ATEM Mini vs Stream Deck vs Software: Which is right for YOU?
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Should you use an ATEM Mini? Should you use Software like Ecamm or vMix? Should you use a Stream Deck? Is there a combo that’s best? ALL your questions answered!
00:00 Intro
02:06 Hardware vs Software
03:20 What is your intention or purpose?
04:15 Atem Mini quick overview
05:30 Pros and cons of the Atem Mini
08:11 Pros and cons of software
09:05 Software recommendations for live streaming
09:34 Hardware you need for running live streaming software
10:03 What is a HDMI capture card?
11:30 Pros and cons of software (cont’d)
12:37 Using the Atem Mini and software together
13:28 The cons of using a hardware and software combination
13:58 Stream Deck as a camera switcher
16:21 Wrap up and conclusion
💥 ATEM Mini Pros/Cons
💥 What the Stream Deck does and does NOT do
💥 Software options with or without the ATEM
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I found this way more confusing than helpful. For example when combining the streamdeck with the Atem you don't really give examples of what you should program the streamdeck to do. Thanks for the content. Unfortunately it left me confused rather than informed.
Thanks for all the effort of explaining these pros and cons. Happy new year, God bless 🙂🙏🏼❤️
You are so welcome! Hope you have a wonderful year! ❤
How does OBS not enter into this conversation? Whether live streaming or making VODs I would still contest that OBS is used by more creators than any other software suite available right now.
Love the content, keep it up!!
THANK YOU!!!! FINALLY, someone who breaks it down with simplicity and helps make sense of it all! Outstanding explanation! ❤🎉😊
Awww so glad this was helpful!!! What’s your content about?
I got it all figured out now! You rock thank you!
I'm so glad this was helpful for you! 🎉 Hope that maybe you'll be able to stop by and say hey during one of our live streams someday! (Friday at 10:00am PT) 🙂
exactly the video i'm looking for :)
Yay!! So what did you decide?
This is so helpful for me!
That's great to hear, thank you! Are you using a solution like this now?
Many thanks!
This is so helpful =]
This is so helpful, thx a lot!
I'm so glad this was helpful for you! 🎉 Hope that maybe you'll be able to stop by and say hey during one of our live streams someday! (Friday at 10:00am PT) 🙂
New and a Q! I recently had to replace an aging iMac and chose the M1 Mac Mini. I had been using OBS to blend DSLR and smartphone inputs to Zoom for piano lessons (side and overhead views). Sadly, the NDI plugin for OBS doesn’t run on the Apple chip yet - so Zoom is unable to recognize the virtual output from OBS. Would the ATEM allow me to do the simultaneous views? Are you aware of any compatibility issues with M1 Macs? Are there software options other than OBS?
I should probably mention I’m recently retired (yay!) and have time to experiment, but not yet ready for anything so involved as streaming - yet.
Many thanks in advance!
Very helpful, thanks!
I'm so glad this was helpful for you! 🎉 Hope that maybe you'll be able to stop by and say hey during one of our live streams someday! (Friday at 10:00am PT) 🙂
Are you using one of these options for your streams/recordings?
@@LiveStreamingPros Heard so much about the Stream Deck and I'm thinking of picking one up soon! :)
Awesome, hope you'll let us know how it goes! 👍
New. Thanks! You have confirmed my tech choices.
Woop woop! That's what we're here for 💅
Thanks that's a wonderful explanation
Glad it was helpful! 🎉
Great video :) I have a few questions....
I have obs setup whilst streaming and I use streamdeck XL to control all the scenes within obs. I have my cameras x3 plugged into an anker usb hub that is powered, plugged into the wall. The cameras are all plugged into elgato cam links. Would you reccomend plugging my cameras into an atem or a dock station instead?
I have found this video extremely helpful as I navigate this. Is the video on the difference between Atem-s the life you did with photo joseph?
Did I miss it or did you not discuss the blackmagic software that comes free with the ATEM. I use the Mini and mini pro together with all kinds of macros to pre produce many different things including split screens, fades, green screen etc. I never even touch the hardware during presentations....Seems like you have a bias against the atem.
As I understand you can set up "scenes" also with atem using Macros. And you can bring macros up with streamdeck(companion). Question I have searched answer for is: Can you combine a macro and scene button so I dont have to push 2 buttons at once to do the fancy actions? Can I do the combining inside companion or stream deck software?Thanks for the great content!
You can do it with Companion software and a stream deck or other hot key devices.
Amazing information! Laura , what camera 🎥 are you using in this video ?
You can get all the details here! livestreamingpros.com/gln
I hope this works out! Everything I’ve been looking for! I have 2ATEMs and Elgato capture card and three stream decks! I’m gonna hit that subdue button if I can get all of this correct in my head after watching this video
I'm so glad this was helpful for you! 🎉 Hope you'll let us know how it goes!
Can you explain how the stream deck is not a replacement for the atem? Ive seen plenty of streamers only use a stream deck and still switch cameras. Even in your video, I see you switching cameras without the atem?
Great video! Thanks. How are you able to only show the first part (pre- live questions) video?
