**UPDATE** At 6:30, I mislabeled the cameras. In the individual shots, the A7IV and FX3 are mixed up... a few seconds later when I show all 3 side by side, the labels are correct! Thanks to @zeko reko for pointing this out and keen eye!
Quick question... according to sensor light, would the sigma 18-50 2.8 in apsc mode on the a7iv at 18mm have the same amount of sensor light as a full frame version 16-55 2.8 in 27mm on the a7iv in full frame? Like, will the 2.8 amount of light hitting the sensor be the same?
ok...its now 3 weeks that Iam posting a question that no one seems could not answer. Is that possible to have a raw video file from the a7iv with hdmi conected to an external monitor like ninja 5! So no compression at all???
Literally the only video I could find that went over the 1080p quality! Thanks for going over this, Dunna! Too many people get over excited by 4k and forget that you can only 120p in 1080. Glad you covered it
Hey Sam, so it looks like most likely, with a parent or guardian, you can make it work. Also, not sure what age you are but if you happen to be 17 and will turn 18 before the trip, that would also work.
My main reason for upgrading is the seemingly vast autofocus improvement over my A7III. That feature alone will directly impact the number of usable shots you get.
Why can’t my iPhone and Mac support 10bit footage? Is it my sd card, or is it the phone and MacBook? I record in 10 bit and when I try to import, Mac can’t play it, and iPhone won’t even import it. Help!
Many thanks for answering those questions. My only concern was the rolling shutter but as long as it is similar to A7iii's then I'm okay with it. I've used the a7iii for 3 years and rolling shutter wasn't a problem (it all depends on how we use the camera and what we use it for). I'm excited for you on your upcoming travels. I am going on a 3 months travel to the far east next Jan and will be taking the sony a7iv with me.
@@dunnadidit Yeah but don't expect it to be on Par with the A7s3, less to read out with that camera, this camera has over over 2x as much to read out. If you ever tried the A7r4 you will see how bad it can get, at 62 megapixels it can get pretty bad even in photos.
Well put together review and when tech reviewers are a dime a dozen now, looking fresh and unique with giving honest opinions. Keep up the great work! You won a subscription (And I DO NOT miss a single video!)
@@dunnadidit same, already pre-ordered, but coming from a Nikon D3500 even if the photography side isn't a big upgrade from the a7III, it is from where I am coming from LOL. great video, really helpful to know more about the quality and features to expect once it arrives. (though I wish it was 2weeks, not 2months :P )
Very solid content as usual. As I have not shot a lot of video, but hope to, I still get dizzy with all the codecs, bit rates, LUTs, and color grading. Maybe you have a video that breaks all that down? Or maybe know one. But nevertheless this vidio reinforces my confidence in my A7iv decision. And the A7Cii just came out and I still think this is the better choice for me. Thanks for all your great content!
I’ve definitely considered a video on this topic! My a7cii review comes out tomorrow and I touch on it a little bit but it could definitely use a more in depth look!
I believe the crop in 4K/60 is because the sensor read out speed, at this price point, is too slow to read the entire space of the sensor for 60FPS. This is where of a lot of the added cost of the 7SIII/FX3/A1 comes from, the higher read speed sensor. This is also why the rolling shutter is an issue with this camera and not so much on the higher end bodies. This concept is the same for distorted silent shooting for fast moving subjects. By the time the sensor reads from top to bottom, the subject has moved in the frame.
I think one point that reinforces it is that the R6 has similar issues and the S5 is much better but not perfect. I believe the Z5 is similar but I'm not sure
I've already pre-ordered my A7iv. (I'm at the front of the line at a major local camera shop. Heehee.) Personally, I think the benefits and the positives outweigh what others consider to be shortcomings. Or I consider them to have workarounds to overcome them. Until the A7iv is released, I can never watch enough A7iv videos. So, thank you for this.
disappointing camera i wished to buy but is not appealing at all.. the stacked sensor is a must .. so I don't see much of a difference with my a7III.. of course 10 bit is something but not, when there is a crop for 4k 60p ... why sonyyyyyy why such minor upgrade!!!!! and a bigger price !!! No way. When companies don't evolve for not compete with their lineup .. is awful for us.. canon finally is just giving us all, the best camera i would buy right now the R3 that offers all, especially no compromise for video.. 6k raw 60 P full frame.. is almost 3 times the price yes .. but is almost a definitive camera and future proof.. and allows for me the best quality wise system whoch is 6k that is easily scaled to 8k without loss... and also in 4k is just amazing... sony should have rais its bar... but no no 6k at all no raw.. and i am referring to FX6 especially a camare that could have had it all.. instead... not intresting.. the only camere that i would buy would be the A7sIII, here i can see innovation and a good product.. but the rest is just to minimal upgrade.. Love the canon and as soon i will gather money i will jump to their eco system even if i am a sony entusiast...
bro, this is such a great video, literally addressing all the concerns people have by actually going out and doing the tests. I can only imagine how long this wouldve taken you. Really appreciate it, just got yourself a nee sub :)
as an aspiring content creator, this was such a useful video. I was stuck on the A7C or A7IV as a first serious workhorse camera. Knowing that the image quality between the a7c/a7siii vs the a7iv isn't much different, there isn't much incentive for me to get the a7iv, other than getting it for the video capabilities. That being said, i really should try out the a7c, invest the leftover money on some quality glass and in the future, upgrade to the a7iv instead of the a7siii for its video capabilities since it is much cheaper and still a pretty good video camera. Thanks for this video. I'll still go to my local camera shop and rent out these equipment to get a feel for the camera. Love this indepth review man.
