I'm currently not very religious because I'm conflicted/hurt about how I can be a Christian but also not be reprimanded for who I love (I'm a cis gender lesbian💕). Any tips/suggestions on how to combat it???🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Yes i felt like the transgender community was a walking target for the religious right and those who liked to pile on the hate and hurtful rhetoric of there Bible interpretations . So now i'm older so more prone to shrugging things off or because i found a church that leads by example. It is the latter answer.
Not necessarily my identity, but my beliefs conflict with faith. I’ve always been very accepting of LGBTQ+ identities, and it kills me to see those identities not deemed acceptable in the church. For that and many more reasons, I refuse to got to Church.
Speaking as a senior citizen ( no boomer comments please), I appreciate this channel. Grace is a perfect name for you, intelligent, curious, excellent critical thinking skills, writer and seeker and beautiful 🕊.
Heidi Carter “no boomer comments please) I found that funny ps. a boomer is more of a mindset and not about how old you are - for all the people who say ok boomer to every senior lol
as a teenage lesbian woman who grew up in an anti lgbtqa+ church, this made me rethink everything that I was taught to hate about myself....maybe God really does love me.
Heaven Culver I knew I was bisexual by the time I was around 14 or so . I’m 20 now and since then I left the church and religion as a whole for the same reasons and many more. I was repulsed with myself and hated the fact that I couldn’t control who I’m attracted to bc of the faith I had . I think leaving the religion gave me the peace and clarity that I found within myself that I always needed. Even tho I was a completely normal teen that loved hanging out with my friends all the time ,social media ,the office and friends , sports ,etc , you would’ve never thought I’d literally rip my hair out and hit myself in the face then cry myself to sleep over my sexuality and faith . Now I’m more peaceful then ever knowing that it’s ok to be selfish and by that I mean it’s ok to be exactly who you were meant to be unapologetically . With all that being said some people are the opposite and found peace ,still being comfortable with themselves in the church bc they feel loved unconditionally and I think that’s amazing . Whatever path you choose, just know that at the end of the day you will always have the ability to be at peace and love yourself and no god or person can ever take that away 💕
Mackenzie McGee I believe so too. They don’t need their parts to reproduce , like us humans do. (Just my beliefs) I also believe our genitals don’t define our souls.
Actually they do, they're all male. There are no female angels. The Bible actually says when one becomes born again they become a son of God, including women. Now obviously they are still a "daughter" of God or sister, but they are also a son. Even when someone gets their glorified body in Heaven, they'll all be male, again including women. And it's not a sexist thing, that's just the way God did it.
As a trans person who struggles to find a place in the church, this was so uplifting. It makes me happy to see Christians out there loving people for who they are. :)
@@Mamaaaaaaaaaaaaa Why are you even here. I did everything the church "recommends". It only brought pain and despair. Sometimes it's best to listen to others experience. Instead most would rather take the easy route and read a single verse. Btw, I am happy with myself. No more depression, anxiety, or suicidal thoughts. I'm thriving socially and physically. 10 years of "church recommended cures" never brought a second of that. Have a blessed day ;p
@J M Don't listen to them. You have your journey that you are living and that is 100% valid and you will always have a place as God's beloved child, regardless of gender. You do you.
@@laurenholland8053 Thank you! yeah i dont listen. people like that will never believe some one like me is happy even if its staring them in the face. they have a lot of issues they project lol.
@@i-wasbored7187 believing the lies of the enemy is NOT Christianity good sir. It's wickedness plain and simple. *(2 Thessalonians **2:11**-12)* For this very reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. So that all will be condemned who have not believed the Truth but have delighted in wickedness. Why should you perish? REPENT AND LIVE!
@@janepatton8100 The fact that you glossed over "hating people for who they are isn't christianity" and kept going... you do realize love thy neighbor is in the bible too, right? also, the fact that God is the almighty judge. and that he's compassionate and kind and loving. all those things that you're conveniently glossing over.
Being a transgender Christian wouldn’t work because if you believe in God but also believe that you were born as the wrong sex, then you’re technically accusing God of making a mistake by making you the way you’re born, and that goes against the saying that God never makes mistakes. Any comments?
I used to care a lot about what religion people identify themselves with because I was an internet Atheist. now that I'm no longer a cringey teenage anti-theist, I couldn't care less what religion someone associates with as long as they respect other people's lives and identity. there are atheist who I wouldn't want on my side becuase they are hateful towards women and minorities. I'd rather have an open-minded religious person than a bigoted atheist on my side.
@A Girl Has No Name well I kind of started using it myself, though I'm sure others may have used it too. to me it just refers to the extremely online atheist community (mostly on youtube) that used to spend a ridiculous amount of time shitting on Christians, they eventually started to move toward "destroying" feminist and "SJWs"--basically anyone who questions the current race/gender/religious hierarchy
Hey hey. I think I'm probably a cringey internet atheist, but it's something that comes from experience with religion. The reason I care how religious people behave is that there are lots of them. Religion ostensibly makes my life worse, and it makes the lives of people who I care about worse. I spend time thinking about it because it's a threat to my desire to live my life the way I want to. I have a lot of empathy and respect for the religious people in my life, and religious people in general. But I wish people weren't religious. I wish I could explain why homophobia is irrational to someone, and not have them retreat to the statement "it's against my faith". I wish the men who I live with didn't believe I was inherently inferior to them because that's how God made us (they are able to back that up with Scripture). I don't force atheism on anyone, but I also can't claim to respect religion, I'd be lying. I'm glad you've found peace though. Anyway, have a good new year.
As a seminarian, I am so blessed by your work on this channel! The church is called to be a refuge from the world, not add to the pain. So many non-binary, non-cis, non-hetero people feel like they don't have a church home. Everyone is so aware of the section of Christianity that condemns. Thank you for beginning to expose the open, loving arms of Christ that do exist! May we be less difficult to find!
Colossians 3:5 Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality That goes for all of us......not just the trans community.
@@kcp2967 Matthew 22: 36Master, which is the great commandment in the law. 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. John 12:47 (KJV) And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. I'm not smart enough to understand how God formed you or me. Nor do I see the hearts we have...only he can do that... I would encourage you to spend more time showing love to your fellow brothers and sisters. I've also included a little biology article that I recently stumbled across and found quite educational. threadreaderapp.com/thread/1207834357639139328.html
@@kcp2967 yes, but that way is more likely to hurt or kill someone. Think about it...when was the last time you saw people being held accountable for being liars to the same extreme.
When I realized I was bi, I thought I had to choose between my religion and my sexuality. It's been a wild ride learning that I can do both (pun intended!). Thank you for this video! It's incredibly encouraging and impactful to learn more about other people who support or are LGBTQ+ in the Church. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one and it means a lot to see that I'm not.
I happen to be gay and support individuals. I don't support LGBTQ just as I don't support the Religious Right. When can we as a society champion people as individuals rather than judge or accept them based on their group identities and memberships. I surely hope that God sees me as a individual and calls me by my name rather than as that gay guy.
@니크 I support individual religious rights, i don't support the Religious Right. There is a huge difference. Rights should be given to individuals not to groups identity groups.
The beauty of Gods love for us is that while we were yet sinning and awful and wanted nothing to do with Him, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8). We should never question Gods love for us if He would do something like die for His enemies (Romans 5:10). However, God still calls all of us to repent of certain things and the Bible does say this is a sin even if RUclipsrs are saying it isn’t. The only reason I’m saying this to you isn’t so I can be mean and tear you down, but entirely because I know hell is a real reality and I would never want you to go there. It is not simply that you are gay and unforgivable, but the Bible says when we do not repent it is a sign we were never truly saved, no matter what the sin is. Again, I know I will sound like a jerk and I hope you know with all sincerity that was not my intent. Rather it was from fear and love even if that isn’t how it seems. Even if we change the Bible to fit with what we want, God still gave us what He is ultimately going to judge by. We shouldn’t let people change it to make people more comfortable and ultimately damn them because they’re too afraid to say what the Bible actually says.
Please be careful ,we are warned about false teachers! Ghosts are real and can enter your dreams/thoughts.....do not be afraid but "hold every thought captive as if it's not your own" Refrain from your fleshy desires (as hard as that is) keep reading the bible and searching for the truth.
immediately started crying at "we only know God because we know each other"; the whole line of conversation having to do with how we know God more by knowing one another touched me so deeply and resonated so strongly.
That woman that calls herself a Catholic feminist is my idol. I love my faith, and I am also very feminist. I've always thought I can still be Catholic even though I don't agree with everything the church stands for. My specific church community is loving, accepting, and empowering.
I wish my Catholic community was like this. My God-Mother made me to go confession to confess and ask the priest what he thought of my bisexuality and I left crying. It was horrible. I love Jesus and God and a lot of the Catholic things but I can’t get aboard with this anti-lgbt anti pro choice type of things, and always made to feel like I was a bad catholic because of it
We do not hate trans people for they are still human and deserve to feel loved. we just don’t support their actions. Love the sinner, hate the sin. The Catholic Faith is truly a really beautiful thing if only you take the time to learn what it’s all about :)
GemzMyLens how is being trans a sin. There’s absolutely nothing in the Bible that supports that. Maybe God creates people to be trans. Maybe it’s not a mistake. God works in mysterious ways.
