Sensei, I know u need to get views and you are making videos on all sort of things. But, pls, do not go into the wing chun rabbit hole. When I moved from wing chun to bjj and kyokushin I realised time would have been better spent training bjj and kyokushin instead of wing chun.
I have learnt a bit of wing chun and a bit of Muay Thai. They both work very well together.. Switch from sticky hands to stronger Muay elbow strikes.. grab grab elbow slip grab elbow. Its like butter
@@AGrumpyPandasomething about this comment and the amount of likes it gets feels like there’s becoming a cultural shift of more respect towards aikido. And I can’t help but think that’s in a large part because of Rokas and his collabs with seth and everyone else from USDC. I think he’d be really happy to see this…
It always strikes me how generous actual masters are. People with high levels of skill in a subject get that skill because they love what they do and do it as much as possible, and loving something usually means you want to share that love with others. Be wary of the people who hoard their 'knowledge', they want something from you rather than to make you better.
Sifu Fong is an excellent instructor. There's a lot of bad wing chun out there, and he's encapsulating all of the most important and flexible components of it. Really great to see
Theres a lot of bad everything Good teachers good masters or good whatever are rare, not because the rest of ourselves that want to become masters arent good enough, we just didnt reached that level yet... but we will... eventually... if we keep at it
@@tAtarit0 There is a lot more bad than good martial arts instructors. I had great wing chun sifu in my small hometown, but when I moved to big city for my university studies I hade to spend few months visiting ~20 different dojos (many different ma) until I have found one that hade good instructor and good training regiment (judo) so I had to switch from wing chun to judo just to have good training, but continued doing wooden dummy training.
@@tAtarit0 unfortunately I think there are way more bad martial artist and it has nothing to do with reaching that level. It’s just an easy scam. Anyone can open a dojo of any kind, Taekwondo and Karate are the easiest to find that are just basically daycares that hand out uniforms. The serious athletes, who actually compete and go to the Olympics, are few and far between. They also don’t have a regulating body that says you’re not allowed to open a school, there are no hard rules, to prevent scammers from opening up mcdojos. The only reason you don’t really see it with more combat-based martial arts is because those guys compete. If you get a fake BJJ school they aren’t going to do well in tournaments at all.
@@Wingzero90939I just started Kyudo and I feel very lucky that everything is run through a few certified organisations. Being a lot smaller than stuff like karate it's a bit reassuring that there's only a single dojo in my state and it's tied into the official regulating body in Japan.
Unbelievable...you have managed to do what no wing Chung master has been able to do in modern times...you have managed to make a video that explains and shows that the principles of wing Chung and the skills gained from training it are not useless, that is a martial art with a lot to offer. You have done what no other has been able to. Well done.
Seth did an excellent job with this video, but Sifu Fong also deserves credit because he's probably the most competent and well-rounded wing chun sifu alive. He is also an instructor in muay thai, jiu jitsu, and some other things.
Sifu interacting with Seth it felt like he was teaching him a grapple style of sorts more so than the flashy striking style movies have made it out to be.
Yeah I think we watch so many wing chun guys get lit up we forget there is wisdom in the philosophy of the art and there are little pearls of wisdom in it that any fighter can plumb the depths of.
I've always found Kevin to be really good at explaining things in his videos, and with Sifu Francis as his teacher, it's no wonder! He explains things so concisely and yet makes the concepts really intuitive.
I practice both Karate (primary) and Wing Chun (secondary), and I must say that WC compliments any standup martial art. WC has improved my Karate so much! Glad you are starting to appreciate it.
I do Wing Chun and Kyokoshin. Though I started Wing Chun many years before, it's interesting how both systems are so different yet so familiar at the same time. Idea of being relaxed rather than tense, the Centreline, using the hips and even a number of techniques/strikes are familiar. As you get older you realise it's not about which is better but your ability to learn and appreciate what different disciplines offer.
It really seems like the principles in Wingchun help with feeling comfortable in a clinch situation where you need to grapple and strike with your arms at the same while standing.
The middle part represents low line punches or raised knees. Just like the two upper arms represent highline punches. And yes, repeated mild impacts over a long period of time do make your bones denser and harder. The main part of iron palm training is about coordinating breath with movement and developing smooth relaxed motion in your strikes. Kind of like throwing a baseball is smooth and relaxed. But part of it is also slowly making your bone denser so that it can stand up to the power you’re developing by building your coordination.
Sifu Francis Fong is one of the most remarkable human beings in martial arts, both in terms of his knowledge and in terms of his physical abilities for a man in his 70's.
Wing Chun it's not for everyone. It's way different than others martial arts. You are so Lucky to stay in gym with Sifu Fong. That's a hell of Sifu. Probably the one the best today.
As someone who did Wing Chun bone conditioning in Highschool. It works really well but hurts super bad while doing it. You basically slam your bone by your wrist down on your partners while the other deflects. Using the wooden dummy also helps condition the bones as you will often end up hitting them pretty hard. After a few months you will barely feel it anymore. But I once had a teacher at school ask me if I was being abused at home. Because both of my arms from wrist to 1/3 of the way to my elbow were a solid black with bruises.
Teacher: What hapoem to you, did donrone beat up up?? You.. Yea.. 😢....that Dummy did this to me... Teacher : I report this yo the police. Police: Where is that fella that abuse uou.. You: You show him thr wooden Win Chin Dummy.. Arrest him! 😅
Francis Fong has the best hands I've ever seen on any martial artist ever. He's phenomenal. I really started to love the wooden dummy when I realized that it was as much or more about footwork as it was about hand work. I love it now.
I would love to see Icy Mike learn from Sifu Fong now. Mike is a very practical guy and he always seems skeptical of old style martial arts (and I can't blame him because a lot of times he's right) so I really want to see what he'd pick up from Kevin's master
So cool to see Wing Chun in a light it deserves. Usually it is interpeted and demostrated all wrong. Props so Kevin Lee and his Sifu to tune the art of Wing Chun in a more modern style. And humble Seinei Seth ofcourse, to put himself out of his comfort zone everytime. Love to watch your video´s.
@@SoundBoy808exactly!!! Mine was a Japanese Jujutsu one, and when they said something like that, one would need to prepare themselves for the craziest counter ever
Sifu Fong 🙏(‘s explanation)is a perfect example of who and how a really great Master should be. Indeed He managed to teach and demonstrate quite a lot in quite a short time (in general and about the dummy as well), and He is kind, charismatic, motivational, respectful and motivating respect. Just by watching this video I would run to learn in His School (if He would accept me). ...And yes, we learned what the purpose of that middle...arm(?) is.😂
Lesson 2: Leverage. Yes, speed helps, but good leverage with good control (partly #3 angles), you don't need speed as much. In the end, yes, you are starting to get it - it isn't about the dummy, it is about what the dummy reveals. Good one, Sir.
