2022 Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series review: On/off-road review of Toyota's iconic SUV

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @JacobHall1601
    @JacobHall1601 3 года назад +1262

    This car doesn’t exist to compete it’s legit built simple to run forever in places no other car can survive, easy to fix, reliable to run, knows it’s purpose and does nothing else, love it

    • @vailingshadow5030
      @vailingshadow5030 3 года назад +96

      Car is amazing. The issue is that the price does not match the product. You should not be paying more than $30k for this. Toyota is just riding the name and sky-rocketing the price because there is no one to compete with.

    • @tonycook2347
      @tonycook2347 3 года назад +75

      @@vailingshadow5030 When they are 10-15 yrs old and 250k on the clock and nothing needs replacing to sell. You will understand. try selling a well used ford ranger or holden colorado with 250k on it. broken and worn out.

    • @alexs3187
      @alexs3187 3 года назад +20

      @@tonycook2347 dude, if your financial investment strategy is based on the resale value of a $60k car, you’re an idiot. Are you planning on financing this vehicle too? 😂

    • @deboxmojave6541
      @deboxmojave6541 3 года назад +20

      They could have easily added some more features and still made a massive profit - but people like you are happy to pay a massive premium and give the Toyota execs higher profits

    • @tonycook2347
      @tonycook2347 3 года назад +33

      @@alexs3187 Yeah thats right. My car is worth more now than when I bought it, and it has an extra 70k on it. that's right man, im nuts!!

  • @Lubowski13
    @Lubowski13 3 года назад +322

    There's few detailed reviews about this car on RUclips. I'm glad you guys have done it. Thanks a lot.

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад +5

      Thanks for watching!

    • @erickmungandi189
      @erickmungandi189 3 года назад

      @@CarExpertAus Review the UTE too plz

    • @erickmungandi189
      @erickmungandi189 3 года назад

      @@CarExpertAus Review the UTE too plz

    • @danielhill9080
      @danielhill9080 3 года назад

      A "detailed review" would demonstrate how the vehicle handles half a million k's of corrugated bush road, which rattle most vehicles to pieces.

    • @jonahyahwehseeker4555
      @jonahyahwehseeker4555 3 года назад +2

      Toyota,
      Please bring the GXL to the US for us to buy.

  • @189kuzco
    @189kuzco 3 года назад +66

    my dad got one of these in 1996, pickup, in Zambia... he has basically used it as the farms workhorse and had clocked over a million KM travelling across countries and contending with African roads.. the thing is still moving today! body is rusting but the engine still has that distinctive roar...

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 2 года назад +6

      In central Australia this and the hilux are literally the only cars anyone drives lol…

    • @beyondbackwater4933
      @beyondbackwater4933 Год назад

      @@planetdisco4821 hilux aren't good anymore

    • @princekazhila2003
      @princekazhila2003 Год назад +1

      We had this bad boy at the ministry of development,mother and child in Zambezi west Bank.

  • @markjones5235
    @markjones5235 3 года назад +325

    In the US and a lot of other countries vehicles have become excessively over complicated. These Landcruisers are everything you need and nothing you don’t. It’s a rugged and dependable go anywhere rig and I applaud it. Great vehicle. Great review of this iconic rig.

    • @mahir6239
      @mahir6239 2 года назад +7

      Would u buy a car for 3 times the price fir just because it's Rellible

    • @shroomzed2947
      @shroomzed2947 2 года назад +20

      @@mahir6239 if you’re going to be driving this car for several decades in rural areas, then yes, absolutely

    • @mahir6239
      @mahir6239 2 года назад

      @@shroomzed2947 why.
      Life is short enjoy it

    • @shroomzed2947
      @shroomzed2947 2 года назад +12

      @@mahir6239 Some people don't live a lifestyle conducive to buying a new car every few years. Some people live in rough conditions where they need a car that'll always run so they can do their work and travel.

    • @mahir6239
      @mahir6239 2 года назад +2

      @@shroomzed2947 then how can they afford land cruiser.
      Also if they do,the fuel economy is so less In it

  • @Shadowdancer777
    @Shadowdancer777 2 года назад +97

    The interior straight out of the 90's. Clearly this was made to last. Everything is very mechanical. Not too much electrical devices that can break. I love it.

    • @NemeanLion-
      @NemeanLion- Год назад

      You would pay $55k for this? I think it’s a rip off.

    • @breemsp591
      @breemsp591 Год назад +2

      @@NemeanLion- Honestly just get a GQ patrol same thing 1/10 of the price.

    • @onesaitama5156
      @onesaitama5156 Год назад

      ​@@NemeanLion- You would pay 80k for a Tesla, I bet.

    • @NemeanLion-
      @NemeanLion- Год назад

      @@onesaitama5156 nope

    • @steelearmstrong9616
      @steelearmstrong9616 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@NemeanLion- $85k now for the 2024 2.8 Ltr 6 speed auto

  • @danmccarthy4700
    @danmccarthy4700 3 года назад +272

    I love that this thing still exists. I'm fascinated by any car that can survive 30+ years of production with little change.

    • @mahir6239
      @mahir6239 2 года назад +5

      Defender had 70 years!

    • @avinator0810
      @avinator0810 2 года назад +19

      @@mahir6239 but with 10000 times service lmao

    • @mahir6239
      @mahir6239 2 года назад

      @@avinator0810 no

    • @mahir6239
      @mahir6239 2 года назад +1

      @@avinator0810 looks like some land rover haters are here

    • @RAKITHA9
      @RAKITHA9 2 года назад +11

      Mercedes still does the G wagen , but thats slowly becoming a posh road car

  • @jimbobjones9119
    @jimbobjones9119 3 года назад +220

    I don't hear any Australians crying about the lack of safety features!

    • @philipjooste9075
      @philipjooste9075 3 года назад +11

      So true! Check out how safety issues dominate the comment section for the Jeep Gladiator review. Jeep scored 3 stars - I'll give the 76 wagon maybe 1 star! Great review nevertheless.

    • @tildey6661
      @tildey6661 3 года назад +15

      Because they’re dead lol

    • @all4dh8rz3
      @all4dh8rz3 3 года назад +26

      Do you know what the best safety feature is??
      You not being an dumb fuck and keeping your eyes on the road and concentrate! Bet you can't beat that.
      The 70 series LandCruiser is the best vehicle ever! So simple, tough and reliable...what not to like??

