The Mesas just sit so well in a mix. Lately I have been on a Marshall kick. I recently got a 1982 JCM800 4x12 with original Rola 65s and a 1960a loaded with Marshall Vintage and DV77s. The 1982 is the angriest cab I have ever heard, and the combo I have in the 1960a is a match made in heaven.
I’m an old dude so the Marshall with V30 is pretty much the tone that’s imprinted in my brain. Gonna give some love to the Bogner cab though. They do some killer amps and cabs.
What a great shootout! Plus hearing you noodle around and reacting on the spot is gold. I'm a sucker for Marshall gear (not for down-tuned music) but the difference with the Vintage G12s in the last clip is crazy. Really considering having one of my Marshall cabs loaded with these. Thanks Mendel 🙂
The Bogner kinda had that "bell tone" that is so coveted in bass amps. Interesting. This was a great comparison, thanks!. What I woils have found invaluable is to be able to see your eq settings. Frequency response is the name of the game, and a great equalizer can make almost any cab sound good. So each cab has its own starting point and it's good to see where it stands in the spectrum. It would also be great if you could compare your favorite eq settings with a flat setting.
Thanks for the reply yes it seems to be missing some of the information to fully sit in a mix. Tossing up between the Mesa traditional and the orange. Thanks again😊@@Itsallawesome
I'm glad I found this video. I own the Mesa Traditional. I bought it over the OS because it was the only one in stock. I love the cab but have always wondered how it would compare to the OS.
Great video, awesome playing and sound quality. Some constructive feedback would be to pay attention to edits and getting rid of unnecessary banter. Otherwise I really enjoyed the playthroughs. Keep up the good work.
The mesa is my favourite, Bogner is also good. I really don't like the 1960A cause of the high freq. as you said. 1960 V30 is alright. I think the mesa is the most balanced and has nice mids
Great video and surprisingly I prefer the mesa Standard here but, though the Marshall sound brittle/harsh you'd be able to eq to taste but for the sake of a read across test that would be confusing. Reckon they'd all work well adjusting the amp.
That Orange seals the deal for me it’s so tight and the fullness from an Orange you can’t beat… Can’t wait to get an PPC412 angled for my Marshall DSL 100HR
I think de Marshall 1960AV has the speakers Marshall G12 Vintage By Celestion , not V30 , unless has been change by user by V30 speakers, because from factory the Marshall 1960AV has the G12 Vintage ( and 1960A has the G12T-75 )
Great comparison guys, I agree, the Traditional is an awesome cab, I like my Rectifier with my Traditional 4X12 but I think it has too much mids for my 6505+.
@@JaimeNoro I think the Mesa Oversized sounds fantastic with the 6505/+, the Uberkab, even the Traditional if you have the chance to play loud. I'm selling mine in favour of the OS 'cause I sold my Dual for a Diezel Vh4.
@@JaimeNoro I havent played the Oversized can but I have the Mesa Traditional and I use it with my 6505, KSR, and EVH 5153 100w Stealth. I think it sounds awesome. There is nothing I don't like about it and you can easily EQ some mids out if you need to.b
Trying to decide between the mesa traditional and the bogner. I run a engl fireball 100 and a direwolf in front with a 10band eq. Great comparison video!
TBH the oversized is better for solos, or if you're blending chainsaw tones with a normal amp tone, run the normal amp through the Mesa Trad and your chainsaw sound through the Mesa OS. Also, for people parallel processing bass into 3 sections, and reamping their bass through a guitar amp for one of those, use the OS for that.
What year was the Mesa Traditional produced? I'm finally looking to get myself an old 4x12 Mesa and I'm not sure if I should get a straight or slant one, which of the two types do you prefer?
Ditching the big cabs and going mostly with the OX was the smartest thing I’ve ever done. I do like the 212s for stage volume though. Great comparison!
Impressive demo... I really liked it... I prefer the definition of the bogner and the boogie table... I wanted to ask you about the guitar...which one is it? It sounds incredible too
If 30 years ago I was talking "warm", "not ear fatiguing", "pleasant" my mom would have loved Metal!! People today is so regular, conformist and non rebel at all... #InMyTimes #CoughCough
First equal 13:32 orange 6:21 Mesa traditional Second place 23:21 Marshall v30 Wish you'd played the same riff on all amps. Can't compare the bogner because you don't play the same riff on it
Interestingly when the room mics are playing especially on the Orange you can't really hear the ringiness noise, but the SM57 has that top end ringy noise. Could this be a mic placement issue? Or is this something that naturally happens? Quite a bit of difference when the 57 is right in front of the cab vs what it actually sounds in the room.
I think the Mesa OS sounded the best, but I’m partial to the Orange, the low end and mids are so nice to my ear. The first Marshall sounded like ass the second was great.
Close mic clips
02:07 mesa OS
06:21 mesa trad
09:30 bogner
12:52 orange
23:21 marshall v30
Bogners are sleeper cabs. They sound soooo good. Nice video though. It was great to hear them all back to back.
