Just watched two of your videos about ECamm and had to jump into the comments to let you know how much I appreciate your little jokes and puns! They definitely put a smile on my face. Keep up the great work!
You can definitely use NDI with OBS. Here's something that OBS has (via a plugin) that is truly mystical. You can set a video *filter* that assigns a virtual cam to any source or scene. That's in addition to the virtual camera that you can assign to the active scene. This means that when you are in Zoom or Skype, you have multiple virtual cameras from OBS available. OK, here's the kicker: you can do the same *with NDI,* which I now use instead of a virtual camera. So when I teach classes via Zoom, I set my Zoom video to a fixed OBS scene (using a dedicated NDI output filter), and use the NDI studio monitor to create a window of the main OBS ouput. When I want to screen share to my class, I share the Studio Monitor window. My students see my OBS output (at 1080p) as a shared screen in Zoom, while my Zoom camera is unchanged.
@@tombuck I actually use OBS with basically the same setup to conduct remote classes on Windows and Linux. Some of the technical work I teach is best done on Linux.
I never used OBS, started directly with Ecamm, it's 100% your fault and... I really thank you for that because it's great 👍 Hope you started the year great
When I was retiring all you could do is stream via Facebook or RUclips so I've never got into them. When people ask (and they do) I just say ECAMM. All I do is an audio podcast so life is so much easier. You do a fantastic job streaming. Good overview maybe you should do a course on ECAMM since your a good teacher!
It's so great and it only gets better! They're coming out with a pretty big release soon that adds in all kinds of overlay animations and cool stuff like that.
One tip for people that use obs and want to readjust audio levels after the live stream, you can save up to 6 audio tracks while recording. So you could use 1 for live streaming and save an additonal 5 tracks which you could later adjust / remix. Ecamm seems to be good in one particular use case (also it renders itself quite useless in some others seeing that it only runs on mac). And I think that is why you like it. And I think that if you already have a following (or have enough money to throw at it) it could certainly be worth it. But I don't see it as a program for beginners. So what is the benefit for easy to use if you have to learn an other program first, and (yes I'm quite technical so maybe bit biased) why not stay then with that program that is more powerful in my eyes. Most beginners start with lesser gear, so one of the most important parts is using audio filters (the noise reduction / noise gate / compressor certainly) are amazing to make the sound so much better. But with ecamm you have to use a different program (which makes it difficult to use) for basic filters that you certainly want if you have a bit cheaper gear. Also I think the price is a bit high for a starter, but I can see that if you get a source of income from your video's / streams that it can be worth it if it makes your work easier However I also see that as a barrier for starters, because I think the 192$ is better spend on gear in the beginning, and that will impact the stream /video more than the software. I hope they can improve both (with maybe another tier of pricing for first year or max viewer or something to make it easier to get started with), and the filters should be kindoff straightforward, so I expect that they will include that at some point (otherwise I would be quite dissappointed). Last point, do you have to change the audio delay if you change the framerate? Or does it change with the framerate? Looks like a potential thing that could mess up a stream if someone changes the framerate (I would like to see both frames and ms)
Thanks for the tip about audio in OBS! That's awesome. Ecamm can also do ISO recording for audio tracks, which is super handy. I'm not necessarily aiming this video at beginners, which I think renders the price argument a bit moot. $400 is considerably more expensive than $0, but for for working professionals or even hobbyists with a budget, it's very fair. OBS has always been powerful, and they've really worked to improve it's feature-set and reliability lately, which is awesome to see. For me though, I used OBS for years and part of my workflow included "accounting for OBS." Something would inevitably go wrong, crash, or stop working (especially when using it on a daily basis). Ecamm has never crashed or frozen on me a single time. It's not perfect, but it's incredibly reliable, and part of that is because they only have to develop it for one operating system. Great question about audio delay and framerate- it's usually a good idea to adjust it if you change. going from 30fps to 24fps might not be a huge difference, but going from 24fps to 60fps might create a bigger delay.
Just based on the length of the video, I planned to skim through or jump to various timecodes. But after that fun intro, I didn’t want to miss a moment and watched the whole thing!
Tom! I just found this video. It seems that the fix for audio sync issues with Zoom or Teams is to set OBS as the source of video & audio to keep the sync settings! Thanks!
Ecamm is awesome, and they're just about to launch an update that has some super nifty new features. Definitely some of the best money I spend each year.
Great video Tom, I started with OBS as well and it’s definitely a powerful application, It was too technical for me to use all the benefits so I made the switch to Ecamm…and I’m in love!
I think the major issue with Ecamm Live is still, that it is limited to Mac, so it would not be the option to pick in a lot of situations, eventhough it looks good. There is one thing that should have been mentioned: OBS has a NDI plugin as well. I have been using it for quite some time and it is totally stable. You can setup OBS as a NDI source or sink and I have been using this in a dual PC setup for streaming using a Linux machine for video encoding and a windows machine for content production. It would also work for video transmission between Ecamm and OBS, if you need both applications in a streaming setup for any reason.
OBS has gotten incredibly powerful, and I love that they keep adding more and more features to it. As mentioned in the video, I think Ecamm being Mac-only is really a strength since developing for a single operating system has allowed them to make it incredibly stable and reliable (much moreso than OBS in my experience- at least on Mac).
Streamyard! Haha I have to be the trouble maker of the batch. I don't use Mac so Ecamm is out for me. However I do like OBS. I don't use it for live streaming but I do for screen recording. It has SO much it can do for a free software. I love your break down of each of these Tom!
What I miss is a solution usable on iPad. It’s been 4 years since we have USB-C on iPad, but we still struggle to use external cameras and microphones in order to stream, whereas they are powerful enough.
