Broke is a mindset problem. Read "Creating Money" by Sanaya Roman. If too broke for a book, PFDs are out there. Open your mind or stay broke. There are people who confuse brokeness with virtue, but do you want their sympathy or even admiration? No human points won there unless it's part of your monk lifestyle of serving and helping.
My first mistake was thinking I could actually be competitive in league racing. I had these high hopes of achieving podiums on online races and even winning league races. The sad reality is after being addicted to sim racing for the last 7 months. I’ve come to terms that I’m mediocre at best. I don’t say anything to discourage or crush anyone’s dreams. Just try to be realistic, it’s a large world out there, and you’re not the only person out there looking to get paid for competing in sim racing leagues or getting a sponsorship for xyz company. In the last 7 months I’ve neglected my girlfriend, my job, the gym and most importantly my sleep/ rest for this addiction. Tread carefully and sim in moderation. Good luck out there.
Sim Racing is not a game for 40$/€, where a lot of ppl buy it and play it a bit, so that you have a lot of bad players you can compete with even if you are not so good. Sim Racing is expansive, so everyone who has invested a lot of money is serious about it. Even the "bad" ones are good. Its as if you are joining the F1 and expect to not get last. If you are mediocre, you are actually quite good. The middle of the Top 20% ppl is still Top 10%.
I am totally not great and my iRating on iRacing is around 800. But I got in my split some nice battles, I did join a league where I raced against guys with 2k iRating while I was the lowest one. But I never finished last as put my expectation on the lower side, but still... It was rewarding finishing these kind of races. I also did couple of months ago my first IMSA Michelin Pilot race on iRacing and finished in top 5, my best result in a longer stint race. And it was still rewarding as I finished my race. I always remember that even when I can be fast at certain points, there will always be faster guys. And as a sim racer, you pretty much race against the whole world, it's not that you are racing like in GT or F1 against the same guys so you never know how these guys will drive.
Thing is you've been playing for 7 months these ppl been playing for years you may feel like you've hit a barrier but you just gotta keep learning like you ain't gonna become god level of skill in less than a year nobody does Like aryton senna didn't just become good You just need to remember these games don't give you 100% feedback so you gotta use what ur given which can be annoying at times
A steady cockpit with no flex and ergonomics is better than having the most expensive wheel. A cheap wheel mounted right is way more important than how expensive it is.
That's the issue with RUclipsrs. They get a cheaper wheel and put it on a wobbly desk and sit on an office chair or foldable cockpit and complain about it. How about being fair and mount it on something solid like how their dd's are mounted. With the proper seating position and wheel and shifter.
I agree about the steady cockpit. I recently got a solid cockpit and mounted my Logitech G 923 on it and the difference between now and my desk chair setup is like day and night. On my first run I shaved 3 seconds on the track that I was driving on just before I made the switch.
Maybe to an extent but like with all of these upgrades it’s still possible to achieve the same performance. I was using a desk and chair with wheels for ages and got within 0.5 secs of the best times and after upgrading to a rig and pedals i find myself in a similar area maybe even slower. Personally I think what higher level equipment offers especially a direct drive wheel is faster learning and improvement as long as you can understand what the wheel is telling you
I'm sorry but I disagree with the idea that better gear doesn't make you quicker. While its true that if you just go out and buy the best of the best while never actually learning any technique you'll be just as bad, having certain parts of equipment like loadcell pedals (which you even say yourself; "Nothing will compare to the in-game performance jump you see from loadcell pedals") will always benefit you. Yes you can be as quick or quicker than someone with better gear, being comfortable using your setup and having a better feel will always eventually equate to a performance increase, and the only way to be comfortable and have a better feel is buy investing in your setup. Weather that's pedals a cockpit or a wheel base is up to you. Personally I used a g27 for years before recently buying a Fanatec DD. I replaced the original Logitech pedals early on with TLCM and both times I upgraded I managed to gain pace overall. However the largest advantage I gained was from investing in a cockpit. Only a cheapish one, a playset I got from FB Marketplace. But being in it, and having a fixed mount setup with minimal flex in addition to just being in a comfy sitting position defiantly helped my pace.
totally agree, if you are just starting out, and lets be honest, suck at the game. That won't help, but if you have trained and feel y9u ae going as fast a possible, but just can't be consistant, thats where better gear helps.
