TJ Lane is Remorseless Teen Evil
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2022
- In the small town of Chardin, Ohio, there was a growing evil. That was TJ Lane, a teenage boy who would one day join the worst of the worst. By why? That's the question, because at sentencing he acted even more vile. And then he escaped prison...
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To this day, I'm pretty sure my dad stopped a school shooter before he could enact what he was going to do. My dad was a teacher, and this kid had been acting weird for a couple days, and my dad pulled him into his classroom. He sat with the kid and offered to help with his homework and just talked to the kid. I even spoke to him when I was there to help my dad move something. The kid told my dad about things happening in his house, and that he had no outlet, but talking to my dad helped. After he graduated, he walked up to my dad and told him that he'd been planning to do something horrible, but that my dad bringing him into his classroom every day helped him. Last I heard, dude was running his own landscaping business.
Hell yeah, that's a really good thing. You and your dad are cool peoples. Sometimes that's all it takes to let somebody know they're not alone. Too often we see something is wrong and just don't take the time to say something. Good for you guys, that's awesome.
Sometimes people need to know someone cares, I guess.
@@DanTheMailman330 Absolutely
Maybe if more teachers like your dad took an extra couple minutes with the kid who doesn’t seem to fit in or just maybe needs to talk, there would be a lot less of these tragedies.
Maybe it would have violated his freedom of speech? Or leave grounds for apeal if he weren’t allowed?
“His cause of death was an overdose but he really died of a broken heart” damn that hit right there
my soul clenched.
I know. That was tough
@@sabre5807It made me cry. Try to imagine his unbearable loss, and now that loss is amplified to those who miss him, as well. So tragic.
Oh, boy. That brought on the waterworks
@@Hollylivengood they are not talking about the shooters dad, it was a victims dad.
Mike, i want you to know that your videos were the first i watched when i woke up in the hospital after a suicide attempt. i’d known how you ended each video, but that first one i watched, hearing your “i love you”, it was like i had only just heard it for the first time. i needed that, so so badly. thank you, Mike. here’s to almost 2 whole months of being alive 🖤
Thanks for sharing that Megan, I hope you're having a good day today! Take one day at a time. You can make it through today ♥
I hope you've found purpose and happiness in your life. There's always someone willing to listen. We may not know you, but we're all humans going through shit, and we care about you and your story. Be well, friend !
Make sure you stick around, the world needs you here, we need you here, Mike needs you here to watch these videos. You matter, so please stay.
Glad you are still here, Megan. Sending a huge hug.
Oh honey, I'm sorry that you've been going through hard times. I've been there, too! For me, my struggles were driven by chronic illness, which I have now gotten to a more manageable & happy place. I get it. Please know that there are so many people who do care! Reach out & keep getting the care you need to become whole again. Xoxox!
The way I grabbed my chest and gasped when he had the AUDACITY to look that parent in the eye and say those words to them! How disgustingly evil
I couldn't hear what he said but I'm sure it was sick.
Mike trying not to smile when he's building up to his joke: "the turd" 😂
Ikr... I was like "Wait for it!"
His glee was almost palpable... cracked me up
He's been waiting his entire RUclips career to use that one.
Plus the instant when he cut away from it was perfect--brilliant editing.
I had to replay it a second time lolol
His whole 'act' in the courtroom is transparent af - you know he was crying himself to sleep every night
Exactly.
All that tiny, little, "hardassing" he was doing... ooooooo scary 👻
I was thinking the EXACT same thing. He had to be freaking terrified.
I hope so. Probably had some 💩 in his pants.
If he had never been sexually abused before, that isn't true anymore after 10 years in prison, that's for sure
Still, that quick little statement to the parents was the wildest thing I've ever heard
Him escaping shows one thing.... he's not happy where he is which makes me very happy indeed.
The one thing that brings me comfort in this case is knowing that he is in a tiny cell somewhere with his every move monitored and controlled, and every day that goes by he is thought of less and less. He matters less and less. He took innocent lives, but they died just that; innocent, and loved, and remembered reverently. And he’s going to spend the rest of his life forgotten and alone.
The fact that you're typing all this out and still seem very disturbed over the whole situation it seems to me like he still got you on his hook a little bit.
Yeah she’s probably a feminist lol
Couldn’t the judge have made him change his shirt? That just seems WAAAAY over the limit of what those family members should be expected to face in court.
Yeah really. The only thing I can think of reaching for straws is the judge didn't want to infringe on his rights, but man, that is so cold and cruel.
@@donmoore7785 It's the judge's courtroom and he could have deemed it as being disruptive, but he didn't. Bad judgment by this judge.
He should of also been kicked out for that shit eating grin he had on his face the whole time.
I think he should have left it. He is a killer. He said horrific things. The stupid hand made t-shirt just glaringly shows he is a moron and a total loser who will never peak in life. It's perfect that we see him in a shirt that says what he is.
Exactly... pathetic that this judge did not MAKE him put his other shirt back on. Smh. 🤦🏼♀️🤬
"I'd also say he ruined his own, but who cares." Standing ovation.
Golden comment! ✌😸
I stood and clapped.
@@Lucky_Chase your names appropriate then
🙄
@@and-zw8ty you're
It's an honest mistake, people, I misread his sentence. Calm down and go touch some grass if my incorrect correction tilts you that hard.
That smirk gets knocked off their pretty young faces quickly when they meet the grown dogs in a real prison.
