Confused about NVIDIA’s new video cards? You’re not alone
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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The reason why i prefer Jay over others, is because he has such magnificent grey hair, which makes him look wise
Appearance of knowledge, but really just a tech noob that does marketing for products.
hes look like an old version of duke nuke em
@@evolicious I'm sure you got more knowledge than Jay.
@@txtpeer5179 cannot unsee
Jay the Gray Wizard.
0:00 - intro
0:22 - corsair ad
0:50 - Jay makes words
1:30 - the power connectors
4:37 - the card designs, differences between reference, AIB and "FE"
10:54 - do I really need PCIe 4.0?
15:16 - 3090 =?= Titan. Digresses into...
16:23 - filling the gap between the 3080 and 3090
18:00 - the "winners"
19:06 - embargo lift dates
20:00 - should i sell my 20xx card?
20:48 - Jay pleads us to subscribe, he has boats to make :,(
Not the hero we deserve but the hero we need.
Ty
You're God send thank you
Boat case build coming soon? 😍
Corsair case ads always have the lowest version of their RGB fans. "Oh I'll just drop another $100+ to get the real RGB fans + the Commander Pro that's going to be needed...". Thanks Corsair.
I've got 2 out of 6 their HD fans going TU. 1 growling while the other has 1 LED that's freaking out randomly. All 6 are under 2 years old & am planning to RMA.
Also, I love how Corsair shows their own water cooler mounted lines up on their own case, but that's Corsair for ya. My own Corsair H150i cooler in the Corsair Cryatal 570X doesn't mount properly due to hose length.
I love how we are starting to count CUDA cores in the ten of thousands now... I remember it was a big deal when a hundred and a thousand was reached
moe law.... but it will get hot and hoter... hence the bigger heatsink.. people said more power but in the end... there still not used for it.... all they can do is 8k raytraing with dlss which mean not native... it would hurt your eye...
@@campkira dlss 4k is better than real 4k
I get the more power throughput at the base line, explain how that makes VRAM work better?
Im not convinced the VRAM is going to support anything more than a very small scale linear experience, nothing near a 4k Fallout 5 experience.
The "good" deal, isn't convincing....all the Reddit PC-Masterrace propaganda is not convincing.
I caught on because of all the people openly discussing their concern as well.
What? They think people magically won't know and share?
They aren't putting money in pockets.
@@PK-jg3vu the more power is for more cuda core consumption, not vram
@@aliefr2984 So will it still run 4k 60 FPS with all 10gb of Vram consumed?
I'm one of those with a 980Ti still, and it plays great at 1440 144Hz but I'm so excited to finally see an insane increase in performance, especially right before Cyberpunk 2077 that will be using all the new tech.
Nice man:D I'm using gtx 1070, still good for 1080p 144hz and my i5 9600k at 5.0 ghz doubt ill up grade till I can't get 1080p 60fps at max settings.
That’s dope you been pc gaming for that long g
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:30 - The power connectors
4:35 - The card designs
7:50 - Water blocks
10:50 - Do you need PCIe gen. 4?
15:16 - Is RTX 3090 a Titan replacement?
17:52 - Minor questions and ranting
20:21 - Outro
Thanks so much :D
Thanks!
I really appreciate the timestamps - thank you
Martin Matejička excellent time stamps
Ty
Timestamps:
0:00 Pre-intro
0:19 Intro & sponsor and post-intro
1:30 12 pin power connector
4:34 card designs, AIBs, founders edition, reference design
7:51 water blocks for different card designs/board layouts
10:50 Do I need PCIe 4.0 or ist Gen. 3 enough? and other PCIe 3 vs 4 stuff
15:15 3090/Titan, titan replacement?, mysterious graphics chip (3080ti super?)
17:52 jayz typical blabla we all love
18:50 Pre-orders?
20:20 Outro and more blabla
thank you
You're doing god's work. I don't know why more RUclipsrs don't use that feature that lets us get to the good stuff from the player.
@@Wadson watch time
When you're still running a 770.... dear lord I need this 3070.
A RX 580 is a significant upgrade from a 770....was using a 770 not too long ago and picked-up a Vega 56 for 220usd
got myself a 670gtx ahahahah im a winner, and i just have it because my brother bought the 1080ti on day one and he was going to sell that 670gtx but i said maybe my 480gtx was done.
I have been running a 670 for some years now, getting that 2060 was a huuuge upgrade to say the least
If youre on 1080p ...1060's amd 580's are still doing a decent job till 60fps refresh rate.
Finally looking to upgrade my Gtx 970 as cheap as possible, either 3070 or used 2070/2080 if prices fall hard enough.
"I'm going to finally retire my 980 and I'm gonna laugh my way all the way to the bank." Me: looks at my 2 780 Ti's "Your retirement is almost here my friends."
Looks over at my 760 that has the heat sink held on with wire and a glass bead. "You can rest soon my friend"
1 asus 780 ti directcu ii oc for me she gets toasty.
750ti here, and yes!
You just kept it too long i got good money for my 980tis enough the 1080 didnt cost me anymore money and i still had some left over. My 2080 was an extra 200 after i sold my 1080. Now I guess were gonna all throw our 2080 in the closet.
@@avengethis97 I wouldn't say I kept them too long, they've provided satisfactory performance for six years. Now a successor has come along and their work is done. Here's hoping I can get 4-5 years satisfactory performance out of a 3080.
