I was taught growing up that being gay was a choice and that I shouldn't ever talk about it because it was a dirty topic. I remember being 7 years old and playing wedding with my best friend while my other friend videoed the "ceremony" with an old flip phone. When my mom found us, we were told to delete it and given a lecture about acting appropriately. I'll never forget the way my mother looked at me with disgust, or the fear in my best friends eyes when my mom mentioned her parents finding out. I'm still a lesbian and I'm still afraid, but I will never let hate stop me from embracing the love I feel.
@@roselichtman3810 It saddens me a lot of people in our community goes through such things. Wish everyone knows they're beautiful and should be proud no matter who or how they love. Sending love and good wishes :))
I love your content refinery29! This is as real as it gets and Grace and her team thank you for making this journey. God’s love calls all to him ♥️ love is love through and through ♥️
Aunty Agony yeah it’s true but don’t u think they have a right to voice their opinion anyone can do it no mater race sex sexuality and beliefs no one would like if someone took ur rights of voice u probably can’t change what they say but u can change if u decided to follow what someone saids.
“So once when i was 7 at my church was with this other church and we had a really homophobic teacher. She kept on yelling about how GOD IS RIGHT DONT BE GAY and how gay sex is bad like wtf we didn't know about that and didn't want to know. o idk she shouldnt have been talking about that to 7-year-olds (I'm still a Christian) So then she kept on yelling about how I DONT CARE IF THEYRE IN LOVE. I wanted to yell at her so much, she was really mean and innapropriate
Someone in my highschool art class went through conversion therapy. She said they would withhold food from her, deny water for days at a time, and burn her with lighters. Definitely torture.
@@karaokekid9025 it should be but, sadly it's not is a shocking amount of places. It's really horrifying to see how far people can go just to be 'normal' or to make others 'normal'
@@karaokekid9025 still legal in several states in the usa as of 2020. its upsetting that things like this are legal just because of people's religious beliefs
takes so much, imagine being told to divorce someone you love and then instead of anger, taking humour to it and be able to respond ‘thats a lot of paperwork jackie’. cant relate i’m afraid x
So they can nou have fight to choose Which people come in their comminty bushit this makes me so mad why can evrybody be gay bot no one can be against it is what you fucking self believe
@@dhnmiizgkeisd4073 they can be, but having an opinion is like having a penis, it is ok to be proud of it, it is ok to have it, but it is not ok to force it on someone or take it out in inappropriate situations.
I love that Grace can still find the humor in this very dark situation. Someone is insinuating that she has to get divorces because her love isn't holy, and her response is "That's a lot of paperwork." I aspire to be that calm and level-headed
Stu Stu Anyways we understand what your saying but it’s not your place to control someone’s life and choices let alone try and brainwash them and change who they are or want to be let people live
I love the phrase ‘people believe that God loves them but don’t feel much love from people who believe in God’. Powerful and true. The church is not God, neither are the people in it. 🌈
there’s a picture of me from when i was like 12 with a pride flag around my shoulders with two peace signs up while a bunch of people protest behind me
I was placed into conversion therapy in Catholic middle school with several other gay students. It was awful. We have religious trauma because of it, some of us now being atheist. I was kicked out of church and ridiculed for being lesbian. We were told such horrible things - We were going to hell. It’s a choice. That we were mentally ill. It’s a horrible experience.
@@Nonalhomophobie thank you. Unfortunately, it was a few years ago and I still can’t step one foot inside a church. I hope things like this can be taken into consideration when dealing with lgbtq religious youth.
After an experience like that I dont blame them for becoming athiest. How could men and women of god treat another person that is part of their own religion like that? I know there are religious people that are tolerant but after a trauma like that I imagine it would be very hard to even trust them
I'm a heterosexual but there is something I want to share with everybody: The most difficult thing in life is to find the love of your life! Never be ashamed who that person is. It is simply not important what other poeple think or say! They don't live your life, - and they don't make you happy anyway. Life is too short to think about what others think about you.
Unless they are under 18 or a animal! (I know at least a few of *those* people will use your comment to apply to them, they don't apply, that dosnt apply to them, that's abuse)
@@erm12302 it could for some, but overall it's not really going to work out like that if a lot of Christians still refuse to accept LGBTQIA+ people because 'it's against their religion' or other things.
@@erm12302 your actions are appreciated, and if you don't mind me asking, how do you yourself not accept or disagree with the LGBTQIA+ community? all it is is that's who that person loves, that's how that person identifies, that sort of thing. I mean no disrespect, but the idea not agreeing with that just kind of baffles me, honestly.
@@erm12302 I once again mean no disrespect, but disagreeing with 'what the community does' because it's against your religion is in its simplest form, not letting people be their true selves because someone a long time ago decided to make a bunch of rules and laws.
I’m straight and watching this has made me realize my privilege when it comes to dating. I’m allowed to love out loud, practice public displays of affection with no scrutiny and just be myself. It’s sad that others are deprived of that. That they don’t get to be who they are freely.
I'm straight, and I like kissing my wife in public whenever I feel like it. I don't want to deny that experience to anybody, that feeling of "yeah, if you're looking at us, we're in love, now deal with it".
Thank you for recognizing that. I’ve dated women who wouldn’t hold my hand in public because it offended other people and she was terrified someone would say something.
Thank you for realizing your privilege. The way you put it was really good. You will never really know what it's like, but it's people like you who can make a bridge, who can try to understand, who are the best allies in the world.
@Diddo That thought in itself is full of hate, bitterness , resentment and is very prejudiced. If there's no Freedom in America, then go where there is. There was no freedom where I was born so I and my family came to the U.S.
There’s a difference of “tough love” coming from a mob of strangers saying you’re sinful for simply existing and being happy. How do they not understand the amount of disrespect they are doing? It’s not their business in this world to do that to anyone. Omg.
Exactly. Tough love only works after you’ve built a strong connection w the person you’re trying to show tough love to, because due to the connection you have with them they know you mean well. A bunch of strangers calling people pedophiles and telling them that they’re going to burn in hell for eternity is not tough love nor is it love at all, it’s self righteousness and hate.
That's not tough love. Pure and simple. I'd usually write a paragraph about it, but I don't need to explain myself here. It's abuse. People should stop basically calling abuse "love."
For the sign at 1:52 “lesbians can’t raise kids” I would have walked over there and said turns out straight people can’t either cause there’s so many in the foster care system and walked away.
putting "matt in hell" on a sign is the most shitty thing you could possibly do, a young man was brutally murdered and instead of respecting a fellow human beings life, you defile his name and ridicule him for something as trivial as his sexuality.
In a way, it's sort of like the whole reply thingy with "omg a certain youtuber dad is in hell now" like it's a good thing, even though it's not. Such immature people I swear.
@@KristinA-xv4yk yes. To people not involved in your sexuality, your sexuality is trivial. Or at least it should be. Why do you need to worry about who I’m having sex with? It’s a trivial piece of information about my life that has no bearing on your life.
I agree with what you say, mostly. though I think a person’s sexuality isn’t necessarily “trivial” but it IS personal, and no one should defile anyone for whatever they hold personal. That’s their business. Judging anything about another people as trivial is just disrespectful.
Eli Capers right okay, using your logic then homophobia still exists. It’s the evil, it’s the darkness, and it’s wrong, because people can’t learn to accept.
Yeahhh LmAOO I love her much, she's so fun and hilarious, also seems to be respectful. "Did I do that right?" "I'm doubting everything. My faith, my ability to drive a car,- Am I even gay??" "Yeah, still am. That part hasn't changed." HHAHAHAHA her wife should be proud.
People who go to funerals with signs and megaphone like that deserve hell themselves. Interrupting people's time of grief with speeches about how their loved one is going to hell is appalling.
@@tired.vbplayer8973 or.. OR GENTLY *nudge* them with your car. We would blair death metal in the opposite direction as a paremeter barrier (only people 8ft away can hear the ceremony). Plus, puts babies right to sleep. If you have to babysit an fussy infant, try metal--seriously.
Im here to tell you just how dangerous this is. My friend was a mormon. At 14 he was sent to a conversion center to help him "work on" his issue. They did horrible, vile things to him in the name of god and what was "right" His family would send him back there several times until the age of 18 when they kicked him out. This is when i first met him. We were close friends very quick. He was so damaged mentally and physically that he used lots of drugs to numb himself. Looking back I would have done things so differently and intervened, tried harder, anything. Just to save his life. 3 months after his 20th birthday he overdosed on heroin and god knows what else. His birthday he seemed so alive for a change and his outlook was brighter. We joked about being able to legally drink in a year. Being that we drank all the time it was quite funny. I talked to him that Friday and he was dead on Sunday. So many things I wish i could've and should've said. Im 38 and I still miss him all these years later
@@ChristopherWaddelow because many others who care about my and my communities sexuality often have an intent to harm those who are not heterosexual. i care because i have empathy and don't want harm towards my community. there is a clear difference between hatred and support
@@ChristopherWaddelow Because literally the Bible says that God loves everyone no matter what they are and the reason why this can't be accomplished in this situation is because some people just can't at least accept that we exist? Im faithful to God, very very faithful, but fuck the church, the church doesn't decide what's right and wrong, it's God.
@@ChristopherWaddelow Because more often than not, the people OP is talking about hurt LGBT+ folks in some way or another. Them caring about it actually oppresses someone. Piss off with your false equivalencies.
I think that any Christian that has a deep respect for their beliefs and that actually knows the Bible is too occupied with serving and loving others to be harassing other people at gay parades. That's just pointless. It makes me sick to my stomach.
@@adaeze4873 If you're trying to help people then you first need to encourage them to believe and want to follow God. You will not draw them in by opening with "this is a sin that come with this consequence", you will only push them away and make them feel like enemies of the whole religion. Also, many other practices that were considered sinful are commonplace now such as divorce, but people have refrained from criticizing it because it is recognised that it is harmful to the persons state of mind and self esteem to be critical of it. Since we all know of someone who has gone through this, we can more easily relate to it, and not want people we feel akin to be harmed by such actions. So why then is it alright to harm the LGBT communities state of mind by criticizing something we feel we cannot change and is good for us even if you personally do believe it's a sin? Is there a double standard regarding some sin? Finally, while you and others may believe it is a sin to be gay, there are sects and Biblical interpretations that do not believe it is like this one: wouldjesusdiscriminate.org . Since we cannot prove beyond a doubt that your belief is any more correct than mine, we are at an impasse where we have to accept God as the only one who can judge and we can pray for mercy and guidance for each other. I would not try to force you to believe as I do and I appreciate it when others treat me with the same kindness. Peace be with you.
@@aubreywilliam9048 actually we do except the only people that you see are the radical pro life anti gay people rather than the real Christians that love all people.
As a straight Christian, here's to all LGBTQ+ Christians: you're loved. you're beautiful. you're strong. you matter. I'm so sorry for all the hate you receive, it's not fair at all. Please be kind to yourself.
@@jilzcrocks3470 says the person who's lifestyle choices consist of being complicit to eons of clergy abuse within the church walls Worry about your own broken soul
Hi, I’m a straight Christian. I was crying watching this. I’m so sorry stuff like this happens. We’re not all crazy. So much love to all, and I sincerely hope and pray life gets better.
9:50 "That's a lot of paperwork Jackie. I don't know what kind of time you think i have" i love how she's just cracking jokes even when Jackie is imply that her marriage is wrong
Because i am living prove of that.. Listen i don't like the way more christians approach this situation. i was never given christian therapy and that says a lot coming from a being a ministers daughter. My parents although knew Gods stance on it they showed me love. My dad even went as far as going with me to West Hollywood and condemn all those crazy christians that had signs that read God Hates gays. he stood across the street and instead preached about Gods love and would not side with the radical christians. he prayed for many and the impact of love my pop recieved was awesome. But i knew it was a sin.. I did not pray away the gay.. I simply said "Jesus i choose you and will do whatever it takes to have a true relationship with you. I need you to help me change because i cannot change myself".. He not only changed my sexuality but so many other things i had carrying with me. He wants us to willing ask and have the desire to choose him over our sin, no matter what that sin is. He changes..It's called a miracle. but if a person wants their sin and God.. He cannot help anyone change if they don't want to and trying to get him to change his will to fit anyones lifestyle is a delusion. I am living proof of the change God made in me.
@@valentinogal781 I am happy for the peace you have found in your life. I've never considered my sexuality to be fluid, I knew when I was 10 that I was attracted to the opposite sex. People have different life experiences though, so who am I to judge. But I'm curious, are you going against the way god made you in the 1st place, or did you have a psychological trauma that made you attracted to the same sex? I only ask because sexuality is determined by hormones, so if you were always straight but had a period in your life when you were not, what would be the cause of that. Please excuse me if I'm over stepping boundaries, I'm a non believer so I tend to analysis things on a deeper level than just one book.
tenofivelips I only know of a few women who were straight all their lives, but they changed their sexuality to gay. One was because she was sick of being treated like shit by males. The other was a married woman with kids, and again, sick of being treated as nothing and unloved. The other was seduced by her husbands sister.