I agree with what you said, and I'm not a grammar nazi, but 'transgender' is a verb, not a noun, so no one is "transgendered" they are simply 'transgender'. It also means that someone is not "a transgender", someone just is transgender.
We are all bad. In the Bible it says that no one is good except the Lord. Jesus himself said it. “And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.” (Mark 10:18)! Our standards of good are very low. If we are good, we are in no need of a savior. We all fall short, which is why we need Jesus, without him, without a real relationship with him, we won’t have eternity with the Father.
Oh my God, I LOVE Paula! I mean that comment at 11:53 "If there's anything Jesus *did*, it was to hold space for people in the margins." What a fantastic assessment of Jesus' ministry. One thing that always bothered me when I was a churchgoer was the attitude that only the people *at* church were worthy and they were worthy because they *went* to church. Like, how Pharasutical. And casually deadnaming herself? That's powerful. Not that I would encourage anybody to dead name a trans person because it can be horribly hurtful, but you could tell she was beyond that life. She could claim the person she was and still love the person she is. That's a big healing step for anybody.
"the first women and person of colour to hold her position" *runs from Scotland to America to high five her and the man before her. Then hugs everyone goes back to Scotland sleeps*
I love this. So recently a High Court Judge in India recently said in a judgment, "Ignorance is not a justification for discrimination" furthering the cause of LGBTQIA+ community in India.
"We only know God because we know each other".. wow. I am not even a Christian but this phrase touched me and I had tears in my eyes. I was bawling my eyes out for a few minutes after that. I'm not saying that I suddenly have faith in God but I feel deeply love by the universe right now. And I want to say, if someone reads this, no mather who you are, you deserve love and I love you all.
Pastor Jackie is the religious leader I have been craving since the day my uncle, a Presbyterian minister, told me to be grateful for my father’s abuse.
A few years ago, I use to attend a youth group that said they welcome all and do not care for sexuality and what your gender was. I loved that idea and had so much fun within the group . . . Until I came out to them in a conversation of getting to know another. I am lesbian, and my girlfriend actually use to go to the group. That exact night when we were doing our learning section. The leader said "We are going to talk about something a bit different tonight." Can you take a guess on what the subject was? It was on how being gay was a sin and we aren't allowed to be like this, but continued that statement with a follow up of "But God loves all. Though gay is a very bad sin." Now this whole learning section went deeper into how it was bad to like the same sex or even be trans, but I really don't remember because how angered I was. I excused myself and left to the bathroom. I was very upset and was left in the bathroom crying whilst angry. I stayed till it was time to leave, which I then told the leader of the group "I'm never coming back here. You have lost my trust. I thought this group was perfectly fine with LGBTQ Community???" I was crying as I was saying this all, because that was the first place I had ever felt welcomed and they never talked about that subject UNTIL I brought up my sexuality. Idfk. I grew up being told it was bad and I even knew that from the start for how much my grandma had said it was a sin. Even with being told that, I still somehow ended up liking women. Not only just that, but I liked then since a young age. I have still yet to tell my grandmother that I am a lesbian, but I am very scared because she always loved me and I have always loved her . . . I just don't know how she will react when I tell her the truth. This was a sort of little rant because I have never really told anyone besides my mom who found out about my relationship on accident when it slipped out from my dumb mouth, but she accepted me whole. I will always love my mom for being supportive. ♡ I want to one day attend a church, maybe, that can accept the community so I do not fear what I say to them or how I behave. If anyone understands. There are just none of those places that are safe like that where I have lived before.
Thank you for showing us Christians how to be better and do better to be inclusive and welcome people of all genders and those who live differently than us. It is very moving and very emotional to me ❤️ God Bless
Refinery29 you are truly playing a big part in shaping me as a human being and helping me be able to make a difference in our Christian communities. Thank you 👏🏽👏🏽
When that pastor said people walked out because he said they were LGBTQIA affirming, it hit me in the feels. I walked out of church when they said some anti LGBTQIA stuff. Cause I'm not about that...
I find that the Quaker and especially sihk religions, as well as some other minority religions, are truly about compassion. Sihkism spreads compassion to non human animals as well, as do some others. The religions that truly focus on the main parts their holy books teach about love and compassion, and not the every tiny detail in the book, are often the ones with the most kind and nonjudgemental people.
Matthew 22:39 says “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Meaning that you should love others just as much as you love yourself. No matter if another person is gay, trans or any other things in the LGBTQ+ community. I don’t really get why people like to be transphobic, homophobic or any other phobic that’s against LGBTQ, because we are all sinners. We have all fell from the hand of God. So what makes LGBTQ+ people any different from us? We are all human living on this Earth. It’s time that we take this barriers that we put above ourselves and break them down.
Ah! But if you are saved, how can you sin? Paul makes this point repeatedly. Being saved means we _can do_ ANYTHING but we _should do_ those things that build up others. Many Christians have been led astray by a tiny, insidious lie: Jesus yolk is light but must be weighed down with those Mosaic laws men have decided we must follow.
@@r-platt Exactly. The Jewish Law of the old testament is indeed divinely inspired and the word of God, but also it is the interpretation that an antiquated society held within the context of their own communities and beliefs. God is not static, God is ever changing and ever creating. If we aspire to be like God, we must not hold on to ancient customs as though they're infallible. Were these laws not recorded by men? After all, many of those who doubted Jesus and denied his divinity were those who upheld these Mosaic laws to a fault. We must be like Jesus, we must love one another.
@@BonejanglesTV Very well stated. Some would pointlessly argue semantics: that God inspired those authors to write exactly what He wanted. Regardless the old laws are fulfilled. That begs 2 questions: 1. What sin do trans people commit in seeking a healthy mind? 2. Does that make homosexual acts acceptable? Sure, people quote Paul's opinions, but people ignore most of those opinions - such as women having long hair. It seems hypocritical to then say, "Ah, but we will enforce this 1 rule."
Thank you for creating this video. It is hard to be a part of a Christian community that doesn’t discuss LGBTQIA+ issues. Like you said in the video, the effort that these people are taking to raise awareness and create an inclusive space is truly the love of Jesus!
Grace, you make the Internet and the world a better place. Everyone should see this, especially everyone who calls themselves Christian. God bless you! Xxx
This is fantastic!!! I was in big denile, I was condemning to the LGBT community and being myself behind closed doors. During one of my many prayers of "God take these feelings away", God asked me if I would praise Him for them, I said yes and did that for about a month. About a month later I was praying the same prayer again, and God said "Ok now embrace it and transition", so I obeyed God and it was like a breath of fresh air, and a weight lifted off me. my big sin was living to peoples vision of me and not of who I truly am.I asked God where does this get affirmed in His word, God directed me to Samuel, Samuel is at Jesse's to anoint a new King, he messes up many times. Then God says to him, "man judges by the outside, but He looks at the heart", it is in our heart and soul where we truly are not between our legs. You also talked of how the church doesn't reflect Jesus. I've seen this not only in the LGBT community but also with people who are different or make us uncomfortable.It hurts me when I see people turning from God who loves us so immensely to other things. One young trans girl turned to Satanism because she saw more love there, another trans woman turned to Buddhism. Another woman who just had a lot of tattoos just became an atheist because she couldn't see God anywhere. To me it seems like some Christians are blind or deaf because Jesus said " Do to others as you would have them do to you, love your neighbor as yourself, and what you have done to the least of these you did to Me."
J.J Abrams Trust me, you don’t wanna be any religion no matter what your identity. Atheist people tend to respect human dignity better than religious people.
We do not hate trans people for they are still human and deserve to feel loved. we just don’t support their actions. Love the sinner, hate the sin. The Catholic Faith is truly a really beautiful thing if only you take the time to learn about it from actual good sources :)
GemzMyLens I strongly disagree that it’s beautiful. Why does the Church hate the actions so much? And from what I heard on websites, the line “hate the sin, love the sinner” is bad.
I absolutely adore this series. I haven't felt like I belonged in a single church for all of my life, so I haven't gone to one in over two years. There's not one I've gone to where I feel accepted or one that would tell me that being supportive of my LGBTQ+ friends is un-Christianlike. I'm scared to keep trying but it makes me so happy to know that somewhere, they do exist. Maybe I'll find them one day.
rebekah is such a wise young girl! loved hearing her talk about what she does to deflect any hate directed towards her, her family, and her community. & her parents are awesome!
This series always covers everything in such an understanding, respectful way and I love it so much! I always feel like I leave with a little more knowledge than I had before.
