Is NVIDIA 30 Series Worth it?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- The hugely anticipated RTX 30 series cards are here! Today we will talk about all the details we were given about the new cards and whether or not they were worth it wait... or over hyped...
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A minute of silence for those who bought a 2080Ti this year.
Sorry to busy laughing.
Thank you for the silence. Built my first desktop earlier this year
Pray for them🙏🙏
I bought one two days ago...
@@adamn9662 Rip
$500 3070 can beat 2080ti
Yeah i would say its worth the wait
waiting for benchmarks.
@@sopcannon same!
@@sopcannon yeah, its gonna be 2x faster, but only with rtx on and dlss
I'm worried about the 8gb of Vram though, might end up holding it back not too far down the line.
Can't wait for next year!
AMD: *Uppercuts Intel*
Intel: *Twitching on the ground*
Nvidia: *Looks at AMD, pumps shotgun*
Nvidia: Looks at AMD, presses transmit button, "call in the air strike"
@@jacob_90s Nvidia: Jensen, get the death star.
@@spaceman_spiff2391 AMD: That's no moon.
then intel drops a bombshell?
Would be hilarious if Intel came in and dropped some crazy graphics card that shit on both of them. Won't happen, of course, but it'd be hilarious so it's fun to think about.
i love how the used market is now flushed with 2080ti `s trying to sell them at full price xDD
Nvidia: "Rtx 2080ti owner's THANX for being a tester of rtx 1.0 and dlss your service is grateful. Now buy a 3090"
@@FAHRENHEITDELIO you’re welcome bro!
Lol yeah I'm pretty disappointed myself, though I don't get why other owners feel their 2080 ti's are worth full price. When I saw the reveal I knew my own card had become worthless pretty much. I'll be surprised if I can get $400 for my card
@@johnbaron3070 same here, but it’s great that it jump so high up in performance. Just another excuse to build another PC. Not going to sell my 2080, going to be a reminder for me in the
Future.
I'm still seeing people trying to sell it at $2000+
"most people upgrade every 2 years"
*looks at my 760"
sure sure
want a 980ti? lol
I feel you mate, r9 280x her
Yeah, I consider myself a fairly serious enthusiast but even I tend to skip a generation. This last gen especially, moving from 10 series to 20 really wasn’t worth it.
me looking at my GTX770 too, haha
@@kylefleming7680 my old PC has 2x 280x....I use it as a space heater when I'm playing my 5700XT system🤣
Jay: "People usually upgrade there GPU every two years"
Me: *watching this vid on an amd hd 7570 on i5-3470.*
lol i bricked my 7970 mining bitcoins and then had the bitcoins stolen from me when mtgox went to shit
I'm still running a 2700k
Duo E8400 and 750Ti here!
Orbital Dew* I’m running a 2500k. By any chance did you overclock it?
i5 3570k and GTX 970
"is it safe to upgrade?"
*looks at overheating 980ti*
"I guess its time"
28 nm
Oh hey comrade, I'm glad I'm not alone lol
well I guess
I can finally let my second hand 960 retire
gt 710 here, upgrading to 650 ti boost
i got you beat 780 Kepler sub 1000MHz
As a developer myself, the low adoption rate of ray tracing is due to the fact that the current/first generation of RTX isn't capable of pushing the rays that we want to really impress with real time ray tracing. Titles that do use it right now do so only in limited/superfluous aspects, like providing *only* ray traced reflections on an otherwise completely non-ray traced game. It's mostly been something AAAs can tack on to ride on the RTX marketing buzz, but that will change.
Ray traced global illumination is much computationally harder to do without noise, and I know myself and others have been waiting until we're "deeper" into the technology time line so that we can add these sorts of features and have them actually usable by most people before it will be worth the effort.
With the 3000 series, I plan on getting a 3070 and finally doing some "real" ray tracing development, hopefully a game designed from the bottom up to at least incorporate high quality real time ray traced GI. That's my main concern because it has the biggest effect on the overall look of environments (watching light flood into a room through a window is really beautiful). Ray traced reflections are nice, but local reflections have filled that spot very well in the past couple years, so it hasn't been a major selling point for me yet as a developer.
So within the next 5 years, at least from small developers like me, expect to see more "from the ground up" ray traced games that were developed with ray tracing in mind as a core feature now that it will become affordable AND powerful (and engines like Unity are starting to get the bugs worked out in their DXR solutions).
“People with XX80 series cards upgrade every generation because they have money”
Me, broke, with a GTX 1080
Just say you have a GTX 1070ti Xd
My friend has the 1080 Ti paired with a ryzen 3 cpu. His family works at nvidia apparently
me broke with a gt730
isnt that 800?
Me , broke , with a GTX 780 TI
Ohhhh 1080Ti, it's an end to a beautiful friendship
Wish I had a 1080ti
1060 gang
@@nmlopqrs5767 willing to sell you mine lmao
Can I buy it from you?? 🥺
Stuck on 820m laptop!😭
@@joshb7415 yea dude some people just waste money lol
Actually release of 30 series is like first positive news of 2020!
My doctor told me I have HIV, that's positive news.
Hol' up
Not the prices tho :(
@@ayitzty the prices are pretty good actually, and the 3060 will be even better
Gabbisan I believe u mean 3070 and maybe I’m just jealous cuz I just bought a 2060 2 months ago without knowing the new gen cards were coming out soon :(
Cpus: amd beats intel for less price
Gpu's: nvidia beats nvidia for less price
That isn't how it's suppose to be! F for recent 2080ti buyers.
@@MrNuckingFuts i want to die
But now, Intel beats AMD in games for less price.
Actually as a gamer I like intel more with F series cpus
You guys are fools tho, $499 for a 3070 is the exact same MSRP as the 2070 launched with. Back then it was too much but now it's not?
Is $499 still not $499?
15:40
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Jay: Are you excited... are you disappointed?
Me: I'm broke, Jay.
Word.