@@tenofivelipstenofivelips ngl i think you're right lmao. I think people should just accept themselves and deal with it. If you're unhappy then change but I'm confused by the fact that Christians say "God made every person individually" and that he loves everyone regardless and he forgives you for all your sins if you ask. Like.... something doesn't add up here because Christians say all this but then as soon as something like this comes along that they really hate they say you "HAVE" to change because God "hates" you and I think it's just horrible. I don't think that it's God that disagrees with gay people I think its just people in general for some reason because they think it's "bad" when there's nothing actually wrong with it lmao.
I'm an agnostic humanist, but these people are my beautiful brothers and sisters and I was moved to tears by their stories. Thank you! PS - love your sense of humour
1:55 the “Matt” sign is a reference to the brutal murder of Matthew Sheppard in the town of Laramie, he was gay, and two boys abducted him and tortured him just for loving who he wanted to love. It’s sickening people would make signs like that out of a tragic scenario.
Fr its weird how instead of thinking "Damn i cant believe 2 boys are that evil to torture someone" all they get from it is "And thats why you cant be gay or else we have to torture you"
Nickispan -Mathew Shepard was murdered in 1998 in Laramie WY...his body was found right outside of Laramie he was left tied to a fence to die after being beaten horribly. Such a horrible situation. Check out the Mathew Sheppard Project....his parents started it after...there is also a book about him and what happened. Rip Mathew Sheppard
my dad has never been in my life, and my mom stopped talking to me after i came out. this video is healing, especially when grace talked to the conversion therapy survivor who talked about wanting his parents to love him. i couldnt help but cry a little. it also hit me hard when he said he used to pray for god to change his orientation, because as a person who grew up in a baptist boarding school environment, i did the same thing for most of my adolescence.
do people who protest at pride events think they're going to change anyone's mind? as if i'm going to be feeling my oats draped in my rainbow flag and see their sign saying that god hates me and suddenly go "well gosh darn, would you look at that, i guess i'll go home then"
Right, like they literally could be doing something beneficial for themselves or to the world instead of shouting at people who don't give two shits about them😂😂😂
@@ChristopherWaddelow That is a very complex question. Free speech is important, but so is being non discriminatory. If you are actively speaking out against the LGBTQ+ community or protesting at a parade, you are being discriminatory. Of course, everyone is allowed to have fun at pride. Pride discriminates against no one. If homophobic people show up, we ignore, educate or show our pride. I don't understand why people would want to protest pride thought. If the reason has something to do with God being against it, that's not true. I myself am Christian and part of the LGBTQ+ community in many ways. God made us exactly the way we are. He made us perfect. Love thy neighbour. I am happy to discuss this more with you.
I really appreciate people who can have their religion and not force it upon others. I am not a Christian but it is sad that many feel it is the only way to believe is to force others to believe.
It’s like people never learn from history, from crusades to imperialism. Christians have done so much wrong in the eyes of god in the past, these people are just lost and are following the religion in their own interpretation because it makes them feel less of a horrible person
The only one who can judge is God. If you judge you're just as bad as the person you're judging. Don't judge people. Simple. Let them live their lives, it's none of your business. Maybe the afterlife isn't that bad after all.
As a Christian, you have no right to presume you are God and have the authority to declare what is wrong and right. That’s not your responsibility or right. You are not God. Sorry.
I’m Christian. I don’t judge people for there sexual preferences. I don’t hate on anyone . I have a trans friend since I was 14 . I’m 52 cis female. Not all Christians are like these protesters . Our Methodist church is open for everyone. Our pastor says All Loved And Accpted Here! Its a no hate Christian community
I wish my church was accepting like that, personally I am a Christian but also a lesbian. So when the vicar at my church told me that being gay is a sin, I felt like crying right there in church. But I couldn’t because no one in my church knows I am a lesbian.
The methodist denomination is apostate. So thats no shocker there of how they operate. Follow God’s Word on what he says concerning Love and Sexuality. Not your feelings which are fallen
It´s selflove! Love seperated from truth is selflove. God´s word is clear on that. He is not only loving but a holy, holy and rightousness god. Rightous according to his law and truth. What god called evil man shall call it good? Never be it. Pls. repent and seek Jesus.
Catholic, Christian churches scared the crap out of me. Fixing gays sounds to me like as if someone wants me to change my DNA, my skin color, the shape of my eyes. It is nuts that there's so much intolerance.
So what I’m seeing, is Christians would rather a gay couple get divorced than be happy together. Even though they’re supposed to condemn divorce too. *sigh*
My daughter is in an experimental stage in her life. She's 13. I've asked her a few times if she feels she is gay, due to some of her interests and drawings. She said no, but that she is probably bisexual...however she feels she is definitely pansexual. I made sure she knew that no matter how she felt, what she decided she is....I will love her no matter what and support her in every aspect of her life. This is what is lacking with these judgemental parents. They are your children, you love them unconditionally.
im 14, and Asian. im sure we all know how Asians are, talking about western influence on gay people. anyway, i came out to my mum only recently, though it's been probably 3 years since i realised i wasn't like other girls, who went gaga over boys, who i did not find attractive, even in the least. i cried for nearly an hour before i got the words out of my mouth. i was struggling so much with myself, and i was afraid she'd be disappointed n me, because my father is extremely critical/judgemental/close-minded and mocks gay people, lgbtq people. he once said that a gay couple shouldn't even be considered a couple, which really stirred up some anger in me. as much as my mother was in denial, despite her constantly repeating the fact that i was young and impressionable, maybe confused, she would tell me that she would love me no matter what, who i became when i grew older, who i started a family with, because i was her daughter and she loved me. i told her my father was very against lgbtq people and that he threatened to disown me if i ever came out to him, but she kept trying to defend him, though honestly, knowing the person my father is, didn't really make sense. what matters is the reassurance she gave me, that she would never ever hate me because of who i am, and so many non-lgbtq people don't understand that all we need is some comfort, some love from our parents. we, as children, constantly seek approval from our parents and so, your comment is lovely! thank you for being so accepting :)
CotoureCAKES that’s not how it works, sis. She’s GAY. She still likes women she even said so herself. She’s suppressing her lesbianism and it’s sad. And fornication is not the same thing as being a lesbian. One of those things is a choice the other isn’t.
@@abenagyampo I used to have sex outside of marriage. Now since becoming born again God has transformed me by His Spirit. I have been made aware by the everlasting God that my sin ( all sin.) Seperates me from Him. But the thing about Gods Love and Being Born again is , You just have to experience it for yourself in order to understand Gods Transforming power in your Life. Blessings.❤
CotoureCAKES yes but you see, you still had sex. You sinned already. Even if you repented you STILL had sex out of wedlock. God is forgiving he loves all. Jackie is *gay* even though she has found god she is still *gaaay*. You can stop having sex but you can’t stop who you love. She even said it herself, she still find women attractive however she repressed those feeling.
Any parent who does that is not really a parent in my book. My "parents" are like that and cutting ties with them so I could find a real family (one that cares) was the best thing I ever did.
As a mother, I truly believe that anyone who disowns their child because they come out as gay or trans or whatever, they are not fit to be called a parent.
I just want to know how it's even an option? I couldn't think of one thing my child could do or be that would make me not love and support them. They could be felons and I'd be dragging my ass to a prison for visitations. Like WHAT?.🤷♀️ I MADE THAT HUMAN AND ITS MINE! FUCK YOUR OPINIONS and STOP ACTING LIKE YOU HAVE AN OPTION!
Andrea Lindley your child is not your property.... they will grow apart from you like branches on a tree- connected, but distanced. don’t push your kid away with this projection bullshit. like every other human being in the world, they will be different from you and will hold different opinions and beliefs. if you keep it up or invalidate their own respectable decisions in any way, your kid will move out at 18 and will never speak with you again.
I was a Christian until a pastor pulled me aside and told me I was going to hell for questioning my sexuality. (I’m bi) and he then told my dad to kick me out of the house. I was 17. He told me I was no better than murderers. He compared me loving people to killing people. I can’t believe that loving people is a reason to go to hell... I haven’t been to church since because in Texas where I live there is no lgbt friendly churches near me and I don’t want to be made to hate myself again. I don’t want to feel bad that I am myself. So I don’t identify as any religion but I do believe there is likely a higher power but I am just going to live my best life the way I see fit, not following an outdated book written by people.
Sorry that they did that to you. That pastor is definitely not a man of God since he is preaching hate. If a pastor did this, I won't be coming to his church.
I love near Dallas and Waco (idk where you are), but fortunately if you ever move to these areas there are churches who accept the lgbtq+ community with open arms. You are wonderful and I hope your life is wonderful and happy 💕
Jessie Ghost im in the Dallas area myself. It’s just the church I was with was horrible like that. But it’s ok I’m happy with who I am and the beliefs I have :)
I'm so truly sorry.Your pastor was not of christ,he was a hateful false prophet .."you shall know them by your fruits.A good tree cannot produce bad fruits," "For if I prophesy or cast out demons but have not love...I have nothing". Trust me you can be gay and Christian...they arent mutually exclusive. I'm really sorry you were hurt by that evil pastor
I think it’s so inspiring how Grace and Jackie, people who have pretty different view points, can have a civil and respectful conversation with each other. It proves that people with drastically different opinions can co-exist.
Bi Christian here, and i almost started sobbing at just hearing the dude pray, I would've loved to hear the whole sermon. I'm Southern Baptist, so the culture around LGBT isn't good where I am, but what I would give to go to that church even just once
It's 5am here and I felt a sob almost come out from the way the dude prayed. That was one of the most beautiful prayers I have ever had the chance to hear
It's so cool to find another bisexual Christian! My father is a pastor so I grew up in the church. After my parents split I really took my time to rethink Christianity and where I stand in the religion. And if I'm honest, I'm not a "Christian" I'm a God follower and I spread the positivity of the Lord. "Christianity" has been so twisted and corrupted by the people who protest at parades and spread negatively saying "God hates the Gays". In reality, God is a God of love, peace, order and everything good. Along side with me being a young woman in the faith, I don't judge others for their different religion (or lack thereof for some) Pride is about equality. God is for equality (from my understanding) I'm for equality ❤️❤️❤️
Calling people to be holy while saying "you're only holy if you are straight" is THE SAME THING as calling people to be straight. Otherwise why would she had forced herself into a traditional marriage? She has the same opinions as the people who put teenagers in conversion therapy, she's just more politically correct while expressing it, which leads to pretty sounding but contradictory statements like that one.
I was raised by a lesbian couple, and I turned out fine. I am lesbian and my wife and I will likely adopt if we ever have any kid(s), which is unlikely
I’m sorry you had to be raised in that environment. Maybe you turned out fine but maybe you just didn’t know any different. I hope they didn’t molest you. 🥺 I was raised in an abusive home and didn’t even realize it wasn’t normal and thought I turned out ‘fine’ until I started to realize what happened wasn’t ok. Hope the best for you and you find hope and healing.
Idk I think she’s just very confused about Christianity and how serious to take what the Bible says and what preachers say. Divorce has been considered a huge sin in Christianity so to think that divorcing someone... to fake being strait is a holy decision, is once again picking and choosing what to believe in. Bottom line is treat others the way you would wish to be treated, and mind your own business when it’s not your place to judge. If you’re religious you should know well that the only person allowed to pass judgment onto others is god. The only exception in judging others in my opinion is those who are arrested and under trial for crimes.
Yup. I think it's because her message has been taken into the hands of the more extreme side of Christianity and made into something different than what she's saying. I don't agree with her, but I don't think she's a Westboro Baptist type either lol
it's 'love thy neighbor' not 'love thy neighbor unless they are gay' God accepts and loves us all no matter our sexuality or how we identify as. have a good day 🏳️🌈❤
God loves us all... he offers that love in the form of forgiveness..... but He doesn't love everything we do. Sin cannot enter heaven.... and all human beings are sinful... the only way to have our sin 'removed' from us, is to be forgiven. And, we can't be forgiven if we don't ask for forgiveness. And the only way to ask for forgiveness, and receive it, is through acknowledgement of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. As he said, " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"
@Franka *66 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7 1-2, NIV
@Franka *66 you are imposing your interpretation of a document that has been translated through several languages on others, and assuming yours is the true interpretation.