9:02 'but it's also terrifying that a teacher would have a bullet proof with him at school' -- welcome to 'Merica, land of the 'free'
The dad overdosing just kills my heart. Sad what a monster like that can do in the wake of his crime.
Duh he made him like this. Don't feel sorry for this abuser
@@edyque The dad who OD’d was the father of one of the victims in this shooting. No one feels bad for TJ Lane. Hope you understand better now 👍🏽
@@edyque maybe watch the video before commenting. Duh. One of the victim's father killed himself by overdose on the second anniversary.
@@edyque whoops.....I'm afraid I thought it was the killers dad too. We thought wrong.....
Lol 🤦🏻♀️ at "Duh" comment
He really is evil, the amused smile he wore in court while these poor family's were suffering is awful! Thank for sharing this story and highlighting the heroes of that day while being compassionate to the victims.
Sara So very true, really hard to watch....What a POS he is, hopefully he catches it daily in jail....Poor victims, RIP.
Yes, that was very disturbing.
He is missing something that makes the rest of us human. He's worse than an empty shell.
Thats why these shooters should just be numbered and givin no time of day, maybe even just shoot them as well
It would have taken everything I had if I was a family member not to have leaped over to where TJ Lane was sitting at in the court room I would have slapped that smug look right off of his deviant evil face 💯
@@MrBoxing360 Oh looksie... schools out already, and the silly little try-hard trolls are giving it a goo
I remember reading about this story when he broke out when I was in college. I fancy myself as someone who is against torture, but I think I could find it in my heart to make an exception for this guy. However much he suffers, it’ll never be enough.
No kid ever wants to sit alone ,eat alone in a sea full of laughing children. I think other kid's need to be conscious of going out of their way to show kindness to others and I'm not talking about this in particular just being general because you don't know what a gesture that seemingly small could change in another person.
Unfortunately, kids don’t understand the value of kindness, likely because they’re being bullied in some way.
@@rebeccasimpson7527 you're right and it's about keeping appearances to fit in whatever you are group you are in ..sad really.
No excuse
He could have sat down with the four kids at table who had befriended him. They were nice to him, but he chose to shoot them.
Thats true. My best friend growing up was "the guy who was friends with everyone" and I was the loner reject, a new face in a small school. The moment he decided to sit with me, he made it easier for me to be a better person.
As a high school teacher stories like this frighten me deeply. The fact that these events happen as often as they do is troubling. The fact that schools are place where you have to worry about getting shot is just messed up.
We need better security at school. Take down the "gun free school zone" signs. Let teachers and staff carry guns. Don't announce who has them but let it be know that the staff are armed so any future shooters won't know who will be able to fight back. Celebrities, elites, politicians, banks, jewelry stores and even some convenient stores have armed security. Why are our children the least protected asset?
@@augustseven9243 …You are exactly right. That is how this will end
@@augustseven9243 morons think this will work when trained off9cers seize up and get scared. This is stupid
@@augustseven9243 just by this comment you can tell you're a MAGA or republican. Don't you ppl ever think that teachers have enough on their plates already? Trying to arm them to protect the students is to much when there should be more restrictions on buying guns. If a ton of police in Texas couldn't stop a killer carrying a AR15 what are teachers and staff going to do? You ppls thinking is crazy.
@@augustseven9243 Agree completely. We need to protect our most valued and vulnerable part of society from these monsters.
“They say he died of an OD, but he really died of a broken heart.” 💔 that did me in.
Oh wow this is so neat to see. When I was 17 I was in the same juvenile detention center with him. They had him in an isolation cell most of the time but he was allowed into the main pod at night to watch an hour of tv (we were already in our cells by then). This was in late august - early September 2012. You could tell by looking at him that he was some type of disturbed. I always got an eerie feeling on the rare occasion when we would pass by him in the hallway. so cool to see a video about him on one of my favorite channels!
His eyes are definitely unsettling. I hope you're doing better man.
Cool?
@@eh-i1841 Neat also.
If I were your mother, I would be highly concerned about you...Cool and Neat are the words you choose to describe seeing an update about this murderer on RUclips....go and see a doctor immediately
@@laurasinfield2431 There's nothing wrong with thinking that seeing a story about someone you had a close encounter with is cool, they didn't say the killer was cool, they didn't say the murders were cool, they said seeing someone cover the story and bringing light to the victims is cool. If anything you need to stop being so judgemental.
His whole demeanor in court is his best attempt to protect his ego now that he's got nothing left. At least he's getting raw dogged in a super max now
I fucking lost it when you said the father died of a broken heart. That poor family did nothing to deserve this 😢 My heart goes out to all the families affected
Pure evil it makes me so angry.
I cried too. I imagined what it would be like if it was my own father forced to live with the fact that me or my sister had been murdered, and that just made it even worse. No father, no parent, should... 😞
Why are you laughing at tragedy? Losing it usually means you can't stop laughing
@@DeciNate_ Usually doesn't mean always does it? You're quite a simple person aren't you. Everyone else seemed to understand
Gregory. Same. 😫😢
I can't believe that the judge didn't make him cover that shirt immediately. I am astounded that the judge allowed him to wear that in the court room. That judge had authority and power to stop that display immediately. Very disappointing!
Yes very unprofessional and disgraceful of a judge to let that happen and insulting the poor parents.
Maybe the judge just wanted them to see exactly what kind of person they were dealing with.
If someone wants to act in such a way that he gets the maximum sentence, let him do it. F him.
the judge should have made him look small like the little immature coward he is sitting there like a little girl he needs to grow some balls...
He's a white male in America. I'm not surprised whatsoever.
