My issue with the vacation home, is that the parents made these plans without consulting the people who own the home. What if there are already people scheduled to be in there? They are being selfish and entitled. It should have been a question ahead of making all their plans.
Exactly and for the co owned I think it’s just the married ones not the rest of the fam 🤞🏻so screw that !! *(by just the married ones I mean no matter the guilt the whining etc all that means nothing) the wife saying I’ll do it my self sign it over is a good hill to die on and no means no 🤣🤷🏻♀️)
Yeah also they’d be monopolizing the house that many people expect to be periodically available. Like should be split 3 ways or more depending on how many people use it. To think they’d be hogging it for 6 months straight feels wrong, especially after the context OP gave. Absolutely not😠 it does not belong to them, gifts don’t justify feeling entitled to your kids things.
Story 1 issue: they didn't ask. They just decided without discussing it with the homeowners. NTA, the in-laws need to learn to ask for things they want.
No. Those in laws just assumed they could. They never asked. The ACTUAL OWNERS of the house could and probably rent it out on VRBO or Airbnb. One they establish a residence they would have to be evicted. Also, NEVER RENT TO FRIENDS OR FAMILY. It ruins relationships. Edited for spelling
An ok op dress up calendar! I’d love to see the boys and Sophie in evening out shoot and an office, beach, hiking, zoo, helping Riley with his homework
They want to move into the house to figure things out 🤔 ummm yeah that's what they figured out because if they sold their house they should have enough to put a deposit and first months rent and last with that money. They want to be on a beach in their old age and you are married to their son 😂
The problem with the in laws is the just assumed they could live there. They knew well ahead of time what they wanted and only told OP 2 weeks before closing. It's not their house. It being a vacation house and OPs finances are irrelevant. There is room for compromise but the inlaws squatting is a very real danger. If OP says yes, there needs to be an air tight contract with deadlines on moving out. If they decide to stay anyway, OP could be in big trouble. Remember too that they dont "need help". This is something they planned for intentionally. Their lack of planning or communication isn't an excuse for presuming and imposing. Also, OP and her husband Co own it. Not the in laws.
OF Story: Had she not streamed on Twitch, the kids wouldn't have found out. Twitch and Kick are easily accessible by underage people. Had she not started there, it wouldn't have been as bad. I get it everyone wants to be Amouranth level but she is also childless if I'm not mistaken.
In regards to the "Vacation Home, "...6 months is ALOT OF MONEY TO MISS OUT ON! Yes, they USE IT OFTEN, but ALSO RENT IT OUT! I ALSO BELIEVE BC THEY HAVE "NO PLANS' they MAY NEVER LEAVE...probably bc they know they can KEEP GUILT TRIPPING their SON, once they're in and slow roll it, to the point the SON gives in!
*Beach House -* OP owes the in-laws nothing. I heard this story elsewhere + relevant info isn’t included here. The in-laws helped _a bit_ for maintenance, not 10s of 1000s, + for that they got to use it w/friends over Xmas + they use it during the year also. That doesn’t give them any claim to the house. *The owners are the names on the quitclaim deed.* No matter what in-laws paid. Also OP said they rent the place out during peak to help pay for the mortgage + costs. The more the in-laws pay the longer they stay. Plus with that MIL, her plan is to be a SQUATTER on moving day. OP is a smart cookie to put her foot down!
John: " What are you gonna do? Evict your parents, evict your in-laws?" 😬😬😬😬 *Me sitting here having spent over a grand evicting my mother-in-law and brother-in-law with no hesitation a few years ago* 😂
We did this to our kids and also had them do their own laundry. I got tired of them always throwing the clothes on the floor after I cleaned them and folded them. Now they both can take care of themselves when needed.
Already threatened my 7 year old grandson with teaching him how to do his own laundry if he didn't quit opening his closet and drawers and throwing his clothes all over his room. My husband taught him how to make his own sandwiches because he would only eat half of what he asked me to make for him and then come back an hour later saying he was hungry. It worked. It's been over a month and his clean clothes remain in his closet and drawers except for what he chooses to wear and he eats all the food he asks me to cook for him now.
The dinner story is very much what we do here at home. They have to try three bites of anything I cook and if they don't like it, they can make themselves a sandwich. I won't let anyone go to bed hungry, but I also don't let them not taste what I make.
Unfortunately, old school Latino parents feel entitled to have their children support them financially out of obligation. This is especially true with mothers manipulating their sons.
Can we ask how high-school kids got access to OF pictures? Like don't you need an ID to get on that site? Also Internet is forever that knowledge will always be there might as well bank on it to provide gor her son.
On the vacation home story , you three don't see the big picture. The inlaws want to move there permanently. They say 6 months, but their plan is to take it over and guild trip the son. I bet you 3-4 months in they will suddenly get sick and have to save the money they made from selling the house , for their old years.
