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Shawna Nelson Became Obsessed with a Cop
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2022
- Heather Garraus was married to Ignacio Garraus in the city of Greeley, CO. After troubles in the marriage, Ig started a relationship with a dispatcher, Shawna Nelson. Shawna Nelson had issues, with would eventually lead to a car park, Halloween mask, and a couple of frame jobs.
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FYI for anyone who needs to hear this…. Another person’s spouse is NEVER the love of your life.
You're telling me the grass is NOT greener on the other side?!
@@honigdachs. - Nope! It’s green where you water it!
@@MisplacedTexan I actually quite like that idiom, makes a lot of sense.
Yeah... don't step up in that mess!
Cheating is never the answer. And, if you truly feel that someone is the love of your life, you shouldn't have to trap them with threats and ultimatums. Either it's mutual or it's not. If not, then for your own sanity, just let them go. And if you or the other person are already in a relationship, then get out of it before pursuing yet another relationship. It ALWAYS ends badly!
I've been married for over 20 years, and I can't imagine ever cheating. Like the OP said, the grass is greenest wherever it's being watered, so take care of the relationship you have. We all have flaws, and you can't expect a new relationship to be flawless, so nurture what you do have, or expect the same amount of problems with whatever new flame you decide to pick up.
*End soapbox speech*
“Yes! It’s that stupid bitch!” ugh, the mix of anger and despair in that realization
As if they wouldn't be able to tell from her "running" away. I'm sure that was a sight to see.
I don’t know why but the thing that struck me as saddest is Victoria. Her mom was killed by her dad’s mistress, and then she ends up dying in a car crash. What a short and tumultuous life she had.
The cop who took the gun from the perpetrator's car was an accessory after the fact, a charge that would send an ordinary citizen to prison for at least five years. His charges get dropped and he gets to retire with a full pension. There is more than one tier of "justice" in our country.
So the poor womans parents both died
She was grief stricken and depressed
*HER* husband was having an affair
But she was the one bullied and harassed and eventually murdered being absolutely innocent and having no knowledge of what was going on ... Poor Heather.
Hit
Bullied
just goes to show that karma isnt real XD
how incredibly sad... the poor woman loses her parents and gets no support from her husband only to have him cheat on her with the woman who will murder her. rest in peace heather. you deserved better.
Yes, it’s so sad. Poor Heather. The trauma of losing one parent is huge, and losing both so close together, I couldn’t imagine the pain.
After 1983 she was free to leave. 1983 was when we were afforded full equal rights in the USA,, same as men. I feel bad for those who cannot help themselves, not women with no self esteem who are afraid of discomfort.
@@hillarybillary21 so you stopped feeling bad for women after 1983 we got it. you can leave now
Not what she put her husband and kids through selfishly but again typical useless woman not taking accountability
I hope her daughter is ok
People in the comments are saying "Ignacio will feel guilt" & "Ignacio will be haunted for the rest of his life." I doubt it.
He strikes me as a narcissist. He doesn't hold himself responsible AT ALL. He's probably more flattered than anything & I'm sure he moved on almost immediately & never looked back. Sad but true..
Talking about that tattoo like he wasn't geeked she got it
His answer sounded forced. @@mushmouf1400
True
The audacity she has to say to heather “you ruined my life” when SHE was the one who ruined heather’s by having an affair with her husband. Nobody asked Shawna to cheat on her own husband Lmao, she is the absolute farthest thing from a victim in this situation- even without accounting for the murder.
I know right? Victim blaming is page one of the narcissists handbook.
Not only did she ruin Heather's life, but she also TOOK Heather's life!
Because the husband had nothing to do with it, of course.
that's narcissism and psychopathy 101, it's always the other party's fault
Don’t forget that nasty husband in all of this mess ! But yes! Shawna- hands down gross and waaaaaay over confident individual.
And for anyone who is curious, Victoria died in a car accident in which she was driving and she lost control of the car, slamming into a tree. She was 17 yrs old.
That sucks
Damn. Poor baby. My heart goes out to the family. 🙏🏻
How sad.. Horrible story :-/
Now that is truly sad, the only silver lining is that her mom was waiting for her, when Victoria passed. Thank you for sharing that info, I followed this case , was unaware of Victoria's passing. With Love from Washington State 💚🌲
Omg that family has the worst luck… My heart goes out! Wow! No words
The nerve of that woman to say to Heather, right before murdering her, “You ruined my life.” GIRL YOU WERE THE ONE SCREWING HER HUSBAND! You had a BABY with HER HUSBAND! YOU TATTOOED HIS NAME ON YOUR BODY! Aside from the text messages, how is she even gonna try and say she didn’t do all of it and murder Heather? That woman is a monster. And the added audacity to lie and say she had a sexual relationship with her best friend because she wouldn’t lie for her. Disgusting people; poor Heather and her daughter Victoria, may they both rest together.
The husband ruined both of their lives
She's a subhuman of the lowest category. I hope she gets her just deserts in prison but my heart always goes out to the children of the people involved. The nincompoop of a husband and his wench were better suited for each other. Heather seemed too beautiful and decent to be with someone like that!
@@rastamuff1 He lost everything because of his selfishness; I hope he's miserable forever.
Looovve your handle LOL
@charles gee his wife was so beautiful too. Like wtf?!...Shawna looks like a trucker.
