So here's the trick: pause when thumbnails hide the results (the numbers come up behind after the thumbnails), then move the curser to midway through the video (between the thumbnails), and click to resume, then the 6 - 6 result appears momentarily.
I ordered a 2.8 litre 79 yesterday. And I'm coming from a V8 Troopy. That little 2.8 is a killer, especially in Power/Haul mode. I don't care if it only lasts 300,000Kms instead of the V8's 500,000Kms (wild, uneducated guesses in both cases) because It'll take me 10 or 12 years to get to 300,000Kms and I'll want a newer car by then. Anyway - the 2.8 might last as long as the V8, time will tell.
My 2010 v8 79 is still in stock form except for 33's, 2" lift, intercooler fans and exhaust, now with over 400k on the clock. That's all I'll need with the new 2.8 coming in mid next month. I will miss that thong slapping sound. Misses won't hear me rumbling through the hills before arriving home.
Don't worry mate 2.8 been kicking around for 9 years now ... my old hilux is 2016 model and sold it to my brother inlaw and now he's towing 2.4 t caravan still .
My 1kd Prado has well over 220k on the clock and has outlived my uncles troopy vdj which detonated at 130k….impossible to compare the exact same vehicle over its life.
great answer. always hear people saying im buying this as my forever car... hahaha I dont think thats possible in this modern day. people have consumerism built into them. and things just are not built to last forever any more.
@@Rob.Salta90 I call bullshit on that... You don't think Toyota's budget is big enough ta pay for all those reviews...I should know I own both... The 1vd shits on the gd every day of the week and like I said I own both!!
Ronny is a RUclips pro hiding the results behind the “watch next” cards like that… classic irony. Nice one, Ronny: especially after building up to the scores the whole video. Got us. 😂
Hey mate, both scores at the end were obscured by the two video links 😂 what were the scores?? Great video btw. Rooting for the new LC, Im over a lifetime of manual offroading. I think its time to moved on to the new LC 👍
A basic search of RUclips will yield a plethora of results of 100 % standard latest model 70 series 2.8 vs 4.5. In particular, refer to the Auto Expert tow test video that uses a dynometer to control and test towing parameters of each. And yes the 2.8 wins.
Good results. I know everyone will point out the obvious that the V8 has 35s vs 33s on the 2.8. They will also point out the canopy and bar work weight. But please know that V8 is not only tuned like Rohnis, with big exhaust and 4” snorkel, it also has a larger hiflow aftermarket turbo and large intercooler. 2.8 still standard power lol.
@@gamebredduramax71the 2.8 has been around for 9 years and there are far more of them kicking round pulling big caravans than the v8. People hated the v8 when it came and it issues burning oil and it still has issues with dust ingest causing plenty of failures. The v8 is nothing special.
@@m5wm6w look, sadly Toyota is leaning in on the planned obsolescence tactics of the rest of the car industries, they used to build them to see how long they could last and we had over built beast of vehicles, now these manufacturers are battling the governments over stringent emissions and other regulations in order for them to remain profitable they have to turn more vehicles and to do that they can’t be lasting 10 and 20 years no more.
Great to see Torbs back on the channel. I think the writing is on the wall for the V8. Toyota will only improve power, torque, economy & emissions with the 4-pot as time goes on. The only thing that will be missing from the 2.8 is that awesome exhaust note.
So let’s put my GX 200 series which at the time of purchase cost the same as the 76 2.8l. It has the auto factory and the V8 turbo diesel, albeit with an extra turbo. Let’s see how they compare…
Hey mate love your channel. In the UAE we still get the V6 4.0L version (4.0L, V6, 24-VALVE DOHC VVT-I). You reckon this will be a good buy or wait for the 2.8L (if it ever comes here)? The main thing I will be using it for desert camping (so desert sand driving)
The 3.3 probably costs 5 times as much as the 2.8. It takes a few seconds to fully turn off the traction control. Press and hold but I think you need to be stationary.
