Tbh I'm just myself. I believe God doesn't hate me for who I am. It's just the Religious society hates us. And I don't feel like I should be sorry for who I am.
Petronella Biko depends who you talk to. If you are committed to Jesus and God then those who also do the same would try to change you because otherwise....you arent going to heaven. You would be in a constant state of sin. You arent repenting and then trying to stay away from that sin. I believe in Mark it says only the most die hard Christians will make it (Not the actual words). Like being a Gay Christian is kind of an oxymoron. Personally idc what you do. That is your life. Just dint be having sex in the middle of the street. I wouldnt like it if a straight couple did it
Do you know the definition of the word bigoted? It means "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions." What part of what he said seemed intolerant to other people? He literally said I don't care what you do, that's your life. Tolerance doesn't mean agreement, and calling someone names like bigot because they disagree with you funnily enough makes you a bigot yourself
BrittDawggg Arf Arf! Personally I think the word "bigot" is ignorant. The definition is stupid. "Intolerant of others opinions." I understand that, but someones opinion can be wrong...Am I intolerant for pointing out if someones opinion is wrong? No. "The Earth is flat." NO!!! It doesnt make sense. That opinion is wrong! Am I intolerant? I dont think so. Honesty and intolerant are 2 different things. Flat earth having people....hdkdnfmmtkfifnrn. Ever got into an argument about that? Most frustrating shit ever. I tried to understand and listen too. I sat there. Listened. Asked for a drawing and everything. Fuck that opinion. As you can see I have had a bad experience with flat earth people
@@teom9638 Not all love wins. But I definitely agree with the fact that 'let god burn them quickly' are not words that should come out of a Christians mouth
i am a christian universalist. unfortunately most christians believe that unless you accept jesus you go to hell. on that basis the nazis are in heaven while their victims - fellow jews like jesus was are in hell
Christians love neighbours but hate the sin. There is a difference between loving a person who is sinful and telling everybody that the sin is not actually a sin.
Charis Sijuwade Agreed! It's so heartless. My mum is religious but she accepted me for being gay. In fact, when someone questioned how her attitude didn't align with her religion she said "if my religion forced me to choose between it and my son, I'd choose my son every time". I've never forgot that.
That is an ignorant statement. Jesus died in YOUR place! It should be you who die because of your sins, we should all experience second death (death of our soul) because or our sins. Jesus suffered and died so you don't have to! Because of Jesus sacrifice, you have the opportunity to live forever in paradise but if you reject this beautiful love act, then you will stand before God after death and be judged. After that there will be punishment. It is your choice. It is heartbreaking for me but so many people choose hell in this life. If you saw what hell is like, you would run to Jesus as fast as you can seeking forgiveness. Seek Him now, tomorrow may be too late.
Jehovah's Witness is a satanic cult that manipulates its members. These parents don't really hate their son, they have just been brainwashed. There are now millions of ex-Jehovah's Witnesses who have escaped this dangerous cult.
How much pain and suffering has it caused that some people in the bronze age wrote that being gay is wrong? How immoral to hate people because who they are.
@@haileystarlight8376 Ezekiel 16:49 Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. Welp time to read your bible again and stop cherry picking :)
@@hatterymadnessaj3562 I'm not Christian, still doesn't change the fact that God destroyed those cities for being rotten. Does it not remind you of the, let's say, west?
e2sguy provide one piece of evidence for that and I may believe you. Your sexual orientation isn’t a choice, and yes, it is part of who you are. You are born this way, and you will see if you try to be gay for a day. Did you chose to be straight? No. There is strong, strong evidence that you are born with your sexual orientation. It is not learned and not a choice.
@@checkmate2489 im going to state something that i hope does not offen u in any way. But its purly because of the adamic nature built into them. In my opinion,(btw doesn't mean i don't respect urs) there is a natural law/order that was inforced by God, this law insures fruitfulness in terms of reproduction. In other words, this natural law is for a man and a woman to reproduce, since the bible says to adam(male) and eve(female) "be fruitful and multiply". So sadly homosexuality is defying that natural order and law, and as much as I hate to say it that's why homosexuality is a sin. Don't get me wrong the person is not a sin(That's why you should always love and care for that person no matter what there sexuality is) but unfortunately what there proceeding to act on is the sin. Note: I just wanna reiterate that sin is just a way of saying, an action that goes against god. And homosexuality goes against the natural order given by God. I hope this helps in terms of understanding if u need a little more explaination on any parts just ask and I will duly do my best to answer though the help of god.I pray that you have a really blessed day today, a day full of joy and peace. Amen, God bless ya😁.
peniel 789 : thank you for explaining to me your point of view. I'm not religious so I don’t always understand everything, but in your belief, God created everything, right? Humans and animals and vegetation and the planets? If that's the case, then He's all-powerful. If that too is the case, then why didn’t He just create humans and animals to be exclusively heterosexual? He could certainly do it, if He created everything in the first place. Also, by your definition, doesn’t that mean heterosexual couples who adopt or are infertile are also a sin? Because your reason given was that homosexual couples don't reproduce, and neither do some heterosexual couples, so technically by your logic some heterosexual couples are a sin. Finally, as I stated before, I am not religious. I don’t believe for or against God; I am agnostic and I simply admit that I don’t know as there's no way of knowing. Should my right to marry the person that I love be taken away by someone else’s beliefs? By someone who's life would not be affected in any way by me marrying that person?
@@checkmate2489 wow thank you also for your reply, ur actually gifted in the aspect of interpretations and asking. But if I'm honest with you I don't have all the answers, but God does. And ik that you don't particularly believe in God, but I suggest that if u want the best aswers, call out to him and ask. But for now, I simply adress some of the things that God placed in my heart and mind. God gave us free will, so that we are not forced by anything to act the way that we want. He did this so that he can purly test our willingness and love for him thoughout the way we live our lives. So in essence, are we living a life that glorfys God? That is a question I often ask myself. Moreover, touching on the fact of why God didn't make the natural order to be homosexuality, is something that is beyond me, it's a mystery and only God knows. But what what I do know is that u gotta have faith, for faith is believing despite not having the answers or being in a mystery. Therefore I belive that if the bible says the natural order is for opposite sexes to reproduce then i will have the faith to belive it. Also u stated that based on my logic homosexual couples are a sin, and I actually belive that it is not a sin for a homosexual couple to adopt or infertile a child, since that is an act of love towards the right direction. This is because in the bible it states that we should help the weak and defenceless and that we should treat others as you would treat yourself therefore I'm sure everyone would want a loving and caring family, despite there sexuality. Touching on the fact of loving and marrying someone of the same sex, yes that is a sin and it is unforunatly love that is going in the wrong direction. Eventhough it may not feel wrong like it, but its defying what God's word is saying, this doesn't mean that god doesn't love those ppl, in fact he loves them so much that he died on the cross for them! So that when father God looks as his people he sees the sacrifice of Jesus and becasue of that he cannot hate that person but rather he love that person so much. That the good news of the bible really, that god gave his only begotten son so that we may inherit eternal life with him(aka heaven). Also something that I see a lot with so called 'Christians' is that they are very judgmental. It's like they never sinned before, but gurrrlll I'm telling u know rn they properly done more sinsthen most homosexual people, for we all have sinned thus who are we to judge others for the same thing that we ourselves are doing, yano? Additionally, in the bible it says that there is no levels to sin meaning that a little white lie is on the same level as a murder, showing that in God's eyes were all the same, and he loves us the same no matter what we have done!he loves us the same when we're doing the worst thing we've ever done to when we're doing the most amazing thing we've ever done. So yeah, sorry I couldn't answer everything, I leave the rest for God. It's really nice discussing this with you, God bless you and don't ever forget ur amazing and ur loved by God!😁
@@magpierandoms6272 I don't believe in religion at all, but I still love God. Religion is man made, and because of that it has become curputed. Being a Christian for me isn't about religion at all, being a Christian means that I belive in Christ and what he has to say, not what man has to say. Peace love and joy is what I wish upon ur life, God bless u and have a great day today😁.
I’m thinking that maybe talking with their son will also get them removed from the church. Remember this church is their whole life, belief, friends & maybe some of their other children will abandon them. It’s a very difficult decision to make
That naming ceremony was deeply moving. The Jesus I know and love came for the 'misfits' and 'outcasts' in particular - not because He defined them as such or that they should be defined that way, but to show society that they had no right to judge and He didn't give a toss about their 'labels.' God's love is all-conquering. God bless Elijah and Oasis Church for demonstrating what true non-judgemental love, acceptance, courage and support looks like!