There's something about watching Shawna just flatly lie in court over and over that really gets under my skin. Not only is she twisted enough to do what she did, but she clearly believes she was in the right. Also imagine being her husband and ruining your life and career to help your wife murder another woman because she married the man your wife is in love with.
Reminds me of another recent court case involving a narcissistic compulsive liar... although that situation didn't end in murder I have no doubt it very well could have because she approached the subject with her freeloading friends 😔
I love this channel! I worked with Shawna Nelson as a dispatcher for Weld County and I was even a friend of hers outside of work for awhile (I had NO CLUE she was batshit crazy until this happened) I was questioned by detectives back in 2006 after this murder occurred and thankfully never had to testify as I hadn’t spoken to Shawna for over a year prior to this horrendous act. That Chapter retold this incident SPOT ON, all the way down to Shawna’s husband Ken saying verbatim that he and Shawna could get back together and he would raise Ig’s baby as his own. This happened so many years ago and it’s still hard for me to wrap my head around. Heather was innocent In this whole thing and did nothing but love her husband, she never deserved any of this!
Hey, while you were working with her did she ever seem off? Like did she ever say something’s that would throw you off?
@@Dchong625 Duh....
@@Dchong625 she did say she didn’t know she was a whack job when she hung out with her before this happened
No way! I worked with Shawna as a dispatcher as well!
my butt stinks
Lol! “Why the underwear?” That comment made me truly laugh a lot! You are so cute! Please keep ‘‘em coming, Mike! You’re the best?
Same here socks n underwear 🤢
It actually angers me that Michelle knew Shauna was going to murder Heather, and chose to do nothing. I really hate cases like this where someone clearly knows someone is going to die, and they choose to say nothing, they choose not to save that persons life, they choose silence, and that is just utterly despicable.
Sure shows what kind of person she is. They were two peas in a pod. I can't imagine knowing someone is going to be murdered and doing nothing to stop it.
Michelle joined Shawna in taunting and harassing Heather on multiple occasions before the murder. She helped Shawna plan the murder. Michelle was a mean, nasty person who deserved far more jail time than she got.
I can’t help but believe that Shawna really was in a relationship with Michelle. I know she lied about so much, but I can’t even imagine having that kind of loyalty to someone who was just your friend.
But she's kinda pretty
@FugginRambo If there is anything to learn is that looks can be deceiving. The reason why so many get away with a lot.
"Do you know who did it?"
"It was that stupid bitch!"
I love that so much.
The husband is also to blame because he could have prevented all of this had he not been such a coward and been honest. We have no idea what he was telling Shawna when no one was around. While Shawna is to blame for her cold and menacing act, some of the blame (a lot) lies with Ignacio. Poor Heather, she deserved a life much better than this! My heart breaks for her!!
Damn loses her parents back to back to disease then gets killed, leaves behind a child who then dies in an accident?! Geez. Prayers is all I can say.
Awful.
So sad that entire line just gone... and the crazy people who killed and betrayed her are still walking about
The only good thing is that, if one believes in an afterlife, they can believe that Heather, her daughter, and her parents have all been reunited on the other side.
i was looking for this comment. So awful
@@kingayy9267 How about when Ig dies? Does his daughter take time out to go reunite with him as well? Does heaven have shared custody arrangements? So many questions :)
Moral of the story: guys, if you are ever tempted to do the boogaloo with someone other than your wife, either end the marriage first, or otherwise keep big boy in his cage. Cheating never ends well for anybody, most of all it seems for those who least deserve the consequences. RIP Heather and Victoria, I hope that they are reunited and blissfully happy wherever they are.
or ask permission.
Okpo pm look lollll look look
Kk lo
what happened to victoria
@@randiphoenix1326 car wreck in 2015
So sad that Heather's daughter also passed away. I can't ever understand why people think murder is an 'easier' way out than divorce.
Lets not forget Ignacio's role and responsibility in this
Ok but cheating and murder are two waaayyyy different things lol
@@juliangonzales1169 to women, he's just as guilty as she is.
He cheated on her and then his damn mistress killed her, he absolutely ruined her life
My thoughts, exactly!👍
His role is that of a dirtbag, his criminal responsibility is exactly zero.
That totally reminded me of Stephanie Lazarus, a Los Angeles police officer, who killed her ex boyfriend’s wife Sherri Rasmussen! Right down to the interrogation, where they both acted like they had no clue.
Yes, both were terrible over-actors lol
So, is nobody going to bring up the fact that Ken removed the murder weapon from the car in order to try and protect Shawna, and not only did any charges brought against him get thrown out, but he actually got to retire from the police force?
That made me so angry that all charges were dropped for him, and got to retire, like what the hell??
_AND_ he dumbly did that when she was wearing all of his clothes to try to frame him for the murder, so that he would get arrested and she would get all of his assets and be free to get back together with Ignacio. What a pathetic simp!
Cops are above the law.
Idk if he was a dirty cop, but certainly an idiotic one. He's doing all that risky business for her while she's in the middle actively trying to frame him. This must be some kind of record.. the cuck heard 'round the world
Thinking the exact same thing!
Wow, Ken removing the murder weapon from Shauna's car, then being allowed to retire from the PD. Just wow. Should've been brought up on charges and been imprisoned. Cops are held to a higher standard of conduct, and he goes and does this. Just wow.
