Oulton Park 'Foster's has a turn where I have to come down out of 4th to 3rd where I can feel this heal toe meathod would be used, cause my rear breaks loose without me getting the RPMs up to match the downshift. I'm just not good enough to do it yet. The alternative is getting down to 3rd before the turn and I lose so much momentum through the turn that way.
is it completing wrong to shift all the way down from gear 5 to say 2 and skip the in between ? i.e is it just a no no , or is correct downshifting more about getting extra performance.
It can be a bit risky. Let's say a hairpin turn takes you 160 mph all the way down 60mph, you can definitely downshift to match which gear should be used and skip the gears in-between. However, if you downshift too far, you risk destroying the gearbox (e.g money-shift). This is why practice laps are so important- it'll help you dial in when you can skip gears entirely, however you'll need to be a lot more tight on rev-matching.
Can you please tell me why in the pursuit of making the most realistic sim you decided it would be a good choice to fundamentally break how H pattens work. I am speaking specifically about the gear not beginning to disengage from the previous gear until its already in the next gear completely.
@@DhrakkBLS To be fair, it looks harder to do on crappy sim pedals than it is in real life. I heel toe all the time in my deal driver, but I would have a hard time on pedals with no pressure or feel
@RumRunner certain cars have a lock out you will find it isnt the braking that allows you too change but the speed coming down, its too stop you down shifting too early and damaging or blowing the engine so i believe
Do you mean whilst downshifting? If so it’s so that when you do downshift the revs will Match the engine speed. If not you’d stall the engine because the revs would be to low for the gear you’re shifting into.
@@AdzzVR It's not that that the engine will stall (more like the opposite), but that it will brake the driving axle. For a given speed, when you downshift the engine revs will have to go up. They will go up either if you blip the throttle or not. If you don't blip the throttle the power to increase the revs will come from the wheels, i. e. the wheels (the intertia of the car) via the transmission will suddenly force the engine to match the revolutions ratio of the new gear. The perceived effect is a sudden braking of the axle connected to the engine, and you don't want that when you just have applied the maximum possible braking with the pedal.
I use it to keep the car level, changing down too soon without a blip will cause the engine to over rev the car and cause the weight too transfer too a place you normally dont want it. I cant say im correct but its how it feels too me when racing and i have been for many years. I even find in sprint races no matter what car i drive if i blip on the downshift i have Way more control over the corner cornering, may bot be realistic but seems to work with almost ever car in iracing, but i did say sprint. In longer races you risk overheating the car so you need to use it as and when needed to suit each vehicle
I love the dry wit of these. Cold AF
engine braking is still totally a thing in many cars. try stopping the mazda mx5 while going into a corner with and without early downshifting
or classic ricky rudd style which is easier on street cars, heel the break and toe the throttle
Oulton Park 'Foster's has a turn where I have to come down out of 4th to 3rd where I can feel this heal toe meathod would be used, cause my rear breaks loose without me getting the RPMs up to match the downshift. I'm just not good enough to do it yet. The alternative is getting down to 3rd before the turn and I lose so much momentum through the turn that way.
is it completing wrong to shift all the way down from gear 5 to say 2 and skip the in between ? i.e is it just a no no , or is correct downshifting more about getting extra performance.
It can be a bit risky. Let's say a hairpin turn takes you 160 mph all the way down 60mph, you can definitely downshift to match which gear should be used and skip the gears in-between. However, if you downshift too far, you risk destroying the gearbox (e.g money-shift). This is why practice laps are so important- it'll help you dial in when you can skip gears entirely, however you'll need to be a lot more tight on rev-matching.
Can you please tell me why in the pursuit of making the most realistic sim you decided it would be a good choice to fundamentally break how H pattens work. I am speaking specifically about the gear not beginning to disengage from the previous gear until its already in the next gear completely.
I drive a stick irl and trying to get into iracing….this is shifting I’ve never even attempted….I’m gonna suck so bad when I first get started
Ive been playing racing games since i was 7. Ive never not sucked😂. Its why i never play online. My only goal is genuinely enjoying myself.
Most sim racing is done with paddle shifters. I love driving a stick an I even have a miata in real life but paddle shifters are much faster
Why is it that at 2:56, while he's doing the heel and toe , he's not fully on the clutch? I'm new to this heel and toe thing.
K Sadek I believe that once the revs match, you can shift without a clutch. I’m still learning Heel Toe as well :)
No he is just not good at heel and toe. ALWAYS push the clutch in 100% to avoid damage.
@@DhrakkBLS To be fair, it looks harder to do on crappy sim pedals than it is in real life. I heel toe all the time in my deal driver, but I would have a hard time on pedals with no pressure or feel
Who's the toolbag on the racing wheel that's wearing a collared dress shirt while sim racing? lol
Why do i have to tap the brake to downshift even tho I have a clutch??
@RumRunner certain cars have a lock out you will find it isnt the braking that allows you too change but the speed coming down, its too stop you down shifting too early and damaging or blowing the engine so i believe
Awesome!!! Thanks!!! 👍👍👍
Still don’t get the point of throttling between shifts.
Do you mean whilst downshifting? If so it’s so that when you do downshift the revs will Match the engine speed. If not you’d stall the engine because the revs would be to low for the gear you’re shifting into.
@@AdzzVR It's not that that the engine will stall (more like the opposite), but that it will brake the driving axle. For a given speed, when you downshift the engine revs will have to go up. They will go up either if you blip the throttle or not. If you don't blip the throttle the power to increase the revs will come from the wheels, i. e. the wheels (the intertia of the car) via the transmission will suddenly force the engine to match the revolutions ratio of the new gear. The perceived effect is a sudden braking of the axle connected to the engine, and you don't want that when you just have applied the maximum possible braking with the pedal.
@Jonas Jonaitis found this out driving the radical if you don't blip high enough from 3rd to 2nd etc. it won't engage gear at all.
I use it to keep the car level, changing down too soon without a blip will cause the engine to over rev the car and cause the weight too transfer too a place you normally dont want it. I cant say im correct but its how it feels too me when racing and i have been for many years. I even find in sprint races no matter what car i drive if i blip on the downshift i have Way more control over the corner cornering, may bot be realistic but seems to work with almost ever car in iracing, but i did say sprint. In longer races you risk overheating the car so you need to use it as and when needed to suit each vehicle
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Those Pumas the guy has ass 20 hp....