In traditional Judaism, there are six genders. The most often quoted 'Anti gay' verse in the bible "Man Shall not lay with man" most likely was "Man shall not lay with boy" in the original. The religions that christianity grew up alongside of (Greek, Roman, Norse pagan-) were much more free when it came to sex and gender. Christianity made sure it distanced itself from those religions, and demonized those features.
@@mymyscellany Sorry if I was a bit oversimplistic- I meant to say Classical Judaism, as in directly from their scripture- gender ambiguity is definitely recognized by their laws! They more reference Descriptions of intersex conditions- I can get into it more specifically If you'd like but no, I'm not spreading misinformation.
The six genders are literally just intersex criteria they use to discriminate against people attending their services lol Jews love to gender segregate. Why i'm glad i'm not practicing.
I thought this was going to be a sad video but I was so moved and happy to see u showing us these amazing and beautiful religious communities, I literally cried several times during the video this series is amazing 💚❤💜💙💛
4:49 - 5:11 made me cry. finally, someone gets this. the popular arguement where i'm from is that god gave us our bodies and our genitals and they never make a mistake so it's wrong to change that. i am a firm believer that god does not make mistakes, but provides transgender people with the ability and strength to find their true selves, whether they medically transition or not. cases of gender dysphoria and the desire to not conform to the gender binary is nothing new. it's not a trend. and i hope one day our churches and unaccepting families will finally understand this and have this same reaction, just love and compassion and thankfulness that we have a god who has given some of us the opportunity to recognize a need for change.
I once read a quote from a rabbi about why God would make a person transgender. I don’t remember the exact words, but it was something like “Why did God make grapes and not wine? Why did God make wheat and not bread? So we could share in the act of creation. So too is a transgender person who discovers who they truly are and becomes themself.”
I love hearing of Grace’s and anyone else’s journey of empowerment and finding their truth. As a gay and non-binary person I consider myself lucky that I did not belong in what society and religion portrayed was right, because it allowed me to discover that I am part of God - as I think everyone and everything else is - and thus do not need any man made institutions to tell me what God is. Especially institutions that historically have been used to suppress knowing God: Knowing God is done through self love and acceptance, not through wrongmaking, judgement and instilling self hatred. We are all unique expressions of God and here to do just that: expressing God in the authenticity of who we are. If that wouldn’t be what we are here for we would all look the same and have similar lives. Instead of trying to fit into any perceived standard of ‘rightness’ (according biases of sexuality, race, gender, religion, etc) I think we are all here to come out of all of our closets and fly our own personal freak flags in celebration of acknowledging God in ourselves and others.
God is very real, Jesus is very real and the Holy Spirit is very real. Seek him, let him guide you. We are to believe on the name of Jesus, turn from our sins and follow him. Be saved accept and follow Jesus !
Y’all do have to be realistic. I fully accept god can be who you want him to be, but if you’re Christian, adopt what the scripture says. God is a natural power, like time. What does time look like? A massive clock? That’s ridiculous.
I use to be a christian until I became a theist after I read the entire bible, it was filled with so many contradictions I didn't even know what to belive.
“The way that the patriarchy... has twisted the story is in a direction that does not fit with the historical Jesus.” I’m an atheist, and as an outsider looking on at the activities of the church, this line sums it up entirely.
I still don't consider myself religious for personal reasons but i grew up in an Episcopal church which I will always be proud of because I've found Episcopalian belief is very open and welcoming and that's what I've always been taught from it. My church even hosted many of the funeral and memorials for the victims of Orlando's Pulse shooting
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
I am so glad to see CSJB! I grew up spending many happy days exploring the beautiful grounds, underground tunnels, and secret passages of the convent as my mother worked on restoring and cataloguing the sisters’ collection of vestments. My mother still goes on retreat there each year. These sisters are authentically loving people who represent the best of what faith can do.
that little girl laughing about getting death threats is so sad. a child should never have to have skin that thick. i appreciate what she’s doing and i wish people would just be decent.
For sometime I have had to put god aside to try and be comfortable with who I am. I am just now starting to feel okay and take the steps to reclaim a relationship with god and hopefully the church. Thank you for your reporting grace!!
I never understood the whole trans situation until I "adopted" my eldest grandchild. She lives in the same household as my other 2 and it just hit me like a ton of bricks that I couldn't possibly treat her any different. Her mom's family (supposed Christians) turned their backs on them. I asked if I could "adopt" her if she wanted a Gigi. She and her Mom said yes! So now she isn't left out for birthdays and Festivus. I do the same for all 3 and they all call me the same thing. How can people be so cruel to a child? When I don't say anything people assume she looks like me.
@@emminet My mom is her "greatgrandma''". She doesn't get it at all but loves all kids so she goes along happily much to my sister the born-again's dismay.
Grace you nailed it when you spoke about how you couldn’t have a personal relationship with God until you started being true to yourself. To have a relationship with God we need to be honest - with Him and with ourselves. When we try to hide who we are or force ourselves into a box that was never meant for us we can never grow as Christians. Also although I refer to God as “Him” for simplicity I’ve always been a firm believer that God incorporates both male and female qualities. I’ve always believed that every relationship we can have here on earth teaches us something of God’s nature. Whether it’s father, mother, teacher, friend, lover, all of these relationships we experience here on earth teach us more about God.
I'm dont believe in god but the existence of these people restore my faith in humanity . I was raised as an orthodox Christian and one think i learned was that jesus taught love . These people are real christians.
Grace, I just discovered your amazing series on youtube. You are the most amazing person. My cousins and I grew up in an ultra born again family. Most of us turned against it in our teens as we soon realized we could think for ourselves and see other points of view. For me that was being born again. My cousin is a lesbian and to this day she is unable to be open about it to her Mom. She is a wonderful caring person who has to live a secret life even as we approach 60! We love our parents but know we can't live by their ignorance. We have to understand that was their upbringing and we just can't change their point of view!
THIS👏🏾WAS👏🏾PROFOUND 👏🏾 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Honestly, I think if I grew up around these types of people, this awe inspiring view of GOD, I probably NEVER would have left the Church!!! I LOVE the sense of COMMUNITY that Church provides, but if all that community preaches is HATE, (even if that hate is tied up with a pretty bow 😑) if all they preach is non-acceptance, then I want NOTHING to do with it!! I became a PAGAN for those reasons. Because I found that LOVE and ACCEPTANCE in the Pagan community and NOTHING in my Church community, I left it when I was young, and I NEVER looked back...... until NOW 😱😱😱😱😱 So thank you AGAIN, Grace, for another beautiful, impeccably presented, INSPIRATIONAL video!!!! 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄😻😻😻😻😻❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
As a Jew, let me fuckin’ tell you real quick, the English translation of the Bible changes EVERYTHING. When you put hebrew through Greek through English, it’s like a shitty game of telephone. There’s nothing wrong with the Christian Bible per say, I’m just saying that it is an entirely different book in like six different ways then it is in the Hebrew.
@strxberrirants That's because the translations are terrible. There aren't always translations for old Hebrew words. The fact that Hebrew language also resorts to male if it's a plural word for "children" is exactly why the english translation insists that man cannot lie with man, instead of what it's actually meant to be, which is "DON"T RAPE CHILDREN". I really hate how this turns into a full agenda for weird Chistian people with a hate problem.
strxberrirants Yes they did. Back then they didn’t have a name for it, today we do that’s why the word is in the new translations. Romans 1 is clearly speaking of homosexuality. I believe the LGBTQ+ should be able to attend any church they want to, but the church shouldn’t have to compromise their faith to do that. And just because we disagree don’t mean we hate the LGBTQ+ community. Not every Christian is at the Gay Parades promoting hate.
This is making me consider god again for the first time since I was 7. When I realized that church was a place that isolated me from love and acceptance, I turned my back and remained spiritual in my own way. I know personally that I was born this way and that it is genetic, and if God is real they did this intentionally. And maybe to reveal who was truly loving and who actually had acceptance in their heart?
I remember being young in Sunday School class and asking how if King James translated the Bible, how can we be sure he did it right? And after years of studying history to find out King James had a male lover, and coming to terms with my own sexuality in a church that condemns people who are LGBTQ, I’ve realized we don’t truly know what the Bible definitely says and means, and that Christian doctrine has evolved primarily through the thoughts of man in regards to some other man’s idea of the meaning of God’s word. So definitely, I think Christians should read the Bible with their own interpretations in mind and really study other beliefs and doctrines to get the bigger picture. Just like the chaplain said here, she’s learning more about God but talking to people because we are in the image of God, and we are taught that God is all knowing and perfect. How, then, can we said God was wrong in making someone gay or transgender, or that people are wrong for identifying as LGBTQ because it’s against the laws God set? I just really appreciate all the work Grace is doing in really questioning a lot of the hurtful and hateful doctrine of the church, and I hope her study really opens some eyes.
I have to say I have been watching your videos for a while now, but when Rebekah, because she has such an amazing family structure, answered that she is not bothered by strangers on the internet... Gosh! It brought me to tears!!! It just proves that despite all the crap we see online, human race might have a chance! I wanted to give 10 million likes on this video!!!!