I love hearing everyone retiring their current cards, I'm straight up gonna get my first card.
Same, dude just built my first pc yesterday with no graphics in it yet waiting for 3070 or 3080
Dude, same and it's a massive leap in price for performance. I'm super excited.
I gotta 2070 Super with your name on it. It's a founders edition and it's only 3 months old 🤣
I feel bad for the guy above me.
@@thetalesofdaneandco 🤣 No worries. I'm grabbing a 3080 FE on day 1 with no regrets on having a decent secondary GPU. Maybe I'll throw it into a Ryzen 4th Gen build. That's definately happening too.
I'm gonna retire my 960, she's been an absolute trooper, but it's time to embrace the future.
Make sure you got a 650w aswell
Just retired my 970 ftw + you're going to enjoy the performance increase I with I did it sooner.
Make sure u upgrade cpu cuz most likely if u have a r5 2600x or below u will bottleneck the dog shit out of ur pc
@@NonsensicalSpudz Is 550w bronze good enough for 3070?
_Ivy Bridge + Maxwell Titan X_ = *FOREVER!!!*
sitting here with a 970. So looking forward to a 3080 or something similar.
Same rocking a 970
same, my cpu is already bottlenecking 😭
Same. Was about to buy a 20XX a month ago. Glad I waited.
Same. I'm gonna have to just go with a new build I'm thinking. i5-6600k in my system will bottleneck the new cards.
@@Regmoloves1God Whatta chump. I'm running an MSI R9 270x that came out in 2013 lol
Jay pls start making videos while wearing a wizard's hat and robe.
why is ur name so long
Gonna retire my 2080 TI Kingpin, it’s been a solid few weeks
Michael Mehta FFFF
I feel your pain, bro. About 3 weeks ago, I jumped on a 2080 Ti purchase for $900.
*Fuck*
Eric C but why would you buy that card at that time man? 😂
I bought a 2080ti for 1150 pound which is like 1550 dollars like two months ago
cl4rk fn why tho? Ampere was obviously gonna be an architectural leap
So if anyone can answer, I've got the Corsairs 64GB (16x4) 3200MHz and AMD 3950X, would it be a good idea to buy faster RAM for a 3090?
when jay told the 980 owners to get ready for some fun, imagine my excitement as a 660ti owner.
@@ConsiderFirstCnE appreciated!
I still use a dell PC I dont even think it has a graphics card
Sugar Wafers I have an iPad
Gtx 660 club 🤘🏻
I’ve got gtx 1080, and I’m hyped!
My little 1060 is still holding strong, I'm going to see what AMD has to offer before building a new rig. Will probably do so next year.
I think people are smart to wait foR AMD. There is a good chance they still have good competitors for cheaper even if it doesn't match 3080 levels.
My little 1050ti keeps chugging along like a champ until flight sim came along haha
3070 is one of those new gen cards where you are guaranteed an easy 5 years minimum before you require an upgrade. won't need to wait, tho waiting just a bit longer is usually the smart move. Think about it like this if you bought a 2080 a year ago you would be buying the best available card (performance for price) and that should last 5 years easy. In this case you are getting a 2080ti level card at half the price and are still getting 5 year minimum. Just saying, you can't go wrong.
my 760 is still doing ok too
I got a 1060 that is still going strong too but I've been wanting to upgrade my PC for a while now so I'm getting the 3070 when it comes out
Well I will stay with my 2080ti until she dies. Just because the 3070 "is going to be a part with the 2080ti" doesn't mean that my GPU can't continue to play at 1440p 144hz at max settings.
Exactly this is why new cards have such high even though probably only half of those people need those cards.
finally with the RTX 3080 I will be able to play Papa's pizzeria at 240 FPS
500*
Oh the nostalgia i loved that game.... Putting too much mayo and pretending it was cum lmao
Papas freezeria was more of a vibe tho
@@achraf517 😂
@@achraf517 JAJSJAHAHjJajsjjajajajajKskajajJjK
When your Corsair ad is repping the 20 series cards... XD
The first time I thought he said it was a 2060 card not just 20 series in general, which would be even funnier.
Well yeah it’s not like they’re out lol
3000 series isn’t even out, what do you expect, dumb comment
I am one of those “planing to retire my 980” hoping the founders edition of Nvidia will keep up with the custom competitors!
Hope so, Nvidia spent a lot of money into their cooler this time. I'm going either FE or EVGA FTW3.
@@darkmanure I'm going the exact same route. The red line on the EVGA cards upset me tho heh. I'm just curious whether or not the cooler design from Nvidia is a good idea. I use a hyper 212 evo on my 9600k, i'm not sure I wanna send more hot air through it.
@@deam0155 if your not overclocked or not very overclocked, you can actually undervolt your cpu(volt not clock, no performance loss) and save some degrees on your cpu.
A bit more aggressive fan curve ontop of that you probably won't see much cpu tempature difference.
If your evo cooler doesn't have both fans installed or you have some empty fan slots on your case, you likly can afford to fill those slots if your looking at a 3080.
Standard cases with open air gpu coolers already have a fair amount of the heat go into the cpu already. Its not a problem that I think I, nor most gamers can't get around.
Or actually, stock will be low.
So nvm, the cooler will suck, your cpu will go up 200C if you use the 3080FE, dont buy it!
deam0 nothing wrong with air cooling in terms of generating heat internally, so long as you have a strong air cooler. The evo is pretty weak if you don’t want to blow hot air everywhere, a well piped or beefy air cooler should have enough heatsink to sustain a lot of of heat passively, minimising the need to blow hot air around, minimising RPM of the cpu fan speed too.