Even before the context in story 1 op was NOT the ahole. You know how long it takes to sell a house and they don’t TELL op they plan till 2 weeks before? Basically trying to force them into having no choice! It takes 3-6 months on the lesser end and even before that it probably takes a little minute to find a good realtor so they knew about this for damn near a year and just bringing it up 2 weeks before? Then… they try to guilt trip op…. Yeah. No!!! Then they don’t ask they tell op that they want to stay there…. No. Hell no. Also I would just like to say just cus you contributed money for something for someone else does not make you part owner of it. If the money you give got stipulations like that you need to tell ppl ahead of time. If I contribute money to buying my cousin a house. I don’t also get the keys to that house. That’s not how that works and I love my family. I would let them stay in my vacation house if I had one but they would also ASK and they wouldn’t try to guilt trip me if I had to say no. That ain’t it
I feel the same. If they just asked when they started planning to sell the home, unless I needed the income, I probably would’ve offered it to them for free as long as it was cleaned up by the time they left.
Only let them move into the vacation home if they already have the condo in the works. None of this ‘until we figure things out’. Just them not even asking first before they set up their plans just absolutely screams they have no intention of moving out
Most people I know rely on what they charge friends and family to pay the mortgage and fees on their vacation property to pay the mortgage….the problem is they did not ask…family or not you can not act entitled….not to mention usually it is booked for the year ahead for the next year
This reminded me of when my mom left and my dad had to figure out how to be mommy and daddy for 3 daughters, he's a good cook but he ended up making steak and mashed potatoes 3 nights a week until we joined together in a hunger strike and refused to eat it. My older sister even went briefly vegetatian. He started making more varied meals (and more leftover able meals) and letting me cook sometimes, mostly sloppy joes, or assist, and everyone was much happier. I absolutely love my dad's chicken and rice and now I want it so bad. The secret is a little lemon pepper or orange peel in the seasoning. Also to be fair to my dad the classic dad meal is something my little sister has never eaten except for cut up patties when she was little: burgers. She's the picky eater in the house and most meals she didn't want to eat or not eat every part. She's so picky that her food was so high in salt that it contributed to her getting high blood pressure obscenely young and having to change her diet.
Sam I’m so glad you apologized to John. You needed to squash that. Just say no from now on… ETA: my mom stole/used mine and my sister’s identities. I found out after having my son at 21 that I was in mountains of debt that I’m still climbing out of at 38, oh and she has now passed. So yay us! 49:31 - my EXACT EXACT EXXXAACCCTTTT reaction then and now. And that was an officer… do they just hire anyone?
first story my cousin left one of cousin's and her daughter both adults to move into a small home until they were finanically able to to get a bigger place... this was a hunting cabin no bedrooms.. They were financially able to move after couple years but hadn't moved out before covid. Meanwhile this is when learned they were hoarders who were not only hoarders but nasty. Anyhow last year in Oct they skipped out but had already ruined the home. The homehad to be gutted. Still trying get her take them to court.
33:16 - I was bullied in school, I was so alone and dreaded school every single day. It felt like there was no escape. If my mom was a direct cause of those DARK DARK days I wouldn’t be in contact even before 18
Cutting off your mom for doing her best to literally afford to live is a horrible thing to do. Do you think all the other “embarrassing” jobs deserve the same treatment? Would you cut off a single parent for being a garbage man? A janitor? A waiter? Literally any other job kids make fun of parents for?
I love cooking. If one kid doesn’t eat the meal, then they’ll have to survive off the sides for a night. I love the idea of a kid’s cooking night! They learn to cook and prep food. They can be as creative as they want. Overall a win IMO.
It sounds like the in-laws manipulated OP here. They contributed to the house financially with an ulterior motive of being able to live there when they needed to, and never mentioned it until they needed to move in. I would NOT be ok with someone moving into my personal sanctuary, especially not my in-laws. They know how to manipulate their son, and he doesn’t see it.
Sorry, but this just sounds out of touch and extremely entitled. I don't even understand how you come to the conclusion that they are the AH. Someone doesn't just get to sell their house and tell you that they are moving into your house. Doesn't matter if they are family. Let alone pay maintenance fees... after frequently staying in your vacation home for free.
Lol, my kid is spoiled. I cook two whole meals sometimes, but I also have a rule that she has to try everything I make. Regardless she does like helping me cook anything. This kid sprints to the kitchen when I offer her a stirring spoon
My parents did this. I now have permanent damage to my intestines due to undiagnosed weird allergies. Being a young kid i didn’t understand what was wrong just that certain things I didn’t like and my parents called me picky and said exactly that “you can eat what i made or not eat at all” many nights I did skip dinner and have serious eating issues due to the random fasting and can barely keep food down because of the damage done from forcing myself to eat those foods, I throw up at least once a day. Hope you enjoy whatever choices you decide to make to treat your kids like they aren’t human beings and are happy with yourself when you’re rotting in a nursing home. Kids deserve just as much respect as adults bring young doesn’t mean their opinions and feelings don’t matter.
Got my identity stolen, still haven't figured out how. They got into my email and signed me up for tons of sex sights. Got into my bank account and changed my home address, tried to charge lg sums and transfer money from savings to another bank. Thankfully my bank stopped it all before any money was lost. Had to change everything. Game police the new address on my account and they did nothing.
If any parent does something weird online, even if it’s goofy and harmless, kids would probably say something about it. Moving won’t fix it IMO. The internet is forever.