I am surprised that you missed the most important improvement, that of video focusing and tracking. The A7 IV is ahead of the A7c who is ahead of the A7iii. The user's control of how fast it tracks moving objects and people and how sticky you can make it, is the main reason most people are upgrading. And this is an area that demand fast processors (Like the A1). THAT is where the processing power went in case you still wonder :)
This was a followup video as I mentioned. I talked about AF in the first video and no one asked any questions about it so it didn't make it into this one. You're right though... the AF is great!
As a photographer I use the EVF almost all the time. a7iv have a better EVF than a7iii, maybe it don't make a huge difference. a7c have a terrible EVF.
Such a solid video man. Great questions and great insight into this upcoming camera. Helped validate my pre-order of the camera. I feel it will be a huge upgrade from my A7III especially for lapses.
Yesterday received My A7IV and i was scratching my head on these codecs, but again Dunna Dit it, so then question popped in my mind which card I need for S, I, & HS, guess what Dunna Did It again, thanks man, you are a great help
I shoot still photos, and I'm happy with my a7iii, but I am eager to upgrade to the a7iv. I mostly want it for the slightly better ergonomics, better I/O covers, and AF improvements. Oh, and higher rez sensor is just a nice bonus.
About monitoring audio with bt headphones there is a workaround. You can use your phone to monitor wireless via wifi and then use youf bt headohones conected to your phone to monitor the audio. Its gonna have a small latency but its so low that its nlt a problem at least for me!
You should definetly visit south italy.. nearby my house theres a paradise of undiscovered places of untouched nature. Make a whistle if you need a guide and a free place to stay (i got a airbb apartment) you wont regret 😎
Late to the party here, lol. I was watching HARV Video/Audio Stuff (the YT channel) and he's had a very difficult time shooting smooth high framerate footage with the a7IV. Any thoughts man?
Great video! One question though; in your comparison photos of the lake/ mountain, the a73 showed ripples on the water and the a74 there weren't many and just looked smoother; was it a difference in camera or just timing of the shot?
Most likely just the timing of the shot. Took me a bit to swap out the cameras and the lens and such so that they’d all be in the same place and with the same lens.
I have an a6400 and find that I am missing some shots by using non-stabilized lenses (tamron 11-20 f2.8 and Sony 16-55 f2.8). My question is about selling this gear and upgrading to a body with IBIS. I really only shoot photos so am not concerned with video features. With the Sony a7iv being out, it seems like there are some great deals to be had on used versions of the a7iii so I was wondering if a used a7iii would be the best way to jump up to full frame, or if the a7iv is worth the extra money. I've seen really clean a7iii bodies going for around $2000 CAD which is a massive savings over the a7iv when you factor in taxes. Thanks for all the awesome videos!
I think that anything you use will be an upgrade over the 6400 when it comes to moving up to full frame the a7iii takes insane photos, the a7riii also takes insane photos and it has that 40 something megapixel sensor which is wild and also puts it in about the same photo range as the new a7iv with its 33 mp sensor so if you’re trying to get close to the a7iv get the a7riii it’s around 2400 used RN at least that’s what the one I saw today at Best Buy was selling for
I’m curious if the dynamic range differs between the A7iii and A7iv on regular 4K shooting and also if the raw files for photos can be pushed more on exposure and color when editing? Thank you.
*Does Sony shoot 8 or 10 bit 4:2:2 in anything other than h.264/265? I don’t think these are comparatively with FREE Davinci resolve?* Will these work with the trial version of Final Cut Pro? Cheers
@@dunnadidit Ha ha... I do know peope here who have been using Sony cameras, so it should be up to the task. I haven't bought a camera in many, many years and have been looking to see what the current models are like. A few years ago I was editing some footage from a variety of cameras and one in particular had a particularly nice image so I asked which camera that was and was surprised when they told me it was a Sony. Sony used to have a real problem with clipping around high-contrast areas, but now the image is so clean. A little concerned about the rolling shutter, though. Does that lessen when not shooting 4K?
I’m choosing this over the C, because I know no matter what I’m going to do, the screen, and the interface is going to be a downgrade from my iPhone. And I even struggle with the screen on my iPhone sometimes so I’m going to be in a world of hurt if I go with the C. Sounds to me like it’s going to be worth the jump in price just so I don’t drive myself crazy
Thx man..great review. I just moved over from Canon and ordered an A7 IV. Supposed to be here in a couple days. Not gonna go in to why I switched, but to say I have been a Canon shooter for over 18 Years. All good, great cameras just time for me to move on. Look forward to ithe change. I have tested Sonys in the past so Im not totally blind going in. Really love your style of photo and video and the channel.
Great overview….ya for me I am good. I have A7siii and A7c. Not a big enough upgrade from A7c to A7iv, plus I just love the size of the A7c. Plus my A7c is mainly for photography. See you in the next one
Been using the A7C for the last year and few months. It was my first full frame mirrorless camera when I transitioned from the Canon APS-C DSLR world (80D) to the Sony full frame world! At first I looked at the A7iii but I needed the updated video features, color science, autofocus and flip out screen that the A7C just so happened to have over the A7iii. Come about a year and a few months later and having made some money using the A7C, I think I’m ready to sell it so I can upgrade to the A7IV. The A7C has served me well and has helped me create great video and photo projects (even shot a wedding with it if you can believe it. No Duel SD card slot made it extremely stressful though lol) however I think in order to be taken more seriously as a professional creator and also be able to fully trust and rely on my gear with the additional pro features I’m not getting the with A7C. I think it’s worth the upgrade
What actually is 10 bit? Is it set it and forget it? Or does it require extra editing? Kind of like the iPhone has the ultra high dynamic range or whatever they call it where it changes the image totally blown out until you fix it. In the editing.