Hi Sensei Seth, Thanks for the great video. As a wing chun practitioner, I want to give you point number #6 on your whiteboard: Space Awareness and Positioning relative to the opponent. If you look at Sifu Fong and Kevin, you will see that because of their training with the dummy, they are primed to move and adjust their bodies at the most optimum angle for their own bodies relative to the center mass of the dummy. So the idea is as a beginner, once you make contact with the dummy, you need to adjust your hand/body angle relative to the dummy until you feel the perfect position (not leaning backward/fowards, elbows in the right position, legs are within the position to kick and/or displace the opponent's front leg, etc), and rinse and repeat until you internalize and/or calibrate your center/kill zone to unleash your Wing Chun freeflow combos. The best analogy to show this phenomenon is when you watch RUclips videos of street fighting game characters' combo videos. Usually for a given fighting game character (Ryu, Ken, Jin, etc.), you have a long list of normal moves, special moves, throws, etc. -- if you use them randomly, they hit the opponent but you cannot chain combos. However, if you are in the correct position and at the right moment, you can strike the opponent in a way that allows you to chain multiple hits and combos to hit the opponent (i.e., juggling) while you cannot be hit by the opponent once the chain begins. In other words, the dummy teaches the practitioner to learn and realize where he needs to be relative to the opponent in order to optimize and/or execute his or her wing chun strikes and techniques. If you have to bend over (arch your upper body) to reach the dummy arms, then you are too far away from the dummy, and vice versa if you are too close to the dummy. If your shoulder is not square facing the center mass of the dummy, that means you are not facing the dummy appropriately and that means you are turning too much as Sifu Fong said multiple times in the clip. Once you are in the right position and are calibrated with the dummy, the next steps are to literally to move around the dummy and quickly and naturally calibrate your position/orientation to the opponent in real time -- that is the true teaching of the dummy that most people don't realize. Hope that makes sense, and Thanks again.
Sifu Fong is a great instructor from what I have see of his teaching. Its good to see someone like yourself open to Wing Chun because people often dismiss it and the art doesnt improve. I feel like you've got the principles down and those principles dont have to strictly be WC but applied to general striking.
You're doing a great job doing these breakdowns. It takes a lot to assimilate information like this and then recompose it to someone (us) in a clear way that makes sense!
Your final thoughts might have felt awkward to express, but Sensei, they truly hint a a deep philosophical idea. Let me see if I can try: sometimes the best practices in any complex skill (those that integrate body/mind/intent and connect one with a tradition) are designed to teach at many layers. The more widely applicable layers to any practice, the more a relationship with a person/practice/mindset discloses even more reality and catalyzes the practitioner to grow beyond to meet that bigger reality, only to have that practice expand reality AGAIN... that is true Art. Beyond the propositional knowledge, beyond the procedural skill; it is the perspective and participation with Reality.
The middle part also represents an arm; the 3 arms on the wooden dummy represent different arm positions on your opponent. 😂 Love the video; huge fan of everyone involved!
I've always wanted a comprehensive breakdown of the purpose and functionality of this type of training dummy, so thank you for this. The "bone conditioning" looks brutal, but I can see how it would be useful with the amount of blocking and hand trapping that's utilized in Wing Chun. My hands, elbows, and shins are very conditioned. My wrists and forearms? Not so much. Good stuff, Sensei Seth!
The middle part is to simulate bodyshots be it punches or kicks, wing chun doesn't use a lot of kicks but it has front stomp type kicks tl the legs and body.
Great video. Trained WC for 20 years, and really refreshing to see someone talk about these basic concepts and theories, in an approachable way for beginners. It puts the movements great contents. it's not about crazy/flashy movements, but the small details. Thanks Sensei Seth
That was awesome. I started in martial arts with Wing Chun (at 49!) and eventually got a half dummy for my garage. I wasn't learning the "form" on it so much but it was great for just general drilling without a partner. I've moved on to Krav but still have the dummy sitting on the wall. This is making me want to start using it again!
Pick up your dummy training again I recommend getting the book by Greenville martial arts academy I've gotten mine along with my dummy and it's great Amazon 👍
I’m jealous, Sifu Francis Fong is who my instructor learned from. I never felt I was good enough to go to one of his seminars since our focus was Kali.
Sifu Fong is such a wonderful teacher and gem of a person. This video is absolutely great and it’s awesome to see Seth train and gain such great knowledge from such a master, thank you for this!
This was very interesting. He seems to be a great teacher, and when you look at Kevin, he sure is. I hope you can learn more from him, and maybe you will be able to incorporate it into your own style. Perhaps you can make a Viedo with Kevin where the two of you show your take on how you profit from learning traditional martial arts vs then strength of more modern ones.
This is one of the best honest straight forward understanding of Wing Chun! Really great. Just a little humor and excellent focus on what the art is about. Thanks again.
The two top are Arms, the lowest is a leg. The Middle "arm" represents either a Body Shot or a kick, depending on what movement you're doing to counter it.
Wing chun is such a difficult and rich system. It's all about principles (like the center line, structure, forward energy, economy of motion, sensitivity etc.). Training on the wooden dummy teaches you how to use your own mass to influence the balance and center of gravity (i.e. structure) of the opponent. When blocking or pulling, you don't want to just block or pull the arm, but completely disrupt the opponent's balance and change the angle (taking the center line) so he can't easily attack you again (because he first needs to regain his balance and turn back towards you). So you're attacking and defending in such a way that you're taking away your opponents ability to fight back. At least, that's the idea (but most wing chun practitioners don't train in an effective manner unfortunately).
Exactly!!! Same things happen to other Chinese martial arts. What you mentioned is basically part of Taichi and Bagua as well! But can most Taichi and Bagua practitioners do such things? Nah... If they sparred properly and did some proper drills (not like their drills are bad, just not enough for everyone. They only "click" for some people) they would have some of the best fighters ever.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Yes, these systems are very old, and steeped in all sorts of ancient traditions. In the west, Martial Arts have always been intrinsically connected to sports competitions (i.e. the ancient Greek and Roman wrestlers and boxers), so these systems have always been oriented towards athleticism and competing with others, leading to a relatively simplistic way of training (no forms, no complicated drills you have to memorize, just hitting a bag and a lot of sparring). But because the Eastern styles were created for war and self-defense rather than competitive athletes, they have developed a lot of very detailed principles and techniques on how to use or manipulate the body more effectively. Integrating the Eastern and Western methods of training will definitely lead to impressive results!
I don’t think it (has to be) that difficult. It does look that way but even if you can’t flow like Sifu Fong I guarantee you can employ at least some of what he is saying to great effect. Even a tiny bit of wing chun helped me tweak my fighting for the better
TBH I don't know if it's the practitioner or the art, maybe some of both. If people want to learn to fight, I think MMA schools do a better job of teaching it than traditional martial arts. But TMA have a lot more techniques for you to choose from. I think generally it's a good idea to do both.