Four cylinder is great but if im in the middle of nowhere and its 50 degrees id rather be in low pressure V8 than high pressure four cylinder. Maybe a mechanic can correct me about that, but ill take some convincing.
we run the 4 cyl Hilux's in the Pilbara. At 4pm in the middle of Feb on a 48 degree day the ground will be around 70-74 degrees. We've never had an issue with the heat - blows me away that machines operate in that heat!! Been in the Pilbara for 20 yrs, the 4 cylinders have been bullet proof for us.
20k+ for wholesale auto conversion on top of his V8 which already has a upgraded larger bolt on turbo, larger intercooler, pipework, exhaust, air box, snorkel, tune, clutch. All that against standard 2.8 👌🏽
The point is it’s got nothing to do with the engine and everything to do with auto vs manual. I didn’t mention cost of after market changes, I was just pointing out a fact.
exactly.... stock they have the same power, so basically no difference. take away the auto and it's the same except the 4cyl is cheaper to do injectors and wear out faster. when you modify them the v8 will take 20psi extra boost and the 4cyl wont.
I still believe the most obvious thing to point out is the weight between the two. Yes the 76 is holding its own at this time in the current configuration. Add some more weight and I'm sure that will drastically change it. Put simple I am sure it will be great as a Light Weight Tourer, but as a Heavy Weight Tourer I suspect it's going to struggle. Now to get back to the V8 or I4. If you like the V8 and prefer the Home on Wheel then stick with that. If the Wife is thinking of going to something else from whatever she has then see what she thinks. Perhaps the 76 will fit what she wants and needs. That's my input for you Ronny
But hang on torbs said the iconic 70 series is v8 but the iconic 70 series original came with a 4 cylinder 2l turbo, the 1kz 4 cylinder, the 13b-t, then a couple ov versions of straight 5 cylinder engines followed by the iconic straight 6 engines then the v8. Now back to 4 cylinder. Yes the v8 might be great but the true icon of the 70 series is the straight 6
I have a Troopcarrier 2.8 you can turn the traction control off manually a short press of the button a long press 3 seconds will disable TRC/A-TRC and VSC systems
@@Ronny_Dahl My previous HILUX was the same on anything but sand I would leave the traction control on I got caught out just as you did more often than I like to admit regards Mike
Yes the 4 cylinder seems to cut the mustard but I’m a traditionalist. If you were into American muscle cars, would you buy a V8 Mustang for that sound or the 4 cylinder? Just a question. Good review you did.
In the 200, if you hold down the traction control button for five seconds while the car is stationary, you can turn off the system. It is worth trying in the 70.
its more fun than serious but great to see how it tags along ;) nice to follow how ronny gains experience on it so he can tell at the end. vehicles are always individual decisions. cheers!
I think the auto transmission played more of a role than what people give it credit for. If Toyota had paired an auto with the V8, the conversations would be different. But ultimately its a sales call for Toyota and we're just seeing the consumer justification for moving away from the V8 engine. I believe a channel (TJ and Mac) is tuning the ZF 8 speed with 70 series. There are others as well. Compare the 2,8L with a V8 with auto.
I'd like to see some more work done to the 76, Give it a tune and 3inch. Those 2.8 sound ok for a turbo diesel 4. also would like to know if the tracking issue on the rear has been fixed since no longer wide v8. Also in regards to the Auto vs Manual having had both on the sand the auto is far greater.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it has a redesigned steel sump for oil pickup, redesigned auto cooler, same 70 series transfer box, different diff ratios.
Engine: Added Balance shaft Water to air intercooler Larger sump Different sump oil pick up Different pully Larger radiator Larger fan Gearbox: Gearbox has a different larger capacity and forged sump cover Also breather that’s also mounted up high. Diff rations are 4.3s
@@simmo6035 I'm sure they did, I'm just pointing out that beach driving is a terrible way of comparing 4x4 ability coz you don't even need a 4x4 to do it.
Do you need to reprogram the ecu in these to recalibrate the speedo and shift points for the auto? Not sure how the auto 70 series setup, but this is a common task in other vehicles that can really make a difference as you go up in tire size.