Yeah, the experience of using the camera is better for sure… but the experience of using the a7iii isn’t bad by any means. It’s like comparing two fast, fancy cars… sure, one is probably better than the other, but they’re both better than my Kia.
@@dunnadidit yeah there are certainly differences, just not enough to spend my money on. If it had 4k 120 with a crop I think that would be a bigger deal. I don't use 60p for anything haha but thanks for the review I appreciate the insight. That money can goto upgrading my 24-70 to the sigma or new Samyang which will be a much bigger improvement.
Finally a video which compares skin tones of A7IV and FX3/A7s3! I watched so many reviews but none of them answered my question but your video did it. Thank you for that.
Don't buy it simple, unless u want to photograph where I live--Fairbanks, Alaska--and need a handwarmer that costs $2,500 (body alone). Best handwarmer, most expensive one on the planet. An overheating wonder. Genius guys in Tokyo created it, perfect for Arctic Frozen-minus 40 degree nights. Even better at minus 60 to minus 70 degrees. We do get them here! The pefect winter cam if you need to keep your hands warm. Forget any pics, the cam freezes up too, but the handwarmer part woris fine! 😎😎
To me it is a big upgrade to a7III/a7c. But my situation is I am always bring and use 2 cameras for my video shoot. My a7III and a7c works seamlessly together. For wedding if we have second shooter, then we have like 4, 5 cameras. It is kind pointless for one camera has 10bit 422 shooting slog3 and rest of cameras still shoot 8bit 420 in cine2 or hlg. I would say if one has a7sIII and want a second camera is less expensive than a7sIII but still retain all the codec, then this is the great option. But for me until I can afford two a74, I will still stick to my current camera set up.
Ok, thanks, x2 the price of the Panasonic S5 with less functionalities, 10bit 4K Sony vs 12 bit 4K and 5.9K ProRes or B-Res on Atomos on Panasonic for half the price. AF is the only advantage. Lol The most simple decision I ever made.
1:19 Absolutely NOT... same mistake as almost every other RUclipsr makes. >80% of us watch you on a tiny 720p Mob screen. If you wantt to show IQ zoom in 400%.
I intended to buy a Sony a7IV, but on the store's website there were many who mentioned that they were returning because overheating. 2 buyers mentioned that although they set Temp. to high, the camera stopped after 8 minutes of filming. Both strangely mentioned the same value 8 minutes. (In Europe) Another said that overheating occurred when he was setting up the camera for the first time. It didn't even let him set the camera. Can the camera record 4K 24 fps for 8 minutes or an hour? Could it be from slow V30 or V60 SD memory cards? Do SFexpress cards solve the problem? Everything seems superlative, but 2500 $ for 8 minutes is not worth it. Thank you!
Hi, Im only a hobbiest/family historian. Ive a 7r3 & many lenses. Im wondring if I buy The 7r4? Though I really like The flip screen for incLuding self pictures. Thank you.
Yes, friends, Sony has ripped this camera a lot, unfortunately, I was able to buy this camera after years of work, but with this hot problem, I recommend that you never buy this camera, Canon and Nikon are the best, they say update or card. Change the memory, it's all bad, didn't Sony test them during production? It's nonsense...🤮🤮🤮🤮😪
Excellent video! I’m upgrading to this from an a7iii. I also have an a7siii so the a7iv will be an excellent b cam for video since now it has the same codecs as the a7siii, and for photos I’m really looking forward to the 4D tracking focus and higher MP.
I just bought this camera after using the a6400 for about a year and a half. It arrives tomorrow. The negatives this camera have are nothing short of what I’ve already had experience with in my a6400
Why do people stress so much about rolling shutter, I mean who’s panning ridiculously. If you are you need to go back to camera basics. Great job On the video Dunna
I got a Sony a3000 and still can squeeze the juice out of it both photo and even video (surprisingly 😅), but I think it will be more sense to upgrade for me to the a7iv however the a7iii are coming with very cool bundles and low prices which are very tempting
Not a fan of the crop in 4k. I was really hoping it didn't have it. I spent so much money on a 12-24mm 2.8 gmaster, only to have it cropped. The thing is, im a hybrid shooter between photos and video and was hoping to have an all in one
im looking for an upgrade from sony a6400 and kinda hoping to get client works does this camera enough to be a professional camera? Love from Edmonton!
Big thanks for this and for people who asked the questions! I'm really interested on 1080p modes as I never use 4K. I don't have enough SSD space or powerful computer for that. Do you know if you can do 120fps in 1080p APSC crop mode? Also, is active stabilization allowed in crop mode? And finally, can you alternate both SD cards slots for storaging the videos? I mean, storaging 24fps files in SD Slot 1 and the 120fps files in SD Slot 2. Thank you!
Weather sealing doesn’t mean you can submerge the camera under water or shoot with in the rain 🙄in either case you should have protective gear for the device. Weather sealing means that in high conditions of dust, rain, freezing temperatures, and moisture the camera is sealed enough that it can withstand and not be effected so easily. Water resistance means the camera can endure a splash or two and they mean water coming from above mostly rain. But you should use an umbrella and protect it as much as possible. That’s it. Also weather proofing doesn’t prevent condensation. The canons D lines are weather proof their thick heavy bodies are reliable. I would find it hard to believe the Sony match up to them but we shall see. I’ve had my mk ii for 8 years snd it works. Let’s see how long my Sony will last in weathered conditions.