I’m not Christian, I’m pagan, but having said that, I was raised in the Anglican Church. I am also trans and panromantic. I am throughly enjoying these videos. It makes me very happy to see such a warm and welcoming Christian community. Even though I am not Christian you have presented information in this video which has helped me question not only my understanding of Christianity, which even though I don’t follow I like to learn about anyway, but also my own faith as well, which I think, when I work out the answers to some of the questions you’ve raised, will help me gain a deeper understanding and connection with my own faith, which I think is wonderful. Not to mention, there are things in here that I think anyone can learn from, irrespect of their personal faith, to help build a deeper understanding of their own beliefs, which if embraced, can help them develop deeper understandings, and consequently gain a stronger connection to their faith. I love videos that do this, and you most certainly have. Keep up the good work.
No that is the God you have created for yourself, the God of the bible calls all sinners to repent and turn to Jesus for forgiveness of sins. you do not get to redefine Christianity.
@@roxannerose6516 there have been many misconceptions and mistranslations in the bible though, as it has been translated so many times that parts can contradict each other in different versions and say things that weren’t from the beginning. ex: a verse (which i’m not positive of currently, i know it’s there but i can’t remember the original verse) originally said, or has been rumored to say: “a man should not lie with a child”, but in current translations, the verse reads: “a man should not lie with a man”. (many other verses are like this but this is my main example.)
Always reminded of Lewis Black and his joke reminding Christians that it’s “not your book”. Meaning that the old testament is an originally a Jewish religious text. All of these books were translated from Aramaic, which I can only imagine means there are a few mistranslations. For instance did you know that one of the 10 Commandments is actually “thou shalt not murder” not, “thou shalt not kill”? That’s a pretty significant difference for anyone who is a soldier or has killed in self defense. And that’s one sentence.
I got to see Rebekah Bruesehoff share her testimony at the ELCA Churchwide Assembly in Houston in 2018. My younger brother recently came out as trans several months ago and the few within my congregation who our family has told so far (for name changes for a graduation ceremony) have been affirming of his newfound identity and committed to make him feel welcome and loved, including our choir director who we're very thankful for. Although I consider myself Agnostic at the moment, I personally identify with my Lutheran heritage and community and I'm more than happy to see the ELCA and other mainline protestant denominations become more accepting, welcoming, and affirming of LGBT+ individuals and their identities, because Queer Christians need a space where they can feel loved, accepted, and spiritually fulfilled. I enjoy your videos as always, people like you make all the difference!
This was so lovely to watch, and has made me really re-think my approach to Christianity, and my fear of churches etc for fear of rejection. However, now I’m going to look up local churches who do support the LGBTQ 🏳️🌈 community. And maybe attend. So thank you (:
same here. used to be in the Catholic Church (longstanding family tradition) but was sort of blacklisted for being LGBT+. my family doesn't know I'm LGBT+ yet but from how they react to LGBT+ issues, I don't ever want to come out to them. Our town is really small so I really am looking for an LGBT+ friendly church
@@joshuapotter9575 Please take the time think on your decision. The God that you serve is not the God that I serve. "I am the lord thy God, thou shalt not have no other Gods before me"
i just want to say that this series is amazing as someone who had made the decision to leave my church and organised religion because i don’t agree with the message they are sharing it is truely uplifting to watch these videos and it really reassures my faith so thank you for making these
I grew up in the Polish roman catholic church; it was divisive, judgmental, sexist, misogynistic etc. It took me years to understand why I was so uncomfortable with it and why I always felt so outside of it and the groups within it (and why I was often ostracized by other members of the church. Sorry for being a crazy child, mom). I may be outside of any faith now but wow are these videos beautifully put together and so intriguing. I'm very excited to be here for this part of Grace's career and hope you continue in documentary film-making; the way you approach situations and interviews is absolutely the way I wish the wider world approached human interaction.
Thank you so much for creating these videos. It’s often hard to find beautiful stories like these in the Christian world. So thank you for shining light onto such an important topic
Have you ever felt your identity in conflict with your faith? Share your experiences with us below!
I'm currently not very religious because I'm conflicted/hurt about how I can be a Christian but also not be reprimanded for who I love (I'm a cis gender lesbian💕). Any tips/suggestions on how to combat it???🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
@@staryariarts look up Angle and Nicole on RUclips they have good suggestions
Yes i felt like the transgender community was a walking target for the religious right and those who liked to pile on the hate and hurtful rhetoric of there Bible interpretations . So now i'm older so more prone to shrugging things off or because i found a church that leads by example. It is the latter answer.
Not necessarily my identity, but my beliefs conflict with faith. I’ve always been very accepting of LGBTQ+ identities, and it kills me to see those identities not deemed acceptable in the church. For that and many more reasons, I refuse to got to Church.
I’m a mix of Wiccan , Christian and Buddhist so all three gods might be a little mad at me lol
Speaking as a senior citizen ( no boomer comments please), I appreciate this channel. Grace is a perfect name for you, intelligent, curious, excellent critical thinking skills, writer and seeker and beautiful 🕊.
Lovely I’o Thank you for leaving such a lovely and thoughtful message here! 💕
You pass the vibe check 😎
Heidi Carter “no boomer comments please) I found that funny ps. a boomer is more of a mindset and not about how old you are -
for all the people who say ok boomer to every senior lol
you’re great
@@aishamaryam750 this is so right
“We only know God because we know each other.” yes I will forever stan Ms. Jackie!!
Teresa Urmatam She’s incredible.
Her sermons are incredible. Watch her videos online or visit Middle Collegiate .
I myself am not religious, however that line stood out to me. Ms Jackie is a very powerful woman!
Please quote that in scripture.
I will literally cry and break down if I ever get to talk to someone that accepting and open-minded
I really appreciate this series. Grace is an incredible journalist.
+simone So glad you're into it! We couldn't agree more! :)
SAME! I LOVE Grace. She's such a fantastic journalist and interviewer. I hope she has a long career I can follow in documentary films.
I know me to
Yes!!
I just discovered her today and have been on a binge of her work. Damn, so much good information that I am loving!!!
as a teenage lesbian woman who grew up in an anti lgbtqa+ church, this made me rethink everything that I was taught to hate about myself....maybe God really does love me.
Heaven Culver he does ❤️
He really does ❤️❤️❤️
he absolutely does! ❤❤❤❤❤
Heaven Culver I knew I was bisexual by the time I was around 14 or so . I’m 20 now and since then I left the church and religion as a whole for the same reasons and many more. I was repulsed with myself and hated the fact that I couldn’t control who I’m attracted to bc of the faith I had . I think leaving the religion gave me the peace and clarity that I found within myself that I always needed. Even tho I was a completely normal teen that loved hanging out with my friends all the time ,social media ,the office and friends , sports ,etc , you would’ve never thought I’d literally rip my hair out and hit myself in the face then cry myself to sleep over my sexuality and faith . Now I’m more peaceful then ever knowing that it’s ok to be selfish and by that I mean it’s ok to be exactly who you were meant to be unapologetically . With all that being said some people are the opposite and found peace ,still being comfortable with themselves in the church bc they feel loved unconditionally and I think that’s amazing . Whatever path you choose, just know that at the end of the day you will always have the ability to be at peace and love yourself and no god or person can ever take that away 💕
O believe me... He does!! ❤️❤️🤟🏼🏳️🌈
I don’t think angelic/celestial/divine beings have a gender.
Mackenzie McGee same!
Mackenzie McGee I believe so too. They don’t need their parts to reproduce , like us humans do. (Just my beliefs) I also believe our genitals don’t define our souls.
Actually they do, they're all male. There are no female angels. The Bible actually says when one becomes born again they become a son of God, including women. Now obviously they are still a "daughter" of God or sister, but they are also a son. Even when someone gets their glorified body in Heaven, they'll all be male, again including women. And it's not a sexist thing, that's just the way God did it.
Yea it makes sense that way. Theyre so magnificent that they dont even need it.
@@GrowingWarrior remember what the scholar said in the video about god's pronouns? Possibly the same.
As a trans person who struggles to find a place in the church, this was so uplifting. It makes me happy to see Christians out there loving people for who they are. :)
@@Mamaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Why are you even here. I did everything the church "recommends". It only brought pain and despair. Sometimes it's best to listen to others experience. Instead most would rather take the easy route and read a single verse. Btw, I am happy with myself. No more depression, anxiety, or suicidal thoughts. I'm thriving socially and physically. 10 years of "church recommended cures" never brought a second of that. Have a blessed day ;p
@J M Don't listen to them. You have your journey that you are living and that is 100% valid and you will always have a place as God's beloved child, regardless of gender. You do you.
@@laurenholland8053 Thank you! yeah i dont listen. people like that will never believe some one like me is happy even if its staring them in the face. they have a lot of issues they project lol.
You're doing wonderful, stay true to yourself, I'm glad you're living your life the way you choose to :)
You are loved, you are worthy and you are wonderful!
