigger version of North Korea
@@gametmane1093 Let's have a Korean Kingdom Reunion.
That is a cursed Thumbnail
Damn skippy it is.
@@MonsieurDean Damn Skippy, nice
@Adolf Hitler Hi Hitler?
Funny thing, Bulgaria litteraly lost one battle for the whole war and that was it for the entire Central Powers.
No
"The War to end all Wars", *laughs in World War 2 and 3 possibly now*
@Danzard the memes are depicting the American missile attack one the Persian general (name hear) ass the start of the 3ww
@@funtimefredboi3877 don't call them Persian, they're Iranian lol.
@@funtimefredboi3877 thought it was China v India timeline
@@1.3mviews64 Iran is Persia, its the persian Name.
@@1.3mviews64 no they may call themselfs Iranian but just because it Hass Manny Cultures in them Persian being one of them he is Persian and irianien
Like im being A Rheinländer and German
*The Rome saga has ended* 😥.
*Monsieur Z gives a reboot to your favourite scenario* 😀
*Hes remaking the moon vids and said that he'll do other ancient nations* 🤩
Monsieur Z delivers.
Yes he sure does
Finally a good emoji comment
Italy would need to pump in good troops to help Greece magically beat Bulgaria. The other Balkan allies of Greece wouldnt be in such borders and the Serbs wont do a thing. Italian soldiers wont do shite to Bulgarian army unless they come in quantity of 600k with Greek army too. Even then its debatable they would win.
Wtf
I personally feel the treaty is so heavily favoring the Entente over the Central alliance. Germany loses all overseas colonies, Italy gains land across the Adriatic and Albania, and the Ottomans still get carved up. While the only gain the Central alliance gets is Germany gains a little land in the Baltic’s even though they should have had their separate treaty with Russia.
This would be essentially a status-quo treaty with all gains during the conflict remaining. The allies had already taken the German colonies in Africa and New Guinea and so would be extremely reluctant to return them.
It would essentially be a permanent armistice
@@dertery8724 I mean, Lettow-Vorbeck was still a pain in the ass for the Entente throughout the entire war. Also, I doubt Germany would give up their colonies that easily, I see them being reduced but not fully taken.
@@frederickoftheartic2209 In real life Germany never gave up their colonies, but lost them in fighting. They would have no choice other than to give them up in any practical sense.
"What if WWI ended in stalemate?"
It effectively did. the armistice (which itself was loosely enforced at best) alongside the redrawn borders gave all sides time to re-arm and prepare for the much deadlier *WWII,* which would be the deciding factor. the only difference is some countries changed teams during the interwar period.
What if the Carlists won the Spanish civil war?
@Will DeMarco They did. But Franco sidelined the more radical elements of the FET y de las JONS because he wanted to establish good relations with the West, who would tolerate more "moderate" fascism/Francoism because he was very anti-communist
If the carlists won truly with out the fashie turn the crown of Spain would’ve been back
Twenty seven minutes twenty six seconds. Oh boy.
Howdy, pal. When's the next compilation video?
@@MonsieurDean I'll put one together soon!
Best alternate history channel
Yep😊😊😊
Yeah I prefer this channel over thealternatehistoryhub channel.
Why this is impossible:
ALSACE LORRAINE
But what if Alsace Lorraine had a twin sister?
Monsieur Z Rhineland Lorraine
[Laughs in Elsaß Lothringen]
*Elsaß-Lothringen
@@MonsieurDean How about this? You take Alsace, we take Lothringen.
America & Japan Vs Britian and Germany in WW3. A very interesting take
Most of America and East asier against the rest of the world
America and japan would win if no one else got involved
@@indominus9867 japan would get its ass kicked and i doubt that America would go that far into war with Germany and England i could see England losing the Caribbeans and o Canada
@@lance51542 that would surprise me. You gotta remember this a situation where the usa never joins ww1 or sells weapons in ww2. Its industry was a lot weaker than the UK because of this, let alone if we are counting the industry of France too (franco British union) and that of Germany.
@@lance51542 japan has a pretty well trained military and if I'm correct is larger then Germanys.