Amen brotha
You know what I got for christmas this year? It was a banner year at the old Bender family. I got a used 2060 Super. The old man grabbed me and said "Hey, git gud Johnny!"
ok
I feel you
I ignored all the "Dont build a new PC right now" videos back in April & now I'm regretting it.
Shame shame shame shame shame
I'm fine cuz i used an igpu since i didn't have enough budget at the time :P
Yep haha. These guys get info long before we do too.* Heed the warnings.
*Edit: (Some other commenters pointed out that my comment didn't paint the full picture.) Embargoed info is only one part of Jay's very important warnings not to purchase various components a few short months ago. The main draw, for myself and countless others, to relying on reviews and advice from professionals like Jay (and many other hardware and software review professionals) is their proficiency in analyzing and disseminating accurate and proven trustworthy information.
Cheers to @Danyal Reyaz and @Ahmet Güler for pointing out my confusimg comment, I would have done the same thing.
Same, im sad
just wait the rtx 4000 to build again no problem
Jay: "People usually upgrade there GPU every two years"
Me: *watching this video on a 8 year old Alienware Laptop*
Me: *watching this video on a Nokia 3310*
Laughs in 6 core x58 and 980 ti. 😂
Me: Reading this comment on an Alienware X51 R2 with a Nvidia 1060 super in it XD
Will be a while before I upgrade my second hand 1080ti, it’s not struggling at the res I play at
Me watching on 12 year old laptop
Me looking to my 960: Hey, it has been a heck of a ride...
Same shit here
@Bluescot Videos I have Intel HD 4600.
@@keyo7161 I have an Intel HD 2000
Smiles at my r9 270, first discreet I was able to afford
GTX 950 here. I'm gonna finally retire this bad boi and go for the 3070 I think xD
"most people upgrade every 2 years"
me sitting here with components all from 6 years ago
7 years for me. GTX 780 to RTX 2080 Super
'Most people (in this extremely self-selecting enthusiast group) upgrade every 2 years'
Jim Norton's Alcoholism I wish I ran a graphics card LMFAO. I am saving up, will probably do a whole setup makoever around Christmas.
4690k and r9 280 here but I probably getting a beastly upgrade by 2021
980 Ti held strong now looking at that 3090
My 780 died 20 min before the event. I think I'm being told something.
Died? wdym?
My 750 ti is still alive and kicking! Did you just cook a barbecue near your running 780 or something?
Right? My 780ti died 5 days before the event though, so you got lucky.
@@laos85 750 ti is a low end card. I wouldn't worry. 780 and 780 ti's are dropping like flies mine died about 4 months ago.
your told to get something before the new cards are available...
looks like my 1080ti will finally be upgraded. But i will wait for Jayz benchmarks first :)
Same here, but the Digital Foundry guys already put out a performance overview with their hands on of the 3080 and their results look pretty awesome.
Same, gonna try to swap it for the 3080
Estonianrebel is the 3090 worth it for the performance boost over the 3080?
Same.. I got card envy when everyone got the RTXs.. now I’m happy I waited 😁
1080--> 3080 for me :)
Here I was waiting for the 3000-serie to come out so I could "steal" a 2070/2080 card. Oh boy Im skipping the entire 2000 lineup and heads straight to 3070
Your point still stands true, people are now going to buy 2070's and 2080's because they cant afford the extra 100 or 200 dollars. the 2070 will still be worth 400 give or take.
I'm gonna go for the 3080 Hopefully. I was go for a 2070 super right before they announced the 3k series
Fallen Gremory same
Now you’re not 11 months later with this gold rush haha
*me watching nvidia event*
GTX1070:" my time has come right?"
ME:" yes, yes its time"
same bro
Same, Jumping to the 3070, Its going to feel amazing
@@SaltyDerps Yeah 3070 seems to be the best upgrade option for me aswell! Rly happy with todays nvidia announcement.
God I don’t look forward to selling my old gpu for pennies on the dollar, the used market is gonna be absolutely fucked
tis was a good servant , but time for 3080 now
JayZ: "If you have a 1080, the 3070 is like, obviously the card for you."
Me: _DROOLS_
My 1080: _Sweats from fear_
My 2060 which is outperformed by your 1080 by 10% is probably even more afraid of replacement.
@@lunartigersora4690 same, Idk if we should make the change tho
My 1080 feels the same way.
I want the 3080 tho... my 1080 is safe with my 6700k 😂. #4950xDreams
@@zboy365 ROG Strix 1080 Ti with 6700k here. Of course I want to upgrade, but there is really no need to. I'm still gonna do it.
"Most people upgrade their GPU every two years"
No.
Im still rocking the GTX 1080ti
You don't think so? I do.
@@xiiBuzzinx cries in GT 730 T........T
Mafaktea *cries in gt 620*
Well I am still on Kepler...
8:15 Performance per dollar has INCREASED across the board ... Dollar per frame has DECREASED
Finally
3070 is the most budget friendly “high end” card
What about the 3060 or 3050?
Thought they're still a while away.
3070-----> Next order for me ...
gdsergio_ wait, there’s gonna be a 3050?
@@rolen1684 If there is then it will be out around november maybe december.
Rolen very muh doubt it, unless they are gonna destroy AMD at budget cards as well as top tier.
Everyone: saying they are gonna replace their 1070s and/or 1080s
Me: *looks at 1050 ti* "Just get me 30 fps a little longer and you can rest"
But all jokes aside, this launch is looking very promising for all
It's prime time to try to get some money and upgrade bro, I see 1660 ti's for 160 on offer up
Bruh I got an mx150, gtx 1030 equivalent (I think). Its time to build my first PC.
lmao i see people saying theyre gonna replace their 2080 ti's meanwhile im waiting for the 30 series to upgrade my gtx 660 smh
My overclocked gtx 970 has been begging me for years to let it retire.