Upgrade your CPU cooler if you’re gonna go 3000 series. Noctua U12 is good enough compact, ideally D15 or the bequiet deep whatever it’s called equivalent.
same here except I hope to just keep the entire build for "old games" and build the new one from scratch. BTW, will we be able to get the PCIE 4.0 mobos with these around the same time? (edit/addendum: the power or watt consumption for the 3080 is really high right? what level wattage PSU would really be a good idea for a high end gaming pc?)
I'M Waiting until April my birthday! The Big 62
Happy Birthday!
18:26 exactly what I'm planning to do. 980 GTX upgrading to a RTX 3070. Already have the new system, did not upgrade the GPU because I knew new cards were about to be announced. Now I'm really looking forward to the benchmarks.
What processor did you go with? For not bottlenecking the 3070 gotta have at least Ryzen 5 3600XT, if not Ryzen 7. And for intel i’d say either i5-10600K or i7-10700K.
@@DanielOfRussia 3600X
@@LowStuff Should be fine for 3070 then, mostly. Good luck with upgrading anyway.
Here with same scenario and 1060 6gb 😁
Had a 980 but mine died, so Im using my laptop with a 1070 while I wait for the new gpus haha
Buying the 3090 so I can get 360 fps for Goat Simulator.
WhiteHawk 🤦🏾
Jeff Moore ik this is kinda sad that I know this but I think goat sim is capped at 60 FPS as I was seeing if I could run it
But you need 420 fps at 69 hz to play Goat Simulator !!!
I've heard it goes well with stardew valley
3090fps on minesweeper with raytracing... 😎
Requirements for the new 30 series 1- A nuclear plant in your backyard 2- An olympic size pool for your waterblock 3- And a tunnel that goes directly to the vault of the nearest bank.
Dude... Computer Engineer here. You're just awesome. I watch a bunch of other "Tech" youtubers, but I can only trust you and Gamer Nexus.
This Video, the questions answered, was exactly what i was searching for. I could not have asked for anything more. Ty Jay. Now all confusion and doubt have has been cleared up.
Sitting on a 1080 TI and waiting for:
a) AMD's cards
b) 3rd party benchmarks of both NV and AMD cards
c) any price adjustments
d) the inevitable early-adopter stampede + e-tailer price gouging to clear up
So figuring I might be able to buy something around February...
Imagine they release the super version of the cards in February😂
Sounds wise
And then they get super expensive because they can not keep with the demand and get a 3070 for the price of a 3080
That's just the way to play it. February in general is a great time to buy tech.
Agreed 100% ! Same thing here. 1080Ti going strong into 2021...waiting for a Ti or super version of the 3080 if possible.
Your video and a bunch of others the last hour taught me a lot. I didn't know about AIBs or even about third party GPUs. My 6+ year old AMD radeon hd 7800 has been chugging along just fine. It is gonna taste SOOO sweet to upgrade next year.
Being a student in this period feels so hard 😂
I recently got my bachelor's degree and have a job now, I have never felt more alive.
@@smcalpha Nice, congrats! I will have mine in a few months, then life will begin.
@@AJ-jz5eq feels great man
recently upgraded to a 1440p monitor and my 1070 has served me well for 4 years but im ready for that 3070
did the 1070 really struggle at 1440p gaming? Might I ask what games you play? I have a 1070 and a 1440p on the way
Same here I got 1070 and a 1440p 144hz monitor. It runs fine for me but that 3070 will be a good upgrade that can last for years.
Dave I have 1080 I use for 1440p 144hz gaming. Most games don’t reach that though, I think doom and doom eternal are the only consistent games that are not something like overwatch or CSGO
Go 3080 for extra 200 $ way faster then 2080ti
The 1070 is a ultra settings 1080p gpu now, not that good for 1440p on new AAA games.
Every tech tuber when the 30 series launch: it's free real estate mannnnn
What is the difference between the least expensive version of the rtx 3080 and the more expensive one?
@@bowseroil5337 armmmmmmmmm...m0r3 fR4m3s???
@@mistysohigh5550 like more 10 fps?
@@mistysohigh5550 how many frames difference between most expensive 3080 vs least expensive 3080? Like 8+ fps?
Im at a 970 that i bought just after release, cant wait to get my 3080 :D
This was an incredibly well done. Great job on all the research that went into answering these questions. And a job well done on articulating all these answers. I learned stuff I didn't even realize I needed to know.
I've been an AMD gpu person for almost a decade now (by which I mean that my brother gave me two of his leftover crypto card after his mining setup went nowhere, and when those finally clonked out my roommate gifted me a brand new 570 out of the kindness of his heart) but after saving some money and eating nothing but rice and veggies for nearly a year (everything tastes good with enough sriracha on it) I'm finally gonna see how green the grass is on the other side. I'm getting a 3080 and I'm upgrading my ol' reliable 3770k (I might frame it on my wall) to either a ryzen 4000 series when those release or, if they end up being overpriced for a tiny boost, a 3800xt. I'm gonna have so many frames it's gonna overflow and end up at single digits. I can't wait to play minesweeper on it.
screw the 3080
Welcome to the family brotha!
get dual 3090 and dual rank DDR4 3600(AMD) or 5000ghz(intel) with custom timings also probably an intel CPU overclocked to the max for max frames. or maybe a 3950x because of the really high memory bandwidth
@@Blox117 ah yes money falls from sky
@@thatpenguinate Wait... It doesn't?! What the hell have I been picking up?!!!