    • @danedge5180
      @danedge5180 3 года назад +10

      common sense is the best safety feature which the world is running low on

    • @davidphillips8416
      @davidphillips8416 3 года назад +4

      @@danedge5180 unfortunately a lot of folk seem to lack that.

  • @mdebarchez
    @mdebarchez 3 года назад +776

    They absolutely should still exist and there is a massive market for them, however they shouldn't cost $70,000 ! They must cost so little to manufacture compared to a modern vehicle

    • @kundanpatil3133
      @kundanpatil3133 3 года назад +153

      Toyota ripping people in the name of reliability

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 3 года назад +78

      The market for them is smaller hence the premium

    • @mcseed1
      @mcseed1 3 года назад +60

      Oz being worlds biggest mining country and the mines being full of these they could charge $120k and sell the same amount

    • @callumwhite1501
      @callumwhite1501 3 года назад +52

      Small production line numbers. Hence the cost

    • @plve82
      @plve82 3 года назад +41

      Literally paying extra for the privilege of having a new antiquated car.

  • @CdotForbes13
    @CdotForbes13 3 года назад +228

    This is exactly what I wish we had in the USA, love the simplicity and reliability but that would go against the constant need to replace a vehicle every 7-10 years.

    • @robmckay5700
      @robmckay5700 2 года назад +1

      Maybe import one from somewhere?

    • @TactileCoder
      @TactileCoder 2 года назад +12

      @@robmckay5700 Emissions and safety regulations wouldn't allow a car like this. You can import it, but no state will allow you to register it.

    • @quentagonthornton49
      @quentagonthornton49 2 года назад +5

      @@robmckay5700 They have been making them since 1984 so you could import an older one.

    • @morgone8675
      @morgone8675 2 года назад

      @@TactileCoder what are you even saying. It’s a modern vehicle. It’s a Toyota. Maybe change the exhaust and a couple parts and it’ll pass any emission test

    • @TactileCoder
      @TactileCoder 2 года назад +15

      @@morgone8675 it's not "couple of parts". You need to add things like EGR system if it doesn't have one, change the engine tuning, modify intake or exhaust headers, and so on. Now that's just the EPA stuff. Then, NTHSA will want to make sure its set of crash safety rules are met, so modifying the bumper, adding marker lights and reflectors, and at worst crash testing. Yes, you heard that right. The 70 series has no counterpart frame sold in the U.S. so they may want to damage your car to test it. :)

  • @2000_bms
    @2000_bms Год назад +15

    Really wish we had this in America. Absolutely beautiful car, extremely rare to find modern cars that look like this anymore.

    • @bonza6451
      @bonza6451 Год назад

      It's very odd that you guys don't

  • @zeeshan137
    @zeeshan137 3 года назад +41

    Lots and love and appreciation from England here! There's something soothing about seeing proper RHD cars being reviewed!

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад

      Glad you found it enjoyable! 😀

  • @kevgits
    @kevgits 3 года назад +172

    If reliability is your first, second and third priority, this is the vehicle for you. It's probably not for me but there is something about its capability that tugs at my heartstrings. True Icon.

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад +6

      True!

    • @Shane-zx4ps
      @Shane-zx4ps 3 года назад +1

      Well said, what is your car of choice?...

    • @kevgits
      @kevgits 3 года назад +4

      @@Shane-zx4ps Macan Turbo

    • @Shane-zx4ps
      @Shane-zx4ps 3 года назад +1

      @@kevgits now I understand why..👍. Good luck with the Porsche..

    • @RBPhantomTilt
      @RBPhantomTilt 3 года назад +1

      Except the Prado and 200 Series are just as reliable.

  • @nine8three310
    @nine8three310 3 года назад +1958

    I think the 70 Series exists for the people who prefer to go to the bank instead of using online banking 😎

  • @franklowe3798
    @franklowe3798 3 года назад +65

    I was hesitant about my 79 series as I’ve owned two 4WD’s previously , but I took the plunge and quickly found the torque to be on demand whenever you need it ,
    it’s capability straight out of the box is mind boggling thanks Toyota I’m now a full convert and tragic fan boy of the 79 . Fowlers bay beaches and isolated remote sand dunes cliff top navigation and tight windy hills , we were fully loaded and packed to the hilt with wifey and two lads ,I sat in low 4wd , tyres at 18 psi ,I never got bogged once the torque availability is present just after idle , so low in the rev range, I never had to use the diff locks once ,
    saw lots of 200 series , patrols ,hilux’s ,tritons didn’t see any navara or rangers but suffice to say ,all were having their own little dramas in the deep sand ,
    All except us , what ever Toyota has done or for whatever the reason , please know this associated 70 series formulation absolutely works with bucket loads of ability.
    And I must say with this much confidence in the ability’s of your vehicle ,driving the most remote coast of south Australia was an all time high and the best driving experience I’ve ever had .
    Why did I procrastinate for so many years ,I will tell you why, social media ,I listened to all the silly little un educated patrol fan boy nay sayers and their utter nonsense. Thanks Toyota for providing me with the most amazing experience I’ve ever had with an out of the box vehicle ,
    now I’m gonna build up my 79 into an amazing overlander, I can’t wait.
    STRAYA HERE I COME !

    • @rollyb5061
      @rollyb5061 3 года назад

      these 70's are a beast of a 4x4, it will be more capable with a few mods

    • @cryptidhunter9901
      @cryptidhunter9901 2 года назад

      Totally made up story

    • @Nordheide
      @Nordheide Год назад +3

      @@Paradoxical124 No one buys this LC to drive it along in the „modern world“. It’s for places where every modern car will fail.

    • @Nordheide
      @Nordheide Год назад

      @@Paradoxical124 And what’s your problem about the quality of the Prado? It’s an excellent vehicle for what it is.

    • @pablolobo6560
      @pablolobo6560 Год назад +1

      @@Nordheide , exactly!

