Old School Kung Fu Training HURTS
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- In this video I tried Kung Fu Conditioning of my Muscles, Knuckles and Spirit!
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That dude is a stud. He is, as the kids say, "built different."
I think alot of martial artists go through a process where they start off with reverence for traditional training, then they grow into thinking its silly because its not directly applicable to combat, then they grow into realizing why it was done that way and how it might be valuable. Sometimes you've got to remind yourself that modern athletic training with purpose built equipment (weights, bars, machines, chains, etc.) is less than 100 years old. Does that mean that humans weren't interested in physical training before that? No of course not.
That is a really great story about his training in San Francisco.
Did you ever watch the old, Japanese version of Ninja Warrior? The first ever winner was a fisherman who worked his boat all by himself and his strength-to-weight ration and grip strength was absurd because he spent all day climbing rigging, working lines, etc. This video made me think of that.
Almost every martial artist that pressure tests their art goes through this - it's the journey you have to take. First, you learn the form. Then you test the form, and you realize that you have no idea what you are doing in a real fight. Afterward you learn how to apply the form to an actual fight. Sometimes training is not what it seems at first. Horse stance to strengthen legs for forced sweeps was a FANTASTIC example of that reality.
I grew up scrapping with friends. We'd go 100%, save for strikes to the face which were more like 70-80% (and carefully placed) so we didn't lose teeth or end up with a broken nose. Just roughhouse boys who didn't care much if it hurt - fighting was fun for us, so we did it every day. So as I learned various martial arts, every single thing was pressure tested immediately. I didn't go step by step... it just all happened together, in messy fashion. And because I was learning more than one martial art at the same time, I never got caught up in reverence for any particular martial art as "the best one" (although I do have favorites: aikido, ninjitsu, tai chi... all of them are hard to learn how to apply, as good teachers for that don't especially exist - and in the case of ninjitsu, almost no teachers exist at all these days). I did grow up in karate first though, hence a nostalgic draw to channels like this one. I adore seeing Seth try other martial arts, as it reminds me of my youth.
Seth, my man - your legs are lazy. When you practice karate, bend your knees slightly more so that you are 1-2 inches shorter than you usually stand. It will increase your power and flexibility, improve your form and balance, and you'll be considerably faster and more fluid in the way that you fight. It's critical to be able to "change levels" when you fight - but when you practice standing so tall like you do, you never develop the leg muscle conditioning to change levels. Nor do you get the muscle memory for it. Best tip I can give a young black belt.
Key word is all day ,bro spent all day working his muscle and tendon ,in today training you wont do more than 4 to 6 hour
I remember that fisherman. Makoto Nagano is a legend in Ninja Warrior
Yeah, it's almost like they knew what they were doing. ; )
Traditional martial arts work, but they were developed by people who fought with hand weapons, worked fields, and didn't have an alternative means of entertainment besides training their bodies and hitting trees. They were meant for a more practical generation, and one less focused on the type of chemical and resource surplus that we have today. Easy to get big when you have testosterone and limitless food; hard to stay healthy in limited resource environments with less advanced medical care. They're very intelligent, taken in context of their environment, and still useful for the same reasons today.
I love what you said. Lately my muay thai training is starting to look like "esoteric" martial arts.
Wide movements, holding balls of energy and repetitive spins, and I should incorporate some conditioning.
It's picking up an imaginary moment in time whee something happens that I'm bad at, and I repeat training that bit. Multiple spinning kicks, holding an imaginary opponent and pushing him over and over... They would all look weird to someone who's new to muay Thai.
Isn't the shin conditioning in the video cool? I like what the arm is doing, it's doing what it should do while kicking.
I trained with Sifu Chris for a short time before I left NC almost 10 years ago. Can confirm, it is very painful.
Probably because you did not follow simple directions to sweep the leg.
did you find the monkey though?
@Benja Sa Bukid Sifu Chris competed in full contact fighting if I recall correctly.
Too bad kung fu is bs pick a real discipline like Ameri-do-ta lol
@Benja Sa Bukid usually when you're learning the traditional way you do do a lot more sparring
I don't do tma but practiced the horse stance because I figured it had to be good to have been kept this long. My shots and sprawls seemed a little better after practicing for a while. Pretty interesting stuff
Practice practice practice leads to mastery
My coach would put the entire class in horse stance and see who could stay in it for the longest. Many of the students thought it would be no sweat, but changed their tune real quick after a couple minutes.