*salutes 980ti*
Its been an honor gaming with you. You've served me well.
You've earned your retirement, and a place in my heart, right next to my 9800 GTX.
We may grow distant, but you will never be forgotten. *cries a little*
what a reddit comment lmao
Same sitch - didn't realise what a great buy the "Mini Titan" would end up being way back in the day... sad to see it go but the RTX 3080 seems like a worthy successor for sure!
I am personally waiting for next year to adopt. 1: tax return, 2: benchmarks from you, Kyle, Linus, 3: I wanna see what else is coming TI/Super wise.
18:40 that's me! My 980ti could probably use the rest.. it's still working just fine in games though, but even better graphics at 60+ fps? Hell yeah
"It's time to go my friend and comrade, it's time for you to rest." *sells his GTX970
Its fought a good fight me too *Plays Last Post*
$9.70
Thou may come upon a righteous fellow willing to treat it appropriately.
Mines been working hard for 5 years and made it into my Intel 9700k Build (Yeah I somehow wished I would've gone AMD), but its time for a new one.
I won't sell it tho, bc I'm planning to fix up all my old hardware for retro stuff. Includeing my old i7 2600k that will recieve my 970 :)
Can't wait for all of this and for the benchmarks and everything.
Yeah Ima try to sell my 970 but probably only get 50$ or so but I can always try and sell me PS4 tho lool
After spending well over $25k over the past 20 years to be an early adopter, I have matured (finally) and have learned that early adopters are no more than remote R&D unpaid staff members for the manufacturers. I will wait 6 months minimum for the hardware and especially the software to get from crawling to walking.
took you long enough
I mostly updated every two generations, lasts me 4-5 years.
What are the odds of Best Buy having more than three 3080's in stock in store at launch day? Gonna get there an hour before opening and would like to buy one if I don't get one online.
I'm finally retiring my MX540... that was already dead anyway
Who am I kidding, I'm keeping my intel hd 3000 till I die
18:30 when he said that, I looked at my GTX 470 and laughed.
You and I are gonna see one hell of a boost. 10 years of innovation and miniaturization all at one go.
Same here, I lost my mind looking at my GT710
I still have a GTX 280 in one of my systems... (GTX 770 in my main)
@@pradyumnac I lost my mind looking at my 1080!
These new cards are utterly sick. The thing is though. I still get the performance I want in the games I play.
So I'm not going to be upgrading. Probably wait until the 40 series 😂
Me with intel hd 5500 😢
Finally retiring my 1050ti, holy hell I'm going to have a freaking field day with the 3070.
You at least have a decent card hahaha i'm still going with the mighty 770
Youre gonna be burned when a 3070ti comes out with 16gb after big navi launches
Haha happy for you! I had that same card after swapping it for a beefier 1060 and now will pick up the 3070 aswell! Will you game with it on a 1080p monitor? I feel like we 1080p monitor users will have to upgrade them aswell
@@denverbasshead because I wouldn't go with a 4k display anyway the 8gb are enough for 1440p imo and I know more vram is always better but do you know what is also better? Getting the card earlier and having more time/fun instead of waiting again for the next better component. I mean when the 3070ti (if it is a 3070ti) is released will you already buy it? amd is coming with their 4000 series. I've also heard rumors of ddr5 will you wait for this too? maybe this will take you three quarters of a year. Lets wait for rtx4000 then ... xD
@@xrandomturtle5440 when it comes out a few months after most will feel burned
I bought a pre built Corsair Elite with a 1080ti which I love and am planning to upgrade to the 3090. I wont be selling my pre built 1080ti though. I'm going to keep it as a guest computer so anyone can use it. Will be making my first diy pc build. Gonna get the graphics card on release day and try and buy all the parts on black friday, I can wait with pre built till then:)
18:28 Can Jay read minds?
how many fingers am i hiding under the table?
Got a 980Ti, happy I waited for the 3000 series 😎✌️
Mine unfortunately died on me in early 2019 so I'm going to wait for 40 series in a couple years.
980ti strix here :) great cards, which one you gonna take?
Unr3aLpm at least 3080 from ASUS but might wait for a bit to see if there’s gonna be a 3080Ti with 20GB ram available
@@dominatorzgaming7339 yeah lets hope the rumor wont be 3070ti, but also depends when they are they gonna release the new card, also zen3 cpu's are goin out so they are worth waiting
@@Unr3aLpm 970 Strix here. Waiting for 3070 Strix.
I'm so happy i have no money at the moment for a new card, so i am forced to wait, so can't buy a card to fast
Dude right? Honestly though this will let me get parts over time.
facts, i got actual money to spare for this. im waiting for the release
That's me, it's a pretty long wait and I'm getting a 2070 in 380CAD
Like I could probably buy the 3070 but I don't think itd be worth it with an i7 7700k and pciegen3, shit the way CPUs were moving when I got the i7 I figured it would be good for the next 2-3 gens of cards but CPUs have moved fast
@@ryanw7196 if you listen to.what Jay said frequency is more important than the pci-e connection type
0:40 The best commercial xD
Timestamps:
0:01 Jay begins explaining how 2080ti people were bent over barrel
0:05 We all come to realisation he was right
0:06 we all press F for 2080ti owners.