Me with my 940mx "as long as it lives it works lol"
Imagine: someone has a 2080ti and upgrades to a 3070 lol
upgrade for saving $700 or more :)
I have a rog strix 2080ti and I'm fully planning on working overtime as much as I can to get the 3090 even faster lol
@@codylabelle248 same hahah
Cody Labelle wanna sell me your for 100$?
Im Eternal it’s gonna atleast be 300-400 after the 3000 series launches
I cannot imagine most people upgrading their graphicscard after 2 years.
it doesnt have to be like 1050 to an rtx 2080ti. maybe theyd want to upgrade to the new cheapest card. like for example a 1050 to a 2060
@@w00vz11 He's way off on this. A lot of this data would be proprietary or 3P from a firm like Nielsen. There's no way that even half of consumers who own an enthusiast graphics card in a desktop PC are upgrading every 2 years or every generation. That's a pretty out of touch thing to say. We're in the hobby of PC gaming, not donating money to nVidia every 2 years lol. I think a lot of people buy a graphics card and don't upgrade until they:
1) notice that new games aren't running at framerates they want
2) their card dies
3) they build a new system
4) a game like MSFS2020 comes out (subset of 1 and 3)
I don't know where he's getting those numbers from but I've still got a 6-year-old 980 here.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri true, alot of people who buy the top of the line cards do it to save money on upgrading
Most def not most but I sure do and it’s time to upgrade baby!!!
Can we thank AMD for scaring NVIDIA enough to give us a price cut
I will still wait to see what Big Navi delivers before I go for a 3070.
AMD have my support just for the effect they have had on the pc market. Intel and Nvidia have been coasting for years
Ye, from the leaks amd seems really promising this time
Yes 3070 and 3080 look like a very good deal.
I will wait for Big Navi too, and I hope that there will be good drivers right after the launch, not after one year!
@@Failzz8 What leaks?LOL
Yes thank you AMD!!
Got to watch this live. Literally gasped out loud when the 3070 had the release price of a 2070s with the power of a 2080ti
i'm still very surprised. still waiting till after reviews though just in case they do a amd and its disappointing.
Michael Wemyss agreed, but Nvidia is extremely consistent with their drivers and card performance so I’m confident in these 30xx cards
@@filmboy18 yep, time to get rid of 5700.
Cleaning up my Stirx 2070 right now to get it ready for market and make room for a 3070!!
saashaa51 yeah I gotta do the same with my rx580. I literally just finished my build in May too. But my old laptop was dying and overheating so I literally couldn’t wait any longer. And by overheating I mean 75 idle and 101 max
Price Summary:
The 3070 releases in October at $499
The 3080 Releases September 17th at $699
The 3090 releases September 24th at $1,499
No 3060 announced
I wish there is a rtx 3060
damn i was waiting for the 3060 but ig ill get a 2070 or 2060 depending how much the price will drop
Because 3060 would have killed the 2000 lineup
the 3060 and 3050 gonna happen to try and get the money from any AMD low-end buyers if AMD fails to have an answer to this.
Nvidia KNOWS that it's ONLY chance to keep going with how Intel, AMD, Consoles, and any other contender that may enter the GPU/gaming market in the next few years.
in norway 3070 starts at $700, 3080 starts at $987, 3090 starts at $2100... and that is founders edition versions, imagine the asus/msi/evga ect cards. prices are still very pricey.
"The bottom 10% of people will upgrade their cards every 5 years" - looks at my GTX 650 Ti... yea I really need a new rig.
Yea he got those numbers out of his ars. I would say 5% of people upgrade every year. 10% every 2 years. And most people upgrade 3 to 5 years in general.
GTX 660 Ti here,,,same boat
I have just upgraded from 6 years old 560ti to 1660 super cuz I'm poor and cant aford more then 200 fo PC upgrade but I will buy 3060 or 70 in 3-4 years form now for hopefully $200 again.
Wow finally someone who has a slower card than me. Your still have faster ram and a better CPU though. 750TI here.
lol I'm also using 650 Ti
I love that jay explains everything so well so that someone like me that doesn’t know too much about tech yet can understand as well.❤️
Sees 30 series cards
Looks at my 960m
960m: *sweating intensifies*
Yeah my GTX 960 is nervous right now
Keon Osborne exact same situation right now
Legit laughing out loud!
Imagine my GTX 560's feelings
My Logic: "You don't need a new computer. Yours runs just fine."
My Wallet: "He's right you know. It's probably time to adult a bit."
My Heart: "REEEEEEEEEEE"
Fortune Cookie: "Listen to your heart."
*Well, I guess the choice is clear then.*
and this is why millenials can't have nice things
This is me, except I don't have a fortune cookie to help me.
RTX 3080: I'm the strongest
RTX 3090: Are you sure?
RTX 3070: I'm the best selling
what about 3060
@MrAlex15can but not the resell fam
I'll be building my first PC towards the end of the year. I'm definitely gonna get a 3070! 🔥
Same
Me too..👍
Same I’m starting to buy a case and shit soon I can’t wait
Man... I’m waiting on my 2070 Super to be delivered so I can send it back. I’m on my way to FedEx to return my i9-9900K and Z390 motherboard.
I’m going 10th gen with an Z490 w/PCIe 4 support.
@@B.Ch3rry no stay with 9900k its gonna be good for like 5 years tbh because amd is getting better but would take years to get to a 9900k 5.3 ghz so idk man
Jay: "People usually upgrade there GPU every two years"
Me: sitting with a 970
Same here bro, still purrs like a kitten!
It's actually better that it takes you longer, you get more out of it, you saveoney and the upgrade is huge every time you do it
went from a gtx560 to adding another in sli and now sitting on an rx480 8gb strix, patting myself on the shoulder for having such discipline and patience to wait for this years launch lol
Same here, since the 970 launch!
@@4rari89 dang, you fps will be flying. I usually skip one Gen and that is huge by itself.. Not sure if I can say no this time (I have a 2080, 2yrs old)
Sucks if you recently were dumb enough to get a 2080ti...