At the very least, it's a great bodyweight leg exercise.
Sprawls?
@@fabioooh Yes, one of the first applications for horse stance is takedown defense. The way you jump into horse and put your hands out is a sprawl.
you know in Hong Kong. Training kung fu will also call "eating night Congee" (in chinese it call 食夜粥) Because in olden time of Hong Kong, Kung Fu students always came to learn Kung Fu from thier master after school or after work. After a hard training, wife of the Kung Fu master will prepare some congee for the students.
Ha or before work. Sometimes wake up very early and train in the park.
Now I want congee and eggs
Mmm, juk.
Whole video brought a smile to my face. Sifu Chris put you through those paces. Smiled when he talked about where Kung Fu was trained. Yes I’ve had to train in parking lots, stairwells, even at a bus station. But for me, training in the park is the best. Go to Mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, your local Chinatown, you’ll see people training Kung Fu in the park. Again thank you Sensei Seth!
nice, do you teach also🥸👍🏽
@Lucky Mark777 That’s a good question my co worker thinks it’s a scam🥸👍🏽
@Lucky Mark777 Probably a bot. Yes I received this message.
Good lord I was in the park some 5-6 hours every day of the week as a kid. it was essentially a full time job. Then after we finished I would go eat at Sifu's house and we would play chess and he would tell me about his life.
Taiwan doesn't teach real Kung fu. Only wushu performance.
Seeing Seth do finger push-up with ease gives me an appreciation of how tough he really is.
I tried it for fun. I'm good at normal push ups but could barely do one on my fingers
I didnt think finger pushups were to bad, but you do need to do nuckle pushups first. Although unlike that guy I do my knuckle pushups on my first two knuckles not my last three.
@@calebfielding6352 when I do finger pushups my joints go “Nope!” I mean I can do them but it’s like putting myself in an armbar while doing bicep curls.
@@kevintse2870 Dont start with finger pushups. Do knuckle pushups first. Do it only on your first two knuckles. Once you can do those without issue, you will not have any trouble doing them on your fingers. The knuckle pushups strengthens everything in your hand.
Note, do not try to do knuckle pushups on all your knuckles, you must do them either on your front two knuckles, or back two knuckles, although i only do it on my front two since that was how I was taught to punch.
I can't do push ups unless they're the modified knee ones, and with those only ten-twenty.
Sifu Chris looks like the real deal, much respect.
Tibetan Hop Gar Gongfu has a lot of similarities to Choy Li Fut.
My grandfather was Choy Li Fut, it's a shame that he died of lung cancer before he could teach my mother anything. Grandmother said girls shouldn't do something so unlady-like. That was in the 60s though, and I'm sure if he was alive today he wouldn't have had any issues with teaching whatever gender or age, kung fu.
I noticed that, the long boxing, long sweeping arms, so Choy Lee Fat! :D
There is a Hop Gar school that teaches Choy Li Fut as well in Glens Falls NY
Excellent compliment systems
They have a common ancestry.
Our Grandmaster David Chin had done a good bit of Law Horn/Fut Ga/Choy Li Fut before he met Sifu Ng Yim-Ming and learned the full Hop Gar system from him. There are definitely times in history when the Fut Ga/Choy Li Fut masters had overlap and interaction with Hop Gar masters
Oh, 💩 I know Chris from my San Da days! He's a legit absolute BEAST! Keeping the real Kung Fu alive. Not many like him left. Nice to see Chris getting the recognition he deserves.👏👏
Did you do this kind of training in Sanshou classes?
I usually don't leave comments and keep my martial arts background to myself. But I like your spirit how you giving a chance to all the styles and try to train with them , understand they're style and learn from them. I don't teach anymore but I used to tell my student not to be a chauvinist one style wander but go out and explore. I told them that I can teach you a technic and it'll work for you but you can go to sombody else and he'll teach you the same technic from a different angle and perspective which will make you a better martial artist. Good job and keep it going!