Are used to be an ecamm junkie, and I have about 200 hours streaming on ecamm and I switched OBS to try it, and OBS basically obliterates ecamm. It’s way easier to use, it’s got tons of plug-ins that ecamm with its very proprietary Apple-ish ways will never have. The only thing OBS doesn’t do, which is only a matter of time before they fix, is multi stream. But I’ll bet there’s a plug-in that will allow me to do it. Later.
This is a great video. I am getting into streaming and I have a UAD audio interface and software. I watched this video to get info on E-Camm Live and you nailed the question I had. Individual audio tracks for my guest so I can run the tracks through my DAW and use my professional plugins for better audio. I am upgrading my basic setup piece by piece. Hope someday I can have you as a guest on my show once production begins. Thank you and keep grinding on making really great content!
Thanks for that break down and comparison. Awesome video 👏🏾 Ecamm is encamped in my mind now. I might OBliterate OBS if I can get a Mac. Another thing that’s great about it being on Mac is that Mac has great desktop switching so you could have ECamm take up an entire desktop and then switch between desktops where you might be doing something else. Your super wide monitor also helps but dual or triple monitors really help when using any of these streaming softwares! Okay I’m done talking now 😅😅
Thank for your tutorial, I am about to start my Facebook Live and your are life saver for me. I will try give a try of the 14 days package first. By the way, may I know which camera you are using? it is very clear
That's a good solution Donald! I have a feeling they'll eventually add the capability to add more, but I'm guessing it also takes a lot of power to do it. I've seen how wacky web-based apps like Streamyard can get with a lot of guests, and since Ecamm uses the computer's local power, it might cause a lot of hiccups for people. Just my theory.
@@tombuck I'm a former classroom teacher and now a technology integrator. Your videos inspired me to start making videos for our district staff with some of the same ingredients. Nowhere near your production quality but I'm working on it! ruclips.net/video/wNsPlzqiR3U/видео.html
Awesome video Tom. Yes - I’ve been debating whether to do live streams or not - this has helped me decide - I have always found your reviews and tutorials a big help - With this you did not disappoint!
This was gold mate. Thanks. About to start....but here in Melbourne...we require 25 or 50 fps :O 😮 hoping ecamm has those options, coz I got bad flickering in my studio at the moment :O
No punny intro can ever stop me to watch the video, it pumps it the right way haha... Yepp, Ecamm all the way here! OBS does offer some good audio tailoring options but then you're very dependent on a powerful (or not) machine. I know I tried to help a colleague at work with configuring for a livestream (albeit quite simple) but nope, the laptop was too weak... Btw, did you record the whole video in.... Ecamm?
I recorded some of it in Ecamm and some in Quicktime (I find that Quicktime really records in high resolution which is great for cropping in super close on UI elements).
I just wanted to see how ecamm looked, hence clicked on the video. No free license for ecamm is the only this that has discouraged me. Not everyone starts to earn within 14 days of their free trial. Also, after years of using OBS, I find that obs plugins are really really powerful, once you actually start using them. I have a raspberry pi hq camera which I use as a webcam but the 6mm lens on it had a fisheye effect on it. I discovered that you can actually “code” your own filters on obs using a plugin, and a basic algorithm solved the fisheye problem. It’s basically a windows vs linux kind of a thing I guess. One is easier to use while the other is just more personalised/customisable.
I’m a huge Ecamm fan, and even before any revenue was being earned, it was worth it for me. But I do need to say that you’re right and OBS has gotten REALLY good with recent updates. Incredibly powerful and super accessible to everyone.
Love your videos! A couple of questions. How can I do a green screen chroma key with out using a green sheet using a green graphic? Also I can’t find where to drop my lower thirds overlays so the show up for me in eCamm live?
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Awesome video! How did you record this video while demoing the software at the same time?
Great video and appreciate the time you’ve taken to so thoroughly explain the differences! By any chance, do you know if ECamm supports track matte stinger transitions? I’d actually be more inclined to make the switch if it did. Thanks in advance!
I've never used Track Matte myself, but I know lots of people use transparent video and exported Keynote animations for transitions in Ecamm. If Track Matte works in a similar way, then it should be fine.
Thanks for the kind words! I haven’t used Vmix, but I have several friends who like it. They said there’s a steep learning curve, but after that it’s really powerful. And of course OBS has gotten really good lately!
I’ve known many people who have gotten the base model Mac Mini specifically for Ecamm. Sounds a bit extreme, but if it’s a big part of your workflow it can make a big difference!
Tom, A question about those who are camera shy, or have a ‘face for radio,’ and disable (turn off) their camera: Q) How to create a Host or Guest Avatar (similar to those which appear in StreamYard or evmux when the camera is disabled / turned off) with a blinking circle to denote the Host/Guest is talking? - Note: One developer suggested putting an image in front of the camera. Well, that was a ridiculous, bordering on the outrageous, solution-to say the least! - Note: It’s already understood a file-name.png could be placed on the screen and ‘transition’ in/out. That, however, is ‘not’ a solution-as it completely negates the StreamYard or evmux -type experience (i.e., how the audience or Guests know who is talking). Any suggestions? yYM
This is a really good question! I don't have a perfect solution since I've never done it, but I've known people who have created something like this. I'd recommend starting with this tutorial video (it's based on OBS): ruclips.net/video/53d8yRUvrdQ/видео.html Even if that doesn't totally solve your issue, it might help you figure out which questions to search for next.
Hey Tom, Great video! This is exactly what I needed 👊 Excellent info and cleared up every issue I had on my plate when trying to figure out which software to use. I was willing to put time into learning OBS, but at the of the day I want turn key ease of use so my brain can focus on what I am trying to present... You had me laughing many times with your puns 😆All the best, Jay
I'm so happy to hear that Jay! Ecamm really is awesome, and the reliability has been fantastic for my workflow. Also, as a relatively new Sony user, I love your name.