Then again, RIP my 2070 S. Value will PLUMMET. If you have a 9 or 10 series card then holy wow that 3070 is a no brainer.
SAME
Agreed, I felt my heart break when I saw the value of the 3070 being the same if not cheaper than my 2070 Super :(
ultra dumb.. dont even feel sorry for ya
"ill buy them off you guys for $200 lmao
and i get to buy one for cheap >:) 1070 upgrade time
Never stop making videos Jason. These are the most informative and easiest to watch tech videos on the internet. Some of the other channels out there get really annoying with generic cicada trap beat music and/or overly energetic hosts. You've found a great balance and a great honest format for your videos. Love it. Keep it up man.
I'm very excited to be able to afford a 3070, especially when my friend just built a new computer and put a 2080ti in it and bragged about it lol!
He'll be fine, just tell him that in a few weeks, he can probably sell his 2080 ti for about $400 on the used market assuming it's a really nice partner OC card like the STRIX or FTW3 OC cards, then he can find another $400 or so and get the 3080 to regain his bragging rights. I'm sure that will make him feel much better about it. LOL
my mate that blocked me the other day and now hates me bought a 2080 ti as well! he's gonna be so crushed when my half price 3080 poops on his fps lol.
@@esgscarz2576 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@esgscarz2576 what a beautiful world...
Your friend can buy a 3090 and then brag more about it. Lol
A moment of silence for all those who bought a 2080/ti in the last 3 months
Literally anyone that bought any turing card*. Turing is the worse leap in graphical performance per $ in nividia's history (disregarding the titens). The flagship was bearly 30% faster at double the cost. Even the 2070 super, which was on paraty with 1080ti was sold at bearly a 15% discount more than two years later, with almost usable Ray tracing preformance. This isnt just "that's always what happens when you wait". If you bought a 1080ti the day before the announcement of Turing, you would of missed almost nothing. That's how bad that generation was.
See me outside, I got 100$ for you. Bring a long black coat and sunglasses
Their on suicide watch
Or in the last few days. Maybe yesterday?
Henry Cavill.
I felt like the announcement was actually very refreshing and had relatively minimal fluff.
I liked that they more or less just got to the point. I don't need 2 hours of marketing talk :D
@@XnxxD Exactly, I was expecting a very drawn out announcement. Instead we got what I felt was a consumer friendly, yet deep enough, look at the products.
Just wait until they reveal he wasn’t actually in a kitchen, and everything was rendered by an RTX3090 around him on a green screen. That counter? Not real. That stove? Generated real time.
The true power play
@@JB-xl2jc hahaha. Well played Jensen...
It was pretty tame for Nvidia, although I did notice that chart with the RTX performance compared to non RTX, when they showed the 3000-series performance on that chart they removed the 2000-series and Jensen talked about the 1,9X efficiency. Pretty cheap trick, I'm sure someone else noticed.
I'm going to miss my GTX 1080, but I'm so glad I held out for such a long time before upgrading.
Same here! I told all my friends getting the 20 series to hold out...unfortunately they could not
Thats how i feel I've got the widest smile on my face.
tattoodrdoke right?! I just switched to 240hz and I can feel my 1080 ti showing its age so I’m just counting the days until it’s an early Xmas haha
>such a long time
>*cries in 7970*
yep, the 1080 has served me well, but now is the time for more
I love that. Made my morning, "If you saw that and you're pissed, you only have yourself to blame." Outstanding delivery, dude.
"Is it worth it?" ...hmm lemme work it. Put the thing down flip it and reverse it.
dat missy reference
“Ti esrevretidnatipilfnwodgniht ethetup”
AMD: big Navi is going to be a game changer.
Nvidia: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Nvidia: but the game had already been changed
Nvidia was always king of the hill and AMD was the price to performance king. Nvidia just killed AMD
I'm not so sure
If nvidia was so aggressive they might be scared (threatened) of the competition.
We'll just have to wait and see
Amd fanboys and fan base are notoriously stupid
*This woman's
Great, 1 year into owning a 2070 and I felt like my card is 25 years old
Take 1 for the team
Then how feel the ones with GTX970 in their rigs?
Ive owned my rtx 2060 since august last year and im going to buy the 3080 now :D im literally broke right now, but the site i usually buy from has a ”buy now - pay in three months” so hopefull ill have the necessary funds then xd
Plebasaurus Rekt but why? 2060 isnt a bad card or anything just save ya money and enjoy it
Ray i ordered a reverb g2, the 2060 can only run it at 50% resolution and that ruins the immersion. The 3080 will be able to handle more than 200% supersampling, and it seems kinda ”futureproof”. But youre right, not very economically smart xd
RTX 3070: "one month away!"
My GTX 970: "How about a fresh coat of thermal paste?!"
Same here dude :')
I just upgraded my CPU for work (and more, I shilled out a whole lot of money for Ryzen 9 3900x) and will wait couple month to finally retire my good ol' 970
Dang still on 3.5gb of vram. That's rough.
Yeah my 970 died in January, had to get a 2060 Super. Kind of a bummer now, couldn't it have died on October so I could snag a 3070?
@@GodofLovers I have GT 710 1gb, my man. Life is rough for me. Also FX-8120 CPU.
I’m still using my Titan X Maxwell with 7700k
Jay: "People usually upgrade there GPU every two years"
Me: Laughs in GTX 1070
This is me lol but will definitely be upgrading to a 3080
I still have 1060 3g lol
*laughs with in GTX 1060*
960 XD
Make it 4-5 for me LUL
8k 60 FPS
Flight sim 2020:
- Hold my beer!
So curious to what kind of FPS we will be getting with a 3090 on MFS2020
Still cpu limited until dx12 patch hits though.
You can upgrade and get a few FPS boost but it is still CPU limited...
@@emiel255 none. cpu limit. let's see how AMD will change that, new CPU's incoming as well this fall.