THE BIBLE TEACHES NO HOMOSEXUALS WILL GO TO HEAVEN..TO PRACTICE SODOMY AND GO TO CHURH IS A PERVERTED WAY OF LIFE , THE ANUS WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE PENETRATED BY ANY OBJECT.. INCLUDING A PENIS
JESUS ALSO GIVES US NEW CLEAN 💖 HEART AND OUTLOOK..IF ONE IS PROPERLY SAVED..ONE MAY SPEND A LIFETIME IN MACDONALDS BUT THIS WILL NOT TURN YOU INTO A BEEFBURGER..GOING TO CHURCH DONT MAKE U A CHRISTIAN..HILLSONG IS NOT A CHURCH ITS A NEW AGE NITECLUB..REF TO CARL LENTZ WHO IS A SEX ADDICTED LUSTFULL ADDICT WHO DELIGHTS IN SHOWING OFF HIS PUBES..HE WOULD SHAG A HAIRY SPORN ...
Amazing how Jesus NEVER.ONE.TIME even mentioned the word gay......but he had quite a bit to say about divorce. #justsaying "This is my new commandment that I give unto you, that you love one another, as I have loved you....."John 13:34
Jesus didn’t have to say “don’t rape, molest children, or screw another man in his shit hole, to say its wrong” some things go without saying. But just because it’s wrong doesn’t mean there bad ppl.
@@Bradmhj Rational and enlightened people know there's a difference between loving and consensual relationships between adults, and raping children. But...that's just us. Your ignorance is breathtaking.
The question is very good. You can ask the question to people, to parents , friends , but better is to ask it to the person who is asked the question of, or to people who heard His answer . But is is better far better to ask the question to and get the answer from God. But that is only for people who really care about finding out themselves who God is. And God wants to receive people into His presence , of which there He opened a Door, and a way to walk . Jesus . Anybody can come to Jesus, as this pastor said , as Jesus will not put away anybody away. But coming to Jesus and entering through him is a lifechanging experience . And that is that . And then the bible will start making sense, and your mouth will much less harsh criticising and outspoken. Humble and lowly of heart . And argumenting and scolding and divisions are stopping. Because it's only Jesus who changes people and bring them into the herd. He is awesome. And He loves us all!!!
I have a church where they accept lgbtq+. And my grandpa is a paster. My family accepts lgbtq+, but i dont know what they would think if their own daughter was bi. Should i be worried?
@Mark Cooke Homophobia is an abomination before God. And yes you should be sorry for your mistake because same sex marriage is not even mentioned in the Bible, so stop lying!
Josh's story is absolutely shocking , I can't believe that his parents could not look past there own flesh and bloods sexuality And I was completely un aware that this sort of thing was happening in the uk.
tom minnock maher This happens everywhere though. Literally the same shit happened to me and a cousin of mine out of town and we’re from Az. There’s many people that out there religion first and family love second. It’s very messed up but it’s there choices not ours. These kinds of people n parents and scared to go against the religion usually but unlike my family on my dads side they don’t care. They just hate any kind of LGBT peoples. So for them to do this to me and a cousin of mine is on them fully. I miss em but I won’t lie to be with them lmao. But nah for real this happens to a lot of people. It’s not new.
It really is so very sad. Also, there are so many LG-T teenagers that are homeless and living off the street and out of shelters in both Los Angeles and in New York City in the U S because they were kicked out and disowned by their bigoted religious family that would rather believe in something that Homophobic Biblical Man wrote thousands of years ago instead of loving their child as God made that child to be.
Unfortunately you can be cast out of Jehovah's Witnesses for far less than that. I have known many who have lost their families because of behaviour unbecoming. 2 have resulted in successful suicides, ironically a cardinal sin, several others have sought refuge in narcotics etc. or just failed to kill themselves. People in this situation have lost all the support they had and if they don't find a supportive group fast life is exceptionally hard for them.
If my family were religious and chose religion over me, I would disown them before they could disown me, I wouldn't want to be part of a family like that
@Scott SummersSummers they also include not sleeping outside of marriage or with a woman on her period, or allowing women who've had their period in the temple, etc. and keeping the Sabbath (ie Friday) holy and not working during that day. so by your logic converted Jews are the only real Christians. or are we forgetting that many of the ritual purity laws of Moses were said to not apply to gentiles????
Eduardo Campos so I am 13 and I was always taught that being gay was wrong but I knew I was. I’m also catholic and I think I’m a sinner, does your priest say that it’s a sin though?
@@numb__toeverything784 I'm 14 so feel free to skip this if you want. You say you were taught being gay was wrong. You also say you are gay, but if you ever have a doubt, think to yourself "if I hadn't been taught this way, would I still think it was wrong?" Trust me, you're not a sinner, you are who god made you to be. God made you this way, for a reason. Because you are you. Always remember, God does not make mistakes.
@@magpierandoms6272 it can do the same to me, im queer, im female, and if you're that scared of being thrown off a roof or into a lake, move to a bungalow in the desert. If you don't like religion, keep it to yourself. Anyway, if I'm gonna die for being me, pfft, strike me dead cuz I won't change. Religions can get weird, but that's no reason to tell people to stop. They have free will
After Elijah finished his speech and everyone started clapping I could feel tears forming in my eyes. When some people actually stood up, clapping encouragingly, the tears started to roll down my cheeks. Something like this is really important to me and I'm so glad this exists.
Riyadh is amazing. I fortunately grew up in a non religious household but i thought as myself as christian (in the UK, primary school is filled with religious poems and hymns we have to sing... also in year 3-6 it was very religious.) and i finally came out when i was 17 as a lesbian. Even my grandma who i thought was very homophobic... it turns out she wasn't. I was so surprised. And i'm so happy to be accepted. I'm so sorry for everyone who hasnt had this experienced. You are loved. There are communities that do accept you. Stay safe x
Hello, me too, I grew up as a Jehovah's Witnesses boy but since I accepted myself as a gay man, it is not the case anymore. Thank you for doing this video!!!
I hope you're a Christian now? There are many people who have walked away from the bondage of religion and turned to Jesus. I was a Mormon once. I left that religion and never looked back. I'm now a Christian.
They tried to drag me up a JW just cos my Da decided after years of beating people up for lookin at him the wrong way that he should now live peacefully and go round the doors telling others how they should live in peace. Haha they already werre. he ws the only mad B that wasnt. hahaha. They used to drag me round the doors with them, usually when i was grounded. The funniest time was when i was forced to go along to their Kingdom hall then round the doors cos my dad wasnt letting me out of his sight after discovering the previous day that i had dropped a shit load of Acid and was still tripping my box off on a black microdot when i went. Had all these smileyy-woileys up going "Oh! its lovely to see you coming yo our meetings. Are you a believer now?"...."Erm! Purple?"......LOL
This programme is heartbreakingly good. I personally have lost all faith over the last 25 years simply because of the kind of views expressed in this film. Why people can't just accept people for who they are, who they love and how they want to live their lives is beyond me, basing their belief on just a 'book' and not looking with their own two eyes.
Why would you lose your faith because of human kind? We are all evil and do evil things. don't listen to the haters ;) I'm proud catholic and I love all and so does God.
But the Bible is supposedly the word of God right? And if there are passages against homosexuals to be found then isn't that God's order on what is right & wrong
We aren't "evil" I guess, but we are made for greatness but we all still sin. Humankind has done evil things and we'll continue to do evil things. It's not depressing, it's realistic.
If you do research, there really isn't any point in the Bible that is homophobic. There's an informational video here on RUclips about it if you wish to do research. I think it's called "what does the Bible actually says about homosexuality". My God doesn't hate anyone.
Riyadh K, This is a truly amazing TV Show. I am in the US and would love to see shows like this on the air here. Thank you and the BBC for doing what you doing! Please keep up the great work!
3:27 "He wants us to be happy, and he knows how we can be happiest. That's why he invented marriage the way he did." I spat my drink out at that. Seriously?
Tell that to all the cities, and whole ethnic groups he murdered and condemned in the bible LOL "MU GUD DONT H8 NAHH ONE" * < Yeah, because he murdered as many as he could.
The entire bible wasn't written by Peter, and he didn't make himself the first pope because there wasn't a structured church when he was alive and he was murdered not long after Jesus' death.
I love the beginning of these series! It's great to have these issues raised through mainstream media, and show what some of the LGBTQ community have and are going through because of their sexuality and way of life. Celebrating the uniques and educating each other of people's differences normalises everything to those who are unaware of others. I am also from a small town in what felt a very conservative society, where ideally no one wanted to hear of your differences, that made growing up difficult. Coming to London has definitely made me confident in who I am and that is feeling good in your own skin cannot be more important. Live on and love on :) Great work Riyadh K and BBC team!
OMG Riyadh, thank you so much for being a part of this. Lately been thinking of giving up church completely, but it just doesn’t feel right. Haven’t found my tribe yet. This is so encouraging!!! Forever grateful!
God created man, man created religion. People choose religion because God/Jesus are no longer enough for them. Jesus is the only way, the truth, the life and the light of the world. Without Jesus there is no life. In religion there is only death. Choose Jesus. God bless.