Tom, I have a question for you. I’ve used ECamm Live for awhile, but I need an external mixer to help mix music. Are there any external mixers that you know of that will work with ECamm Live? If so, which ones? THANK YOU SO MUCH for your help! Larry
This was cool. Will either one of these applications allow you to control the volume of each guest on the panel? Streamyard seems to leave you at the mercy of the guest.
Haha, not outta the yard at all 😁 The biggest difference is quality and flexibility. Online solutions have fewer customization options and typically are limited to lower quality. OBS and Ecamm (since they use your computer's processing power) have way more options and can stream up to 4K at really high bitrates.
Amazing video again cheers Tom! I've got an old Canon 60D right now. And I love the simplicity of using it with Ecamm Live to record straight to my computer. It's just plugged in via USB. However, the max setting is 1080p... and combined with the low'ish bitrate from Ecamm Live, my videos don't come out as crisp (like yours)... esp on larger screens. Would simply upgrading my camera to something that can stream in 4k make a big difference to the quality? Or would it still be better for quality to record onto an SD card first and then transferring to my computer? Got NDIdeas for me on this? ;)
I really appreciate the breakdown and see the value in ecamm, but it is hard to justify paying money for something OBS can do similar for free when there are so many other costs to consider and prioritize like better audio gear, etc.
I usually have my GoPro as a USB camera source. For me, the image quality indoors really depends on lighting. If there’s A LOT of light it typically looks pretty decent.
Well, I have recent experience with Ecamm support and it is not very good. After two days of trying and watching countless youtube videos I went to OBS and was up and streaming in a couple of hours (on a windows machine). Still waiting on Ecamm support, not impressed.
Can we record 4k/30 while streaming 1080/60 on Ecamm Pro or OBS (note: loving the free Streamlab Desktop that eliminates a few of the headaches of OBS with only a small CPU penalty). Really curious to experience the workflow of ECAMM. Would most people be disappointed with the "Standard" version of ECAMM? It was helpful to hear a review of ECAMM in the context of OBS (great idea).
Hi Tom! I watched the entire episode. I was hoping for some kind of lead in to the use of the ATEM, mini pro/ATEM mini pro ISO with eCam. Based on your experience, can you use the roadcaster pro ii, ATEM mini pro ISO in combination through E Cam? I currently use 3 different camera views and my desktop computer as input into the ATEM. I have an output to a large TV monitor for all of the flow/scenes. ATEM is connected into one of my USB ports for direct recording into my computer. I use my roadcaster for all of the audio sequencing. It is connected to my computer through another USB port. I record the audio as a separate file. I use both recordings and input them into final cut pro. I typically use the switching for posting on social media sources. Occasionally do post editing with the individual recorded files. I hope the comment isn’t overly confusing. The ultimate question is, can I use both devices and direct record/live stream through eCam? I look forward to your feedback… Cheers!
Hey Dave! The short answer is yes you can use the ATEM and RCP with Ecamm. I like to connect them separately like you have yours already and then select the ATEM as my video source and the RCP as my audio source (I usually add a 4 frame delay in Ecamm to keep everything in sync). It works great and I've been using this basic setup for the past 3 years. 👍
Hey Tom, Great video! I got a ton of value from it. QUESTION: I have 2 very large monitors mounted right in front of me (left and right) on my studio desk. Connected to a powerful gaming PC. I have my Mac book pro in the middle sitting on the desk in front. My eCamm is installed on the mac laptop. Do you suggest I record and do livestreams just from my mac laptop screen? Or, can I share all the monitors and migrate (via HDMI) the eCamm Modules off of the mac and onto the big PC monitors and work from there?
Heck yes! I have my MacBook now, which I use for most of my editing since it's portable and a bit more powerful, but the Mini still handles all of my streams/video calls/podcasts, and some editing too.
Great overview! I just recorded my first live video on ECamm today. 1. It works great but I did notice it seemed a little jumpy in both the recorded version and live version. Do you have your camera set to 30fps? Mine was 24fps and I think that may have been the issue.
I have mine set to 30 because the ATEM seems to like it more, but Ecamm should be fine with anything. I keep my Ecamm settings at 60fps and it handles whatever I throw at it.
@@tombuck Thanks for the info. I like how smooth yours looks...I went through some of your livestreams and you cant even tell it is recorded live. I'll play with the settings tomorrow and try to smooth it out, but thanks for the info!
Great, light, helpful videos, Tom! Can OBS and/or eCamm Live be used within Skype for Mac? I'm struggling to find a way to do quick and easy multi-webcam switching in Skype for steel guitar lessons I teach, and now also using Loopback to deliver multiple audio sources to my students without using speakers. Really appreciate guidance you can offer.
I usually use either an Elgato CamLink or ATEM Mini. Some newer cameras can just be connected via USB and then they show up as a source in Ecamm/OBS. 👍
Hi Tom, great video again! I use OBS to record myself playing the piano with multiple camera-angles. I tried Ecamm, but apparently it is not possible to record multiple audio sources (different inputs of my audio interface) in a way, that they are contained as separate audio tracks in a .mov file. And this in PCM-encoding. This is the way, I do it with OBS. Do you think, this is possible with Ecamm? Greetings from Vienna!
This has been driving me crazy. I’ve been trialing ECamm for a week. Using iPad apps for backing tracks as well as sharing the iPad screen and adding guitar horns and vocals.
Nice video, thanks. You mentioned being able to record isolated audio tracks will it do isolated video if you lets say have a panel of 2 or more people? Also, I saw someone’s ecamm stream and when they switched between scenes their camera slid in from off screen, Which really looked professional. How do you do that? Thx again.
Ecamm doesn't offer isolated video, but Riverside.fm does. I think that's the best bet if you want audio and video form a guest (plus they don't have to do anything, the files get saved to your account automatically).