So much of this brought back so many good memories. Well, they're good memories NOW. They hurt like the Dickens back then. My Aikido group was made up of veterans of various traditional martial arts, and old school conditioning and body hardening was deeply ingrained in all of us. We learned break falls on mats, but started practicing on terrazzo tiles and concrete sidewalks, because we were pretty sure there would be no mats in real world situations. We cross-trained with each other's torturous traditional practices, including knuckle pushups, stance training, and makiwara. And on Friday nights, after beating the crap out of each other all evening, we'd go to a popular bar, nurse some drinks and our bruises, talk a whole lotta trash, and get a lotta laughs. I really, really miss those days.
The dream
What become of your group?
Same classes went basically like this
quick pre-warm up stretches.
-Temple Sequence: Basically every Stance for 1 minute each (Horse, Arrow, Bow, Cross, Cat) Mostly. With ending on a low horse stance.
-Than a bunch of stretching, and leg raises. (This also were punch and basic kick drills were done)
-Than our military drills, which what we called the work out portion. This consisted of variation of
Push ups in every flavor: Knuckle, wrist, finger tips, spread, diamonds
Crunches like "row your boats" or having you lay on your back and straighten legs out, while a partner wings your legs towards the ground while keeping your legs straight you needed to catch your lets and bring back to straight up.
-Follow by some more light stance work and tai-chi stuff (Usually snake curls or Chi raising) And bone conditioning. Always done with a partner.
-Than we'd get into either Full contact sparring (Tho you could opt for lighter, lower belt usually picked) Form drills, or weapon drills.
The entire class lasted about 3-4 hours. Tho a lot of people only came for the work out portion (1 hour-ish)
(Weekends we did Lion Dance training)
@@Fenglang1 unfortunately most of us left our home town. I'm back now, but I haven't been able to catch up with any of the guys.
@@GreyfauxxGaming that stance training was one of the things I took away from our cross training. I found it really useful as a strength- and endurance-building tool, but also for building flexibility and balance too.
Reminds me of my kung fu classes in college. Every class our (1 hour) warmup would be brutal, but you could feel your body strengthening. It was awesome.
I still fine it satisfying they still teach old school martial arts. I love it…
Good stuff. As we've talked about before, it's the conditioning g that makes kung fu awesome. The techniques can be found in every other art and aren't unique, but that training methodology makes you a very hard fighter, mentally and physically. It's hard and painful and the rewards come slowly, and it's so worth it.
My school had the casual students, who came and did forms and went home. They basically paid for the school's stay open for those of us who wanted the full deal, with all of the suffering included. It's not fun, and it does hurt, but it's also super satisfying to look back after a couple of years.
Kung fu is actually one of the early early martial arts and was made thousands of years ago, and it’s actually many other martial arts that took stuff from Kung fu, like karate and others
@@ThyBishere correct. Though geography plays a role there as well, of course.
i was doing kung fu in my early teens am now deep in my fourties and still have the flexibility and leg streches ,not the speed and toughness, but it is a great way to train for longevity.
You can tell Sifu Chris is passionate and enjoys teaching this stuff! Amazing
My brother and I did Kung Fu for a year when I was 15/16yrs old. It was pretty much just like this,
But we did the conditioning mostly on other people and we did A LOT of stretches.
I still have strechmarks on my legs from the horse stance. That stuff is intense 😄
Yeah the 3 star arm conditioning drills were always done with a partner in our class. The posts and stuff were usually done at home.
LOL me too. my thighs grew so fast in the first six months I got stretch marks. And yes 15 + years later they're still there. Thanks for sharing that.
@Benja Sa Bukid I did not. It was all very very static and theoretic which was one of the reasons we quit after a year
@Benja Sa Bukid yeah, it's quite sad, but whenever I need some good stretches I still do the things I learned 15+yrs ago, so at least I got this 😅
This master here really seems to know what he is talking about,I enjoy watching it :)
@@amyaccount7935 it’s weird if you didn’t learn any attacks but the kung fu fighting style is mostly based on being strong and fast from training and technique
I had to click this as soon as I saw it pop up. I started training Shaolin Kung Fu just over a month ago and I absolutely love it. I'm 47 and it's hard on me, but the more I do it, the faster my body heals, the better I am. I'm toughening my body, regaining my flexibility, losing weight, and feeling good about myself. Can't wait to see where I am a year from now!