Beautiful episode for a series that promises to be quite fascinating and deep! Thank you Riyadh, to be so open and understanding, and to bring a particular light on every situation. I loved how the programme gives a broad and open view on such a difficult issue. It is so easy to have strong responses to religion, but Riyadh manages to show different situations for different individuals. In the end, we can realise the importance of belonging to a community, being accepted for who you are, being loved and cherished for who you are. I'll follow the programme with real enthusiasm, thank you BBC Three to propose such quality content! It is really important, and necessary, I believe.
When I finish watching this video. I can say that I was so luck to have my parents support me for who I am. My mother love me as I am. She just wants the best for me and to be happy.
You guys need to subtitle this series! It's got great educational potential that's been lost because of a lack of translation! I could do it myself to Portuguese.
Rachael Marshall thanks x and so true the only mistake that are made is my humans not god you make your own choice in life and Rachael you made the right one thanks ;-)
BUNNIE_GURL how can you think that when god is supposed to be omnipotent meaning he knew when he told people to put it in the bible that for thousands of years...literally thousands of years gay people would be tortured, ostracised and murdered for what he had written into the bible
the incredibly nasty god character portrayed in the old and new testaments certainly despises gays - he warrants the torture and death of many in the bible (and when he is not doing that he is giving out justifications for slavery, ethnic cleansing and the treatment of women as objects - merely the property of men). A horrific, hateful piece of literature responsible for the suffering and death of millions over thousands of years.
Beautifully done. The stories of people who are overcoming great challenges are presented with warmth and respect. I hope other people in the United States will be able to see this.
Riyadh, congratulations on being a BBC Presenter. I'm now watching from Baltimore, Md across the pond. I love your enthusiasm and love for our worldwide community of 🏳️🌈!
Thank you to Elijah's church for showing TRUE Christianity! Honestly, what a better, safer place to be than in the hands and arms of a good, good Father God!
I do understand that to some people faith is really important but what I don't understand is how faith can be more important than the happiness of your own child? Parents should love their children unconditionally! Awesome documentary, keep up the great work.
"faith"??? You mean religion. Faith is believing in something. Faith should be important to every single person on this planet. Faith and trust go hand in hand. It's not a question of faith but of religion. People put religion first because the prefer religion and deception to the truth. Only Jesus is the truth, yet people prefer to be like the religious pharisees of Jesus' day. Religious people only think of themselves. They don't care who they have to sacrifice. They don't care who they have to disown. There is no love in their hearts.
Bruno Lazé Plus you can leave a church without leaving your relationship with God. Im coming out soon, so I’m leaving my church and going to an inclusive one. I still love Jesus.
Religion is inherently evil. Religion is not of God. God created man, man created religion. Jesus only ever wanted us to follow Him. Jesus warned us against religion and religious pharisees.
I love that religion is being shown in not just its negatives but the positives as well. There can be love in religion, it can help save people from losing hope entirely.
I was also born into a Muslim household. Realized I was gay and became an atheist quick fast. LOL, I couldn't have anything to do with an institution so filled with rules and regulations and I'm glad for my sexuality because it lead me to become an atheist. I don't really have a relationship with my family, but I've accepted that. There is too much hurt there for us to be in each other's lives.
This church is the definition of being a good Christian. All other churches I've been in like to think they're Christian, but this church really practises what it preaches.
“Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg
I became a born again Christian at 12 and struggled with my sexuality until I was 38. I had become a minister from age 16 till I came out and lost my ministry. I love God and believe He loves me unconditionally. I would like to open a shelter for homeless LGBTQ youth some day.
Your statement is correct! it was physically written by man. But then how do u explain why so many different men have wrote the same/similar messages and stories? the only explaination for this is that God gave these people the same messages and stories so that it can be written physically into a book, aka the bible😁 (God achieves this through the power of the holy spirit💪🏾). Overall, men did physically write the bible but God placed the thoughts and ideas into there minds, therefore the bible is the word of God and not man's. Ps. I pray that whoever reads this will come to an understanding that God isn't against you, in fact he loves and cares for you so much that he died on the cross.... just.... for.....U. God bless you and have an awesome day!
i'm a christian but i am very open minded bcs i know what the bible said, it said that God comes for the sinner, that means every church must be open for every human♡♡ God loves you no matter what and i'm here for y'all♡♡♡ life is hard but.. keep going and be strong
We are all sinners. Every single person on this planet has fallen short of the glory of God. Jesus died for all men. There is hope in Jesus, but most religious preachers will not preach Jesus. They intentionally leave Jesus out of the picture so they can continue preaching their message of hatred, judgment and condemnation.
Thank You so much for this Episode! I am on the same situation like Josh is - since Nov. 2014 not seen my parents who are JW! I do live in Weimar (Germany) and found soooo much love and friends and even beautiful people who love me because the way I am! Thank You Riyadh for this very good episode! Greetings
A teaching from a God to disown, abandon, and cut ties with your own kin. Unimaginable, tragic, disheartening, and sad. I may not know how that person felt deep inside, but I have not even experience such thing and I'm already deeply scarred and hurting. I could not imagine going through life knowing that my own blood exist out there and I could not even express how thankful I am that they let me live in this world and how much I love and care for them. A teaching that has deprived an individual of a place of belonging, love, and faith. A teaching from teachings that is believed to bring unity and salvation to humans, but to me it seems to make humans fall more and divided.
Oh My god i'm crying happy tears when he meets Steve the man who runs that amazing accepting church. i've met him so many times when i went to one of his schools. I just remember little Bisexual Closeted me talking to him being upset and scared about who i was at the time not knowing how amazing this man really is oh my god
I cried with the letter written to Josh. There is nothing that could make me stop loving my son, even if he murdered someone. I’d be broken hearted, but I’d still love him. It makes me so angry that Josh’s family turned him out like that. I’m glad Josh has found a new family. Lots of luck to him!!!
I grew up as a Mormon, and I actually came out to them when I was 35, i'm 39 years old now. It was the most terrifying thing I have ever experienced. Both my parents are devout Mormons, and there was times prior to me coming out to them, where they would make comments towards gay people they would see on TV, such as, look at that queer. When I did come out to them, they turned and looked at me and said, we have always known. They didn't disown me, they kept me and to this day, I still have a strong relationship with my family. The only reason why I think they did accept me was because of a Daughter of the Bishop. They're daughter came out as lesbian and accepted her. I don't go to church, I would not be accepted unless I changed who I was. Religion is a fickle thing, and unfortunately, it's based on the person, and also the person who teaches it.
I was so hesitant about to click on this video, and God knows that reading the comments is stressful, but I was surprised. I’m so thankful that this video is out there, helping individuals in the sexual minority that they are not alone, and that there are others who have strong faith (no matter what religion ) and Are LGBT+
What is so Beautiful about a perverted REPROBATE that thinks it's "opinion" is above God's law against him...This guy confirms why no homosexual will inherit the kingdom of heaven nor the earth 1 Cor 6:9-11, Rev 21-8. What more 'Wonderful, Speical' is the fulfillment of God's prophecy of destruction for the homosexual, your FOOLISHNESS, chaos, and confusion, will end forever AMAN!
@Jan Wright you're hilarious. What kind of religious homophobe piece of trash is watching a series about queer people? Methinks you're deep, deep in that closet. Better come out before you suffocate in self-shame. What a horrible life you must live. I *almost*, almost, feel bad for you. Oh, and who the fuck claims to be so religiously self-righteous while spelling the word "amen" as "aman"? You're so fake is ridiculous.
@Jan Wright I wasn't saying you're in the closet simply because you spoke out against homosexuals, I said it because you spoke out against homosexuals *in the comments section under a video that is entire about homosexuals*. If you hate them so much and you believe your invisible sky wizard hates them too then what the hell are you doing in the comments section of a video entirely about them? You MUST have some kind of curiosity about them and it's probably because you share the same thoughts. There are things in this world that I hate and it would be ridiculous for me to go looking up videos about those things and getting into arguments in the comments with the group of people who support those things. That would be the biggest waste of my time that I could possibly think of, so what exactly are you doing here? You're not going to convince anyone of your bullshit because the vast majority of us are here because we support the subject in the video which should be entirely obvious to anyone with even half a brain. I watch videos and docs on subjects that I have a curiosity toward, to learn and to support, which is what every sane person does. Your god is made up, and if he did exist he would surely love all his creations, he wouldn't be the twisted hatemongerer that you and your ilk for some reason believe him to be, that is insanity. You need to learn how to spend your time in a productive way because you're doing nothing but wasting it here. What a fool you are.