"If you have a Canon w/ 30min record limit you won't have to worry about that" ...the issue with Canon cameras isn't a record time limit, it's an auto shut-off that cuts off the image to whatever output source you're using, even eCamm. Unless I'm missing something..?
isnt the problem for the payed versions that OBS can actually do what they all can do? i was looking for streamlabs because of multi streaming, tipping situation, merch store etc, seems like everything at one place, that was one reason I consider. but for now, obs it is
The easiest way to do that would be with an HDMI capture card (something like the Elgato CamLink). You'll be able to select your camera as an audio source since HDMI carries an audio signal.
ive been using ecamn live for church on youtube but the audio suck when playing live music via logic pro. and you having the same issue? ECAMN is good for talk shows but not live and music. the major problem with ECAMN is you cant adjust the bitrate ( VIDEO) and kbps (AUDIO) and that a MAJOR problem as an encorder. please advise
My biggest issues with OBS have been sources sleeping when not using it/booting back up. I have had three PCs and on every single one I have to go tweak something every. time. I. Stream just to get the video or audio to continue working the way it was when I closed OBS after my last stream/recording. Has anyone expreinced this with OBS and is anyone experiencing this woth Ecamm?
Came for the streaming software, stayed for the dad jokes. 🤣🤣🤣
The complete package 😬
Same. The puns are "spontaneous"!
Just watched two of your videos about ECamm and had to jump into the comments to let you know how much I appreciate your little jokes and puns! They definitely put a smile on my face. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much Savannah! Really means a lot to hear that (sometimes people aren’t a fan of the wordplay).
You can definitely use NDI with OBS.
Here's something that OBS has (via a plugin) that is truly mystical. You can set a video *filter* that assigns a virtual cam to any source or scene. That's in addition to the virtual camera that you can assign to the active scene. This means that when you are in Zoom or Skype, you have multiple virtual cameras from OBS available.
OK, here's the kicker: you can do the same *with NDI,* which I now use instead of a virtual camera. So when I teach classes via Zoom, I set my Zoom video to a fixed OBS scene (using a dedicated NDI output filter), and use the NDI studio monitor to create a window of the main OBS ouput. When I want to screen share to my class, I share the Studio Monitor window. My students see my OBS output (at 1080p) as a shared screen in Zoom, while my Zoom camera is unchanged.
That IS magical! The potential to expand OBS with a little know-how and problem solving is limitless. 🤯
@@tombuck I actually use OBS with basically the same setup to conduct remote classes on Windows and Linux. Some of the technical work I teach is best done on Linux.
I never used OBS, started directly with Ecamm, it's 100% your fault and... I really thank you for that because it's great 👍 Hope you started the year great
I will 100% accept the blame for this.
When I was retiring all you could do is stream via Facebook or RUclips so I've never got into them. When people ask (and they do) I just say ECAMM. All I do is an audio podcast so life is so much easier. You do a fantastic job streaming. Good overview maybe you should do a course on ECAMM since your a good teacher!
Oooh an Ecamm course! That's a fun idea!
@@tombuck I'm full of great ideas...LOL
You should do an Ecamm course :) We'd love that.
@@EcammLive sorry but the price is a scam
Ecamm is just so easy to make a stream look good- I don’t even stream much but like it just for the easy plug and play for a amateur
It's so great and it only gets better! They're coming out with a pretty big release soon that adds in all kinds of overlay animations and cool stuff like that.
Thanks for being part of the Ecamm Fam!
One tip for people that use obs and want to readjust audio levels after the live stream, you can save up to 6 audio tracks while recording. So you could use 1 for live streaming and save an additonal 5 tracks which you could later adjust / remix.
Ecamm seems to be good in one particular use case (also it renders itself quite useless in some others seeing that it only runs on mac). And I think that is why you like it. And I think that if you already have a following (or have enough money to throw at it) it could certainly be worth it.
But I don't see it as a program for beginners. So what is the benefit for easy to use if you have to learn an other program first, and (yes I'm quite technical so maybe bit biased) why not stay then with that program that is more powerful in my eyes.
Most beginners start with lesser gear, so one of the most important parts is using audio filters (the noise reduction / noise gate / compressor certainly) are amazing to make the sound so much better. But with ecamm you have to use a different program (which makes it difficult to use) for basic filters that you certainly want if you have a bit cheaper gear.
Also I think the price is a bit high for a starter, but I can see that if you get a source of income from your video's / streams that it can be worth it if it makes your work easier
However I also see that as a barrier for starters, because I think the 192$ is better spend on gear in the beginning, and that will impact the stream /video more than the software.
I hope they can improve both (with maybe another tier of pricing for first year or max viewer or something to make it easier to get started with), and the filters should be kindoff straightforward, so I expect that they will include that at some point (otherwise I would be quite dissappointed).
Last point, do you have to change the audio delay if you change the framerate? Or does it change with the framerate? Looks like a potential thing that could mess up a stream if someone changes the framerate (I would like to see both frames and ms)
Thanks for the tip about audio in OBS! That's awesome. Ecamm can also do ISO recording for audio tracks, which is super handy.
I'm not necessarily aiming this video at beginners, which I think renders the price argument a bit moot. $400 is considerably more expensive than $0, but for for working professionals or even hobbyists with a budget, it's very fair.
OBS has always been powerful, and they've really worked to improve it's feature-set and reliability lately, which is awesome to see. For me though, I used OBS for years and part of my workflow included "accounting for OBS." Something would inevitably go wrong, crash, or stop working (especially when using it on a daily basis). Ecamm has never crashed or frozen on me a single time. It's not perfect, but it's incredibly reliable, and part of that is because they only have to develop it for one operating system.
Great question about audio delay and framerate- it's usually a good idea to adjust it if you change. going from 30fps to 24fps might not be a huge difference, but going from 24fps to 60fps might create a bigger delay.