I can’t even believe you guys are considering the idea of people pushing their way into somebody else’s house. I don’t give a crap what they contribute. The fact that they’re even asking, is outrageous, as if because they are family they are somehow entitled. You guys have to be kidding me right now. so you think a couple should just turn their life upside down, with how they do things, and live their life, because a couple of in-laws had the nerve to sell their house before even speaking about where they would be living. I would never, I don’t care who they are, let anyone turn my life upside down in such a way? Let them throw their crap in storage and go rent a small apartment..
The cooking story 😂😂 I was absolutely against eating pork for the longest time when I was in my midteens so my mom said on those nights I had to make my own food. I was working at the time too so most of the time I even got my own groceries. (They ate pork A LOT back then)
I’m so thankful for OF. I started working on my 18th birthday and every job I’ve ever had. I’ve been sexually harassed by men and harassed by women because I’m pretty and yes we do get treated differently, so I’m super thankful for my OF and I’m just waiting for the summer to make some new content on my pink JetSki!❤
I've done the dinner thing. Still do in periods. I got 3 very different kids, but somehow they all hate whatever I make despite liking it a week prior. So when nothing I make is good enough and they choose not to eat at all no matter what, I stop cooking for them. They can have whatever they can make or find themselves. The odd thing here is that we all got adhd, ALL 5 of us. We will forget to eat all together if I don't have scheduled meals, so it will only last a couple of days before we're back to cooking and complaining. It never ends 😂 the latest excuse from the middle one is that he's suddenly "allergic" to anything that involves rice.. he's not. He just learned that a classmate is allergic to cats (no he doesn't eat our cats) so now being allergic is the new buzzword. Last week it was "it's MY body!" As they learned about bountries at school.. But that was about taking a shower so we shut that down pretty fast 😅
49:00 is why I have Zander insurance, any of this happens they have a lawyer to clear all of it up for me and they give me my money back 😅 hopefully I’ll never need it but the piece of mind is worth the $13 a months.
PRican here. Sounds about right. Boomers a boomer, though, but a PR boomer comes with a little extra toxic masculinity and no boundaries and sometimes a little catholic guilt tripping
NO GUYS. These in-laws SOLD THEIR HOUSE without even discussing these plans either their son and DIL. NO NO NO this is such entitled behavior. They will never leave.
On OF, I believe you can block areas so friends, family, and those you don't want to know have a much less chance of knowing you're on there. It's not a guarantee of course, but it's something.
regarding mother in law. that OP YTA up until she drew the line. im shockded that no one said she was to herself. she stayed married to a man who defended that nonsense & kept having kids. id still be open to help the parents, but lines must be drawn and held firm. the inlaw parents were obviously TA. in the end, the OP NTA upon asserting herself as the hubby had an alternative
The vacation home... they didn't ask. They didn't plan this together and the only reason the parents don't have a place to stay is because they planned something without getting the home owners permission. 100% sounds like they are trying move in permanently. Them SAYING they are moving in, vs ASKING about moving in = I would 1000000% say no for that reason alone, and make them sign a lease and pay full rent with the ability to evict them.
Someone used my name and social to get a Pell grant for college in a city I'd never been to and before I even got my GED. Trying to get my fafsa turned back over to me was rough.
I had this happen personally, my dad went crazy looking for my birth certificate before leaving for Mexico when I was 15. My mom got mad because she didn't see the point since I wasn't going. I did go when I was 12, but haven't returned since because he brought up his GF and I suspect she used my certificate to come across the border.
@@BarelySleeping it was a thing last episode, John and Sophia, wanted to confuse the heck out of Sam. So John got the fans to comment fake RUclips beef, so that when Sam was reading the comments he would be so confused
Story 1: I don't really think it's an issue to let the parents in (that is, before seeing signs that they'll likely never leave). The big issue is the fact that they decided this without discussing it with them.
I’ve definitely have bought more certificates and cards for my kids bc I keep loosing them 😂 BUT never would I sell my kids stuff. I want them to start off on a good step.
I agree it's an excuse and bs... but it is a common excuse and tactic used by a lot of Puerto Rican communities throughout the mainland US. Very similar to the extremely toxic excuses and bs tactics of "culture", that American Italians put on (especially the ones who have very little connection to Italian culture and family.)
OP isn’t the Ahole… the in laws decided this without consulting or asking for permission. They just felt entitled to make it OPs problem. Regarding the increase in payment… I want to know how what they plan to pay compares to what OP and spouse would be earning otherwise. This could still be a financial hardship for them. If OP decides to let them stay there, they should have a contract which includes payment and a strict maximum end date, since entitled people can’t be trusted not to indefinitely extend their stay.
I think the fact that they didn’t ask them but told them last minute is sus. If they pay maintenance they’re also using the property so that’s not the point. And because the couple uses it as a rental property, once the in-laws move in if they decide they want to stay after six months they would have to be evicted. The law would consider them tenets. I don’t think op is wrong because I think the rental property is there downsizing.