Auto all theway :-) they're so much easier in the sand and slow stuff... My Pajero sport has done the Yaegerup trip twice and only once got stuck once on the way up Callcup hiil (8spd auto, stock suspension on 32.6 inch tryes 265/70r17)
As a gear head for as long as I can remember, I would have to go, the 4cyl. I like the technology and I like V8's that actually sound good 😉 Disclaimer. To be fair a completely stock exhaust on the 1VD sounds ok.
Ronny. Please do a stock 2.8 vs v8 drag race to 100kph, towing a trailer. Just keep adding weight till the v8 wins. Surely it will take over, even with a manual.
What to say? all depends on driver‘s skills and some luck. V8 or 4 Cylinder does not play a major role, automatic gives definitely some more luxury for driving and avoids mistakes of chosen gear. Time will tell us how long the automatic gear box and the 4 cyl engine will last, both definitely running closer to their limits than in a stock or moderate tuned V8.
Ronny why did you always go for the steely instead of alloys? 320 Method race wheel/rim matte black MR32078550500 do look like a stelly. I love this type of alloy rims and not the one with 8 to 10 spoke like wheels. In my humble opinion.
I'm writing you from the top of the Yeagarup exit. Did it in my fully laded 76series from 2021 lowrange 3rd 33'muddy 8/15psi, from the middle section. 16psi was far too high
The elephant in the room for me is autos can't be jump started, you can't roll down a hill to get it going. Battery and starter failure is pretty common. Autos can really leave you without options...
I guess its just nice to have a choice....as a person that loves the sounds of a V8 makes it hard when pretty much everything with the 2.8 auto just makes sence especially for touring...i would rather the economy the quite and the relaxing drive of an auto any day when smashing kms..at least you can have a conversation in the 2.8 doing 100km
Not sure what my next 4wd is going to be but I do know one thing. I am keeping it as close to stock as I can and I am not bolting on all the heavy shit. If I get a bullbar for Roos, it will be Alloy. I will be applying the KISS principle. Who knows, the way the current Government is going to tax us for not having electric, I may never get another 4wd which is concerning. Good clip Ronny.
The tissue boxes out again for V8 Landcruiser owners. looking at the. 2.8 wining hands down is this future for Toyota.....interesting i will still stick with my 1hz half million km 80 not wanting to own either the new 76 2.8 or 79 v8
I think the 4cyl is a great option for some, but how is this even close to a comparison due to the massive weight etc differences. Good for the views I suppose
Hi Ronny great to see these tests. I would also like to suggest to have a look at comparing the mahindra pick up truck with the 79 series 4 cylinder since they are both very similar agriculture vehicles. Better yet if you could do a build series with one adding your twist on modifications which will be interesting to see and compare since both vehicles have a large difference in price. Cheers from Sri Lanka!
Hey Ronny I’m wondering what you thing they will do after the v8 is finished in terms of a manual. Do you thing they will start offering the 1gd with the 6 speed hilux manual because I can imagine no everyone will want an auto even if the 2.8 is good with the auto
The capability of the new 2.8 is certainly a surprise to me at least but I don't think I'm quite ready to shelve the V8 just yet, just the sound alone is adequate compensation for the extra fuel the V8 uses and an auto gearbox does not hold much appeal to me either.
Seems like there may have been a little driver error involved with this test. The new 70 is still surprisingly good no matter what way you look at it, still not sure if I want one though. Longevity just can’t be tested anytime soon hey. Thanks for giving it a crack, good video.
I thought when you said you were gona load both vehicles up, I assumed you were going to load them up with equal cargo/weights.. The 2.8 looked empty to me..
While the V8 sounds good I feel if you want to hear that noise go to the race track. From someone that used to live on a main road listening to people gunning their V8 and modified Diesel 4wds was bloody annoying. Hearing all this noise but they still aren't going fast. Same applies when you go for a relaxing camp in the bush and hear the clowns limiter bashing their rigs. Honestly the 4cyl actually seems pretty good and yes IM sure you will get clowns modifying their exhaust systems still but over all it seems to be holding it's own against the big V8 plus it is cheaper, probably lighter, not as thirsty etc etc.