How do Sony cameras handle extreme weather conditions? I have yet to find a single video on RUclips, of anyone using a Sony camera in pouring rain, extreme cold or extreme humidity. The impression I got so far from trying to research Sony cameras build quality and weather sealing is that either Sony users are afraid to use their cameras in extreme weather or the Sony cameras can't handle rain and humidity well... I'm asking because I shoot WRC/FIA and other Rally events all over Europe, Asia and Americas, with sometimes having to stay in the rain, walking around the track/stage for the entire day - and I would like to switch to Sony but I just can't find any solid proof that Sony cameras can indeed candle extreme weather - which I'm mostly interested about how they are in rain, more specifically heavy rain. If anyone here owns an a7iv, a7Riv, a9ll or a1 and you have shot in extreme weather, please reply! Thanks in advance!
I shoot in reasonably cold conditions and dunked my Fx3 in a decent amount of snow so far this winter season with no issues at all. I also had the a74 out in quite a bit of rain a couple times with no issue as well. I don’t know if I’d call the situations extreme and I did try to shield it if I could, but in the end, they both got good and wet without problems.
What camera did you use to record your sit down part of this video ? I am looking to invest into a camera and lens for beauty videos and photography’s. Just a camera that will make my videos look high end and I don’t know what I should get.
I was using the Sony FX3 for that part. That’s my typical A-camera. That being said, there’s a lot of the look that comes from the lens choice, lighting and color grading too. It’s not necessarily that it comes out of the camera looking like that.
Zero interest in this camera. I'm shooting with the RIII and RIV and don't have any plans to upgrade for the next several years. I just enjoy your reviews haha.
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How quickly does it switch between photos and video? I am a hybrid shooter for weddings. I need to be able to switch quickly between photos and video throughout the day. The a7iii is slow in this regard, especially if there’s anything in the buffer after firing off multiple photos. The Nikon z6ii almost instantly switches back and forth with no issue, but I want to stick with Sony if possible.
**UPDATE** At 6:30, I mislabeled the cameras. In the individual shots, the A7IV and FX3 are mixed up... a few seconds later when I show all 3 side by side, the labels are correct! Thanks to @zeko reko for pointing this out and keen eye!
Quick question... according to sensor light, would the sigma 18-50 2.8 in apsc mode on the a7iv at 18mm have the same amount of sensor light as a full frame version 16-55 2.8 in 27mm on the a7iv in full frame? Like, will the 2.8 amount of light hitting the sensor be the same?
ok...its now 3 weeks that Iam posting a question that no one seems could not answer.
Is that possible to have a raw video file from the a7iv with hdmi conected to an external monitor like ninja 5! So no compression at all???
Literally the only video I could find that went over the 1080p quality! Thanks for going over this, Dunna! Too many people get over excited by 4k and forget that you can only 120p in 1080. Glad you covered it
My pleasure Jack!
Thanks
With the 2022 trip you have to be over 18, are you aloud if travelling with an older friend?
Hmmm, I’m not sure about this! I’ll see what trovatrip says
Hey Sam, so it looks like most likely, with a parent or guardian, you can make it work. Also, not sure what age you are but if you happen to be 17 and will turn 18 before the trip, that would also work.
My main reason for upgrading is the seemingly vast autofocus improvement over my A7III. That feature alone will directly impact the number of usable shots you get.
100%
Good point
Exactly. I was disappointed with the A7III auto focus in dark conditions
Higher megapixels 4k60, flip out screen, unlimited Recording, better color science, focus breathing correction, better low light less grainy,
10bit is key too
Why can’t my iPhone and Mac support 10bit footage? Is it my sd card, or is it the phone and MacBook? I record in 10 bit and when I try to import, Mac can’t play it, and iPhone won’t even import it. Help!
Does anyone know what video setting I can your for the A7iv can focus on a item rather then person as a product reviewer.
Turn off face detection
Many thanks for answering those questions.
My only concern was the rolling shutter but as long as it is similar to A7iii's then I'm okay with it.
I've used the a7iii for 3 years and rolling shutter wasn't a problem (it all depends on how we use the camera and what we use it for).
I'm excited for you on your upcoming travels.
I am going on a 3 months travel to the far east next Jan and will be taking the sony a7iv with me.
Yeah you’ll be just fine with rolling shutter. I think we’re just getting pickier nowadays haha.
@@dunnadidit Yeah but don't expect it to be on Par with the A7s3, less to read out with that camera, this camera has over over 2x as much to read out. If you ever tried the A7r4 you will see how bad it can get, at 62 megapixels it can get pretty bad even in photos.
Well put together review and when tech reviewers are a dime a dozen now, looking fresh and unique with giving honest opinions. Keep up the great work! You won a subscription (And I DO NOT miss a single video!)
Thanks so much for saying that!!
Definitely answered a few questions I had even though I’ve already pre-ordered mine. Thanks for the video!
My pleasure!!
@@dunnadidit same, already pre-ordered, but coming from a Nikon D3500 even if the photography side isn't a big upgrade from the a7III, it is from where I am coming from LOL. great video, really helpful to know more about the quality and features to expect once it arrives. (though I wish it was 2weeks, not 2months :P )
Haha I’m stoked for you!