This reminds me of the Stephanie Lazarus case, the female cop who killed her ex-lover's wife. Particularly the interview, with both women somehow having far worse acting skills than people with NO law enforcement background. Both of them thought they could be convincing with the whole "Oh I understand, you have to do your job" thing, to their coworker interviewing them, but from there just utterly FAILED at acting confused and shocked that anyone could think they did it. I don't think Lazarus tried the 'poor helpless little woman' thing with sobbing like this chick (she was more of a tomboy so she went more 'amused at the ridiculousness of all this' route that a dude would go). But both times, I'm watching and thinking, even with zero background information I would know this person is lying.
Yeah, but only Lazaurus pulled a face like a chimpanzee....it's true, watch the interview.😂
@@SeanTR420 it does matter what you know
Oh yeah, that interview was crazy to say the least. Acting like she can't remember pertinent details while recalling the most mundane bull crap with impeccable accuracy
@@itsmealanaa Of course it matters. If an interview makes it clear to police that a suspect did it, that wouldn't be enough to convict them but it would be enough to stop wasting resources on other leads and focus it all on getting evidence on this one. Mind you I"m talking only if they KNOW from the interview, and sure they have gotten it wrong before.
Yeah, it matters what you know. Police can bluff to try to get a confession, but if they guess wrong they ruin all their credibility and probably prompt the witness to get an attorney if they sense they're being tricked or lied to.
Shawna, as a police dispatcher, had to have some knowledge of how a murder investigation works. How incredibly stupid to think she could pull this off. Rest in peace Heather 🙏
I just retired from almost 16 yrs of law enforcement dispatching and no...we have not many clues inside the investigation process...we work in windowless radio facilities and the officer/deputies only show up once in a blue moon because they keep us as separate as they possibly can..some dispatchers (mainly women) hang out with the officers/deputies but talking about work is the last thing they do...
Also Shawna being married to a cop doesn't mean anything either as they are reluctant to talk about work when they get home...they are mostly coming home to get drunk or bang or both then work another job for extra pay..and sometimes when they're on their beat they have several side clicks so they really don't talk about work
narcissist always make exceptions for themselves
Again, I wish there was a live onscreen toxicology report for all characters onscreen. Tweedle D and Tweedle double D must have been coked out of their minds right? Is this cocaine? Alcohol and speed? Xanax, Ritalin and ambien? I LOVE THIS CHANNEL. but, having lived with cops (sooooooo many times, idk why) almost all cases involve drugs. So all these stories and channels like this: they all leave out some very important things that we could all, that so many people need to learn from
@@Novakane78 that might be your center but my center is complete opposite. Disapatchers and officers are pretty close, obviously some don't socialize much but majority do. And we definitely don't have a windowless radio room. We have one wall of just windows with a balcony that we go out on regularly.
@@jlw839 I've worked at 2 different centers and visited 7 other agencies...they all fit the criteria I put forth...I was playing the odds lol
Wow. She’s incredibly manipulative. Asking the cop to hold her hand and then hugging him really inappropriately. Yikes! 😱
I can't believe he actually acquiesced to her hug as well.
@@MDCxThePG to fool her to make her feel like she was in a safe zone. Everyone knew she was the killer
Whilst wearing Ken's underwear!
@@MDCxThePG My thoughts exactly.... he should never have even humored her by allowing that hug. Pathetic.
Bonnie Beatrice I so agree. Eeeeew!
5:03 about the losses she endured tugged at at my heart on a personal level as I can relate 100% to her emotional state though she had 1 person in her life (I'm currently grieving with NO support); her husband, & that instead of been supportive, he "resented" her feelings of grieving. I'm sorry for her losses & her passing. 🕯
the hand hold and the hug was nauseating and creepy....I would have never. That should be against policy
Very cringe & strange. That would've been a big "no thanks" for me!
@@bethoneybee i’m sure he only agreed cause they were colleagues for years, but still endlessly creepy given the context
Wouldn't that be something that the lawyers could have a field day with? Preferential treatment, compromisin of impartiality, et cetera?
The detective was playing her game.
@@Stripedbottom Well she got the book thrown at her so I guess it worked out.
In her interview, the "surprised" Shawna, sounds so much like Stephanie Lazarus. A true sociopath!
Ignacio was so "shocked" that she tattooed his name on her body. He wasn't as shocked when he impregnated her and lied to her and to his poor wife.
BUT WHY THE UNDERWEAR? Mike, hilarious as always. Love you! Take care of yourself!
And sadly his wife , then eventually his beautiful daughter, were both taken from him. When will ppl learn to break up with , separate themselves before getting one on the side , it hurts not just the partner , the family , the checkbook, it really hurts when your extra piece on the side is a physco!
Ooh ol' Steph takes a bit of beating 😬
I thought the exact same thing! The feigned attempt at spluttering over her words, it was so reminiscent of the Stephanie Lazarus interrogation. Chilling!
I thought that!!
You start to notice that ALL guilty liars sound the same.
Lazarus was just the most extreme example.
I’m not even gonna talk about Shauna, because she doesn’t deserve words, but that horrible Michelle who knew someone was going to die - someone who was innocent, and a mother, was going to die and never said a word… she deserves life in prison as well because Heather’s life was taken by her just as much as by Shauna in my opinion.
Despicable. Horrific. Unconscionable.