@@TNM001 well if you have a 3950x like me how is it a CPU limit?
me: at last, the time to upgrade my 770 has come
RTX 20 owners on ebay: how much you haz for my (obsolete) gpu? (ಥ﹏ಥ)
Imma finaly upgrade my GTX 660. :'D
I've only had my 770 4GB for just more than a year. It can wait, a whole set of mobo, cpu & ram is a more pressing matter now
I believe those with 3-digit GTX-es must upgrade their PCs in whole. Or their new GPUs will be in a magnitude faster than their existing PCs.
@@KrotowX yeah, average bottleneck for my i5 4core cpu and rtx 20 series on 1440p is around 35% .. not too bad for until upgrading with a better cpu..
@@KrotowX @KrotowX Of course, if they didn't update he rest e.g. for reasons other than games, they should if they go for a card with a power of 1080 or above. My current i5 2500k struggles to keep up with my 770 in games from around 2015-16 and later
I didn't expect Nvidia to come in swinging. It's going to be interesting to see AMD counter this. 👊
Yea i don't think nvidia gpus have never been this low in price vs performance makes me think they know big navi is gonna be good
i doubt they can
they simply aren't going to compete at anything other than low budget cards. until the 3060 comes out..
Logan Bates I think they believe RDNA2 might finally have given a bit of a challenge so they decided to smack AMD back down. Insert “Hehe well done kid you made me use .5% of my power” meme here.
Yeah. I still think though, that big navi will be big indeed. AMD has come a long way. It's the wait and see game for me :)
Nvidia: obliterating AMD
Me: yeah, show them who's the real deal
Realising I've bought AMD stock
Me: wait, noo
I bought stock when I heard about the original Ryzen.
TRASE to be fair, we haven't seen big navi yet
AMD stock won't be that affected, the cpu division is doing good work, have both amd and nvidia stock :D
AMD is fine even if navi fails big time, they still have ryzen. and two of the consoles exclusively use amd hardware.
They still have Zen 3 coming out
Looks like come Christmas my trusty 1060's time is up. You've served me well old friend
Same but with my 1050
I'm curious what AMD's offering around 500$ will look like if Im honest. It'll probably end up being a 3070 though that I get in the end.
Same here. 4-5yrs of MSI 1060 3gb is done :) hello 3070. Though the power consumption is 100W more
My Rx580 might be out the door soon
I have an i5 9600k, it's saying the 3070 will rival the 2080ti if I'm not mistaken. Will my cpu be a huge bottle neck for sure if I get that or does it seem like it's optimized more so it should run fine as far as that pairing would make sense?
jay: most people update their GPU every 2 years
me: cries in gts 450
Intel HD 630 here
Intel hd 3000 lol
GTX 650 Ti here
I've been waiting 5 years for this. Still rocking my 980Ti 😅
980Ti was such a great card. Beat much newer models for a looong time.
3 years, gtx1080. I'm excited. Glad I skipped the 20xx
3 years, 1080 ti, definitely gonna try and get my hands on a 3070 :)
5 years, 970. Also glad to skipped 20x series. 3080 here I come :)
DerSveeen 970 to a 3080!? Jeeesus man that performance jump is gonna blow your mind!!!
Man, this is fantastic news. After years, I finally am done with college, am working, and saved money to buy a gaming PC part picked by me. I am so hyped.
I still hope AMD has something up their sleeves and also bring a good valuable option.
Bro come on you know AMD are shitting the bed rn
@@samgoff5289 I'm actually hoping amd pulls out something even bigger, hopefully the fact that big navi has been kept so secretive is because they got something big up their sleeves
RIP AMD
As much as I would love AMD to pull something big out... I highly doubt it, especially with the affordability Nvidia goes with on this. AMD hopefully has a great $300 2080ti like card or at least 2080, otherwise I fear they will just be struck down hard, and it is most likely. We'll see.
Congrats dude, I just build my PC last year after finally finishing school, the freedom with having money is great
"Should you get a 20 series card or wait for the 30 series ?"
*Cries in integrated graphics*
I feel you (running on "Intel HD Graphics 4600" for 7+ years now).
Wait
Don't worry APU bros, for there is massive light at the end of the tunnel. Last night and this morning, I'm seeing RTX 2080 ti's sell on Ebay nearly as fast as they're listed for $400-$500, 2080 and 2070 supers going out for as low as $300 and $330 respectively. It'll take a few days to setting into a groove, but we all have Nvidia pricing the 3070 at $500 to thank for all of gamers now having access to 2080 Ti performance for well under $500 for the foreseeable future (or at least until Nvidia / partners can't keep up with holiday sales, which will drive everything up again). The entire GPU market is now being driven down by the entry cost of the 3070 and it's availability. This also really leave AMD in a pickle, as they were still moving RX 5700XT's and a few Radeon VII's by being price competitive with 2070 Super cards. Now that the 2070 Supers appear destined to drop to $300 or less, 5700XT's, 5700's, Radeon VII's, won't be worth more than $300 new/$250 used and Vega 64's, 5600XT's should end up $250 new/$200 used. This is insanity, the RX 590 is going to have to become a $100 range card. What world is this? :) So, in short, keep and eye on Newegg in coming days/weeks for amazing deals on new RX 580's/590's, RX5700's/XT's and even GTX 1660ti's/1660 supers, as I'm betting those will be sub-$150 new soon, and if you're open to used, you should be able to score AMAZING performance for under $150 on Ebay, like 2060 supers and gen 1 2070's. If Ryzen 4000 desktop keeps the same launch prices for their 4600/x, 4700X/ 4800X/ 4900X /4950X's as they had for 3000 series,, I'm predicting new "budget PC's where you should be able to build R5 3600/3300X + B550 + 16GB RAM + 256GB M.2 + 2060 Super + budget case for under or near $500 brand new, or under $400 if you go used.
I paid 8$ for a hd5450. It sorta runs games iuse to play on ps2.