The Mesas just sit so well in a mix. Lately I have been on a Marshall kick. I recently got a 1982 JCM800 4x12 with original Rola 65s and a 1960a loaded with Marshall Vintage and DV77s. The 1982 is the angriest cab I have ever heard, and the combo I have in the 1960a is a match made in heaven.
I’m an old dude so the Marshall with V30 is pretty much the tone that’s imprinted in my brain. Gonna give some love to the Bogner cab though. They do some killer amps and cabs.
What a great shootout! Plus hearing you noodle around and reacting on the spot is gold. I'm a sucker for Marshall gear (not for down-tuned music) but the difference with the Vintage G12s in the last clip is crazy. Really considering having one of my Marshall cabs loaded with these. Thanks Mendel 🙂
That 1960 AV is amazing!
Obviously MESAs and the Bogner are incredible, but probably the Marshall is more versatile.
Really thank you!
I haven't even watched the video yet and I still know it will be pure quality. Love from Bulgaria
The Bogner kinda had that "bell tone" that is so coveted in bass amps. Interesting. This was a great comparison, thanks!. What I woils have found invaluable is to be able to see your eq settings. Frequency response is the name of the game, and a great equalizer can make almost any cab sound good. So each cab has its own starting point and it's good to see where it stands in the spectrum. It would also be great if you could compare your favorite eq settings with a flat setting.
That Marshall cab sounds incredible ❤
The Bogner sounds the most balanced and studio ready to my ears. The traditional Mesa is a good second. I would very much steer clear of the orange.
Why's that?
@@rikosimmo I don’t think the orange tone sits too well in a complex mix. On their own, they sound cool.
Thanks for the reply yes it seems to be missing some of the information to fully sit in a mix. Tossing up between the Mesa traditional and the orange. Thanks again😊@@Itsallawesome
Happy holidays and happy new year Mendel, thanks for the content this year. Cheers man! 🤘
Best cab shootout ever! Great playing too. How is this channel so small?
Because hes gay
Great comparison Mendel, thanks, looking forward to getting these IRs... Greetings from Ireland!
I'm glad I found this video. I own the Mesa Traditional. I bought it over the OS because it was the only one in stock. I love the cab but have always wondered how it would compare to the OS.
I'm in the same situation as you.
Dude, awesome playing and super informative!!!! Thanks for making the video.
23:03 mars v30
01:41 mesa os
Great video, awesome playing and sound quality.
Some constructive feedback would be to pay attention to edits and getting rid of unnecessary banter.
Otherwise I really enjoyed the playthroughs. Keep up the good work.
Can't go wrong with well used Mesa Cabs and broken in speakers. I bought my oversized and thats the only 4x12 I need for highgain tones.
what power amp are you running through? the marshall 1960av sounds good. I wish you had a MF400 to compare. Heard good things about those cabs.
Maybe I missed it, what are you using as a power amp?
Any informations about the poweramp used to power the cab ?
5:26 one of my favorite riffs ever. I still listen to Aeonian shift on repeat.
Where is it from?
@@MrStupidsignup ruclips.net/video/sPCA1SHiFwg/видео.html
The mesa is my favourite, Bogner is also good. I really don't like the 1960A cause of the high freq. as you said. 1960 V30 is alright. I think the mesa is the most balanced and has nice mids
Great video and surprisingly I prefer the mesa Standard here but, though the Marshall sound brittle/harsh you'd be able to eq to taste but for the sake of a read across test that would be confusing. Reckon they'd all work well adjusting the amp.
I bought the marshall 1960 g12t75 thinking i could eq it and nope.
That Orange seals the deal for me it’s so tight and the fullness from an Orange you can’t beat… Can’t wait to get an PPC412 angled for my Marshall DSL 100HR
Great riffing bro 👌🏾
What power amp are you using to drive the cab?
I think de Marshall 1960AV has the speakers Marshall G12 Vintage By Celestion , not V30 , unless has been change by user by V30 speakers, because from factory the Marshall 1960AV has the G12 Vintage ( and 1960A has the G12T-75 )
Just great comparison, thank you! I choosed Marshall equipped with Vintage.
The Orange sounds like the Bogner and the Mesa OS all at once, but with a darker mid range.
1960a with a mesa mark series head and Marshall jcm head though a mesa cab with v30s blended
Great comparison guys, I agree, the Traditional is an awesome cab, I like my Rectifier with my Traditional 4X12 but I think it has too much mids for my 6505+.
What's your favourite cab for your 6505+? I'm on a quest for a good 4x12 for my 6505 og
@@JaimeNoro I think the Mesa Oversized sounds fantastic with the 6505/+, the Uberkab, even the Traditional if you have the chance to play loud. I'm selling mine in favour of the OS 'cause I sold my Dual for a Diezel Vh4.
@@JaimeNoro I havent played the Oversized can but I have the Mesa Traditional and I use it with my 6505, KSR, and EVH 5153 100w Stealth. I think it sounds awesome. There is nothing I don't like about it and you can easily EQ some mids out if you need to.b
Awesome video! Really helpful.
Trying to decide between the mesa traditional and the bogner. I run a engl fireball 100 and a direwolf in front with a 10band eq.