  • @robotomo4249
    @robotomo4249 2 года назад +38

    I really like what Toyota is doing with the 70 series. I think it is really cool how they are using old parts to increase durability and longevity. These old parts also enhances the nostalgic feel for me. The lack of technology is also a thing I love about this car, nothing but you, the car and the road, or dirt. Most people would think that (since I'm 17 and don't live in the outback) I'd hate this car because it's "too old", but that couldn't be further from the truth! Although all the technology in cars today is very impressive and extremely helpful, I can't help but feel that it takes away from the raw experience of driving.

    • @sebastianguerra343
      @sebastianguerra343 Год назад +1

      I feel exactly the same lol I hope I can get my hands on one when I get older

  • @barryphillips7327
    @barryphillips7327 3 года назад +106

    Unlike almost every other vehicle this one will still going in 20++ years, just a good basic uncomplicated Toyota!

  • @hemishjoseph7401
    @hemishjoseph7401 3 года назад +97

    I can just buy this car and not worry about it for 25 years ...now that's build quality

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад +3

      Except for all the driveline problems & 20k you have to spend to make it livable. My patrol is 30 years old & I'm not going to have to worry about it in my lifetime (I'm 44)

    • @simbayihamaundu3616
      @simbayihamaundu3616 3 года назад +2

      I agree with you. the only problem it has its its gear box. Toyota just has to give it a 6 speed gear box

  • @EliKirkMusic
    @EliKirkMusic 3 года назад +96

    It makes me immensely happy they still make 'em like they used to

  • @bi5048
    @bi5048 3 года назад +5

    I love when he demonstrated the cargo fits his backpack and that suitcase. Proven it fits!

  • @TheRokr1292
    @TheRokr1292 3 года назад +8

    Not only SHOULD this exist today, we need more of it today. Wish they were available in the states.

  • @tonys8243
    @tonys8243 3 года назад +119

    Good to see a vehicle without all the technology that only stops working over time ...love it

    • @datboibazzle2117
      @datboibazzle2117 3 года назад +9

      shame it costs more than any other 4x4 in the market with no features and less power and no sound deadening

    • @tonys8243
      @tonys8243 3 года назад +2

      DatBoiBazzle .. well over priced and no bells and whistles no padded this and that bugger all cup holders no trick electric entertainment gizmos but a fair trade off if you do really want to go bush and be reasonably sure you'll come back again.

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 3 года назад +3

      The engineering isn't invulnerable especially when it comes to the delicate fuel system on these and the raft of cruisers that have died from dust ingestion with no warranty repair
      Also the rear disc brakes from factory have been know to wear out under 5000km

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад +2

      @@Ktmfan450 Don't forget the notoriously weak axles, hubs, drive shafts, diff centers & transfer.

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 3 года назад +3

      @@gqwarrior6694 True also the front track width has been 50mm wider than the back for almost a decade

  • @rossdrayton5476
    @rossdrayton5476 3 года назад +67

    When the “Fit hits the Shan” this is the 4wd you need to be in. Bullet proof Reliability. No latte auto drivers will even consider it. Long live the 70’s series. The true off-roaders choice.

  • @jalapeno_salsa
    @jalapeno_salsa 3 года назад +633

    This is a car that you will still be driving after your friend has gone through 5 german cars...or 10 Land rovers

    • @nikchris69
      @nikchris69 3 года назад +24

      but i have my german car for 20 years sir, what do i do? Do i throw it away and buy this?

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +15

      Please don't even try to compare this to land rover or German cars lmao it will barely last longer

    • @sepic13
      @sepic13 3 года назад +20

      I still have golf 2 GTD 850.000 km on clock 1988 model !! Still going perfectly fine

    • @craigdavid6668
      @craigdavid6668 3 года назад +6

      100%😂

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm 3 года назад +18

      Yes that's why you don't see all those old Mercedes in Africa...oh, wait.

  • @hartleyktm
    @hartleyktm 3 года назад +8

    I hope Toyota keep making it for many many years more. I wish to be available in USA, I would buy one in a heartbeat.

  • @tobyjacob8701
    @tobyjacob8701 3 года назад +10

    The 70 series should still be production because it serves a purpose and a market. Eventually the V8 will be phased out due to emission requirements but the form factor should definitely be maintained. Great review of the mighty LC76! 👏🏽 Greetings from PNG 🇵🇬 🙏🏽🤙🏽

  • @MstaEd
    @MstaEd 3 года назад +427

    "PLEASE TOYOTA ...PLEASE SELL THIS IN AMERICA!"

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm 3 года назад +42

      Wouldn't get past the emissions.

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад +24

      Trust me, you don't want this as much as you think you do

    • @Muadddibb
      @Muadddibb 3 года назад +3

      @@gqwarrior6694 We want a GQ right?

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад +8

      @@Muadddibb GQ-GU patrol or 80-105 seies landcruiser are both better choices. Both cheaper & both with better engine choice & both built in a straight line. Not 100mm narrower at the back.

    • @Estuardino71
      @Estuardino71 3 года назад +23

      They sell it in the Spanish speaking part of the American Continent.

  • @davidmjames6793
    @davidmjames6793 3 года назад +138

    The colour is Sandy Taupe. The most icon colour in the landcruiser range.

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад +10

      And the cheapest 😅

    • @YeahMate07
      @YeahMate07 3 года назад +18

      It’s factory name is Taliban Tan!

    • @davidmjames6793
      @davidmjames6793 3 года назад +2

      @@YeahMate07 in aus the factory name is in fact Sandy taupe

    • @YeahMate07
      @YeahMate07 3 года назад +7

      @@davidmjames6793 bet you are fun at parties.

    • @nickdixon669
      @nickdixon669 3 года назад +4

      most iconic in the troop carriers I reckon. good colour.

  • @syedmustafa3145
    @syedmustafa3145 3 года назад +168

    American reviewers doing “light off-roading”: a gravel driveway and maybe a beach
    Australian “light off-roading”: literally a sheer cliff

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад +7

      😅

    • @reynierdp
      @reynierdp 3 года назад +2

      Look up “voetspore” it’s a group of guys that chooses a different destination in North Africa every year and drives there from Cape Town. The LC and patrols feature quite often.

    • @mark-qi6di
      @mark-qi6di 3 года назад +1

      @@reynierdp hey, fellow south african! :) Never heard of voetspore. Looks pretty sick!