Very solid content as usual. As I have not shot a lot of video, but hope to, I still get dizzy with all the codecs, bit rates, LUTs, and color grading. Maybe you have a video that breaks all that down? Or maybe know one. But nevertheless this vidio reinforces my confidence in my A7iv decision. And the A7Cii just came out and I still think this is the better choice for me. Thanks for all your great content!
I’ve definitely considered a video on this topic! My a7cii review comes out tomorrow and I touch on it a little bit but it could definitely use a more in depth look!
I believe the crop in 4K/60 is because the sensor read out speed, at this price point, is too slow to read the entire space of the sensor for 60FPS. This is where of a lot of the added cost of the 7SIII/FX3/A1 comes from, the higher read speed sensor. This is also why the rolling shutter is an issue with this camera and not so much on the higher end bodies. This concept is the same for distorted silent shooting for fast moving subjects. By the time the sensor reads from top to bottom, the subject has moved in the frame.
Yup! Exactly!
Canon r6 nuff said!
I think one point that reinforces it is that the R6 has similar issues and the S5 is much better but not perfect. I believe the Z5 is similar but I'm not sure
Really useful recap man. Thank you!
Thanks dude!!
I've already pre-ordered my A7iv. (I'm at the front of the line at a major local camera shop. Heehee.)
Personally, I think the benefits and the positives outweigh what others consider to be shortcomings. Or I consider them to have workarounds to overcome them. Until the A7iv is released, I can never watch enough A7iv videos. So, thank you for this.
Just got mine. It’s pretty fun!
disappointing camera i wished to buy but is not appealing at all.. the stacked sensor is a must .. so I don't see much of a difference with my a7III.. of course 10 bit is something but not, when there is a crop for 4k 60p ... why sonyyyyyy why such minor upgrade!!!!! and a bigger price !!! No way. When companies don't evolve for not compete with their lineup .. is awful for us.. canon finally is just giving us all, the best camera i would buy right now the R3 that offers all, especially no compromise for video.. 6k raw 60 P full frame.. is almost 3 times the price yes .. but is almost a definitive camera and future proof.. and allows for me the best quality wise system whoch is 6k that is easily scaled to 8k without loss... and also in 4k is just amazing... sony should have rais its bar... but no no 6k at all no raw.. and i am referring to FX6 especially a camare that could have had it all.. instead... not intresting.. the only camere that i would buy would be the A7sIII, here i can see innovation and a good product.. but the rest is just to minimal upgrade.. Love the canon and as soon i will gather money i will jump to their eco system even if i am a sony entusiast...
bro, this is such a great video, literally addressing all the concerns people have by actually going out and doing the tests. I can only imagine how long this wouldve taken you. Really appreciate it, just got yourself a nee sub :)
as an aspiring content creator, this was such a useful video. I was stuck on the A7C or A7IV as a first serious workhorse camera. Knowing that the image quality between the a7c/a7siii vs the a7iv isn't much different, there isn't much incentive for me to get the a7iv, other than getting it for the video capabilities. That being said, i really should try out the a7c, invest the leftover money on some quality glass and in the future, upgrade to the a7iv instead of the a7siii for its video capabilities since it is much cheaper and still a pretty good video camera. Thanks for this video. I'll still go to my local camera shop and rent out these equipment to get a feel for the camera.
Love this indepth review man.
I am surprised that you missed the most important improvement, that of video focusing and tracking. The A7 IV is ahead of the A7c who is ahead of the A7iii. The user's control of how fast it tracks moving objects and people and how sticky you can make it, is the main reason most people are upgrading. And this is an area that demand fast processors (Like the A1). THAT is where the processing power went in case you still wonder :)
This was a followup video as I mentioned. I talked about AF in the first video and no one asked any questions about it so it didn't make it into this one. You're right though... the AF is great!
R6 nuff said
As a photographer I use the EVF almost all the time. a7iv have a better EVF than a7iii, maybe it don't make a huge difference. a7c have a terrible EVF.
The most in-depth, non-bais and informative video on the A7IV i've seen to date. Thank you for doing this, Dunna!
My pleasure!!
People who ask 'should I upgrade' are people who have no good reason for upgrading.
Such a solid video man. Great questions and great insight into this upcoming camera. Helped validate my pre-order of the camera. I feel it will be a huge upgrade from my A7III especially for lapses.
Glad it was helpful my man!!
Yes !
The separation of photo and video settings as well as the switch justifies the upgrade for me.
Nice!
Wow! Just a treasure-trove of information very well presented! Thanks - from Edmonton too. 🇨🇦
Best 20 minutes to spend on YT about this camera. Thank you for all the honest and calm presented information. You did it. ;-)
Thanks for saying that!!
Yesterday received My A7IV and i was scratching my head on these codecs, but again Dunna Dit it, so then question popped in my mind which card I need for S, I, & HS, guess what Dunna Did It again, thanks man, you are a great help
Niiice!
I shoot still photos, and I'm happy with my a7iii, but I am eager to upgrade to the a7iv. I mostly want it for the slightly better ergonomics, better I/O covers, and AF improvements. Oh, and higher rez sensor is just a nice bonus.
Yeah if those quality of life improvements are the winner for you… they are awesome!
About monitoring audio with bt headphones there is a workaround. You can use your phone to monitor wireless via wifi and then use youf bt headohones conected to your phone to monitor the audio. Its gonna have a small latency but its so low that its nlt a problem at least for me!
Interesting, I didn't know that it sent audio over the wireless connection!