The mom with the "picky kids" just doesn't like her kids very much in my eyes lol. Like with the spaghetti issue - literally all she has to do is leave the fennel out and use gluten free spaghetti noodles. Is that really so hard? No, it's extremely easy. My 3 kids have food preferences too (as do I and almost every other human being), and if one of us doesnt like something I just leave it out of their (or my) portion. I dont mind spending 2 extra seconds to make sure everyone has a nourishing meal to eat and can go to bed with a full tummy. I really wonder how old her kids are too and if shes even taught them to cook? Because if they're like 8 and havent been taught how to prepare any meals then they'll just go to bed hungry which is messed up. Why even have kids if one of the most basic parts of motherhood (nurturing through feeding nourishing meals to your children) is too much for you? Look up some new recipes online that are easy to leave things out of, its pretty simple. OP just lacks creativity and problem solving skills. Not being able to solve the spaghetti thing itself is pretty comcerning, that was the easiest fix ever.
Thank you! I have some weird dietary issues I didn’t know about as a kid and got written off as “picky” I now have permanent damage to my intestines from my parents having the “you eat what I make or starve” approach where often I either did go without or forced down whatever they made. It pisses me off when parents act like their kids don’t have thoughts and feelings just like they do. I know not everyone will be my case but if you’re even willing to risk it you shouldn’t have kids. I literally can’t go more than a day without having issues keeping food down as a direct consequence of them not allowing me to have a say in dinner. It also makes me suspicious how op talks about the kid with Celiac, it sounds the same as how my mom talks about my issues (now diagnosed) and she constantly is holding it against me when she can’t make what she wants and expect me to eat it really has the “I know it’s not her fault BUT…” vibes
The OF "mom" / OP is 100% the AH.. like come on.. we have all been kids.. i could not imagine the torture that child is going through.. money means nothing if your job is an embarrassment to your family, ESPECIALLY YOUR CHILD. All the reports of self harm / self deletion due to the bullying these kids are going due to their "mothers" doing OF. It's sad, it's sick and it's selfish.
My issue with the vacation home, is that the parents made these plans without consulting the people who own the home. What if there are already people scheduled to be in there? They are being selfish and entitled. It should have been a question ahead of making all their plans.
This is very true! I was thinking the same thing
@@jessm.porthos the more she said, the more this is true. They were never going to move out!
Exactly!
Exactly 💯
Exactly and for the co owned I think it’s just the married ones not the rest of the fam 🤞🏻so screw that !!
*(by just the married ones I mean no matter the guilt the whining etc all that means nothing) the wife saying I’ll do it my self sign it over is a good hill to die on and no means no 🤣🤷🏻♀️)
Who sells their home with no where else to go? This was intentional to permanently move in.
Nope. Op’s In-Laws may have contributed cash for maintenance, but they’ve already been reimbursed with free stays over holidays that included friends.
And you just know that once they move in, they're slowly going to stop paying rent.
Yeah also they’d be monopolizing the house that many people expect to be periodically available. Like should be split 3 ways or more depending on how many people use it. To think they’d be hogging it for 6 months straight feels wrong, especially after the context OP gave. Absolutely not😠 it does not belong to them, gifts don’t justify feeling entitled to your kids things.
Yes! They are not owed anything. I found the idea of repaying them obtuse.
OP the other set of parents contributed financially?
Story 1 issue: they didn't ask. They just decided without discussing it with the homeowners. NTA, the in-laws need to learn to ask for things they want.
Agreed!! That’s my main issue too.
They just assumed that they can live there. The audacity of the ILs!
She doesn’t have an in-law problem she has a husband problem. He needs to stand up to his mum
Yes!!
Sam and John back together !! So glad they cleared up their beef 😄
It was a wild ride but all's well that ends well. The bromance continues!
Yeah I can’t believe that home wrecker got in between them 😢 so sad
Yo what are the Clift notes . Idk what was going on
@@soulaww4563 John and Sophia asked the OKOP Fam to play a practical joke on Sam by creating fake beef in yesterday's vid... today beef be over.
So crazy, glad the beef was squished
Nope. SAM, tell the truth. Your Sister helped you build the Harry Potter Lego set. She already told us!! 😂
No. Those in laws just assumed they could. They never asked. The ACTUAL OWNERS of the house could and probably rent it out on VRBO or Airbnb. One they establish a residence they would have to be evicted. Also, NEVER RENT TO FRIENDS OR FAMILY. It ruins relationships.
Edited for spelling
An ok op dress up calendar! I’d love to see the boys and Sophie in evening out shoot and an office, beach, hiking, zoo, helping Riley with his homework
LMAO What homework??? - Riley
Pick up them Cougars LMAO@@OKOPShow
😂😂😂😂
@@OKOPShow please put Sam and John flying through space with Sophia as a moon/planet and riley painting the scene like bob ross.
@@OKOPShow Picking up those Cougars LMAO
They want to move into the house to figure things out 🤔 ummm yeah that's what they figured out because if they sold their house they should have enough to put a deposit and first months rent and last with that money. They want to be on a beach in their old age and you are married to their son 😂
The problem with the in laws is the just assumed they could live there. They knew well ahead of time what they wanted and only told OP 2 weeks before closing. It's not their house. It being a vacation house and OPs finances are irrelevant.