Hey mate, love your content. Have learned heaps! Would you ever modify a Mahindra pickup? Hear they're good, not good looking, but it could be a lot of smoke. Figured you'd be the guy to pressure test it proper. All the best mate
No wiser what the results were since they were covered by the thumbnails of past videos……🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️😂
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Cheers, saved me 15min
I hate those bloody thumbnails everyone puts on the end of the videos. Ruins the finish. And agree, I couldn't see the final score either.
I think that was on purpose.
So here's the trick: pause when thumbnails hide the results (the numbers come up behind after the thumbnails), then move the curser to midway through the video (between the thumbnails), and click to resume, then the 6 - 6 result appears momentarily.
I ordered a 2.8 litre 79 yesterday. And I'm coming from a V8 Troopy. That little 2.8 is a killer, especially in Power/Haul mode. I don't care if it only lasts 300,000Kms instead of the V8's 500,000Kms (wild, uneducated guesses in both cases) because It'll take me 10 or 12 years to get to 300,000Kms and I'll want a newer car by then. Anyway - the 2.8 might last as long as the V8, time will tell.
My 2010 v8 79 is still in stock form except for 33's, 2" lift, intercooler fans and exhaust, now with over 400k on the clock. That's all I'll need with the new 2.8 coming in mid next month. I will miss that thong slapping sound. Misses won't hear me rumbling through the hills before arriving home.
Don't worry mate 2.8 been kicking around for 9 years now ... my old hilux is 2016 model and sold it to my brother inlaw and now he's towing 2.4 t caravan still .
My 1kd Prado has well over 220k on the clock and has outlived my uncles troopy vdj which detonated at 130k….impossible to compare the exact same vehicle over its life.
great answer. always hear people saying im buying this as my forever car... hahaha I dont think thats possible in this modern day. people have consumerism built into them. and things just are not built to last forever any more.
Plenty of hiluxes and prados with the 2.8 on much higher than 300,000kms 😄
I would give the 'Low Range Speed Test" Win to the 2.8 (Less is Best (AfterAll It's why SomePeople fit ReductionGears))
Yep the lower the better in my book
Yeah I didn't understand that. Isn't the bigger the reduction the better. Better control at slow speed. Isn't that what you're after?
Looks like Toyota did their homework . The 2.8 is doing a lot better than one wants to admit loudly.
More likely Toyota paying Ronny to say nice things i'd say
Bullshit Andrew. He isn’t the only one saying good things.
The reality is aside from sound the V8 is worse in every single aspect.
@@Rob.Salta90 I call bullshit on that... You don't think Toyota's budget is big enough ta pay for all those reviews...I should know I own both... The 1vd shits on the gd every day of the week and like I said I own both!!
@@andrewsouvertjis9309 so you haven’t driven a 2.8 70 series to compare?
@@andrewsouvertjis9309 everyone is paid, nothing is true in the internet, ford is paying you i reckon
Ronny is a RUclips pro hiding the results behind the “watch next” cards like that… classic irony. Nice one, Ronny: especially after building up to the scores the whole video. Got us. 😂
Hey mate, both scores at the end were obscured by the two video links 😂 what were the scores??
Great video btw. Rooting for the new LC, Im over a lifetime of manual offroading. I think its time to moved on to the new LC 👍
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So good to see Torb's back! Like a genuinely good fit on screen with you Ronny.
A basic search of RUclips will yield a plethora of results of 100 % standard latest model 70 series 2.8 vs 4.5. In particular, refer to the Auto Expert tow test video that uses a dynometer to control and test towing parameters of each.
And yes the 2.8 wins.
To me the most Iconic 70 is not the V8 but the HDFTE. That straight six was amazing.
I agree with that.
Amen
1HZ baby! Wish it could get the 2.8 fuel economy tho, that thing chugs fuel like there is no tommorow.
@@BonzoSAiweLsaebn Yeah another legend
Yeeah, those 1HD / 1HZ big end bearings that disintegrate after 300k km are amazing.