Dude you came here and didn’t tell me 😭😭😭. I’m very near Waikiki. Let go to Sapporo for mountains 🏔🤙🏽 #Aloha
You should definetly visit south italy.. nearby my house theres a paradise of undiscovered places of untouched nature. Make a whistle if you need a guide and a free place to stay (i got a airbb apartment) you wont regret 😎
And then he said he went to Hawaii like as if he went to the bathroom oh so casually 😂
Haha 😂 I just can’t talk about why yet… so I had to say it kind of in passing.
Late to the party here, lol. I was watching HARV Video/Audio Stuff (the YT channel) and he's had a very difficult time shooting smooth high framerate footage with the a7IV. Any thoughts man?
Hmmm I’ve never run into any issues that I noticed, but I’ll have to do some more tests and check out his video.
@@dunnadidit Cool, I appreciate the lightning fast reply there man. I haven't heard of anyone else with the issue.
Cant wait to upgrade to the a7iv from my canon 6D, i think it will be really significant
Great video! One question though; in your comparison photos of the lake/ mountain, the a73 showed ripples on the water and the a74 there weren't many and just looked smoother; was it a difference in camera or just timing of the shot?
Most likely just the timing of the shot. Took me a bit to swap out the cameras and the lens and such so that they’d all be in the same place and with the same lens.
Moving up from an a6100, super happy to see this kind of testing to validate my purchase
Patrick Rothfuss has shown up in more than one of your videos. Love it.
So gooood!
Too late man, I already bought it, but I'll watch it anyways 😂
Haha 😂 good choice!
I have an a6400 and find that I am missing some shots by using non-stabilized lenses (tamron 11-20 f2.8 and Sony 16-55 f2.8). My question is about selling this gear and upgrading to a body with IBIS. I really only shoot photos so am not concerned with video features. With the Sony a7iv being out, it seems like there are some great deals to be had on used versions of the a7iii so I was wondering if a used a7iii would be the best way to jump up to full frame, or if the a7iv is worth the extra money. I've seen really clean a7iii bodies going for around $2000 CAD which is a massive savings over the a7iv when you factor in taxes. Thanks for all the awesome videos!
I think that anything you use will be an upgrade over the 6400 when it comes to moving up to full frame the a7iii takes insane photos, the a7riii also takes insane photos and it has that 40 something megapixel sensor which is wild and also puts it in about the same photo range as the new a7iv with its 33 mp sensor so if you’re trying to get close to the a7iv get the a7riii it’s around 2400 used RN at least that’s what the one I saw today at Best Buy was selling for
Mahm thank you for this. You answered all my questions . Can’t wait to get this one, upgrading from an A6000 lmao
I’m curious if the dynamic range differs between the A7iii and A7iv on regular 4K shooting and also if the raw files for photos can be pushed more on exposure and color when editing? Thank you.
*Does Sony shoot 8 or 10 bit 4:2:2 in anything other than h.264/265? I don’t think these are comparatively with FREE Davinci resolve?* Will these work with the trial version of Final Cut Pro? Cheers
Comment before watching: Pre-ordered this camera the second it went live on B&H. was waiting a long time - plz no make me sad. :)
Haha 😂 don’t worry, it’s a great camera, you’ll love it!
Mentions shooting in 29º weather in Hawaii while talking about overheating. Me, living in Bangkok: "And what about on a hot day?"
Haha I’m from Canada. That’s nearly as hot as it gets
@@dunnadidit Ha ha... I do know peope here who have been using Sony cameras, so it should be up to the task. I haven't bought a camera in many, many years and have been looking to see what the current models are like. A few years ago I was editing some footage from a variety of cameras and one in particular had a particularly nice image so I asked which camera that was and was surprised when they told me it was a Sony. Sony used to have a real problem with clipping around high-contrast areas, but now the image is so clean. A little concerned about the rolling shutter, though. Does that lessen when not shooting 4K?
I’m choosing this over the C, because I know no matter what I’m going to do, the screen, and the interface is going to be a downgrade from my iPhone. And I even struggle with the screen on my iPhone sometimes so I’m going to be in a world of hurt if I go with the C. Sounds to me like it’s going to be worth the jump in price just so I don’t drive myself crazy
Thx man..great review. I just moved over from Canon and ordered an A7 IV. Supposed to be here in a couple days. Not gonna go in to why I switched, but to say I have been a Canon shooter for over 18 Years. All good, great cameras just time for me to move on. Look forward to ithe change. I have tested Sonys in the past so Im not totally blind going in. Really love your style of photo and video and the channel.
helo btother is it worth it for me to buy it for vlogs or wedding photo shoots.
Great camera for that!
Great overview….ya for me I am good. I have A7siii and A7c. Not a big enough upgrade from A7c to A7iv, plus I just love the size of the A7c. Plus my A7c is mainly for photography. See you in the next one
Noice!!
I love the a7c but for the active stabilisation I want a7iv... So how good the active mode in the a7siii of your... Don't you need gimbal with this
Been using the A7C for the last year and few months. It was my first full frame mirrorless camera when I transitioned from the Canon APS-C DSLR world (80D) to the Sony full frame world! At first I looked at the A7iii but I needed the updated video features, color science, autofocus and flip out screen that the A7C just so happened to have over the A7iii. Come about a year and a few months later and having made some money using the A7C, I think I’m ready to sell it so I can upgrade to the A7IV. The A7C has served me well and has helped me create great video and photo projects (even shot a wedding with it if you can believe it. No Duel SD card slot made it extremely stressful though lol) however I think in order to be taken more seriously as a professional creator and also be able to fully trust and rely on my gear with the additional pro features I’m not getting the with A7C. I think it’s worth the upgrade
What actually is 10 bit? Is it set it and forget it? Or does it require extra editing? Kind of like the iPhone has the ultra high dynamic range or whatever they call it where it changes the image totally blown out until you fix it. In the editing.