Anyone who denies their own chance for eternal life knowing they will die is a DUMB ASS take a look at a graveyard MORON you fail to see. You created nothing in the universe you have the foolishness to think you can make a declaration over it, no wonder God put a limit on the lifespan of why we have a birth date and a death date which your STUPID ASS has no control over. Why would God give eternal life to a bunch of unaccepting, unbelieving, sexually perverted, REPROBATE, self-opinionated, too stupid to see the truth MORONS like you who think they know it all. God loves us all but he hates the sin in us that's why we all die Rom 3;23 and Rom 6:23, I'm sure your too much of a REPROBATE DUMB ASS to understand that but I'll try to explain...A fireman loves his arson neighbor but hates the fires he sets, A Soldier loves his enemy neighbor but hate he has to kill him in battle, see how that works? Why would God give eternal life to a bunch of MORONS who can't figure out and use the body he put them in the way he intended? Rom 1:25-8. You are the proof of God DUMB ASS your FOOLISH "opinion" confirms why the world is full of chaos and confusion, I'll bet you think the world is in good shape according to your mind. Do you ever think about why there's war, hunger, murder, lying, stealing, sexual deviancy, adultery, drunkenness, sickness, and death etc? When you see those babies on Tv born with horrific sicknesses and horrendous deformities just give your self a pat on the back because you deserve it, better yet go to one of the hospitals and kick one in the face and tell they are sick because of disbelief like yours. None of the FOOLISHNESS in the world is God's fault which I'm sure you'll sit up on your SILLY ASS and declare it is because that's that's the way DUMB ASS REPROBATE thinks.
@Jan Wright I don't even understand what you're saying anymore, just a bunch of capslock cursing and spewing hate, which I'm so sure god loves you for right? What makes you such a hateful person? And what in the hell are you even saying anymore? You're saying we don't have eternal life because of ME?? What about you? Aren't you just as much proof considering you're not immortal either? You're just full of hate and hypocrisy. If god hates anyone then surely it's the people like you who have no capacity for love or acceptance or forgiveness. You are a cancer to this world, all you do is spread hate. I've never seen such a hypocrite in my life. I'm done with the conversation, there's no way you'll ever learn how to be a decent human. Filth, utter filth.
Elijah’s story honestly made me cry. I wish I had his strength. I feel just how hard it is to be trans even within the queer community sometimes and it brings me down some days. Things have improved for the community at large, but trans rights and acceptance still lag behind. When will I finally feel like people see me, for me? But this gives me some sense of hope- that there _are_ accepting communities out in the world, I just need to find them.
I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. As a bisexual man I understand the struggle of those who are raised in the so-called truth. I haven't told my parents or relatives about the relationships I've had with other men cause I'm afraid thell will turn their backs on me and never speak to me again.
this series is amazing Ryadh. though I'm an American male who is struggling with bisexuality / bicuriosity, the way you show the facets of gayness and the way this series portrays the LGBT community and talks about issues within it is super interesting. growing up and going to a Catholic school as well as having a quite religious and conservative extended family, this particular episode is great. I love how this episode was meant to shed light on issues and to show support for struggling people, but you were also so respectful and asked real, non-judgmental questions to that Doctor over Skype. that one call showed me this series would be great; you were approaching that call from a standpoint of seeking information. it obviously seemed like a very hard call to have, I know it would be for me, but you didn't argue with him and were admirably respectful. love this series.
I’m trans also and I also chose the name Eli, and oh my god it’s such a pain in the ass because everyone calls me Ellie! But I’ve had the name so long and it’s become such a part of me that would never change it.
Riyadh your a total legend!!! I love you so much!! and big thanks to the BBC for helping Riyadh make this wonderful series!! the LGBTQ+ community appreciates this more than you know!! and thank you for posting it on RUclips so we can enjoy it here in the USA ❤💛💚💙💜
I identify as a Gay Christian and proud of who I am and how my faith continues to grow. I have been blessed to change hearts and open minds through the passion I have for love and acceptance through the TRUE Christian belief
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Tbh I'm just myself. I believe God doesn't hate me for who I am. It's just the Religious society hates us. And I don't feel like I should be sorry for who I am.
Petronella Biko depends who you talk to. If you are committed to Jesus and God then those who also do the same would try to change you because otherwise....you arent going to heaven.
You would be in a constant state of sin. You arent repenting and then trying to stay away from that sin. I believe in Mark it says only the most die hard Christians will make it (Not the actual words).
Like being a Gay Christian is kind of an oxymoron.
Personally idc what you do. That is your life. Just dint be having sex in the middle of the street. I wouldnt like it if a straight couple did it
Well said.
PGHGOD you still seem bigoted somehow
Do you know the definition of the word bigoted? It means "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions." What part of what he said seemed intolerant to other people? He literally said I don't care what you do, that's your life.
Tolerance doesn't mean agreement, and calling someone names like bigot because they disagree with you funnily enough makes you a bigot yourself
BrittDawggg Arf Arf! Personally I think the word "bigot" is ignorant. The definition is stupid. "Intolerant of others opinions." I understand that, but someones opinion can be wrong...Am I intolerant for pointing out if someones opinion is wrong? No.
"The Earth is flat." NO!!! It doesnt make sense. That opinion is wrong! Am I intolerant? I dont think so. Honesty and intolerant are 2 different things.
Flat earth having people....hdkdnfmmtkfifnrn. Ever got into an argument about that? Most frustrating shit ever. I tried to understand and listen too. I sat there. Listened. Asked for a drawing and everything. Fuck that opinion.
As you can see I have had a bad experience with flat earth people
"Let god burn them quickly???" I haven't heard that much venom spat in a while. Very Christian. Love the neighbour
jus wuzz As a Christian I can safely say that is one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever heard. Trust! That is not Christianity. Love wins.
READ THEM, BBZ!
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Not all love wins. But I definitely agree with the fact that 'let god burn them quickly' are not words that should come out of a Christians mouth
i am a christian universalist. unfortunately most christians believe that unless you accept jesus you go to hell. on that basis the nazis are in heaven while their victims - fellow jews like jesus was are in hell
Christians love neighbours but hate the sin. There is a difference between loving a person who is sinful and telling everybody that the sin is not actually a sin.
I just dont understand how in this short life you could disown your child because they are gay! I just dont get it! Absolutely heartbreaking. 💔
Charis Sijuwade Agreed! It's so heartless. My mum is religious but she accepted me for being gay. In fact, when someone questioned how her attitude didn't align with her religion she said "if my religion forced me to choose between it and my son, I'd choose my son every time". I've never forgot that.
Charis Sijuwade am gay and if am gonna come out now my dad would disown me
Abdulaziz Kadabashi sry you are in such a family. Just make sure you ONLY come out when you know you are safe.
Charis Sijuwade GAYS CAN'T REPRODUCE, THEY HAVE TO RECRUIT.
Donald J. Trump aren't most gays born to straight couples ?
Man can't throw out a bible but Jehovah's can throw away their son?
That is an ignorant statement. Jesus died in YOUR place! It should be you who die because of your sins, we should all experience second death (death of our soul) because or our sins.
Jesus suffered and died so you don't have to!
Because of Jesus sacrifice, you have the opportunity to live forever in paradise but if you reject this beautiful love act, then you will stand before God after death and be judged. After that there will be punishment.
It is your choice. It is heartbreaking for me but so many people choose hell in this life.
If you saw what hell is like, you would run to Jesus as fast as you can seeking forgiveness.
Seek Him now, tomorrow may be too late.
@@whoaretheyhiding798 allha hu akbar
Mste That’s because he’s a good person.
The War on Children “dying once” isn’t that big of a sacrifice for a immortal being
Jehovah's Witness is a satanic cult that manipulates its members. These parents don't really hate their son, they have just been brainwashed. There are now millions of ex-Jehovah's Witnesses who have escaped this dangerous cult.
How much pain and suffering has it caused that some people in the bronze age wrote that being gay is wrong? How immoral to hate people because who they are.
IKR! Jesus loves everyone. Yet hate preachers only want to preach hate.
There is no evidence THOSE PEOPLE thought ill of homosexuals...lol.
@@kevinboone2178 ya, let's completely disregard Sodom and Gomorrah
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Ezekiel 16:49
Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
Welp time to read your bible again and stop cherry picking :)
@@hatterymadnessaj3562 I'm not Christian, still doesn't change the fact that God destroyed those cities for being rotten. Does it not remind you of the, let's say, west?
wow regardless of religion.. to abandon a family member for being who they are.. that's so shameful.
JackyK it’s not who they r ! It’s the choice they are acting on and making
e2sguy provide one piece of evidence for that and I may believe you. Your sexual orientation isn’t a choice, and yes, it is part of who you are. You are born this way, and you will see if you try to be gay for a day. Did you chose to be straight? No. There is strong, strong evidence that you are born with your sexual orientation. It is not learned and not a choice.
@@checkmate2489 im going to state something that i hope does not offen u in any way. But its purly because of the adamic nature built into them.