@@watamutha it also depends when you start as well. For kids, I would say judo. Judo teaches you a lot, including how to break fall. However, it’s definitely a sport. You don’t want to start when you’re 60.
View 11:24 when Sifu Francis Fong gave Sensei Seth a pinky strike at his left wrist area, look at the his reaction and how his left arm hung. I could literally feel the numbing pain coursing through the left arm especially at the shoulder.
wing chun is both really simple and really complicated at the same time. I have trained Muay Thai/Muay Chaiya, jiu jitsu and wing chun and imho a person shouldn't start with wing chun. Well maybe learn the first form, then go onto some other striking art like Muay Thai, Karate, or whatever and then after some level of mastery has been achieved come back to wing chun. At that point they should have the right physical and mental frame to learn the kind of wing chun that is actually really useful. If I take two people who know nothing about martial arts and send one to a typical wing chun school and the other to a typical muay thai school, it is pretty obvious that the muay thai guy will just handle the wing chun guy the vast majority of the time. However, if they both started with Muay Thai, one then added wing chun while the other only stuck with Muay Thai then the Muay Thai only guy will get owned the vast majority of the time. The reason is not that the muay thai techniques are that much better than wing chun but rather that the training is that much better for untrained fighters or people who haven't developed that basic ground level fighting ability. I think a lot of wing chun was set up assuming the person already knew how to fight and wing chun was just putting the polish on it and making it streamlined. People with only wing chun training often suffer from unjustified overconfidence and imho it is from a lack of sparring/stress testing in the training in most wing chun schools
I've been a big fan of both Seth and Kevin for years, but this is one of my favorite videos. I've practiced Japanese budo for 25ish years and I've always been fascinated by Wing Chun, but my experience is very superficial. This video was really good at really explaining those things that you just can't get from "seeing" a practitioner. You have to know those "secret" things that turn this into real techniques.
Many ideas from the wooden dummy are iterations of the main Wing Chun concepts such as centerline control or hit where your weapons lie that you would already learn from the empty hand forms. The wooden dummy introduces new concepts - recovery from bad starts or positions, how to close, power generation.
Again, a well done video. By the "middle part" are you referring to the third arm in the middle of the dummy? You were working with that third or middle arm during much of the video. It is a simulation of a low strike by the dummy from its centerline line to your centerline. During one exercise, you shifted your centerline off-center, removing your centerline as a target, and used the torque generated by that shift and the lowering of your body weight to attack that punch and a 2nd punch thrown higher.
Loved the video! I bought my dummy about 3 years ago. Such a great tool to have and use. I used it last night for a lesson on structure in my class. Sifu Fong demonstrated with such proficiency and your adaptability was great. Love it!!
When we had people learning swordsmanship for the first time, the place where the most skill and the most difficulty in understanding came into play was in the bind and more importantly understanding how pressure is an indicator of many things. Exert too much pressure, your opponent can monopolise. Exert too much pressure in the wrong way at the wrong time, same thing. It's actually comparatively easy to learn how to hit someone or something with a sword. It's not difficult to learn the various cuts and positions. it's all the little unspoken qualities that are the hardest to master and I think the dummy and wing chun itself are indicative of spending all your time mastering the unspoken elements. It's all those elements that come into play when you step away from the shadow learning and start properly drilling against an opponent and then sparring adds another layer of complexity because suddenly you've got all the elements like distance and timing and you have to put those up against your opponent's understanding of those things. It seems the dummy is an effective tool to teach people those things without needing to overwhelm them with too much information too quickly.
No, it doesn't seem that way at all, because actual competitors don't train like that. People who train like that get their asses handed to them by fighters. And people don't "bind" with their limbs like that in a fight. If you wanna learn how to navigate around someone's limbs and grip fight then do wrestling.
Middle part is “another” arm. Since you don’t have moving parts sometimes the middle part is an arm as well, when you engage with it, it’s a low hit (middle hit). I like how you are willing to learn new things from Ving Tsun, in the end it is about being efficient, and you found an excellent sifu to show you the ropes.
The mook jong/wooden man dummy is one of the most traditional Chinese tool in martial arts. I have two in my dojo because we like CMA movements mixed in our Goju Ryu
Magic bone hardening: Micro-fractures heal with a material (I forget the name) that is more brittle/less flexible than live bone. It's silver(ish) in colour. There was a norse-man skeleton dug up from a bog who's skeleton was something silly like 25% healed bone material ...so his bone's were extremely hard.
Can you create a new comparison about different types of kickboxing style like Muay Thai and American kickboxing and sanda and Dutch kickboxing and savate
Trapping can actually be used in grappling, standing and on the ground. My instructor, Larry Hartsell was probably the first guy to come up with entries from the clinch. This was decades ago, Google his books and you'll see what I mean. RIP Larry.
Yeah, especially the one where Seth towards the end was was shifting his weight, and the way his hands were going, shifting from one side to the other… I saw more grappling It reminded me of some set up for Judo throws.
The modification is getting rid of the dummy and signing up for wrestling. Grapplers don't train like that either. Seeing a wing chun master go against a beginner greco roman or bjj guy would be just as comical as them going against boxers.
i ve been practicing on the dummy for over a year we have it in the gym I practice its really usefull the arms and hands do get stronger another great video cheers from brazil
I did both judo and wing chun. One day we had a mock judo vs wing chun sparring session with a friend. Sticky hands gave him a hard time to catch me ^^
I love the way Kevin teaches. If you do it wrong, do it again immediately with a small correction until you get it right, then he follows it with immediate praise allowing you to do it again with more praise. This wires the brain to know exactly what the right way feels like and tells you exactly how you need to fight.
When I first used a dummy I bruised my arms to hell but this was because I was focused on hitting the arms with my arms. Oddly when I changed to focus on using my whole body toward the body of the dummy it hurt a lot less and didn't bruise but I affected the dummy more. Punching the dummy is also good training as if you use good structure and relaxation it doesn't hurt your hand (if you don't it hurts like hell 😂)
I've seen college football strength and conditioning weight rooms with mook jong (wooden dummies). The coaches used them with their linemen specifically for the hand/arm position in-fighting for blocking and passing the blockers.
