Dont forget,Germany said to the Italians WW2 would start around 1942,which is probably the reason italy was so garbage during WW2.If they were prepared they could have done a major difference
The leadership of Italy was just not gonna cut it, whether or not they had time to build up. Their best general (subjectively) Giovanni Messe was even kept in a political position in Albania because of his *royalist background.* Even after he was kept in charge of the Italian Expeditionary Force in Russia, which is even further from Italy than Albania. Keep in mind that one of their largest problems was the constant bombing of Northern Italy's cities (Milan, Venice, Turin, Florence, their largest) was culling their capabilities overall.
The Manhattan Project completed 3 bombs before the war ended. One was tested at the Trinity site, the other two were used on Japan. A fourth was being readied, but Japan surrendered and it was never completed. Its plutonium core was recovered and used for research, becoming the infamous Demon Core after it caused two criticality incidents and killed two scientists. It was then melted down and recycled into other weapons.
09:45-10:08 Drew, you seem to forget Russia's defeat in WWI. The Germans thought that Russia was in the same Situation as they were in WWI, thus making it super easy to beat Russia. Wich of course was not true.
on top of the loss against finland in addition to the anti judeo bolchevic(that era's cultural marxism) conspiracy yeah, the germans really underestimated russia
yea it goes under the radar the fact that Germany won the war on the eastern front, unlike the western front. So when they blitzed France and the rest of Europe in ww2 you could forgive them in thinking they could do it again in defeating the Russians..
@@Ijst19 I mean with that amount of troops they can in this alternative timeline where they did not have to worry of africa and britain. But Holding onto that soviet territories would be a nightmare . That amount of resistance will shatter any hope for a full conquest of siberia, central asia and the british isles
The idea Alternate History Hub had, that was the same thing I had been thinking for a long time. I once read somewhere that Guderian's Panzer division had come close to taking Dunkirk before the Sichelschnitt was completed so I guess that could also have happened. And the British and France also held Germans near Senne river so if that had not happened, it would have been even easier
Have you ever watched WW2: In colour on Netflix/RUclips it goes through the key battles and moments using old footage on with both the German/Russian/UK side and US/Japan side and it does really give you a sense of how close some battles where to changing how the next few months at least would have played out. Highly recommend
9:57 Polish Bolshevik war wasnt defensive war for poland it was offensive war. It was started because polish Hicom knew that Soviets would strike so they decided to strike first
16:00 you forget about the mud season if you do that your military will be bugged down by mud instead of snow. Actually a winter invasion is much better when the ground is frozen and you can use your mechanized units more easily.
Only if your vehicles are cold resistant. The german mistake was thinking ",we'll have Russia completely on its knees long before winter" and only gave their soldiers summer uniforms and not making enough winter uniforms. The Germans were quite capable of fighting in cold environments, as shown by their divisions that were stationed in Finland and fought the Finns and the Soviets after the Finns changed sides
Brother what? Invade late winter?? If you did that, then once everything starts to thaw you would not be able to move ahead a single centimetre, since literally all of Russia turns into mud that season
12:12 a war with the Soviet Union was not something one could stop, the main reason the Germans went after th was for ideological reasons, Hitlers goal from the start had always been to destroy the USSR, not Britain. In fact the reason they wanted peace with Britain as so they could focus all of their energy on an attack of to the USSR. Germany not attacking the USSR means Nazism at its core is completely different and probably never rises to power in the first place, instead being replaced by a different lucky facist group
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16:11 You forget that after the winter, all the snow melts and rain comes and the ground gets very muddy which would slow you down. The next year after the Germans invaded the USSR, 1942, they continued to advance, but their equipment and soldiers were bogged down by all the mud and it really slowed down their advance into the Steppe and the Caucasus.
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My question for this video would be, from where would the US nuke Germany, the UK is gone, would they build a aircraft carier so big it could let a B-29 take air? Or would they do something completly else? And btw, Germany had there own atomic program, well it was more directed towords a reactor, but you never know...
Yeah and i dont see how the US would of finished the Nuke at that time because we captured german scientists during the war and they helped make the nuke with the knowledge they already had so if we never captured those scientists how would we of been able to finish the madhatten project at that time??
@@lillj-2020Actually I don't even see the germans launching Sea Lion, which would be the point? They would have already gotten everything they wanted from them. Mustache man even wanted to allie Britain at the beginning
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i really doubt that the soviets would colapse in mounths. One of the biggest problems with barbarosa was the dificulties to supply the frontlines, and even if the germans had captured moscow, they would still had to deal with the soviets in the urals and maybe siberia.