Yeah I have the A7iii and I'm not sure I'm gonna upgrade. Especially if there isn't much of a difference in pictures.
Yeah, the experience of using the camera is better for sure… but the experience of using the a7iii isn’t bad by any means. It’s like comparing two fast, fancy cars… sure, one is probably better than the other, but they’re both better than my Kia.
@@dunnadidit yeah there are certainly differences, just not enough to spend my money on. If it had 4k 120 with a crop I think that would be a bigger deal. I don't use 60p for anything haha but thanks for the review I appreciate the insight. That money can goto upgrading my 24-70 to the sigma or new Samyang which will be a much bigger improvement.
Bam! Well I’m glad I helped with the decision!
Finally a video which compares skin tones of A7IV and FX3/A7s3! I watched so many reviews but none of them answered my question but your video did it. Thank you for that.
Don't buy it simple, unless u want to photograph where I live--Fairbanks, Alaska--and need a handwarmer that costs $2,500 (body alone). Best handwarmer, most expensive one on the planet. An overheating wonder. Genius guys in Tokyo created it, perfect for Arctic Frozen-minus 40 degree nights. Even better at minus 60 to minus 70 degrees. We do get them here! The pefect winter cam if you need to keep your hands warm. Forget any pics, the cam freezes up too, but the handwarmer part woris fine! 😎😎
To me it is a big upgrade to a7III/a7c. But my situation is I am always bring and use 2 cameras for my video shoot. My a7III and a7c works seamlessly together. For wedding if we have second shooter, then we have like 4, 5 cameras. It is kind pointless for one camera has 10bit 422 shooting slog3 and rest of cameras still shoot 8bit 420 in cine2 or hlg. I would say if one has a7sIII and want a second camera is less expensive than a7sIII but still retain all the codec, then this is the great option. But for me until I can afford two a74, I will still stick to my current camera set up.
Ok, thanks, x2 the price of the Panasonic S5 with less functionalities, 10bit 4K Sony vs 12 bit 4K and 5.9K ProRes or B-Res on Atomos on Panasonic for half the price.
AF is the only advantage. Lol
The most simple decision I ever made.
1:19 Absolutely NOT... same mistake as almost every other RUclipsr makes. >80% of us watch you on a tiny 720p Mob screen. If you wantt to show IQ zoom in 400%.
I intended to buy a Sony a7IV, but on the store's website there were many who mentioned that they were returning because overheating.
2 buyers mentioned that although they set Temp. to high, the camera stopped after 8 minutes of filming. Both strangely mentioned the same value 8 minutes. (In Europe)
Another said that overheating occurred when he was setting up the camera for the first time. It didn't even let him set the camera.
Can the camera record 4K 24 fps for 8 minutes or an hour? Could it be from slow V30 or V60 SD memory cards? Do SFexpress cards solve the problem?
Everything seems superlative, but 2500 $ for 8 minutes is not worth it.
Thank you!
Hi, Im only a hobbiest/family historian. Ive a 7r3 & many lenses. Im wondring if I buy The 7r4? Though I really like The flip screen for incLuding self pictures. Thank you.
Yes, friends, Sony has ripped this camera a lot, unfortunately, I was able to buy this camera after years of work, but with this hot problem, I recommend that you never buy this camera, Canon and Nikon are the best, they say update or card. Change the memory, it's all bad, didn't Sony test them during production? It's nonsense...🤮🤮🤮🤮😪
Thanks for the video! I may have missed it, but what is the video quality in the S&Q settings? Is it still 1080p like the A7III?
4k!! 10 bit 4:2:2 and everything!
@@dunnadidit alright awesome! Thanks for the reply!
Excellent video! I’m upgrading to this from an a7iii. I also have an a7siii so the a7iv will be an excellent b cam for video since now it has the same codecs as the a7siii, and for photos I’m really looking forward to the 4D tracking focus and higher MP.
Hi. I’m just a hobbiest/family historian. Ive a 7r3, do I need 7r4? Though I like the flip to side screen. Thank u.
And coming from a Samsung Galaxy S20 plus HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHA I ordered it for my first cam (Hybrid fotographer)
I just bought this camera after using the a6400 for about a year and a half. It arrives tomorrow. The negatives this camera have are nothing short of what I’ve already had experience with in my a6400
Why do people stress so much about rolling shutter, I mean who’s panning ridiculously. If you are you need to go back to camera basics.
Great job On the video Dunna
I got a Sony a3000 and still can squeeze the juice out of it both photo and even video (surprisingly 😅), but I think it will be more sense to upgrade for me to the a7iv however the a7iii are coming with very cool bundles and low prices which are very tempting
in the a7III face detection focus was disabled in 1080 120fps mode. how about the a7IV?
Not a fan of the crop in 4k. I was really hoping it didn't have it. I spent so much money on a 12-24mm 2.8 gmaster, only to have it cropped. The thing is, im a hybrid shooter between photos and video and was hoping to have an all in one
I hear you 100% I think there are a lot of people in that boat. That’s why I think I’m still going to get an a1
Loved your Northern Lights photos! Beautiful!