A teacher having a bulletproof vest on deck is the saddest thing I’ve heard in a long time… but if I was a teacher I’d have one too.
In the USA yes. And perhaps Ukraine, Gaza, and Sudan
I didn't know anything about this case, but I remember the video of the horrible thing he said to the grieving families because it was being circled around the internet for a while. I could hardly believe it was real. All my love and condolences to the families who lost their children, and to the students who were affected by what this monster did
It's weird... I've seen that courtroom scene so many times, and I can't help but see him as just a super lame dude who is trying wayyyy too hard to be edgy. I know that sounds obvious, but considering what he did and the gall to say and represent what he did to the families screams "I am a defiant child and I'm gonna make sure you know this." I can't help but wonder what he thinks of all this now, or how he'll think about it in the future as he "matures."
He’s just another lost emotionally damaged kid from a dysfunctional family and had a lot of anger. Now all he has is to contemplate if losing his freedom was worth it to be seen forever as a monster and the ones he killed as kids killed by a monster. He lost either way
I'm more interested in how he got that way and how we prevent it. We're never gonna solve jack if we just chuck everything up to "evil."
Exactly
well first america needs to dump its gun obsession
It’s the want for attention
@@johndolph131 so how do we solve it? Sadly I think he's going to get respect in prison for this heinous crime. That seems so unfair to the families and those injured in some way by him and those like him.
Sometimes they is no why.
It still amazes me how certain people get arrested so peacefully after committing horrific acts.
I think we know why
Amazed, yet mostly amazed at our society's continuing systemic injustice.
yeah.. they comply with the cops and don't die, what a shock.
That must be news to all of the people who outright complied or made a good faith effort to do so; I'm sure the widow of Daniel Shaver will be happy to know that her husband is actually alive and has been all along. Hell; I'm sure Daniel himself will be ecstatic to learn that his death was nothing more than a hypothetical scenario cooked up by a group of scientists and researchers who wanted to see a person follow a lightning fast barrage of impossible commands screamed at them by trigger happy badge wearing shitbags armed with literal assault rifles and state imbued powers over life and death.
@@smendoza7233 OMG you are implying that it's bc he's white. It's actually bc he didn't resist arrest. The majority of criminals who look different should try it for once.
When you mentioned one of the victims’ father creating a foundation and traveling to try and prevent school shootings like this (or at least reduce it), it made me angry and sad to think about how NOTHING has changed in America since then and in fact, the school shootings have gotten much worse and more frequent.
And you wanna know why shootings of schools and public spaces have become more frequent and not just in the USA? 1. Idolization of school shooters by teens has become more frequent, 2. Lack of guidance and discipline from the parents has become more common, 3. Dysfunctional families have become more common, 4. The fact that gun regulations has increased, gun regulations only threats the safety of the general population which are law-abiding citizens because violent criminals get guns regardless of the legality.
and you complaining about it doesn’t change anything 🤔
@@Fullmetalseagul No, what we need to do is stop making these school shooters famous.
@@av9846 That isn't true. Debate creates change.
Also, his comment had never the intention to "help" the situation, it was a simple complaint, so it was a useless intervention by you anyways.
bruh....
@@Fullmetalseagul She complains about the situation, why can't you see it?
A complaint is nothing wrong.
"...so that would make TJ Lane, Thomas Michael Lane, Thomas Lane the Turd."
*TJ: "Thanks for the original name DAD!!!"*
(cries in teen angst)
Where does the letter J in his name come from?
Your PFP...makes me want to squish the bug on that screen. @@Javra88
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I was shocked to see Mike cover this. I didn’t think anyone would. I went to Chardon High my last two years of high school. I remember seeing the boys around the school, the three that were murdered and the fourth that has permanent paralysis due to being shot. Still can’t believe it happened at my high school. And that it’s been ten years. Rest In Peace, Demetrius, Daniel and Russell. And I hope Nick is doing well. And thank you Mike for covering this.
I grew up a few towns over. I was away at college when this happened. Couldn’t believe it. May they Rest In Peace. And hopefully that piece of shit TJ burns in hell.
So sorry you went through this, I can't even imagine... Did you also know the killer did he go to the same school?
I hope your doing well too blessings to you and I'm so sorry you encounter such a horrible tragedy ❤️
@@dannywilliams6290 "did he go to the same school?" Sounds like 'yes', but that he was (presumably most of the time) at the other campus...
@@TimParker-Chambers oh ok thanks for the response.
Great story teller!! I love your channel. Storytelling is kind of a lost art. I am glad you are helping to bring it back.
Thanks
The face you made when you joyfully got to say the third made all of your videos one amazing thing ever. I love it. Thank you
The way he acted in court was just so atrocious. What already was a horrific incident, that just was the shit icing on the shit cake. Thank you for your tasteful and detailed videos. I honestly don’t have any words, I hope that everyone has received the help that they needed.
i dont believe that was truly how he felt... but when you grow up feeling worthless and unwanted. un noticed. that hurts.. im not excusing ANY of it but, i dont believe anyone is born evil. the society we live in breeds it.
@@trikelyfe6090 watch the Ice man interview with dr stone. Its borh environment and born that way.
@@klondikemom3658 there would be no way to know for sure unless you saw the same person grow up with completely different circumstances, and then see what major choices they make. Which is not possible. So you can’t just say that’s environment and being born that way as a fact for every case.