Just based on the length of the video, I planned to skim through or jump to various timecodes. But after that fun intro, I didn’t want to miss a moment and watched the whole thing!
This is one of the best things someone who makes videos can hear, thank you! 🙏
Your intro bad puns are wonderful. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks, will do!
Tom! I just found this video. It seems that the fix for audio sync issues with Zoom or Teams is to set OBS as the source of video & audio to keep the sync settings! Thanks!
OMG I never knew how to squeeze the footage in OBS!!! That makes so much sense and makes it so easy lol
Aaron Parecki showed me how to do it in the ATEM software too, which is really handy.
I tried Ecamm live this week and I love it! Awesome video!
Ecamm is so much fun to dive into! I recommend the Facebook group for sure to see all kinds of awesome ways that people use it.
Thanks Randy!
Thank you so much! switching to eCamm and this is a great intro!
Ecamm is awesome, and they're just about to launch an update that has some super nifty new features. Definitely some of the best money I spend each year.
**COUGH** Canon…I laughed so hard knowing how you feel about this. Really fair comparison between both. Awesome Tom!
Haha, thanks! That record limit is just nonsense. Seems like they're finally starting to release cameras without it though!
Great video Tom, I started with OBS as well and it’s definitely a powerful application, It was too technical for me to use all the benefits so I made the switch to Ecamm…and I’m in love!
Yes! It's hard not to love Ecamm once you make the leap.
Love it, Samantha. Thanks for choosing Ecamm.
I think the major issue with Ecamm Live is still, that it is limited to Mac, so it would not be the option to pick in a lot of situations, eventhough it looks good.
There is one thing that should have been mentioned: OBS has a NDI plugin as well. I have been using it for quite some time and it is totally stable. You can setup OBS as a NDI source or sink and I have been using this in a dual PC setup for streaming using a Linux machine for video encoding and a windows machine for content production.
It would also work for video transmission between Ecamm and OBS, if you need both applications in a streaming setup for any reason.
OBS has gotten incredibly powerful, and I love that they keep adding more and more features to it. As mentioned in the video, I think Ecamm being Mac-only is really a strength since developing for a single operating system has allowed them to make it incredibly stable and reliable (much moreso than OBS in my experience- at least on Mac).
Tom looks so sharp he’s shooting with future tech
Streamyard! Haha I have to be the trouble maker of the batch. I don't use Mac so Ecamm is out for me. However I do like OBS. I don't use it for live streaming but I do for screen recording. It has SO much it can do for a free software. I love your break down of each of these Tom!
OBS is pretty amazing for sure. And I'm really happy to see that they've overhauled it quite a bit and added a lot of great new features!
What I miss is a solution usable on iPad. It’s been 4 years since we have USB-C on iPad, but we still struggle to use external cameras and microphones in order to stream, whereas they are powerful enough.
Jeeezzzz today’s vid looks crazy clear… are u in 30fps?
This was 30 since I was doing some screen recordings with the ATEM 👍
Wow, Ecamm looks amazing, definitely going to check it out. Thanks for the video!
It's absolutely worth it! I use it almost every day for one thing or another.
Are used to be an ecamm junkie, and I have about 200 hours streaming on ecamm and I switched OBS to try it, and OBS basically obliterates ecamm. It’s way easier to use, it’s got tons of plug-ins that ecamm with its very proprietary Apple-ish ways will never have. The only thing OBS doesn’t do, which is only a matter of time before they fix, is multi stream. But I’ll bet there’s a plug-in that will allow me to do it. Later.
This is a great video. I am getting into streaming and I have a UAD audio interface and software. I watched this video to get info on E-Camm Live and you nailed the question I had. Individual audio tracks for my guest so I can run the tracks through my DAW and use my professional plugins for better audio. I am upgrading my basic setup piece by piece. Hope someday I can have you as a guest on my show once production begins. Thank you and keep grinding on making really great content!
I’m so happy that it was helpful! Good luck with your project!
Love Love love ecamm and I can't live without it
Thanks Sammy!
Thanks for that break down and comparison. Awesome video 👏🏾 Ecamm is encamped in my mind now. I might OBliterate OBS if I can get a Mac.
Another thing that’s great about it being on Mac is that Mac has great desktop switching so you could have ECamm take up an entire desktop and then switch between desktops where you might be doing something else. Your super wide monitor also helps but dual or triple monitors really help when using any of these streaming softwares! Okay I’m done talking now 😅😅
Why stop at triple monitors- let's quadruple everything!
(I don't mean that sarcastically, it'd be amazing 😁)
@@tombuck OBhave Tom!
You can absolutely use NDI together with OBS. It is better to use prisual ndi camera
You can also change your display modules on OBS as well, and you can get an NDI plugin for OBS. Got to love opensource software. 😁
There are so many benefits to open source! It really is awesome.
@@tombuck ecmm is a scamm
Really like your content. It's fresh and different.
THANK YOU! It's really awesome to hear this. 🙏
Thanks for breaking this down, Tom!
Thanks for giving me an awesome tool to break down!
Thank for your tutorial, I am about to start my Facebook Live and your are life saver for me. I will try give a try of the 14 days package first.
By the way, may I know which camera you are using? it is very clear
I'm happy it was helpful!
My main camera is the Sony FX3 with the Sony 24mm 1.4 lens 👍
Good morning Tom, thanks for the more in-depth explanation on both of these software streaming programs. Cleared up a lot of questions.
I'm so happy to hear that! They're both pretty excellent overall 👍
Thanks Tom Buck!! Just what I needed.
Glad it helped Mark!
Ecamm is missing a key feature for me. Built-in guest conferencing for more than 4 guests. If they add that, I'd probably use it.