    • @sofascialistadankulamegado1781
      @sofascialistadankulamegado1781 3 года назад

      Australian: fakenoafkarnt

  • @hopeisland01
    @hopeisland01 Год назад

    I own one, a GXL model. Purchased 19/01/20. Has 45000 on the clock. Have added bullbar, towbar, new head unit, clearview mirrors, electric brake control, CB radio, Anderson plug. Love it.

  • @peternorthey6659
    @peternorthey6659 3 года назад +2

    No bells and whistles so refreshing in this day of gimmicky throw away stuff, its the things you can't see that makes these 70 series so tough.The occupants of the truck will break and give up before these things will,my 17 old Troops is testament to that.

  • @justsaying9483
    @justsaying9483 3 года назад +116

    Aircon as standard...that’s impressive...

    • @Napoleon_Blownapart
      @Napoleon_Blownapart 3 года назад +4

      No AC on Australian heat... Yikes

    • @tonydoggett7627
      @tonydoggett7627 3 года назад +3

      No Air conditioning on Papua New Guinea models in the tropics. The 70 series was the only vehicle in the fleet we were running that didn’t shake to pieces. (Note: no v8’s in PNG)

    • @Shane-zx4ps
      @Shane-zx4ps 2 года назад

      @@tonydoggett7627 every vehicle sold in Europe has air conditioned, even the cold countries

    • @tonydoggett7627
      @tonydoggett7627 2 года назад +3

      @@Shane-zx4ps it’s not good for your lungs to jump from low humidity to high humidity all the time in the tropics, it’s best just to acclimatise to the constant temperature and drive with the windows down. E.g. I sleep all night with open windows and no covers and just a ceiling fan when on the Equator

    • @A.D.D.O.C.D.T
      @A.D.D.O.C.D.T 2 года назад

      Aircon is for softcocks 😂
      Ten years in Mt Isa and no aircon ,8 years in Cairns no aircon.
      Put the windows down and ya golden 😂😂

  • @nevininni2709
    @nevininni2709 3 года назад +275

    $71,500 for a 2021 new one and $90,000 for a 2019 used one with 100,000kms

    • @skitzeeskotz6898
      @skitzeeskotz6898 3 года назад +10

      Coz the newer models are complete crap

    • @brendankime4692
      @brendankime4692 3 года назад +60

      @@skitzeeskotz6898 okay so can you tell us what changed between 19 and 21 to make them crap?

    • @cloudysky9991
      @cloudysky9991 3 года назад +16

      @@brendankime4692 I think he is pulling your leg

    • @skitzeeskotz6898
      @skitzeeskotz6898 3 года назад +49

      ​@@brendankime4692
      I am not sure of the year they introduced the traction control, the hill start assist and the higher gear ratio. Either way, the models that have these are definately not on my future wish list. I worked for a drilling company and had the displeasure of having a newer model as part of my employment arrangements and I can tell you I wish I kept the older model.
      The hill start assist is absolute rubbish. At first I couldnt understand what the hell was going on. Virtually flat road and go to take off and you stall because the damn brakes were on. If you as a driver are too useless to take off on flat ground let alone a hill then fine, have a button you can push to help you do it but never have it as a forced option.
      The traction control was counter productive too. In soft sand the damn thing cuts the engine so you basically bog down...unless you are in low4 so the traction control stays off when you turn it off.
      In the older model I used to drive almost everywhere in 2wd and not have a problem. With the new model, forget it. You just end up in the bush unless you put it into 4wd.
      The abs leaves a lot to be desired. On the gravel roads you just dont stop.
      The cab is less comfy on the newer models. The damn stereo deck is useless - it refuses to remember what track you were up to on a usb stick.
      The fuel tank is too small.
      The gearbox seems to be extra noisy and clunky. May have just been my particular vehicle.
      The auto hubs have to be kept on manual if you want to change in or out of 4wd on the move or all you get is grinding.
      The only plus about the newer models is the track correction and the improved gear ratios. This however is not a strong enough argument to warrant me ever buying another cruiser. I am not a city slicker soccer mum driving to the oval on weekends. Toyota needs to stop putting crap features into the build to cater for people who cannot drive. This includes every bell and alarm under the sun that screams at you because the handbrake is on, the door is open, your seatbelt aint on etc etc. I am only too aware that the bloody door is open or my seatbelt aint on etc. The stupid things you have to do to use this vehicle in a farm environment etc is over the top. Try jumping in and out of the vehicle whilst travelling short distances maneuvering with the door open to check around the vehicle. From dumb alarms and so called safety devices to a stupid hillstart assist that stalls the vehicle because when you want to go it should go not wait for you to rev the engine for a second before taking off!!
      The more technical and more ahem, refined they make the cruiser the more shit it is and more prone to failure it will be.
      I will stick with my 2012 model which runs rings around the 2021 model.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 3 года назад +3

      That's just a 2019 Quality Control proven unit.

  • @MvzZAinc
    @MvzZAinc 3 года назад +97

    Most cars: Radars, cameras, sensors......
    LC76 Series: You are able to manually adjust the height of your antenna

    • @adventureawakened
      @adventureawakened 3 года назад +1

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha
      So true😅😅😅😅😅
      But still amazing vehicle

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm 3 года назад +1

      And manually wind down your windows.

    • @KYNQxEdz
      @KYNQxEdz 3 года назад

      I still think that's cool 🤔😂

    • @MP_145
      @MP_145 3 года назад

      😮

    • @wizzylizzy69
      @wizzylizzy69 3 года назад +3

      If you need all that bullshit you should just hand your licence back.

  • @D_dompa
    @D_dompa 3 года назад +2

    I once see this in Indonesia. this thing's so beautiful it stole my mind for weeks

  • @nishaat5730
    @nishaat5730 9 месяцев назад

    The fact that this exists just makes me happy. Just happy. Not over the moon, not excited but just happy to chug along with its existence.

  • @stuartgruchy2873
    @stuartgruchy2873 3 года назад +47

    Just need to edit that they do have child anchorage points. They are on the roof above the barn doors. 😊 There is 3 of them!