0:41
no-nos here:
it's a pre-built
*20 series gpu*
Your mum lol
pre built is fine but Turing is a joke rn
Me: *sees the value chart*
Also me: *looking at my 980* You betrayed me
Cries in 970
@@xXCreepyNeighborXx Laughs in 980
I will believe it when I can add a 3070 too my newegg cart for 399$.
980 squad reporting in.
Jay talks about jumping from a 980 to a 3070 when I’m jumping from nothing to a 3070.
I'm changing my old gtx 970 for a 3090, from mid to high 1080 60fps to ultra 4k 144hz... Boi, I'm excited
thanks Phil for the pictures to back up Jayz' explanation!
One thing I disagree, history has shown that humans don’t learn from the history 😂
Especially when they spend so much time destroying it, or just acting blind and ignoring it.
@@mcsupersport exactly!!
EK have said that they are definitely doing the FE card as well as the RE card. With the RE, they said that they're going to get it out at or close to launch, it's unclear when EK will get out the FE block.
I don't think it'll be too much of a problem, since it conforms to most other block sizes and shapes, so hardliners will be able to squeeze it in behind and just softline their loop over the GPU for the time being, and softliners won't have any issue most likely and just be able to swap in a longer tube for just now and until the water block comes out fitting this chevron shape.
It'll give a good amount of time where thermals can be observed on this fairly uncommon "pass-through" air cooling design, and then have all the watercoolers thoroughly appreciate their water loop when it does come out. There are so many factors that will come into play with this weird PCB shape, like the actual shape, and the power connection on it. With everything being "closer together", it will either see an increase in performance, or a decrease due to lessened thermal sponging from the smaller block of metal compared to a reference card or a manufacturers card.
All in all, I'm excited to see a change in everything, the price to performance, the new spec, the new shapes, everything. We're getting the performance now, it's just efficiency that will need to be worked on on either revisions, or further generations.
I keep seeing techtube talk about PCIe Gen4 and while you're all right that it makes no difference for GPUs, it was never intended for GPUs.. to see why AMD launched it when they did, you have to look at the Mellanox IB/Ethernet adaptors
Specifically, you have to use SR-IOV and two x16 lanes of PCIe Gen 3 to do 200Gig networking as PCIe Gen 3 doesn't have the bandwidth, while you can do that in a normal single x16 card on Gen 4. And you pay for having to use PCIe virtualisation to realise that 200Gig link, especially if both links don't come from the same PCIe-staved CPU. It's HPC networking that pushed this change forward, and AMD decided that why not give consumers the boost.
Likewise with NVMe storage being another (lesser) factor
I understood about 3 words
18:00 Yup. Owner of a 980 GTX bought *just before* the damned 10xx series came out... and then I bought an HTC Vive with all the Pascal-VR goodness :/
With the 20xx RTX shenanigans I decided to skip that gen' as well.
Very much looking forward to a 3080 :)
Exact same boat with you. The RTX 3080 is a very compelling upgrade for my GTX 980.
Your 980 boat now has a third passenger, lol. That 3080 is so goddamned exciting...
980 as well. A watercooled 3080 will be my next card, but I'll wait on waterblocks to choose the AIB.
I done the same when building my current rig bought a 980 ti few months before the 10 series came out... no complaints really handles everything i throw at it pretty damn well at 1440p... just waiting for amd to release the new navi cards and see where we at before deciding what to upgrade to.... but exciting times if these new 30 series cards from nvidia produce similar perfomance gains on a wider variety of titles than what weve seen so far....
980 ti here😂 lookin forward to 3080/3070
19:13 I've searched the interwebs for this "other date floating around" for these new cards releasing & can't find anything. Has anyone heard about this? Upgrading from a GTX 480
Im looking too
Wow, a 480? That's gonna be a massive upgrade! And here I thought I was getting a big upgrade coming from the 970.
Let me know if you find it
I think it is the video from Harware Canucks where they said NDA date for FE cards is 14th Sep
videocardz.com/ we knew the prices before the announcement and dates I read somewhere probably in comments don't remember aka "floating" info lol but for sure 17-24 I knew
10 days to go before I start pressing F5 or not on my favorite webshop lol
It seems most people get the whole "decompress textures on the GFX card" thing wrong:
It will _lower_ the demand on bandwidth for PCI-E, so if anything the need for PCI-E x4 should be _less_ than without it.
I wish video reviews such as this would also include a brief mention of Linux. I think most Linux users know, however, that a new NVidia card is likely to cause lots of headaches, if they can get it to work at all. And one of the problems using NVidia with Linux, is you have to be very careful when updating your system, and you have to try to keep the NVidia driver updated. Feel free to correct me, because I am new to Linux. I plan to purchase a Nitro Sapphire 5700XT once I can find the money, as I understand it all the drivers are baked into the latest 5.8.x kernel or 5.9.rc4 if you
are using a distro with the latest kernels. Again, please feel free to correct me. If anybody out there is curious, just watch the videos that have DXVK in the title.
I’m finally retiring my no card and getting a 3070
F for your no card, he is probably really sad to leave, i would guess
Same here, skipped 20 series and now i'm glad I did, takes the sting out of the 3090 cost.
Same here.
I used to game on my HP Pavilion 360.
And right now, I have no PC.
So, I wonder how much of a performance difference I'll experience switching from the inbuilt GeForce 450M and the GeForce 3080.