@@trikelyfe6090 I totally agree-- he was so far removed from any kind of positive attention that he'd been deprived of his whole life that he sought any kind of attention, validated by the disgust of people and the fact that people knew who he was. Horrid behavior, no doubt, but I definitely think nurture and no intervention in his childhood bred what he became.
What exactly did he say? All I heard was "mqsturbate" and "bullets"
The tiny ornery sparkle of happiness in your face when you realized and then said "that means he's TJ Lane the turd".
Thanks Mike we love ya!! 🇺🇲
💜I lived along Lake Erie in Pennsylvania when this occurred and have seen more than a few videos about TJ Lane. However, I had to listen to MIKE! I’m very glad I did since I didn’t remember hearing about his transfer and hadn’t seen photos. Thanks as always Mike!🌈
I never knew the whole story, I appreciate your videos, there's definitely a story to teach my gchild how safety is very important. My prayers goes out to all the families. Gosh, this was heartbreaking.
im a survivor of the 1998 Westside middle school shooting & it's sad that this has just gotten worse since then. every shooting is triggering & I cant imagine how hard it was for the families of the victims having the killer acting the way he did. if hell is real I hope there is a special place there for them. RIP to all the victims & to all the victims of all these mass shootings, they need to be stopped. one was too many
I have never wanted to jump through a screen, and take someone out, so bad as I did, when he gave the finger to the family, of those lives he took. Oh so many will disagree with me, but that pos monster, does not deserve to be breathing. Thank you Mike for covering this tragic story. I truly hope the family can find strength, and the ones taken to soon, are resting in peace.
I believe he’s in a more terrible place and suffering a long life in misery rather then snuffing him out where he doesn’t feel anything.
Same here, if nothing else I wished they could hack off that hand as well as a full life sentence and let that be his lasting memory of the day.
@@coreencasey5109For the most part I agree, for many it's an easy way out shortening their suffering. Let them live everyday with the knowledge and possible later understanding truly of what they have done. Sadly I'm not convinced this POS feels anything though and murderers tend to be respected in prisons so I've heard. He's scum of the highest order.
Public torture for these creatures should be a thing.
@@coreencasey5109 hard to say he's feeling anything at all, as it is.
17:34 Nope! My ass would be in prison for the rest of my life had he taken my son and grinned at me like that! I’d have flown over the tables and found something sharp to end that monster. I am just unbelievably shattered for these families. 😡💔
He is despicable. I would also
You ALWAYS thank us for watching BUT, how often do we thank YOU, for the time and effort that you put into these videos ? I don't see how you can get ANY rest, after researching some of these cases SO, here's to you Mike, THANKS !
I had family in the cafeteria that day, I'll never forget that morning. I'm always torn when different sources tell this story, putting his name in the title gives him the attention he was looking for. But at the same time I understand the desire to tell the story. I think you told it well, very detailed and accurate, and from seemingly a different perspective than the norm. Love the channel, easily one of the best.
He's in a tiny box in a maximum security prison for the rest of his life. He's never gonna know what his name was or wasn't mentioned in..
@@FlameFlickers True!
Prayers for your family
His name is attributed to a horrific mass murder and a creature that doesn't deserve oxygen.
He is not mentioned in a glorious context, to say the least.
Also, I'm assuming in his pigeon hall of a cell he doesnt have internet access. (Sarcasm, you get me.)
I've never heard of this case or his name before. Now that I know of him, I definitely don't think of him as a hero, you know. The value of his name equals that of a microscopic piece of cockroach shit.
I think cases should be referred to by the victims name.. i.e "The Heartless Killer of _______" instead of videos typically being titled with the monsters name. HOWEVER when it comes to RUclipsrs trying to be successful in what they do, I guess cases that involve more than three victims would end up being pretty wordy! Even if the POS is deceased or in prison at time of video being put up and would not personally see it- still rubs me the wrong way!
Teenage killers are the most eerie in my opinion
When your whole life is ahead of you, I cannot compute why people chose to do this
Because they don’t have the life experience to know that things will change, often for the better. Teens have the same emotions everyone does, and they are heightened in your teens. It’s really sad when we lose them before they can really know. I have a 14 year old and we’ve been through some heavy stuff already. Luckily she has two parents and an extended family there to support and get her the help we all needed, us as parents, as well as her. It breaks my heart when stuff like this happens 💔
@@SparkimusPrime thank you for sharing your perspective 🙏🏼
Their brain isn't fully developed and they don't consider the long term consequences or reality of their decision. That's my best guess.
They feel at that point in life they have nothing to lose.
It is disturbing and sad.
I'm glad the only reason I remember this is Coach Hall's heroic story. I didn't even remember TJ's name or courtroom antics, and in a couple of hours, I'm sure I'll forget it again. But I'll always remember Coach Hall, much like Coach Dave Sanders.
This happened in my hometown, it’s where I grew up and most of my family still live and work. I was not surprised when this happened… the high school is very “cliquey” and people who are a bit off, different, etc are treated horribly by the students and the faculty too. The bullying is out of control. I have too many stories about it… but that’s definitely not an excuse for TJ, if he was experiencing that kind of treatment, which I haven’t heard. For the most part, the teachers are pretty great and there’s plenty of opportunities to thrive and learn; the art teachers were always my favorite. The town of Chardon is a great little place and I love going home to visit. This incident really tore the town up but also brought people closer together. Everybody knows each other, and although it’s grown into a busy little city, it still has the small town feel. The incident is really sad, overall and it changed Chardon and Geauga County forever (It’s pronounced Gee-aww-guh, by the way). Thanks for covering it- you did a great job and did Chardonites proud. 😇
That's the midwest for ya sadly. I was a weird kid in North Dakota and it was a blessing I was able to move out before graduation. I'm in Minnesota now and there's definitely nice little pockets of open minded people where I don't feel alone anymore. I honestly really feel for any kid who doesn't fit in within these smaller towns, of course nothing excuses a horrific act like this. I feel like in some of these horrid stories, you at least feel a tiny ounce of pity seeing how life screwed these evil kids over, but when he was given a chance at genuine friendship with the very people he took out, he definitely deserves no remorse. I *wish* I had a group of nice guys attempt to include me in their day and be my friend. It's so upsetting. Some just don't want help and don't want to contribute anything good to the world.