Training (eating bitterness) and eating - Kungfu Panda really got it right. People are always astounded, how fast you become from standing a lot.
Finding the monkey you can famously play in White Cloud Temple in Beijing (there are five). 😁
Or you can play Sekiro :^)
I thought perhaps the monkey in the picture is a zen technique to make you realise you are the monkey as your consciousness (monkey mind) restlessly looks around externally for it.
Chris Heintzman and his Sifu David Chin are my folks. Loved that you went to see him.
I've been practicing kung fu for almost 20 years and the type of training this guy does is pretty similar how we practice in terms of the mentality behind the use for stance. It'd be awesome to train with this guy
Lol right. I feel like there are a lot of tma haters who don't get that you don't fight from horse stance. If you ever hit horse stance its going to be super fast in a transer from cat, or bow and arrow to put some force in your punch. It is just about leg strengthening and hip rotation. Something mma teaches as well. Having done both sides I think its a bummer that tma gets a bad wrap. Its like saying the Right Bros. plane was a real POS compared to a jet liner. No shit dude, but it doesn't mean the principles aren't sound.
@@shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhshhhh thats a pretty good point about the Wright Brothers. It also sucks that some tma practitioners try to use the stances in their fights, then get knocked on their asses
@@shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhshhhh in the end TMA will win out, kind of like how india and china were the center of the world economy 18 of the last 20 centuries. In the scheme of hundreds of years, dropping a century doesn't mean too much.
@@LightGlyphRasengan agreed. There is no quality control either. Some hillbilly who watched roadhouse 25 times starts calling himself master dave, and throwing chi balls at idiots and calls it tma. And it's a bad look for all tma.
Very cool stuff. Also, if you take one technique from Bagua Zhang, one from Tai Chi, one from Hung Gar, one from Northern Shaolin*, and apply them in sparring, boom. You'd be the Avatar.
You mean Northern Shaolin.
Yes actually I do, thank you
God, this brings back memories. I did Wushuan Kung Fu for years. Horse stance with a stick on your thighs. Press-ups with three fingers per hand. It was so much fun and brutal.
And like Sifu Chris here, my sifu was like old leather stretched over rocks too.
At 16 I had a Wing Chun sifu from Hong Kong. He emigrated to the states in the 70’s. By the time I was learning from him I realized he was the real deal. He took no payment, everybody sparred or went through conditioning in his backyard. I have no idea how old he was at the time, but like Sifu Chris he had that old, tough looking skin, bones and muscles. When we sparred his forearms felt hard like rocks and heavy too. Yet he was light on his feet and solid and centered at the same time. We did old type conditioning. Horse stance, despite not being a wing Chun stance, was used to strengthen the legs, punching a bag of rice on the wall one hundred times, 100-200 push ups, pole work, working on the wooden dummy. It was crazy. Too bad I only did 2 years as I had moved to college after graduating.
I was waiting for that Stockton joke and Seth didn't let me down lmao
This is what I've been talking about lol. The long fist styles are the best representation of Chinese martial arts. Finding a school like this is like hitting the lottery. Maybe one day we'll see Sifu Seth.
In my opinion the beauty of Gongfu is how incredibly vast and varied it is. Hakka styles, Northern Muslim styles, Internal, External, joint locking, wrestling, spearhand/finger strikes, Emei styles, Wudang styles, and everything in between!
@@AztecUnshaven Agreed, it's like a buffet of random combat knowledge.
What I love about long fist is that you’re basically conditioning the hell out of your arms and using them as batons.
I'm impressed you did those finger pushups so easy. Do you normally train that? Those things f'in hurt
Alot of people have a misunderstanding of "Kung Fu", as someone that has trained wushu for 6 years when I was younger it's more of a conditioning then actual "fighting stances", all these stances in kungfu is to help you Condition your body, and fully knowing the limits of your body can help you in a fight, when I used to train if I missed a day my master would make me do horse stance for 3 hours with a pole laying at my waist that I can't drop and bcoz of stuff like that my legs got really conditioned to be more sturdy and I could run 5km in under 25 mins, I could slam a nail in with my palm, all these stay with you, as time goes it will weaken but it does help in a fight.