I see where both points are valid. Yes having a g29/g920 or similar is perfectly fine to start out and can even be used at the top level. However eventually upgrading will definitely gain an advantage if you have gotten the fundamental skills down. My experience of this is a more extreme case but I went from a thrustmaster T80 which had 180 degrees total steering angle, no Force feedback at all other than a rubberband to centre the wheel. If the wheel wasn't bad enough the pedals were atroucius, but I was still trying to progress through Iracing and I got up to D class with 1.6k Irating but Soon after I got a CSL DD 8Nm with the mclaren wheel and the thrustmater T-LCM pedals that have a loadcell brake and In my first lap in the mx-5 and F4's whilst figuring out my settings I beat my previous best by 2 seconds! My example as I said I pretty extreme but yes gear will definitely make a difference and the starting gear will ultimately decide how far the jump in experience and performance is.
This video was great, only thing i would add to it would be to not overload yourself with information on the screen, you already have enough to pay attention to without all the distractions of overlays detailing every piece of information. Sometimes its nice to turn everything off and just drive the car when learning a new track or just practicing.
I feel like a lot of people who would get into sim racing feel its too expensive or that you have to be some sort of god tier racer or whatever, all you really need to have fun is a decent wheel, some decent pedals, and a good screen... Just have fun, it's a video game, sure it's competitive but simracing ultimately exists so people can enjoy themselves doing what they love to do... go fast
I can confirm #2 and #3. i have logi G27 wheel wich is belt-drive yet! Just bought a fanatec V3 pedal last year. Just with that I jumped from top 40-50% to 15-25% in F1 TT mode without assists and relatively easily.
Just want to say I really appreciate these guides. I have not purchased any gear yet but am hoping to get into sim racing very soon. These guides will help me when I go to buy and not make “rookie” mistakes 😊
Mistake number 5 is for sure THE most important. Because in the end, when you will have a very good fight on the track, either if you lose or win, you'll love the battle itself when it's clean ^^
Not really, got my brother into iracing, he did it for a week on a g923, then upgraded to the logitech pro wheel and pedals and he isn't any faster at all, I still beat him easily with a g923 of my own. You can have the great equipment but if your shitty at driving, better stuff won't make you fast
The last one is so true, the only driving games I have is American truck simulator and Beamng, while they aren’t hardcore sims they are so enjoyable when you experience it with friends
@@adamm2716 fair, I would give it another go. do a game like beamng or forza horizon and just cruise to get used to it. going full blown right out of the gate isn't to good
Stop. take a week or two to get used to it. try watching youtube in VR at first. its a bit like getting used to being on a boat. Simrig in VR is something i could never go back to even the best triple monitor setup.
@Mystic_Chizu I love vr, but I think without a larger FOV, a triple monitor setup would still be better, no? Not mentioning the steep motion sickness "learning curve." I do wonder if a motion rig would help with the motion sickness, idk, make more sense to the brain.
Direct drive makes you better than with a belt driven when you reach a certain experience level. You get more information and it makes you more confident and it's easier to notice wheel slip and roadresistance, which makes you faster. Not a lot in short races, but everything counts and combined with a loadcellbrake it's easily a couple of seconds each lap, which is a lot in a 20 minutes race.
The last point is the most important one. How often i trained a car/track combination until i could not improve anymore before entering a race, just to get bumbed in the beginning of the race, until i really did not like to go racing anymore. Then i switched to fuck it. Just entered the races without a lot of training or no training at all if i already knew the car or track enough and had fun. If you get involed in an accident and cant continue, just enter the next race.
Better gear does make a difference. Moving to a dd wheelbase from belt driven, and moving to load cell pedals from potentiometer pedals improved my driving alot. I make way less mistakes, and i can feel the car on the slip angle with the high force dd, this allows me to be on the edge of grip all the time, and still never spinning the car. This was not possible for me with my belt driven wheel. The pedals made my braking way more consistent. Better gear does not give you skill, but it does give you the opportunity to use your skills. If i was to start as a beginner again, i would buy the better gear to start, and skip the market wheels.
I fell victim to a few of the point you said. If only i've seen this earlier. Like years into the pit running hardest brake resistance. Causing fatigue to my knee just simulating what the real world felt based on what i see from the internet. I believe your point will helps many out there. Good job.