In my opinion,(btw doesn't mean i don't respect urs) there is a natural law/order that was inforced by God, this law insures fruitfulness in terms of reproduction. In other words, this natural law is for a man and a woman to reproduce, since the bible says to adam(male) and eve(female) "be fruitful and multiply".
So sadly homosexuality is defying that natural order and law, and as much as I hate to say it that's why homosexuality is a sin. Don't get me wrong the person is not a sin(That's why you should always love and care for that person no matter what there sexuality is) but unfortunately what there proceeding to act on is the sin.
Note: I just wanna reiterate that sin is just a way of saying, an action that goes against god. And homosexuality goes against the natural order given by God.
I hope this helps in terms of understanding if u need a little more explaination on any parts just ask and I will duly do my best to answer though the help of god.I pray that you have a really blessed day today, a day full of joy and peace. Amen, God bless ya😁.
peniel 789 : thank you for explaining to me your point of view. I'm not religious so I don’t always understand everything, but in your belief, God created everything, right? Humans and animals and vegetation and the planets? If that's the case, then He's all-powerful. If that too is the case, then why didn’t He just create humans and animals to be exclusively heterosexual? He could certainly do it, if He created everything in the first place.
Also, by your definition, doesn’t that mean heterosexual couples who adopt or are infertile are also a sin? Because your reason given was that homosexual couples don't reproduce, and neither do some heterosexual couples, so technically by your logic some heterosexual couples are a sin.
Finally, as I stated before, I am not religious. I don’t believe for or against God; I am agnostic and I simply admit that I don’t know as there's no way of knowing. Should my right to marry the person that I love be taken away by someone else’s beliefs? By someone who's life would not be affected in any way by me marrying that person?
@@checkmate2489 wow thank you also for your reply, ur actually gifted in the aspect of interpretations and asking.
But if I'm honest with you I don't have all the answers, but God does. And ik that you don't particularly believe in God, but I suggest that if u want the best aswers, call out to him and ask.
But for now, I simply adress some of the things that God placed in my heart and mind.
God gave us free will, so that we are not forced by anything to act the way that we want. He did this so that he can purly test our willingness and love for him thoughout the way we live our lives. So in essence, are we living a life that glorfys God? That is a question I often ask myself.
Moreover, touching on the fact of why God didn't make the natural order to be homosexuality, is something that is beyond me, it's a mystery and only God knows. But what what I do know is that u gotta have faith, for faith is believing despite not having the answers or being in a mystery. Therefore I belive that if the bible says the natural order is for opposite sexes to reproduce then i will have the faith to belive it.
Also u stated that based on my logic homosexual couples are a sin, and I actually belive that it is not a sin for a homosexual couple to adopt or infertile a child, since that is an act of love towards the right direction. This is because in the bible it states that we should help the weak and defenceless and that we should treat others as you would treat yourself therefore I'm sure everyone would want a loving and caring family, despite there sexuality. Touching on the fact of loving and marrying someone of the same sex, yes that is a sin and it is unforunatly love that is going in the wrong direction. Eventhough it may not feel wrong like it, but its defying what God's word is saying, this doesn't mean that god doesn't love those ppl, in fact he loves them so much that he died on the cross for them! So that when father God looks as his people he sees the sacrifice of Jesus and becasue of that he cannot hate that person but rather he love that person so much. That the good news of the bible really, that god gave his only begotten son so that we may inherit eternal life with him(aka heaven).
Also something that I see a lot with so called 'Christians' is that they are very judgmental. It's like they never sinned before, but gurrrlll I'm telling u know rn they properly done more sinsthen most homosexual people, for we all have sinned thus who are we to judge others for the same thing that we ourselves are doing, yano?
Additionally, in the bible it says that there is no levels to sin meaning that a little white lie is on the same level as a murder, showing that in God's eyes were all the same, and he loves us the same no matter what we have done!he loves us the same when we're doing the worst thing we've ever done to when we're doing the most amazing thing we've ever done.
So yeah, sorry I couldn't answer everything, I leave the rest for God. It's really nice discussing this with you, God bless you and don't ever forget ur amazing and ur loved by God!😁
How can your parents simulatainiously love you and never want to talk to you?
Solar because your wicked
@@magpierandoms6272 I don't believe in religion at all, but I still love God. Religion is man made, and because of that it has become curputed. Being a Christian for me isn't about religion at all, being a Christian means that I belive in Christ and what he has to say, not what man has to say.
Peace love and joy is what I wish upon ur life, God bless u and have a great day today😁.
Lots of parents are pretty narcissistic.
I’m thinking that maybe talking with their son will also get them removed from the church. Remember this church is their whole life, belief, friends & maybe some of their other children will abandon them. It’s a very difficult decision to make
it is called conditional love.
That naming ceremony was deeply moving. The Jesus I know and love came for the 'misfits' and 'outcasts' in particular - not because He defined them as such or that they should be defined that way, but to show society that they had no right to judge and He didn't give a toss about their 'labels.' God's love is all-conquering. God bless Elijah and Oasis Church for demonstrating what true non-judgemental love, acceptance, courage and support looks like!
Rosalind Pearl His story moved me to tears! I only wish I could find such a loving and accepting church for myself.
Rosalind Pearl do they accept other perverts too like child molesters rapists and incest relationships
@@e2sguy You say 'other' as if being gay makes you a pervert. I could only hope you're not that ignorant and misinformed.
THE BIBLE TEACHES NO HOMOSEXUALS WILL GO TO HEAVEN..TO PRACTICE SODOMY AND GO TO CHURH IS A PERVERTED WAY OF LIFE , THE ANUS WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE PENETRATED BY ANY OBJECT.. INCLUDING A PENIS
JESUS ALSO GIVES US NEW CLEAN 💖 HEART AND OUTLOOK..IF ONE IS PROPERLY SAVED..ONE MAY SPEND A LIFETIME IN MACDONALDS BUT THIS WILL NOT TURN YOU INTO A BEEFBURGER..GOING TO CHURCH DONT MAKE U A CHRISTIAN..HILLSONG IS NOT A CHURCH ITS A NEW AGE NITECLUB..REF TO CARL LENTZ WHO IS A SEX ADDICTED LUSTFULL ADDICT WHO DELIGHTS IN SHOWING OFF HIS PUBES..HE WOULD SHAG A HAIRY SPORN ...
Loss of your parent by rejection does NOT kill you. It may feel like it but one survives and lives fulfilled.
Amazing how Jesus NEVER.ONE.TIME even mentioned the word gay......but he had quite a bit to say about divorce.
#justsaying
"This is my new commandment that I give unto you, that you love one another, as I have loved you....."John 13:34
Peter-John de Kock I like divorce to be honest
Jesus didn’t have to say “don’t rape, molest children, or screw another man in his shit hole, to say its wrong” some things go without saying. But just because it’s wrong doesn’t mean there bad ppl.
@@Bradmhj Rational and enlightened people know there's a difference between loving and consensual relationships between adults, and raping children. But...that's just us. Your ignorance is breathtaking.
Yeah... because the word gay didn't actually mean homosexual back then...
"For you created my inmost being;
you wove me together in my mother’s womb."(Jer1:5)
Elijah's church is what churches should be. So much love. It's amazing. I wish all parts of religion were like that.
Elijah is so adorable. I'd be with him.😍😍
The question is very good. You can ask the question to people, to parents , friends , but better is to ask it to the person who is asked the question of, or to people who heard His answer .
But is is better far better to ask the question to and get the answer from God. But that is only for people who really care about finding out themselves who God is. And God wants to receive people into His presence , of which there He opened a Door, and a way to walk . Jesus .
Anybody can come to Jesus, as this pastor said , as Jesus will not put away anybody away. But coming to Jesus and entering through him is a lifechanging experience . And that is that . And then the bible will start making sense, and your mouth will much less harsh criticising and outspoken. Humble and lowly of heart . And argumenting and scolding and divisions are stopping. Because it's only Jesus who changes people and bring them into the herd.
He is awesome. And He loves us all!!!
Exactly.. Every church could be like that if they wanted to... they just want to hide behind their ignorance imo
i love his church so much
I have a church where they accept lgbtq+. And my grandpa is a paster. My family accepts lgbtq+, but i dont know what they would think if their own daughter was bi. Should i be worried?
YOUR ACCENT....... I swear your accent is medicine for me. I'm suffering with Tonsillitis right now and your accent has made me feel SO much better
Oasis Church clearly has their priorities straight. That ceremony made me cry.
This is why we didn't let you vote for thousands of years.
@Mark Cooke Homophobia is an abomination before God. And yes you should be sorry for your mistake because same sex marriage is not even mentioned in the Bible, so stop lying!