There is room for compromise but the inlaws squatting is a very real danger. If OP says yes, there needs to be an air tight contract with deadlines on moving out. If they decide to stay anyway, OP could be in big trouble. Remember too that they dont "need help". This is something they planned for intentionally. Their lack of planning or communication isn't an excuse for presuming and imposing.
Also, OP and her husband Co own it. Not the in laws.
OF Story: Had she not streamed on Twitch, the kids wouldn't have found out. Twitch and Kick are easily accessible by underage people. Had she not started there, it wouldn't have been as bad. I get it everyone wants to be Amouranth level but she is also childless if I'm not mistaken.
In regards to the "Vacation Home, "...6 months is ALOT OF MONEY TO MISS OUT ON! Yes, they USE IT OFTEN, but ALSO RENT IT OUT! I ALSO BELIEVE BC THEY HAVE "NO PLANS' they MAY NEVER LEAVE...probably bc they know they can KEEP GUILT TRIPPING their SON, once they're in and slow roll it, to the point the SON gives in!
*Beach House -* OP owes the in-laws nothing. I heard this story elsewhere + relevant info isn’t included here. The in-laws helped _a bit_ for maintenance, not 10s of 1000s, + for that they got to use it w/friends over Xmas + they use it during the year also. That doesn’t give them any claim to the house. *The owners are the names on the quitclaim deed.* No matter what in-laws paid.
Also OP said they rent the place out during peak to help pay for the mortgage + costs. The more the in-laws pay the longer they stay. Plus with that MIL, her plan is to be a SQUATTER on moving day. OP is a smart cookie to put her foot down!
I thought Sam and John would never work things out, I’m so glad they did!
Didn’t know they were fighting
@@justolivialewis6700 they weren’t, it’s just an inside joke from the episode before
John: " What are you gonna do? Evict your parents, evict your in-laws?"
😬😬😬😬
*Me sitting here having spent over a grand evicting my mother-in-law and brother-in-law with no hesitation a few years ago* 😂
We did this to our kids and also had them do their own laundry. I got tired of them always throwing the clothes on the floor after I cleaned them and folded them. Now they both can take care of themselves when needed.
Already threatened my 7 year old grandson with teaching him how to do his own laundry if he didn't quit opening his closet and drawers and throwing his clothes all over his room. My husband taught him how to make his own sandwiches because he would only eat half of what he asked me to make for him and then come back an hour later saying he was hungry. It worked. It's been over a month and his clean clothes remain in his closet and drawers except for what he chooses to wear and he eats all the food he asks me to cook for him now.
The dinner story is very much what we do here at home. They have to try three bites of anything I cook and if they don't like it, they can make themselves a sandwich. I won't let anyone go to bed hungry, but I also don't let them not taste what I make.
OKOF!!! 💗💗💗 Someone make it happen!!! We need a powerpoint presentation...
Big protein is good at PowerPoints 😂
Unfortunately, old school Latino parents feel entitled to have their children support them financially out of obligation. This is especially true with mothers manipulating their sons.
The fact that the in-laws just assumed they didn't need to speak to their son and DIL who OWN the home is beyond entitled.
Can we ask how high-school kids got access to OF pictures? Like don't you need an ID to get on that site? Also Internet is forever that knowledge will always be there might as well bank on it to provide gor her son.
So glad y’all talked about it and moved forward!
On the vacation home story , you three don't see the big picture. The inlaws want to move there permanently. They say 6 months, but their plan is to take it over and guild trip the son. I bet you 3-4 months in they will suddenly get sick and have to save the money they made from selling the house , for their old years.
The more I hear about the story, I am more and more sure the husband is Chinese
Even before the context in story 1 op was NOT the ahole. You know how long it takes to sell a house and they don’t TELL op they plan till 2 weeks before? Basically trying to force them into having no choice! It takes 3-6 months on the lesser end and even before that it probably takes a little minute to find a good realtor so they knew about this for damn near a year and just bringing it up 2 weeks before? Then… they try to guilt trip op…. Yeah. No!!! Then they don’t ask they tell op that they want to stay there…. No. Hell no. Also I would just like to say just cus you contributed money for something for someone else does not make you part owner of it. If the money you give got stipulations like that you need to tell ppl ahead of time. If I contribute money to buying my cousin a house. I don’t also get the keys to that house. That’s not how that works and I love my family. I would let them stay in my vacation house if I had one but they would also ASK and they wouldn’t try to guilt trip me if I had to say no. That ain’t it
I feel the same. If they just asked when they started planning to sell the home, unless I needed the income, I probably would’ve offered it to them for free as long as it was cleaned up by the time they left.
Even when you accept an offer, the buyer might decide to lower their offer on closing day, and you gotta tell them to take a hike.
If they stay there for six months and decide they don’t want to move their children would have to evict him.
John lookin dapper af in his suit
As a mom of 2 kids that would never agree on anything I had to go on strike a few times… It worked… they are both adults now ! parents for the win!