I’m a trans Christian and hearing all these beautiful affirming interpretations of faith gives me so much strength
Trans Christians don't exist. Self deceived men and women can be religious.
jane Patton hating people for who they are is NOT christianity dude. plain and simple.
@@i-wasbored7187 believing the lies of the enemy is NOT Christianity good sir. It's wickedness plain and simple.
*(2 Thessalonians **2:11**-12)*
For this very reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. So that all will be condemned who have not believed the Truth but have delighted in wickedness.
Why should you perish? REPENT AND LIVE!
@@janepatton8100 The fact that you glossed over "hating people for who they are isn't christianity" and kept going... you do realize love thy neighbor is in the bible too, right? also, the fact that God is the almighty judge. and that he's compassionate and kind and loving. all those things that you're conveniently glossing over.
I-Was Bored its not hating, he was stating an opinion.
"We only know God, because we know each other."
Wow. That whole conversation gave me goosebumps. Love it.
Psalm 50:21
we know god because god reveals it.
other than that must be fake, ain't it?
Same
Being a transgender Christian wouldn’t work because if you believe in God but also believe that you were born as the wrong sex, then you’re technically accusing God of making a mistake by making you the way you’re born, and that goes against the saying that God never makes mistakes.
Any comments?
I used to care a lot about what religion people identify themselves with because I was an internet Atheist. now that I'm no longer a cringey teenage anti-theist, I couldn't care less what religion someone associates with as long as they respect other people's lives and identity. there are atheist who I wouldn't want on my side becuase they are hateful towards women and minorities. I'd rather have an open-minded religious person than a bigoted atheist on my side.
@A Girl Has No Name well I kind of started using it myself, though I'm sure others may have used it too. to me it just refers to the extremely online atheist community (mostly on youtube) that used to spend a ridiculous amount of time shitting on Christians, they eventually started to move toward "destroying" feminist and "SJWs"--basically anyone who questions the current race/gender/religious hierarchy
I think you’re beautiful! I don’t need to see you’re face or how you look to know this. By the way Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
@@averytruffelmen6230 humm, aren't the Christian's the ones trying to do that?
women are not a minority you self indulgent prick.
Hey hey. I think I'm probably a cringey internet atheist, but it's something that comes from experience with religion. The reason I care how religious people behave is that there are lots of them. Religion ostensibly makes my life worse, and it makes the lives of people who I care about worse. I spend time thinking about it because it's a threat to my desire to live my life the way I want to. I have a lot of empathy and respect for the religious people in my life, and religious people in general. But I wish people weren't religious. I wish I could explain why homophobia is irrational to someone, and not have them retreat to the statement "it's against my faith". I wish the men who I live with didn't believe I was inherently inferior to them because that's how God made us (they are able to back that up with Scripture). I don't force atheism on anyone, but I also can't claim to respect religion, I'd be lying. I'm glad you've found peace though.
Anyway, have a good new year.
As a seminarian, I am so blessed by your work on this channel! The church is called to be a refuge from the world, not add to the pain. So many non-binary, non-cis, non-hetero people feel like they don't have a church home. Everyone is so aware of the section of Christianity that condemns. Thank you for beginning to expose the open, loving arms of Christ that do exist! May we be less difficult to find!
+hollywebster This comment made our day! Thank you for taking the time to watch & for leaving a thoughtful comment!
Colossians 3:5 Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality
That goes for all of us......not just the trans community.
@@kcp2967
Matthew 22: 36Master, which is the great commandment in the law.
37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
John 12:47 (KJV)
And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
I'm not smart enough to understand how God formed you or me. Nor do I see the hearts we have...only he can do that... I would encourage you to spend more time showing love to your fellow brothers and sisters. I've also included a little biology article that I recently stumbled across and found quite educational.
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@@bgreaud I don't disagree with you, but we all have to learn to overcome sin.
@@kcp2967 yes, but that way is more likely to hurt or kill someone. Think about it...when was the last time you saw people being held accountable for being liars to the same extreme.
"We lost lots of people, we lost thousands of dollars, and it was such a good move."
Good on this guy for having the right priorities!!
As soon as he said that all I thought was "that's what having faith looks like."
@@violinplayer101 Amen!
When I realized I was bi, I thought I had to choose between my religion and my sexuality. It's been a wild ride learning that I can do both (pun intended!). Thank you for this video! It's incredibly encouraging and impactful to learn more about other people who support or are LGBTQ+ in the Church. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one and it means a lot to see that I'm not.
I happen to be gay and support individuals. I don't support LGBTQ just as I don't support the Religious Right. When can we as a society champion people as individuals rather than judge or accept them based on their group identities and memberships. I surely hope that God sees me as a individual and calls me by my name rather than as that gay guy.
God bless you, Hannah
@니크 I support individual religious rights, i don't support the Religious Right. There is a huge difference. Rights should be given to individuals not to groups identity groups.
The beauty of Gods love for us is that while we were yet sinning and awful and wanted nothing to do with Him, Christ died for us (Romans 5:8). We should never question Gods love for us if He would do something like die for His enemies (Romans 5:10). However, God still calls all of us to repent of certain things and the Bible does say this is a sin even if RUclipsrs are saying it isn’t. The only reason I’m saying this to you isn’t so I can be mean and tear you down, but entirely because I know hell is a real reality and I would never want you to go there. It is not simply that you are gay and unforgivable, but the Bible says when we do not repent it is a sign we were never truly saved, no matter what the sin is. Again, I know I will sound like a jerk and I hope you know with all sincerity that was not my intent. Rather it was from fear and love even if that isn’t how it seems. Even if we change the Bible to fit with what we want, God still gave us what He is ultimately going to judge by. We shouldn’t let people change it to make people more comfortable and ultimately damn them because they’re too afraid to say what the Bible actually says.
Please be careful ,we are warned about false teachers!
Ghosts are real and can enter your dreams/thoughts.....do not be afraid but "hold every thought captive as if it's not your own"
Refrain from your fleshy desires (as hard as that is) keep reading the bible and searching for the truth.
immediately started crying at "we only know God because we know each other"; the whole line of conversation having to do with how we know God more by knowing one another touched me so deeply and resonated so strongly.
Other detrans of ftm pls listen.
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That woman that calls herself a Catholic feminist is my idol. I love my faith, and I am also very feminist. I've always thought I can still be Catholic even though I don't agree with everything the church stands for. My specific church community is loving, accepting, and empowering.
DC Infinity I love this! Couldn’t agree more!
You should check out Women’s Alliance for Theology and Ethics and Ritual. ( WATER for short). It was founded by Catholic feminists.
I wish my Catholic community was like this. My God-Mother made me to go confession to confess and ask the priest what he thought of my bisexuality and I left crying. It was horrible. I love Jesus and God and a lot of the Catholic things but I can’t get aboard with this anti-lgbt anti pro choice type of things, and always made to feel like I was a bad catholic because of it
We do not hate trans people for they are still human and deserve to feel loved. we just don’t support their actions. Love the sinner, hate the sin. The Catholic Faith is truly a really beautiful thing if only you take the time to learn what it’s all about :)
GemzMyLens how is being trans a sin. There’s absolutely nothing in the Bible that supports that. Maybe God creates people to be trans. Maybe it’s not a mistake. God works in mysterious ways.
How cool is it to walk around, meet new people, and say 'I am Grace.' ... that has depth (and beauty) to it.
Being a transgender doesn’t define the person you are,it doesn’t make you a bad person and people should accept that
Kawaii 4ever54 amen! And someone’s gender identity should have no effect on how people treat them!
I agree with what you said, and I'm not a grammar nazi, but 'transgender' is a verb, not a noun, so no one is "transgendered" they are simply 'transgender'. It also means that someone is not "a transgender", someone just is transgender.
Hunter Ellis this is why I should really study for my English tests
We are all bad. In the Bible it says that no one is good except the Lord. Jesus himself said it. “And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.”
(Mark 10:18)! Our standards of good are very low. If we are good, we are in no need of a savior. We all fall short, which is why we need Jesus, without him, without a real relationship with him, we won’t have eternity with the Father.
@@BlessedwithChristt amen
I love watching state of grace. It inspired me to come out as a lesbian and made me confident in my relationship with god.
+jacquelineolivia What wonderfully inspirational comment to hear! Thank you for being so brave and for sharing with us!
Oh my God, I LOVE Paula!
I mean that comment at 11:53 "If there's anything Jesus *did*, it was to hold space for people in the margins." What a fantastic assessment of Jesus' ministry.
One thing that always bothered me when I was a churchgoer was the attitude that only the people *at* church were worthy and they were worthy because they *went* to church. Like, how Pharasutical.
And casually deadnaming herself? That's powerful. Not that I would encourage anybody to dead name a trans person because it can be horribly hurtful, but you could tell she was beyond that life. She could claim the person she was and still love the person she is. That's a big healing step for anybody.