Ecamm has the ability to handle 4 guest and you can use NDI to bring in more guest via Zoom or NDI tools 🤓
That's a good solution Donald! I have a feeling they'll eventually add the capability to add more, but I'm guessing it also takes a lot of power to do it. I've seen how wacky web-based apps like Streamyard can get with a lot of guests, and since Ecamm uses the computer's local power, it might cause a lot of hiccups for people.
Just my theory.
We've had that feedback and are looking into it. Thanks Jedha!
Good timing, I was just wondering what program to install for this job. However, as a Windows user, the choice should be clear.
I think there's an application called Vmix that a lot of Windows users like, but I haven't used it myself. I would go with OBS.
Thanks, Tom. Your reviews are fun and full of helpful content, always clearly explained. I enjoy learning in your virtual classroom.
It really makes my day to hear this, thanks Bill!
@@tombuck I'm a former classroom teacher and now a technology integrator. Your videos inspired me to start making videos for our district staff with some of the same ingredients. Nowhere near your production quality but I'm working on it! ruclips.net/video/wNsPlzqiR3U/видео.html
Great Video Tom, all of the NDI stuff and lots more like lower thirds is possible in OBS as well
OBS is incredibly powerful. 👍
NDI sounds amazing w/ecamm. Is it an actual app in the App Store? Looks like a lot of different apps under the NDI name
Great vid!
For me this is a tutorial about how to make a tutorial. Good Job !
Is it possible to show the key commands I'm currently using?
I'm not sure about OBS, but in Ecamm your key commands are shown in the Overlay and Scenes windows and you can click to change them there too.
Ecamm live. Hands down 👍
Hands down, thumbs up 👍
Thanks Lee!
@@EcammLive not a problem! I recommend it you guys all the time ♥️♥️
Awesome video Tom. Yes - I’ve been debating whether to do live streams or not - this has helped me decide - I have always found your reviews and tutorials a big help - With this you did not disappoint!
Thank you! It means a lot to hear that! I'm happy that the videos have been helpful. 🙏
This was gold mate. Thanks.
About to start....but here in Melbourne...we require 25 or 50 fps :O 😮 hoping ecamm has those options, coz I got bad flickering in my studio at the moment :O
Ecamm does have both 25 and 50fps as options 👍
Good luck with everything!
Dude that “Nsync or Backstreet” line made me LOL 😂 😅
I aim to please 😬
Very helpful. Thank you. As a beginner I think I will start with OBS but I CAMM open to ECAMM in the future. Thanks Tom!
_Will
That's a great way to go! Both options are great, but starting with the free one is definitely smart.
No punny intro can ever stop me to watch the video, it pumps it the right way haha... Yepp, Ecamm all the way here!
OBS does offer some good audio tailoring options but then you're very dependent on a powerful (or not) machine. I know I tried to help a colleague at work with configuring for a livestream (albeit quite simple) but nope, the laptop was too weak...
Btw, did you record the whole video in.... Ecamm?
I recorded some of it in Ecamm and some in Quicktime (I find that Quicktime really records in high resolution which is great for cropping in super close on UI elements).
Thanks Homesick Mac!
I just wanted to see how ecamm looked, hence clicked on the video. No free license for ecamm is the only this that has discouraged me. Not everyone starts to earn within 14 days of their free trial. Also, after years of using OBS, I find that obs plugins are really really powerful, once you actually start using them. I have a raspberry pi hq camera which I use as a webcam but the 6mm lens on it had a fisheye effect on it. I discovered that you can actually “code” your own filters on obs using a plugin, and a basic algorithm solved the fisheye problem. It’s basically a windows vs linux kind of a thing I guess. One is easier to use while the other is just more personalised/customisable.
I’m a huge Ecamm fan, and even before any revenue was being earned, it was worth it for me. But I do need to say that you’re right and OBS has gotten REALLY good with recent updates. Incredibly powerful and super accessible to everyone.
I wish they'd add the widget feature to the standard subscription for ecamm, i didn't renew my pro subscription due to the cost =[
Ahh, yeah the widget thing is pretty fantastic and opens up a lot of options.
Love your videos! A couple of questions. How can I do a green screen chroma key with out using a green sheet using a green graphic? Also I can’t find where to drop my lower thirds overlays so the show up for me in eCamm live?
Awesome video! How did you record this video while demoing the software at the same time?
I usually use QuickTime to do screen recordings when needed 👍
Great video and appreciate the time you’ve taken to so thoroughly explain the differences! By any chance, do you know if ECamm supports track matte stinger transitions? I’d actually be more inclined to make the switch if it did. Thanks in advance!
I've never used Track Matte myself, but I know lots of people use transparent video and exported Keynote animations for transitions in Ecamm. If Track Matte works in a similar way, then it should be fine.
I love OBS because there's a plugin for everything.
This has everything i need dream come true
Your name hiding behind the chair, DEL CARAJO! (SUPER COOL)
Thanks man! I wondered if anyone would notice that 😬
PC user for the most part 🤦♂️🤦♂️ Is V-Mix doable? What are your thoughts on VMix? Love your channel..You are my "go-to".
Thanks for the kind words! I haven’t used Vmix, but I have several friends who like it. They said there’s a steep learning curve, but after that it’s really powerful. And of course OBS has gotten really good lately!
Ok I’m sold thanks Mr. Buck
Love your intros 😁😁😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! I try to make them as interesting as possible 😁
Hey thanks for sharing. I was so pumped about ecamm but I don’t have a Mac 🥺
I’ve known many people who have gotten the base model Mac Mini specifically for Ecamm. Sounds a bit extreme, but if it’s a big part of your workflow it can make a big difference!
You can now do the mobile phone cam thing on OBS, too. I think it's called OBS Ninja.
That is very cool! Glad they keep making it better and better 👍
OBS is running on Ubuntu, too. 🚀
Ubuntu? You’re South Africa 🇿🇦?
@@SA_Mlambo No. Ubuntu is quite popular worldwide;-)
great review.