Yup!!
I literally laughed out loud multiple times during this very sad story...while the thoroughness in details is awesome..the side comments and facial expressions are why I watch :)
Does anyone think she is a size 8? I normally wouldn't be mean... her lies are over the top, and include murder. All bets are off.
Seriously. I cannot get over how dumb murderers are! First, who thinks "yeah, know what will solve all of my problems and definitely won't create a whole host of new ones? Murder." And second, just how did she think this would all play out? Murder someone in front of a group of people and hope they think it's your husband? The underwear thing is also weird....if she planned to plant them as evidence somewhere, her bodily fluids would still be on them (assuming she wasn't doubled up with her own underwear and a pad) and would still link it back to her. This was just a straight up stupid plan. 🙄
It’s terrifying that people like Shauna just roam around being covered for by inaction until they ya know, murder someone
Honestly, but even if there's 400 red flags the cops can't intervene until they actually murder someone haha.
I remember all the complaints and warnings they got here in town about Elliot Rodgers, luckily I was a few blocks away that night.
Honestly though, kneeling down to be executed like that
I'd rather maybe get shot somewhere else while I tried disarming them instead of just accepting a headshot :/
@@KaladinVegapunk Yeah, that would be a truly horrifying way to go.
Genuinely angers me that Michelle knew and chose to say nothing, she knew Michelle was 100% going to murder Heather, and chose to only say something _after_ an innocent woman lost her life.
Also wow how crazy, a cop plants or removed evidence? How unexpected! Hahaha
Usually they're only helping out other cops or screwing over the poor
This case is even more sad because apparently after heather died, the dad moved to Florida with their daughter, Victoria Gaurrus. She died in a car accident before her 18th birthday.
Maybe had he of kept his penis in his pants, not moved to Florida, his wife and his daughter would be here today. So frustrating but he probably lives with this every single day!
Edit: hadn’t made it to the end and mike mentioned this bit!
Ignacio and Shawna deserved one another. It's unfortunate that Heather had those two losers in her life.
6:12 "... She did the ol' 'yappin' away' " LMAO.
"The worlds smallest violin played along" World's biggest smile and chuckle from me! Thankyou Mike!
Have been married to a law enforcement officer for 36ys (now retired) and I'm a retired corrections officer and I can tell you sheriff's and police department's are quite the hotbed for affairs!! Someone really should do a detailed behavioural study on the why's, I'm sure it would be fascinating!!
With all due respect, the stereotype goes that usually those that decide to become police officers are people that feel the need to exert power over others, which they might’ve not had before. Or were bullies before themselves. Obviously not all, but I’d ignorantly say that it could very well be this insecurity that leads to the “need” to have an affair. Those who cheat are insecure, selfish, and need some shallow satisfaction. I do not wish to think this way about the majority of our police force, but if you’re even saying cheating runs rampant in these fields, I’d assume it’s a fault in basic human decency and morality.
@@aliensun6144 it's the old "Do what thou wilt" attitude
Because: rules for you and rules for me
Doing something you shouldn't be doing is a rush. Work affairs are also convenient, and can in itself be a bond.
It's the same with teachers and school personnel - same again with politics - there are many professions that seem to fuel inter-relationships. It's often because the people involved naturally understand the pressure of the job role/profession, the hours, the ins and outs, the intrigue, all the admin/paperwork and the pay issues, all of the professional development and travel opportunities etc. It's because all this is understood "without being said" and therefore you automatically have a sense of kinship and trust. This can then progress quickly beyond friendship into some kind of sexual relationship. Often it is honest - and people get married to those in the same or similar profession. Sometimes it is affairs and other types of inappropriate relationships (e.g. positions of power and trust).
Mike, thank you for telling this story--which I'd recommended. I bank at the CU of CO and knew Heather; she was smart, kind, and competent in her job. She kept her daughter Victoria's drawings on her office wall. I was stunned when I learned of her murder. May Heather and Victoria rest In peace.
It's well sad her daughter passed away too.
How old was the daughter when she was killed in the car accident?
May they rest in peace. This is really sad. I hope the husband is taking great care of Ignacio's son. Thank you for sharing this with us and trusting Mike to tell it.
I hope she won't be forgotten. Such a tragic waste. She deserved so much better
That poor cop having to give shauna a hug 😬😬😬
I’m from Greeley and you’re right. For as long as I can remember its been a drug ridden, gang ridden, violent little town. I know a lot of stories from there that Mike could make some great videos from.
BTW, love you Mike. You’re a Master Storyteller! Watch you all the time ✌🏼💙🤘🏼
Heather went through so much. Lost her dad, her mom, lost her husband to a vicious and vile woman, as she lost interest in life, lost her faith in mankind finding her husband had a love child with another woman. Then lost her life. She was lucky enough not to bear witness her own daughter's death I guess. I can only imagine how her years must have been. And how much her own husband failed her.
I have no words for that crazy stupid woman who killed Heather. How can someone do this to someone.
It make you realize that we all need to care about each other more and cherish each and every day.
And how do you know she "lost interest in life, lost her faith in man kind"
@@morganpettipas9198 …because she was described that way! She was (understandably) incredibly depressed & called, “a shadow of herself”. Her reactions to so much incredible trauma was ‘normal’ & to be predicted.