I'd probably enjoy this more than the mma I'm doing right now. It just has much more spirit and more community to it.
I think the spirit and community, as well as the self discipline, are the often overlooked value or traditional martial arts. Many today are taught and trained as a sport, not as a discipline of self improvement/mastery.
Sifu means father, you refer to Senior student as big brother or big sister. Its structured like a family.
@@shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhshhhh As a Chinese-American, I can easily tell you no it doesn't LOL. Sifu means "master" of any craft, so a kung fu master can be called "sifu" and a chef can be called "sifu" as well. It has nothing to do with "father". Nice story tho.
@@lai_strength_training 師父 - master of any skill; teacher. But the other meaning IS father (父).
@@lai_strength_training thanks for the education. That is what I was taught, by my former sifu. But I would have to side with a native speaker of the language. Thanks again for the update.
I like the posters attitude towards trying stuff. At the same time trying stuff is different from being devoted to the stuff that one tries.
Keep up the good stuff 🙏
Great stuff! Old-school conditioning is no joke. I think it's important to remember that forms were also meant for conditioning and attribute building, especially as solo practice. You'd spend some time with your teacher doing stuff in-person, and part of that was learning exercises you could reasonably do off on your lonesome. I think mistaking forms for the actual, literal application is basically a grapevine communication error - and mostly a byproduct of modern practice.
I think in America we always focus too much on muscle strength but in a lot of other countries or fighting styles they focus on bone strength. Conditioning and hardening the bones is just as important, possibly equally important, as maximizing muscle hypertrophy.
The physiological fact is that if you train to make your bones and tendons thicker and stronger muscular strength will increase proportionally. Thicker bones and tendons mean thicker insertion points for the muscles and therefore thicker, denser muscle.
Bone strength training is mostly bro science. In fact, weight lifting is probably better for you bone strength than hitting your shin w/ a stick. The only thing its good for is killing nerves
@@jhvnhjifgvbv8126 Exactly. There's a lot of nonsense in "traditional martial arts." There's a lot of stuff that isn't nonsense too, but there is absolutely zero science that backs up any of the BONE CONDITIONING baloney. Whereas plenty of science shows lifting weights DOES help your tendons and bones, along with proper nutrition.
There's a reason you don't see much of this stuff in historical Western Martial Arts, and yet there's hundreds of years of history of people defeating each other on the battlefield just fine without it.
it's not bone strength. it's about aligning your structure, strengthening your tendons, ligaments, and fascia (something the Chinese have known for over a millenia). the muscles is the final piece that ties everything together but it is not the foundation
@@hahmann what does "bone conditioning" have to do with fighting skills?
The opening clip in the first second is my teacher Shifu Yan Lei at Shaolin Temple UK. Wasn't expecting that, cool to see.
This is awesome! Sifu Chris is an old friend of mine. We trained karate together decades ago at Michigan State before he moved to NC. We still stay in touch. One of the toughest people I know. Love that guy!
This type of conditioning is what I have to thank for my ability to endure pain (whether literally not feeling it or mentally pushing through it). People underestimate this type of training or consider it "insane" for the uninitiated lol.
I've watched a few of your's but this one made me subscribe.
Took 3 years of Judo in Lisbon from '70-'73, then 6 months of karate before moving to America. Joined the USNavy at 17 for broadcast journalism, and the USARMY in1985 at 23 to drive tanks.
Started training with persian meels, bo staff, and sword this year at 59.
I've lost 45 lbs since last September and am in better shape than I ever have been. I train about an hour a day.
I am a retired disabled veteran, and this video made me want to train much harder.
Thank's for your videos and dedication.
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"That was the warm up" man that brought me back to when I first started martial arts😭😭😭❤️
Kung fu is kind of badass. It's like: no matter what precarious position you end up in, you're ready
This is legit old school martial arts training. Similar to what my sifu gets up to do but not exactly. Love this vid
Traditional Kung Fu has amazing physical conditioning. Especially in Shaolin Kung fu. I’d do Kung fu right before kickboxing and get a killer workout. I always tell that to people that don’t see the value.