Actually Drew the Germans probably went at the most optimal time in Russia. After Winter you get something called Rasputitsa which is when all the ground ice melts and the spring rains turn the world to mud. And tanks aren't making it very far in that.
Of the germans spent a few years with the steel and oil of all of europe,, they could probably make a bigger navy than the British. So it may have happened eventually. I don't think 1945, I think closer to 1948 or 49.
The USSR joining the Axis would be extremely unlikely, it viewed both the Germans and the Japanese as military and specifically ideological threats. Keeping the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in place may have prolonged the war for Germany potentially pushing the war into the late 40's, but assuming all other events played out the way they did historically minus the USSR involvement then, that means the US still gets involved and eventually overwhelms Germany. The only difference in this case would be the US, UK etc. would take far higher casualties, since all German forces would be allocated to fighting them instead.
yeah because of hitler's concepts of lebensraum. germany had to be 100% self sufficient, as well as his hatred of communists makes me think he would have attacked no matter what. it might have been postponed a bit though because fuel shortages wouldn't have been as dyer. a little more prep time to get it right with less desperation and shortages.
Point of note here where Drew is wrong, Poland didn't win its independence from Russia/USSR during the Polish-Soviet War, it was already independent via the Treaty of Versailles, it would be factually correct to say Poland retained its independence, by pushing the Russians back out of Polish territory and sparing most of the rest of Europe from communism for a extra 20ish years.
How would the US Finish the madhatten project if we never Took the German Scientists?? Thats one big problem no one is talking about people forget the US captured Many German Scientists and had help making the atomic bomb and people also forget Germany was trying to figure out how to make a nuclear bomb them selfs during the war???
Classic mistake, thinking attacking in the winter is a good idea because of the thaw in spring But it's the spring warmth that causes the most problems, the thaw causes the frozen ground to melt and become a giant mud field that becomes impossible to cross with an army and their supply lines So no, attacking in late winter would be even more disastrous
I think this alternate timeline fails right at the beginning. Rescinding the order to halt squeezing into the Dunkirk pocket wouldn't magically make logistics teleport all the ammo, fuel, food, water, etc to the troops to refit and make an advance feasible within a day. It's quite possible that a poorly equipped attack could be stopped and even countered causing a disaster for the Germans.
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Honestly the only way the fascist regime would survive, no I don’t think it will, but in the New order, Speer is liberal, so he may save Germany as he is for the people.
That's not how nukes in the 40s work though. Without Britain, they wouldn't have any close airbase to launch the aircraft with the nukes. Even if they did, it seems like the German air defenses would be impossible to pass through without a grinding air war. Realistically, Germans have a years to consolidate their gains and even develop their own super bombs and missiles until Americans make intercontinental missiles.
If Churchill wanted us there, we would be there. Peace deal or not. If the US decides we’re going to do something, that’s also where things end. Germany could take Europe, could’ve taken the UK. Could’ve gone into Russia, the US is defeating them. If you want to question that, question why Germany and Japan are now our allies.
Dont forget,Germany said to the Italians WW2 would start around 1942,which is probably the reason italy was so garbage during WW2.If they were prepared they could have done a major difference
The leadership of Italy was just not gonna cut it, whether or not they had time to build up. Their best general (subjectively) Giovanni Messe was even kept in a political position in Albania because of his *royalist background.* Even after he was kept in charge of the Italian Expeditionary Force in Russia, which is even further from Italy than Albania. Keep in mind that one of their largest problems was the constant bombing of Northern Italy's cities (Milan, Venice, Turin, Florence, their largest) was culling their capabilities overall.
Allies on their own would’ve steamrolled germany if they waited until 1942
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@@Very_spicyseaweed he also went to the african front
The Manhattan Project completed 3 bombs before the war ended. One was tested at the Trinity site, the other two were used on Japan. A fourth was being readied, but Japan surrendered and it was never completed. Its plutonium core was recovered and used for research, becoming the infamous Demon Core after it caused two criticality incidents and killed two scientists. It was then melted down and recycled into other weapons.
09:45-10:08 Drew, you seem to forget Russia's defeat in WWI. The Germans thought that Russia was in the same Situation as they were in WWI, thus making it super easy to beat Russia. Wich of course was not true.
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on top of the loss against finland in addition to the anti judeo bolchevic(that era's cultural marxism) conspiracy
yeah, the germans really underestimated russia
yea it goes under the radar the fact that Germany won the war on the eastern front, unlike the western front. So when they blitzed France and the rest of Europe in ww2 you could forgive them in thinking they could do it again in defeating the Russians..