I think the short gearing and the new water-cooled intercooler are a big win factor over the Hilux.
Not fair contest, they’re different colours
Glad to see Torbs and Little Bear. I missed his laugh, really thought the salt lakes were the end of his appearances.
Thanks champ
I'll still be joining the occasional trip as a guest
Good results. I know everyone will point out the obvious that the V8 has 35s vs 33s on the 2.8. They will also point out the canopy and bar work weight.
But please know that V8 is not only tuned like Rohnis, with big exhaust and 4” snorkel, it also has a larger hiflow aftermarket turbo and large intercooler.
2.8 still standard power lol.
Since when V8 needs excuses
As it stands the V8 is still the proven reliable unit. Chances are the new one won’t last as long
@@gamebredduramax71 And that's the gist of it. My guess is that the V8 will outlast the 2.8.
@@gamebredduramax71the 2.8 has been around for 9 years and there are far more of them kicking round pulling big caravans than the v8. People hated the v8 when it came and it issues burning oil and it still has issues with dust ingest causing plenty of failures. The v8 is nothing special.
@@m5wm6w look, sadly Toyota is leaning in on the planned obsolescence tactics of the rest of the car industries, they used to build them to see how long they could last and we had over built beast of vehicles, now these manufacturers are battling the governments over stringent emissions and other regulations in order for them to remain profitable they have to turn more vehicles and to do that they can’t be lasting 10 and 20 years no more.
"It was like driving an electric car for a minute..."
Thems fightin' words! Lol
I couldn't see the final score because the adds for other episodes was in the way... :)
Same here, came her to see if someone else had this problem!
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Got a solution for you blokes. Just get a 200 series. Sound power and torque of the v8 with ease of the auto 😂
Blokes ?really mate😂
Great to see Torbs back on the channel.
I think the writing is on the wall for the V8. Toyota will only improve power, torque, economy & emissions with the 4-pot as time goes on. The only thing that will be missing from the 2.8 is that awesome exhaust note.
Great shakedown Ronney. Awesome to see ya back on channel Torbes👍
That lighter engine up front probably helps with the push back on those hills
So let’s put my GX 200 series which at the time of purchase cost the same as the 76 2.8l. It has the auto factory and the V8 turbo diesel, albeit with an extra turbo. Let’s see how they compare…
Still prefer the V8 manual if i was to ever buy one. But Patrol coily ute Td42ti beats them all Lol.
Hey mate love your channel. In the UAE we still get the V6 4.0L version (4.0L, V6, 24-VALVE DOHC VVT-I). You reckon this will be a good buy or wait for the 2.8L (if it ever comes here)? The main thing I will be using it for desert camping (so desert sand driving)
The V6 is waaay better for desert work, only positive to the 2.8 is fuel economy otherwise the v6 has more power and is good for 300,000+kms
If only the 2.8L inline 4 didn't have a disfunctional traction control system, but still would prefer the 3.3L V6 from the 300 series.
Good old oil burner 6 cylinder. They’re having issues with it hence I reckon it was never used.
The 3.3 probably costs 5 times as much as the 2.8. It takes a few seconds to fully turn off the traction control. Press and hold but I think you need to be stationary.
bleh v6 stinky! Inline engines all the way.
Toyota traction control system is amazing, the only dysfunctional thing about it is someone who doesn’t know when to and when not to use it.
@@simmo6035If Ronny didn't bother to turn off the traction control after he started the 2.8L up then the egg is on his face.
Four cylinder is great but if im in the middle of nowhere and its 50 degrees id rather be in low pressure V8 than high pressure four cylinder. Maybe a mechanic can correct me about that, but ill take some convincing.
we run the 4 cyl Hilux's in the Pilbara. At 4pm in the middle of Feb on a 48 degree day the ground will be around 70-74 degrees. We've never had an issue with the heat - blows me away that machines operate in that heat!! Been in the Pilbara for 20 yrs, the 4 cylinders have been bullet proof for us.
@@chrisandshazza01 Hope it stays good for you.