EVERY CHURCH SHOULD LET ANYONE INSIDE TO WORSHIP JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD!!!!💗
lol idiot.. theres 1000 church variants... either bible is true or not.. clear people know its stupid
I want to hug Elijah ❤ what a beautiful church to accept and support him!
Josh's story is absolutely shocking , I can't believe that his parents could not look past there own flesh and bloods sexuality And I was completely un aware that this sort of thing was happening in the uk.
Don't be stupid sunhilram, The brits are incredibly accepting of gays as a whole.
tom minnock maher This happens everywhere though. Literally the same shit happened to me and a cousin of mine out of town and we’re from Az. There’s many people that out there religion first and family love second. It’s very messed up but it’s there choices not ours. These kinds of people n parents and scared to go against the religion usually but unlike my family on my dads side they don’t care. They just hate any kind of LGBT peoples. So for them to do this to me and a cousin of mine is on them fully. I miss em but I won’t lie to be with them lmao. But nah for real this happens to a lot of people. It’s not new.
It really is so very sad. Also, there are so many LG-T teenagers that are homeless and living off the street and out of shelters in both Los Angeles and in New York City in the U S because they were kicked out and disowned by their bigoted religious family that would rather believe in something that Homophobic Biblical Man wrote thousands of years ago instead of loving their child as God made that child to be.
@Scott Summers And that's why people abhor religion, it turns people into monsters sometimes
Unfortunately you can be cast out of Jehovah's Witnesses for far less than that.
I have known many who have lost their families because of behaviour unbecoming. 2 have resulted in successful suicides, ironically a cardinal sin, several others have sought refuge in narcotics etc. or just failed to kill themselves.
People in this situation have lost all the support they had and if they don't find a supportive group fast life is exceptionally hard for them.
If my family were religious and chose religion over me, I would disown them before they could disown me, I wouldn't want to be part of a family like that
Many gay Christians disown their religious families knowing that Jesus and other true Christians are their true family.
That's easy to say, but they are still your family, its got to be so difficult.
@Scott SummersSummers they also include not sleeping outside of marriage or with a woman on her period, or allowing women who've had their period in the temple, etc. and keeping the Sabbath (ie Friday) holy and not working during that day. so by your logic converted Jews are the only real Christians. or are we forgetting that many of the ritual purity laws of Moses were said to not apply to gentiles????
In my Church (I am Catholic) the priest says that no matter my sexual orientation God loves me and he'll always will
Eduardo Campos so I am 13 and I was always taught that being gay was wrong but I knew I was. I’m also catholic and I think I’m a sinner, does your priest say that it’s a sin though?
@@numb__toeverything784 being gay is not a sin, it's a perfect normal thing across the animal kingdom! (:
@@numb__toeverything784 I'm 14 so feel free to skip this if you want.
You say you were taught being gay was wrong. You also say you are gay, but if you ever have a doubt, think to yourself "if I hadn't been taught this way, would I still think it was wrong?" Trust me, you're not a sinner, you are who god made you to be. God made you this way, for a reason. Because you are you.
Always remember, God does not make mistakes.
@@magpierandoms6272 hey, im not religious, but that's just rude. If people want to follow a religion, let them. It won't kill you
@@magpierandoms6272 it can do the same to me, im queer, im female, and if you're that scared of being thrown off a roof or into a lake, move to a bungalow in the desert. If you don't like religion, keep it to yourself. Anyway, if I'm gonna die for being me, pfft, strike me dead cuz I won't change. Religions can get weird, but that's no reason to tell people to stop. They have free will
After Elijah finished his speech and everyone started clapping I could feel tears forming in my eyes. When some people actually stood up, clapping encouragingly, the tears started to roll down my cheeks. Something like this is really important to me and I'm so glad this exists.
Riyadh is amazing. I fortunately grew up in a non religious household but i thought as myself as christian (in the UK, primary school is filled with religious poems and hymns we have to sing... also in year 3-6 it was very religious.) and i finally came out when i was 17 as a lesbian. Even my grandma who i thought was very homophobic... it turns out she wasn't. I was so surprised. And i'm so happy to be accepted. I'm so sorry for everyone who hasnt had this experienced. You are loved. There are communities that do accept you. Stay safe x
This brought me to tears. THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE IS SO IMPORTANT
Elijah's church, that is what it's about, how hard can it be?! Beautiful!
Loved seeing how supportive the congregation was of Elijah
Hello, me too, I grew up as a Jehovah's Witnesses boy but since I accepted myself as a gay man, it is not the case anymore. Thank you for doing this video!!!
I hope you're a Christian now?
There are many people who have walked away from the bondage of religion and turned to Jesus.
I was a Mormon once. I left that religion and never looked back. I'm now a Christian.
@@adamgoodword7888 all different shades of the same shit mate
@@adamgoodword7888 But whatever works i guess as long as its not being intolerant to others
They tried to drag me up a JW just cos my Da decided after years of beating people up for lookin at him the wrong way that he should now live peacefully and go round the doors telling others how they should live in peace. Haha they already werre. he ws the only mad B that wasnt. hahaha. They used to drag me round the doors with them, usually when i was grounded. The funniest time was when i was forced to go along to their Kingdom hall then round the doors cos my dad wasnt letting me out of his sight after discovering the previous day that i had dropped a shit load of Acid and was still tripping my box off on a black microdot when i went. Had all these smileyy-woileys up going "Oh! its lovely to see you coming yo our meetings. Are you a believer now?"...."Erm! Purple?"......LOL
I am sooooo proud of you Riyadh for doing this eye opening documentary about the LGBTQ and religion. This has been very uplifting and heartwarming.
I love that you have a BBC series !!! PLEASE do more ! This is amazing ! You really need your own show !
IM ADDICTED !! WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE!!?? XX
This programme is heartbreakingly good. I personally have lost all faith over the last 25 years simply because of the kind of views expressed in this film. Why people can't just accept people for who they are, who they love and how they want to live their lives is beyond me, basing their belief on just a 'book' and not looking with their own two eyes.
Why would you lose your faith because of human kind? We are all evil and do evil things. don't listen to the haters ;) I'm proud catholic and I love all and so does God.
no, we are not all evil. that's a depressing way of seeing things for a catholic.
But the Bible is supposedly the word of God right? And if there are passages against homosexuals to be found then isn't that God's order on what is right & wrong
We aren't "evil" I guess, but we are made for greatness but we all still sin. Humankind has done evil things and we'll continue to do evil things. It's not depressing, it's realistic.
If you do research, there really isn't any point in the Bible that is homophobic. There's an informational video here on RUclips about it if you wish to do research. I think it's called "what does the Bible actually says about homosexuality". My God doesn't hate anyone.
Riyadh K, This is a truly amazing TV Show. I am in the US and would love to see shows like this on the air here. Thank you and the BBC for doing what you doing! Please keep up the great work!
Too much ignorance, division and fear and not enough love and acceptance in our society
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Christopher Brown tolerance and love aren’t the same
Raymond when did he say anything about tolerance
Christopher Brown I blame religion
It works both way Christopher. Christians are under attack from LGBT because they believe the bible.
@@Rayblondie 1st think about who have killed more in history. Then and only then can we talk abt. tolerance.
🇦🇺 Australia just legalised gay marriage a couple of hours ago. So proud.
Malleus Scotorum people should be allowed to love anyone they want to because that's just who they are
In Canada it’s been 14 years
Malleus Scotorum yeah that they didn’t do it sooner
Malleus Scotorum why? 😘
Malleus Scotorum where you at I just wanna talk
3:27 "He wants us to be happy, and he knows how we can be happiest. That's why he invented marriage the way he did."
I spat my drink out at that. Seriously?
GOD DOESNT HATE ANYONE
Tell that to all the cities, and whole ethnic groups he murdered and condemned in the bible LOL "MU GUD DONT H8 NAHH ONE" * < Yeah, because he murdered as many as he could.
Trinity G.C except gays
The entire bible wasn't written by Peter, and he didn't make himself the first pope because there wasn't a structured church when he was alive and he was murdered not long after Jesus' death.
god doesnt hate human beings however doesn't like sins
So gays just have to be celibate - then they will go to Heaven?
I love the beginning of these series! It's great to have these issues raised through mainstream media, and show what some of the LGBTQ community have and are going through because of their sexuality and way of life.
Celebrating the uniques and educating each other of people's differences normalises everything to those who are unaware of others.
I am also from a small town in what felt a very conservative society, where ideally no one wanted to hear of your differences, that made growing up difficult.
Coming to London has definitely made me confident in who I am and that is feeling good in your own skin cannot be more important.
Live on and love on :)
Great work Riyadh K and BBC team!
OMG Riyadh, thank you so much for being a part of this. Lately been thinking of giving up church completely, but it just doesn’t feel right. Haven’t found my tribe yet. This is so encouraging!!! Forever grateful!
Religion and hatred destroys everything good!