Wait for AMD or Ti versions... these cut down VRAM models are a slap in the gace money grab before AMD releases their cards...
@@tomgillotti I agree with your advice but for different reasons. You want to know the competition before making a decision and what with the predicted availability issues, most cards will be priced above msrp. Give it 6 months and you'll have the full picture and if AMD come out with a surprise these cards might have their prices reduced, once they have enough to sell of course.
That last part especially: thinking of selling my 2080 now to get the 3080 as I have a 980ti not in use, but worried I won't be lucky and get stuck with only the 980ti for months (mostly play triple 1080p racing sims so it's a lot for the 980ti to handle). Safer move might be to hold off and sell both 2080 and 980ti at a reduced cost whenever I get a 3000 series card.
Also: I don't know if this is mentioned often, but I really appreciate that Jay tries to record videos with as few edits as possible and leaves in some of the mistakes, and when they do transition to a different take, Phil makes it intentionally obvious (and often funny)...not a fan of the "every sentence or even half of a sentence is an edit" approach that many RUclipsrs choose to employ. Makes it feel like you're having a discussion (albeit one-sided lol) with a real person, as opposed to an algorithm of carefully curated responses. It's little things like this that make this channel one of my daily RUclips "stops"...keep up the good work Jay and Phil!
I know exactly what you mean. I get really sick of having a cut every 4-5 seconds to artificially shorten sentences and remove all of the empty space that happens in normal conversation. It just feels fake.
Yeah in the same boat as you. My thinking is that the second hand market price likely won't change much now so you might be okay to hold off.
I'm running 2 980s - Waiting to rebuild my whole rig around Holiday/post Holiday season with the 3090.
Jay deserves more subs. I've been with him since before he was using that 8350 and playing battlefield. It's been great watching the channel grow.
I'm so happy to get the 3070 so i can play mario kart at 300fps on my 60hz monitor
On a console caped at 30 fps that has nothing to do with an rtx,
And barelly any upgrade possible.
Thats what we call a pro gamer move
@@SuperJumper ever heard of an emulator
@@SuperJumper fyi you can play pretty much all nintendo games on PC, from nes to switch...... what are you even doing here on a PC channel, go away you console pleb
fran are they the same quality ? And you can play new ones too ? And how plz ? 😅
and the cringe award goes to....
@Super Jumper
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Finaly my gtx 970 will rest in peace when 3070 comes out!
Same. Cant wait!!!!!
Same sold mine last Nov and bought a 1660 to tide me over till the 3000 series was released. Had hoped it would have been in spring but ok.
Still rocking a gtx 770 lol. Safe to say, this will be a huge upgrade
Bought a lg cx 48 tv . This combo is going to rock. Going to be a huge jump!!
@@RoyalFreqs Huuge
The problem with the performance per dollar chart is that it's compared to the previous card's prices. And the 2000 series had a huge price hike, meaning the 3000's results were skewed compared to the previous gen's. GPU prices are ridiculous in this day and age, and cost as much as an entire PC used to.
Im looking forward to the price drop in the 20 series cards when the 30 series gets released. It be nice to have a cheap vr computer in my living room.
Yup, I'm going to retire my 980Ti and laugh all the way to the bank. Truth.
Meh my 970ssc is good for a couple more generations...
@@YourDadsBoyfriend meh my 3090 is good for a long time
Same gonna upgrade to the 3080 from my 980Ti and my i7 6700k to something from the Zen 3 release
@@u_zr0124 were in the same boat. I'm going all put, acrylic loop Threadripper.
ΛU_ZΞR0 R9-3950X with an ASUS X570 motherboard.
I'm going from an r9 380 to a 3070. I'm ready for the performance bump.
If u can, wait for amd's release and then choose. Better to go for whichever is the best value
I went from a R9380 to a 2080 super last year . That R9380 definitely served it purpose 😀 . F to the R9380. The fond memories it gave me will last forever
@@AntiNoobDefence but then the price value might not be there anymore as the bitcoin miners will have saturated the market and price for these cards
@slightlymiscalculated Dude same I have an r9 380x strix and going to 3080
@@timjb3376 honestly who uses gpus for cryptomining anymore. Asic chips are far more efficient and cost effective.
I've got a Pascal TitanXP and I held off on 20 series cause I wasn't convinced that I'd see a huge leap. But now with 30 series, I'm all about getting a 3090!
Buying a 3070 to upgrade from a 980ti only because of Cyberpunk, super excited for that game and the card
Thank you for the answer on the pci gen 3 stuff couldn’t find a solid answer 😂
That was really a very speculative answer. Yes its 100% acceptable for the first 6 months. Beyond that, its a craps shoot on what game devs do as far as utilizing the direct path to m.2 drive.
As soon as devs start using that then yes you will bottleneck the pci3.
Its very likely you have a year+ though to upgrade to pci 4 mobo/m.2
Got a 970, it's been running for 5,5 years. Already upgraded the rest of the system.
Glad I'm waited, but I feel like it's time to upgrade.
But first I'll see your, LTT's, GN's video about it (just to be sure).
same here. what CPU did you buy?
@@chunchunmaru i5 10600k
yeah, I sold my pc with i5 6500 rtx 2070 super. I just sold the whole pc because I had an old case and cpu so upgrading was necessary. I sold it for more than I spent for it so I think it is time for a 3080 or if AMD comes up with something good it might be time for AMD
So are 3rd party cards better than founders edition or not? What is the benefits/cons of getting a 3rd party vs the founders edition? I was looking at the ROG Strix edition but not sure if it will be worth the extra cash.