@Gus Johnson Id rather play a board game than get an Xbox, and if I could afford that I could just build a PC.
6:03 That aged like fine wine.
Jay: 'we can't compete with consoles anymore'
Also Jay: *eats his own words*
According to epic ps5 console is equivalent to a 980 anyway so the video was misleading to say the least.
@@schizoidfingers4088 that console killers are dead video made me buy a new card that I'm glad I returned due to coil whine now that 30 series is so good
You'd be able to buy 2-3 consoles per 1 pc with the same/better specs.
@thegeorgezila Yeah but do you really think Nvidia would risk bullshitting the consumers about performance they'd get wrecked if that ever happened.
@@link1565V2 lol no
My sad 2012 laptop: I understand
Me sobbing: I don’t want to leave you
My sad 2012 laptop: it’s for your own good
I turned mine into a plex media center. Maybe you could try it too?
Your 2012 laptop : was I a good laptop ?
You : no, you were the best
Facts my laptop 2012 laptop died this year
A DOGGO I’m kinda excited. I have for many years played games at 720p minimum and gotten by. It will be nice to buy something. Hoping the 60/50 are a great deal
@@vetements2876 you have my condolences😔
I'm glad i've hung onto my 1080 Ti all this time, this jump is gunna be crazy
Smart man.... or women idk you
1080ti is still a very good card though you don't need an upgrade
@@chatastrify *Gamer
Been running a 1070 since new but I bought a 2080TI awhile back and sold it when rumors started coming out. best decision ever.
Same, have the 1080Ti Hybrid and it is running amazing still. Won't be upgrading for quite some time .
When i saw the price of the new gpu's (i didn't even know there were new gpu's coming out aswell) i actually started tearing up. I have a 1050ti and I'm recently going to be getting a decent sum of money so I really can't wait for a 3070 or even 3080. Hell, at those prices, I can look to upgrade a decent amount of other stuff aswell.
I was freaking out when he pulled a fridge from under the table and called it the RTX 3090
😂😂😂😂
You mean out of his oven?
It was in the oven
Beau Chang it’s Nvidia Bread, freshly baked.
I'm feeling pretty vindicated skipping the 20 series with my 1080.
2000 series was pretty weak, not much performance up from 10 series.
I'm still on a 1080 ti
Honestly though, in 1440p, I'm not sure what actual use I have to upgrade.
Sure if I was on 4k, 3080 might be the ticket to give 4k good frames, but...
Same here
I also skipped I have watercool 1080
The only reason I don't feel terrible about my rtx 2070 right now is I couldn't afford this and get a ps5 this year.. gotta play those exclusives
Hard same.
Going from 1070 to 3080, this is the performance leap I was waiting for.
I wanna do the same, just gotta wait and see if my 650w PSU can hang with it or if I’d have to upgrade that too.... if so 3070 it is lmaoo
Same bro
...And this is why I have a 1600 watt psu in my basement...
980ti to 3070 for me. The 2080ti was double the performance, that's what I wanted, 1000-1200 was way too mich though, I overpayed for my 980ti already (700). 500 is just perfect.
Still sitting on a 970, ill upgrade when it dies, or when I'm a millionaire
I’ll buy a 3080 if it’s as good as it seems. Not doing anything until I’ve seen everything be tested thoroughly though.
They seen what AMD has/is doing to Intel and thought; "Nope! Not to us!!!"
lol
The difference is intel didn't do their homework. (innovation & improvement), when shit happened it's a bit too late to make a move.
While Nvidia keep doing their homework, when shit happened they can easily turn the table around.
Almost like competition is good...
legit laughing out loud. Nope, 'not to us'😂😂😂
@@whisperviz1346 2 years of stagnation isnt exactly "doing their homework". They just were worried about the numbers they seen from the new consoles and the RDNA improvements.
Thus they did not want to leave anything to chance.
@@CesarinPillinGaming what is this 2 years of stagnation?
but yeah, they probably originally plan to release this 3000 series in 2022 or something after squeezing more from 2000 series.
Jay : "This is all hear-say"
Meanwhile at digital foundry who got a 3080 sample: "These are really big numbers"
man this gen jump is fascinating, cant wait to see 3090 performance reviews!
Why aren't they showing numbers for the 3090 though seems kinda sketchy
@@jannclaudebinoya Coz the benchmarking software can't register fps over a gazillion.
@@jannclaudebinoya I took it as they're mainly focusing on selling the 3080 and 3070
@@skywalkies77 cut the fanboyism my guy. Nvidia is known for flexing fps just like intel and for some reasom they aren't showing any fps graphs only self proclaimed "8k 60 fps" on games that probably are well optimized already. Even a rtx 2080ti can do 8k 60 fps with the right settings
@@jannclaudebinoya probably just cause they want their "flagship" gpu 3080 to steal the show. But the new 3090 definitely seems more of an actual gaming GPU than the Titan was advertised as
Our expectations are so low now that when a product line launches that actually delivers next gen performance, it is lauded as a holy grail. The 1070 performed on par with the 980 Ti just 4 years ago.
Ummm okaay, but do you remember the price point for both cards? That's what makes this launch crazy
@@tastyfanpop the 1070 launched at a lower price of the 980ti but had more performance. How is that not the same as what's going on here? The only difference is that turing was a complete joke in its prices so it makes the 3070 look better artificially. The 2080ti should of costed the same as the 1080ti to keep in line with the 30% performance increase per $ we saw in past generations.
You can't honestly expect twice the performance every generation (if you by generation mean 2~3 years). Considering that single core frequencies increases have almost slowed to a halt, a leap like this is truly a holy grail.
@Ryan W Such as being surprised by a huge jump in price/performance when you go from 12nm to 7nm.