I like your name
"SS 1488" , wow, the nazis are getting quite explicit (google it folks). Your town seems to have a thing for producing wastes of oxygen, I hope you end up with TJ
@@halted3578 a nazi with an anime profile picture, color me shocked
@@halted3578 thanks 😉
I AM SO GLAD YOU COVERED THIS!!! This snapshot of him wearing that t-shirt and giving the finger comes up in my feed all the time but just as a short "whacky things that happened in courtrooms" I never knew the whole story.... You're the best, Mike!
My heart sank when he said that in court.
How unimaginably painful for these poor families.
What did he say?
I couldn’t even understand what he said
I too have no idea what he said. ❓❓❓
@@d.vengeance1897 Comment got deleted. Pretty sure he says something like “The same who pulled the trigger and killed your son now masturbates to the memory, love you”. What a cretin.
@@d.vengeance1897 "This hand that pulled the trigger that killed your sons now masturbates to the memory. F--- all of you,"
Watching these children recount their happy memories of fellow classmates killed by another classmate is heartbreaking. Truly awful what a waste of life, the killer really was just one sad bastard
Love your show. Particularly since you don't use too much stock footage. Many others do. :-) D.A., NYC
This happened close to my home. This case still has an affect on the town. TJ is a complete waste of oxygen. Great story telling as always! Thanks!!
I don't know you people are so mean to TJ. Sure he never did the RV trip, but is that really cause for such vitriolic--oh wait, wrong TJ....
*effect
you never really think it could happen to you, or your town... until one day 😕
@@danieljliverslxxxix1164 which TJ are you talking about then?
@@shauncasey8295 luckily only the most boring people allow their hometowns to be any large part of their identity/personality
Much respect to Bill Fisher who was willing to give an interview while riding his bike. He must be a very busy man.
Bingo night at the VA
that made my day hahaha
OMG, I missed that as I was not looking at the screen at that point. Saw this comment and had to go back and watch!!! Outstanding!
😹😹😹😹
lost my shit at that. the fact they moved along with him had me dying. small town midwest at its finest
Those poor parents, talk about being revictimized...to have your child's murderer smirk during your impact statement and be so vile in the courtroom 😢😠 God bless the families, what a heartbreaking case.
I honestly feel like in extremely rare cases torture should be a legitimate legal punishment.
@@RighteousRage Or the firing squad.
@@RighteousRage Agreed. With a medical team on standby to make sure they never die.
We can always handle your depth, Mikey. Loooove your humour and accents, please never stop being you. Much ❤️ from Wasaga Beach, Ontario, 🇨🇦
RIP to the victims and hope all those affected by this awful tragedy are doing better these days. Thanks for the video & have a great weekend!
The teacher having a bullet proof vest in the classroom with them says it all really...everything that is wrong there
Prepped and ready to be a hero.
Oh man great job Mike! 👏 the book reviews were hilarious 😂
Love your commentary !!!
In this episode, Mikes says “tree (3),” “turty (30),” and “turd (3rd)” six times.
Even though I know he wasn’t, I feel like Mike was staring into my soul when he said “Thomas Michael Lane… the turd.”
"Snipers and mines." 😂 You always find a way to make me laugh no matter how sad the story
I am honestly so glad I discovered your channel recently. Considering how long I've been hooked on true crime, it's so wonderful for me to find a channel that so completely hits all the criteria I like to see in true crime content:
Respect for the victims and their families, telling their stories with dignity and care (and an honest way, I don't like the overly emotional/sycophantic way some others do it). Showing the killers for the pathetic little shites they are. Sticking to the facts. And - the first channel I've found that ticks all the previous boxes yet does this - also being very funny along the way.
So, keep it up Mike. You've found a new loyal subscriber in me and I'm here for the long haul. Stay safe, love ya! 😉
Imagine if during his escape, he ran into one of the victims' family. That would have been Christmas come early for that family member, I reckon.
Love your channel Mike. Never miss a video. I went to The Lake Academy with this absolute waste of human life. Never talked to anyone, I even tried to be nice to him a couple times. After he broke out of prison I was interviewed on chardon square by several news outlets after I closed up at my job. I've been wishing you would cover this one for a while. Thanks Mike! Hope you're well. -HAP
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naw this is about that person not u hope feeling better should I start packing
@@crystalrosas6052 what?
what was he like? can you spare details? I'm very curious
@@samanthagoldsmith3809 quiet, average, reserved. Tad bit of a dark humor. There was a bad fight once (lake academy being a school for children with IEP's, most of them for fighting/truancy) and I remember him watching from his chair, leaning in to get a better look and chuckling, smiling. Only time i remember seeing him smile. He wasn't intimidating physically or otherwise. Looking back I never would have thought he could have done something so heinous.