As a stop-gap, I went from a 960 4G @ 24'' 1080p(60) medium/high quality to a 1660 SUPER @ 27'' 1440p(60-144) high/ultra gaming. I cant wait for the next $250-$325 option.
i’m hype to see these preform with the RYZEN 4000 series
Yeah I am actually delaying my build for the new CPUs
im hyped to see them perform with the 3950x and threadripper
@@Duckie43J Maybe delay it more. The Ti & super versions already been leaked. No specs yet tho.
Hi hype
I seriously doubt they will launch super AND Ti versions of all of the cards.
I've still got my ASUS 980Ti. It's almost 5 years old and still going strong. I think I'll wait for the (most likely) 3080Ti and really make it count.
What are the rest of your components?
Ull need a cpu upgrade for pcie 4.0
Mobo as well
@@goatbiryani9799 Upgraded to ASUS X470F and a 3900x a couple of months ago (yes I updated the bios). X470F and not X570 because I saved 60 and could get 16GB of RAM. Budget juggling if you will.
Make sense
Likewise. I'm still happy with my 1080ti and will wait awhile to see how things play out.
I loved my 980Ti. It just started having power regulation problems last week, a couple weeks shy of 5 years. I was really hoping it'd carry me through to the flagship of this generation.
20:46 me who doesn’t even have money for a pc watching:
My EVGA GeForce GTX 980 TI (that I bought 4+ years ago) requires 1 x 8-pin, and 1 x 6-pin.
Fortunately, SeaSonic's 8-pin cables are modular themselves, so you can make a 6-pin an 8-pin (or vice versa).
There's also 8-pin cables that turn into 2 x 4-pins.
I'm sticking to my Aorus 2070 Xtreme for now. I'm waiting for the probable 3070Ti 16GB
That card will not happen
I have the exact same card.. I am waiting for 3080ti with 20gb Vram really want someone to make a card similar to Aorus one.. #RGBLove
@@wolfydan121 will see.
Also don't forget to upgrade you psu for the 12pin and you need a gen4 mobo or it will not work
@@wolfydan121 it will. Gigabyte spilled the beens a week a go.
980ti upgrader here! I've waited this long, so waiting a few weeks longer to see how RDNA2 compares is no biggie. I'm going to be waiting for all my water cooling gear to arrive anyway. After my last custom loop (which was also my first, way back in '08) I told myself that I'd never go through that again.
But ... ... ... I like quiet, and air isn't quiet. I also like pretty, and custom loops are the prettiest. And thus my decision was made.
970 to 3080 is gonna be a wild upgrade.
I’m on that 980 train and personally can not wait to upgrade!
Welp, looks like the cheaper prices of the 30 serices cards are not going to matter.
Scalpers will scoop up the bulk of them and resale them for 20 series prices.
Don't give in to them. Eventually stock will be enough and scum like that will be left with tons of videocards they can't sell.
1080 going strong but v tempted by a 3080
Goliath not really “scum” just responding to inefficient pricing
There are no cheaper prices of 30 series cards. All AIB cards that will prove to have good temperatures and noise are 800+ euros or USD.
@@Goliath1337 Or so they said before the cripto mining crysis, and yet here we are.
Gonna sit on my 2070 Super for at least another year or so, see how things pan out.
Right gunna sit on my 2080 super an see how all this pans out! An see if there any super or ti! Models! I personally think that’s best! Option specially right now! With everyone buying shit up! An charging a HUGE! Premium!
@@rushunt2131 i just sold my 2080 for 600$ canadian (bought it for 1k two years ago). I was looking for 1080ti at the time but it was same price as 2080 in canada.
Probably best financially to skip every other gen at least and come back for the 40 or 50 series.
TylOOOr D I’ll take that
@TylOOOr D You should really skip ampere. First it's made on samsung's 8nm which has horrible yields(will run hot af). Secondly no one knows how *reliable* these things are going to be. And aren't you kinda skeptical in the least? I mean the RTX 3070 with its 5888 cuda cores performed about as much as the RTX2080 Ti which has 4352 cuda cores. And we all thought the RTX20 series was a beta test lol. If you're hell bent on upgrading then at least wait 2 or 3 months. To see how reliable these cards are. Also I'm pretty sure you and many others can't get their hands on these cards till march of next year anyways because of low supplies(check out the latest leaks for more info) and high demands.
No one ever talks about how Ampere's cuda core being 30% slower than Turing's cuda core. So, the cuda core count doesn't scale up core for core. So, Ampere's cuda core has double the FP32 compute and is a dual FP32 unit. It just 30% slower core for core. So, keep that in mind.
Yeah, I'm going from 580ti soooo, looking forward to it :)
This is the one Embargo I’m happy for people to try and break! Supply us with news, you’re not supplying weapons!
With how much power these cards require, they may as well be nuclear warheads
@@DouglasQuaid999 **cough** Titan Z **cough** R9 295X2
And then they never get to review cards again, or anything sometimes.