@@suzimonkey345 sadly she might of been depressed if she didn’t piece together what her husband was doing…the other woman was practically in her face.
Maybe and I’m assuming here, she was too depressed to really see what was going on. She did get back with her husband and described as just not herself
Depression makes you a shadow of yourself, but being gaslighted also does. You can't pinpoint the reason you feel reality is so off. I'm sure she thought she could trust her husband, but he probably used her mental illness against her to keep his lies going.
Her family had the audacity to sit back there and disapprove of the verdict 😂😂
"no we're not Ignacio!"
hahahaha omggg that threw me off - I love this channel!
Mike has such a great way of putting things, like when he says Shauna was a "police dispatcher, she did the ol' yappin' away."
It's what makes his delivery so much better than other true crime content creators.
That was my favorite part
Yup! I love the way he delivers it all!
Wow, if you look up Victoria Shea Garraus' obituary, she looked EXACTLY like her late mother! Oh, and she was buried with her mother. So very sad how they both died. Her dad must feel guilty for bringing that nutcase into their lives.
She did. A spitting image. Which I imagine that can't been easy. Probably like losing their daughter Heather all over again.
He never showed any remorse AT ALL. He came off wanting to look like he was just as much a victim as Heather.
@@lovelight6973 Wow, I hadn't even thought of that! Poor grandparents/aunts/uncles!
@@AisforAlibi1 I agree. Totally. You're probably right.
@@lovelight6973 both her father and her mother had passed before she was murdered.
I know about this case years ago. It still makes me mad to this day hearing about this again. The gall of the mistress to abuse Heather and even flaunted the affair FFS. I also blame the douche bag husband of Heather. He and his mistress deserved each other and if anyone had to be murdered, you can choose from any of the two. Heather was innocent in all of this and she was murdered in such a horrible and senseless way.
Seriously tho but even after Shauna's Husband was going to look the other way and raise your love child as his own and you go do this SMH😠
@@moni2624 and it seems like she was going to try and pin the murder on him..driving his truck, wearing his clothes, planting evidence by throwing his shoes out of the window, using his gun, altering her voice to sound like a man...I guess that she thought having him locked up for murder and Heather dead it would clear the way for her to get back together with Ig.
@@virginiaviola5097 100% that was her plan!!
@@virginiaviola5097 - And STILL her husband arrived where she was stopped, knew what she did, seen how she was dressed, and still helped her get the gun out of her possession.
The murder was senseless and I’m sure very scary for Heather in that brief moment, but as far as murders go, I wouldn’t call this one terribly “horrible” like the OP said. Mike told us that Heather died right away - before she even hit the pavement, and there wasn’t any torture involved etc..
If I was going to be murdered, I would definitely take this way to go out (with simply being shot a couple of times and dying immediately) over some of the extremely fucked up and absolutely horrendous murders we have seen on this channel in the past. At least there was no drawn out suffering in Heather’s death.
RIP to her though.
Hahah good close-out Mike. "But why the underwear?!" - I agree lol. Thanks for another good video 😁
The wink… it gets me every time.
Mike, you have without a doubt made your mark on crime channels on RUclips. If somebody asks in threads what the best crime channels are, you’re ALWAYS mentioned! Keep em coming!
This and dead rabbit radio are my two personal favourites here on RUclips
By far the best there is!
The bar is set way up. Mike put it there.
I've been watching his channel pretty much from the beginning and have always thought this.
Best crime channel in the game bruuuhhh!
This is the first true crime story I’ve ever heard where the cop husband wasn’t the killer.
Thanks Mike for your investigative skill plus your sense of humour cheers 😊I'm hooked
So cruel. Trying to frame her innocent husband. Killing several birds with 1 bullet. She's a classic Sociopath.
I looked up Victoria and she is literally identical looking to her mother, Heather.
May they both rest in peace.
♥️
Both were extremely beautiful. And the stupid husband threw it all away for a piece of ugly.
@@trailrunner925 Shawna is disgusting and her personality is worse. Yeah, I don't understand that one. I think some people just cheat regardless of who it's with
Absolutly loving your style of story telling ! I'm romanian and I live close to the Ukraine border and this video came as a "normal thing" that I needed after seeing just tears and dispear all around me. Thank you!
You and those around you are in my prayers. Please stay safe as you can.
Praying for your country
💗🇺🇦❤️🇺🇲
Hang in there Alex.
Love and prayers for you and your country 🙏💕🇺🇸
Did Ken *not* realise that Shauna was trying to set *him* up for the fall so she and Ignacio could live happily ever after in her little fantasy world...🤔
Ladies if your husband is cheating on y’all, and started a whole family with somebody else, don’t fight for that relationship just because y’all have kids together. You don’t know how crazy the other women is and will kill you. Is not worth it, there’s better out there, and he won’t change
It's especially and number one not worth it for the sake and sanity of your children, they'd rather be from a broken home than live in one, staying together for the kids sake is the worst reason of all, an archaic premise, and how many times has the women, especially,killed her children to be with the man she's cheating with to please him, if only I didn't have these kids he'd be with me, and so on, remember Susan Smith? drove her car into a lake and drowned both her babies, further statiscally mothers kill their children 2 to 1 more than fathers, if they'll cheat with you they'll cheat on you....get a divorce if you need out that badly
@@bethewalt7385 I hate when women kill their own babies for a man. Like why even have kids, poor babies did nothing wrong.