There navy is also one of the best in the world.
Thr UK barely has a navy and its ground forces aside from the SAS is pretty laughable.
When you said New German Century, my mind immediately did this...
*ERIKA!* *bom bom bom*
Is it just me, or does this scenario end in a very similar manner to how the geopolitics of George Orwell's 1984 is described?
Apparently, based on three years of no replies, it's just you. However, I just found this video and my immediate thought at the end was 1984 so it is now two of us.
@@Fred_Lougee Nice
At last, the No Anime timeline.
Are we getting a reboot 👌🏻😁
We made it grander and better than ever. I'd really appreciate it if you helped us share the video around to get it some extra attention.
OK 👍
And thank you
@@MonsieurDean make a reboot where much of A&H remains. Greek empire? It's a joke. It must be a huge Italian army attacking Bulgaria. At such alternative where Bulgaria gets the land it held at the time it would have no neightbour except Turkey being able to match its army size. The Serbs will be dead out of war for next 15 years since they wont be Yugoslavia but half size. Plus stop bullshiting here with these so called Free states. A stalemate in 1916th to 1918th or so means a general win for central powers. They lose overseas colonies but gain territory at expense of Russia and some to France and on Balkans A&H and Bulgaria be sharing a fine cake. The Ottomans would be the only loser there since they were being pushed so much while non other was like that bad from central powers.
We still doing the #BestAlternateHistorian hashtag?
Thing is when I click on that hashtag there aren't even any Monsieur Z videos there all Whatiffaithlast bokoen 1 and alternate history hub
What if Zanzibar didn’t join Tanzania
It's always a pleasure to see you in the comments.
@@MonsieurDean no it's not, don't support imposters.
It would still be a shithole.
Then we would be calling Tanzania it's original name Tanganyika
idea - instead of predicting how the past could have been, what if one predicted how the future can be
The Police State is inevitable
bigfish92672 not if you fight it.
@@swampdonkey1567 bruh just become a policeman in police state
Begins softly playing rule Britannia what if France was balkanised after the napoleonic wars? Please like so he can see
Bulgaria was not defeated by Greece. There was a very strong Anglo-French contingent in nowadays Greek Macedonia. The Bulgarians were repeatedly attacked with overwhelming force in 1916, 1917 and 1918 until the breakthrough in late 1918. Interestingly enough, the collapse of the Bulgarian front was not the final battle there. The British rushed forward through southern Bulgaria but were soundly defeated. The Bulgarians then agreed on conditional surrender. They would allow Entente troops through their territory but Bulgaria proper was not to be occupied.
They were defeated by French cavalry lmao
Z: Makes a reasonable plan for Roman restoration
Me: A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
Z: Shuts it down hard
Me: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent
What does this comment mean?
Shuts it's down hard
@@TheHatersarebad It's on about how Mister Z teased us with an Italian Roman restoration movement which could actually work, but than killed it
Italy needs back up from other European powers. Greece wont be doing shite to Bulgaria in this alternative. A 200k Greek army at time could be smoked by 150k Bulgarian army. Bulgaria traditionally raised up far larger army in timeline. With a general win its population could be nearly twice of Greeks population. Other Balkan allies? Yeah nonexistent Yugoslavia and a nobody Romania. Greece becomes great. It magically happens that Bulgaria has no ally anywhere and the Italian peasants get what they want wherever they like.
What if the Monarchist party won 1933 german elections?