@@Ijst19 I mean with that amount of troops they can in this alternative timeline where they did not have to worry of africa and britain. But Holding onto that soviet territories would be a nightmare . That amount of resistance will shatter any hope for a full conquest of siberia, central asia and the british isles
Doesn't germans was industrializing and training army with them?
The idea Alternate History Hub had, that was the same thing I had been thinking for a long time. I once read somewhere that Guderian's Panzer division had come close to taking Dunkirk before the Sichelschnitt was completed so I guess that could also have happened. And the British and France also held Germans near Senne river so if that had not happened, it would have been even easier
13:25 YES! Mosley I was so upset he didn’t mention him in the video
Have you ever watched WW2: In colour on Netflix/RUclips it goes through the key battles and moments using old footage on with both the German/Russian/UK side and US/Japan side and it does really give you a sense of how close some battles where to changing how the next few months at least would have played out. Highly recommend
The memes would be very interesting in this timeline. Instead of mainly France surrender, it'll be bri'ish incompetence.
Why not both? French and British surrender, despite both winning WW1
@@SciRulerand despite France having the most military victories in history
9:57 Polish Bolshevik war wasnt defensive war for poland it was offensive war. It was started because polish Hicom knew that Soviets would strike so they decided to strike first
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16:00 you forget about the mud season if you do that your military will be bugged down by mud instead of snow. Actually a winter invasion is much better when the ground is frozen and you can use your mechanized units more easily.
Your opinion on why German launched offensives in Summer (the mud hardened by then iirc) while Soviet launched offensives in Winter?
Only if your vehicles are cold resistant. The german mistake was thinking ",we'll have Russia completely on its knees long before winter" and only gave their soldiers summer uniforms and not making enough winter uniforms. The Germans were quite capable of fighting in cold environments, as shown by their divisions that were stationed in Finland and fought the Finns and the Soviets after the Finns changed sides
@@AntoninHamstra I meant it would be better than late winter offensive a summer offensive is of course would be more advantageous for Germany.
@@ugrasergun I see
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Brother what? Invade late winter??
If you did that, then once everything starts to thaw you would not be able to move ahead a single centimetre, since literally all of Russia turns into mud that season
the mongols managed to do that, what's the excuse?
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Without the mud
@@Darth_B yeah, but the mud is there and that is the one reason, why germany didnt attack earlier in our timeline
spring would have been best
12:12 a war with the Soviet Union was not something one could stop, the main reason the Germans went after th was for ideological reasons, Hitlers goal from the start had always been to destroy the USSR, not Britain. In fact the reason they wanted peace with Britain as so they could focus all of their energy on an attack of to the USSR. Germany not attacking the USSR means Nazism at its core is completely different and probably never rises to power in the first place, instead being replaced by a different lucky facist group
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19:52 many of the soviet plan were rly good Drew ! For real
28:25 Does Drew realise he's reading a bot comment?
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@@chaosgamer016_5 Literally only kids 8 and below fall for that💀
@@StinkyCheeseYT Yes and there are a lot of 8 year olds on the internet
@@peace_2520 Yeah sadly
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13:32 well yeah, who says that in a case of the british losing, oswalt mosley wouldn't get more power, especially since he was active at the time
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i love it how at 24:58 they use battle ships from the movie howls moving caslte
Nice video
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Winter will not be the best time to invade bechause of the mud in spring/ late winter
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*Laughs in Spring Rasputitsa
Are you sure about that? Attack Russia in spring? cold and muddy? all vehicles stuck in the road and most maneuver thing become horse?
16:11 You forget that after the winter, all the snow melts and rain comes and the ground gets very muddy which would slow you down. The next year after the Germans invaded the USSR, 1942, they continued to advance, but their equipment and soldiers were bogged down by all the mud and it really slowed down their advance into the Steppe and the Caucasus.
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I don’t think the American planes would even be able to get to Germany with the Luftwaffa being a threat
Yeah, during, basically, battle of Britain. Against much more experienced German pilots in (due to the lack of allied bombings) more advanced planes.
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Even late winter its to muddy to move trucks and tanks because all the snow melts
My question for this video would be, from where would the US nuke Germany, the UK is gone, would they build a aircraft carier so big it could let a B-29 take air? Or would they do something completly else? And btw, Germany had there own atomic program, well it was more directed towords a reactor, but you never know...