@user-uc8zo6be5x you don't need to, just push it, it will start without starter motor but 4 cylinder will not start
This was just an auto vs Manual comparison. Get a wholesale automatic auto converted 70 and see what happens.
20k+ for wholesale auto conversion on top of his V8 which already has a upgraded larger bolt on turbo, larger intercooler, pipework, exhaust, air box, snorkel, tune, clutch.
All that against standard 2.8 👌🏽
The point is it’s got nothing to do with the engine and everything to do with auto vs manual. I didn’t mention cost of after market changes, I was just pointing out a fact.
exactly.... stock they have the same power, so basically no difference. take away the auto and it's the same except the 4cyl is cheaper to do injectors and wear out faster. when you modify them the v8 will take 20psi extra boost and the 4cyl wont.
In high range maybe the traction control can be fully turned off with a 5second press of the button?
You can pull a fuse on the 120 Prado d4d to disable it, I was wondering if you can do similar with this one (?)
Yes, you can.
You need to be stationary though.
well done putting the cards directly over the results...
I still believe the most obvious thing to point out is the weight between the two. Yes the 76 is holding its own at this time in the current configuration. Add some more weight and I'm sure that will drastically change it.
Put simple I am sure it will be great as a Light Weight Tourer, but as a Heavy Weight Tourer I suspect it's going to struggle.
Now to get back to the V8 or I4. If you like the V8 and prefer the Home on Wheel then stick with that. If the Wife is thinking of going to something else from whatever she has then see what she thinks. Perhaps the 76 will fit what she wants and needs.
That's my input for you Ronny
Equal comparison required. Get a V8 76, same tyres, same weight. True results then.
Hi Ronny, have you fitted wheel spacers to the rear of the 2.8 76?
A lot of the results were driver error and not really the car, but it was still fun to see
"She be right mate....Only one owner" 😂😂😂😂😂 Gold
Torbs is back👍
But hang on torbs said the iconic 70 series is v8 but the iconic 70 series original came with a 4 cylinder 2l turbo, the 1kz 4 cylinder, the 13b-t, then a couple ov versions of straight 5 cylinder engines followed by the iconic straight 6 engines then the v8. Now back to 4 cylinder. Yes the v8 might be great but the true icon of the 70 series is the straight 6
I nearly spent the mkney on a ZF 8 speed auto conversion for my 79 v8. Now that would be an interesting comparison
I have a Troopcarrier 2.8 you can turn the traction control off manually a short press of the button a long press 3 seconds will disable TRC/A-TRC and VSC systems
You have to be sitting still to do that, I was in motion committed to the hill climb would have cost a fail if I stopped to turn it off
@@Ronny_Dahl My previous HILUX was the same on anything but sand I would leave the traction control on I got caught out just as you did more often than I like to admit regards Mike
Yes the 4 cylinder seems to cut the mustard but I’m a traditionalist. If you were into American muscle cars, would you buy a V8 Mustang for that sound or the 4 cylinder? Just a question. Good review you did.
The 2.8 land cruiser runs hot when towing and sand driving. Each cylinder working double the rate to put out the same power as the V8.
Great to see Torben ❤
In the 200, if you hold down the traction control button for five seconds while the car is stationary, you can turn off the system. It is worth trying in the 70.
its more fun than serious but great to see how it tags along ;) nice to follow how ronny gains experience on it so he can tell at the end. vehicles are always individual decisions. cheers!
I think the auto transmission played more of a role than what people give it credit for. If Toyota had paired an auto with the V8, the conversations would be different. But ultimately its a sales call for Toyota and we're just seeing the consumer justification for moving away from the V8 engine. I believe a channel (TJ and Mac) is tuning the ZF 8 speed with 70 series. There are others as well. Compare the 2,8L with a V8 with auto.
Nice to see you keeping it calm and balanced, not all emotional ranting.
😂😂😂
I'd like to see some more work done to the 76, Give it a tune and 3inch. Those 2.8 sound ok for a turbo diesel 4. also would like to know if the tracking issue on the rear has been fixed since no longer wide v8. Also in regards to the Auto vs Manual having had both on the sand the auto is far greater.