Burning Rose-- OK OF was perfection! 🤣🤤🤣
You’re business partners, don’t mess with the bag
Only let them move into the vacation home if they already have the condo in the works. None of this ‘until we figure things out’. Just them not even asking first before they set up their plans just absolutely screams they have no intention of moving out
Exactly! Set off my alarm bells🚩🚨🚩
The MARRIED COUPLE co-owns the house, not them and his parents.
Most people I know rely on what they charge friends and family to pay the mortgage and fees on their vacation property to pay the mortgage….the problem is they did not ask…family or not you can not act entitled….not to mention usually it is booked for the year ahead for the next year
Right?🚩 My thoughts exactly💀
This reminded me of when my mom left and my dad had to figure out how to be mommy and daddy for 3 daughters, he's a good cook but he ended up making steak and mashed potatoes 3 nights a week until we joined together in a hunger strike and refused to eat it. My older sister even went briefly vegetatian. He started making more varied meals (and more leftover able meals) and letting me cook sometimes, mostly sloppy joes, or assist, and everyone was much happier.
I absolutely love my dad's chicken and rice and now I want it so bad. The secret is a little lemon pepper or orange peel in the seasoning.
Also to be fair to my dad the classic dad meal is something my little sister has never eaten except for cut up patties when she was little: burgers. She's the picky eater in the house and most meals she didn't want to eat or not eat every part. She's so picky that her food was so high in salt that it contributed to her getting high blood pressure obscenely young and having to change her diet.
Glad Sam and John aired out their grievances. Now play nice, boys 😉.
Yes I can’t believe they let that gold digger come between them 😢
@@tacooflove6175 Right? Bros before hoes.
What happened?
😂😂 I can’t believe it was almost the end of OKOP. So glad they worked it out
@@sarahvolz7459 it's just an inside bit John started recently in a video. Everything's actually ok, don't worry 😊🖤.
glad to see them back together 😭 still can’t believe john would do that lol!!
lol that rumba story was great!
The Rumba story had me en tears🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sam I’m so glad you apologized to John. You needed to squash that. Just say no from now on…
ETA: my mom stole/used mine and my sister’s identities. I found out after having my son at 21 that I was in mountains of debt that I’m still climbing out of at 38, oh and she has now passed. So yay us!
49:31 - my EXACT EXACT EXXXAACCCTTTT reaction then and now. And that was an officer… do they just hire anyone?
first story my cousin left one of cousin's and her daughter both adults to move into a small home until they were finanically able to to get a bigger place... this was a hunting cabin no bedrooms.. They were financially able to move after couple years but hadn't moved out before covid. Meanwhile this is when learned they were hoarders who were not only hoarders but nasty. Anyhow last year in Oct they skipped out but had already ruined the home. The homehad to be gutted. Still trying get her take them to court.
18:27 - I would contribute money if I was staying in a vacation home with NO claims to the property. It’s in lieu of rent or payment for a stay.
There is also the thing called "renters rights".
33:16 - I was bullied in school, I was so alone and dreaded school every single day. It felt like there was no escape. If my mom was a direct cause of those DARK DARK days I wouldn’t be in contact even before 18
Cutting off your mom for doing her best to literally afford to live is a horrible thing to do. Do you think all the other “embarrassing” jobs deserve the same treatment? Would you cut off a single parent for being a garbage man? A janitor? A waiter? Literally any other job kids make fun of parents for?
Fuck yes i wont to refuse
I love cooking. If one kid doesn’t eat the meal, then they’ll have to survive off the sides for a night. I love the idea of a kid’s cooking night! They learn to cook and prep food. They can be as creative as they want. Overall a win IMO.
She should hire a nanny to drop him off at school if she's making such good money and change his last name at a new school
It sounds like the in-laws manipulated OP here. They contributed to the house financially with an ulterior motive of being able to live there when they needed to, and never mentioned it until they needed to move in. I would NOT be ok with someone moving into my personal sanctuary, especially not my in-laws. They know how to manipulate their son, and he doesn’t see it.
Sorry, but this just sounds out of touch and extremely entitled. I don't even understand how you come to the conclusion that they are the AH.
Someone doesn't just get to sell their house and tell you that they are moving into your house. Doesn't matter if they are family. Let alone pay maintenance fees... after frequently staying in your vacation home for free.
My kids were like this. I just cooked what i wanted and told them to eat to live.
Lol, my kid is spoiled. I cook two whole meals sometimes, but I also have a rule that she has to try everything I make. Regardless she does like helping me cook anything. This kid sprints to the kitchen when I offer her a stirring spoon
My parents did this. I now have permanent damage to my intestines due to undiagnosed weird allergies. Being a young kid i didn’t understand what was wrong just that certain things I didn’t like and my parents called me picky and said exactly that “you can eat what i made or not eat at all” many nights I did skip dinner and have serious eating issues due to the random fasting and can barely keep food down because of the damage done from forcing myself to eat those foods, I throw up at least once a day. Hope you enjoy whatever choices you decide to make to treat your kids like they aren’t human beings and are happy with yourself when you’re rotting in a nursing home. Kids deserve just as much respect as adults bring young doesn’t mean their opinions and feelings don’t matter.
@emilyjohn2034 I was just about to bring this up. Sometimes there's a good reason kids won't eat certain things.