This is one of if not the best video's on the WCdummy i have ever seen I'd like to comment on the part about hard bones the way it works is when bone bumps into a hard object a vibration occurs which causes the molecules in the bone to vibrate and become closer together which causes the bone to become more dense over time
I fucking love wing chun. It’s bizarre and hilarious watching people 180 on things so easily. Wing chun gets absolutely slagged to death online for years, a couple of RUclipsrs who people respect pop out a few videos and the same dickheads mocking the shit out of it are like hmm wing chun might actually work 🤔 lol maybe if you lot just actually got to training, in whatever you like to train in, instead of yer constant negative criticisms of stuff you’ve never tried, you’d be better martial artists, and more importantly, better human beings 😊
Seth, you should totally get your self a wing chun dummy. That way you can go into martial arts deeper. During combat fighting or high quality sparring with people, it feels alot like your sparing with a dummy, espesialy when you do wing chun. The arms on the dummy are in mid flight, so the training should be spontanious and quick when entering range 3 in combat.
I only got to do wing chin for a little bit but the various forms, practices, conditioning are really eye opening and give you a whole appreciation and understanding of it. One day I will have my own dummy but 😢 wish there were more places to practice
A minute into watching Sifu Fong you can immediately tell he is very passionate about Wing Chun and loves to practice & talk about it daily, when he demonstrated how the dummy worked, he humbly corrected your stance, started showing you the basics & something you can work towards from there. A good, humble & passionate teacher, they are hard to come by, I'd listen closely, it's time well spent and you'll be richer in life for it.
One of the greatest things about the internet is that as more of the bullshido gets cut away, the brighter the good stuff starts shining through! So far my favourite has become the sumo content.
Finally a no BS Wing Chun teacher. I am one of those who hate nearly everything Wing Chun but when the teacher explain it simply, i know he is no BS. It seems kung fu gyms just try to hide their incompetence behind a veil of mystery.
God i loved watching this. I love hearing experts talk about their depth of knowledge, especially when it comes to combat sports. I can listen to a physicist talk, but I won't be able to understand most of it, but when it comes to combat sports I can understand it. God this was cool.
ive trained wing chun for almost a decade at this point, was my first proper martial art and is still a lot of my core. and I have never seen someone look as PRACTICAL and USEFUL with wing chun as sifu francis fong actually blew my mind
What Sifu said was classic knowledge, genuine information he chooses to pass on. The fact that he and other highly skilled teachers pass on the knowledge speak so highly of them. Thank you, to all the teachers.
I love people like this sensei. I have been trained in Mixed Martial Arts Since I was 2 and the thing I saw in this video are things I have been taught before. Love to see real sensei teaching real fighters. You have to have a passion for it. And both you and him do.
After practicing with the Mu-ren Jong, we become the dummy. A great training device for every style of martial arts. Thank you Sensi. Keep practice. Thanks for sharing. Laoshr #60 Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
0:35 the something below is for advanced ameridote techniques. We all know to hit the groin but at brown belt and above you learn what to do if the groin hits back
I am a novice at martial arts and I have always wondered how the wing chung dummy works but seeing this video definitely gives me a idea and I appreciate the heads up on this begaining instuction video lession. Thanks kevin and sifu instructors!
Your bones are sort of aerated like a sponge, frequent stikes in similar areas tend to cause micro fracturing and collapse of those structures, which results in your body growing them back fully dense... It turns out that this is the same thing as brick breaking, body hardening and using rolling pins on your shins (muay thai). It's a good idea. :) The dummy also is a product of the environment in which Wing Chun was created, which is to rapidly train armies in hand to hand combat in case they were disarmed (individuals, not the whole army at once). The idea being that a basic self defence training, with strong passive blocking would make them a lot more effective than no training at all for hand to hand combat. It's pretty similar in concept to some of the strike and run stuff that's taught in moden self defence.
And it's not about "conditioning", it's to teach you how to hit heavy solid/hard objects properly so that it does not hurt you, positioning and overall body mechanics, FOOTWORK and from doing it all the time over and over again reflexes ,instincts ECT
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Sensei, I know u need to get views and you are making videos on all sort of things.
But, pls, do not go into the wing chun rabbit hole.
When I moved from wing chun to bjj and kyokushin I realised time would have been better spent training bjj and kyokushin instead of wing chun.
I have learnt a bit of wing chun and a bit of Muay Thai. They both work very well together..
Switch from sticky hands to stronger Muay elbow strikes.. grab grab elbow slip grab elbow. Its like butter
I think wingchun would be beneficial for you you could use a bit of wingchun in your karate karate is still cool though
I just seen this video on membership its Great!
Watching Sifu Fong tie Kevin up like a pretzel to illustrate a point never gets old.
He always makes it look so simple from his muscle memory too, like "And then I can just put his hand..." and suddenly Kevin finds himself tapping 😄
@@lboe9232 Kevin also knows what's coming, and like an aikidoka can just go with it in a way to avoid hurting himself.
@@AGrumpyPandaand to let him demo
@@AGrumpyPandasomething about this comment and the amount of likes it gets feels like there’s becoming a cultural shift of more respect towards aikido. And I can’t help but think that’s in a large part because of Rokas and his collabs with seth and everyone else from USDC. I think he’d be really happy to see this…
Unless maybe you are Kevin....?
It always strikes me how generous actual masters are. People with high levels of skill in a subject get that skill because they love what they do and do it as much as possible, and loving something usually means you want to share that love with others. Be wary of the people who hoard their 'knowledge', they want something from you rather than to make you better.
Always be wary of the Seths of the world and their knowledge paywalls.
it would be funny if seth pins this
This is amazing advice! Thank you, sensei! :)
@@DragonTigerBoss Welcome to capitalism! :(
To be a true master, you must continuously learn otherwise there's no room for improvement 😊
Sifu Fong is an excellent instructor. There's a lot of bad wing chun out there, and he's encapsulating all of the most important and flexible components of it. Really great to see
Theres a lot of bad everything
Good teachers good masters or good whatever are rare, not because the rest of ourselves that want to become masters arent good enough, we just didnt reached that level yet... but we will... eventually... if we keep at it
underrated comment. there is a lot of shit martial art instructors out there.
@@tAtarit0 There is a lot more bad than good martial arts instructors. I had great wing chun sifu in my small hometown, but when I moved to big city for my university studies I hade to spend few months visiting ~20 different dojos (many different ma) until I have found one that hade good instructor and good training regiment (judo) so I had to switch from wing chun to judo just to have good training, but continued doing wooden dummy training.
@@tAtarit0 unfortunately I think there are way more bad martial artist and it has nothing to do with reaching that level. It’s just an easy scam.
Anyone can open a dojo of any kind, Taekwondo and Karate are the easiest to find that are just basically daycares that hand out uniforms.
The serious athletes, who actually compete and go to the Olympics, are few and far between.
They also don’t have a regulating body that says you’re not allowed to open a school, there are no hard rules, to prevent scammers from opening up mcdojos.
The only reason you don’t really see it with more combat-based martial arts is because those guys compete. If you get a fake BJJ school they aren’t going to do well in tournaments at all.