Tom,
A question about those who are camera shy, or have a ‘face for radio,’ and disable (turn off) their camera:
Q) How to create a Host or Guest Avatar (similar to those which appear in StreamYard or evmux when the camera is disabled / turned off) with a blinking circle to denote the Host/Guest is talking?
- Note: One developer suggested putting an image in front of the camera. Well, that was a ridiculous, bordering on the outrageous, solution-to say the least!
- Note: It’s already understood a file-name.png could be placed on the screen and ‘transition’ in/out. That, however, is ‘not’ a solution-as it completely negates the StreamYard or evmux -type experience (i.e., how the audience or Guests know who is talking).
Any suggestions?
yYM
This is a really good question! I don't have a perfect solution since I've never done it, but I've known people who have created something like this. I'd recommend starting with this tutorial video (it's based on OBS): ruclips.net/video/53d8yRUvrdQ/видео.html
Even if that doesn't totally solve your issue, it might help you figure out which questions to search for next.
Hey Tom, Great video! This is exactly what I needed 👊 Excellent info and cleared up every issue I had on my plate when trying to figure out which software to use. I was willing to put time into learning OBS, but at the of the day I want turn key ease of use so my brain can focus on what I am trying to present... You had me laughing many times with your puns 😆All the best, Jay
I'm so happy to hear that Jay! Ecamm really is awesome, and the reliability has been fantastic for my workflow.
Also, as a relatively new Sony user, I love your name.
Tom, I have a question for you. I’ve used ECamm Live for awhile, but I need an external mixer to help mix music.
Are there any external mixers that you know of that will work with ECamm Live? If so, which ones?
THANK YOU SO MUCH for your help!
Larry
Hey Larry! Any USB mixer will work. My tool of choice is definitely the Rodecaster Pro 2 👍
This was cool. Will either one of these applications allow you to control the volume of each guest on the panel? Streamyard seems to leave you at the mercy of the guest.
Ecamm gives you a volume slider for guest audio- I'm not sure about OBS, but I feel like there must be a way to do it there too.
How does this differ from an online solution, such as Streamyard? Or am I way outta the yard? 🤔
Haha, not outta the yard at all 😁
The biggest difference is quality and flexibility. Online solutions have fewer customization options and typically are limited to lower quality. OBS and Ecamm (since they use your computer's processing power) have way more options and can stream up to 4K at really high bitrates.
Came for OBS, stayed for the sweater.
Thank you StitchFix!
Great video. You looked so clear too.
Thanks! I'm really getting the hang of that Sony life I think.
Do Eccam have green screen? And if so,do they have it for the standard plan?
Yep! It's included in all plans 👍
I am very interested in using Ecamm Live on my M1 MacBook Pro. Although I am hesitant as I got a 8GB model.
I’ve been using it in my 8gb M1 Mini for over a year 👍
@@tombuck I appreciate your feedback brother. Once I return from Qatar on this 6 month deployment I will give Ecamm a try.
Amazing video again cheers Tom! I've got an old Canon 60D right now. And I love the simplicity of using it with Ecamm Live to record straight to my computer. It's just plugged in via USB. However, the max setting is 1080p... and combined with the low'ish bitrate from Ecamm Live, my videos don't come out as crisp (like yours)... esp on larger screens. Would simply upgrading my camera to something that can stream in 4k make a big difference to the quality? Or would it still be better for quality to record onto an SD card first and then transferring to my computer? Got NDIdeas for me on this? ;)
I really appreciate the breakdown and see the value in ecamm, but it is hard to justify paying money for something OBS can do similar for free when there are so many other costs to consider and prioritize like better audio gear, etc.
Do you use a GoPro with Ecamm ? How ? When ? For me the image quality is bad. It shows too much noise.
I usually have my GoPro as a USB camera source. For me, the image quality indoors really depends on lighting. If there’s A LOT of light it typically looks pretty decent.
Well, I have recent experience with Ecamm support and it is not very good. After two days of trying and watching countless youtube videos I went to OBS and was up and streaming in a couple of hours (on a windows machine). Still waiting on Ecamm support, not impressed.
Can we record 4k/30 while streaming 1080/60 on Ecamm Pro or OBS (note: loving the free Streamlab Desktop that eliminates a few of the headaches of OBS with only a small CPU penalty). Really curious to experience the workflow of ECAMM. Would most people be disappointed with the "Standard" version of ECAMM? It was helpful to hear a review of ECAMM in the context of OBS (great idea).
Hi Tom!
I watched the entire episode. I was hoping for some kind of lead in to the use of the ATEM, mini pro/ATEM mini pro ISO with eCam.
Based on your experience, can you use the roadcaster pro ii, ATEM mini pro ISO in combination through E Cam?
I currently use 3 different camera views and my desktop computer as input into the ATEM. I have an output to a large TV monitor for all of the flow/scenes. ATEM is connected into one of my USB ports for direct recording into my computer.
I use my roadcaster for all of the audio sequencing. It is connected to my computer through another USB port. I record the audio as a separate file.
I use both recordings and input them into final cut pro. I typically use the switching for posting on social media sources. Occasionally do post editing with the individual recorded files.
I hope the comment isn’t overly confusing. The ultimate question is, can I use both devices and direct record/live stream through eCam?
I look forward to your feedback… Cheers!
Hey Dave!
The short answer is yes you can use the ATEM and RCP with Ecamm. I like to connect them separately like you have yours already and then select the ATEM as my video source and the RCP as my audio source (I usually add a 4 frame delay in Ecamm to keep everything in sync).
It works great and I've been using this basic setup for the past 3 years. 👍
great review, thanks!
You’re welcome!