@@stonewolf5613 No it's not. Just like Maxwell - > Pascal was a 50% shrink and delivered a similar improvement in price/performance, this was a similar jump because it shrunk the process from 12nm/7nm. Turing was hardly an improvement (aside from the RT stuff) because it only went from 14nm to 12nm. It's literally as simple as that, by far the thing that has the most effect is the manufacturing process shrink.
I've held on to my 970 for this series. I think I am finally ready to move on...
"my 2 year upgrade"
Me: Laughs in Intel PENTIUM 4g ram and windows 7 laptop
Did you buy it from a supermarket
It at least has MMX, so all good, right? :) heh
I know the pain, old system here as well.
@@nondivisiblequotient I know. It takes 40 minutes to open chrome and it's a 50/50 chance that it will open.
@@are3287 yes
The 3070 is such a great deal imo I’ll definitely be buying it for my new build !!
Im gonna upgrade from my 1660 gtx some day
Yeah I'm probably gonna upgrade from my 2060 to the 3080, the ~125% uplift in performance will work wonders at 3440x1440. Or I'll get the RDNA2 equivalent, if the price is right
I'm going to upgrade to a 3080
@@tmoneytechnic bro are we the same person, thats my plan too
Upgrading from my 1050ti as soon as possible!
My GTX 680 "My time has come, we had a great time "
Me "Plz don't go! the RTX 3080 is not available in the store yet"
My GTX 680 "Goodbye old friend" **Dies in blue screen with artifacts**
Me "Shit!!"
?
You have multiple options, if you don't need to game the next few weeks you could get a cheap used GPU or use integrated graphics if you have an Intel system, it's powerful enough to watch videos online.
Buy a gpu and return it (;
the GT 710 is a great placeholder card, and its usually less than $50
😂🤣😂🤣
I remembered when I told someone in a j2¢ comment section to wait for the 30 series * and got flamed for pretty much no reason
"When you have a 1080, the 3070 is the card for you." Why did you say that!? Just the ammo my mrs. needed... I want a 3080! 😁
Yeah, and I've got a 1060 and I'm really in between 3070 and 3080 :D
Coming from 1070, the 3070 tough to beat. I'm not at bleeding edge of tech, but this card is just more than enough at 2560x1080p 144hz as well as Sims on VR
@@antoninactiveemail5397 I'm gonna use the 3080 to play in 1080p because a new monitor costs money that i could spend on a graphics card
indeed its alot faster.
"most people upgrade every 2 years"
-Me with a i7 4th gen and 970
me too with 4gen i5 and rx 580 :D
i5 3rd and 970 here haha. i do plan on upgrading eventually but idk ill wait to see what amd has in store first
I'm hoping to ride out this 1070 till at least 2028, that was an unnatural splurge for me
i5 6th gen rocking the 970 :) but i guess its gonna be a 3070 soon ;)
I3 4170 and since my 9800GT (yeah...THAT OLD.....) died about 2 years ago, I'm using the damn IGPU on that POS CPU...
I've had a gtx 970 since early 2015 so this seems like the perfect time to get a 3070
Why not 3080 while you're at it?
Same case here, mate 😃
@@shinyhappyrem8728 because 200 dollars more?
@@shinyhappyrem8728 well if he is running gtx970 it is very likely he will completely rebuild the system maybe reusing case, drives or PSU. so budget can be a thing
Same here Gtx 970, would love to get an 3080 but 320watt is 2much for me.
*oh god, can't wait to watch Attack on Titan season 4 in 8k 60fps!*
i love how the two companies are now competing for the cheapest, yet fastest cards. it's a great time to build a pc guys!
Indeed!
100% agree what a time to be a pc gamer. honestly consoles are coming up to. finally
Ikr. Just built a intel 10700k
16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram
Z490 mobo
2080 super
700w inverter psu
1tb nvme m.2 drive
Cpu cooler
3xfans
Killer ax wifi
Bluetooth 5.0
And a hd60s
With high definition audio sound card
For $1800 aud
Tried the same build a year ago it was 3.5k insane prices. Might do another at black fridays sales. Love the competition atm
Ben Milsom You built PC with a 2000 series card right now???
@@EJTunaFish a month ago, I wasn't going to but I needed the pc now for work, last one died and I got the card at 50% off for $299. So I just went meh. Thats aud not US. Saved the other $500 I saved to go towards a new 3000 series next year. I did the math it worked for me.
I want to see if 3090 can run Flight Sim 2020 at ultra everything 4k/60fps.
Of course it can i believe that it would run it at 100
In the reveal, they stated that the 3090 will be capable of 8k/60fps, so i think that would be a breeze for the card
@@YuNOGaME360 atm it´s not about the card it´s the very poorly optimized game... I guess even a 2080 TI can run FS 2020 @4K60
It's currently bottlenecked by CPU - it's running on DX11 and can only use up to 4 cores. So there's a possibility of even the 3090 now getting the full framerates, but we'll see..
FS2020 is a *lot* harder on the CPU than the GPU. Better luck with the Ryzen 4xxx series than this to get crazy performance from it.
"Most people upgrade every 2 years"
Me: "Looks at my I3-3240 that I have for 7 years and Will only replace it cuz it doesn't work anymore"
Also me: "Meh I will wait till my 1060 stops working so I can upgrade it"
I went from an AMD Phenom II BE, 16GB DDR3 @ 1666mhz, and... I can't even remember the GPU anymore to Threadripper 1920x, 16GBDDR4 @ 3200mhz, and SLI'd 1080GTXs.
Nothing in between. 10 years.
I has 2 970 in sli with ryzen 5 1600AF
i5 2500k here xD
Nice! Unfortuantely, my 1060's stopped working in davince resolve- can't handle the rendering of the new 10-bit 4K videos smartphones are now churning out in H.265 so the RTX 3070 is looking pretty tempting.
Frank Newsome I went from intel pentium g630, 4gb ram, no gpu to 1080ti, amd ryzen 7 3700x, 32gb ram ddr4
I haven’t bought a card since Maxwell.