"the first women and person of colour to hold her position" *runs from Scotland to America to high five her and the man before her. Then hugs everyone goes back to Scotland sleeps*
I love this. So recently a High Court Judge in India recently said in a judgment, "Ignorance is not a justification for discrimination" furthering the cause of LGBTQIA+ community in India.
"We only know God because we know each other".. wow. I am not even a Christian but this phrase touched me and I had tears in my eyes. I was bawling my eyes out for a few minutes after that. I'm not saying that I suddenly have faith in God but I feel deeply love by the universe right now. And I want to say, if someone reads this, no mather who you are, you deserve love and I love you all.
Thank you for this comment 💖
Pastor Jackie is the religious leader I have been craving since the day my uncle, a Presbyterian minister, told me to be grateful for my father’s abuse.
A few years ago, I use to attend a youth group that said they welcome all and do not care for sexuality and what your gender was. I loved that idea and had so much fun within the group . . . Until I came out to them in a conversation of getting to know another. I am lesbian, and my girlfriend actually use to go to the group. That exact night when we were doing our learning section. The leader said "We are going to talk about something a bit different tonight." Can you take a guess on what the subject was?
It was on how being gay was a sin and we aren't allowed to be like this, but continued that statement with a follow up of "But God loves all. Though gay is a very bad sin."
Now this whole learning section went deeper into how it was bad to like the same sex or even be trans, but I really don't remember because how angered I was. I excused myself and left to the bathroom. I was very upset and was left in the bathroom crying whilst angry. I stayed till it was time to leave, which I then told the leader of the group "I'm never coming back here. You have lost my trust. I thought this group was perfectly fine with LGBTQ Community???" I was crying as I was saying this all, because that was the first place I had ever felt welcomed and they never talked about that subject UNTIL I brought up my sexuality. Idfk.
I grew up being told it was bad and I even knew that from the start for how much my grandma had said it was a sin. Even with being told that, I still somehow ended up liking women. Not only just that, but I liked then since a young age. I have still yet to tell my grandmother that I am a lesbian, but I am very scared because she always loved me and I have always loved her . . . I just don't know how she will react when I tell her the truth.
This was a sort of little rant because I have never really told anyone besides my mom who found out about my relationship on accident when it slipped out from my dumb mouth, but she accepted me whole. I will always love my mom for being supportive. ♡
I want to one day attend a church, maybe, that can accept the community so I do not fear what I say to them or how I behave. If anyone understands. There are just none of those places that are safe like that where I have lived before.
DorKanKan118 I hope that you can do what you want and that your grandmother accepts you!
i am so sorry that you had to go through that- i hope that you can grow while accepting who you are, your sexuality, and your religion; God bless
I have a lesbian female pastor. That’s something I’m happy to say.
OMG that's great
Where are y’all getting these female pastors 😭 I’ve never seen one irl
Me too! She is awesome!!
I have had one at a church I attend as well; current pastor is a married gay guy. I’m in Canada, where gay marriage is legal and has been for years.
Then your “pastor” is lost.
Thank you for showing us Christians how to be better and do better to be inclusive and welcome people of all genders and those who live differently than us. It is very moving and very emotional to me ❤️ God Bless
+inezaaurora Thank you for leaving this lovely comment!
Refinery29 you are truly playing a big part in shaping me as a human being and helping me be able to make a difference in our Christian communities. Thank you 👏🏽👏🏽
+inezeaurora What a wonderful compliment! That means so much to us. Thank you for being a part of the R29 fam!
The woman with dreads is drop dead gorgeous! -Inspirational
When that pastor said people walked out because he said they were LGBTQIA affirming, it hit me in the feels. I walked out of church when they said some anti LGBTQIA stuff. Cause I'm not about that...
One thing that drew me to becoming a Quaker were the openness to the LGBTQ+ community and the lack of a religious leader.
I love Grace's videos!
I find that the Quaker and especially sihk religions, as well as some other minority religions, are truly about compassion. Sihkism spreads compassion to non human animals as well, as do some others. The religions that truly focus on the main parts their holy books teach about love and compassion, and not the every tiny detail in the book, are often the ones with the most kind and nonjudgemental people.
@@hunterellis9319 not surprisingly, I've gotten along well with every Sikh I've met
@Frederick Delius Legacy - And Far Beyond not a lot but yes!
Love to see a Quaker!
Matthew 22:39 says “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Meaning that you should love others just as much as you love yourself. No matter if another person is gay, trans or any other things in the LGBTQ+ community. I don’t really get why people like to be transphobic, homophobic or any other phobic that’s against LGBTQ, because we are all sinners. We have all fell from the hand of God. So what makes LGBTQ+ people any different from us? We are all human living on this Earth. It’s time that we take this barriers that we put above ourselves and break them down.
Ah! But if you are saved, how can you sin? Paul makes this point repeatedly. Being saved means we _can do_ ANYTHING but we _should do_ those things that build up others.
Many Christians have been led astray by a tiny, insidious lie: Jesus yolk is light but must be weighed down with those Mosaic laws men have decided we must follow.
@@r-platt Exactly. The Jewish Law of the old testament is indeed divinely inspired and the word of God, but also it is the interpretation that an antiquated society held within the context of their own communities and beliefs. God is not static, God is ever changing and ever creating. If we aspire to be like God, we must not hold on to ancient customs as though they're infallible. Were these laws not recorded by men? After all, many of those who doubted Jesus and denied his divinity were those who upheld these Mosaic laws to a fault. We must be like Jesus, we must love one another.
@@BonejanglesTV Very well stated.
Some would pointlessly argue semantics: that God inspired those authors to write exactly what He wanted.
Regardless the old laws are fulfilled.
That begs 2 questions:
1. What sin do trans people commit in seeking a healthy mind?
2. Does that make homosexual acts acceptable? Sure, people quote Paul's opinions, but people ignore most of those opinions - such as women having long hair. It seems hypocritical to then say, "Ah, but we will enforce this 1 rule."
I went to a non-denominational church. They accepted me as I am.
In the end, God understands my choice. And I'm happy the church did too
God loves you, but it doesn’t mean he accepts this
I am an atheist, but Grace, you are a bright light in the universe. Thank you for everything you do.
I am so proud of the human race sometimes. Watching state of grace, has brought me back to feeling that love for people again.
Thank you for creating this video. It is hard to be a part of a Christian community that doesn’t discuss LGBTQIA+ issues. Like you said in the video, the effort that these people are taking to raise awareness and create an inclusive space is truly the love of Jesus!
I saw a comment somewhere that said:
"What is in the Bible isn't how God describes himself. It's how we describe God."
Watching Grace’s videos and god is grey making me want to believe in Jesus despite the pain religion has caused me
@salvador trejo you can kindly shut up
@salvador trejo right on
Grace, you make the Internet and the world a better place. Everyone should see this, especially everyone who calls themselves Christian. God bless you! Xxx
This is fantastic!!! I was in big denile, I was condemning to the LGBT community and being myself behind closed doors. During one of my many prayers of "God take these feelings away", God asked me if I would praise Him for them, I said yes and did that for about a month. About a month later I was praying the same prayer again, and God said "Ok now embrace it and transition", so I obeyed God and it was like a breath of fresh air, and a weight lifted off me. my big sin was living to peoples vision of me and not of who I truly am.I asked God where does this get affirmed in His word, God directed me to Samuel, Samuel is at Jesse's to anoint a new King, he messes up many times. Then God says to him, "man judges by the outside, but He looks at the heart", it is in our heart and soul where we truly are not between our legs. You also talked of how the church doesn't reflect Jesus. I've seen this not only in the LGBT community but also with people who are different or make us uncomfortable.It hurts me when I see people turning from God who loves us so immensely to other things. One young trans girl turned to Satanism because she saw more love there, another trans woman turned to Buddhism. Another woman who just had a lot of tattoos just became an atheist because she couldn't see God anywhere. To me it seems like some Christians are blind or deaf because Jesus said " Do to others as you would have them do to you, love your neighbor as yourself, and what you have done to the least of these you did to Me."
Wow this girl is more emotionally mature than like 98% of the internet. Love what happens when children are loved correctly
Was looking for this comment - so well said!
I am an atheist but this is so nice.
So basically, God uses they/them pronouns :)
exactly!!!!!
Yes god don’t have a gender god isn’t human
noice :)
that makes God a queer icon
M G yes
I have never once been able to watch one of your videos without crying when you talk to the Allies
Rose Lichtman OMG, that’s so sweet! Thank you for being here!!
The Episcopal Church is like the Hufflepuffs. We take everyone left out by everyone else! (Let's not bring up J.K. Rowling please...)
J K Rowling is a hero amongst peasants
Catholic school has taught me that the church does not teach unconditional love. This video explains why.
same I go to catholic school right know and grace’s whole series has taught me how conditional the Catholic Church’s love is
Mary Gormly Glad I’m not the only one.
J.J Abrams Trust me, you don’t wanna be any religion no matter what your identity. Atheist people tend to respect human dignity better than religious people.