I personally believe that you can develop your skills faster on a higher end sim rig, the end result might be the same but on one sim it might take a month and on an other 5 months😅. It last that was my experience with a ps 4 controller vs a Logitech g29
Even if the core statement in "better gear doesn't make you faster" is true, there are massive gains to be had in the lower price brackets, especially when you aren't a pro or don't have too much time. I switched from my G27 to a CSL DD and while I've had plenty of time over the years with the G27, since I've got the DD wheel with LC pedals, I've gotten less and less time to actually drive but still I'm getting faster and make way fewer mistakes because the better FFB helps me when driving on the edge and recovering corners that would have seen me spinning around with the G27.
If it was true that high end parts wouldn't make you faster then all epsorters/youtubers would be sitting with g29s 😂 high end loadcell pedals are known to make you brake better and therefore makes you faster. High end DD base will give you better precision so you can save those 0.1 seconds but the fundamental of this is that you need the skills to extract the benefits of high end parts.
I am super new @ simracing and was doing like my 4th mx5 cup race this morning on my oculus. I was in the sickest battle for 2nd for like 8 laps and I felt relaxed and locked in. But I realized that my heart was pounding when the race ended. So serious. It's been a dream forever. Spent all last weekend building a sim rig for my Moza bundle and loadcell mod pedals.
@@ASMCourtney I race on a desk with the Logitech g920 still stock and Rift S and did an arca Menards race yesterday me and 4th place were .001 seconds apart I almost took position in the last corner i was shaking afterwards but man was it the most incredible thing and also the entire race i was just right behind his bumper best race I've ever had and Moza is what I want to move to after I get all my fundamentals down
Great Video! About your first mistake, it is partially true about the gear, but my point is next: You have to know how to tune/set/configure your gear. FFB, excellent example. Many ppl get clipping on their bases, and they think it is broken. But knowing how to set it right, IS crucial.
@@evansprang9243 It's also a hostile takeover really. They pushed the stocks market cap down over €300 million. It's still a bit scary to make a big purchase now.
there is one gear upgrade that will make you significantly faster no matter what and that is going from wheel stand or desk setup to a cockpit, its a night and day difference. I could never brake super consistently with the wheel stand but with the cockpit its so much better.
I just disagree with the first point. the reason why NASCAR esport drivers can use Logitech wheels and be good is because you're driving in a circle and don't need 80 million newto metres of force
Just bought Moza R9 base and steering wheel and pedals unused from an R5 bundle. Thinking of getting a load cell eventually, but should probably buy a rig before that? I guess it's not so wise to have the load cell loose on the floor... 🤔
If the budget is tight, just build your own rig. Get some wood, slap it together and buy a seat on a scrap yard. It's a hella lot cheaper than even the cheapest rigs out there. And RUclips has a ton of vids on how to make one on the cheap. I built mine for less than $50
iRacing and Assetto Corsa for the mods are my go to. iRacing for the competitive side of things and AC with mods for the career mods and other cars I can just use to race AI or other people in online lobbies without worrying too much.
definetely does make you faster though, used a g920 and then upgraded to moza r9 with ks wheel and have gotten faster by almost 3-4 seconds on each track
My take is that you really don't need to be ultra competitive in the first place. Realise that racing skills, like all other skills are distributed on a Bell curve. You probably are mid and that's perfectly fine. You can get better with practice but don't expect miracles. If you don't enjoy the intrinsic act of driving then don't expect major returns from better gear. In fact the diminishing returns of really high end gear are really small. Worth it for a very niche crowd maybe but you can get 95% of the experience with entry level gear. People get really anal about this stuff and hyper gate keeper-y about what gear is supposed to be more realistic. But in the end all that matters is that you are enjoying yourself. If you are using a xbox controller and you are having a great time then that's 100% valid. The gear is totally optional and really only degenerate halfwits like myself spend serious cash on it. But if you happen to be in that miniscule group of highly skilled drivers who race for the big bucks then I guess every slight advantage gear can give you might be truly worth it. It becomes part of a meta game at this level. And even in this tier better does not necessarily mean more expensive. If the stuff you use works for you then that's all that matters. If you want to buy new stuff just try and go for gear that has a good reputation within your budget but don't feel the need to stretch it beyond your means. Don't buy shit like this on credit. It's a money sink that can get out of hand really fast. The second hand market is a testament to the broken dreams of many aspiring sim racers. It's also a good option to hunt for bargains.