The time has come.
the fact that jensen used the stove as the back ground is hilarious
Well, it's where the best ideas are cooked up. LOL!
He literally taken the 3090 from the oven 😂🤣, all this time it's been cooking up in there 😂
Do you smell what the rock is cooking?
And he's got all the spatulas!
@Dr. Fresh_2k I didnt know that, lol. This is 1st time i manage to watch the live stream, its still funny though with all the stove gpu memes out there
I’m happy that I decided to wait to build my first PC, I almost bought a 2080s back in July.
I’ll wait to see the reviews of real world performance of the rtx3000 series cards, and to see what AMD is offering later in the year. But it is an exciting time to be sure!
No way AMD will beat it 😁 😁 😁
@@edgarsnezinu1439 Fanboi alert!
Have you seen digital foundrys video
Agreed. Even if AMD can't hold up it's still fun. Hopefully AMD will have something similar price performance to a 3070. If not I'm just gonna save for a 3080 next summer when more pcb variations are available.
amd slogan : WAIT FOR BLA BLA BLA
"Is 30 series worth the wait" bruh I'm a 3d artist student and I've been running a 970 for 4 years, I'd say yes :^)
And study loan payments will wait, yes :)
Anyone who bought a 20 series card in the last 3-4 months must be kicking themselves !!! lol
yea I got a $874 2080 about 7 months ago and if the 3070 is better than a 2080 ti then I lost a lot of money since I would have to sell my card around $300
Not really. Imagine gaming without that juicy performance for 3-4 months?
@@dewy3288 I would not feel tooooooooo bad cause the specs of th3 3070 are similar to a 2070 super, so maybe they are saying with RTX on it performs better than a 2080ti, but we will have to see.
Got a 2080 super February and if these cards are good I will with move this to my other pc or give it to my son. That 3080 is looking good. I just hope my 9900k can handle since I cannot support pcie 4
Nah just got a rtx 2060 theres no point for me to get rtx 3000 series because I just don’t need it, future proofing is bs and the rtx 3000 series will be obsolete in 4 years.
I’m definitely gonna cop a 3070 will be a good upgrade from my 1060
a 3070 should represent a monumental upgrade from your 1060, assuming you're on the 3GB card, forgetting about the generational improvements, you're going from 1152 CUDA cores to 5888 CUDA cores, 2.5X the memory and 2.5X the memory bandwidth.
do you know whag cpu would be good for this card?
@@ghostzz. about a i7 10th gen I'm guessing but Its prob just me lol
im feeling the same way :D
@@ghostzz. i suggest you wait for Intel and AMD to announce their next gen CPUs, see how they perform. They're both coming this year
I'm upgrading from a 1070ti. I've never been so happy to look forward to an upgrade 😍
Kodi W me who brought a 2070 super not to long ago 😭
@@ar12. the 2070 is still a solid pick mate! You have it now and I won't get mine for few months yet! We're all winners in our own way.
@@ar12. whelp I only have a 1650
Kodi W yeah I’m still pissed of after spending so much then new gpus but right I will have had it for 3 months by the time I could get one. I’ll upgrade at 4000
Gtx 950 here 🤣👍🏻
SLI was the dumbest gimmick ever. Thank God nvidia finally realized that and killed it!
Naah it was cool!
It was cool when it born. Because at that era GPUs was still slow so it was reasonable to pair them for performance.
me: DAMN THATS A DAMN GOOD PRICE DROP
resellers: oh bud your in for a treat :)
Honestly. The hardest part will probably be finding them in stock.
yeah 1st time going for a reference because the resell spike after they sell out will be $400+ time and time again
Nvidia wanted to prevent an intel happening to them, AMD has really improved in the last generation which made Nvidia fear what happened to intel.
Or it was the competition against the new consoles
@@Gumkey consoles also have rDNA
@@Gumkey I completely forgot about the consoles, crazy to think everything they announced either matches or trumps this years consoles already
@@mickeyu2893 I mean to be completely honest it's still not quite enough to compete with consoles, while compared to last year the price is much more reasonable. But remember that consoles are meant to have 2080Ti equivalent performance, while also casting 400-500$. That's the same performance as that card while *also* including the other hardware you need.
@@TheArrowedKnee The consoles always have hidden costs that no one seems to talk about tho, like the fact you pay for online which can double the price of the console over the 8 years you'll pay for the services.
Economies of scale and definitely in Sony and microsoft's favor but with the cost of online, more expensive games overall compared to PC game stores like steam, and the proprietary hardware like controllers and VR. You'll end up paying in one way or another.
I'd rather pay that big fee upfront
Jay: "I WARNED YOU"
Me: "Yes"
I think i need to sell my 2070s real quick lmao
@@tonyradle8747 youre alredy late... do it asap or keep the card and live with it
Marbles 2 was the "Real time" demo. 🤷🏼♂️
As a 3D artist, that demo was enough. The computational capability is a massive improvement. I'll be NVLinking (2)3090s when they come out.
I’m glad my 1060 6gb has lasted as long as it has, however, I am very exited to finally get the kind of performance that the 3070 is bringing to the table!
ThouSloth The wait really seems like it’s going to have been worth it
1060 was probably the best bang for your buck! 💥
Yip, long live my 1080Ti :)..
"People upgrade their computer every 2 years"
*looks sadly at floppy drive in my cream coloured tower*
built my ryzen rig on my old cream coloured tower, best feeling of my life. lmao
The hard floppy, or are we talking the old 5 1/4 in floppy?
see if jay wants it, he's said he's looking for a old school case
let me know if u wanna sell that case
I was thinking about putting my new build in my old cooler master HAF 932 with the full plexi side panel from what, 2007? Lol. Thing is sooo huge though. May collapse my desk. 😅
Really love the style of Jay of just sitting and talking it's really nice...feels like we are sitting with him and talking
I'm 12 days into my 30 day window to return my 2080 super to Amazon. It's been a nice two weeks, my friend, but you're going back to where you came from!