I don't care that he's a teen- when you take another person's life intentionally, let alone several, you still know what you're doing, you deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
They deserve to die immediately regardless of age
The death penalty would be too easy on him.
Agreed but I 100% feel a teenager's mind is not developed enough and should not be given life.
@@laurarudolph7451 when I was a teen, I knew right from wrong, my teen children know right from wrong. Stop making excuses for people like him, they know what they are doing.
@@laurarudolph7451 I think that's not an unreasonable excuse for second degree. But first degree he planned out. While he might not fully grasp the consequences on his life, he did understand the consequences of life and death.
I agree with not holding teens as accountable for crimes where the consequences are indirect, but a teen absolutely understands the direct consequences of shooting a person.
"G aug a" county. Thanks for showing the depraved nature of Lane. I live about 30 miles south and this was stunning for it's senselessness.
I was so touched by this video...Chardon, Ohio is one of the nicest, most beautiful towns, ever. I have friends nearby here and i have fallen in love with the area...so sorry that they had to deal with this tragedy.
The fact he has to spend every waking hour in a maximum security prison, if he wasn't insane then he probably is now. That type of prison is no joke, just you 4 walls of concrete and nothing but your mind almost 24/7.
All the people given PTSD is no joke.
It ruins so many lives so i hope they got the help they needed.
I have PTSD. It's a daily struggle. My heart goes out to everyone whose lives this worthless human pestilence impacted.
@@WobblesandBean Same, had a huge breakdown yesterday as trying to fix my life an it fights so hard against it that i disassociated, shits rought.... Hope you have found away to with it!
I also have PTSD, and tend to think of it as a chronic condition. It may get better, but tends to linger. Maybe it can get to a point where it's at least manageable for these folks.
@@micheller6804 After the years of it ruining my life, tbh its unbeatable.
You just cant win.
@@serenity8839 It can be incredibly difficult to deal with. Sorry you are struggling so much. To have your sense of safety undermined in such a profound way can interfere with nearly every aspect of your life. I have been taking medical marijuana for about a year, and its one of the few things that provides relief.
The man shown giving an interview about a murder trial WHILE ACTIVELY riding a bike is baffling to me 😭
Right? That really threw me off.
First time listener, in literally 2 minutes, I know this is a serious topic, but you have cracked me up so many times. Keep it up.
Ah, yes, now I remember this one with what he displayed in court. Judge should NOT have allowed that at all.
Maybe the judge allowed it to have the best excuse to give him a harsher sentence.
I have to guess that the judge was not expecting that.
As part of regular procedure the defendant probably has the right to say something at that point.
As Mike noted most defendants are going to say nothing, claim innocence or say they are sorry.
I’m from Australia and I can never understand what it’s like to go to school with the thought in the back of your mind that someone may just start shooting at anytime. It absolutely blows my mind
It absolutely boggles my mind. I have a high schooler and I want to homeschool or online school her.
Yeah, we here in America don’t care about the sanctity of life, and yet we claim we do. The Hypocrisy is overwhelming. They just keep sending “thoughts and prayers,” as if that really does any good.
this is true for people who live in any other country except america. school shootings does happen sometimes. in fact, here in the philippines, a recent shooting happened during a graduation ceremony. but the rate of school shootings in the us and the lack of any action to prevent it in the future is just so incomprehensible
Fr! Iam from Europe and the thought is terrifying... I don't understand why they don't secure the school more. Put a trained cop or anyone at the entrance with a locked door and only enter anyone who is allowed
The only good thing Prime Minister John Howard did was the Gun Buy Back scheme
9:02
TC: “Though the thought of a teacher having a bullet proof vest on him while he is at school is disturbing as well.”
Me: “Welcome to America.”
log the jam damnit
I may be an American, but I grew up in Europe. Went to school there and lived there all the way up to my early 20s. So I had no idea of how school was in the US. Then seeing the news and hearing about school shootings and all, I found out that schools have metal detectors and bags are searched. This is insane. It's like schools are war zones. There are some fighting for teachers to carry guns in classrooms. Hearing that there are bullet proof vests laying around handy, is new, but doesn't surprise me one bit. That's when you know that we have failed as a society. The gun lobby and the 40% of deplorables we have in this country have made things unfixable. The culture runs too deep at this point.
Thank you for covering this story. I'm from Cleveland, Ohio & just the mention of Chardon evokes such sorrow, just as Columbine, Sandy Hook, Parkland, Uvalde, etc. When will this madness end? What is your take of the rise of school shootings as well as gun violence in the States? Would you consider a video on that?
BTW...the county Geauga sounds like gee AW guh
Oh this freaking guy. He was such a prick. His courtroom antics were vile!
And very rehearsed.
Well, he can act tough in the courtroom, but once he gets to prison…I’m reminded of Denzel Washington’s words in Training Day: “We’ve got room for you at the Booty House. You ever been to the Booty House? Big boys make you grab your ankles, man.”
So disrespectful to all the family members. Wow wow. He certainly doesn’t ever need to be out and about as he is very dangerous
I was hoping a prisoner would wipe that smirk off his face! I hope he drops his soap often!
I couldn’t make out what he said can someone tell me??
You narrate these tragedies with such empathy for the victims. And rightly give the perpetrator the "heave ho" they deserve.
Thank you so much Mike!
I actually thought the narration was poor, didn't watch for very long. Maybe I'll go back and try again. Why did he think it was strange happening in Ohio?
Actually he constantly cracks on people, but he does throw a bone out to types like you and it seems to work.
@@millardf452 Like I said, I'll give it another look, but he over uses the word "like".