“What other group has as much police protection around us?” “Uh..probably One Direction?” I know I’m supposed to take this video seriously but I couldn’t stop laughing
i used to have frequent dreams about being chased by killers, cops, witches, sirens...for as long as i can remember. but since i've realized and accepted who i am, i don't have any dreams like that anymore. this is also the least depressive/suicidal I've been in 6 years! :)
I appreciate "Jackie's" honesty. Even though she decided to NOT have sex with women she still fantasizes and have dreams about women. So she is "heterosexual" on the outside but a lesbian on the inside? She said it's something that she would probably struggle with until the day she dies which proves that it can not be "prayed" away or even "converted" away but it's a matter of how you "choose" to live. She is a lesbian that "chose" to live a heterosexual life.
Emily Schueller she’s clearly not. but she’s serving the lord which matters to her over what she truly wants. (i think she is torturing herself. i pity her. i wish she loved herself enough to be with someone she truly has feelings for)
Sammy 423 i agree. i struggled w internalized homophobia for years and i’m so glad it was never that bad for me. i’ve definitely forced myself to be w guys but not to that extent :/
Exactly. They just judge you and feel like their religion (out of thousands of recorded religions) is the right and true and logical way to live. And if you don't find their made up stories true then you'll burn in hell. I left the church and I'm not turning back. I can't stand the judgement and criticism
For me its the same case but i beleive in the existence of a supernatural being ......whether its budha, alla, conficious.........just like the simplisity of it. Christianity just makes me fell confined and limited to a subset of rules which if brocken leave a heavy guilty conscience. Btw i am from kenya where if you dare speak aginst religion or challenge it .....one is outrightly considered a devil worshipper or possesed with demons😢
I had a hard time dealing with that at age 12/13 when I was caught dating a girl. I've stopped attending church since. I was raised catholic and although I sometimes like my religion, I don't at other times bc I still don't like the people that still believe "god hates gays" and "being gay is sinful"....
Their hypocrites.if they worried about someone else household their are worst most likely.they pick and choose what they choose out of the bible.god don't like hypocrite ppl or using his name to hurt ppl
I’m so sorry that you’ve felt that way, i can’t promise that those people will cease to exist but what I can promise is that I will do better and continue to do my best to undo the harm or remove this tension. God bless
I hope that, that guy realizes that those officers are there to protect the people at pride, not those assholes that are only going against God but judging others
Conversion therapy survivor here... I was 15, too. I wasn't sent anywhere, it was "telehealth" - but it was extremely damaging. Kenneth Zucker was the "therapist's" name. People praise him as a saint of medicine, if he truly was, why did he prey on 15 year old me? Why did he ask these same extremely s&&ual questions to children as young as 8 and 9? How can he get away with this?
That seems like a low-key step before, oh I don't know, genocide...? It's just really frightening, to dehumanize a whole community just because of sexuality, gender, color, race.
i really really hope it won't be. look, i'm not qualified at all to tell you this, but maybe try to really empower them before then, and give them little mantras to remember just in case, like "i am valid, i am okay the way i am, i am proud to be me" or sth like that? and have them know that it's totally fine to put on a show and lie in order to survive. just some ideas to prepare just in case, let me know if they are bad, y'all. wishing you both all the best
I hope his parents are not deceiving him like that. He may never trust them again. A really bad experience at conversion therapy camp can require years of therapy to recover. Get as much information about the camp as you can. Ask him to write you a letter using the camps return address. Then you can find out. If it is really a weight loss camp you can relax a little. Either way let him know you will love and support him when he returns.
Has the camp gotten cancelled because of the pandemic??? I’ll be praying it does get cancelled and praying that your friend can find more people that accept them for who they are!❤️
My Christian friend found out I was atheist, so she encouraged me to replace Jesus, who I had disavowed, with Timothée Chalamet. She told me to worship Timothée Chalamet
I told my mom I was Bi, and it didn’t seem like a big deal- however every time we’re watching a movie an woman kiss or men kiss she goes “ew” and tries to say she isn’t prejudice, “she just doesn’t want it thrown in her face.”
thrown in her face is so funny because straightness is thrown in everyones face 24/7. But then again most ppl feel uncomfortable with public affection in general idk
I am a Christian lady and I just want to say... when I have children, my home will be a safe space for my children and anyone to talk to me about their sexual orientation without hate. I don't believe in judging people, and I wish I could hug everyone who has to deal with being treated horribly for being lgbtq+
As a bisexual agnostic girl I want to say thank you writing this comment. I wish I could like this comment a million times. It really hurts to see a lot of people do harm to people that are apart of the lgbt community. This comment made my night, thank you and you're awesome 🙏
@@leahgachaproductions it's hard to listen to Christians who actually care about you bc of the many many centuries of the unfair treatment they've gotten. DOnt give up on life man and if you feel you're ever on the edge call to God you don't have to I'm not forcing you but He never left me
oh my gosh same 😭 honestly i kinda want at least one of my kids to be LGBTQ+ i would give them hugs and kisses every day. no one deserves to be treated differently or even get abused for something they cant control 😭😭😭
I grew up in Assemblies of God...I was in such a dark place as a teen...but hid it best I could....my parents never forced me into conversion therapy....but I pursued it on my own behind their backs..it was a nightmare...a lot has happened since then and today...I love Jesus and I love myself...I have forgiven myself and my parents...and I am so fortunate to have an amazing and accepting family...I know I am exactly where God wants me to be and I am blessed every day...I hope to someday have my own ministry to help other GLBTQA Christians and make sure they know that people will disappoint you...but Jesus never fails. Your videos Grace give me such hope and are such a blessing to watch...thank you!
I’m a straight catholic girl, and I am disgusted in these people, disgusted. We do not claim the horrible homophobes, I feel sick to the stomach, please know that me and my friends support the lgbtq community very much, and we are sorry about the real sinners in this situation. If god was meant to forgive murder. If god cannot hate. Then loving the same gender Won’t be ‘forgiven’ but accepted Also, isn’t your priest gay if he’s married to god who is depicted as a man? I am only 11 but I will never stop showing lgbtq people the respect and understanding they deserve
I am now atheist, but was Christian in my youth. God is not depicted as a man, but made man in his image. People often confuse god creating man in his image with god creating men in his image. On another note, it is good to be disgusted with these people.
One thing I get from reading the comments is that many gay people bunch all straight people in with the bigots and ignorants. That in itself is very prejudiced and unfair.
okay but can we take a moment to appreciate how beautiful and understanding grace is?? like seriously I wish I had her patience and holy hell is she gorgeous!!
As a Christian I don't agree with what the protesters are doing. God is love and as a Christian I make sure that I show love towards everyone I met. Calling homosexuals awful names does not make them better. It's because of people like that that makes people second guess God.
@@Andy_Dagamer yes, it is wrong. But, you have to approach the situation in the right way. Allow the love you have and the holy spirit inside of you to change someone.
According to the bible there is a lot of crap that isn’t “right” but that doesn’t stop the christians from breaking the commandments! So..... being holier than thou isn’t working. You go to church every Sunday, ask for forgiveness for your sins of the last week, are forgiven then you leave church, there you go again, sinning until the next Sunday.....what the hell is that about!?
Thank You... I don't like christians protesting that way.. I am a christian, a ministers daughter and and ex-lesbian and by Ex meaning i not longer am attracted to women. Jesus Changed me.
@@briannacollie2742 Why is it wrong though? I don't see a problem with people gay at all. They're not hurting anyone. I believe that love is love and that if they want to get married and start a family with someone of the same sex there shouldn't be a problem. Ngl if you weren't Christian and the bible didn't say it was bad then nobody would think it was bad at all. I don't think God can change sexuality because that would be like trying to change your personality. Nobody is defined by their sexuality and nobody should be. Just accept who you are and as long as your happy that's all that matters. Christian's cause so much hate, anger and shame people for just being themselves considering the bible tells you to love everyone and forgive everyone.
@Lodin Norðurljósson Why do they have to change though? They aren't hurting you, they aren't hurting anyone in fact. Just because Christians think it's bad to be gay doesn't mean it's actually bad. Just live your life and they'll live theirs, accept them and be nice and there shouldn't be a problem. You telling them that they "have" to change doesn't mean all gay people will go "Oh shit yeah your right I should totally just turn straight" like no that's not how it works. they were born gay and that's ok. You don't see gay people telling straight people that they should change and be gay because it's what they think is best.
LOVE HAS NO GENDER! Love whoever you want love, God made everyone in his imagines and likeness, I am Christian and I accept the LGBTQIA Community! Edit: I have figured out who I am, I am bisexual and bigender and I use pronouns he/him/they
@@s-truth But you're wrong God loves everyone. Guess what, what you say doesn't matter because I'm not gonna listen to a homophobic person. I'm Christian, bisexual and God loves me regardless who I am. So you go do what you homophobes which is apparently putting your opinion where's not relevant.
@@Dannaboy23 And you have proof that I am wrong or is that just a throwaway line to avoid facing the truth? From my experience I would say it is probably the second as I have noticed homosexuals hate the truth. Either that or they can't handle it. By the way, what is a homophobe?
@@s-truth Omg if you don't know what a homophobic person like you is, you could've done a 3-step google search but I'll spare that 3-step process (which is not hard to do if you don't know what a word means) A homophobic like yourself hates gay people or if you want the google definition-having or showing a dislike of or prejudiced against gay people. And 1 more thing before I stop replying to you, you are the reason that Christianity is looked upon as a religion being forced upon others. You are a part of that problem if you are going to comment on other people's comments about our religion. Oh wait I'm sorry I'm supposed to say "but we don't hate the sinner we hate the sin" you and many other people are the reason many people are leaving the church
Hey I am so happy for you that you are gay, but you can not be christian, you just can't rewrite the bible. What you have done is essentially create a new, hybrid religion with a new god. I also see nothing wrong with that. I wish you the best life.
It's hard to be mad at people like Jackie Hill Perry. Honestly, I just feel sad. Thinking that God wouldn't want you to love who you are meant to love really can ruin a person.
@@Breerox108 but again, at what point on this video is there any suggestion that JHP is not free to love anyone? Did she say that? What would cause you to infer that?
Kevin Lockett the fact that she says that being in a gay marriage is something that requires divorce. The fact that she is forcing herself into a heterosexual relationship when she knows she’s not attracted to men. (She May be bi, in that case, there’s no reason for this to be a testimony as nothing changed and she only went with what she thought fit what she thought God’s narrative was)
I don’t identify myself as lgbt (but I’m not entirely opposed to the idea of being in a relationship with a woman either, so maybe I could be bisexual in the future). The point that I wanted to express though is, that despite meeting with my Christian community every week, I still struggle with the idea of labeling myself a Christian because of many extreme one sided views on different matters (including sexual orientation and attraction). These are very deep thought provoking episodes and I wanted to express my gratitude and love towards Grace and everyone who made this.
I was a queer Christian for a time (I am no longer a Christian but not because I am queer, just because I found that Christianity is just my religion). I live in Germany though, where most Christians are rather progressive in comparison to what I see in the US. Me being queer was not an issue and I know there are many communities that don't have an issue either. In my youth group was a lesbian who is still a devout Christian now, organizing events for younger ones while openly queer. I hope you find a group that accepts you as you are.
Finding a gay community with people who also identify as Christian is really hard. I am so thankful that there’s someone opening the discussion about safe spaces for Christian & LGBTQ persons. Thank you.
I don't agree with Jackie at all, but I can't help but notice beautiful of a person she is and how she approaches everything with a sort of love and understanding.
I don't mean to make an assessment of someone's sexuality, but I am wondering if perhaps she is bisexual. Obviously, that could make it much easier to adjust to heteronormative lifestyle. She seems like a good person, though. I didn't get a hateful vibe from her at all.
I absolutely agree. I don’t agree with her but she seems like such a relatable person. I hope she finds happiness because she’s in denial about herself.
Dominic Gunderson in the closet? I’m sorry but telling the world you dream about your ex gf (while being a girl) I’m pretty sure your not in the closet 💀
Has Jackie considered maybe she’s bisexual and that’s why she can have a happy and loving relationship with a man while still finding women attractive??? Orrrr
A lot of lesbians have sex with men and can enjoy it and Jackie obviously cares for her husband but it seems to me that she does not live her truth. Of course sexuality can be on a spectrum but in the way she expressed herself I think she craves the touch and energy of women, something which her husband will never be able to give her.
She's a real Christian - she knows that serving the lord is first and foremost, and that her own desires do not matter. All real Christians know this. Christianity is not about the self. It's about putting off the parts of yourself which love sin, taking up your cross, and following God. We all have to do it. If someone is looking for a faith that pats you on the back, says you're perfect just the way you are, and to do exactly as you will.... the last place they should look is Christianity. As C.S. Lewis said "There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it."