Agreed
So good
what style of kung fu do you practice ?
@@oldschoolkarate-5o Northern Shaolin
@@aquaticlibrary nice.
This guy should have his own like button on the thumbnail. Never disappoints, natural. Wan love all 🏴🙏🤘
Today I watched Houston Jones' new video, Jesse Enkamp's new video and then yours! I can't think of a better trilogy to start the day! Caught the Nick/Nate Diaz joke!😁 Well Sensei, you are becoming a lethal weapon!💪👊🏻
So, this is what Neo thought when he said "I know Kung Fu." He could hit pavement and be unfazed because he knew Kung Fu.
Man, I did kung fu for like 4-5 years as a kid, looking back at it after not doing it for years, it was tough
I've been smiling through this whole video. But it especially tickled me that you had him search for the monkey in the relief! Deeply grateful for Sifu Chris and Sigong David Chin being teachers in my life. I've laughed until my face and stomach both hurt now. Hop Har Hao! Real GongFu is alive and well, Chin Sifu would be proud!
Oh yes! The TCMAs are no joke when trained properly, practiced and sparred properly. The horse stance, or MaBu (Mah-Boo), is definitely a difficult to hold but it’s for developing leg strength. If Seth checks out the kung Fu style Bajiquan, he will see what I mean
Here’s an example: ruclips.net/video/rYXZIFlVYxE/видео.html
The trick in the US is finding bajiquan. I only know of two schools on the west coast.
@@brianwatson4119 I’m actually part of this group and they teach decent Bajiquan in the East coast: ruclips.net/channel/UC_9wlnLytN4PLwkSEjLx3mw
@@brianwatson4119 share pls! I’ve had an interest in Baji but never knew where to learn
theres that saying about heros and demons trembling when baji is combined with pigua
Keeping your hips tucked and your back straight really does make horse stance alot easier. Leaning forward might seem easier but your muscles will get tired alot faster when everything isn't properly aligned.
Sensei Seth is in incredible fitness. Don't let his mid-section fool you. On the strength force tests he destroyed the reader way more than expected.
I never underestimate. I'm strong as hell, but I've got a bit of a belly. Because as much as I love kung fu, I also love food, and training works upon hell of an appetite.
Welcome to my base world Sensei Seth. Hope you loved it I sure do.
Interesting mix of Traditional and Modern, really insightful!
theres nothing explicitly modern shown in this vid training wise
I FOUND THE MONKEY. It’s the person looking for the monkey 😂
Visually study the horse stance. Now picture in your mind when a sumo does it. He raises one leg up and does a foot stomp.
Picture doing that back and forth. Raise and stomp one side, back to horse stance, then other side.
Now see that as you do each leg raise, you have to lean your torso over to compensate your balance. You raise the right foot and are leaning left. You raise the left foot and are leaning right.
Now go to your heavy bag. Stand next to it at the correct distance for side kicking it when the sumo leg is raised.
Picture in your mind, standing in your horse stance, that as you are leaned and tipped over to one side, and the other leg would come up... this is a full body alignment your joints, your hips, also applied to kicking.
Endless hours of horse stance is also an isometric training for a style of kicking that has maximum human impact resilience. Your joints are in alignment for extreme forces.
You are reminding me of my brutal Kung Fu childhood. I can feel my legs burning.
His description of his life in SF, training and then eating and talking about martial arts...what a way to live. I miss my younger days.
Time to do a 5 minute horse stance
That training is so beneficial for moves that seem to make no sense but when they work they really work and the attacker feels it.
Thanks for shining that light a lot of people don't understand until they get hit, it's too late then.
Broke my heart that you didn't find that elusive monkey.
subbed. The pose you mentioned that doesn't make a lot of sense is basically revolutionary call signals. The one finger up is a secret signal from the old days.
I'm glad to see Kung Fu representation as someone who trains Choy Li Fat. Thanks Sensei Seth
sensei seth!!!! love this video very cool i have a yt idea make a tournament with dif martial arts like taekwondo boxing karate muay thai etc
I Honestly just love your videos and your channel
it gets even better when u realise how karate’s deepest roots are in traditional chinese martial arts like these (as Jesse Enkamp did a whole series on!)