Happy Tuesday, That Chapter Family!
Praying we all make it to Friday with Mike.
"I didn't murder my lover's wife, even though her husband was the father of my baby. You see, I was actually having TWO affairs, and I totally wanted to end them both and get back with my husband (when I have another man's name tattooed on my ankle.) My second lover is just angry that I spurned her, and the real killer is probably the husband who I was getting back with and who had no reason to hate Heather."
Behold, a defense so boldly stupid it's almost brilliant.
🤣🤣🤣
Such an awesome recap! i have seen so many summaries....but yours is the best!
Right ! 😂😂😂
Did she try to frame her husband by wearing his clothes?
"...and the real killer is probably the husband who I was getting back with *or my other spurned lover aka my best friend aka my co-defendant*."
Glad you have this talent! Reaching out, informing and seeing through the shhit!♡
25:10 😂😂😂😂 THOSE INSERTS!! -love how you throw in little quirks that are so unrelated to the tone you’re using- catches me off guard and on this one, i busted out laughing!!😂😂 Then you go back to your regular tone lol
You can seen the kindness and caring in Heather’s eyes, she didn’t deserve any of this 😔
She was beautiful. Such a shame that she was brought down by that rat and his psycho squeeze.
He put his marriage with Heather in danger for THAT she-beast?! Sweet Mary and Joseph, what good is a blind policeman anyway!? Tragic what happened to Victoria as well. Thank you for the great content as always.
Belly laugh!
Look at all her husband tolerated, and did for her...she had something working for her.
What a fun user name you have! You rang my lord?
I'd bet he put anyone in danger for some strange with any she-beast.
Most people be average looking, and most people be fucking, why is everyone surprised
I used to bank at CSECU back in the day. Heather was my favorite teller . While Shawna is rightfully convicted. It bothers me than the men in this mix don’t bare some responsibility as well.
Unfortunately a lack of backbone is yet to be prosecutable....... And humanity plods and plunders on......................
Who else besides stupid ignacio?
This is a horrible tragedy. The ironic part is after his Ignacio's daughter passed away his other biological child, he gave his parental rights up to is being raised by his mistress's husband.
When the detective said witnesses placed her at the scene we got her most honest response with “How?!”
She couldn’t believe they could see through her costume but it was more that everyone saw through her and her insane, stupid jealousy.
@babydoll
I was thinking the same thing. I also was wondering what she was whispering at the detective when she was hugging him.
But how?! The killer was wearing men’s undies 🤣
@@dimestorediamond9840 😂😂😂
Why his underwear?!
Lol she's was a 911 dispatcher how could she be so stupid
I noticed the “How!!??” immediately too
I just don't understand when someone is sleeping with someone else's husband and for some reason they think somehow that'll turn into a relationship. Even if he left his wife and stayed with her, usually when a relationship starts with cheating, it ends with cheating. Because if someone cheats to be with you, what is going to stop them from cheating on you with someone else?
When you reach the age they did, you options are limited so you become desperate. Desperate people make mistakes.
@@EricHamm well I had at 2 female friends when we were in our 20s who were both gorgeous, smart, had their life together except they were both dating married men. I tried to talk them out of it but they were in love. Needless to say it didn't work out.
Yep, classic!
Because it has happened
It sounds more like she was in lust and truly in love
Hey Mike, I only heard this story a few weeks ago for the first time but I really love the way you tell and present the story. Love your work.
about to buy me some "give it a goo" merch right tf now! love all that you do, mike oh
Watching Mikes character from 2-3 years ago compared to today is fantastic. Amazing to be able to watch someone evolve and create such brilliant content.
Keep them coming Mike!
Right? He's hardly recognizable in the older videos. I wonder if he originally thought it would be disrespectful to be witty when telling murder stories. His humor makes these stories SO much better.
@@VioletJoy I think it’s probably because the Internet can be so sensitive…. You never really know how people are gonna perceive you, so I would imagine it’s terrifying.
He leveled up.
I know right!!! Such an amazing journey
I agree, I've re watched a lot of his content. He certainly has come into his own. He's more of a friend or family now to his viewers which is great. He's one of very few who has connected with his viewers. He has his own possy. Someone needs to come up with a name.
A police officer breaks the law for someone they know, and is allowed to retire with benefits… what a shock.
I can't believe he took the gun! However, we don't know exactly why the charges were dropped.
Charges were dropped because the DA said “not enough evidence”. Ken is the only one who knows where the gun is and he has never said. Ken’s lawyer became a Judge there a couple years later with the full support of the DA. The DA in this area never prosecutes cops. How do I know? I am a lawyer in this part of Colo.
@@gingergeissinger1983 thanks for the info, typical isn't it?
Your humor is so funny. I can't even take these stories seriously because of your delivery. Love this channel.
LOL @ "It was love at first sight. There were doves and sparks ... and all that bullsh*t."
Shauna seems like a woman who has been able to manipulate men all her life. Even in the interview room...reaching for the hand of the detective and then asking for a hug before being cuffed. She was soo shocked when her manipulations no longer worked on Ignacio that she completely unravelled...and as usual the innocent people suffered the worst.
Doesn’t surprise me. She was attractive when she was younger but as she aged she lost what made men interested in her and the only thing she had going for her was lost. She made a move on Heather’s husband because her own husband didn’t excite her anymore, and when he finally had enough of her too it sent her into a spiral. She went from a small town 10 to a 4 in the dark and her value was gone.