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Ww2 woulda been not a thing
Alt-Alt history-
So there’s a browser game where you alter world events and mess with the timeline. One thing you can do is extend ww1 to basically the 1000 year war. Obviously absurd as it’s supposed to be but that gives the idea of what if the war just settled into a less aggressive war and the trenches became the new borders basically. Eventually with the static borders but perpetual fight might either lead to shifts in combat technology or tactics by countries or a shift to espionage or civilian economies to try to make their nation the most self sufficient, efficient, and stable nation on the principle that something is bound to happen with time and your trying to survive the long haul but in terms of lifetimes. I could maybe see different nations evolving down different routes. UK might attempt to make a static defense around the North Sea by building sea platforms to act as sub detection and a defense bastion and well avoiding the inevitable constant loss of life from ship based blockades. France might plan to take control back of their lost territory in the long run so possibly to secretly thwart trenches they would dig underground tunnels below a detectable range, then planning mass explosions below entire lines of trenches. Germany would I suspect invest in civilian industry due to the blockade and try to suffice for their shortages. As Russia would peace out and likely become communist as the other powers are preoccupied, they may make faster advances in increasing the standards of living and general well being as they would interact much less with the war. To round it off for this to happen the US would have to likely not intervene so it may simply sell to the waring powers and maintain great economic growth threw weapon profiting and as they may end up interacting the most with any of the warring factions they may be the hotbed for intelligence and espionage. This is a fairly unrealistic idea but I just liked the concept so wanted to mention it.
Vex what's the game called
Vex what's the game called
I also want to know the name
Shall we get the sauce?
Is that Eu4 or Hoi4????
So basically, you've created
Command & Conquer: Imperial Alert 3
(Except replace Soviets with Imperials)
red march to imperial march, step aside star wars
You are made of stupid
George Tekai as Emperor Yoshiro
Also that would be beautiful
WWI Alt hist is definitely some of the best. So many scenarios based off who wins and loses or in this case a stalemate
What if futurism replaces fascism, aka the red flood timeline
Will look into it!
I like to imagine Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, famous Italian poet and founder of the Futurist Party as leader of Italy in this. Let's say futurists become a big movement and take power in Italy and establish a dictatorship. That would inspire futurist movements in all the world, just like fascism and bolshevism did with their own ideology. It would be a fascism looking forward to the future instead of backward to the past. Its hard to predict a lot, but I'm sure they would do many crazy laws and things
Ivan F. It’s more crazier, look into the lore, no one won ww1, and France collapsed and some batshit crazy actor control and turned into a futurist state where he faces many rivals and let me not get into russia
I don't think that without german and italian support, the nationalist side would have won the civil war in Spain. The Republic had superior resources, manpower, and had the support of the Soviet Union. Also, France and Great Britain were keen on the idea of supporting it, but ultimately they did not to avoid conflict with germany. With this possibility out of the picture, I think that the republic would have gained a lot more of external support, and combined with superior manpower, control of the most important cities, and more resources, the republic would have probably beaten the nationalists. In our timeline, the republic started winning the war at the beginning, and it wasn't until the battle of the ebro (I think) that the tides were changed. So, taking this into account, I believe that the republic would have mostly won under these circumstances
Thats almost correct except the part you say the repiblic was winning, they were in a stalemate for the most, but with the foreing intervention the war sided to thw natiomalist side
What if Japan becomes the colony of the USA and What if Japan won at the battle of Khalkhin Gol? Also, the what-if Korean Empire survives?
I love the thought of "what if" with all of these alternate history scenarios. When you change the outcome of a certain event, you can "probably" predict what is likely to happen in the days and weeks afterward. The problem becomes exponentially more difficult to predict what will happen in the months and years to follow. There are just too many possibilities to account for, including outcomes no one has thought of yet. Even with the help of super computers and an artificial intelligence, we would probably be somewhere if the neighborhood of 60% accurate. It is still fun to postulate though, and I will keep watching the videos. Thank you very much for all of the hard work and thought you put into making this particular video possible.
Southern front was broken by combined forces of Serbia, Greece, France, and Brittan, not just Greece.
The majority of the soldiers were Serbs and French (150 000 and 180 000)
What website do you use for your maps?
Idea: What if Harald Hardrada defeats Harald Godwinson, then William the Conquerer in 1066?
Inb4 red flood comments
WW1 was a family-feud war between the three cousins Willie, Nikki and Georgie
I don’t often wonder “what would life be like” if certain world events happened differently. I stumbled upon your video and decided to listen to what you had to say....which I found intriguing, thoughtful and through! You covered areas that I hadn’t considered, mostly out my own ignorance and motivates me to look into what really happened. ie Germany helping (Imperial) China. TY! Well done !
fantastic stuff; and well done. I don't know if you'll have the time but I would love to see this alternative world after its own World war ...2 1/2 ? As how it would look in its Modern form fascinates me. Thanks again
I think it would be interesting to see a video where Mexico wins the Mexican-American war. I know it seems unrealistic but I think it would be interesting.