Riyadh you’re doing a fantastic job🙌🏽👏👏
God created man, man created religion.
People choose religion because God/Jesus are no longer enough for them.
Jesus is the only way, the truth, the life and the light of the world.
Without Jesus there is no life.
In religion there is only death.
Choose Jesus.
God bless.
This was so well made and interesting. I MAY have cried a tiny bit. Can't wait for the next episode!
I am ecstatic to find this series. This will help our community. Keep it up and spread the love.
elijah is an inspiration. thank you for this documenter
Hey, I'm from Germany and I'm delighted by this series!!! A big THANK YOU to everyone involved!!!
I am a Christian. I'm also Ace. I appreciate Elijah's story.
OMG RIYADH SO PROUD OF U!!!!!
Thank you Oliver!
Hi Oliver. Just curious, what exactly is it that you are proud of?
Oliver Higgins GAYS CAN'T REPRODUCE, THEY HAVE TO RECRUIT.
Beautiful episode for a series that promises to be quite fascinating and deep!
Thank you Riyadh, to be so open and understanding, and to bring a particular light on every situation. I loved how the programme gives a broad and open view on such a difficult issue. It is so easy to have strong responses to religion, but Riyadh manages to show different situations for different individuals. In the end, we can realise the importance of belonging to a community, being accepted for who you are, being loved and cherished for who you are.
I'll follow the programme with real enthusiasm, thank you BBC Three to propose such quality content! It is really important, and necessary, I believe.
Thank you for this video, this is the content I search for. Thank you so much!
So glad you liked it
When I finish watching this video. I can say that I was so luck to have my parents support me for who I am. My mother love me as I am. She just wants the best for me and to be happy.
You guys need to subtitle this series! It's got great educational potential that's been lost because of a lack of translation! I could do it myself to Portuguese.
god doesn't hate us he made us this way. why would he hate his own creation
Mourinho The bus driver God makes no mistakes, but you did when you wrote that comment.
Rachael Marshall thanks x and so true the only mistake that are made is my humans not god you make your own choice in life and Rachael you made the right one thanks ;-)
Renata Valentina my mum and dad made me but thanks for trying.
His own creators.
Renata Valentina are who made Satan
YASSSS IVE BEEN WATING FOR THIS !!! LOVE U riyadh SOOO PROUD. GOD LOVES EVERYONE. IM A CHRISTIAN. XXXX
BUNNIE_GURL how can you think that when god is supposed to be omnipotent meaning he knew when he told people to put it in the bible that for thousands of years...literally thousands of years gay people would be tortured, ostracised and murdered for what he had written into the bible
the incredibly nasty god character portrayed in the old and new testaments certainly despises gays - he warrants the torture and death of many in the bible (and when he is not doing that he is giving out justifications for slavery, ethnic cleansing and the treatment of women as objects - merely the property of men). A horrific, hateful piece of literature responsible for the suffering and death of millions over thousands of years.
David 527 ...oh yes indeedy. This bullshit causes WARS.
This is so touching, thank you for making this video.
Beautifully done. The stories of people who are overcoming great challenges are presented with warmth and respect. I hope other people in the United States will be able to see this.
Omfg this is what I’ve needed! Thank you lord!
Riyadh, congratulations on being a BBC Presenter. I'm now watching from Baltimore, Md across the pond. I love your enthusiasm and love for our worldwide community of 🏳️🌈!
Thank you to Elijah's church for showing TRUE Christianity! Honestly, what a better, safer place to be than in the hands and arms of a good, good Father God!
"So you do it from the goodness of your own heart :)"
Omggggg the shade lmao
i really needed this programme
Such a fantastic series! The work you are doing here Riyadh is so important and I am grateful that people can watch here on RUclips.
I do understand that to some people faith is really important but what I don't understand is how faith can be more important than the happiness of your own child? Parents should love their children unconditionally!
Awesome documentary, keep up the great work.
"faith"???
You mean religion.
Faith is believing in something.
Faith should be important to every single person on this planet. Faith and trust go hand in hand.
It's not a question of faith but of religion.
People put religion first because the prefer religion and deception to the truth.
Only Jesus is the truth, yet people prefer to be like the religious pharisees of Jesus' day.
Religious people only think of themselves. They don't care who they have to sacrifice. They don't care who they have to disown. There is no love in their hearts.
Bruno Lazé Plus you can leave a church without leaving your relationship with God. Im coming out soon, so I’m leaving my church and going to an inclusive one. I still love Jesus.
Religion is so ironically evil sometimes
Religion is inherently evil. Religion is not of God.
God created man, man created religion.
Jesus only ever wanted us to follow Him.
Jesus warned us against religion and religious pharisees.
So are many things, irony just doesn't apply to religion, take a look in the mirror, we are all inherently and potentially evil!
Beautiful
@@molossergirl2 and as religion is man made then that explains a lot.
I think "sometimes" is an understatement
Riyadh please do more documentaries! So good :)
I love that religion is being shown in not just its negatives but the positives as well. There can be love in religion, it can help save people from losing hope entirely.
Thank you, Riyadh! I like your work a lot. Go ahead, please.
I was also born into a Muslim household. Realized I was gay and became an atheist quick fast. LOL, I couldn't have anything to do with an institution so filled with rules and regulations and I'm glad for my sexuality because it lead me to become an atheist. I don't really have a relationship with my family, but I've accepted that. There is too much hurt there for us to be in each other's lives.
Glad josh has got a family 🏳️🌈
This church is the definition of being a good Christian. All other churches I've been in like to think they're Christian, but this church really practises what it preaches.
“Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”
― Steven Weinberg
Great programme, well done mate! And I LOVE LOVE LOVE the OASIS church, it's incredible. There's one like this in Bournemouth as well.
I became a born again Christian at 12 and struggled with my sexuality until I was 38. I had become a minister from age 16 till I came out and lost my ministry. I love God and believe He loves me unconditionally. I would like to open a shelter for homeless LGBTQ youth some day.
krinkov545 youre not a good person, this man is
@@dandaropa wise words Danny devito 👌
The bible was written by man not by God.
I totally agree with that.
Yes yes god didn't wrote bible or any other religious scripture. These are written by ill minded people.
Try telling them that,I have.
Rintu Das dumbass you’re basically calling Jesus ill minded because he said that and people wrote it in a book
Your statement is correct! it was physically written by man. But then how do u explain why so many different men have wrote the same/similar messages and stories? the only explaination for this is that God gave these people the same messages and stories so that it can be written physically into a book, aka the bible😁 (God achieves this through the power of the holy spirit💪🏾).
Overall, men did physically write the bible but God placed the thoughts and ideas into there minds, therefore the bible is the word of God and not man's.
Ps. I pray that whoever reads this will come to an understanding that God isn't against you, in fact he loves and cares for you so much that he died on the cross.... just.... for.....U. God bless you and have an awesome day!
i'm a christian but i am very open minded bcs i know what the bible said, it said that God comes for the sinner, that means every church must be open for every human♡♡ God loves you no matter what and i'm here for y'all♡♡♡ life is hard but.. keep going and be strong
Galaxy Krisho God hates sinners who refuse to repent
Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
We are all sinners. Every single person on this planet has fallen short of the glory of God.
Jesus died for all men.
There is hope in Jesus, but most religious preachers will not preach Jesus. They intentionally leave Jesus out of the picture so they can continue preaching their message of hatred, judgment and condemnation.
This was SO. GOOD. Inspiring, heartbreaking, celebratory. An exceptional storytelling.
Thank You so much for this Episode! I am on the same situation like Josh is - since Nov. 2014 not seen my parents who are JW! I do live in Weimar (Germany) and found soooo much love and friends and even beautiful people who love me because the way I am! Thank You Riyadh for this very good episode! Greetings
Riyadh you are amazing this is great!
Yes Riyadh. So proud of you!
Hi Sarah. Just curious What exactly are you proud of? Thanks in advance
Bless their hearts. I wish love and acceptance was all around. The only thing that matters is happiness and loving. No matter who that is towards.
I love how Riyadh is so respectful of the people he talks to even tho they are “against” him
A teaching from a God to disown, abandon, and cut ties with your own kin. Unimaginable, tragic, disheartening, and sad. I may not know how that person felt deep inside, but I have not even experience such thing and I'm already deeply scarred and hurting. I could not imagine going through life knowing that my own blood exist out there and I could not even express how thankful I am that they let me live in this world and how much I love and care for them. A teaching that has deprived an individual of a place of belonging, love, and faith. A teaching from teachings that is believed to bring unity and salvation to humans, but to me it seems to make humans fall more and divided.