We do not hate trans people for they are still human and deserve to feel loved. we just don’t support their actions. Love the sinner, hate the sin. The Catholic Faith is truly a really beautiful thing if only you take the time to learn about it from actual good sources :)
GemzMyLens I strongly disagree that it’s beautiful. Why does the Church hate the actions so much? And from what I heard on websites, the line “hate the sin, love the sinner” is bad.
I absolutely adore this series. I haven't felt like I belonged in a single church for all of my life, so I haven't gone to one in over two years. There's not one I've gone to where I feel accepted or one that would tell me that being supportive of my LGBTQ+ friends is un-Christianlike. I'm scared to keep trying but it makes me so happy to know that somewhere, they do exist. Maybe I'll find them one day.
Thank you. I've never heard a Christian say that realizing you are trans is becoming aware of who you truly are. Thank you so much.
rebekah is such a wise young girl! loved hearing her talk about what she does to deflect any hate directed towards her, her family, and her community. & her parents are awesome!
The fact that the pastor kept bringing up the loss of money says a lot about that churches overall mission.
This series always covers everything in such an understanding, respectful way and I love it so much! I always feel like I leave with a little more knowledge than I had before.
„We only know God, because we know each other.“ WOW, what a great sentence, what a truth! (Grace, I love your videos!)
That little girl is the best. "Do I look like the Devil Incarnate?"
Bless her soul.
The nun did a video on buzzfeed. She’s amazing
In traditional Judaism, there are six genders. The most often quoted 'Anti gay' verse in the bible "Man Shall not lay with man" most likely was "Man shall not lay with boy" in the original.
The religions that christianity grew up alongside of (Greek, Roman, Norse pagan-) were much more free when it came to sex and gender. Christianity made sure it distanced itself from those religions, and demonized those features.
This is literally just misinformation to my knowledge. What source says there's six genders in traditional Judaism? Basically positive that is false
@@mymyscellany Sorry if I was a bit oversimplistic- I meant to say Classical Judaism, as in directly from their scripture- gender ambiguity is definitely recognized by their laws! They more reference Descriptions of intersex conditions- I can get into it more specifically If you'd like but no, I'm not spreading misinformation.
@@twiddlemc9993 Yeah I'd like to see evidence to support that claim.
The six genders are literally just intersex criteria they use to discriminate against people attending their services lol Jews love to gender segregate. Why i'm glad i'm not practicing.
As a straight woman, I think I got a crush on Grace
Me to
*laughs in pansexual*
I also find myself attractive to her
you ain`t straight
I believe that “god” is genderless. Although he holds both what we understand as feminine and masculine qualities.
God is agender & prefers he/him pronouns /hj
I thought this was going to be a sad video but I was so moved and happy to see u showing us these amazing and beautiful religious communities, I literally cried several times during the video this series is amazing 💚❤💜💙💛
4:49 - 5:11 made me cry. finally, someone gets this.
the popular arguement where i'm from is that god gave us our bodies and our genitals and they never make a mistake so it's wrong to change that. i am a firm believer that god does not make mistakes, but provides transgender people with the ability and strength to find their true selves, whether they medically transition or not. cases of gender dysphoria and the desire to not conform to the gender binary is nothing new. it's not a trend. and i hope one day our churches and unaccepting families will finally understand this and have this same reaction, just love and compassion and thankfulness that we have a god who has given some of us the opportunity to recognize a need for change.
I once read a quote from a rabbi about why God would make a person transgender. I don’t remember the exact words, but it was something like “Why did God make grapes and not wine? Why did God make wheat and not bread? So we could share in the act of creation. So too is a transgender person who discovers who they truly are and becomes themself.”
“Not everyone who says lord lord will inherit the kingdom of heaven”- Jesus
I think I’ll stand beside you in this statement.
AMENNNN
The people say: "I was born this way" but Jesus say: "you most born AGAIN"
I love hearing of Grace’s and anyone else’s journey of empowerment and finding their truth. As a gay and non-binary person I consider myself lucky that I did not belong in what society and religion portrayed was right, because it allowed me to discover that I am part of God - as I think everyone and everything else is - and thus do not need any man made institutions to tell me what God is. Especially institutions that historically have been used to suppress knowing God: Knowing God is done through self love and acceptance, not through wrongmaking, judgement and instilling self hatred. We are all unique expressions of God and here to do just that: expressing God in the authenticity of who we are. If that wouldn’t be what we are here for we would all look the same and have similar lives. Instead of trying to fit into any perceived standard of ‘rightness’ (according biases of sexuality, race, gender, religion, etc) I think we are all here to come out of all of our closets and fly our own personal freak flags in celebration of acknowledging God in ourselves and others.
I am so glad they made this video because I felt I was thinking I was giving up my faith to God but being trans. Now I realize the truth
The truth is in the bible, not this video.
@Krista Star well if your not going to follow an "unscientific" book then don't be a Christian. A church is built off the bible aka the word of God.
I’m so happy for you!!!
Have you asked God directly ?
Awwh you can see the compassion in the black pastors eyes. That is real.
Know what? I hope if god is real, he is a giant owl on a cloud. That sounds sick as hell.
God is very real, Jesus is very real and the Holy Spirit is very real. Seek him, let him guide you. We are to believe on the name of Jesus, turn from our sins and follow him. Be saved accept and follow Jesus !
I was just thinking that. A rainbow owl
Y’all do have to be realistic. I fully accept god can be who you want him to be, but if you’re Christian, adopt what the scripture says. God is a natural power, like time. What does time look like? A massive clock? That’s ridiculous.
I use to be a christian until I became a theist after I read the entire bible, it was filled with so many contradictions I didn't even know what to belive.
@@azuresky4984 there are a lot of flaws made by people in the Bible, there is an answer to nearly all of the contradictions though
“The way that the patriarchy... has twisted the story is in a direction that does not fit with the historical Jesus.”
I’m an atheist, and as an outsider looking on at the activities of the church, this line sums it up entirely.
I still don't consider myself religious for personal reasons but i grew up in an Episcopal church which I will always be proud of because I've found Episcopalian belief is very open and welcoming and that's what I've always been taught from it. My church even hosted many of the funeral and memorials for the victims of Orlando's Pulse shooting
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
Preach preach preach. These are the days when people who don’t understand truth will just choose to create their own.
Exactly. Pastors are trying to spread false prophesy. God made it explicit that following your flesh can lead you to hell
Citing Paul? Nice to know I can completely disregard everything you say then lol.
@@PhoenixFireKMS why
Deceiving themselves... this is why we have to be reborn to see the Kingdom..John 3:3. and receive the Holy Spirit.
I am so glad to see CSJB! I grew up spending many happy days exploring the beautiful grounds, underground tunnels, and secret passages of the convent as my mother worked on restoring and cataloguing the sisters’ collection of vestments. My mother still goes on retreat there each year. These sisters are authentically loving people who represent the best of what faith can do.
I’m an atheist but I love to watch these videos, it’s super interesting to learn about people who have different beliefs than you.
that little girl laughing about getting death threats is so sad. a child should never have to have skin that thick. i appreciate what she’s doing and i wish people would just be decent.
Thank you for continuing to shine the light of knowledge in the sometimes dark moments of our times.
For sometime I have had to put god aside to try and be comfortable with who I am. I am just now starting to feel okay and take the steps to reclaim a relationship with god and hopefully the church. Thank you for your reporting grace!!
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I really appreciated this PSA 😂
I love, love, love this. Love what the protestant pastor said about knowing God by knowing each other.
I never understood the whole trans situation until I "adopted" my eldest grandchild. She lives in the same household as my other 2 and it just hit me like a ton of bricks that I couldn't possibly treat her any different. Her mom's family (supposed Christians) turned their backs on them. I asked if I could "adopt" her if she wanted a Gigi. She and her Mom said yes! So now she isn't left out for birthdays and Festivus. I do the same for all 3 and they all call me the same thing. How can people be so cruel to a child? When I don't say anything people assume she looks like me.
This is just so amazing of you, thank you for making sure your grandchild has a life full of love and acceptance.
@@emminet My mom is her "greatgrandma''". She doesn't get it at all but loves all kids so she goes along happily much to my sister the born-again's dismay.
Grace you nailed it when you spoke about how you couldn’t have a personal relationship with God until you started being true to yourself. To have a relationship with God we need to be honest - with Him and with ourselves. When we try to hide who we are or force ourselves into a box that was never meant for us we can never grow as Christians.
Also although I refer to God as “Him” for simplicity I’ve always been a firm believer that God incorporates both male and female qualities. I’ve always believed that every relationship we can have here on earth teaches us something of God’s nature. Whether it’s father, mother, teacher, friend, lover, all of these relationships we experience here on earth teach us more about God.
"a catholic feminist" two words I never thought would come together
How? If ur Catholic ur supposed to be a feminist.
I'm dont believe in god but the existence of these people restore my faith in humanity . I was raised as an orthodox Christian and one think i learned was that jesus taught love . These people are real christians.