@@marianparoo1544 That person was very clearly replying to the original poster.
@@millardf452 makes no sense but go off I guess
Love the Turd! You're the BEST!
I Love ya!
Just proves, sadly again, how abusing a child can possibly, and most likely, lead to horrific consequences and pain for many.
I lived about 45 minutes away in Ashtabula County when this happened, and the football coach who charged at the shooter, Coach Hall, ended being the football coach at my highschool after he left Chardon High. Coach Hall always spoke about how he didn't think of himself for even a second, his only focus was on saving the kids and getting the shooter down.
I cannot imagine my high school teacher having a bulletproof vest ready to go during class... Or the actual thought of risking a gun crime in school, the USA is supposedly the dream country but I'm not so sure tbh
Horrible.
Mike, you're so good with these; keep it up! 👍
Omg, Mike, you are killin me with the way you tell a story. Classic. LMAO!!!
I can’t believe it’s been 10 years. I remember when it happened. All of my teachers were so scared for all of us and I remember them reassuring us that we’re all okay and it didn’t happen to us. But it happened SO close to us and it was…. Scary. That’s all I can say. This guy can burn in hell forever.
Mike: "I guess he ruined his own life, but who really cares?"
Me: Exactly. TJ is a waste of oxygen. I feel zero sympathy, pity, or empathy for that self-centered monster.
Could you like, shut up
But you're probably very okay with killing babies
Perhaps not having empathy for these humans who walk horrendous paths is the exact reason many tend to do so . Not directly but humans have a lot to do with how these folks turn out . That’s a big conversation to have though for a RUclips comment section. Cheers mate , empathizing doesn’t mean you’d do the things he did or be okay with them btw !
Did you really just quote him and then caption your own inner dialogue instead of just writing your opinion as a statement?? 🤔
What the frig is RUclips doing to peoples brains?? 🤦🏻♂️
ur no better stay strong yes he's a mentally ill pos
@14:51 “I have a comment about this case, but won’t stop riding my bike. Try to keep up.”
Nice haircut, my man. GIVE THIS MAN A KEY TO OHIO
I remember this story but the thing I always appreciate about your channel is you don’t regurgitate the same stories putting in research that no one else does.
I love you Mike 😘💗
You always make my Friday a little brighter!☀️☀️
"He thought he was hot but, you know he was just regular.."😆🤣😂
What new research did 'That Chapter' do? There's nothing new in this video that hasn't already been mentioned in every other report of this notorious crime.
@@millardf452 do you just go from video to video to whine and cry. Fucking sad
@@glamdolly30 Perhaps that's because there's nothing else to find.
Went to high school at West Geauga when this happened, about 10 minutes down the road from Chardon High. I'll never forget this tragedy. Thanks for covering it
Wow. So informative.
31 hundred kids in a school similar to how large prisons are impossible to run I found a problem already.
that setup for the turd joke got a like out of me 😁 hah, good shit!
"He was a nice guy. Kinda quiet. Kept to himself, mostly."
Said every acquaintance of every serial killer ever...
To be fair, this clown was not a serial killer and never had the intelligence or (seemingly) intent to be one.
John Wayne Gacey was outgoing. lol
"Said every acquaintance of every serial killer ever..."
To be fair, serial killing isn't an occupation, or even a full-time hobby, they Still need to do 'other stuff', like get groceries, take out the trash etc, and being on bad terms with one's neighbours, while only a mild aggravation for the average person, to a serial killer, that's probably the fastest way to get themselves reported to the police/SWATed (even if only maliciously) by a neighbour who may only be trying to inconvenience them, rather than knowing that they're reporting a serial killer 😉 It's like the proverb says; it costs nothing to be polite... And, if those other people aren't potential targets, no reason for the serial killer to be off with them. Take Ted Bundy, for example, an extremely charming individual, I dare say, someone who was probably quite pleasant and interesting to talk to (he was rather well-read) Someone like Dahmer, on the other hand, well, he *did* have friends in school, but I'd not want to be in his company, in the same way, I would've found Bundy very interesting 👍👍👍👍
Everyone says it about me but I turned out okay
@@truth4004 your profile name says it all
"American schools start so early." Gawd, FINALLY someone said it!!
In the UK schools start roughly around 8.45-8.55 and finish around 3- 3.35 depending on childs age/school. I’m still screaming up the stairs at 7.30 telling them to get out of bed!
@@amandacarroll7034 yo i had to get up at 5:30 every weekday just to catch the school bus in the usa it suuuucked. No idea how i did it, standing out there in the cold and dark as a little kid. It's scary as an adult.
As much as I want to listen to or watch every one of your videos, I can't stomach this one. I live in N.E ohio just a few cities away from Chardon Ohio and I remember this like it was yesterday.
I don't think he realized the impact of what he did in court that day. But now he'll live with it if he ever does.
I had a teacher once tell me: "Be careful how you perceive the world, it is that way." It's something that has stuck with me for years. I wonder if even though "bullying" was never confirmed by anyone else, TJ may have perceived it himself. I'm obviously not defending what happened in any way, but sometimes these things make me think about what must have been going through someone's head when they just start shooting.
I think it's certainly worth understanding, and "empathizing" with young people who do terrible things like this for the sake of prevention. I put empathizing in quotes because I can't think of another word for what I mean. I guess putting yourself in their skin as much as that is possible, and attempting to learn their motives so that you can spot others that are having similar feelings and distorted destructive views of reality. I really don't think it's constructive to shrug and say "well he was just an evil bastard", and go on with life, being shocked all over again when another angry young man gets ahold of a gun and takes revenge on the world.