Hey Tom, Great video! I got a ton of value from it. QUESTION: I have 2 very large monitors mounted right in front of me (left and right) on my studio desk. Connected to a powerful gaming PC. I have my Mac book pro in the middle sitting on the desk in front. My eCamm is installed on the mac laptop. Do you suggest I record and do livestreams just from my mac laptop screen? Or, can I share all the monitors and migrate (via HDMI) the eCamm Modules off of the mac and onto the big PC monitors and work from there?
Are you still using your mini M1?
Heck yes! I have my MacBook now, which I use for most of my editing since it's portable and a bit more powerful, but the Mini still handles all of my streams/video calls/podcasts, and some editing too.
Great video, very informative! Love the puns too. :)
Great overview! I just recorded my first live video on ECamm today. 1. It works great but I did notice it seemed a little jumpy in both the recorded version and live version. Do you have your camera set to 30fps? Mine was 24fps and I think that may have been the issue.
I have mine set to 30 because the ATEM seems to like it more, but Ecamm should be fine with anything. I keep my Ecamm settings at 60fps and it handles whatever I throw at it.
@@tombuck Thanks for the info. I like how smooth yours looks...I went through some of your livestreams and you cant even tell it is recorded live. I'll play with the settings tomorrow and try to smooth it out, but thanks for the info!
Great, light, helpful videos, Tom! Can OBS and/or eCamm Live be used within Skype for Mac? I'm struggling to find a way to do quick and easy multi-webcam switching in Skype for steel guitar lessons I teach, and now also using Loopback to deliver multiple audio sources to my students without using speakers. Really appreciate guidance you can offer.
Yes, you should be able to use the virtual cam from either application! 👍
Which NDI App did you install on your iPhone? There are many...
I have two: NDI HX Camera to use the camera and NDI HX Capture to share my phone's screen.
And this is why Xplit could never compete with OBS and I can describe it using one word... "PRICING"
which boom mic are you using in this video?
This was the Sennheiser MKH-50 running directly into my Sony FX3 👍
How do you connect your digital camera to your computer for a automatic live streams
I usually use either an Elgato CamLink or ATEM Mini. Some newer cameras can just be connected via USB and then they show up as a source in Ecamm/OBS. 👍
Nice & Thanks :)
Hi Tom, great video again! I use OBS to record myself playing the piano with multiple camera-angles. I tried Ecamm, but apparently it is not possible to record multiple audio sources (different inputs of my audio interface) in a way, that they are contained as separate audio tracks in a .mov file. And this in PCM-encoding. This is the way, I do it with OBS. Do you think, this is possible with Ecamm? Greetings from Vienna!
In Ecamm's audio settings there's an option to "Enable ISO Recording" and then you'll get a separate track for each audio input 👍
Yeah, great to hear! Many thanks for your response! 😀
This has been driving me crazy. I’ve been trialing ECamm for a week. Using iPad apps for backing tracks as well as sharing the iPad screen and adding guitar horns and vocals.
Can you record your screen in e-commerce?
Yep! You can easily share or record your screen in either application 👍
Nice video, thanks. You mentioned being able to record isolated audio tracks will it do isolated video if you lets say have a panel of 2 or more people? Also, I saw someone’s ecamm stream and when they switched between scenes their camera slid in from off screen, Which really looked professional. How do you do that? Thx again.
Ecamm doesn't offer isolated video, but Riverside.fm does. I think that's the best bet if you want audio and video form a guest (plus they don't have to do anything, the files get saved to your account automatically).
"If you have a Canon w/ 30min record limit you won't have to worry about that" ...the issue with Canon cameras isn't a record time limit, it's an auto shut-off that cuts off the image to whatever output source you're using, even eCamm. Unless I'm missing something..?
You can disable auto power off in most models.
isnt the problem for the payed versions that OBS can actually do what they all can do? i was looking for streamlabs because of multi streaming, tipping situation, merch store etc, seems like everything at one place, that was one reason I consider. but for now, obs it is
Can I use the microphone from my camera as a microphone on mac?
The easiest way to do that would be with an HDMI capture card (something like the Elgato CamLink). You'll be able to select your camera as an audio source since HDMI carries an audio signal.
I have been wanting to try ecamm, but i can't since I don't have a mac.
That’s the limiting part but it’s SO good!
ive been using ecamn live for church on youtube but the audio suck when playing live music via logic pro. and you having the same issue? ECAMN is good for talk shows but not live and music. the major problem with ECAMN is you cant adjust the bitrate ( VIDEO) and kbps (AUDIO) and that a MAJOR problem as an encorder. please advise
Does Ecamm allow you to chose higher quality encoding on a Mac with a dedicated graphics card? Would a Mac studio encode even better?
There’s not a ton of granular control over encoding, really just video size/resolution.
So the Pro version of ECAMM Live can record and stream in 4K? What about OBS? I really wish the ATEM Mini could stream in 4K :(
Both apps can do 4K 👍
@@tombuck ECAMM Live is moving to the #1 spot over the ATEM Mini XD
OBS is better, actually not even a question, but if u want, you can use ECAMM.
#TeamOBS
Did you tried evmux?
I haven't heard of that one yet.
@@tombuck Give it a shot ;)
Web says ECAMM Live is Mac only. Is this correct?
Yes, it’s Mac Only. I’ve had several friends decide to get the base model Mac Mini just to run Ecamm (it is really nice software!)
My biggest issues with OBS have been sources sleeping when not using it/booting back up. I have had three PCs and on every single one I have to go tweak something every. time. I. Stream just to get the video or audio to continue working the way it was when I closed OBS after my last stream/recording. Has anyone expreinced this with OBS and is anyone experiencing this woth Ecamm?
OBS is great but sadly unusable on my I7 Mac Mini due to fans ramping up. Any ideas? I don't like the Ecamm GUI.
The fans are just part of that Intel life. It's a big reason why I got the M1 Mac Mini.
@@tombuck Gotcha