@@Boodoo4You yea i find it bizarre she was so desperate to keep him... But not enough to lose all that weight. What is the logic?
@@hansolo631 Unfortunately there is no logic to most homicides like this. Also, that detective would have gotten read and removed from the case if he hugged a suspect during an interview in my department guaranteed. I don't care who she is.
Not sure why she wore her husband's underwear either.
Oh man, having ADHD, I don't pick up on those types of things, I would see past this facade faster than her mouth opens.
This has some Stephanie Lazarus vibes to it including the interrogation video with the repeated "I don't know"
The psychotic possessive madness of some people is still truly shocking.
It is truly scary. She was deluded and every time Detctive Garraus led her on she got more and more deluded, so it ended in murder. Sad, very very sad for Heather and her daughter
Miiiiikey! I've been watching you for ages and you've come so far man! Great coverage of this case. Love That Chapter. Keep it up 😁😁😁
It's so nice of you to add the merch info at the end (when it makes sense, the viewer already is an educated fan) instead of the way so many do it. Some pages there is such a delay, 2 min or so in, I'm like, you haven't even shown me a reason to stick around and I'm already bored at this point!
But you're not just any page and in your case we've been begging you for the merch! I wish I could afford to get merch and Patreon, not even a credit card here, but I really appreciate your attention to us including the poor folks. My birthday is coming and I'll tell folks how to find you. I dream of being somewhere, stuck with no one to talk to, when someone, (probably the only other interesting person in miles) might see my "give it a goo" T-shirt and we immediately have so much to talk about!
Man I really don’t get how Mike consistently puts out 2 high quality videos a week but thank god he does.
It's hardly Brian surgery normal people work upto 12 hours a day stop bootlicking
@@jaydentate6080 we’ll stop bootlicking when you learn to spell.🤣
We are blessed to have so many great stories about murderers. Wait
@@jaydentate6080 Brian surgery is so specific to people with that name only tho, sounds hard to me 🤔😜
He does a fantastic job! Although, this appears to be how he makes a living. I would think making 2 videos a week is roughly the equivalent of working 40 hours a week..
I tend to breeze through the week without paying attention to what day it is. Then Mike uploads and I'm pleasantly surprised, like right now "Oh yea, it's TUESDAY!"
Thank you for the great content!!!
SAME 😂 I was coming to make this exact comment. Mike is my calendar now
Nah, it's Wednesday 😉
I can't relate. I'm hanging out for Wednesday and Sat
Then after it’s over it’s just Tuesday again?
Same here lol I used to not care what day it is. Nope not anymore lol
“Dipping his wick!!” 😂😂
I haven’t heard that comment for quite awhile. 😁😂🕯
I just love the way you convey every case!
I typically dislike true crime stuff; I'm the type that gets depressed by the news. Mike somehow makes it palatable. His voice and narration is amazing (and it doesn't hurt that he's not hard on the eyes!)
I Get Depressed But I Need To Know So I Can Be Paranoid… Smh I Gotta Know About Peoples Shenanigans
@@anisezettecarey2448 Are you me?
@@anisezettecarey2448 I feel you! I live in Ontario, so I'm always worried about the next serial killer lol. Is paranoia still paranoia if you live in a murder-prone place?? That Bruce Mcarthur shit terrified me.
I know! The closing kills me every time. So cute ❤️
@@anisezettecarey2448 But Why Do You Gotta Type Like This Though
Hey Mike, it is a big difference from like 3 years ago until now you seem so much more comfortable like you came out of your shell . I love the way you make us laugh during a sad story. Thank you for all your hard work. 👍💗
I heard this on a podcast. I wanted to see what the characters look like. Yes, characters lmao! Anyway, so glad to see you covered it!
@That Chapter Another banger, Mike! Thank you, and I love ya.
Poor Heather was grieving and depressed and her husband did nothing to help her, apparently. I get it, after Heather started to distance herself due to her depression, I'm sure it wasn't exactly easy on him either, but there's no excuse for cheating. If he didn't want to be with her anymore, then he should have just left her. It's sad that Heather ultimately ended up dying because her husband couldn't keep it in his pants.
Instead of being a strong foundation for her in her time of need, he ultimately only thought of himself and his desires.
We don’t know whether or not Ignacio had been there for Heather and was a good husband for a long time after she began suffering her losses/developed mental illness. We don’t know how long Heather had been withdrawn for.
Perhaps Ignacio was just really lonely/starved for emotional & physical affection because Heather was inconsolable and not getting better over time - and perhaps he didn’t tell her/leave her when he wanted to have that affair because he feared that she was so depressed/unstable that she might be suicidal if she were to suffer yet another heartbreak/big loss. She might have already been suicidal for all we know (it’s quite common amongst chronically depressed people).
Point is, we shouldn’t make assumptions.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 point is, for better or worse. As the OP said, he shoulda kept it in his pants, regardless.
@@jamierupert7563
It’s so easy to judge people and situations you don’t know, isn’t it?