I love this channel. Exploring different martial arts :)
"I didn't even find the monkey..." ~Sensei Seth, 2022
I love these cross training videos ^_^ always looking forward to more! You should try sumo! It’s brutal
Love your videos Seth. Keep showing us these great videos!
Sifu Chris seems like a great trainer ! you can see he is loving what is doing just the way he speaks about kung fu .
and seems to adore hes own sensi that he learnd from ! i loved it . :D
I can see every single vein in that man's arms. If he says do finger pushups, you freakin' do finger pushups.
This is what I like to see! Part of why I quit my last school was this type of conditioning only represented 10-15 minutes out of 3 hour long classes. When I was younger stuff like this (and drills) were AT LEAST half if not MOST of the "class." Theory is one thing, skills and application another but without the proper conditioning they are almost useless like trying to chop down a tree with a blunt axe...
looking strong Sensei Seth💪🏽
No enough power? Mabu
Stances suck? Mabu
It hurts? Mabu
You cry? More Mabu
Welcome to the club
Jeezus Sifu Chris is the real deal! There’s something exceptionally impressive seeing a non Asian, even a non Chinese, who’s not only gone through the traditional training methods from the mainland of China and mountains of Shaolin, but has embraced it, continues to live it, and now passes it on to others👍
thanks for sharing this Sensei Seth !!!!!!
you should have taken a good picture of the mural . look for the monkey with zoom feature on smart phone, then next time you go you can point it out to the sifu :)
Much respect man! Great show!
The Stockton slap reference was funny no one even batted and eye but i cracked up 🤣
What a great channel I just happened upon here! Kung Fu is brutal training for sure. I attended a club once to check it out, and I barely made it through. At the time I was also training Taijiquan and Phillipino martial arts (Pantukan kickboxing, Knife and stick fighting), so I was in pretty good shape. But the hand conditioning really works wonders! I can still punch a concrete wall without pain or injury even though it's been years since I quit doing this.
It is nice to see these kind of trainings and have somebody explain how they are a part of good martial arts, but not the whole deal. When I did Kung-fu, our Laoshu (not sure if I write it correct), told is we should do these exercises daily to work on our physical strength.
Oh man this brings back memories of Kung Fu class. We used to do those pole drills, but with partners, forearm to forearm. My Sifu's forearms literally felt like hitting a steel pipe.
Yeah my school also does all hardening against other students. The downside of that is that you have to adjust down to your partners level. My school has a similar origin story to this one and its a non-profit, so they don't have a dedicated gym or lots of attributes. You have your body and (most days) a park.
Great video! We incorporate a lot of these "hardening" techniques from the Kung Fu taught in Kajukenbo. Which is Sil-lum Kung Fu
oh man, that stired up some memories... awesome vid, when is part 2?
Your mabu stance in the thumbnail is perfect
Glad to see you found someone to actually get you to try and improve your stances. 😜🤭
I give that school a lot of credit. When I started many decades ago, all we did was stretching and conditioning in the beginning. The school got smaller and smaller because students didn't want to pay to get bruises, or make their muscles, tendons, and ligaments stronger. Not many stuck it out past the basic conditioning, stretching, and basics. So, I give this school a lot of credit. Sifu must be great at inspiring and keeping people motivated. In my day, it was sink or swim. Good luck to that school!
Love Sifu Chris! A really great man indeed!
"Crossfit training is so hard man!"
Kung fu: "Hold my tea."
You brought me tears of joy with this one
My teacher used to put me in from of a wall in the MaBu position with my arms extended to the sides and the palms touching the wall and then he said hug the wall. it's basically trying to put your palms together thru the wall(It's impossible of course) it was hard but cool and I did it for years. on the other hand, I get takedown by a double leg in BJJ all the time so... 😅
that mural looks to be a small part of 'along the river during the qingming festival', specifically the one in the national palace museum in taipei. it's a really cool painting to see in person, it's incredibly long
Finding the monkey just sounds like the "Have you seen the clown that hides from gay people" joke.