We trim off the end using the editor in RUclips Studio.
@@LiveStreamingPros thank you for taking the time to respond. You are awesome!
We're here to help! ❤️
Luria, I'd love to hook three cameras to my MacBook Pro, a Stream Deck, and a Rodemaster II. Can you tell me which dock/hub you use to bring all these peripherals into your MacBook? Thank you very much.
I use the CalDigit TS3+ Dock (amzn.to/2KsK7U2) and CalDigit TS4+ Dock (amzn.to/3GPlZUd) - depending on which set up I'm on at the time.
@@LiveStreamingPros I also have the CalDigit that I was using as a dock and was fine with it charging the computer at the same time and also taking some of the load off the computer. However, I just ordered a new M2 MacBook Pro and the advice it to charge the computer when it is not in use, and then use it til the battery is just about ready for a recharge. Rinse and repeat. Apple suggests not using the computer while it is charging. With the Caldigit, my computer will constantly be charging when in use, won't it? I don't want to kill my brand new computer right out of the box and diminish the battery life! Thoughts?
Do they make a camera switcher that is with wireless remote? So if I am doing an example in a class, I don't want to run over and change the camera but be able to do it on the fly
TIA
You can install Elgato Stream Deck Mobile which will work on WiFi to change scenes if you’d like.
Just a lurker here :) Great content as usual. Q: On PC is there a reason use vMix vs OBS/Streamlabs?
Yes, we find that vMix offers more functionality and grows with your streaming needs. Also, the way it maximizes the graphic card really helps your computer avoid issues...
If I have the capture cards...Can I use stream dec to switch from camera to camera or do I need An Atem.???...Also If I have an ATEM...DO I still use my capture cards??? Thanks for your video
Thanks for this but you left much for me to figure out. In what situation is any of this better . Stream deck is not a switcher so what does it do for you More importantly so much break in conversation makes me feel that I am trying to learn from a non confident source ....
Hi im Looking to get either get the elgarto stream deck or the Atem mini pro just want it for camera views which one is better for that thanks
The stream deck is for switching views that you already have connected to your computer. The Atem is for bringing sources into your computer. Does that help?
My video (using canon 5d dslrs and video i put cards) seems to drag/lag by just a hair (in video) with ecamm + stream deck .... why do you think this is ?
There are many things that could cause this...maybe your computer is struggling to do what you are asking, could be an issue with your capture card (if you are using one, or if not, using one might help), a bad port, cable issues, etc. Check out this video for help troubleshooting: ruclips.net/video/7fKhS2ZTi0M/видео.html
Which ATEM allows Ecamm to see each camera as a multiple source so I can use Ecamm’s built-in switcher?
None, the ATEM is seen as a single source, so you have to switch to the device you want first on the ATEM and then that is fed to Ecamm.
QUESTION, you didn’t have any issues with the ATEM and the Mac Mini 1? Are you using the Big Sur Software update? Thanks
No, we haven't had any issues using that combo - and yes, we are using the most-current version of the OS. Maybe try checking with ATEM support about any issues you are having?
@@LiveStreamingPros Thank You, I love your videos. I haven't ordered on as of yet, I just saw a few videos online where people have had some issues. Maybe it was in the past. Do you really need a ATEM Mini or can you just use a Elgato Stream deck to connect more than 2 cameras and switch between them?
Not at all, you can absolutely stream without ever adding an ATEM to your set up!
And even the Stream Deck (which we LOVE) isn't necessary to get started. It just makes it a little easier to run a show by yourself.
We have a bunch of videos about using the Stream Deck (just search our RUclips page to find them), but you might want to get started with this one that explains the differences between the ATEM and the Stream Deck: ruclips.net/video/y9fGZJq3WuM/видео.html
@@LiveStreamingPros Thank You So Much!! You are so Awesome. I am running to watch the video right now
It really comes down to inputs you need because you hit a device limit. There are cards that will allow more HDMI or SDI inputs.
For most people you can get by with one or two cams and either the communication software (Zoom, Teams, Webex, etc) or something like OBS, Ecam, etc.
You can get much more professional results and look more professional while streaming, by using a switcher. Especially if you are streaming someone other than yourself.
ATEM mini is great but for a little more money RGBlink is awesome. I actually recommend it over the ATEM mini pro. However if you are recording on top of streaming, I highly recommend either of the ATEM iso switchers. Being able to record each input separately is a huge time saver for post production.
A stream deck is an awesome extra to make things easier. However it is not a necessity. Macros and keyboard shortcuts are available to use as well. I just wish BMD would add assignable hot keys to their ATEM software.
That said my extreme ISO should be here this week. 😁
Do you do your presentation on a separate laptop? And get it as source ?
Yes, exactly - that works in Ecamm and vMix!
I use ATEM + Streamdeck + ECamm. As you said, it takes the load off your computer. It's more cost-effective... if ECamm (we don't like vmix) was available for PC, then I would change my opinion. Our video editing computer (custom build) would have cost like $15k in a similar mac.
Thanks for sharing!