I wonder how you would feel if people scrutinized your life and poor decisions (even though in this case, it might not have been a poor decision, because he deserved to live too, and if she was so detached from him for many years and was also suicidal, then him cheating might have been the only solution at the time to still continue living his life where it isn’t empty af for him too - people need love and affection in their lives - but doing it in a way where he didn’t risk his wife ending her life…. I bet the bank that there wasn’t a thought in his mind that Shawna would have been capable of doing what she did when he decided to cheat with her).
I will say though that it was absolutely idiotic for him to not use protection with her… And he not only did it at least once the first time she got pregnant, but at least a second time as well.
That was just absolutely _DUMB,_ and I cannot think of one reasonable excuse for that - it was just him just being in the heat of the moment and wanting it to feel as good as possible. No way around that!
Anyways, I’m sure everything you do is totally moral and inexcusable no matter the circumstances, right? I am an atheist, but there is something to the Biblical line of “let he who is sinless cast the first stone…” (or something really close to that; you get the idea).
No matter what he did, he was not responsible for the murder of his wife, and people like you who are insinuating that he was are fucked up. Shit in life is messy, and not always as black-and-white as people like you seem to believe. Nobody - _NOBODY_ - is perfect. And there is not always an easy solution to a huge problem.
If she was suicidal, then this might have been the only solution for him to still continue living his life without getting extremely depressed himself, but still protecting her with compassion for keeping it a secret and not leaving her until she became emotionally stable enough to handle him leaving her.
I have been cheated on before when I was in such a depressed despondent state for a long time that I can understand why they cheated on me and kept it a secret. It’s hard to blame when I was very checked out of participating in the relationship for so long because of my emotional state.
It was a small mercy that they didn’t pour salt in the wound at that time by leaving me then (because I would _NOT_ have been able to handle that then), but they deserved to live too, and have a connection with someone else when I was utterly incapable of providing that for them for much too long.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 he said at the beginning he was having affairs behind her back for years before this one
You hear of this happening a lot especially if people have lost a child .. the husband often doesn't know how to handle the wife's grief
The way ignacio was smirking and smiling when he was on the stand talking about her tattoo, I think he really enjoyed having her besotted with him so much so that she would get his name tattooed on her as well as being extremely jealous. I think it really boosted his ego! His eyes were also really lit up! It's at 19:19 on this video
He looked so pleased with himself...it makes me sick.
He's gross
He has that air of superiority coupled with a resting smug face that only a cop would be comfortable displaying on the stand while testifying in their wife's murderer's trial.
That short moment along the with his behaviour in this sad story confirmed to me this man is a complete selfish p*/k! A vile person considering he talks so smugly when he should be ashamed, while not totally his fault it is still without doubt Heather was murdered and his own draughter grew up without a mother along with Shaunas three children one by him due to his actions without the which none of those things would have happened.
He seems like he has learnt nothing at all.
(I'm not in anyway excusing the others involved btw)
So true! Like he was looking down on her? It makes you wanna be the lawyer asking him. So if she was so crazy, why did you put your family at risk? If you're so rational then why'd you go for it? Just ICK
I'm always so glad to find one of your videos that I haven't seen. The way you narrate it keeps us from getting so depressed at this world. I hope you have a wonderful life
Amazing video! I love that you chose this case, it’s one of my favourites.
This one hurts so much. Happened so close to home. Bless her and her sweet daughter’s soul. Rest In Peace, Heather and Victoria.
Absolutely MAKES MY DAY when Mike realeases a new sorrid tale of murder, lies, and deceit! Brilliantly narrated! 🤘
Please read the Book of Mormon too.
god we're sick :-) and i love it!!!
he shore did sordid
I needed a smile which sounds strange with the videos you do. But somehow always give se giggles!
Heather literally didn't do anything to ruin this person's life. She managed to do it herself and other people's lives, too...
That Chapter has become a habit. What would we do without you Mike? Thanks for being sooo regular with your contents! ❤ from India.
Stop kidding yourself. I'm talking about your "habit". That's a full blown addiction you got yourself there. Lol
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Goodness, I'm over 50 and both of my parents recently passed away within 6 weeks of each other.
I can tell you that I definitely don't feel like having any kind of intimacy 🙄.
My husband is pretty unhappy about it.... threatening divorce over it.
I don't care at all.
Hang in there .
Sorry 😞
@@kingoreo3642
Thank you, I appreciate that ❤️
I’m really sorry you’re going through all that. Here’s hoping your heartache will soon ease, just a little…..and I’ve banned myself from saying anything about your husband. Hugs from Oz
My condolences for your loss. I lost an eye, then Dad within about 3 months, my mother went within 3 years. I've never been the same since. 🙏
I can see why no one could resist Shawna's charisma. 😅
So sorry for Heather. 😟
I just love Mike! He’s cute and he’s funny and he does a good job! And also Mike, you go ahead and play with your intro!! Do it!
Laughing cause when the woman on the phone says “it was that stupid bitch!” When telling the dispatch who shot heather idky it took me out
Interesting fact: this case and the Randy Baker case that Mike talks about were both prosecuted by the weld county district attorneys office. The same district attorney office that investigated and got Chris Watts
Good one, cool new merch. I have the TC coffee mug. I was hoping for a "Give it a Goo" shirt or mug. Appreciate ya, the research you do is excellent. I am sure it is not easy getting these videos ready every week. Just wanted to say "Thank You"
🤣🤣🤣Why the underware! Mike! You're awesome and you have fan clubs...cause ya know, we love ya...❤