Even a 1000 years after Rome fell, a bunch of Germanic bois still defeat a great Latin power
good sir I am afraid that you have greatly ignored the fact that this was to be a stalemate scenario and by the point in time you have the treaty both sides had been so indoctrinated by the propoganda of their home lands that a lack of victory would lead to civil un rest and likely civil wars in ALL of the participating nations and germany would likely have found movments simillar to the spartacus uprising , and Bavarian Socialist up rising happening earlier , esspecially with the soviets being supported by the germans
Finnaly, a redux.
That moon scenario is in the early research phase btw.
@@MonsieurDean Great! Thanks once again for accepting it.
You're welcome, pal.
The US didn't change the tides to the west. The invention of the tank changed the tides to the West, the US troops made little to no difference to the victory in the war, unless the war continued for several years the US troops wouldn't have made a difference. While the threat of American troops were a reason for peace, it wasn't impactful to the war itself
Greece didn't knock Bulgaria out of the war; France, Britain, and their colonies did, Greece (and Serbia) had a minor contribution in that. Whether or not Greece joins the Entente doesn't change history much.
But the entente troops advanced through Greece. Without these ports they can’t reach Bulgaria
I like this timeline, that is a beautiful pink crossing the globe, Rule Britannia.
With the help of Germany.
well if noone won ww1 i find this specific timeline highly unrealistic
most of the events described here would have taken a different route
and many small changes would give a fastly different result
Greece is the key. The key to everything.
Greece is the funniest character we’ve had so far
Greece did not beat Bulgaria
French British and some Greek troops
And we hold strong
Search for Doiran and u will se
And Bulgaria was the only central power country which was on the parade for the end of the war
@@theundertaker7435 that only happened because greece joined the war
@Silver Wolf the help you're thinking of is from italy and spain
@@theundertaker7435 if greece was in the war even galipoli might succeed because Greeks knew the region
I want to see what if Sykes-Picot never happened
I tried this before but I scrapped it because I just found the subject frustrating. I may look into it again in the future.
I used to run a board set up for geopolitical with members role playing as each nation in this period. The scenario of a stalemated ending to the Great War was the most interesting of the games we ran. Germany stagnated. Austria-Hungarian crumbled piece by piece in the 1920's. Poland became something of a power especially when the War with Russia went even better than in the Historical Timeline. Italy absorbed bits of the Balkans over time until it caused a new Balkan War in the 1930s. Russia in this world went White not Red and fought with the Balkan nations against Italy, while most of the world sat out. The Ottoman Empire was dismembered by Britain and France while no was looking and the Washington naval Treaty never happened. The US stock markets blew up in 1923 instead of 1929. Japan was neck-deep in China 10 years sooner than was normal but got caught short with the 1923 earthquake, stagnating them in every area. Germany retained the Colonies after the war, changing the Pacific dynamic completely.
LONG EDIT
Can you do this for me?
1. What if South Korea was became a monarchy (not a republic) while North Korea was still communist and reunited as a confederation?
This was inspired by the Korean TV series called The King 2 Hearts
2. What if in the alternate timeline, after the dissolution of Soviet Union, Russia established Russian Federation (which, at the time during Boris Yeltsin's presidency, is way more democratic before Putin era) BUT AT THE SAME TIME restoring the monarchy (which sounds totally like a federal parliamentary democracy and semi-constitutional "elective" monarchy because Romanvos are dead so a new generation of Russia royal family will take place "via national election" or some remnants of the Romanvos to rule the nation)?
3. What if Egypt restore or adapt the Ancient Egypt system (everything from the culture, lifestyle, religion, education, laws, government, warfare, etc.) to the modern world?
I hope that you notice and read this comment
I like how Netherlands and Japan are just chillin' :D
Greece didn't defeat Bulgaria. It was a combined effort. The main participants were France, Britan, Serbia and Greece, not Greece alone.
this is poggers moment the best land army in europe and the best navy in the world together now this is awesome
Been waiting for this one
It's been years.