@@Wingzero90939I just started Kyudo and I feel very lucky that everything is run through a few certified organisations. Being a lot smaller than stuff like karate it's a bit reassuring that there's only a single dojo in my state and it's tied into the official regulating body in Japan.
The amount of knowledge from Sifu is unbelievable!!
Unbelievable...you have managed to do what no wing Chung master has been able to do in modern times...you have managed to make a video that explains and shows that the principles of wing Chung and the skills gained from training it are not useless, that is a martial art with a lot to offer. You have done what no other has been able to. Well done.
You’re quite right. It’s amazing how simple it was.
Seth did an excellent job with this video, but Sifu Fong also deserves credit because he's probably the most competent and well-rounded wing chun sifu alive. He is also an instructor in muay thai, jiu jitsu, and some other things.
Sifu interacting with Seth it felt like he was teaching him a grapple style of sorts more so than the flashy striking style movies have made it out to be.
@@dhaxiskhadhammerwell that’s because Wing Chun is a striking grappling style
Yeah I think we watch so many wing chun guys get lit up we forget there is wisdom in the philosophy of the art and there are little pearls of wisdom in it that any fighter can plumb the depths of.
I've always found Kevin to be really good at explaining things in his videos, and with Sifu Francis as his teacher, it's no wonder! He explains things so concisely and yet makes the concepts really intuitive.
I agree. He explains a lot but you surprisingly kind of remember it
I practice both Karate (primary) and Wing Chun (secondary), and I must say that WC compliments any standup martial art. WC has improved my Karate so much! Glad you are starting to appreciate it.
It does! I used Wing Chun applied to karate to really improve my sparring.
It’s an important facet to striking for sure 😊😊
Yes I agree, I've seen some people apply it to grappling arts as well. Techniques and concepts. Pretty cool stuff.
Absolutely agree. I started chow gar some years ago and my karate shot off into its own beautiful place
I do Wing Chun and Kyokoshin. Though I started Wing Chun many years before, it's interesting how both systems are so different yet so familiar at the same time. Idea of being relaxed rather than tense, the Centreline, using the hips and even a number of techniques/strikes are familiar. As you get older you realise it's not about which is better but your ability to learn and appreciate what different disciplines offer.
It really seems like the principles in Wingchun help with feeling comfortable in a clinch situation where you need to grapple and strike with your arms at the same while standing.
The middle part represents low line punches or raised knees. Just like the two upper arms represent highline punches. And yes, repeated mild impacts over a long period of time do make your bones denser and harder. The main part of iron palm training is about coordinating breath with movement and developing smooth relaxed motion in your strikes. Kind of like throwing a baseball is smooth and relaxed. But part of it is also slowly making your bone denser so that it can stand up to the power you’re developing by building your coordination.
So THAT's what the middle part is, I always wondered that. Thanks for explaining! 👍💪
Glad to be of service lol 😄@@blockmasterscott
Hehe. Bone.
correct. Emphasis on MILD impact. people smacking the dummy with their arm /wrist bones are asking for permanent injuries. smacker beware.
Is there research supporting that?
Or is that something people just say because they feel that way?
The fact he regularly closes his eyes when doing the drills with Kevin is crazy 😂
Sifu Francis Fong is one of the most remarkable human beings in martial arts, both in terms of his knowledge and in terms of his physical abilities for a man in his 70's.
Wing Chun it's not for everyone. It's way different than others martial arts. You are so Lucky to stay in gym with Sifu Fong. That's a hell of Sifu. Probably the one the best today.
As someone who did Wing Chun bone conditioning in Highschool. It works really well but hurts super bad while doing it. You basically slam your bone by your wrist down on your partners while the other deflects. Using the wooden dummy also helps condition the bones as you will often end up hitting them pretty hard. After a few months you will barely feel it anymore. But I once had a teacher at school ask me if I was being abused at home. Because both of my arms from wrist to 1/3 of the way to my elbow were a solid black with bruises.
I know that feeling, people would give me the looks on the arms for the exact same reason. I had to explain it over and over…
Teacher: What hapoem to you, did donrone beat up up??
You.. Yea.. 😢....that Dummy did this to me...
Teacher : I report this yo the police.
Police: Where is that fella that abuse uou..
You: You show him thr wooden Win Chin Dummy.. Arrest him! 😅
Francis Fong has the best hands I've ever seen on any martial artist ever. He's phenomenal.
I really started to love the wooden dummy when I realized that it was as much or more about footwork as it was about hand work. I love it now.
I was shocked to learn Sifu Francis Fong is 76 years old. I thought he was maybe 55 or 60 at the most.
whatttttt
That would make sense he came the us in 80's
All the wing chun masters live to a very old age and are still so strong fast and healthy clearly its more than a marshal art it's a way of life
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Damn he's 76! Wow, he's in great shape for a man that age, respect.
I would love to see Icy Mike learn from Sifu Fong now. Mike is a very practical guy and he always seems skeptical of old style martial arts (and I can't blame him because a lot of times he's right) so I really want to see what he'd pick up from Kevin's master
Mike is the perfect combination of skeptical and open-minded.
@PaMuShin You want to see a small man in his 70's fight a room full of young trained fighters?
Jokes aside he does move remarkably well for his age. There's a lot of videos of him beating up Kevin Lee on Lee's channel.
So cool to see Wing Chun in a light it deserves. Usually it is interpeted and demostrated all wrong. Props so Kevin Lee and his Sifu to tune the art of Wing Chun in a more modern style. And humble Seinei Seth ofcourse, to put himself out of his comfort zone everytime. Love to watch your video´s.
Kevin looks slightly terrified at times and I love it 🤣
Just the way it should be. Whenever my l master said "you punch." it was always a worrying moment, haha.. 😅
@@SoundBoy808exactly!!!
Mine was a Japanese Jujutsu one, and when they said something like that, one would need to prepare themselves for the craziest counter ever
😂😂😂 one of the most real master- student moments 🥲🥲
Sifu Fong 🙏(‘s explanation)is a perfect example of who and how a really great Master should be. Indeed He managed to teach and demonstrate quite a lot in quite a short time (in general and about the dummy as well), and He is kind, charismatic, motivational, respectful and motivating respect. Just by watching this video I would run to learn in His School (if He would accept me). ...And yes, we learned what the purpose of that middle...arm(?) is.😂
whats with the capital H. seriously.
Lesson 2: Leverage. Yes, speed helps, but good leverage with good control (partly #3 angles), you don't need speed as much.
In the end, yes, you are starting to get it - it isn't about the dummy, it is about what the dummy reveals. Good one, Sir.
Hi Sensei Seth,
Thanks for the great video.
As a wing chun practitioner, I want to give you point number #6 on your whiteboard: Space Awareness and Positioning relative to the opponent.