  • @andychan4814
    @andychan4814 3 года назад +59

    Vehicles like this should continue to exist to show younger people that having new technology and update everything to electric doesn't necessarily make it better. In fact I adds extra cost to vehicles. If its already good there's no need to change it

    • @trainingtheworld5093
      @trainingtheworld5093 3 года назад +24

      It adds cost? Why is this thing $70,000? Toyota charges it because there are two kinds of buyers: Mines, farms and then the silly posers with a lot of cash. The car isn’t worth that money and Toyota laugh all the way to the bank wondering how they sell shite from 1985 to the stupid yabanjin.

    • @bondmcnugget
      @bondmcnugget 3 года назад +2

      Haha your statement and the cost of this thing doesn't make sense 😂

    • @TAB10688
      @TAB10688 3 года назад

      @@trainingtheworld5093 amen

    • @trainingtheworld5093
      @trainingtheworld5093 3 года назад

      @UCprqHwY3ULLEu44IKEpFfJw I am sure there are use scenarios for these vehicles, just not for posers who go camping once a month or drive on the beach once a year.

    • @goverat
      @goverat 3 года назад

      @@trainingtheworld5093 the Australian market if flooded with pick-ups, for those in the market for a 4wd, if you don't want a pick-up, you're limited to a 70 series, pajero sport or MU-X

  • @lukewarm2075
    @lukewarm2075 3 года назад +28

    Love it its good to see someone is paying attention to what people want thank you.

    • @larjkok1184
      @larjkok1184 3 года назад +1

      Almost no one wants one of these. And even fewer will buy one.

  • @LooxJJ
    @LooxJJ 2 года назад +2

    back in early 2000s, just after Dakar rally was at its last leg in Africa, I drove 70 series across the sub-Sahara. Through Timbuktu Mali and back to Cote d'Ivore. What a fond fond experience.

  • @landcruiser1055
    @landcruiser1055 3 года назад +23

    These are real 4x4’s. Tough as nails, no frills. Shits all over the new Landrover pretend 4x4 😂

  • @stuartgruchy2873
    @stuartgruchy2873 3 года назад +28

    Absolutely love mine. Yes I've spent a fortune on it but it has so much character compared to other vehicles out there. Perfect Cruiser for me!

    • @Shane-zx4ps
      @Shane-zx4ps 3 года назад +1

      You lucky bastard, did you go for the top spec

    • @erikekdahl6233
      @erikekdahl6233 3 года назад +3

      Same here, yes I also spent a fortune on it to turn it from a farm truck into an overland tourer, but the point is if you do spend the money you can get a spectacular machine, no amount of money can turn a Ranger or Amarok into the finished product you can get when you start with a 70 series.

    • @mikeykeyes
      @mikeykeyes 3 года назад +2

      to spend a fortune you are making even more- sadly the 2% who own 98% of Aussie resources mate....

    • @Australiacalling
      @Australiacalling 3 года назад +9

      Hahahahaha, that's what I don't understand, you need to spend a fortune on buying these things, then need to spend another fortune on them to make them only a reasonable 4WD. For any manufacture to sell a car with 100mm smaller wheel track than the front and get away with it, is nuts, let alone a number of other faults with these cars, I don't get it, but it does come down to, if you are happy with the car, that's all that matters I suppose.

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад +2

      GQ patrol td42. Better built, better equipped, more reliable, more capable, quarter of the price & no need to spend 50k fixing manufacturer bad design & set up to make liveable. It's a 30yr old recipe that toyota still can't beat

  • @patrickchebos6041
    @patrickchebos6041 3 года назад +40

    Yes they should exist, and hopefully get an exemption to continue in production in 2040. Great that you could review this car Paul, thanks!

  • @timyang8328
    @timyang8328 3 года назад +20

    Just bought my new lc79 gxl Ute in Melbourne and the delivery time is February 2022.

  • @hardy9429
    @hardy9429 3 года назад +1

    Back in the 90s this would have been my dream car, and for a lot of people today it still is.

  • @Ankur3108
    @Ankur3108 3 года назад +1

    a very charming brick,its such a pleasure that these things are still in production,should never go out of production in my opinion

  • @martyhoare7558
    @martyhoare7558 3 года назад +8

    One of the best, if not the best, 4x4s on the market. I drove one from one end of PNG to the other under extreme conditions and it was a bomb proof powerhouse.

  • @jeffsama7601
    @jeffsama7601 3 года назад +8

    I just love the way it's always simple. In my opinion I think it should always exist even today

  • @hennietanya3533
    @hennietanya3533 3 года назад +36

    Looks like a time worp straight out of the 80's, tough as hell. nothing can break

    • @charlesgale4257
      @charlesgale4257 3 года назад +2

      But look at the headlights they look like rounded squares the way modern headlights look I dont think toyota ever made a car in the 80 or 90s with headlights like this they were always a perfect circle or square the headlights are to modern.

  • @rajeshmb6745
    @rajeshmb6745 3 года назад +4

    Wow! That's a monster of an Engine in terms of Size, V8 Diesel, very rare. These days I don't think anyone manufacturers provide anything above V6 Diesel. Nice review though, life was much simpler back then.

  • @karimhabsi6508
    @karimhabsi6508 3 года назад

    I spent my entire late teens and early twenties driving this vehicle in the Omani desert working for oil companies. This is the car in which I learned driving. Built like a rock.

  • @theflyingfatman2186
    @theflyingfatman2186 3 года назад +153

    Never clicked faster in my entire life🥳

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад +1

      😅

    • @theflyingfatman2186
      @theflyingfatman2186 3 года назад +4

      @@CarExpertAus Amazing review, love that truck, the top selling vehicle in my country

    • @TAB10688
      @TAB10688 3 года назад +1

      @@theflyingfatman2186 which country?

    • @theflyingfatman2186
      @theflyingfatman2186 3 года назад +4

      @@TAB10688 Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬

  • @BodenM
    @BodenM 3 года назад +47

    The problem with the modern 70 series is that there's a LOT of parts in the powertrain you can't fix yourself on the side of the road, unlike older 70 series. If anything in the common rail system shits the bed you're getting a tow truck home. Also, for a car that recouped its R&D costs a very long time ago it's obscenely expensive especially given the poor equipment levels.