I mentioned on another of your video but I had trained in a relatively rare style of Kung Fu called Poket in Malaysia in the 1970s, which had similar moves to the Tibetan Hop Gar KungFu. Some of the training you mentioned here look very familiar. In my time, kungfu was transitioning from the very old style training method to a more relaxed style, relatively. For instance, doing the horse stance, the basis of all Kung Fu stances. We had a joss stick placed in front of us, and we had to go into the stance and keep it there until the joss stick burned down. They would use different sizes until you could sit in the horse stance for an hour or more. I was told that a generation before me, it was common to put the joss stick underneath your bum area :) So, if you sank too low, you would get burned by the joss stick!
My sifu then had shins which were like cast iron bars. He had spent years strengthening them by rubbing traditional chinese herbs oil on them and then rolling an old coke bottle over them for a few hours every day. For fun, he used to let us kick or punch his shins as hard as we could. Lets just say that we were the one who were feeling the pain as it was punching or kicking an iron bar.
Yep, that looks painful. Especially the part at the end with the weighted pole rolling down the arms. I gotta get one of those!
start off with escrima sticks, wonderboy thompson has some nice vids on that. Old school muay thai training
Buy a mace. They are relatively inexpensive and can be used for a bunch of other drills as well.
This felt kinda incomplete would have like to see some of the Sifus martial arts. But thank you it was cool to see this sort of thing in context.
I trained Kung like that at my teen years. But My sifu is an old man, trained at kung fu by his own family by tradition. The basic stance for me was bout stay like that and no move for around half hour, then we run for around 30 minutes, then we make a lost of stretching excersises for around half hour more. Only after After all that we started training for around 2 hours, then we meditate. He trained me only, Just like at the karate Kid Movie. My sifu correct always my position hitting my arms , legs or back with a cane. My training days always end at the moment I dont have any more energy to move even a finger and I was laying at the floor with liters of my own sweat, literally. But after 15 minutes of meditation techniques I was always fresh again. It was an amazing time for me , it formed my character.
“That one was developed in Stockton, you said?” Lmao
Been studying southern Hung Gar, for 47yrs. They have insane leg training 😮Chin Sifu, of the Hop Gar! Is the Man !!!
i like shifu chris, he is such a nice guy. Not like super serious, but just a funny guy that is a literal rock
I really love your videos exploring different martial arts. But would like to see you try to reach a goal within those arts beyond just joining a session.
I trained Kung fu back in the 80s and that’s basically how it went. Stance training, forms, three star block. It was fun. But what they didn’t do was spend much time fighting (sparring) or teaching you how to fight. Honestly I think you could train in some Kung fu academies for years and while you may toughen up, get strong and flexible, learn some kicks and punches you will be way behind where you could have been training jiujitsu, judo, wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai, kickboxing, sambo or any other art that has a sparring element that is introduced early and trained frequently. San Da is essentially what Kung fu would be if it was trained effectively and it’s pretty awesome.
Old school kung fu they don’t train novice students to fight because in their eyes you’re not qualified to fight. It’s not just about tradition it’s about expertise. In old school days people would live with or near their teachers or masters because of blood, political ties, necessity, or convenience, so if you have an issue you bring it up with your teacher, family, or clan not picking street brawls with random people. When you’re ready you’ll move on to light sparring in-house and when you’re deemed worthy you will be taught practical techniques and styles and allowed to represent the organization. Normal clans don’t show you anything practical because it’s a matter of security to keep the tools of their trade hidden, all other clans that do originate from a military style, school, or association and teach basic practical forms for general warfare. The clans who make up the military conglomerate all of course have their own schools and styles they keep to themselves.
Where I train we practice 3 hours of training. 1:30 for the tradicional stuf and 1:30 for fighting (sparring) and its very nice.
It's so nice to see southern styles in the US that still hold on to traditional conditioning and strength training methods!
This Sifu is a freaking BEAST
The horse stance is the basis for Chinese Wrestling. It is usable, practical, and versatile. It’s not just for posing, and it shouldn’t be done for hours.. your knees will not thank you. Holding the arms out in front, if you doing it right… you will feel why iiiiimmediately! Love that he has the old school “kettlebells”. The half-barbell I’ve never seen. Only seen / done both arms at the same time.
Nice to see some love for traditional kung fu, which takes a lot of abuse on social media