Syd Lane And yet these are the same people who get divorced and stay rich instead of giving their money to the less fortunate. Spare me. If God exists, they have bigger things to care about than who people sleep with
I felt refreshed after listening to your vid. I am terminal not with cancer. I have a very rare neurological disorder so having fun in this life has escaped me.
I really appreciated hearing Jackie's perspective. I'd never considered her position before or knew that people like her existed. She surprised me. I genuinely feel like she has love for LGBTQ people, just by the way she spoke to you and about her experiences.
It’s a shame that she can’t love or accept herself. And that her anti-gay advocacy is actually causing a lot of harm to fellow LGBT+ people. The whole situation is so sad.
@@alexbennet4195 with all due respect she does love herself. I also am a Christian who is attracted to women and she’s explaining that just because you have desires for something that is wrong doesn’t mean you need to do it. We are all called to take up our cross and follow Christ. So for some it may be lying, stealing, attraction to children for the gay person it is being attracted to the same sex. Because we are sinful in nature we are going to desire things that aren’t good for us. I believe it’s okay that you are attracted to the same sex because G-d loves us all but he asks us all to surrender ourselves to Him. Even if you believe you were born that way He says that we need to be born again(John 3:3). Romans 1:25-32 explains why we sin and why we are attracted to things that G-d say is evil it’s because we love the sin more than Him. That doesn’t mean once we surrender to him we might not fall or stumble but if we walk with Him he will guide us. It also doesn’t mean we will be healed from our desires but that He will give us and teach us self control to not act upon it.
@@itsyaaveragegirl Oh sweetheart, you’re going to live a very sad and empty life, and die unfulfilled - all for what? An idea of a god that doesn’t accept the way you naturally are, and your personal wishes and desires that don’t harm, but instead enrich others - for what reason is this god so unaccepting? There literally isn’t even one - isn’t worth it. I struggle to understand this cult-like mentality of ultimate subservience to authority, not thinking for yourself, and making decisions based on, like, actual reason, and desire to make the world a better place where we want and allow others to experience happiness during their lives - but because you were told to, and free thought is bad. Yet, when this mentality exists, why are we so surprised by all the atrocities humankind has committed? I hope you are able to break away from this. Until then I pity you.
@@alexbennet4195 I am fulfilled and very happy. G-d accepts us all and loves us all but we are all called to surrender to the Most High who created us. He gives me a choice to serve Him. Just because I don’t live by my desires doesn’t mean I’m unhappy. I do think for myself, the Bible has more historical data than any other book including works from Plato and Socrates. It has withstand thousands of years written not by one author but 40 authors with cultural differences some were kings, fishermen, exiled princes, military leaders, philosophers, tax collectors, historians and even a Pharisee. And it all pointed to a sovereign G-d. The Bible is the only book that was written and assembled over a vast number of generations and still intact no other historical book can say that. The Bible is used when geologist go on digs and are looking for artifacts of the old world. The world tells us we come from fish but cannot find the missing link, the they say we evolved from non complex organisms but yet cannot tell us how. They say we evolved from apes but yet apes are still around. True Christianity is accepting of everyone and asks everyone including the gay, the sexual immoral, the liar, and the murderer to surrender. True Christianity is the only religion that tells us that it’s grace that saves us not works. So the reason why I am able not to act upon my desires is because His grace and His power not my own. It’s okay that you don’t agree with me and I’m not forcing you to but you cannot tell me that I am will be unfulfilled because I don’t live according to what you believe. Yes a lot of bad things has been done by the church but less 7% of wars fought was because of Christianity more people died at the hands of non Christians than true Christians. And let’s be clear not every person who claims to be Christian are. All those Christians who use conversion therapy are not true Christians. But I can understand your issues with the Church because I had them too. But once I started to not look at G-d through the horizontal relationships I had with people but instead the vertical relationship I had with Him I was able to understand that even Christian are sinners and will use His name to push their own agenda but the doesn’t mean He doesn’t exist or haven’t blessed me.
@@alexbennet4195 no need to pity me because I know I’ve made the right choice and I am happy. No one told me to follow Him instead He drew me to Himself. No one brainwashed me, I just started asking questions and every single one was answered through His word
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I was taught growing up that being gay was a choice and that I shouldn't ever talk about it because it was a dirty topic. I remember being 7 years old and playing wedding with my best friend while my other friend videoed the "ceremony" with an old flip phone. When my mom found us, we were told to delete it and given a lecture about acting appropriately. I'll never forget the way my mother looked at me with disgust, or the fear in my best friends eyes when my mom mentioned her parents finding out. I'm still a lesbian and I'm still afraid, but I will never let hate stop me from embracing the love I feel.
@@roselichtman3810 It saddens me a lot of people in our community goes through such things. Wish everyone knows they're beautiful and should be proud no matter who or how they love.
Sending love and good wishes :))
I love your content refinery29! This is as real as it gets and Grace and her team thank you for making this journey. God’s love calls all to him ♥️ love is love through and through ♥️
Aunty Agony yeah it’s true but don’t u think they have a right to voice their opinion anyone can do it no mater race sex sexuality and beliefs no one would like if someone took ur rights of voice u probably can’t change what they say but u can change if u decided to follow what someone saids.
“So once when i was 7 at my church was with this other church and we had a really homophobic teacher. She kept on yelling about how GOD IS RIGHT DONT BE GAY and how gay sex is bad like wtf we didn't know about that and didn't want to know. o idk she shouldnt have been talking about that to 7-year-olds (I'm still a Christian) So then she kept on yelling about how I DONT CARE IF THEYRE IN LOVE. I wanted to yell at her so much, she was really mean and innapropriate
Germany banned conversion therapy this year.
Illien Galene that’s wonderful
👏👏👏
Go germany!!
Good for Germany!!
i’m moving to germany one sec-
Someone in my highschool art class went through conversion therapy. She said they would withhold food from her, deny water for days at a time, and burn her with lighters. Definitely torture.
Roblox Gymnastics What the fucking fuck!? Isn’t that illegal!?!
@@karaokekid9025 it should be but, sadly it's not is a shocking amount of places.
It's really horrifying to see how far people can go just to be 'normal' or to make others 'normal'
That's really horrible *and* it's also a crime (child abuse I believe)
I don't see any conversion therapy, just cruelty.
@@karaokekid9025 still legal in several states in the usa as of 2020. its upsetting that things like this are legal just because of people's religious beliefs
Can we just point out how patient Grace is? Takes dedication to not want to slap some people for what they say
lol i have to reply.. #firstreply
takes so much, imagine being told to divorce someone you love and then instead of anger, taking humour to it and be able to respond ‘thats a lot of paperwork jackie’. cant relate i’m afraid x
So they can nou have fight to choose Which people come in their comminty bushit this makes me so mad why can evrybody be gay bot no one can be against it is what you fucking self believe
Iam sweden so my english is bad iam sorry
@@dhnmiizgkeisd4073 they can be, but having an opinion is like having a penis, it is ok to be proud of it, it is ok to have it, but it is not ok to force it on someone or take it out in inappropriate situations.
I love that Grace can still find the humor in this very dark situation. Someone is insinuating that she has to get divorces because her love isn't holy, and her response is "That's a lot of paperwork." I aspire to be that calm and level-headed
Imagine hating someone so much, that you devote your life to trying to ruin theirs. Sad way to live.
@@ChristopherWaddelow What the hell is the good reward of everyone being not gay then wtf
Stu Stu I don’t think you understand how sexuality works
@@ChristopherWaddelow I'm still missing the reason
Stu Stu Anyways we understand what your saying but it’s not your place to control someone’s life and choices let alone try and brainwash them and change who they are or want to be let people live
The ignorance literally brings tears to my eyes
I love the phrase ‘people believe that God loves them but don’t feel much love from people who believe in God’. Powerful and true. The church is not God, neither are the people in it. 🌈
Exactly, love with exception.
Church isn't a home for saints, it's a hospital for sinners
Wow, I really like that 'the church is not God, neither are the people in it."
Jo March, you are so right
Jo March so read the Bible so you know God’s stance on homosexuality?!
i love how people are just using the protesters as background props to take awesome kissing photos in front of lmaoo
I think that's all protesters are for now. Awesome ironic kissing pictures for the lgbt I know I have one with my ex 😂
there’s a picture of me from when i was like 12 with a pride flag around my shoulders with two peace signs up while a bunch of people protest behind me
@@f1zz-k1d89 iconic
I love your comment. It actually made me laugh out loud!!!
I’m gonna do this someday
I was placed into conversion therapy in Catholic middle school with several other gay students. It was awful. We have religious trauma because of it, some of us now being atheist. I was kicked out of church and ridiculed for being lesbian. We were told such horrible things - We were going to hell. It’s a choice. That we were mentally ill.
It’s a horrible experience.
I hope you have recovered from the trauma. Nobody should go through this. It's a crime against humankind, plain and simple.
@@Nonalhomophobie thank you. Unfortunately, it was a few years ago and I still can’t step one foot inside a church. I hope things like this can be taken into consideration when dealing with lgbtq religious youth.
After an experience like that I dont blame them for becoming athiest. How could men and women of god treat another person that is part of their own religion like that?
I know there are religious people that are tolerant but after a trauma like that I imagine it would be very hard to even trust them
im so sorry that you all had to go through this. Sending love to all of you.
I'm so sorry that happened to you! Know that you are perfect the way you are.
I'm a heterosexual but there is something I want to share with everybody: The most difficult thing in life is to find the love of your life! Never be ashamed who that person is. It is simply not important what other poeple think or say! They don't live your life, - and they don't make you happy anyway. Life is too short to think about what others think about you.
Thank you so much. You made my day! ❤
AMEN. 😤
@@ashleyredsheep YES
Excuse me, you dropped this 👑
Unless they are under 18 or a animal!
(I know at least a few of *those* people will use your comment to apply to them, they don't apply, that dosnt apply to them, that's abuse)
"Tough love"
No. No it's not. It's hate.
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@@erm12302 people can be rude at times, but that doesn't cancel out some people literally killing others because they don't want to change
@@erm12302 it could for some, but overall it's not really going to work out like that if a lot of Christians still refuse to accept LGBTQIA+ people because 'it's against their religion' or other things.
@@erm12302 your actions are appreciated, and if you don't mind me asking, how do you yourself not accept or disagree with the LGBTQIA+ community? all it is is that's who that person loves, that's how that person identifies, that sort of thing. I mean no disrespect, but the idea not agreeing with that just kind of baffles me, honestly.
@@erm12302 I once again mean no disrespect, but disagreeing with 'what the community does' because it's against your religion is in its simplest form, not letting people be their true selves because someone a long time ago decided to make a bunch of rules and laws.
I’m straight and watching this has made me realize my privilege when it comes to dating. I’m allowed to love out loud, practice public displays of affection with no scrutiny and just be myself. It’s sad that others are deprived of that. That they don’t get to be who they are freely.
I'm straight, and I like kissing my wife in public whenever I feel like it. I don't want to deny that experience to anybody, that feeling of "yeah, if you're looking at us, we're in love, now deal with it".
Thank you for recognizing that. I’ve dated women who wouldn’t hold my hand in public because it offended other people and she was terrified someone would say something.
Wholesome
Thank you for realizing your privilege. The way you put it was really good. You will never really know what it's like, but it's people like you who can make a bridge, who can try to understand, who are the best allies in the world.
@Diddo That thought in itself is full of hate, bitterness , resentment and is very prejudiced. If there's no Freedom in America, then go where there is. There was no freedom where I was born so I and my family came to the U.S.
There’s a difference of “tough love” coming from a mob of strangers saying you’re sinful for simply existing and being happy. How do they not understand the amount of disrespect they are doing? It’s not their business in this world to do that to anyone. Omg.
Makes me wonder if these are closeted people that want to come out..
Exactly. Tough love only works after you’ve built a strong connection w the person you’re trying to show tough love to, because due to the connection you have with them they know you mean well. A bunch of strangers calling people pedophiles and telling them that they’re going to burn in hell for eternity is not tough love nor is it love at all, it’s self righteousness and hate.
That's not tough love. Pure and simple. I'd usually write a paragraph about it, but I don't need to explain myself here. It's abuse. People should stop basically calling abuse "love."
1 Corinthians 13:6
@@omegawicked1 yeah i not following rules written in a book
“Do you see anyone who has more police protection than US”
“Well, probably One Direction”
aksjfkfkkflskdlfj that was amazing ❤️
I would’ve said the kkk personally.
I love that statement
For the sign at 1:52 “lesbians can’t raise kids” I would have walked over there and said turns out straight people can’t either cause there’s so many in the foster care system and walked away.
My friend has two gay moms.....
Gay parents are better and safer for children than social services.