In my opinion, the best is ATEM controled by Streamdeck with Companion software. Great Vidéo
Thanks for sharing! 👍
I had that set up at first because I got two separate 8TEMs. I got an El Gato capture card. What should i do with that?
Just answered in the video thank you!!!
I would have someone like Aaron Parecki come on the show since he is somewhat of the ATEM Guru!
Ya never know.. 😄
Photo Joseph and Here To Record are great ATEM resources as well.
Luria - By any chance, will you guys be giving away the ATEM Mini? I lost all of my streaming hear and hardware when we got broken into. I really need my equipment. Thank you
Sorry to hear about your troubles! No, no giveaways, we're using all of the equipment that we have. Remember, all you really need to start streaming is your phone! Hope things get better soon... 🤞
You are a beautiful happy woman and thank you so much for your kind information, I was struggling and trying to understand software and hardware, now I got it from you. LOve and respect from New York!
With the ATEM Mini you indeed see only one video, but the ATEM does allow for PIP so you can still do a lot
Yep! 👍
love the video but you can do the same thing with the stream deck with a diy macro keyboard for like next to nothing and use obs a free software, and I do animated graphics and client work. As not a great way of using a cameras but you can use your phone, and you can have serval phones. Great way to get started, I have done some client work where everyone was remote and we all just used discord and I screen captured for cameras and it worked out fine, so if you needed you could do it in a pinch
Yep, there are lots of ways to do things, for sure! This video focuses on the ones we get asked about most often. 👍
Can you use OBS Studio?
Probably, but you'll want to check with the manufactures on that...
Yep as long as the streaming platform allows you to use a virtual cam or has RTPM service.
At work we found Webex won't work with the native vcam in OBS but it will work with the older plugin.
How much does this cost
I always enjoy watching all you vids. Plus, you are very beautiful and you keep me laughing.
Welcome! 👋 Hope you'll be able to stop by and say hey during one of our live streams on Friday at 10:00am PT
I gotta say… you’re FUN, engaging and so likable I WANT to hear what you have to say! Continue to be your God-Given self and personality! NO ONE can beat you being YOU! (sorry if I was to “preachy”) That’s ME being ME!💕
Thanks so much for the feedback! 🎉 I hope that maybe you'll be able to stop by and say hey during one of our live streams someday! (Friday at 10:00am PT) 🙂
What about OBS?
Sure, you can use that for streaming too...
I don't think you can compare a StreamDeck with an Atem Mini, they are two different instruments that have different functions, as will be explained later in the video. As for streaming software there are professional ones like Vmix and Wirecast, it depends on what we need to do. It is a sector that passes from the home to the professional one through considerable expenses of hardware, cameras, PTZ, cables, accessories and so on and so forth.
That’s the whole point of the video 😂 you wouldn’t believe how often I get asked this question and wanted to break it down!
Seems like I don't need the atem. Stream deck, obs, and 2 $20 capture cards do the trick
Yep, not every set up needs one! 👍
just a heads up... your volume is really low, so i had my speakers cranked to hear you and then when an ad came on it was soooooo loud! might want to boost your volumes in the future ;)
i did really like this video it was very informative. I wish you talked more about the stream deck but I will see if you have a video on that alone. If I can find 2 capture cards cheaper than the one you have I might go with a streamdeck. The Atem is intriguing as being it's own "capture card". Thanks!
Holy..... Do you have a fast Autofocus
Why are you using Ecamm Live? Do you not hear the audio artifacts and the phasing going on. There is a weird and annoying swirling (phasing) in the audio. Video looks OK. Just trying to help you out, seems like you have a lot of information to help in the streaming community.
Atem should be used as an upgrade when you are really ready to be SERIOUS and have your residence WIRED
For some people, this is a handy option, but not everyone needs one. It depends on the set up. But it's great to have options like this! 👍
New!
Welcome Duane!!
New. Looking for a streaming solution for my church.
Welcome! 💃
Is this live?
yup!
I'm a new guy with big visions
Hello and welcome! Are you planning on using either of these devices?
one man production....ähm...one person production :))) otherwise good video...Thanx :)
StreamDeck
Hope you love yours as much as I love mine! 😁
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Welcome!! What kind of content are you streaming?
@@LiveStreamingPros DJ sets for right now.
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Hey there!! Do you have a stream deck, atem mini, or something else??
(5:44 mark of this video) $350.00 is inexpensive? Wow, then I am guessing you can buy me one.
Yep, it's way more affordable than many of the other options out there! 👍
@@LiveStreamingPros LOL Yeah but just because the other ones are more expensive doesnt make a $350.00 price inexpensive. If one house cost 20 million dollars and a another house (same house) cost 10 million dollars do you still think the average person would think 10 million dollars is inexpensive? Comparing prices does does not make the lesser one inexpensive.
tech is everything when you are a one man band...
So true! Are you using a device like the ATEM mini, X-Keys, or Streamdeck?
@@LiveStreamingPros i am using atem mini in combination with obs... still exploring...
That's great! 👍
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Welcome! 👋 Feel free to stop by and say hey during one of our live streams Friday at 10:00am PT 😀
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Hello and welcome! 🎉 Are you planning to try one of these?