If you look at Sifu Fong and Kevin, you will see that because of their training with the dummy, they are primed to move and adjust their bodies at the most optimum angle for their own bodies relative to the center mass of the dummy. So the idea is as a beginner, once you make contact with the dummy, you need to adjust your hand/body angle relative to the dummy until you feel the perfect position (not leaning backward/fowards, elbows in the right position, legs are within the position to kick and/or displace the opponent's front leg, etc), and rinse and repeat until you internalize and/or calibrate your center/kill zone to unleash your Wing Chun freeflow combos.
The best analogy to show this phenomenon is when you watch RUclips videos of street fighting game characters' combo videos. Usually for a given fighting game character (Ryu, Ken, Jin, etc.), you have a long list of normal moves, special moves, throws, etc. -- if you use them randomly, they hit the opponent but you cannot chain combos. However, if you are in the correct position and at the right moment, you can strike the opponent in a way that allows you to chain multiple hits and combos to hit the opponent (i.e., juggling) while you cannot be hit by the opponent once the chain begins.
In other words, the dummy teaches the practitioner to learn and realize where he needs to be relative to the opponent in order to optimize and/or execute his or her wing chun strikes and techniques. If you have to bend over (arch your upper body) to reach the dummy arms, then you are too far away from the dummy, and vice versa if you are too close to the dummy. If your shoulder is not square facing the center mass of the dummy, that means you are not facing the dummy appropriately and that means you are turning too much as Sifu Fong said multiple times in the clip. Once you are in the right position and are calibrated with the dummy, the next steps are to literally to move around the dummy and quickly and naturally calibrate your position/orientation to the opponent in real time -- that is the true teaching of the dummy that most people don't realize.
Hope that makes sense, and Thanks again.
Dude! Seeing you learn from Kev's teacher shows why Kev is so amazing at martial arts! Great video!
Sifu Fong is a great instructor from what I have see of his teaching. Its good to see someone like yourself open to Wing Chun because people often dismiss it and the art doesnt improve. I feel like you've got the principles down and those principles dont have to strictly be WC but applied to general striking.
You got to train with master Fong himself. What an honor!
You're doing a great job doing these breakdowns. It takes a lot to assimilate information like this and then recompose it to someone (us) in a clear way that makes sense!
Your final thoughts might have felt awkward to express, but Sensei, they truly hint a a deep philosophical idea. Let me see if I can try: sometimes the best practices in any complex skill (those that integrate body/mind/intent and connect one with a tradition) are designed to teach at many layers. The more widely applicable layers to any practice, the more a relationship with a person/practice/mindset discloses even more reality and catalyzes the practitioner to grow beyond to meet that bigger reality, only to have that practice expand reality AGAIN... that is true Art. Beyond the propositional knowledge, beyond the procedural skill; it is the perspective and participation with Reality.
Damn, that's a very succinct way to express it!
there are so many wrestling applications running through my head while i watch this.....i love your channel Seth. Keep fighting the good fight.
Bro he’s so cool😭
105 likes and no comments gotta fix that
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So you have a waterfall of tears running down your face for some inexplicable? Fucking stupid, weird use of that emoji
@@thekillernoobgames8095You fixed nothing.
@astreusastresus shut up
The middle part also represents an arm; the 3 arms on the wooden dummy represent different arm positions on your opponent. 😂
Love the video; huge fan of everyone involved!
What an honor to train with Sifu. So very knowledgeable!
I've always wanted a comprehensive breakdown of the purpose and functionality of this type of training dummy, so thank you for this. The "bone conditioning" looks brutal, but I can see how it would be useful with the amount of blocking and hand trapping that's utilized in Wing Chun. My hands, elbows, and shins are very conditioned. My wrists and forearms? Not so much. Good stuff, Sensei Seth!
Type in sifu randy willians crca wooden dummy or sifu augistine fong
The middle part is to simulate bodyshots be it punches or kicks, wing chun doesn't use a lot of kicks but it has front stomp type kicks tl the legs and body.
Great video. Trained WC for 20 years, and really refreshing to see someone talk about these basic concepts and theories, in an approachable way for beginners. It puts the movements great contents. it's not about crazy/flashy movements, but the small details. Thanks Sensei Seth
That was awesome. I started in martial arts with Wing Chun (at 49!) and eventually got a half dummy for my garage. I wasn't learning the "form" on it so much but it was great for just general drilling without a partner. I've moved on to Krav but still have the dummy sitting on the wall. This is making me want to start using it again!
Pick up your dummy training again I recommend getting the book by Greenville martial arts academy I've gotten mine along with my dummy and it's great Amazon 👍
With the precision of his movements, you can really see what thousands of hours of practice look like
I loved my wing tsu experience when also learning Tai chi Quan I'm glad he taught you about so much especially the centerline concept
it’s like pummeling, hand fighting, and dirty boxing!
Sifu Francis Fong is the best!!
It's incredibly awesome to see him on here representing the traditional arts.
Thank you for sharing this 🙏
I’m jealous, Sifu Francis Fong is who my instructor learned from. I never felt I was good enough to go to one of his seminars since our focus was Kali.
Sifu Fong is such a wonderful teacher and gem of a person. This video is absolutely great and it’s awesome to see Seth train and gain such great knowledge from such a master, thank you for this!
I sword fight in HEMA, love how similar all martial arts are. Thanks for sharing.
This was very interesting. He seems to be a great teacher, and when you look at Kevin, he sure is. I hope you can learn more from him, and maybe you will be able to incorporate it into your own style. Perhaps you can make a Viedo with Kevin where the two of you show your take on how you profit from learning traditional martial arts vs then strength of more modern ones.
This is one of the best honest straight forward understanding of Wing Chun! Really great. Just a little humor and excellent focus on what the art is about. Thanks again.
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This was good. More Wing Chun videos please.
I like the sounds the wing chun dummy makes. Its kinda therapeutic.
The two top are Arms, the lowest is a leg. The Middle "arm" represents either a Body Shot or a kick, depending on what movement you're doing to counter it.
True that's what I am talking about.
Love to see a master ‘breath out’ their passion for their art… truly a very accomplished expert…
Wing chun is such a difficult and rich system. It's all about principles (like the center line, structure, forward energy, economy of motion, sensitivity etc.). Training on the wooden dummy teaches you how to use your own mass to influence the balance and center of gravity (i.e. structure) of the opponent. When blocking or pulling, you don't want to just block or pull the arm, but completely disrupt the opponent's balance and change the angle (taking the center line) so he can't easily attack you again (because he first needs to regain his balance and turn back towards you). So you're attacking and defending in such a way that you're taking away your opponents ability to fight back. At least, that's the idea (but most wing chun practitioners don't train in an effective manner unfortunately).