Nicø God damn. I’m about to go to the hospital cuz of that 3rd degree burn
You say that as if most people put their kids in foster care because they don't care..... that's gross
My mums a single parent lesbian with a girlfriend, there happy, I’m happy, my sisters happy, what’s wrong with that? They really are so very sad
"What other group has this much protection around us?"
"Probably one direction."
LFLSMF BYE
+monyfony LOL!
What does LFLSMF mean 😂
putting "matt in hell" on a sign is the most shitty thing you could possibly do, a young man was brutally murdered and instead of respecting a fellow human beings life, you defile his name and ridicule him for something as trivial as his sexuality.
In a way, it's sort of like the whole reply thingy with "omg a certain youtuber dad is in hell now" like it's a good thing, even though it's not. Such immature people I swear.
@@ExtremeWreck To this day those people are still trolling about that, as well as the death of Technoblade. Disgusting.
Sexuality is trivial?
@@KristinA-xv4yk yes. To people not involved in your sexuality, your sexuality is trivial. Or at least it should be. Why do you need to worry about who I’m having sex with? It’s a trivial piece of information about my life that has no bearing on your life.
I agree with what you say, mostly. though I think a person’s sexuality isn’t necessarily “trivial” but it IS personal, and no one should defile anyone for whatever they hold personal. That’s their business.
Judging anything about another people as trivial is just disrespectful.
on behalf of all straights we don’t claim the crusty homophobes
Thank you someone had to say it
ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ only the Crispy and juicy ones.
Yep
_Pistachiomustachio_ sorry, you’re mistaken. They’re the same. Otherwise, elaborate what ‘beliefs’.
Eli Capers right okay, using your logic then homophobia still exists. It’s the evil, it’s the darkness, and it’s wrong, because people can’t learn to accept.
"That's a lot of paperwork, *JACKIE* "
Yes
I laughed so hard 😂
Yeahhh LmAOO I love her much, she's so fun and hilarious, also seems to be respectful.
"Did I do that right?"
"I'm doubting everything. My faith, my ability to drive a car,- Am I even gay??"
"Yeah, still am. That part hasn't changed."
HHAHAHAHA her wife should be proud.
666th like. You're welcome
She should’ve sAid “damn Jackie that’s a lot of paperwork” (T7S reference)
People who go to funerals with signs and megaphone like that deserve hell themselves. Interrupting people's time of grief with speeches about how their loved one is going to hell is appalling.
Yes your very correct
If someone comes to my friend's/families funerals, I would actually kill someone.
@@tired.vbplayer8973 or.. OR GENTLY *nudge* them with your car. We would blair death metal in the opposite direction as a paremeter barrier (only people 8ft away can hear the ceremony). Plus, puts babies right to sleep. If you have to babysit an fussy infant, try metal--seriously.
Im here to tell you just how dangerous this is.
My friend was a mormon. At 14 he was sent to a conversion center to help him "work on" his issue. They did horrible, vile things to him in the name of god and what was "right"
His family would send him back there several times until the age of 18 when they kicked him out. This is when i first met him. We were close friends very quick. He was so damaged mentally and physically that he used lots of drugs to numb himself. Looking back I would have done things so differently and intervened, tried harder, anything. Just to save his life. 3 months after his 20th birthday he overdosed on heroin and god knows what else. His birthday he seemed so alive for a change and his outlook was brighter. We joked about being able to legally drink in a year. Being that we drank all the time it was quite funny. I talked to him that Friday and he was dead on Sunday. So many things I wish i could've and should've said. Im 38 and I still miss him all these years later
This is heart-breaking. The monsters who call themselves his parents should be held responsible for his suicide.
@@Nonalhomophobie
Yes. My heart is still broken. He deserved better
that's sad. how old were you when you met him?
@@xybersurfer
17/18
@@src3360 ah. that was a long time ago, but it makes sense. i wouldn't be able to forget it either
Why do people honestly care about others sexuality, how does someone else being gay effect you?
Sometimes I wonder if it's something they're struggling with too, because why else would you obsess over someone else's situation?
Stu Stu It was just a neutral question.
@@ChristopherWaddelow because many others who care about my and my communities sexuality often have an intent to harm those who are not heterosexual. i care because i have empathy and don't want harm towards my community. there is a clear difference between hatred and support
@@ChristopherWaddelow Because literally the Bible says that God loves everyone no matter what they are and the reason why this can't be accomplished in this situation is because some people just can't at least accept that we exist? Im faithful to God, very very faithful, but fuck the church, the church doesn't decide what's right and wrong, it's God.
@@ChristopherWaddelow Because more often than not, the people OP is talking about hurt LGBT+ folks in some way or another. Them caring about it actually oppresses someone.
Piss off with your false equivalencies.
HOLD ON WHY IS NO ONE TALKING AB THIS
“What other group had this much police protection?”
“Uhhh probably one direction”
XHAHHSSHHAH I DIED
I was also looking through comments and questioning why it wasn't there 😂
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
she ain't wrong tho
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😂😂😂
I think that any Christian that has a deep respect for their beliefs and that actually knows the Bible is too occupied with serving and loving others to be harassing other people at gay parades. That's just pointless. It makes me sick to my stomach.
utopianeverness thank you! So many people think we hate gays but it’s just the others that are putting a bad name on us
@@adaeze4873 If you're trying to help people then you first need to encourage them to believe and want to follow God. You will not draw them in by opening with "this is a sin that come with this consequence", you will only push them away and make them feel like enemies of the whole religion.
Also, many other practices that were considered sinful are commonplace now such as divorce, but people have refrained from criticizing it because it is recognised that it is harmful to the persons state of mind and self esteem to be critical of it. Since we all know of someone who has gone through this, we can more easily relate to it, and not want people we feel akin to be harmed by such actions. So why then is it alright to harm the LGBT communities state of mind by criticizing something we feel we cannot change and is good for us even if you personally do believe it's a sin? Is there a double standard regarding some sin?
Finally, while you and others may believe it is a sin to be gay, there are sects and Biblical interpretations that do not believe it is like this one: wouldjesusdiscriminate.org . Since we cannot prove beyond a doubt that your belief is any more correct than mine, we are at an impasse where we have to accept God as the only one who can judge and we can pray for mercy and guidance for each other. I would not try to force you to believe as I do and I appreciate it when others treat me with the same kindness. Peace be with you.
utopianeverness
No they don’t.
Yes! Thank you!
@@aubreywilliam9048 actually we do except the only people that you see are the radical pro life anti gay people rather than the real Christians that love all people.
As a straight Christian, here's to all LGBTQ+ Christians: you're loved. you're beautiful. you're strong. you matter. I'm so sorry for all the hate you receive, it's not fair at all. Please be kind to yourself.
Read your Bible, more so Romans 1:18-32.
You cant be a christian and gay!! Period. LGBT need to turn away from their ungodly lifestyle
@@jilzcrocks3470 says the person who's lifestyle choices consist of being complicit to eons of clergy abuse within the church walls
Worry about your own broken soul
@@jilzcrocks3470 go read 1 Timothy 2:11 and then sit down and be humble
@@katiemorgan5900
You can't rationalize with those who cheerfully condone eons of abuse in the name of god
“love your neighbor unless they’re gay then yell at them with megaphones”
zephyr owo noice
Praise God! Amen! God is great the devil is greater 🙏🙏🙏
Izzat sarcasm?
Homophobes in a sentence
Why would you yell at a neighbour who is happy?
Hi, I’m a straight Christian. I was crying watching this. I’m so sorry stuff like this happens. We’re not all crazy. So much love to all, and I sincerely hope and pray life gets better.
Lauren Lanterns thank u i means a lot when the man said how he wanted that love From his parents and I started to cry
same
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Avarie Mendenall did you have a stroke?
@@kertchu yes.
Lol. “That’s a lot of paper work Jackie!” This is why Grace does so good in these talks. She mixes humor with the heavy and I appreciate that so much.
I lol'd at that. 😂
Ditto
Agreed. That was a great comeback!
That line killed me!!! Grace is a national treasure.
9:50 "That's a lot of paperwork Jackie. I don't know what kind of time you think i have" i love how she's just cracking jokes even when Jackie is imply that her marriage is wrong
"What other group has this much police protection?"
"Probably One Direction." LOL
i haven't heard that name in five years i-
The way I see it the lgbt people had the police protection
@@elicapers2446 ??
@@whogavejohnthecamera yeah, what the don't realize is that police are not protecting THEM, they are protecting everyone else in the parade FROM them
Wanna feel like One Direction?
Sure, go to a pride event
"AM I EVEN GAY??!"
"Yes, I am. I'm very gay."
Mood.
That's the biggest mood I ever heard tbh
I’m the first one
Yep I am pangenderqeer fluid trans and I am happy to be just that😄😄😄😄
@@vexinbrown4911 i had to shut down my brain to not lose braincells
I'm so confused by people who think sexuality can be changed.
Because i am living prove of that.. Listen i don't like the way more christians approach this situation. i was never given christian therapy and that says a lot coming from a being a ministers daughter. My parents although knew Gods stance on it they showed me love. My dad even went as far as going with me to West Hollywood and condemn all those crazy christians that had signs that read God Hates gays. he stood across the street and instead preached about Gods love and would not side with the radical christians. he prayed for many and the impact of love my pop recieved was awesome.
But i knew it was a sin.. I did not pray away the gay.. I simply said "Jesus i choose you and will do whatever it takes to have a true relationship with you. I need you to help me change because i cannot change myself".. He not only changed my sexuality but so many other things i had carrying with me. He wants us to willing ask and have the desire to choose him over our sin, no matter what that sin is. He changes..It's called a miracle. but if a person wants their sin and God.. He cannot help anyone change if they don't want to and trying to get him to change his will to fit anyones lifestyle is a delusion.
I am living proof of the change God made in me.
@@valentinogal781 I am happy for the peace you have found in your life. I've never considered my sexuality to be fluid, I knew when I was 10 that I was attracted to the opposite sex. People have different life experiences though, so who am I to judge. But I'm curious, are you going against the way god made you in the 1st place, or did you have a psychological trauma that made you attracted to the same sex? I only ask because sexuality is determined by hormones, so if you were always straight but had a period in your life when you were not, what would be the cause of that. Please excuse me if I'm over stepping boundaries, I'm a non believer so I tend to analysis things on a deeper level than just one book.
tenofivelips I only know of a few women who were straight all their lives, but they changed their sexuality to gay. One was because she was sick of being treated like shit by males. The other was a married woman with kids, and again, sick of being treated as nothing and unloved. The other was seduced by her husbands sister.
@@tenofivelipstenofivelips ngl i think you're right lmao. I think people should just accept themselves and deal with it. If you're unhappy then change but I'm confused by the fact that Christians say "God made every person individually" and that he loves everyone regardless and he forgives you for all your sins if you ask. Like.... something doesn't add up here because Christians say all this but then as soon as something like this comes along that they really hate they say you "HAVE" to change because God "hates" you and I think it's just horrible. I don't think that it's God that disagrees with gay people I think its just people in general for some reason because they think it's "bad" when there's nothing actually wrong with it lmao.
@@ellalynmills03 Exactly. I think the "something doesn't add up" is that people use "god" to suit their own needs.
I'm an agnostic humanist, but these people are my beautiful brothers and sisters and I was moved to tears by their stories. Thank you!
PS - love your sense of humour
“SHE WASNT READY FOR THE SPIRIT”
So freaking cute! He's being himself and being a Christian as well cause he feels happy that way, that's so cool!
Wow i cannot get over how civil Jackie and Grace's conversations were. It was refreshing!
She's bisexual
Yes
1:55 the “Matt” sign is a reference to the brutal murder of Matthew Sheppard in the town of Laramie, he was gay, and two boys abducted him and tortured him just for loving who he wanted to love. It’s sickening people would make signs like that out of a tragic scenario.
Fr its weird how instead of thinking "Damn i cant believe 2 boys are that evil to torture someone" all they get from it is "And thats why you cant be gay or else we have to torture you"
I can't believe people who say they care would condone and glorify a poor boys slaughter. I shouldnt.
Laramie? Laramie, Wyoming?.. crap. How long ago was that?
Ik! I was in absolute shock when I saw it. People are so freaking disgusting
Nickispan -Mathew Shepard was murdered in 1998 in Laramie WY...his body was found right outside of Laramie he was left tied to a fence to die after being beaten horribly. Such a horrible situation. Check out the Mathew Sheppard Project....his parents started it after...there is also a book about him and what happened. Rip Mathew Sheppard
my dad has never been in my life, and my mom stopped talking to me after i came out. this video is healing, especially when grace talked to the conversion therapy survivor who talked about wanting his parents to love him. i couldnt help but cry a little. it also hit me hard when he said he used to pray for god to change his orientation, because as a person who grew up in a baptist boarding school environment, i did the same thing for most of my adolescence.