Thank you!!
im looking for an upgrade from sony a6400 and kinda hoping to get client works does this camera enough to be a professional camera? Love from Edmonton!
Dude, Jump cuts everywhere. Not bad content, just jarring seeing that happen every few seconds.
is sad because full HDMI not give external RAW video recording features
Big thanks for this and for people who asked the questions! I'm really interested on 1080p modes as I never use 4K. I don't have enough SSD space or powerful computer for that. Do you know if you can do 120fps in 1080p APSC crop mode? Also, is active stabilization allowed in crop mode? And finally, can you alternate both SD cards slots for storaging the videos? I mean, storaging 24fps files in SD Slot 1 and the 120fps files in SD Slot 2. Thank you!
The thrilling sound got me like I'm watching horror movie 😁😅😂
A7IV is made in China! For that reason I did not upgrade to the A7IV and changed my kit completely to Nikon Z7ii.
Weather sealing doesn’t mean you can submerge the camera under water or shoot with in the rain 🙄in either case you should have protective gear for the device. Weather sealing means that in high conditions of dust, rain, freezing temperatures, and moisture the camera is sealed enough that it can withstand and not be effected so easily. Water resistance means the camera can endure a splash or two and they mean water coming from above mostly rain. But you should use an umbrella and protect it as much as possible. That’s it. Also weather proofing doesn’t prevent condensation. The canons D lines are weather proof their thick heavy bodies are reliable. I would find it hard to believe the Sony match up to them but we shall see. I’ve had my mk ii for 8 years snd it works. Let’s see how long my Sony will last in weathered conditions.
Travel to Ladakh, India. You will LOVE this place for photography!!!
Great video. Not many people can articulate well the way you do. Thanks
Is 35mm OK for the type of videos I do? Or should I go with a different type of lens?
I need this upgrade, I have the Sony NEX7....Sooo yea that's a upgrade for me.
I wouldn't mind going with the R6 but I've seen that the Ibis is pretty wobbly and ofc the lenses are expensive
Great video. Do you shoot in slog3? Do you overexpose +2? What filters did you use for this video?
Why anyone is giving information about HDMI output!? is that a secret? =D
29c is a joke, i live in a country with summer days up to 45c, how will the camera perform is such temperatures?
How do Sony cameras handle extreme weather conditions? I have yet to find a single video on RUclips, of anyone using a Sony camera in pouring rain, extreme cold or extreme humidity. The impression I got so far from trying to research Sony cameras build quality and weather sealing is that either Sony users are afraid to use their cameras in extreme weather or the Sony cameras can't handle rain and humidity well... I'm asking because I shoot WRC/FIA and other Rally events all over Europe, Asia and Americas, with sometimes having to stay in the rain, walking around the track/stage for the entire day - and I would like to switch to Sony but I just can't find any solid proof that Sony cameras can indeed candle extreme weather - which I'm mostly interested about how they are in rain, more specifically heavy rain. If anyone here owns an a7iv, a7Riv, a9ll or a1 and you have shot in extreme weather, please reply! Thanks in advance!
I shoot in reasonably cold conditions and dunked my Fx3 in a decent amount of snow so far this winter season with no issues at all. I also had the a74 out in quite a bit of rain a couple times with no issue as well. I don’t know if I’d call the situations extreme and I did try to shield it if I could, but in the end, they both got good and wet without problems.
Im so Happy with my@7III ! I Upgrade in maybe 2 years !
How about sony a7rv bro ....?
What camera did you use to record your sit down part of this video ? I am looking to invest into a camera and lens for beauty videos and photography’s. Just a camera that will make my videos look high end and I don’t know what I should get.
I was using the Sony FX3 for that part. That’s my typical A-camera. That being said, there’s a lot of the look that comes from the lens choice, lighting and color grading too. It’s not necessarily that it comes out of the camera looking like that.
Didn’t the A7C get a autofocus upgrade over the A73?
Zero interest in this camera. I'm shooting with the RIII and RIV and don't have any plans to upgrade for the next several years. I just enjoy your reviews haha.
Haha well thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
Three of you blinking in order was it for me. I died a little. 🤣 I dont know why. Great vids bro. Always look forward to your view on stuff.
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Lots of time talking video but not how sloooow the fps in uncompressed raw. It's almost twice as slow as a7iii
I cancelled my order because it is made in CHINA - an absolute NO GO for me!
When you were doing your photo comparisons, were you comparing RAW to RAW, RAW to JPEG, or JPEG to JPEG? (A7iv vs a7iii)
Raw to raw
What camera and what lens were you using for taking this video? Thanks.
Watching this two weeks after i got one. Haven’t found anything I don’t like yet
The only thing that I hate sony camera is because of the Rolling shutter!!!! other than that I am happy
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Well, hello there 🙂
Wow, was searching for it and suddenly it popped up, 8 min after posting hahaha watching!
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@flyenri - nailed it!
One quick question
Does 120fps shoots 8bit or 10bit?
this lens i tried using it as back up for a wedding , It was a job well done, the photos were sharp and good.
How quickly does it switch between photos and video? I am a hybrid shooter for weddings. I need to be able to switch quickly between photos and video throughout the day. The a7iii is slow in this regard, especially if there’s anything in the buffer after firing off multiple photos. The Nikon z6ii almost instantly switches back and forth with no issue, but I want to stick with Sony if possible.
In my experience, it was super fast. WAYYYY faster than the a7iii
What about 4K 50fps. Is there a crop? Or is it just with 60fps.