    • @phonicfrog_
      @phonicfrog_ 3 года назад +6

      Absolutely correct about the fuel system. Not like the old model with the manual primer pump & mechanical injection.
      Nowadays, anything wrong with the fuel system, it's on a tow truck.

    • @Combatt_Wombatt
      @Combatt_Wombatt 3 года назад +2

      What modern 4x4 can you fix on the side of the road?

    • @HardstylePete
      @HardstylePete 3 года назад +5

      @@Combatt_Wombatt none

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад +4

      @@Combatt_Wombatt None & that's why I'll never sell my td gq

    • @Combatt_Wombatt
      @Combatt_Wombatt 3 года назад +1

      @@gqwarrior6694 😂

  • @DingasPro
    @DingasPro 3 года назад +27

    This thing here in Africa everyone has respect for these, they have a never die attitude. Not a great city commuter but what an offroad performer. Great vehicle.

    • @brian_jake
      @brian_jake 3 года назад +5

      true. In my country Kenya, they are used in national parks and reserves, safari and UN. The 200 series is used by almost every politicians and wealthy businessmen

    • @DingasPro
      @DingasPro 3 года назад +7

      @@brian_jake Here in Mozambique, the 200 series is used by politicians and for some reason Arabic/Indian businessmen too, everyone else uses the hilux mainly because its cheaper, comfortable on the roads and the handling characteristics are much better. The 79 series everyone respects it, my cousin has 1 but he has a business so it makes sense to have 1. We rarely see them in town but outside of town in rural areas and farmlands the hilux and lc79 are around.

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад

      If you guys think these are grwat off road, you need to try a solid axle with coils all round & doesn't have a rear track that's 100mm narrower than the front

    • @DingasPro
      @DingasPro 3 года назад

      @@gqwarrior6694 The GQ patrol are great same goes for th 80 series land cruiser with coil springs front and rear are great in terms of flex. From factory its a different scenario, yea they have great flex and are good offroad but without aftermarket suspension components most 4x4s are decent offroad.

  • @soapbox187
    @soapbox187 3 года назад +3

    Paul...
    A car like this should not only exist today but also tomorrow and for many, many years to come.
    Regulation has crippled reliability and only going to get worse.
    Im SO glad a vehicle like this still exists!
    Stellar review.

  • @lucagattoni-celli1377
    @lucagattoni-celli1377 3 года назад

    I am blown away that they still manufacture and sell that thing but you guys have a brutal environment so it makes sense.

  • @paulboon1100
    @paulboon1100 3 года назад +35

    Its a 60 series with a v8 and front coil springs, what more could one want!? Yes they should keep building them!

    • @millermcpherson164
      @millermcpherson164 3 года назад +2

      I can't believe I sold my fj60 at 250K miles. I only.made a few hundred on the sale. Now it's worth four times its original price. If they only sold the 70 here in the USA. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Rebuilt 60s are going for 50k plus here.

    • @paulboon1100
      @paulboon1100 3 года назад

      @@millermcpherson164 I've owned my FJ62 high roof carburettor model on dual fuel for 22 years now, and I'm glad I never sold it, was tempted a few times but decided against it, no regrets. Needs paint and a couple of small oil leaks fixed, that's all. 640k km (about 410k miles) on the clock. Taking it on 7000km trip into the outback next week. Third one in a year, Really looking forward to getting out there. Maybe you'll come across a good one for a good price? Keep looking they are around. Either way they are easy to fix. I bought a cheap running one for parts.

    • @steely1neverwane
      @steely1neverwane 3 года назад +1

      60's never had that much plastic on em.

  • @Naessey
    @Naessey 3 года назад +15

    This car should definitely stay on. Six speed manual or auto gearbox would absolutely have made the package

  • @nikkipedro
    @nikkipedro 3 года назад +24

    Must stay on. Essential motoring. Good job again, thanks Paul.

  • @nabeelshaikh1103
    @nabeelshaikh1103 3 года назад +1

    After reading the comments, I have faith in people who show love for old classic cars launched in modern times 💖

  • @NoOne56488
    @NoOne56488 2 года назад +4

    Still have late 80's early 90's landcruiser on the family farm, was bought with the straight (4.0 i think)6 and it's still going today. Done well over 300k and it just keeps going, with no major repairs needed for it. Yeah it's slow and very basic but these things are bullet proof, it's what i also learnt to drive in back in the 90's. It was and still is used for rounding up cattle in it, and general farm duties.

  • @anoshshinde8276
    @anoshshinde8276 3 года назад +16

    70 series is amazing and they should keep manufacturing them as looks awesome and these should also be made available in Indian market

    • @mohitmeena1
      @mohitmeena1 3 года назад

      Same thought bro

    • @mohitmeena1
      @mohitmeena1 3 года назад

      I think about importing this car but 100 custom dutu shakes my plan

    • @9inchpp
      @9inchpp 3 года назад +1

      They wouldn't gonna afford it

  • @CruiserBrah
    @CruiserBrah 3 года назад +55

    The pinnacle of engineering excellence from 1984!

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад +4

      😅

    • @austdisco3970
      @austdisco3970 3 года назад

      Looks like a 1990's J70 Prado - Google it.

    • @CruiserBrah
      @CruiserBrah 3 года назад

      @@austdisco3970 ????

    • @gqwarrior6694
      @gqwarrior6694 3 года назад +1

      @@CruiserBrah Cruiser owner. No sense of humour

    • @CruiserBrah
      @CruiserBrah 3 года назад

      @@gqwarrior6694 hahahaa. He obviously doesn't realise that the J70 Prado was based on this platform but with coil springs.

  • @avonrastonar
    @avonrastonar 3 года назад +5

    I'd put that up against anything modern in its class. You don't need it to be lightning quick , because this thing will shine where most would fail. Love the 70!!!!

  • @brianmwirigi200
    @brianmwirigi200 2 года назад

    Best car reviewer,I never misses any of your videos.But we need you to be talking about the engines.