My dad did the same thing to my little brother! He had so many credit cards out in my brothers name it wasn't funny.
@43:57 Parenting at its finest! Anything tastes good when your truely hungry. Dad wont be hearing anymore complaints for a while.
My mother always said if you’re old enough to complain about it then you’re old enough to cook it
9:32 Riley was dying😂😂😂😅😅
Got my identity stolen, still haven't figured out how. They got into my email and signed me up for tons of sex sights. Got into my bank account and changed my home address, tried to charge lg sums and transfer money from savings to another bank. Thankfully my bank stopped it all before any money was lost. Had to change everything. Game police the new address on my account and they did nothing.
If any parent does something weird online, even if it’s goofy and harmless, kids would probably say something about it. Moving won’t fix it IMO. The internet is forever.
I can’t even believe you guys are considering the idea of people pushing their way into somebody else’s house. I don’t give a crap what they contribute. The fact that they’re even asking, is outrageous, as if because they are family they are somehow entitled. You guys have to be kidding me right now. so you think a couple should just turn their life upside down, with how they do things, and live their life, because a couple of in-laws had the nerve to sell their house before even speaking about where they would be living. I would never, I don’t care who they are, let anyone turn my life upside down in such a way? Let them throw their crap in storage and go rent a small apartment..
The cooking story 😂😂 I was absolutely against eating pork for the longest time when I was in my midteens so my mom said on those nights I had to make my own food. I was working at the time too so most of the time I even got my own groceries. (They ate pork A LOT back then)
I’m so thankful for OF. I started working on my 18th birthday and every job I’ve ever had. I’ve been sexually harassed by men and harassed by women because I’m pretty and yes we do get treated differently, so I’m super thankful for my OF and I’m just waiting for the summer to make some new content on my pink JetSki!❤
I've done the dinner thing. Still do in periods. I got 3 very different kids, but somehow they all hate whatever I make despite liking it a week prior. So when nothing I make is good enough and they choose not to eat at all no matter what, I stop cooking for them. They can have whatever they can make or find themselves. The odd thing here is that we all got adhd, ALL 5 of us. We will forget to eat all together if I don't have scheduled meals, so it will only last a couple of days before we're back to cooking and complaining. It never ends 😂 the latest excuse from the middle one is that he's suddenly "allergic" to anything that involves rice.. he's not. He just learned that a classmate is allergic to cats (no he doesn't eat our cats) so now being allergic is the new buzzword. Last week it was "it's MY body!" As they learned about bountries at school.. But that was about taking a shower so we shut that down pretty fast 😅
49:00 is why I have Zander insurance, any of this happens they have a lawyer to clear all of it up for me and they give me my money back 😅 hopefully I’ll never need it but the piece of mind is worth the $13 a months.
PRican here. Sounds about right. Boomers a boomer, though, but a PR boomer comes with a little extra toxic masculinity and no boundaries and sometimes a little catholic guilt tripping
NO GUYS. These in-laws SOLD THEIR HOUSE without even discussing these plans either their son and DIL. NO NO NO this is such entitled behavior. They will never leave.
On OF, I believe you can block areas so friends, family, and those you don't want to know have a much less chance of knowing you're on there. It's not a guarantee of course, but it's something.
I don't think it's going to be only 6 months
Story 1 nta no its a income property. And they were not asked. Plus what happens if the build takes longer?
I want the sexy calendar. Leave Sophia out. 😂
regarding mother in law. that OP YTA up until she drew the line. im shockded that no one said she was to herself.
she stayed married to a man who defended that nonsense & kept having kids. id still be open to help the parents, but lines must be drawn and held firm. the inlaw parents were obviously TA.
in the end, the OP NTA upon asserting herself as the hubby had an alternative
If you make one You should call it the Not so Sexy, Sexy Calander. Pose in all sorts of "sexy" poses but do it in goofy/ not sexy outfits
The vacation home... they didn't ask. They didn't plan this together and the only reason the parents don't have a place to stay is because they planned something without getting the home owners permission. 100% sounds like they are trying move in permanently. Them SAYING they are moving in, vs ASKING about moving in = I would 1000000% say no for that reason alone, and make them sign a lease and pay full rent with the ability to evict them.
Hi guys!❤️
LMAO over the Roomba😂
My son is raising 2 lady ducks lol Lucy and Vicky. He thought they were males when we bought them and had named them Lucifer and Victor😂
The show is SO much better with the OGs!
Aww I love Sophia and Riley! Sophia is just a prettier, smarter version of Sam anyway 😳
24:21 making bank without doing anything and have no talent or skills. Sounds like a great mother
Someone used my name and social to get a Pell grant for college in a city I'd never been to and before I even got my GED. Trying to get my fafsa turned back over to me was rough.
I had this happen personally, my dad went crazy looking for my birth certificate before leaving for Mexico when I was 15. My mom got mad because she didn't see the point since I wasn't going. I did go when I was 12, but haven't returned since because he brought up his GF and I suspect she used my certificate to come across the border.
And my sister had his sister use her social security to go to the hospital. Can't say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Lego gauntlet was thrown!