I just bought G29 without a shifter and a half cockpit. I don't know how to drive yet. I was even slower than with a controller. It is really difficult
I agree with the gear sentiment. I bought a $1300 Fanatec- honestly I am no better than with the $550 Thrustmaster... In fact I was fastest with a PS5 controller in GT7.... So ....
in response to the first one, what about the fact that my Thrustmaster TMX doesn't have enough keyinds to adjust anything on the car? I can't even have a button for windshield wipers in ACC
I disagree with the first point . The pros who use the t150 (which I have ) most likely upgrade their pedals hence (spending more for better gear) as the the default pedals are just ass , and I’m sure they aren’t using the plastic weightless pedals in those championships. And also oval racing doesn’t need that much . When u talk about doing laps on Nurburgring on acc that’s when u notice that cheap gear sucks as I have that problem where I constantly either brake too much or too little as the base t150 pedals are atrocious hence the option to upgrade to the t3pm I think they are called (correct me as I know I’m wrong) which still leads into better gear making y faster from being more consistent as a result of the better gear
gotta disagree with the first point.. i have a thrustmaster t80 and i definitely think buying a wheel with force feedback will make me a better driver immediately
#2 should be : upgrade RIG before pedals. i upgrade pedals first but nowhere to mounth these without moving makes me using CLUTCH pedals as a brake ,until i get wheelstand even. so get wheelstand/rig before pedal upgrade. or if u know u can mount pedals somewhere it dosnt move.
I was gonna get better pedals but then my left paddle shifter on my ES wheel broke so. I have the SR-P hybrid load cell so it’s not like I had the lites, but still.
The last point is honetly one of the most important. Spending all the money to get into this amazing hobby but then getting burnt out will leave you questioning if it was a good idea to spend so much on something you no longer do or enjoy as much as before. It is important to have fun first or else the burn out is inevitable and will make you feel regret!
Personally the upgrade to load cell pedals made no difference to me, it is definitely possible to be accurate and consistent with cheap pedals. what helped me is using pedal overlays to build the muscle memory. Haven’t upgraded to direct drive yet but I’m interested to see if that makes a bigger difference which my logic makes me suspect that it will.
I need some advice. I’m not a big fan of driving games but I’ve always been intrigued with getting a rig set up. I don’t hate driving games. Just find them boring on controller. Should I try my luck and get a rig?
I would also add to do i lot of research before you buy anything, i.e watching reviews and if ur lucky enough try some gear in stores, events or friends house. For myself the biggest jump in my lap time but mostly my consistency was a chassis and pedals upgrade. Yes I agree that if you whale from the start with all the best gear it will not make you better but if you are sure that you will stick with the hobby, investing a little more will save you some money in the long run. I started a year ago and didnt know where I should put my money. I bought a wheel stand that I could hook my desk chair into. that was bad . your better off with a cheap dedicated chassis.
I’ve got a wheel stand, and I want some new pedals, currently I have the MOZA SR-P lite, I don’t know what to get, I don’t have thousands of dollars to spend on pedals, what should I get?
You must not like him much or you haven't tried better pedals for the price. Will Ford literally calls this the worst pedal choice..."CRP" missing an A.😂@@Hdawg187-ln4ww
I disagree with the idea that expensive sim gear doesn't make you a better driver it 100% does. I Sim race for fun and I've been doing it for about 4 months with a Logitech a desk and a Xbox one. My fastest time I was able to get around the nurburgring was a 7.30 but when I went to the real nurburgring ring and tried a simulator I did 7.00 and I was holding the car back so much 😂 that setup bought me 30s
If you play on xbox don't consider it. I have it and it has a 5° deadzone. If you play on pc if its the max your budget can handle yes. But if you can find it the TMX or the T150 Is the best starting wheel
How can I join a beginner friendly league/lobby? I’ve been sim racing for almost a year now and I still haven’t made a single friend to drive or race with and these lonely driver playlists are starting to feel.. lonely
@@Pushpaccs I’ve considered it but i cant justify it, ive thought about going for a Fanatec setup with the clubsport dd f1 bundle and v2 pedals for the compatibility and a cockpit like a gt omega prime lite or simlab gt1 evo
@@Pushpaccs what specs would be recommended for a pc tho, ive been looking at itx builds but i dont know if that can get enough power for a sim setup i would definitely want a build with triples too
@@Alejandro-le5nn I personally have a Ryzen 5 5600x and a 4060 I don’t have triples but I think I’d be able to run them if they were all 1080p monitors. A pc is a big hit to the wallet but it’s so worth it for sim racing/drifting you get a lot more options and variability with games
@@Pushpaccs I second this. I built a PC and got into sim racing. The choice of games is unrivalled. I've got more sim racers than I have time to play but it means I can pretty much drive any car on any track which is awesome
I need to Buy a new wheel as my g29 has started accelerating automatically when I’m of the pedal is it worth buying the gt dd pro from fanetec as that is 1 of the only direct drive wheel bases on the market? Any help would be appreciated
@OCRacing how about giving me a Playstation compatible Sim wheel and pedal set that you have siting on your shelf I would love to have a direct drive and load cell pedal set but for Playstation it way to expensive so share the love and bless me😊
I tried enjoying driving, instead I spend like $2k on a setup and yelled at someone who wrecked me. That's what most people are doing right? 😅 (sarcasm in case it was missed)
that you said is truth...partialy...as a ex Logitech driver i can say: as a beginner, with logitech gear you dont have a chance to win...sry but it is the raw truth. So dont get me wrong, it is possible to win but its realy hard...So if we take a 2 beginner driver of similar xp lvl , one with G29 and other with any DD drive, load cell pedals, the DD driver have a good advantage over the logitech driver and it will make him faster, more consistant, and his misstake range are set to much lower precent....however that doesnt a guarantor to win...sadly Logitech gears are not a good competent gear....