  • @ThePeca1988
    @ThePeca1988 3 года назад +16

    Wow! Besides its price this is incredible! There is absolutely a place for these, old mechanical goodness, with no compromises. I would definitely get one of these, as the one i drive is allready 30 years old. This would be a great replacement, a car whats just keeping it simple, and focus on the important things.. perfect 👌

  • @samyadav006
    @samyadav006 3 года назад +18

    Love the classic look of it! Never knew much about old land cruisers and how reliable it is! I got a Camry but the land cruisers are just another level thing! Great video and with great info! 🛣

  • @Sam-pe5np
    @Sam-pe5np 3 года назад +10

    One of the greatest sadnesses of my life is the fact that this fantastic machine is not sold in the USA.

    • @TSL73
      @TSL73 3 года назад +1

      You can import Landcruisers over 25 years old

  • @maximusbzg
    @maximusbzg 3 года назад +5

    Its amazing this thing exists in 2021. Kudos to Toyota for building a vehicle for this niche market

  • @DavidMGKiza
    @DavidMGKiza Год назад +2

    The most reliable off-roader 👍. They made it simple for the owners to customize it according to their preferences.

  • @k.r.baylor8825
    @k.r.baylor8825 Год назад +1

    Toyota should get its Washington DC lobbyists to craft an exemption for the Series 70 vehicles from the US laws keeping this marvelous vehicle out of the North American market.
    This one would still sell very well to an extremely loyal customer base. I know I'd love one in my North Carolina garage!

  • @hiranyakarunathilaka1615
    @hiranyakarunathilaka1615 3 года назад +7

    These are the vehicles give driving pleasure to the maximum. In love with 70 series ❤️

  • @rorynesta7766
    @rorynesta7766 3 года назад +5

    we had four of these 70s series for sale and they all sold for guys who needed it in the country.Most traded their hilux and rangers for this.I absolutely love driving this with the good low end torque.

  • @charlescleophat9871
    @charlescleophat9871 3 года назад +42

    I hope the 70 series stay in production forever. This thing is a workhorse.

    • @reynierdp
      @reynierdp 3 года назад +1

      There’s a sea of them here at the factory in South Africa where they get made, doubtful they’ll disappear soon.

  • @Paul_McNulty
    @Paul_McNulty 3 года назад +3

    I use the dual cab version of this for our grain farm. Tows anything, fully reliable, handy for taking people out to the fields, comfortable for going to town to get stuff. It is basic, though.

  • @strike8665
    @strike8665 2 года назад

    I own a 1985 FJ73 cruiser, I could park mine beside that and you could see the history of the model and that's great. Cruiser owners love that they're all the same, rugged and simple. Long live the Cruiser!!

  • @Andrew-1974
    @Andrew-1974 3 года назад +17

    I wish you had the troopy, that’s my ultimate dream touring vehicle. You’re wrong about the rubber tube on the mirror, my 85 Hilux had that too, it’s for vibration. If you had have started the vehicle and removed the rubber, you’d know what it’s purpose was for, not durability, cos it bends the frame -lol. The dealer probably told you that.
    To answer your question, as long as mining exists, these vehicles will exist. I hope they never stop making them personally - love simplicity

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 3 года назад +1

      what is a troopy?

    • @Andrew-1974
      @Andrew-1974 3 года назад +2

      @@ChurchInAshes @0:13 the white one is a troopy, short for troop carrier. It’s oztrayan slang mate

  • @lggaming2990
    @lggaming2990 3 года назад +7

    I buy these for my work cars.. zero fuss zero issues and resale is excellent. Compare buying a car once every 15 years vs flipping a lighter one every 5 and it makes sense environmentally too

  • @archechme
    @archechme 3 года назад +35

    I believe this is the car that Leo Prinsloo was driving when he was ambushed in Pretoria, South Africa.

    • @Tammy-xf4kz
      @Tammy-xf4kz 3 года назад

      Yep. The Dual Cab version

    • @zarakdurrani7584
      @zarakdurrani7584 3 года назад +2

      Beat the shit out of those ford pickups the perps were using to stop Leo.

    • @V_For_Vigilante
      @V_For_Vigilante 3 года назад +1

      South africa is the worst country ever because it has a high crime rate

    • @pierre68299
      @pierre68299 3 года назад

      Even in south africa where you dont get good service from a,dealership,you can still rely on toyota service,and even that cruiser,even if it is more expensive than other basic off road vehicles,id still buy it for the good service and I know,when I sell it,the resale value will be good

    • @Tammy-xf4kz
      @Tammy-xf4kz 3 года назад

      @@V_For_Vigilante how long have you lived there

  • @themeettrees
    @themeettrees 3 года назад +1

    Simple & to the point - the definition of a real offroader

  • @QuackLoud
    @QuackLoud 2 года назад +3

    Love the review! We can't get this in the US. My Isuzu Trooper had that split tailgate. I really wish we could get that 70 Series in the US. I like the straight forward format. Thanks.

  • @petermapstone9684
    @petermapstone9684 3 года назад +20

    The 70 series Landcruiser earned it’s place in the market over decades. With the Patrol ute gone it’s in a class of it’s own for enthusiasts and fleet buyers who need dependable off road vehicles. Definitely needs to stay on the market. Once it’s gone it won’t be coming back and the market would be the poorer for it.

  • @lordchancellor3103
    @lordchancellor3103 3 года назад +4

    Nice vehicle, I’m a university student and that is my dream car ; it is a legendary warrior I can cross every valley with it. I hope it will exist until I’m done with varsity; I really wanna own that warrior. Keep it up Toyota! ✊🏾

  • @DiHandley
    @DiHandley 3 года назад +14

    I think you’ll find that the people that buy this vehicle will be looking to modify the hell out of it. Bullbar, side steps, Roofracks, driving lights, long range tank, bash plates, suspension lift etc. Why pay for a 4WD with all the bells and whistles if you’re only going to modify it to suit your requirements? There’s also less to go wrong when you’re in the outback!

    • @CarExpertAus
      @CarExpertAus  3 года назад

      True!

    • @CruiserBrah
      @CruiserBrah 3 года назад +1

      That's OK but it's 20k over priced. It comes with nothing, it should be priced accordingly, especially since it was designed in the early 1980's. The design has been paid for many times over.

    • @DiHandley
      @DiHandley 3 года назад +2

      @@CruiserBrah Yes but it’s a TOYOTA which means BMW in Japan. So you’re paying for the badge. Ridiculous!