I’m so sorry for that I hope you find peace
do people who protest at pride events think they're going to change anyone's mind? as if i'm going to be feeling my oats draped in my rainbow flag and see their sign saying that god hates me and suddenly go "well gosh darn, would you look at that, i guess i'll go home then"
Right????? It confuses me big time
Right, like they literally could be doing something beneficial for themselves or to the world instead of shouting at people who don't give two shits about them😂😂😂
@@ChristopherWaddelow pride doesn't turn people gay, if that's what you're implying......
@@ChristopherWaddelow So we have a place to meet as a group and celebrate how beautiful we all are.
@@ChristopherWaddelow That is a very complex question. Free speech is important, but so is being non discriminatory. If you are actively speaking out against the LGBTQ+ community or protesting at a parade, you are being discriminatory. Of course, everyone is allowed to have fun at pride. Pride discriminates against no one. If homophobic people show up, we ignore, educate or show our pride. I don't understand why people would want to protest pride thought. If the reason has something to do with God being against it, that's not true. I myself am Christian and part of the LGBTQ+ community in many ways. God made us exactly the way we are. He made us perfect. Love thy neighbour. I am happy to discuss this more with you.
As a Christian this is not how you spread the word of god you don’t do it by yelling and trying to force you’re opinion
I really appreciate people who can have their religion and not force it upon others. I am not a Christian but it is sad that many feel it is the only way to believe is to force others to believe.
It’s like people never learn from history, from crusades to imperialism. Christians have done so much wrong in the eyes of god in the past, these people are just lost and are following the religion in their own interpretation because it makes them feel less of a horrible person
The only one who can judge is God. If you judge you're just as bad as the person you're judging. Don't judge people. Simple. Let them live their lives, it's none of your business. Maybe the afterlife isn't that bad after all.
As a Christian, you have no right to presume you are God and have the authority to declare what is wrong and right. That’s not your responsibility or right. You are not God. Sorry.
Pandita they never said they were god um- chile anyway....
"I'm doubting everything! My faith, my ability to drive a car! AM I EVEN GAY??! Yes, I am. I'm very gay."
I’m Christian. I don’t judge people for there sexual preferences.
I don’t hate on anyone . I have a trans friend since I was 14 . I’m 52 cis female. Not all Christians are like these protesters . Our Methodist church is open for everyone. Our pastor says All Loved And Accpted Here! Its a no hate Christian community
I wish my church was accepting like that, personally I am a Christian but also a lesbian. So when the vicar at my church told me that being gay is a sin, I felt like crying right there in church. But I couldn’t because no one in my church knows I am a lesbian.
How depressing is it that you have to clarify that it is a "no hate" Christian community? We can do better.
Read your Bible, more so Romans 1:18-32.
The methodist denomination is apostate. So thats no shocker there of how they operate.
Follow God’s Word on what he says concerning Love and Sexuality. Not your feelings which are fallen
It´s selflove! Love seperated from truth is selflove. God´s word is clear on that. He is not only loving but a holy, holy and rightousness god. Rightous according to his law and truth. What god called evil man shall call it good? Never be it. Pls. repent and seek Jesus.
"probably One Direction." ASFNKSNDFJKASNDJFN nice.
hama I SCREAAMEEEDDDD
I spit out my drink and then laughed so hard.
I wheezed
i smell the gay in your keyboard smash lmaooooOOAOOOAOAoOAoOA
My old fandom
Sometimes there's more Jesus at the bar then there is at church. Real talk.
Catholic, Christian churches scared the crap out of me. Fixing gays sounds to me like as if someone wants me to change my DNA, my skin color, the shape of my eyes. It is nuts that there's so much intolerance.
Best comment EVER! Seriously, grinning ear to ear reading this!
“Going to the club doesn’t make you a bad person and going to church doesn’t make you a good person” the only time I’ll say amen
AMEN!
My dad always says he feels more with god when he's in the woods then he ever felt at church.
So what I’m seeing, is Christians would rather a gay couple get divorced than be happy together.
Even though they’re supposed to condemn divorce too.
*sigh*
@Beth and your point is?
@@mvgicshop probably something they were spamming
Because marrige between men and men / women and women is not a marriage ordained by God. That's something that carnal man came up with.
God did not create Adam and Steve and say this is good. Lol
@@dopamine1132 yup. He made adam and lillith. But she wasn't carnal enough for adam.
"probably One Direction"
BEST COMEBACK
nobody:
not a single soul:
grace: _“that’s a lot of paperwork, _*_JACKIE”_*
My daughter is in an experimental stage in her life. She's 13. I've asked her a few times if she feels she is gay, due to some of her interests and drawings. She said no, but that she is probably bisexual...however she feels she is definitely pansexual. I made sure she knew that no matter how she felt, what she decided she is....I will love her no matter what and support her in every aspect of her life. This is what is lacking with these judgemental parents. They are your children, you love them unconditionally.
Thank you so much! I'm a 17 year old gay daughter and reading this made my day!
Corey Benton I wish my mom was like you
im 14, and Asian. im sure we all know how Asians are, talking about western influence on gay people. anyway, i came out to my mum only recently, though it's been probably 3 years since i realised i wasn't like other girls, who went gaga over boys, who i did not find attractive, even in the least. i cried for nearly an hour before i got the words out of my mouth. i was struggling so much with myself, and i was afraid she'd be disappointed n me, because my father is extremely critical/judgemental/close-minded and mocks gay people, lgbtq people. he once said that a gay couple shouldn't even be considered a couple, which really stirred up some anger in me. as much as my mother was in denial, despite her constantly repeating the fact that i was young and impressionable, maybe confused, she would tell me that she would love me no matter what, who i became when i grew older, who i started a family with, because i was her daughter and she loved me. i told her my father was very against lgbtq people and that he threatened to disown me if i ever came out to him, but she kept trying to defend him, though honestly, knowing the person my father is, didn't really make sense. what matters is the reassurance she gave me, that she would never ever hate me because of who i am, and so many non-lgbtq people don't understand that all we need is some comfort, some love from our parents. we, as children, constantly seek approval from our parents and so, your comment is lovely! thank you for being so accepting :)
pansexual is basically bisexual though
But it's nice that people like you exist. That's sweet. Omg I never said "sweet" before
I feel so bad for Jackie. She’s suppressing her sexuality, and I don’t think that’s healthy. I kind of have a feeling that she isn’t truly happy.
I agree fully. I think she's going to either get sick of faking or just live a resentful life.
Why do I feel like her husband is also 'ex-gay'?
CotoureCAKES that’s not how it works, sis. She’s GAY. She still likes women she even said so herself. She’s suppressing her lesbianism and it’s sad. And fornication is not the same thing as being a lesbian. One of those things is a choice the other isn’t.
@@abenagyampo I used to have sex outside of marriage. Now since becoming born again God has transformed me by His Spirit. I have been made aware by the everlasting God that my sin ( all sin.) Seperates me from Him. But the thing about Gods Love and Being Born again is , You just have to experience it for yourself in order to understand Gods Transforming power in your Life. Blessings.❤
CotoureCAKES having sex before marriage isn’t the same as being gay at all.
CotoureCAKES yes but you see, you still had sex. You sinned already. Even if you repented you STILL had sex out of wedlock. God is forgiving he loves all. Jackie is *gay* even though she has found god she is still *gaaay*. You can stop having sex but you can’t stop who you love. She even said it herself, she still find women attractive however she repressed those feeling.
I keep coming back to this video every few months. it gives me hope things will be ok.
+shukezi Sending you positivity! 💕
One of my favorite things on one of those signs I've seen was "God hates yoga pants" of all the things to be upset about
I didn’t even see that 😂 so ridiculous , are they blaming LGBTQ+ plus people for yoga pants 🙈😂 “LGBTQ+YOGAPANTS”
They're too sexual and too informal obvs
I mean, that is a sign I could proudly stand behind xD
I think God is more upset with slavery, sexual violence, gun violence, and discrimination than God is with...yoga pants.
WTF???!!!
There is nothing more invalidating than a parent saying they don't care about LGBT rights and safety when you yourself are LGBT.
Any parent who does that is not really a parent in my book. My "parents" are like that and cutting ties with them so I could find a real family (one that cares) was the best thing I ever did.
As a mother, I truly believe that anyone who disowns their child because they come out as gay or trans or whatever, they are not fit to be called a parent.
I just want to know how it's even an option? I couldn't think of one thing my child could do or be that would make me not love and support them. They could be felons and I'd be dragging my ass to a prison for visitations. Like WHAT?.🤷♀️ I MADE THAT HUMAN AND ITS MINE! FUCK YOUR OPINIONS and STOP ACTING LIKE YOU HAVE AN OPTION!
Andrea Lindley you seem like an amazing mom
Andrea Lindley your child is not your property.... they will grow apart from you like branches on a tree- connected, but distanced. don’t push your kid away with this projection bullshit. like every other human being in the world, they will be different from you and will hold different opinions and beliefs. if you keep it up or invalidate their own respectable decisions in any way, your kid will move out at 18 and will never speak with you again.
I was a Christian until a pastor pulled me aside and told me I was going to hell for questioning my sexuality. (I’m bi) and he then told my dad to kick me out of the house. I was 17. He told me I was no better than murderers. He compared me loving people to killing people. I can’t believe that loving people is a reason to go to hell... I haven’t been to church since because in Texas where I live there is no lgbt friendly churches near me and I don’t want to be made to hate myself again. I don’t want to feel bad that I am myself. So I don’t identify as any religion but I do believe there is likely a higher power but I am just going to live my best life the way I see fit, not following an outdated book written by people.
@Benjiji What are you hoping to accomplish through this comment?
Sorry that they did that to you. That pastor is definitely not a man of God since he is preaching hate. If a pastor did this, I won't be coming to his church.
I love near Dallas and Waco (idk where you are), but fortunately if you ever move to these areas there are churches who accept the lgbtq+ community with open arms. You are wonderful and I hope your life is wonderful and happy 💕
Jessie Ghost im in the Dallas area myself. It’s just the church I was with was horrible like that. But it’s ok I’m happy with who I am and the beliefs I have :)
I'm so truly sorry.Your pastor was not of christ,he was a hateful false prophet .."you shall know them by your fruits.A good tree cannot produce bad fruits,"
"For if I prophesy or cast out demons but have not love...I have nothing".
Trust me you can be gay and Christian...they arent mutually exclusive.
I'm really sorry you were hurt by that evil pastor
I think it’s so inspiring how Grace and Jackie, people who have pretty different view points, can have a civil and respectful conversation with each other. It proves that people with drastically different opinions can co-exist.
Agreed! I think this world would be a lot better if people could realize that it’s possible to disagree with someone but still be respectful
Bi Christian here, and i almost started sobbing at just hearing the dude pray, I would've loved to hear the whole sermon. I'm Southern Baptist, so the culture around LGBT isn't good where I am, but what I would give to go to that church even just once
It's 5am here and I felt a sob almost come out from the way the dude prayed. That was one of the most beautiful prayers I have ever had the chance to hear
I teared up not gonna lie
Ola B oh fuck off bitch
It's so cool to find another bisexual Christian! My father is a pastor so I grew up in the church. After my parents split I really took my time to rethink Christianity and where I stand in the religion. And if I'm honest, I'm not a "Christian" I'm a God follower and I spread the positivity of the Lord. "Christianity" has been so twisted and corrupted by the people who protest at parades and spread negatively saying "God hates the Gays". In reality, God is a God of love, peace, order and everything good. Along side with me being a young woman in the faith, I don't judge others for their different religion (or lack thereof for some) Pride is about equality. God is for equality (from my understanding) I'm for equality ❤️❤️❤️
Pancakes Syrup how can I when this person is being plain rude by replying with such negativity to this positive post. It’s disgusting.
"I don't see God calling people to be straight, I see him calling people to be Holy." What a sentence... 8:26
Calling people to be holy while saying "you're only holy if you are straight" is THE SAME THING as calling people to be straight.
Otherwise why would she had forced herself into a traditional marriage?
She has the same opinions as the people who put teenagers in conversion therapy, she's just more politically correct while expressing it, which leads to pretty sounding but contradictory statements like that one.
As my grandma would say, church isn't a home for saints; it's a hospital for sinners.
@YikesBikes Congratulations, you missed the point
@YikesBikes Name calling and lack of humility... Are you sure you are a Christian???
Explain the point of the comment if you didn't missed it. Lol
Seems like a oxymoron...
“probably one direction”
ahhhh, a cultured woman you are.