The fact that they included the i aint gay no more clip made it 10 times better
When he said “basing it on a book” I was like that’s a risky place to go 😬😬
Josh is so lovely! If, by any chance, he come to Brazil, I think he would find some guys devoted to him, hahahaha
He is so cuteeee
Bruno Coelho O brasileiro é tão safado nunca deixa de falar quando alguém é bonito kkkkkkkkkkkk
Oh My god i'm crying happy tears when he meets Steve the man who runs that amazing accepting church. i've met him so many times when i went to one of his schools. I just remember little Bisexual Closeted me talking to him being upset and scared about who i was at the time not knowing how amazing this man really is oh my god
I cried with the letter written to Josh. There is nothing that could make me stop loving my son, even if he murdered someone. I’d be broken hearted, but I’d still love him. It makes me so angry that Josh’s family turned him out like that. I’m glad Josh has found a new family. Lots of luck to him!!!
I grew up as a Mormon, and I actually came out to them when I was 35, i'm 39 years old now. It was the most terrifying thing I have ever experienced. Both my parents are devout Mormons, and there was times prior to me coming out to them, where they would make comments towards gay people they would see on TV, such as, look at that queer. When I did come out to them, they turned and looked at me and said, we have always known. They didn't disown me, they kept me and to this day, I still have a strong relationship with my family. The only reason why I think they did accept me was because of a Daughter of the Bishop. They're daughter came out as lesbian and accepted her. I don't go to church, I would not be accepted unless I changed who I was. Religion is a fickle thing, and unfortunately, it's based on the person, and also the person who teaches it.
Am I the olny one who ships Riyadh and Josch?
BlueWolf Lp
the way they lean into each other when they talk... that can't be platonic
Emily Ritson haha true
Josh is so lovable tho!
PREACH!
BlueWolf Lp stop fetishising gay people aha
Mourinho The bus driver How about you keep your opinions to yourself ok??
I am a catholic homosexual..of course you can bring them together!!!
You can’t! I m sorry, you can be gay but you can’t practice it
But why would you want to? No one needs religion, especially if one of its tenants condemns who you are.
Hi Elijah! Way to go and your bravery inspires many to go on living with a real smile. Thank you!
I was so hesitant about to click on this video, and God knows that reading the comments is stressful, but I was surprised. I’m so thankful that this video is out there, helping individuals in the sexual minority that they are not alone, and that there are others who have strong faith (no matter what religion ) and Are LGBT+
But Jesus says "if you love me will keep my commandments" and "Go and sin no more"so clearly he must be against it. Right?
Beautiful! Elijah had me crying! Wonderful special.
What is so Beautiful about a perverted REPROBATE that thinks it's "opinion" is above God's law against him...This guy confirms why no homosexual will inherit the kingdom of heaven nor the earth 1 Cor 6:9-11, Rev 21-8.
What more 'Wonderful, Speical' is the fulfillment of God's prophecy of destruction for the homosexual, your FOOLISHNESS, chaos, and confusion, will end forever AMAN!
@Jan Wright you're hilarious. What kind of religious homophobe piece of trash is watching a series about queer people? Methinks you're deep, deep in that closet. Better come out before you suffocate in self-shame. What a horrible life you must live. I *almost*, almost, feel bad for you.
Oh, and who the fuck claims to be so religiously self-righteous while spelling the word "amen" as "aman"? You're so fake is ridiculous.
@Jan Wright I wasn't saying you're in the closet simply because you spoke out against homosexuals, I said it because you spoke out against homosexuals *in the comments section under a video that is entire about homosexuals*. If you hate them so much and you believe your invisible sky wizard hates them too then what the hell are you doing in the comments section of a video entirely about them? You MUST have some kind of curiosity about them and it's probably because you share the same thoughts. There are things in this world that I hate and it would be ridiculous for me to go looking up videos about those things and getting into arguments in the comments with the group of people who support those things. That would be the biggest waste of my time that I could possibly think of, so what exactly are you doing here? You're not going to convince anyone of your bullshit because the vast majority of us are here because we support the subject in the video which should be entirely obvious to anyone with even half a brain. I watch videos and docs on subjects that I have a curiosity toward, to learn and to support, which is what every sane person does.
Your god is made up, and if he did exist he would surely love all his creations, he wouldn't be the twisted hatemongerer that you and your ilk for some reason believe him to be, that is insanity. You need to learn how to spend your time in a productive way because you're doing nothing but wasting it here. What a fool you are.
Anyone who denies their own chance for eternal life knowing they will die is a DUMB ASS take a look at a graveyard MORON you fail to see.
You created nothing in the universe you have the foolishness to think you can make a declaration over it, no wonder God put a limit on the lifespan of why we have a birth date and a death date which your STUPID ASS has no control over.
Why would God give eternal life to a bunch of unaccepting, unbelieving, sexually perverted, REPROBATE, self-opinionated, too stupid to see the truth MORONS like you who think they know it all.
God loves us all but he hates the sin in us that's why we all die Rom 3;23 and Rom 6:23, I'm sure your too much of a REPROBATE DUMB ASS to understand that but I'll try to explain...A fireman loves his arson neighbor but hates the fires he sets, A Soldier loves his enemy neighbor but hate he has to kill him in battle, see how that works?
Why would God give eternal life to a bunch of MORONS who can't figure out and use the body he put them in the way he intended? Rom 1:25-8.
You are the proof of God DUMB ASS your FOOLISH "opinion" confirms why the world is full of chaos and confusion, I'll bet you think the world is in good shape according to your mind.
Do you ever think about why there's war, hunger, murder, lying, stealing, sexual deviancy, adultery, drunkenness, sickness, and death etc?
When you see those babies on Tv born with horrific sicknesses and horrendous deformities just give your self a pat on the back because you deserve it, better yet go to one of the hospitals and kick one in the face and tell they are sick because of disbelief like yours.
None of the FOOLISHNESS in the world is God's fault which I'm sure you'll sit up on your SILLY ASS and declare it is because that's that's the way DUMB ASS REPROBATE thinks.
@Jan Wright I don't even understand what you're saying anymore, just a bunch of capslock cursing and spewing hate, which I'm so sure god loves you for right? What makes you such a hateful person? And what in the hell are you even saying anymore? You're saying we don't have eternal life because of ME?? What about you? Aren't you just as much proof considering you're not immortal either? You're just full of hate and hypocrisy. If god hates anyone then surely it's the people like you who have no capacity for love or acceptance or forgiveness. You are a cancer to this world, all you do is spread hate. I've never seen such a hypocrite in my life. I'm done with the conversation, there's no way you'll ever learn how to be a decent human. Filth, utter filth.
"So you do it from the goodness of your heart" That sarcastic undertone😂
Beautiful Powerful and amazing.
Elijah’s story honestly made me cry. I wish I had his strength. I feel just how hard it is to be trans even within the queer community sometimes and it brings me down some days. Things have improved for the community at large, but trans rights and acceptance still lag behind. When will I finally feel like people see me, for me?
But this gives me some sense of hope- that there _are_ accepting communities out in the world, I just need to find them.
My heart BROKE when Riyadh read the letter......Devastated. Why do people treat their own family that way!? :(
I am so so so proud of Riyadh right now ❤️😆
I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. As a bisexual man I understand the struggle of those who are raised in the so-called truth. I haven't told my parents or relatives about the relationships I've had with other men cause I'm afraid thell will turn their backs on me and never speak to me again.
Omg, Riyadh, this is beautiful!!!!
this series is amazing Ryadh. though I'm an American male who is struggling with bisexuality / bicuriosity, the way you show the facets of gayness and the way this series portrays the LGBT community and talks about issues within it is super interesting. growing up and going to a Catholic school as well as having a quite religious and conservative extended family, this particular episode is great. I love how this episode was meant to shed light on issues and to show support for struggling people, but you were also so respectful and asked real, non-judgmental questions to that Doctor over Skype. that one call showed me this series would be great; you were approaching that call from a standpoint of seeking information. it obviously seemed like a very hard call to have, I know it would be for me, but you didn't argue with him and were admirably respectful. love this series.
I adore the Irish, "Never arrive to a party with swinging hands" made me melt. This was gorgeous. The presenter is gorgeous too and so charming! ♥
I’m trans also and I also chose the name Eli, and oh my god it’s such a pain in the ass because everyone calls me Ellie! But I’ve had the name so long and it’s become such a part of me that would never change it.
These "therapies" are now illegal in many countries, happily. BTW, Elihah is awesome! Love him!
Riyadh your a total legend!!! I love you so much!! and big thanks to the BBC for helping Riyadh make this wonderful series!! the LGBTQ+ community appreciates this more than you know!! and thank you for posting it on RUclips so we can enjoy it here in the USA
❤💛💚💙💜
I identify as a Gay Christian and proud of who I am and how my faith continues to grow. I have been blessed to change hearts and open minds through the passion I have for love and acceptance through the TRUE Christian belief
Steve explaining his church's ideologies had me on the cusp, but Elijah's naming broke me. I cried like a baby