What's the difference between the 70 series 2.8 & the 2.8 in the Hilux?
The gearing seems to be shorter in the LC.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it has a redesigned steel sump for oil pickup, redesigned auto cooler, same 70 series transfer box, different diff ratios.
Correct on all accounts
Engine:
Added Balance shaft
Water to air intercooler
Larger sump
Different sump oil pick up
Different pully
Larger radiator
Larger fan
Gearbox:
Gearbox has a different larger capacity and forged sump cover
Also breather that’s also mounted up high.
Diff rations are 4.3s
A ln106 is cool now
Yes Ronny that auto would make a big difference on the sand as it seem to do things easy once you know how to drive it .
What would your thoughts be on the 2.8 if they were to put the six speed manual behind it? Improvement or does the auto suit the 2.8 more?
what are the weights of each car?
tyre brand and size?
new or old?
are they standard?
tyre pressure?
Sand driving doesn't require four-wheel drive just low tyre pressures and an automatic
You think Ronny and torbs didn't have their tyres pressures down?
@@simmo6035 I'm sure they did, I'm just pointing out that beach driving is a terrible way of comparing 4x4 ability coz you don't even need a 4x4 to do it.
Do you need to reprogram the ecu in these to recalibrate the speedo and shift points for the auto? Not sure how the auto 70 series setup, but this is a common task in other vehicles that can really make a difference as you go up in tire size.
Hold down the traction control off button for like 5 to 10 seconds and it will be completely turned off?
I don't know about the Landcruisers but on the Navara's you can just pull the fuse for the traction control.
Auto all theway :-) they're so much easier in the sand and slow stuff... My Pajero sport has done the Yaegerup trip twice and only once got stuck once on the way up Callcup hiil (8spd auto, stock suspension on 32.6 inch tryes 265/70r17)
As a gear head for as long as I can remember, I would have to go, the 4cyl. I like the technology and I like V8's that actually sound good 😉
Disclaimer. To be fair a completely stock exhaust on the 1VD sounds ok.
Great comparison video, great to see Torb's and great to see him eating a little portion of humble pie.
Ronny. Please do a stock 2.8 vs v8 drag race to 100kph, towing a trailer. Just keep adding weight till the v8 wins. Surely it will take over, even with a manual.
So good to see Torbs back.. even if it is just random appearances :)
What to say? all depends on driver‘s skills and some luck. V8 or 4 Cylinder does not play a major role, automatic gives definitely some more luxury for driving and avoids mistakes of chosen gear. Time will tell us how long the automatic gear box and the 4 cyl engine will last, both definitely running closer to their limits than in a stock or moderate tuned V8.
Lovely Ep and 4wds guys. When I was 20 to 40 I loved a V8 bark. but now I am nearly 60 I hate it, 2,8lt auto thanks.
Ronny why did you always go for the steely instead of alloys? 320 Method race wheel/rim matte black MR32078550500 do look like a stelly. I love this type of alloy rims and not the one with 8 to 10 spoke like wheels. In my humble opinion.
I'm writing you from the top of the Yeagarup exit. Did it in my fully laded 76series from 2021 lowrange 3rd 33'muddy 8/15psi, from the middle section. 16psi was far too high
I can't understand why you tried to conquer this hill with that speed.
What's the shield on Torbs bonnet called? where can I buy one?
😂😂 👍🏼👍🏼 2.8 auto is the best one for money saving…
The elephant in the room for me is autos can't be jump started, you can't roll down a hill to get it going. Battery and starter failure is pretty common. Autos can really leave you without options...
We need to know for comparing: same tyre sizes? Same kerbweights?
I guess its just nice to have a choice....as a person that loves the sounds of a V8 makes it hard when pretty much everything with the 2.8 auto just makes sence especially for touring...i would rather the economy the quite and the relaxing drive of an auto any day when smashing kms..at least you can have a conversation in the 2.8 doing 100km
I figure it all depends on how long you want to keep it. V8 means relatively relaxed. The little 4 is getting blood from a stone.