Yeah and i dont see how the US would of finished the Nuke at that time because we captured german scientists during the war and they helped make the nuke with the knowledge they already had so if we never captured those scientists how would we of been able to finish the madhatten project at that time??
@@lillj-2020Actually I don't even see the germans launching Sea Lion, which would be the point? They would have already gotten everything they wanted from them. Mustache man even wanted to allie Britain at the beginning
I say Japan only surrendered because of Hirohito's say so. The military was ready to resist an American Invasion.
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the problem with invading Russia Late winter is that the second the ground thaws it becomes all mud even the roads
So by this alt version of history dunkirk would be the most important event in the world
4:51 watched it drew u should too i watched it many times and also yesterday
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0:15 he's gonna regret saying that in WW3
who knows if germany would have still declared if they didn't feel quite as desperate and concerned.
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i really doubt that the soviets would colapse in mounths. One of the biggest problems with barbarosa was the dificulties to supply the frontlines, and even if the germans had captured moscow, they would still had to deal with the soviets in the urals and maybe siberia.
Actually Drew the Germans probably went at the most optimal time in Russia. After Winter you get something called Rasputitsa which is when all the ground ice melts and the spring rains turn the world to mud. And tanks aren't making it very far in that.
when that happens all of russia turns to mud XD. it's virtually impassible after the thaw.
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The most unrealistic part of this scenario is Operation Sealion.
Of the germans spent a few years with the steel and oil of all of europe,, they could probably make a bigger navy than the British. So it may have happened eventually. I don't think 1945, I think closer to 1948 or 49.
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27:30 They probably would not care if they got nuked, after all they fought till the very, very end.
Oh what is Germany didn’t invade the Soviet Union and the Soviet union ended up joining the axis so that might have made the Axes win
The USSR joining the Axis would be extremely unlikely, it viewed both the Germans and the Japanese as military and specifically ideological threats. Keeping the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in place may have prolonged the war for Germany potentially pushing the war into the late 40's, but assuming all other events played out the way they did historically minus the USSR involvement then, that means the US still gets involved and eventually overwhelms Germany. The only difference in this case would be the US, UK etc. would take far higher casualties, since all German forces would be allocated to fighting them instead.
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yeah because of hitler's concepts of lebensraum. germany had to be 100% self sufficient, as well as his hatred of communists makes me think he would have attacked no matter what. it might have been postponed a bit though because fuel shortages wouldn't have been as dyer. a little more prep time to get it right with less desperation and shortages.
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who said that? my god they were integral. couldn't win without them.
funny cuz i just did this in risk universalis
Point of note here where Drew is wrong, Poland didn't win its independence from Russia/USSR during the Polish-Soviet War, it was already independent via the Treaty of Versailles, it would be factually correct to say Poland retained its independence, by pushing the Russians back out of Polish territory and sparing most of the rest of Europe from communism for a extra 20ish years.
How would the US Finish the madhatten project if we never Took the German Scientists?? Thats one big problem no one is talking about people forget the US captured Many German Scientists and had help making the atomic bomb and people also forget Germany was trying to figure out how to make a nuclear bomb them selfs during the war???
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Classic mistake, thinking attacking in the winter is a good idea because of the thaw in spring
But it's the spring warmth that causes the most problems, the thaw causes the frozen ground to melt and become a giant mud field that becomes impossible to cross with an army and their supply lines
So no, attacking in late winter would be even more disastrous
But germany was thinking about making a book before Americans
The thing with the ending is that germany developed nukes the usa could only create there nukes cause they had captured german engeniers
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I think this alternate timeline fails right at the beginning. Rescinding the order to halt squeezing into the Dunkirk pocket wouldn't magically make logistics teleport all the ammo, fuel, food, water, etc to the troops to refit and make an advance feasible within a day. It's quite possible that a poorly equipped attack could be stopped and even countered causing a disaster for the Germans.
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Honestly the only way the fascist regime would survive, no I don’t think it will, but in the New order, Speer is liberal, so he may save Germany as he is for the people.
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That's not how nukes in the 40s work though. Without Britain, they wouldn't have any close airbase to launch the aircraft with the nukes. Even if they did, it seems like the German air defenses would be impossible to pass through without a grinding air war. Realistically, Germans have a years to consolidate their gains and even develop their own super bombs and missiles until Americans make intercontinental missiles.
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If Churchill wanted us there, we would be there. Peace deal or not. If the US decides we’re going to do something, that’s also where things end. Germany could take Europe, could’ve taken the UK. Could’ve gone into Russia, the US is defeating them. If you want to question that, question why Germany and Japan are now our allies.
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