@@DouglasQuaid999 They honestly don't require that much. They aren't breaking any past precedent. There were more power hungry cards in the past. Also don't expect AMD to be magically less power hungry. Sure TSMC 7nm is "more efficient" but we aren't talking double digit percentages better. And after all, just take a look at Radeon 7, a 7nm TSMC card vs the 12nm 2080 Ti. The Radeon 7 uses nearly 300 watts, yet gaming performance is worse than the 2080 Ti. Which BTW, samsung 8nm isn't less efficient than the previous 12nm, it's more efficient. And the 3080 is 320w rated, so just a little more than the 7nm Radeon 7, for WAY more performance. There's way more to card efficiency than process and AMD had better improve upon that or we'll see their cards topping 400 watts attempting to compete.
I'm sticking with my 2070 Super until the reveal of the "mystery" part. Plus, gonna wait to see about the water block situation.
I'm sticking with my 2070S too, I'll likely upgrade Q1 2021
SOLD! just sold mine today.
I have rtx 2070
EKWB has confirmed its water blocks for Nvidia GeForce RTX 3000 GPUs will be ready at or close to launch
EK and Alphacool have waterblocks on launch.
The start of this video cracked me . Not the part where he fumbles but the part where Jay is Advertising a "prebuilt" with 20 series and makes a video about 30 series . Ah the irony
watching this with the warm glow of my 980Ti.... Exxxxcelleeenntt...
14:04 "Game manufacturers" - so true
I still have a 980Ti, im really happy how the 3080 looks performance wise and didnt buy a 2080(Ti) earlier :D
Currently playing with a 980TI as well. Ive been looking for a perfect time to upgrade and I think this is it
yeah my msi seahawk 980 ti is a beast still and i play on an rog swift 1440p monitor handles everything still really well hope the amd cards are epic as the competition might get price to performance value in a really good spot for us consumers
not really taken with the way it dumps air into the case unlike previous FE/reference cards
Never owned a ti card the highest tier card I own when the 900 series came out I bought the 980 and then I jumped to 1070 ftw and skipped the 20 series looking forward to buying the 3080 or 3070 need to see the difference between then first
The adapter, as well as the EVGA version, for the new nvidia 12 pins, only uses 6-pins per 8-pin connector. 2 aren't used.
if you don't like the phrase "future proofing" use "forward thinking" because that's what they're doing with PCIe 4.0
my 1070 has had a good 3 year run. I can't wait to pick up a 3080 so I can finally move up to smooth 2k with high FPS
3080? smooth 4k u mean
@@thanishdavipaul2876 a monitor with 4k and 144+hz costs double (maybe even triple) that of a 3080. So he probably did mean 2k :p
2k/1920x1080p with high FPS? You’d get super smooth FPS at 2.5k with 2560x1440p and even 4K/3840p. But perhaps you’ve conflated the terms?
4K is a term born for motion pictures- and when used in marketing for displays, it refers to the horizontal resolution of 3840x2160 vertical. By all logic, this is why 2K refers to 1080p, being horizontal 1920 (rounded up to 2000)x1080p vertical. 1440p is treated the same, at a horizontal resolution of 2560x1440p vertical (rounded down to 2500 for 2.5k.
4K was also used as a marketing term for displays to simplify the understanding for the TV audience. Mainly as a 4K display contains 4x the pixel count of a 1080p display which was the previous standard.
2k for 1080p is an error of terminology which has been retroactively added to refer back to a now ‘older’ tech. Born from the term 4K which was never meant for display definitions (UHD just didn’t cut it alone as a term). Monitor display resolutions were considered important long before the HD era of TV’s ushered in the 720p ‘HD ready’ and 1080p Full HD era started.
Apologies for the wall of text! Just sharing :)
You got a 1070 too? I'm gonna be getting the 3070, I can't wait for this fun
@@mike_nelson and after all that wall of text at the end of the day no matter what you say is "retroactive" or technically incorrect/correct; When referring to display resolutions especially in the "gaming" arena, it is generally accepted that when someone says 2k they are referring to 1440p or more specifically 2560 x 1440.
IMO, to give categorized titles to specific horizontal pixel count ranges seems even more unnecessarily incomplete as how we also refer to resolutions by only the vertical pixel count (720p, 1080p, 1440p etc...). Given the nature of different aspect ratios, I think it would make more sense in the absence of just stating both horizontal and vertical, we start referring to specific resolutions as the rounded total pixel count in millions (MP) and the AR. for example 4k (3840 × 2160) could be referred to as 16:9(8MP) and 1440 would be 16:9(2.5M) so where as we also have ultrawide 1440 (3440×1440) that would be 21:9(5M). ...or perhaps just refer to both the complete horizontal and vertical pixel count. Either way we all would have to remember more numbers lol ...just my thoughts on the subject.
Definitely going to wait for Big Navi!
If AMD fails then im going 3080, probably wait for the Ti.. that 700 - 1500 gap is huge
True, then again you could get more GRAM with the 3090 and potentially a longer lasting card perhaps.....
Goodluck getting your hands on one
@@xerr0n 2080TI has left the chat...
@@WinforFame Cryptomining is pretty much dead, shouldn't be hard to find them
If AMD Fails im gonna retire my RX580 and get a 3070
I know that SSD data decompression directly to VRAM is a forward thinking concept for PCIe Gen.4 - but what I would like to know is whether or not they'll allow the technique to be used on Gen.3 systems. Even though the bandwidth is considerably lower I would still think there's a big advantage to be had over going through system memory regardless of the Gen.3 vs. Gen.4 bandwidth.
LOL! Did he just say "There is an ASTERIX on that"!? (12:00)
lol I caught that too. I always catch it when I hear people pronounce it that way.