Grace, I just discovered your amazing series on youtube. You are the most amazing person. My cousins and I grew up in an ultra born again family. Most of us turned against it in our teens as we soon realized we could think for ourselves and see other points of view. For me that was being born again. My cousin is a lesbian and to this day she is unable to be open about it to her Mom. She is a wonderful caring person who has to live a secret life even as we approach 60! We love our parents but know we can't live by their ignorance. We have to understand that was their upbringing and we just can't change their point of view!
Close your eyes and imagine god
Brain: Flickering between images before settling on a llama stuck in a fence
THIS👏🏾WAS👏🏾PROFOUND 👏🏾 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Honestly, I think if I grew up around these types of people, this awe inspiring view of GOD, I probably NEVER would have left the Church!!! I LOVE the sense of COMMUNITY that Church provides, but if all that community preaches is HATE, (even if that hate is tied up with a pretty bow 😑) if all they preach is non-acceptance, then I want NOTHING to do with it!! I became a PAGAN for those reasons. Because I found that LOVE and ACCEPTANCE in the Pagan community and NOTHING in my Church community, I left it when I was young, and I NEVER looked back...... until NOW 😱😱😱😱😱 So thank you AGAIN, Grace, for another beautiful, impeccably presented, INSPIRATIONAL video!!!! 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄😻😻😻😻😻❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
My eyes are sweating, looking at Rebekah and her activism and her super cool family.
As a Jew, let me fuckin’ tell you real quick, the English translation of the Bible changes EVERYTHING. When you put hebrew through Greek through English, it’s like a shitty game of telephone. There’s nothing wrong with the Christian Bible per say, I’m just saying that it is an entirely different book in like six different ways then it is in the Hebrew.
What a great video. I liked that you didn’t interview anyone hateful, they have so much power and don’t need any more.
I would give anything to be able to talk to Jackie. Her faith and wisdom is amazing.
Well I'm Christian and I wonder if they most of the things in the bible has been changed a lot
@strxberrirants That's because the translations are terrible. There aren't always translations for old Hebrew words. The fact that Hebrew language also resorts to male if it's a plural word for "children" is exactly why the english translation insists that man cannot lie with man, instead of what it's actually meant to be, which is "DON"T RAPE CHILDREN". I really hate how this turns into a full agenda for weird Chistian people with a hate problem.
strxberrirants Yes they did. Back then they didn’t have a name for it. Romans 1:26-27 is clearly speaking of homosexuality.
strxberrirants Yes they did. Back then they didn’t have a name for it, today we do that’s why the word is in the new translations. Romans 1 is clearly speaking of homosexuality. I believe the LGBTQ+ should be able to attend any church they want to, but the church shouldn’t have to compromise their faith to do that. And just because we disagree don’t mean we hate the LGBTQ+ community. Not every Christian is at the Gay Parades promoting hate.
strxberrirants are sure or pretty sure? That can be a bit deceiving.
strxberrirants Sorry to hear that you no longer believe, but can you provide me with the verse(s) that you are speaking of?
This is making me consider god again for the first time since I was 7. When I realized that church was a place that isolated me from love and acceptance, I turned my back and remained spiritual in my own way. I know personally that I was born this way and that it is genetic, and if God is real they did this intentionally. And maybe to reveal who was truly loving and who actually had acceptance in their heart?
Thank u for sharing this video it make me understand more about these things
+daraampadu You're so welcome! Thank you for being here!
I remember being young in Sunday School class and asking how if King James translated the Bible, how can we be sure he did it right? And after years of studying history to find out King James had a male lover, and coming to terms with my own sexuality in a church that condemns people who are LGBTQ, I’ve realized we don’t truly know what the Bible definitely says and means, and that Christian doctrine has evolved primarily through the thoughts of man in regards to some other man’s idea of the meaning of God’s word. So definitely, I think Christians should read the Bible with their own interpretations in mind and really study other beliefs and doctrines to get the bigger picture. Just like the chaplain said here, she’s learning more about God but talking to people because we are in the image of God, and we are taught that God is all knowing and perfect. How, then, can we said God was wrong in making someone gay or transgender, or that people are wrong for identifying as LGBTQ because it’s against the laws God set?
I just really appreciate all the work Grace is doing in really questioning a lot of the hurtful and hateful doctrine of the church, and I hope her study really opens some eyes.
I have to say I have been watching your videos for a while now, but when Rebekah, because she has such an amazing family structure, answered that she is not bothered by strangers on the internet... Gosh! It brought me to tears!!! It just proves that despite all the crap we see online, human race might have a chance! I wanted to give 10 million likes on this video!!!!
+fabianat Thank you for leaving this lovely comment here & for watching!
I think Grace is doing such amazing work and I love when she posts new videos with R29.
I’m not Christian, I’m pagan, but having said that, I was raised in the Anglican Church. I am also trans and panromantic. I am throughly enjoying these videos. It makes me very happy to see such a warm and welcoming Christian community. Even though I am not Christian you have presented information in this video which has helped me question not only my understanding of Christianity, which even though I don’t follow I like to learn about anyway, but also my own faith as well, which I think, when I work out the answers to some of the questions you’ve raised, will help me gain a deeper understanding and connection with my own faith, which I think is wonderful. Not to mention, there are things in here that I think anyone can learn from, irrespect of their personal faith, to help build a deeper understanding of their own beliefs, which if embraced, can help them develop deeper understandings, and consequently gain a stronger connection to their faith. I love videos that do this, and you most certainly have. Keep up the good work.
Us Christians, if you are a real Christian, will accept you no matter what because we believe God loves everyone no matter what.
No that is the God you have created for yourself, the God of the bible calls all sinners to repent and turn to Jesus for forgiveness of sins. you do not get to redefine Christianity.
@@roxannerose6516 there have been many misconceptions and mistranslations in the bible though, as it has been translated so many times that parts can contradict each other in different versions and say things that weren’t from the beginning. ex: a verse (which i’m not positive of currently, i know it’s there but i can’t remember the original verse) originally said, or has been rumored to say: “a man should not lie with a child”, but in current translations, the verse reads: “a man should not lie with a man”. (many other verses are like this but this is my main example.)
Always reminded of Lewis Black and his joke reminding Christians that it’s “not your book”. Meaning that the old testament is an originally a Jewish religious text. All of these books were translated from Aramaic, which I can only imagine means there are a few mistranslations. For instance did you know that one of the 10 Commandments is actually “thou shalt not murder” not, “thou shalt not kill”? That’s a pretty significant difference for anyone who is a soldier or has killed in self defense. And that’s one sentence.
Phenomenal series, always look for Grace's next video.
I got to see Rebekah Bruesehoff share her testimony at the ELCA Churchwide Assembly in Houston in 2018. My younger brother recently came out as trans several months ago and the few within my congregation who our family has told so far (for name changes for a graduation ceremony) have been affirming of his newfound identity and committed to make him feel welcome and loved, including our choir director who we're very thankful for. Although I consider myself Agnostic at the moment, I personally identify with my Lutheran heritage and community and I'm more than happy to see the ELCA and other mainline protestant denominations become more accepting, welcoming, and affirming of LGBT+ individuals and their identities, because Queer Christians need a space where they can feel loved, accepted, and spiritually fulfilled. I enjoy your videos as always, people like you make all the difference!
This was so lovely to watch, and has made me really re-think my approach to Christianity, and my fear of churches etc for fear of rejection.
However, now I’m going to look up local churches who do support the LGBTQ 🏳️🌈 community. And maybe attend.
So thank you (:
same here. used to be in the Catholic Church (longstanding family tradition) but was sort of blacklisted for being LGBT+. my family doesn't know I'm LGBT+ yet but from how they react to LGBT+ issues, I don't ever want to come out to them. Our town is really small so I really am looking for an LGBT+ friendly church
i love jesus Christ did you not watch the video. Let the hate out of your heart
i love jesus Christ that’s contradictory you moron
@@joshuapotter9575 Please take the time think on your decision. The God that you serve is not the God that I serve.
"I am the lord thy God, thou shalt not have no other Gods before me"
i just want to say that this series is amazing as someone who had made the decision to leave my church and organised religion because i don’t agree with the message they are sharing it is truely uplifting to watch these videos and it really reassures my faith so thank you for making these
Question: Why does it matter to religious folks what type of body shows up at church?
I grew up in the Polish roman catholic church; it was divisive, judgmental, sexist, misogynistic etc. It took me years to understand why I was so uncomfortable with it and why I always felt so outside of it and the groups within it (and why I was often ostracized by other members of the church. Sorry for being a crazy child, mom). I may be outside of any faith now but wow are these videos beautifully put together and so intriguing. I'm very excited to be here for this part of Grace's career and hope you continue in documentary film-making; the way you approach situations and interviews is absolutely the way I wish the wider world approached human interaction.
Thank you so much for creating these videos. It’s often hard to find beautiful stories like these in the Christian world. So thank you for shining light onto such an important topic
I love Rebekah's mom so much.