Exactly!!! Same things happen to other Chinese martial arts. What you mentioned is basically part of Taichi and Bagua as well! But can most Taichi and Bagua practitioners do such things? Nah...
If they sparred properly and did some proper drills (not like their drills are bad, just not enough for everyone. They only "click" for some people) they would have some of the best fighters ever.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Yes, these systems are very old, and steeped in all sorts of ancient traditions. In the west, Martial Arts have always been intrinsically connected to sports competitions (i.e. the ancient Greek and Roman wrestlers and boxers), so these systems have always been oriented towards athleticism and competing with others, leading to a relatively simplistic way of training (no forms, no complicated drills you have to memorize, just hitting a bag and a lot of sparring). But because the Eastern styles were created for war and self-defense rather than competitive athletes, they have developed a lot of very detailed principles and techniques on how to use or manipulate the body more effectively. Integrating the Eastern and Western methods of training will definitely lead to impressive results!
I don’t think it (has to be) that difficult. It does look that way but even if you can’t flow like Sifu Fong I guarantee you can employ at least some of what he is saying to great effect.
Even a tiny bit of wing chun helped me tweak my fighting for the better
TBH I don't know if it's the practitioner or the art, maybe some of both. If people want to learn to fight, I think MMA schools do a better job of teaching it than traditional martial arts. But TMA have a lot more techniques for you to choose from. I think generally it's a good idea to do both.
@@watamutha it also depends when you start as well. For kids, I would say judo. Judo teaches you a lot, including how to break fall.
However, it’s definitely a sport. You don’t want to start when you’re 60.
View 11:24 when Sifu Francis Fong gave Sensei Seth a pinky strike at his left wrist area, look at the his reaction and how his left arm hung. I could literally feel the numbing pain coursing through the left arm especially at the shoulder.
wing chun is both really simple and really complicated at the same time. I have trained Muay Thai/Muay Chaiya, jiu jitsu and wing chun and imho a person shouldn't start with wing chun. Well maybe learn the first form, then go onto some other striking art like Muay Thai, Karate, or whatever and then after some level of mastery has been achieved come back to wing chun. At that point they should have the right physical and mental frame to learn the kind of wing chun that is actually really useful. If I take two people who know nothing about martial arts and send one to a typical wing chun school and the other to a typical muay thai school, it is pretty obvious that the muay thai guy will just handle the wing chun guy the vast majority of the time. However, if they both started with Muay Thai, one then added wing chun while the other only stuck with Muay Thai then the Muay Thai only guy will get owned the vast majority of the time. The reason is not that the muay thai techniques are that much better than wing chun but rather that the training is that much better for untrained fighters or people who haven't developed that basic ground level fighting ability. I think a lot of wing chun was set up assuming the person already knew how to fight and wing chun was just putting the polish on it and making it streamlined. People with only wing chun training often suffer from unjustified overconfidence and imho it is from a lack of sparring/stress testing in the training in most wing chun schools
I've been a big fan of both Seth and Kevin for years, but this is one of my favorite videos. I've practiced Japanese budo for 25ish years and I've always been fascinated by Wing Chun, but my experience is very superficial. This video was really good at really explaining those things that you just can't get from "seeing" a practitioner. You have to know those "secret" things that turn this into real techniques.
I've been to several Sifu Fong seminars. He brings a lot of knowledge and humor to everything.
BTW: The wooden dummy builds killer forearms, too.
Many ideas from the wooden dummy are iterations of the main Wing Chun concepts such as centerline control or hit where your weapons lie that you would already learn from the empty hand forms.
The wooden dummy introduces new concepts - recovery from bad starts or positions, how to close, power generation.
Again, a well done video. By the "middle part" are you referring to the third arm in the middle of the dummy? You were working with that third or middle arm during much of the video. It is a simulation of a low strike by the dummy from its centerline line to your centerline. During one exercise, you shifted your centerline off-center, removing your centerline as a target, and used the torque generated by that shift and the lowering of your body weight to attack that punch and a 2nd punch thrown higher.
Loved the video! I bought my dummy about 3 years ago. Such a great tool to have and use. I used it last night for a lesson on structure in my class.
Sifu Fong demonstrated with such proficiency and your adaptability was great. Love it!!
I have one and it's been absolutely a great tool
Francis Fong was a great choice to demonstrate and teach this
When we had people learning swordsmanship for the first time, the place where the most skill and the most difficulty in understanding came into play was in the bind and more importantly understanding how pressure is an indicator of many things. Exert too much pressure, your opponent can monopolise. Exert too much pressure in the wrong way at the wrong time, same thing. It's actually comparatively easy to learn how to hit someone or something with a sword. It's not difficult to learn the various cuts and positions. it's all the little unspoken qualities that are the hardest to master and I think the dummy and wing chun itself are indicative of spending all your time mastering the unspoken elements. It's all those elements that come into play when you step away from the shadow learning and start properly drilling against an opponent and then sparring adds another layer of complexity because suddenly you've got all the elements like distance and timing and you have to put those up against your opponent's understanding of those things. It seems the dummy is an effective tool to teach people those things without needing to overwhelm them with too much information too quickly.
No, it doesn't seem that way at all, because actual competitors don't train like that.
People who train like that get their asses handed to them by fighters.
And people don't "bind" with their limbs like that in a fight.
If you wanna learn how to navigate around someone's limbs and grip fight then do wrestling.
Middle part is “another” arm. Since you don’t have moving parts sometimes the middle part is an arm as well, when you engage with it, it’s a low hit (middle hit). I like how you are willing to learn new things from Ving Tsun, in the end it is about being efficient, and you found an excellent sifu to show you the ropes.
The mook jong/wooden man dummy is one of the most traditional Chinese tool in martial arts. I have two in my dojo because we like CMA movements mixed in our Goju Ryu
I did GoJu as well for a few years and I definitely see wing chun IN it. Even in Sanchin, you see the similar structure and hand movements.
Let the mouse trap themself!
Pretty slick huh
Magic bone hardening: Micro-fractures heal with a material (I forget the name) that is more brittle/less flexible than live bone.
It's silver(ish) in colour. There was a norse-man skeleton dug up from a bog who's skeleton was something silly like 25% healed bone material ...so his bone's were extremely hard.
Can you create a new comparison about different types of kickboxing style like Muay Thai and American kickboxing and sanda and Dutch kickboxing and savate
I love watching Kevin listen to his Sifu, such respect and admiration
Here’s the thing, i think it translates to grappling more than striking. Of course with modifications
Trapping can actually be used in grappling, standing and on the ground. My instructor, Larry Hartsell was probably the first guy to come up with entries from the clinch. This was decades ago, Google his books and you'll see what I mean. RIP Larry.