Great comparison video!
Mesa and Bogner sound sick 🤘
they all sound very good
The orange is straight the other slant. This make big difference.
Bogner straight is awesome.
Solid state power amp? Just wondering because impedance curves would vary
Solid State yes
Such a good comparison.
TBH the oversized is better for solos, or if you're blending chainsaw tones with a normal amp tone, run the normal amp through the Mesa Trad and your chainsaw sound through the Mesa OS. Also, for people parallel processing bass into 3 sections, and reamping their bass through a guitar amp for one of those, use the OS for that.
Mixing the g12t with the v30 could sound pretty actually imo (
The bogner sounds huge
What power amp are you using?
My favorite was easily the 1960 v30 Marshall surprisingly
What year was the Mesa Traditional produced? I'm finally looking to get myself an old 4x12 Mesa and I'm not sure if I should get a straight or slant one, which of the two types do you prefer?
Go with an angled cabinet.
My favorite was the Bogner cab, but I'm surprised by that Marshall V cab!
Great comparison!!!
v30 marshall sounds killer
Awesome comparsion!Just Raw out of the box!
cool comparison! very informative thanks
Ditching the big cabs and going mostly with the OX was the smartest thing I’ve ever done. I do like the 212s for stage volume though. Great comparison!
Impressive demo... I really liked it... I prefer the definition of the bogner and the boogie table... I wanted to ask you about the guitar...which one is it? It sounds incredible too
Guessing the Cabs that aren’t already covered in the IR packs are the next ones to be released 👀
🤷🏾😉
For me the best sounding was the marshall cab with the v30, very balanced with nice mids .
If 30 years ago I was talking "warm", "not ear fatiguing", "pleasant" my mom would have loved Metal!! People today is so regular, conformist and non rebel at all... #InMyTimes #CoughCough
HOU! Mesa Trad and Bogner are clear and punchy for me! Impatient to see the other video part :D
14:17 orange drop A 7:00 Mesa drop A
which bogner?
orange all day
what power amp was being used here?
What Power Stage did u use?
Thx!
It's all about the speaker.
First equal 13:32 orange 6:21 Mesa traditional
Second place 23:21 Marshall v30
Wish you'd played the same riff on all amps. Can't compare the bogner because you don't play the same riff on it
Good video and amazing tone too
Marshall V30 is the best for me and my taste.
Hi, do you know if a 12x10 is a lot louder than a 2x12? Meaning one cab has a 12 inch and a 10 inch and the other has 2x12.
Is the 2x12 a lot louder?
What for speakers were in that bogner?
V30
Interestingly when the room mics are playing especially on the Orange you can't really hear the ringiness noise, but the SM57 has that top end ringy noise. Could this be a mic placement issue? Or is this something that naturally happens? Quite a bit of difference when the 57 is right in front of the cab vs what it actually sounds in the room.
"Heavy af" immediately starts riffin before done talking cuz it's so tasty and can't help it. Lol can relate.
Was there a part 2 to this cab comparison?
The orange sounded nasal compared to the mesa cabs.
The mesa cabs sounded by far the best.
Did the bogner have rear mounted speakers?
You need KSR in the shootout
I think the Mesa OS sounded the best, but I’m partial to the Orange, the low end and mids are so nice to my ear. The first Marshall sounded like ass the second was great.
I downloaded the free IR pack in the description, I only ask, what is the “m vol” cab based on? That one is my favorite!
All different cabs and blends.
Love my friedman straight 4x12 greenbacks top, V30's bottom
2 mics needed?
@@jjm9741 I dont mic my cabs, no need to
@@paisteplayer1040 recording?
@@jjm9741 I dont record but if I did, I'd double mic
Turn the camera mic down when the amp plays.
orange surprised. trad mesa is most mix ready
I vote Marshall
oranges have this 800 k sizzle thats a bit annoying
Cabs will make or break the sound, feel and response. Most important in the chain next to the player
dude is it just me or your downstrokes tighter than hetfields?
What power amp do you use?
Any chance of sharing that capture my man!?
Oh. I see it’s on your cortex cloud. Never mind. And THANK YOU for all that you do.
Why the lama´s wallpaper?
The Marshall 1960V rules
What poweramp are you using with the Quad Cortex?
For this shootout we used the Class D poweramp section from an Ampeg pf-500!
I use Duncan Powerstage 170 with my Axe Ultra/II and ENGL E530. Sounds abs great. Also a Class D poweramp btw.
Mendel Metal
my mesa 4x12 trad sounds opposite to this one, sounds darker than the orange
Excellent video
QUAD CORTEX !!!
3:38 - Periphery - Totla Mad kind of hahahah.
Sikth - Scent of the Obscene
@@Mendelian That makes a lot of sense considering I've heard them say they were heavily inspired by Sikth..
I think I found a lefty!
BOGNER !!!
Now, do that comparison with a real valve amp. YOu will be shocked
Not interested
Thanks for watching 🙏🏾❤️
What a sad person...
Boyfriend? Not metal.
Like the Bogner