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 3 года назад +3

      @@DiHandley you're paying for the quality. You simply wont find another modern vehicle that will last 25 years in a third world environment with little maintenance like this one would.

    • @cruiser6260
      @cruiser6260 3 года назад

      @@DiHandley not in Japan, in USA and Oz yes. In Japan they know all Japanese cars have Japanese reliability

  • @joshuahill5271
    @joshuahill5271 Год назад

    Never died in one going off roading, never broke down. My Grandads 90s series Land Cruiser worked, ran and thats it.

  • @marcelfotomoto
    @marcelfotomoto 2 года назад

    Great to see an 'old' car. The simplicity is so refreshing.

  • @SleepySriracha
    @SleepySriracha 3 года назад +54

    I wish Toyota still made the legendary FJ cruiser but with diesel maybe with the 2.8 liter GD engine

    • @Combatt_Wombatt
      @Combatt_Wombatt 3 года назад +6

      There's rumours of the HJ.. Especially since the Bronco came back. Top Gear has a article about it and some pictures they made up.

    • @addanashraf
      @addanashraf 3 года назад +3

      They still make it in the middle east

    • @Combatt_Wombatt
      @Combatt_Wombatt 3 года назад +1

      @@addanashraf I believe he means HJ.

  • @rabisalomo
    @rabisalomo 3 года назад +20

    This Toyota just screams. "Throw at me whatever he f*** you want". 😂

    • @alexfrankl7861
      @alexfrankl7861 3 года назад

      Except ruts , watch the underslung leafsprings and shocks get caught up on everything

  • @deanehill9730
    @deanehill9730 3 года назад +9

    I own a 79 series singLe cab, 2019. I bought it for it’s no nonsense build and dependability and it’s the 4th Landcruiser I have owned. If you want a tizzy car, buy a Range Rover.

  • @crazexskater
    @crazexskater 2 года назад

    No bells... no whistles... all go... no show... simple, basic, practical...perfect.
    I want one...

  • @ooluta7578
    @ooluta7578 3 года назад

    LOVE IT! No hustle with all the costly bells and whistles Americans adore. This here is what I need.

  • @marlonm396
    @marlonm396 3 года назад +12

    Thanks for the review because we don't get these vehicles in the USA. I love these vehicles, but i didn't know they would cost that much being such a basic vehicle. I guess what you are paying for is longevity as this Cruiser will last 30 years with minimal issues. Cheers mate.

  • @ppha7665
    @ppha7665 3 года назад +43

    We need this in the US, I'd buy one in a heartbeat!

    • @alexs3187
      @alexs3187 3 года назад

      But you can get a Bronco, it’s going to be way more fun I promise.

    • @reynierdp
      @reynierdp 3 года назад +4

      They’re solid and can run on dirty diesel but it’s uncomfortable as hell. We use them a lot here in South Africa

    • @alexs3187
      @alexs3187 3 года назад +1

      @@reynierdp does the 4.5 turbo run on high sulfur diesel? That alone would prob make it not meet US EPA emissions. I feel like these are a bit of a novelty. People think they want them until they have spent a bit of time in them.

    • @Slothsport
      @Slothsport 3 года назад +3

      THEYRE SHIT. YOU REALLY DONT WANT THEM.

    • @sergeyzinoviev256
      @sergeyzinoviev256 3 года назад

      @@alexs3187 lol

  • @timwalton3443
    @timwalton3443 3 года назад +29

    It's almost like Paul is trying to hold his laughter in the entire time, like he's thinking, "This is a brand new car??"

    • @jafu745
      @jafu745 3 года назад +2

      It will outlive most new competitors that have bells and whistles you don't need. I have no idea how they passed this on safety with just a bump in airbag number. I have no idea how they passed this on emissions (tho that dpf burn button is something all dpf equipped cars shoould have) but honestly regular old cars should also be available that have achieved this legendary status not just off roads.

    • @timwalton3443
      @timwalton3443 3 года назад +1

      Oh, there's no doubt there. I have an '07 single cab Cruiser and even though it's a bit rough around the edges, and has a few too many rattles, I know it's going to start every morning and get me where I need to be, even if it isn't in 5 star comfort

  • @gmultimedio
    @gmultimedio 2 года назад

    I own a 1987 70 Series Land Cruiser. It just run, and run, and run, and run, and run. Simple, reliable, and they can´t be destroyed!

  • @ivaylovitanov9389
    @ivaylovitanov9389 2 года назад

    100% These cars should still exist even today, 100 % love them! This is a legendary car!

  • @dinter4321
    @dinter4321 3 года назад +17

    Very awesome!!! I might be an outlier but for me would be nice if they kept up to date with some known reliable safety features eg modern airbags systems, 3 point rear centre seatbelt, reversing sensors. Just little things that don’t impact on the foundation of the car but improves owner crash safety.

  • @ozemsadventureofrandomstuf252
    @ozemsadventureofrandomstuf252 3 года назад +4

    Dude 1700 views in hour! Well done. Great review

  • @valtraone
    @valtraone 3 года назад +45

    Regrettably this may be the last of it's kind - a vehicle that YOU are totally in control of, rather than it controls you, like most modern offerings. The absence of trinkets and gizmos is another great plus.
    Sadly not available in the UK.

    • @nikchris69
      @nikchris69 3 года назад

      How old are you? 70?

    • @valtraone
      @valtraone 3 года назад +8

      Oh to be 70 again

    • @harveysmith100
      @harveysmith100 3 года назад

      I have one in the UK, it's a 1991 Prado version. There is a Japanese import on Ebay at the moment for £10k

    • @davidmjames6793
      @davidmjames6793 3 года назад +1

      @@valtraone hahaha

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm 3 года назад

      New Jimmy is though 😉.

  • @fourocker
    @fourocker 3 месяца назад

    Yes, a vehicle like this should always exist, kudos to Toyota for having the balls to continue to provide it.....personally I love my 80 series and really don't want something newer, except maybe one of these ❤

  • @justinmcfarland7874
    @justinmcfarland7874 2 года назад

    I have a 2017 76, bought new, amazing, you have to love these things , like an interesting experiment in life