Not sure what my next 4wd is going to be but I do know one thing. I am keeping it as close to stock as I can and I am not bolting on all the heavy shit. If I get a bullbar for Roos, it will be Alloy. I will be applying the KISS principle. Who knows, the way the current Government is going to tax us for not having electric, I may never get another 4wd which is concerning. Good clip Ronny.
That Jimny looks sick
How much is the motor, and how much is the automatic transmission. If the V8 had an automatic transmission, would the results be the same?
The tissue boxes out again for V8 Landcruiser owners. looking at the. 2.8 wining hands down is this future for Toyota.....interesting i will still stick with my 1hz half million km 80 not wanting to own either the new 76 2.8 or 79 v8
What's with not being able to see the score at the end because they are covered with these suggestion link/thumbnails?
It's hardly a fair comparison putting a man of Torbens talents against an amateur like Ronny 😂😂😂 good to see the A Crew back together
Can’t you turn TC off like you can on the Prado?
When does Toyota do a v8 automatic model?
No tiene bloqueo de diferenciales?
Great to see Torb's back! Missed you mate!
Can't wait to find which one gets bogged on its spring hangers faster
Great to see Torbs back! Legend.
Nah, it seems like this was the last
V8 all day baby…..💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
I think the 4cyl is a great option for some, but how is this even close to a comparison due to the massive weight etc differences. Good for the views I suppose
This really shows the capability of modern automatic transmissions. They really even the score
Offer the automatic on the V8
Hi Ronny great to see these tests. I would also like to suggest to have a look at comparing the mahindra pick up truck with the 79 series 4 cylinder since they are both very similar agriculture vehicles. Better yet if you could do a build series with one adding your twist on modifications which will be interesting to see and compare since both vehicles have a large difference in price. Cheers from Sri Lanka!
Hey Ronny I’m wondering what you thing they will do after the v8 is finished in terms of a manual. Do you thing they will start offering the 1gd with the 6 speed hilux manual because I can imagine no everyone will want an auto even if the 2.8 is good with the auto
The new 79 is butt ugly, not sure what toyota were thinking on that new front end plus the new dash looks horrendous
The capability of the new 2.8 is certainly a surprise to me at least but I don't think I'm quite ready to shelve the V8 just yet, just the sound alone is adequate compensation for the extra fuel the V8 uses and an auto gearbox does not hold much appeal to me either.
Seems like there may have been a little driver error involved with this test.
The new 70 is still surprisingly good no matter what way you look at it, still not sure if I want one though. Longevity just can’t be tested anytime soon hey. Thanks for giving it a crack, good video.
Nice to see torb’s back in the channel i love you content saludos desde California
so it appears that the test isnt going to be fair without a v8 auto ?
Soooo… who won? What were the results??
I thought when you said you were gona load both vehicles up, I assumed you were going to load them up with equal cargo/weights.. The 2.8 looked empty to me..
For those who can see the scores at the end because of the "next videos templates", the scores are:
6 vs 6.
Is it illegal to run 35s on the 2.8 4cylinder LC 79?
G'day, does anyone know where to find the driver's door armrest?
On our website or the shop link running in the videos
While the V8 sounds good I feel if you want to hear that noise go to the race track. From someone that used to live on a main road listening to people gunning their V8 and modified Diesel 4wds was bloody annoying. Hearing all this noise but they still aren't going fast. Same applies when you go for a relaxing camp in the bush and hear the clowns limiter bashing their rigs. Honestly the 4cyl actually seems pretty good and yes IM sure you will get clowns modifying their exhaust systems still but over all it seems to be holding it's own against the big V8 plus it is cheaper, probably lighter, not as thirsty etc etc.
LOL "I think I left it in high range"...
Hey mate, love your content. Have learned heaps! Would you ever modify a Mahindra pickup? Hear they're good, not good looking, but it could be a lot of smoke. Figured you'd be the guy to pressure test it proper. All the best mate
I think the best answer is a V8 with the modern engineering of the 2.8
I'm sure you can turn the traction control off. The Prados can.
No replacement for displacement.