I like your work. Honestly a European map instead of a world map would have been the better option most of the time.
Bulgarian front was broken by combined forces of France, GB and Greece. And there was fighting on this front even before Greece entered officially the war.
I honestly really liked this alternate history, I would love a HOI4 mod of this now 😂
Hi
I have an Idea: What if Japan becomes Christianity in the 17th century?
That Video already exists.
A timeline featuring more American intervention in Latin American affairs. My God, what a nightmare. I remember my great grandfather stories very well. He was a businessman during the 1920s and 1930s in Central America. What he had to say about the Yankee businessman and adventurers that plagued the place during the banana wars isn’t printable. With the other old people in his generation had to say about them was no better. This is especially true for anybody unfortunate enough to be employed by Standard Fruit. The idea of more American interference than what was experienced during this timeline makes me shutter. If I was Catholic, I would cross myself
The circle is now complete....
We meet again Obi Wan
Once I was the student, now I am The Master.
So how did the Red Flood devs get from here to declarations of war against reality, Italian Shogunate, Cyborg Russians, and 34th dynasty of Egypt in Finland?
This is easily the coolest alternate history scenario ever
So basicly Red Flood but actually makes sense and didn't high on drug ?
Interesting.
That sounds amazing
You sound exactly like the guy from alternate history but with much more context.
What if the napoleonic wars ended in a stalemate?
French Empire never falls but probably has to give up it's client states. Not too bad a deal.
A Hearts of Iron IV mod called "Red Flood" lets you experience this. Which I guess is where you got the idea from?
Now this is epic
Did I miss something, or did Japan just quietly annex the Philippines while nobody was looking?
Macarthur was prolly not happy with that...
Damn you youtube, not giving me the notifications for monsieur z’s newest video
Anyone else getting their notification late?
I‘d like to see that too!
"They took our lives, and then they didin't usem em!"
- Translated Viking
7:47 BTW, for those interested: this map is orientated NW-SE. Across the Adriatic Sea from San Marino.
The Central Powers did secure adequate calories and nutrition for 1918 by occupying the Ukraine. I learned this little-known fact (including the caloric and nutritional details) while researching for an undergrad term paper in 1997. However, it is not politically acceptable to point out today due to it’s superficially pro-Hitler connotations about the mythical “stab in the back”. The reason Germany couldn’t win in 1918 was that by June the US had over a million troops in France, and that number doubled again by November. However, even this fact is politically incorrect to point out today due to the implication that America matters. I hate politically motivated “Histories”! However, how does one write a “neutral” History? By it’s very nature, any significant fact is political.
Lmao. 1984 two: electric boogaloo
I was looking for someone to make a 1984 reference
Britain to rule the waves and Germany to rule the land. Intresting
Perfect timeline
your like AlternateHistoryHub, but instead of animation, it's pictures, and your voice is quite the same as him aswell!
Well, as a German I have to say, I like this scenario
I as a Bulgarian dont like the end. Its embarrassing. The central powers wont allow Italy to do as it likes on the balkans. Greece alone would be poor and with an army which could be surrounded on 2 to 3 sides by larger Bulgarian armies. They basically didnt focus as much on land while having to also build navy which is expensive too. Anyways. I think he doesnt understand that no1 back then gave a shit if communists rose to power. No1 took them seriously. Also Serbians receiving Bosnia? That's just sad and dumb as hell. A country which is completely swallowed would receive new lands? Tbh they would rather be in their border before first Balkan war or a bit more as it's a stalemate. A&H likely will receive German help or wont need it and would remain and would get larger.
As an Englishman I also like this ending
Always satisfying, when Britain and Germany ally i alt history
Again, hilariously, I already made a theory about this months ago. I like alternate history too and I thought I was the only one who thought of it. Yours is an interesting and well thought out theory. If you see this, I can tell you mine if you want to.
Next scenario suggestion: What if both USA and Russia experienced successful Communist revolutions at roughly the same time in 1917?