I was raised by a lesbian couple, and I turned out fine. I am lesbian and my wife and I will likely adopt if we ever have any kid(s), which is unlikely
Your story is super heartwarming but the shirtless Shrek pfp caught me off-guard 😂
@@grace3864 i mean why wouldn't it catch you off guard??? It's shrek after all😩👌
@@musiqlover961 Felt that bro.
I’m sorry you had to be raised in that environment. Maybe you turned out fine but maybe you just didn’t know any different. I hope they didn’t molest you. 🥺 I was raised in an abusive home and didn’t even realize it wasn’t normal and thought I turned out ‘fine’ until I started to realize what happened wasn’t ok. Hope the best for you and you find hope and healing.
@@MrsHannahSophia huh?
Although I disagree with Jackee, I like her much more than I thought I would. We need to keep having these discussions.
same, i thought i wasnt gonna like her at all but i didnt hate her. It just makes me sad that she is forcing herself to be someone who she is not
Ikr.
Idk I think she’s just very confused about Christianity and how serious to take what the Bible says and what preachers say.
Divorce has been considered a huge sin in Christianity so to think that divorcing someone... to fake being strait is a holy decision, is once again picking and choosing what to believe in.
Bottom line is treat others the way you would wish to be treated, and mind your own business when it’s not your place to judge.
If you’re religious you should know well that the only person allowed to pass judgment onto others is god.
The only exception in judging others in my opinion is those who are arrested and under trial for crimes.
I feel sad for her. I hope she comes to love herself. 💜
Yup. I think it's because her message has been taken into the hands of the more extreme side of Christianity and made into something different than what she's saying. I don't agree with her, but I don't think she's a Westboro Baptist type either lol
it's 'love thy neighbor' not 'love thy neighbor unless they are gay' God accepts and loves us all no matter our sexuality or how we identify as. have a good day 🏳️🌈❤
God loves us all... he offers that love in the form of forgiveness..... but He doesn't love everything we do. Sin cannot enter heaven.... and all human beings are sinful... the only way to have our sin 'removed' from us, is to be forgiven. And, we can't be forgiven if we don't ask for forgiveness. And the only way to ask for forgiveness, and receive it, is through acknowledgement of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. As he said, " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"
Love thy neighbour not their sin
@-- Pedophilia actively harms children.
LGBTQ+ does not.
The kind of hate that for example W*stboro B*ptist spreads absolutely does.
@Franka *66 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Matthew 7 1-2, NIV
@Franka *66 you are imposing your interpretation of a document that has been translated through several languages on others, and assuming yours is the true interpretation.
“What other group has as much police protection around us?”
“Uh..probably One Direction?”
I know I’m supposed to take this video seriously but I couldn’t stop laughing
Savannah B IM LITERALLT CRYING JAHUAQJIAJAHAHAAH
Shes not wrong. Police have protected white supremacists protesting pride before protecting the people not doing anything
Emerson Hawks yeah lol I just found it funny
i used to have frequent dreams about being chased by killers, cops, witches, sirens...for as long as i can remember. but since i've realized and accepted who i am, i don't have any dreams like that anymore. this is also the least depressive/suicidal I've been in 6 years! :)
I'm so glad you're doing okay ! you're amazing, don't forget that okay ? ^^
Whoa! That is scary! I hope you're still doing well!
I appreciate "Jackie's" honesty. Even though she decided to NOT have sex with women she still fantasizes and have dreams about women. So she is "heterosexual" on the outside but a lesbian on the inside? She said it's something that she would probably struggle with until the day she dies which proves that it can not be "prayed" away or even "converted" away but it's a matter of how you "choose" to live. She is a lesbian that "chose" to live a heterosexual life.
bisexuality exist
She chose a life that makes her happy.
Emily Schueller she’s clearly not. but she’s serving the lord which matters to her over what she truly wants. (i think she is torturing herself. i pity her. i wish she loved herself enough to be with someone she truly has feelings for)
Sammy 423 i agree. i struggled w internalized homophobia for years and i’m so glad it was never that bad for me. i’ve definitely forced myself to be w guys but not to that extent :/
Sammy 423 i pity her
I’m sorry to say it but it’s most religious ppl that pushed me away from god
Exactly. They just judge you and feel like their religion (out of thousands of recorded religions) is the right and true and logical way to live. And if you don't find their made up stories true then you'll burn in hell.
I left the church and I'm not turning back. I can't stand the judgement and criticism
For me its the same case but i beleive in the existence of a supernatural being ......whether its budha, alla, conficious.........just like the simplisity of it. Christianity just makes me fell confined and limited to a subset of rules which if brocken leave a heavy guilty conscience.
Btw i am from kenya where if you dare speak aginst religion or challenge it .....one is outrightly considered a devil worshipper or possesed with demons😢
I had a hard time dealing with that at age 12/13 when I was caught dating a girl. I've stopped attending church since. I was raised catholic and although I sometimes like my religion, I don't at other times bc I still don't like the people that still believe "god hates gays" and "being gay is sinful"....
Their hypocrites.if they worried about someone else household their are worst most likely.they pick and choose what they choose out of the bible.god don't like hypocrite ppl or using his name to hurt ppl
I’m so sorry that you’ve felt that way, i can’t promise that those people will cease to exist but what I can promise is that I will do better and continue to do my best to undo the harm or remove this tension. God bless
Homophobic man, “What other group has this many protection around us!?”
Grace, “Probaly One Direction”
Omega I can’t stop laughing she’s amazing! XD
I hope that, that guy realizes that those officers are there to protect the people at pride, not those assholes that are only going against God but judging others
Don't forget that Grace is a comedienne.
Loool
They are standing there only because everyone else at the parade wants to kill them, not because they believe them.
Conversion therapy survivor here... I was 15, too. I wasn't sent anywhere, it was "telehealth" - but it was extremely damaging.
Kenneth Zucker was the "therapist's" name.
People praise him as a saint of medicine, if he truly was, why did he prey on 15 year old me? Why did he ask these same extremely s&&ual questions to children as young as 8 and 9? How can he get away with this?
Imagine protesting the existence of a group of people?? cannot relate.
Katelyn true
Pedophiles? Racists? Democrats?
@orange butthole DEMOCRATS 😂😂 true
That seems like a low-key step before, oh I don't know, genocide...? It's just really frightening, to dehumanize a whole community just because of sexuality, gender, color, race.
@@mr16325 More like Republicans
My friend is being sent to a “weight loss camp” in the south this summer. But we’re afraid it’s conversion therapy
i really really hope it won't be. look, i'm not qualified at all to tell you this, but maybe try to really empower them before then, and give them little mantras to remember just in case, like "i am valid, i am okay the way i am, i am proud to be me" or sth like that? and have them know that it's totally fine to put on a show and lie in order to survive. just some ideas to prepare just in case, let me know if they are bad, y'all. wishing you both all the best
If it’s true then let him know he has a friend
Stand up for him
I hope his parents are not deceiving him like that. He may never trust them again. A really bad experience at conversion therapy camp can require years of therapy to recover. Get as much information about the camp as you can. Ask him to write you a letter using the camps return address. Then you can find out. If it is really a weight loss camp you can relax a little. Either way let him know you will love and support him when he returns.
Has the camp gotten cancelled because of the pandemic??? I’ll be praying it does get cancelled and praying that your friend can find more people that accept them for who they are!❤️
Katelyn Rose i really hope it’s cancelled. it should be
My Christian friend found out I was atheist, so she encouraged me to replace Jesus, who I had disavowed, with Timothée Chalamet. She told me to worship
Timothée Chalamet
I WHEEZED
BRUH LMAOO
She's confused but she's got the spirit
LMFKANSKD💀💀
i am NOT going to be worshiping a god named TIMOTHY
I told my mom I was Bi, and it didn’t seem like a big deal- however every time we’re watching a movie an woman kiss or men kiss she goes “ew” and tries to say she isn’t prejudice, “she just doesn’t want it thrown in her face.”
thrown in her face is so funny because straightness is thrown in everyones face 24/7. But then again most ppl feel uncomfortable with public affection in general idk
I am a Christian lady and I just want to say... when I have children, my home will be a safe space for my children and anyone to talk to me about their sexual orientation without hate. I don't believe in judging people, and I wish I could hug everyone who has to deal with being treated horribly for being lgbtq+
Bless you 💖
As a bisexual agnostic girl I want to say thank you writing this comment. I wish I could like this comment a million times. It really hurts to see a lot of people do harm to people that are apart of the lgbt community. This comment made my night, thank you and you're awesome 🙏
@@leahgachaproductions it's hard to listen to Christians who actually care about you bc of the many many centuries of the unfair treatment they've gotten. DOnt give up on life man and if you feel you're ever on the edge call to God you don't have to I'm not forcing you but He never left me
Thank you ma’am, you are a true positive role model for your religion 🖤🖤🖤
oh my gosh same 😭
honestly i kinda want at least one of my kids to be LGBTQ+ i would give them hugs and kisses every day. no one deserves to be treated differently or even get abused for something they cant control 😭😭😭
"Am I even gay ?!" *smile* "Yeah I am, I'm very gay." Same honey
Same
Ha! Nice 😜
“Probably One Direction” I am cry laughing. I actually had to pause the video.
I spent my 17th birthday in a conversion camp. Didn't do a bit of good. I'm still me, still gay, and still happy.
what do you mean by "good" ?
I wish I could see more of Jackie and Grace! The conversation was so open, so healthy, and so vulnerable.
The only intolerant I will ever be is lactose intolerant. Love is love!
Same. Still not giving up on my love for dairy though 😅 #DiarrhoeaForDairy
@@IncrediBelleJessi literally me, i aint gonna give up chocolate lmao
@@Rosie-ww6xj I'm fine without chocolate, but never try to take away my cheese
Same! I will die for ice cream and for equal rights
fleurdewever catch me still eating cheese like there’s no tomorrow 🤪
As said by Lady Gaga - No matter gay, straight or bi, lesbian, transgender life, I’m on the right track baby I was born to survive
@@sagewasserman363 or Omnis
Lady Gaga? If she is your god, God help us all.
@@s-truth what???? No one said lady gaga is God, are you high????
@@Nick-dx2pt Go back to sleep. I will wake you when the panic is over.
@@s-truth wtf man ur making no sense
I grew up in Assemblies of God...I was in such a dark place as a teen...but hid it best I could....my parents never forced me into conversion therapy....but I pursued it on my own behind their backs..it was a nightmare...a lot has happened since then and today...I love Jesus and I love myself...I have forgiven myself and my parents...and I am so fortunate to have an amazing and accepting family...I know I am exactly where God wants me to be and I am blessed every day...I hope to someday have my own ministry to help other GLBTQA Christians and make sure they know that people will disappoint you...but Jesus never fails. Your videos Grace give me such hope and are such a blessing to watch...thank you!
I’m a straight catholic girl, and I am disgusted in these people, disgusted. We do not claim the horrible homophobes, I feel sick to the stomach, please know that me and my friends support the lgbtq community very much, and we are sorry about the real sinners in this situation.
If god was meant to forgive murder. If god cannot hate. Then loving the same gender Won’t be ‘forgiven’ but accepted
Also, isn’t your priest gay if he’s married to god who is depicted as a man? I am only 11 but I will never stop showing lgbtq people the respect and understanding they deserve
I am now atheist, but was Christian in my youth. God is not depicted as a man, but made man in his image. People often confuse god creating man in his image with god creating men in his image. On another note, it is good to be disgusted with these people.
Fellow Catholic here. I’d just like to say that Catholic Priests “marry” the church, not Jesus.
One thing I get from reading the comments is that many gay people bunch all straight people in with the bigots and ignorants. That in itself is very prejudiced and unfair.
Satan means TRUTH in ancient Vedic Sanskrit, mankind's original language.
Satanisgod.org
Yes girl!! Being a Christian means to love all!❤
okay but can we take a moment to appreciate how beautiful and understanding grace is?? like seriously I wish I had her patience and holy hell is she gorgeous!!
As a Christian I don't agree with what the protesters are doing. God is love and as a Christian I make sure that I show love towards everyone I met. Calling homosexuals awful names does not make them better. It's because of people like that that makes people second guess God.
@@Andy_Dagamer yes, it is wrong. But, you have to approach the situation in the right way. Allow the love you have and the holy spirit inside of you to change someone.
According to the bible there is a lot of crap that isn’t “right” but that doesn’t stop the christians from breaking the commandments! So..... being holier than thou isn’t working. You go to church every Sunday, ask for forgiveness for your sins of the last week, are forgiven then you leave church, there you go again, sinning until the next Sunday.....what the hell is that about!?
Thank You... I don't like christians protesting that way.. I am a christian, a ministers daughter and and ex-lesbian and by Ex meaning i not longer am attracted to women. Jesus Changed me.