12:40 heheheheh finally got a mention
The only lesson i took from the OF story is that shit is profitable and how can-uh, my friend start one and make bank....
THANK GOD THE BEEF IS OVER WELCOME BACK SAM
Yes I’m still shocked they let that money misunderstanding come between them 😢
Omg what happen?
@@BarelySleeping it was a thing last episode, John and Sophia, wanted to confuse the heck out of Sam. So John got the fans to comment fake RUclips beef, so that when Sam was reading the comments he would be so confused
Story 1: I don't really think it's an issue to let the parents in (that is, before seeing signs that they'll likely never leave). The big issue is the fact that they decided this without discussing it with them.
Calendar where Sam (and maybe Riley) have sexy pics, but Sophia and John’s pictures are just like Sophia reading a book and John’s luscious hair 😂
Yeah I’m curious what she means exactly by co-owners. Are they JUST paying maintenance or did they put money into the purchase as well?
I think she meant both her and her husband own the house.
I’ve definitely have bought more certificates and cards for my kids bc I keep loosing them 😂 BUT never would I sell my kids stuff. I want them to start off on a good step.
Did the parents pay maintenance only when they were staying there? Utilities, ect.? That was my feeling from what she said.
The moment OP said they were Puerto Rican it all made sense
37:16 GOD DAMN!!!
My issue is they did not ask!! They just slapped it on them
Puerto Rican here, the culture thing is Absolutely an excuse. That's not a thing!!
I agree it's an excuse and bs... but it is a common excuse and tactic used by a lot of Puerto Rican communities throughout the mainland US.
Very similar to the extremely toxic excuses and bs tactics of "culture", that American Italians put on (especially the ones who have very little connection to Italian culture and family.)
I've never heard of that excuse before tbh
Please make a sexy calendar that sounds hilarious
They shld have asked and not assumed they cld stay there
Ok how do I become a member cause I need more okop 😭
her parents contributed as well.
OP isn’t the Ahole… the in laws decided this without consulting or asking for permission. They just felt entitled to make it OPs problem. Regarding the increase in payment… I want to know how what they plan to pay compares to what OP and spouse would be earning otherwise. This could still be a financial hardship for them. If OP decides to let them stay there, they should have a contract which includes payment and a strict maximum end date, since entitled people can’t be trusted not to indefinitely extend their stay.
I could almost warrantee that sofia already did the fitting story
They should definitely do a contract with everything outlined
They can just squat. Contracts don't mean much when squatters have rights
I think the fact that they didn’t ask them but told them last minute is sus. If they pay maintenance they’re also using the property so that’s not the point. And because the couple uses it as a rental property, once the in-laws move in if they decide they want to stay after six months they would have to be evicted. The law would consider them tenets. I don’t think op is wrong because I think the rental property is there downsizing.
The mom with the "picky kids" just doesn't like her kids very much in my eyes lol. Like with the spaghetti issue - literally all she has to do is leave the fennel out and use gluten free spaghetti noodles. Is that really so hard? No, it's extremely easy. My 3 kids have food preferences too (as do I and almost every other human being), and if one of us doesnt like something I just leave it out of their (or my) portion. I dont mind spending 2 extra seconds to make sure everyone has a nourishing meal to eat and can go to bed with a full tummy. I really wonder how old her kids are too and if shes even taught them to cook? Because if they're like 8 and havent been taught how to prepare any meals then they'll just go to bed hungry which is messed up. Why even have kids if one of the most basic parts of motherhood (nurturing through feeding nourishing meals to your children) is too much for you? Look up some new recipes online that are easy to leave things out of, its pretty simple. OP just lacks creativity and problem solving skills. Not being able to solve the spaghetti thing itself is pretty comcerning, that was the easiest fix ever.
It was dad who stopped cooking.
How do you leave fennel out of premade Italian sausage?
@@msdouglas12100 it won’t kill you not to add Italian sausage. Or literally just buy a different kind
Thank you! I have some weird dietary issues I didn’t know about as a kid and got written off as “picky” I now have permanent damage to my intestines from my parents having the “you eat what I make or starve” approach where often I either did go without or forced down whatever they made. It pisses me off when parents act like their kids don’t have thoughts and feelings just like they do. I know not everyone will be my case but if you’re even willing to risk it you shouldn’t have kids. I literally can’t go more than a day without having issues keeping food down as a direct consequence of them not allowing me to have a say in dinner. It also makes me suspicious how op talks about the kid with Celiac, it sounds the same as how my mom talks about my issues (now diagnosed) and she constantly is holding it against me when she can’t make what she wants and expect me to eat it really has the “I know it’s not her fault BUT…” vibes
Story one- we are no contact with my in laws to no thank you
It's not hard to have a birth certificate and ss card reissued. They get lost sometimes
The OF "mom" / OP is 100% the AH.. like come on.. we have all been kids.. i could not imagine the torture that child is going through.. money means nothing if your job is an embarrassment to your family, ESPECIALLY YOUR CHILD. All the reports of self harm / self deletion due to the bullying these kids are going due to their "mothers" doing OF. It's sad, it's sick and it's selfish.