Here’s what I think would follow, I should mention that I am British so I may be biased but here it goes anyway...
I genuinely think that unless both Japan and the US unite at the same time to take down the British led world we could see Britain dominate the world. However, I find this highly unlikely due to Japan’s expansionist policy which I could see them expanding into American Pacific territory instead seeing them as a weaker power unable to react in time to properly defend.
Additionally, with America remaining isolationist and not being involved during the world war it is highly likely that both the British and Japanese would ignore any attempt at American involvement at a naval treaty such as Washington in our own timeline due to holding onto pre war views of America being a junior power. Which could be enough for the British to not cancel the Anglo Japanese treaty of 1902 in order to appease the Americans like in our timeline.
This being said without a Naval treaty in Place a naval arms race would ensue just as it had prior to WWI in our timeline. The Anglo-French union and German limitations being nonexistent thanks to no Versailles would mean that an Anglo-German coalition would still reign supreme, the Americans would have to face a choice of having to build strong navies on both of its coastlines or focusing solely on one enemy. Either way I could see a Japanese invasion of American holdings in the Pacific such as the Philippines or even Hawaii, this would in turn start a war between the two. Given the fact Britain and Japan have an alliance it isn’t too much of a stretch of the imagination to see Britain jumping to Japan’s defence. Or, failing that, Britain would see its role as Global policeman and involve itself this way. This would most likely see American aggression toward Britain, as a result Britain would most likely Blockade the eastern seaboard and reinforce the Canadian border.
I predict eventually an American defeat following the war similar to that of China in the second half of the 19th century in that the victorious powers would be able to have spheres of influence such as Britain in New England, Germany the Midwest, Japan influencing the west coast particularly San Francisco, Spain (who get involved to regain pride and some territories) would likely be involved in Florida and finally Mexico would likely take the opportunity to try and reclaim New Mexico, Nevada, Utah and parts of Texas particularly in the south and west. Following this I think that a revolution may take place instead or at the very least some states may choosing to secede the union. Given the historical and cultural connection and proximity to Canada, I would assume these states would be those under British influence in the North East of the country, how long this may take I don’t know.
Finally I predict a Cold War scenario between Britain and Japan while Southern Europe and the rest of the Americas remain neutral.
This is probably the most fascinating one that I've seen.
What if the Axis landed in mainland North America
In our timeline Japan attacked the Aleutian islands as a diversion attack so they could surprise attack midway.
But what if Midway was the diversion (the USA sighting the Japanese carriers still at midway keep their fleet there), Japan’s fleet at midway is nowhere near the strength it is in our time line puzzles the allies.
In stead of just invading the Aleutian island they invade mainland Alaska threatening North America.
This is a what if that I want to see (what are the implications on ww2 and beyond)
They wouldn’t threaten North America. Alaska in the mid 1940s really didn’t have the infrastructure for them to push down into Canada and the US.
It would threaten the US supply’s of Lends lease. to the USSR, as the route would now be in Japanese hands.
Here’s a better one. What if the Japanese landed in, say, Washington state? Like something similar to the soviets in the game “world in conflict”.
High Castle?
Brits and Germans working together...
I mean both peoples, even in our reality, sans their languages are virtually the same. Both love to complain a lot about anything and everything; They have the same taste in holiday destinations; They both have a spicy sense of humour; They both hate playing second fiddle to the Americans although they'd never admit it publicly...
There's probably thousands of additional similarities they share between them. It shows that they have common ancestors!
Here’s an idea. What if Germany remained neutral in the Great War
well it wouldn't be much of a great war it'll just be russia slapping austria
Unless you assume that Wilson had neither of his TWO strokes, he would not have been more involved in Latin America. Your analysis of Hoover versus FDR was extremely perceptive but Hoover was still likely t have lost due to being blamed for the depression. France was the first country to suffer a Communist revolution in 1870, so the chance that another would flare up was entirely possible. Britain was unlikely to abandon their jealousy of German industrial and manufacturing ascension until losing their overseas empire. A stalemate of World War I would have made World War II unlikely and left Europe with millions of more people now than otherwise.