@@briannacollie2742 Why is it wrong though? I don't see a problem with people gay at all. They're not hurting anyone. I believe that love is love and that if they want to get married and start a family with someone of the same sex there shouldn't be a problem. Ngl if you weren't Christian and the bible didn't say it was bad then nobody would think it was bad at all. I don't think God can change sexuality because that would be like trying to change your personality. Nobody is defined by their sexuality and nobody should be. Just accept who you are and as long as your happy that's all that matters. Christian's cause so much hate, anger and shame people for just being themselves considering the bible tells you to love everyone and forgive everyone.
@Lodin Norðurljósson Why do they have to change though? They aren't hurting you, they aren't hurting anyone in fact. Just because Christians think it's bad to be gay doesn't mean it's actually bad. Just live your life and they'll live theirs, accept them and be nice and there shouldn't be a problem. You telling them that they "have" to change doesn't mean all gay people will go "Oh shit yeah your right I should totally just turn straight" like no that's not how it works. they were born gay and that's ok. You don't see gay people telling straight people that they should change and be gay because it's what they think is best.
LOVE HAS NO GENDER! Love whoever you want love, God made everyone in his imagines and likeness, I am Christian and I accept the LGBTQIA Community!
Edit: I have figured out who I am, I am bisexual and bigender and I use pronouns he/him/they
If you believe God made everyone in his image and likeness you cannot be homosexual because God is not a homosexual.
@@s-truth But you're wrong God loves everyone. Guess what, what you say doesn't matter because I'm not gonna listen to a homophobic person. I'm Christian, bisexual and God loves me regardless who I am. So you go do what you homophobes which is apparently putting your opinion where's not relevant.
@@Dannaboy23 And you have proof that I am wrong or is that just a throwaway line to avoid facing the truth? From my experience I would say it is probably the second as I have noticed homosexuals hate the truth. Either that or they can't handle it.
By the way, what is a homophobe?
@@s-truth Omg if you don't know what a homophobic person like you is, you could've done a 3-step google search but I'll spare that 3-step process (which is not hard to do if you don't know what a word means) A homophobic like yourself hates gay people or if you want the google definition-having or showing a dislike of or prejudiced against gay people. And 1 more thing before I stop replying to you, you are the reason that Christianity is looked upon as a religion being forced upon others. You are a part of that problem if you are going to comment on other people's comments about our religion. Oh wait I'm sorry I'm supposed to say "but we don't hate the sinner we hate the sin" you and many other people are the reason many people are leaving the church
@@Dannaboy23 thank you for standing on what you believe in, instead of what this homophobic person has to say.
Gay Christian here. This video warms my heart. We do exist!
Nina Yee Yes we do!
@@naomideoliveira1886 Im here!!!!
Hi!
Hey I am so happy for you that you are gay, but you can not be christian, you just can't rewrite the bible. What you have done is essentially create a new, hybrid religion with a new god. I also see nothing wrong with that. I wish you the best life.
Anthony Lowney no I worship the same God I read my Bible and I know he loves me. I feel like I’m being rude. So sorry if I am.
It's hard to be mad at people like Jackie Hill Perry. Honestly, I just feel sad. Thinking that God wouldn't want you to love who you are meant to love really can ruin a person.
Did she say that, though?
@@lockettowl No, she would say that God wants her to love Him. But that certainly doesn't mean that we shouldn't find love here on earth.
@@Breerox108 but again, at what point on this video is there any suggestion that JHP is not free to love anyone? Did she say that? What would cause you to infer that?
@@lockettowl She will not allow herself to be in a relationship with a woman, even though that is who she is attracted to.
Kevin Lockett the fact that she says that being in a gay marriage is something that requires divorce. The fact that she is forcing herself into a heterosexual relationship when she knows she’s not attracted to men. (She May be bi, in that case, there’s no reason for this to be a testimony as nothing changed and she only went with what she thought fit what she thought God’s narrative was)
The prayer that took place in the church made me cry, I have never heard a prayer like that and it has made me the happiest person ever right now
Theresa Clegg I’m not even Christian and I don’t think my cat appreciated me crying into his fur
I don’t identify myself as lgbt (but I’m not entirely opposed to the idea of being in a relationship with a woman either, so maybe I could be bisexual in the future). The point that I wanted to express though is, that despite meeting with my Christian community every week, I still struggle with the idea of labeling myself a Christian because of many extreme one sided views on different matters (including sexual orientation and attraction). These are very deep thought provoking episodes and I wanted to express my gratitude and love towards Grace and everyone who made this.
I was a queer Christian for a time (I am no longer a Christian but not because I am queer, just because I found that Christianity is just my religion). I live in Germany though, where most Christians are rather progressive in comparison to what I see in the US. Me being queer was not an issue and I know there are many communities that don't have an issue either. In my youth group was a lesbian who is still a devout Christian now, organizing events for younger ones while openly queer.
I hope you find a group that accepts you as you are.
don't worry about christians views, take your personal relationship with God to the bible
“Lesbians can’t raise kids” well that Jackie Perry woman seems to be raising her children fine
I SCREAMED
by their logic their parents should be lesbian 👀
plssss
@Kay Two i dont believe in god what
@Kay Two she says she still does and always will experience an attraction to women
Finding a gay community with people who also identify as Christian is really hard. I am so thankful that there’s someone opening the discussion about safe spaces for Christian & LGBTQ persons. Thank you.
Lovely friend, You’re not alone 💛💛💛
“I’m a lesbian (big shock).”
*BIG MOOD*
"What other group, has this much police protection?!"
" _probably one direction_ "
“She wasn’t ready for the spirit”
"Probably One Direction"
I DIED
s a m e
Samee
SAME 😂
Same 💀
I don't agree with Jackie at all, but I can't help but notice beautiful of a person she is and how she approaches everything with a sort of love and understanding.
I don't mean to make an assessment of someone's sexuality, but I am wondering if perhaps she is bisexual. Obviously, that could make it much easier to adjust to heteronormative lifestyle. She seems like a good person, though. I didn't get a hateful vibe from her at all.
Javier Garza that’s what I thought too, she’s in a straight marriage and attracted to her husband? And she likes women
I absolutely agree. I don’t agree with her but she seems like such a relatable person. I hope she finds happiness because she’s in denial about herself.
I think that is all that any sane person will ever expect from you.
im christian, not apart of the lgbt community but i fully support, admire, and respect them all. :D
Awww thank you! I’m also a Christian and a lesbian!
We respect you too :D
Hey your pfp.. did you draw it? Cause the coloring looks so cool~
I suck at digital art😭
@@wethandlebar no i suck at art lol
dats amazing to hear
i actually kinda like the jackie girl. i feel like she was respectful and able to see both sides.
Because she's a great person, but she's just damaged and in the closet.
the other side is "being gay is a sin" she just says in a nicer way and tries to wear you down with pretty words.
clown
You really need to see her on something other than this. I've seen her before and she is awful.
Dominic Gunderson in the closet? I’m sorry but telling the world you dream about your ex gf (while being a girl) I’m pretty sure your not in the closet 💀
Has Jackie considered maybe she’s bisexual and that’s why she can have a happy and loving relationship with a man while still finding women attractive??? Orrrr
A lot of lesbians have sex with men and can enjoy it and Jackie obviously cares for her husband but it seems to me that she does not live her truth.
Of course sexuality can be on a spectrum but in the way she expressed herself I think she craves the touch and energy of women, something which her husband will never be able to give her.
This is off topic IS THAT ISAK FROM SKAM SKSKS
Diy Lover YES MA’AM
Josie yeah that’s true, I’m just offering another explanation. Obviously none of us truly know her true feelings but🤷🏼♂️
Odd that she's still having dreams about her ex gf..i mean, not odd i guess. I'd dream about my gf too if she was the last person i truly loved.
I feel really sad for Jackie... She seems like such a kind human being. I wish she gave herself the permission to be herself
bookcreator I think she will be alright.
Same i like her as a person but this repression is sad
So y'all think she's lying?
She's a real Christian - she knows that serving the lord is first and foremost, and that her own desires do not matter. All real Christians know this. Christianity is not about the self. It's about putting off the parts of yourself which love sin, taking up your cross, and following God. We all have to do it. If someone is looking for a faith that pats you on the back, says you're perfect just the way you are, and to do exactly as you will.... the last place they should look is Christianity. As C.S. Lewis said "There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it."
Syd Lane And yet these are the same people who get divorced and stay rich instead of giving their money to the less fortunate. Spare me. If God exists, they have bigger things to care about than who people sleep with
I felt refreshed after listening to your vid. I am terminal not with cancer. I have a very rare neurological disorder so having fun in this life has escaped me.
“Thats a lot of paperwork, Jackie!” That cracked me up 😂
I really appreciated hearing Jackie's perspective. I'd never considered her position before or knew that people like her existed. She surprised me. I genuinely feel like she has love for LGBTQ people, just by the way she spoke to you and about her experiences.
It’s a shame that she can’t love or accept herself.
And that her anti-gay advocacy is actually causing a lot of harm to fellow LGBT+ people.
The whole situation is so sad.
@@alexbennet4195 with all due respect she does love herself. I also am a Christian who is attracted to women and she’s explaining that just because you have desires for something that is wrong doesn’t mean you need to do it. We are all called to take up our cross and follow Christ. So for some it may be lying, stealing, attraction to children for the gay person it is being attracted to the same sex. Because we are sinful in nature we are going to desire things that aren’t good for us. I believe it’s okay that you are attracted to the same sex because G-d loves us all but he asks us all to surrender ourselves to Him. Even if you believe you were born that way He says that we need to be born again(John 3:3). Romans 1:25-32 explains why we sin and why we are attracted to things that G-d say is evil it’s because we love the sin more than Him. That doesn’t mean once we surrender to him we might not fall or stumble but if we walk with Him he will guide us. It also doesn’t mean we will be healed from our desires but that He will give us and teach us self control to not act upon it.
@@itsyaaveragegirl Oh sweetheart, you’re going to live a very sad and empty life, and die unfulfilled - all for what? An idea of a god that doesn’t accept the way you naturally are, and your personal wishes and desires that don’t harm, but instead enrich others - for what reason is this god so unaccepting? There literally isn’t even one - isn’t worth it.
I struggle to understand this cult-like mentality of ultimate subservience to authority, not thinking for yourself, and making decisions based on, like, actual reason, and desire to make the world a better place where we want and allow others to experience happiness during their lives - but because you were told to, and free thought is bad. Yet, when this mentality exists, why are we so surprised by all the atrocities humankind has committed?
I hope you are able to break away from this. Until then I pity you.
@@alexbennet4195 I am fulfilled and very happy. G-d accepts us all and loves us all but we are all called to surrender to the Most High who created us. He gives me a choice to serve Him. Just because I don’t live by my desires doesn’t mean I’m unhappy. I do think for myself, the Bible has more historical data than any other book including works from Plato and Socrates. It has withstand thousands of years written not by one author but 40 authors with cultural differences some were kings, fishermen, exiled princes, military leaders, philosophers, tax collectors, historians and even a Pharisee. And it all pointed to a sovereign G-d. The Bible is the only book that was written and assembled over a vast number of generations and still intact no other historical book can say that. The Bible is used when geologist go on digs and are looking for artifacts of the old world. The world tells us we come from fish but cannot find the missing link, the they say we evolved from non complex organisms but yet cannot tell us how. They say we evolved from apes but yet apes are still around. True Christianity is accepting of everyone and asks everyone including the gay, the sexual immoral, the liar, and the murderer to surrender. True Christianity is the only religion that tells us that it’s grace that saves us not works. So the reason why I am able not to act upon my desires is because His grace and His power not my own. It’s okay that you don’t agree with me and I’m not forcing you to but you cannot tell me that I am will be unfulfilled because I don’t live according to what you believe. Yes a lot of bad things has been done by the church but less 7% of wars fought was because of Christianity more people died at the hands of non Christians than true Christians. And let’s be clear not every person who claims to be Christian are. All those Christians who use conversion therapy are not true Christians. But I can understand your issues with the Church because I had them too. But once I started to not look at G-d through the horizontal relationships I had with people but instead the vertical relationship I had with Him I was able to understand that even Christian are sinners and will use His name to push their own agenda but the doesn’t mean He doesn’t exist or haven’t blessed me.
@@alexbennet4195 no need to pity me because I know I’ve made the right choice and I am happy. No one told me to follow Him instead He drew me to Himself. No one brainwashed me, I just started asking questions and every single one was answered through His word
My face is covered in bisexual tears.
lollll
S a m e! I hope I get to go to pride this year with my man.
And mine is covered in asexual tears at the incredible hate in the comments.
TopHatKitty me too
Emily Schueller ooh wow my eyes are covered in biromantic asexual tears