@@renehinojosa1962 ... made up him self ? ...or ,...1000 yrs ago...if not 3000yrs , linage loss of info
Yeah, especially the one where Seth towards the end was was shifting his weight, and the way his hands were going, shifting from one side to the other… I saw more grappling It reminded me of some set up for Judo throws.
The modification is getting rid of the dummy and signing up for wrestling.
Grapplers don't train like that either.
Seeing a wing chun master go against a beginner greco roman or bjj guy would be just as comical as them going against boxers.
i ve been practicing on the dummy for over a year
we have it in the gym I practice
its really usefull
the arms and hands do get stronger
another great video
cheers from brazil
wing chun movement is useful training for judo players, in my opinion.
I did both judo and wing chun. One day we had a mock judo vs wing chun sparring session with a friend.
Sticky hands gave him a hard time to catch me ^^
I love the way Kevin teaches. If you do it wrong, do it again immediately with a small correction until you get it right, then he follows it with immediate praise allowing you to do it again with more praise. This wires the brain to know exactly what the right way feels like and tells you exactly how you need to fight.
When I first used a dummy I bruised my arms to hell but this was because I was focused on hitting the arms with my arms. Oddly when I changed to focus on using my whole body toward the body of the dummy it hurt a lot less and didn't bruise but I affected the dummy more. Punching the dummy is also good training as if you use good structure and relaxation it doesn't hurt your hand (if you don't it hurts like hell 😂)
I've seen college football strength and conditioning weight rooms with mook jong (wooden dummies). The coaches used them with their linemen specifically for the hand/arm position in-fighting for blocking and passing the blockers.
I never realized just how truly clever the design of the Wing Chun wooden dummy really is! WOW!
This is one of if not the best video's on the WCdummy i have ever seen I'd like to comment on the part about hard bones the way it works is when bone bumps into a hard object a vibration occurs which causes the molecules in the bone to vibrate and become closer together which causes the bone to become more dense over time
Ok buddy
OK well then why don't you shrink when this happens, if the molecules are scrunched up the bones should be shrinking yea?
Sifu blew his mind🤣
Great education is the Dummy :) Glad you enjoyed your time there :) Cool video and respect to Sifu Fong
You are probably starting to see why Wing Chun is so popular with martial arts geeks 😁
The grin on this instructor's face is priceless! A great instructor is always a delight to watch.
I fucking love wing chun. It’s bizarre and hilarious watching people 180 on things so easily. Wing chun gets absolutely slagged to death online for years, a couple of RUclipsrs who people respect pop out a few videos and the same dickheads mocking the shit out of it are like hmm wing chun might actually work 🤔 lol maybe if you lot just actually got to training, in whatever you like to train in, instead of yer constant negative criticisms of stuff you’ve never tried, you’d be better martial artists, and more importantly, better human beings 😊
1000 percent truth. Ignorance on the internet is rampant.
Seth, you should totally get your self a wing chun dummy. That way you can go into martial arts deeper. During combat fighting or high quality sparring with people, it feels alot like your sparing with a dummy, espesialy when you do wing chun. The arms on the dummy are in mid flight, so the training should be spontanious and quick when entering range 3 in combat.
I only got to do wing chin for a little bit but the various forms, practices, conditioning are really eye opening and give you a whole appreciation and understanding of it. One day I will have my own dummy but 😢 wish there were more places to practice
Alright, you got me convinced, I'm going to join your membership
A minute into watching Sifu Fong you can immediately tell he is very passionate about Wing Chun and loves to practice & talk about it daily, when he demonstrated how the dummy worked, he humbly corrected your stance, started showing you the basics & something you can work towards from there.
A good, humble & passionate teacher, they are hard to come by, I'd listen closely, it's time well spent and you'll be richer in life for it.
One of the greatest things about the internet is that as more of the bullshido gets cut away, the brighter the good stuff starts shining through! So far my favourite has become the sumo content.
Finally a no BS Wing Chun teacher. I am one of those who hate nearly everything Wing Chun but when the teacher explain it simply, i know he is no BS. It seems kung fu gyms just try to hide their incompetence behind a veil of mystery.
God i loved watching this.
I love hearing experts talk about their depth of knowledge, especially when it comes to combat sports. I can listen to a physicist talk, but I won't be able to understand most of it, but when it comes to combat sports I can understand it.
God this was cool.
ive trained wing chun for almost a decade at this point, was my first proper martial art and is still a lot of my core. and I have never seen someone look as PRACTICAL and USEFUL with wing chun as sifu francis fong actually blew my mind
What Sifu said was classic knowledge, genuine information he chooses to pass on. The fact that he and other highly skilled teachers pass on the knowledge speak so highly of them. Thank you, to all the teachers.
12:10 - Yes, completely. It's like the dummy is the doorway into the knowledge beyond it, you just need to learn to unlock it.
The heart of Wing Chun is similar to Western Boxing. Simplicity and repetition are the way to greatness.
I love people like this sensei. I have been trained in Mixed Martial Arts Since I was 2 and the thing I saw in this video are things I have been taught before. Love to see real sensei teaching real fighters. You have to have a passion for it. And both you and him do.
After practicing with the Mu-ren Jong, we become the dummy.
A great training device for every style of martial arts. Thank you Sensi.
Keep practice. Thanks for sharing.
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Very well done! Thanks! I'm ready for Part 2.
Wow, what a great instructor! Respect.
Excellent Gong Fu! Thank you for sharing this exchange with us.
0:35 the something below is for advanced ameridote techniques. We all know to hit the groin but at brown belt and above you learn what to do if the groin hits back
I studied Wing Chun for three years, seeing this vid puts a smile on my face, well done Sensei Seth!
Sifu Francis seems like a great teacher. Dude really seems to enjoy the instruction, which is a huge part of having a great instructor.
I am a novice at martial arts and I have always wondered how the wing chung dummy works but seeing this video definitely gives me a idea and I appreciate the heads up on this begaining instuction video lession. Thanks kevin and sifu instructors!
That low chop/block sifu did around 9:30. Yeah. I felt that man.
Your bones are sort of aerated like a sponge, frequent stikes in similar areas tend to cause micro fracturing and collapse of those structures, which results in your body growing them back fully dense... It turns out that this is the same thing as brick breaking, body hardening and using rolling pins on your shins (muay thai). It's a good idea. :)
The dummy also is a product of the environment in which Wing Chun was created, which is to rapidly train armies in hand to hand combat in case they were disarmed (individuals, not the whole army at once). The idea being that a basic self defence training, with strong passive blocking would make them a lot more effective than no training at all for hand to hand combat. It's pretty similar in concept to some of the strike and run stuff that's taught in moden self defence.
And it's not about "conditioning", it's to teach you how to hit heavy solid/hard objects properly so that it does not hurt you, positioning and overall body mechanics, FOOTWORK and from doing it all the time over and over again reflexes ,instincts ECT