That quote you gave is really good. I look back at my own life, and I remember how incredibly varied my perception of reality has been at different times. Usually I've grown in or out of them with the passage of time, and some are very disturbing to recall and were certainly overly cynical and distorted. I wonder if I had a friend or mentor at the time that could pick up on them, if they could have explained people to me in a way that would have saved me a lot of unnecessary sideways paths. At least I hope that is possible for some of these young people.
I do truly think he targeted that group for a reason. A reason you or me will never understand. I try to teach my kids to be nice to everyone always .
I bet that the bullying would have been confirmed, if anyone had bothered to ask. I suspect no one dug too deep, because they wouldn't want people sympathizing with TJ. But, I will say this, as a repeat of what I wrote above in my own comment: While he *somewhat* fits the profile of 'troubled loner', which seems prevalent with school shooters, one of the girls interviewed (and shown here) did speak positively about him, so he clearly wasn't Completely without friends. Also, and I think this is the most telling thing: Unlike the vast majority of school shooters who simply start shooting at random (either in their own class rooms or going into another) TJ specifically went up to the specific kids who were 'rumored' to be bullying him. It was by no means random, but entirely deliberate on his part. If he simply 'wanted to kill', he could've shot literally Anyone in the cafeteria, and got the kill he wanted. But he didn't. He went up to the people specifically rumored to have been bullying him. To me, that suggests that they were (or he at least had some other kind of beef with them specifically, to specifically shoot Them, rather than simply shooting whoever was nearest to him... 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂ That's not intented as a justification, but an observation...
@@TimParker-Chambers Yes, and I don't recall if anyone at that lunch table survived, but I imagine they would be hesitant to honestly say whether anyone in the group had bullied him. And based on his behavior in court, he seems to have greatly disliked his victims. And this is observation, not justification on my part as well. Of course nothing justifies what he did.
I live near his "prison home", and I was scared to death when he escaped. Never seen such a cold and evil person.
damn, must have been scary yea!
I woulda been nervous as hell too! Thank God he's a total moron and got caught immediately and all yall stayed safe and unharmed 🙏🏻
Never seen such a cold and evil person? You must not watch a lot of true crime... There's so many psychos out there that have done far more gruesome things.
That was the opportunity to go find him and deliver some real justice.
@@saintlynnie4037 Just because someone has committed a more gruesome crime does not make them more cold than the pit of nothing that is TJ Lane.
Teacher having a bulletproof vest, that’s America for ya! Bulletproof backpacks are making a killing here.
I truly hate when people fake mental illness and abuse after doing horrific things like this.
This is what makes people scared of those of us who have mental illness or a history of abuse. It makes people think that we are violent, unstable and volatile by nature and makes people far less likely to seek help when they need it emotionally due to the stigma.
I have c-ptsd from surviving kidnapping, rape and attempted murder along with going through 2 years of testifying in court after my attacker plead not guilty. I already had severe depression and anxiety before that day.
Coincidentally, my attack occurred 6 weeks after the Chardon high school shooting. I was living in an apartment building just for students that housed roughly 400 people. I was absolutely shunned after people started gossiping about my attack.
Management of the building actually let the details of my attack be known to their employees who told residents. After TJ Lane said that he was the victim of abuse and heard voices, people started assuming that I would too after what had happened to me.
I spent the next 3 years living in that building and for most of it, people spoke about me within earshot with absolutely no shame. Every new resident would be warned not to associate with me because I was ‘crazy’.
Bearing in mind, the only reason anyone had to call me crazy was because someone had kidnapped, raped and tried to kill me.
I studied full time and got my degree while working 30 hours a week at a job I loved to keep busy.
Monsters like TJ Lane prevent people like the girl I was from reporting what happened to them. They turn abuse and mental illness into something that others fear.
It's levels to mental illness. No experience negates the next and people should be afraid of folks with unchecked/undiagnosed mental illness bc they do things like this...
@@kosmicinclinations3333
No. They. ALL don't.
Most of the world's mental illness is undiagnosed.
I’m happy that he tried to escape, got recaptured and in is in a more secure prison. Him trying trying to escape shows he’s suffering in incarceration for what he did. If only he was able to get the death penalty.
Id rather him be in a medium security prison so other inmates can get their hands on him.Split his wig a few times.
yes most of these jails n Illinois r not possible to escape from
No death penalty. They need to dig their own hole and hang em at city Hall. Why should we care for em only for the FBI to evaluate these types of ppl? Well never understand why ppl do crazy ass horrendous crimes like this. But if we know they committed such crime just end em.
I think the death penalty is an easy way out for them so I'm against it for that reason.
@@ronjames4151 I agree but at the same time I don’t want to pay my tax dollars to the scum of the earth. There’s plenty of children that need feeding before prisoners that did terrible things
Funny way to interview a citizen while he rides his bike. 😂 Thankfully he didn't run into a pole.
These videos brings me back to two winters ago. I used to watch them walking to work on freezing mornings. Now I have a car :)
My cousin had just graduated and knew the kids who were shot. Funerals were attended. It was very sad as it would be. There are still Hilltopper Strong signs all over. Most of my family lives in Chardon, in the Village, Aquila where one of the boys were from. It's a very snowy place. They get feet of snow when we, further north, would get inches. It's a more expensive place to live. Crazy something like this would happen there. If it can happen here it can happen anywhere. And obviously he did not care. 😞