the first one is false. you cant drive with a 270 no ffb shitty chinese wheel, something with the ffb of a g29 is minimum. after that the curve is small but direct drive might make you slightly faster, though LOAD CELL PEDALS WILL MAKE YOU FASTER
Mistake no1:
Getting into Simracing(I am eternally broke)
This is mistake #0
This isn’t a mistake this is the hobby 😂
@@Octane_Overdrive nah it’s your life now
Getting into simracing is not a mistake, being broke is a mistake
Broke is a mindset problem. Read "Creating Money" by Sanaya Roman. If too broke for a book, PFDs are out there. Open your mind or stay broke. There are people who confuse brokeness with virtue, but do you want their sympathy or even admiration? No human points won there unless it's part of your monk lifestyle of serving and helping.
My first mistake was thinking I could actually be competitive in league racing. I had these high hopes of achieving podiums on online races and even winning league races. The sad reality is after being addicted to sim racing for the last 7 months. I’ve come to terms that I’m mediocre at best. I don’t say anything to discourage or crush anyone’s dreams. Just try to be realistic, it’s a large world out there, and you’re not the only person out there looking to get paid for competing in sim racing leagues or getting a sponsorship for xyz company.
In the last 7 months I’ve neglected my girlfriend, my job, the gym and most importantly my sleep/ rest for this addiction. Tread carefully and sim in moderation.
Good luck out there.
Sim Racing is not a game for 40$/€, where a lot of ppl buy it and play it a bit, so that you have a lot of bad players you can compete with even if you are not so good. Sim Racing is expansive, so everyone who has invested a lot of money is serious about it. Even the "bad" ones are good. Its as if you are joining the F1 and expect to not get last. If you are mediocre, you are actually quite good. The middle of the Top 20% ppl is still Top 10%.
I am totally not great and my iRating on iRacing is around 800. But I got in my split some nice battles, I did join a league where I raced against guys with 2k iRating while I was the lowest one. But I never finished last as put my expectation on the lower side, but still... It was rewarding finishing these kind of races. I also did couple of months ago my first IMSA Michelin Pilot race on iRacing and finished in top 5, my best result in a longer stint race. And it was still rewarding as I finished my race. I always remember that even when I can be fast at certain points, there will always be faster guys. And as a sim racer, you pretty much race against the whole world, it's not that you are racing like in GT or F1 against the same guys so you never know how these guys will drive.
Thing is you've been playing for 7 months these ppl been playing for years you may feel like you've hit a barrier but you just gotta keep learning like you ain't gonna become god level of skill in less than a year nobody does
Like aryton senna didn't just become good
You just need to remember these games don't give you 100% feedback so you gotta use what ur given which can be annoying at times
A steady cockpit with no flex and ergonomics is better than having the most expensive wheel. A cheap wheel mounted right is way more important than how expensive it is.
That's the issue with RUclipsrs. They get a cheaper wheel and put it on a wobbly desk and sit on an office chair or foldable cockpit and complain about it.
How about being fair and mount it on something solid like how their dd's are mounted. With the proper seating position and wheel and shifter.
Followed by setting up the force feedback correctly in games like Assetto Corsa.
I agree about the steady cockpit.
I recently got a solid cockpit and mounted my Logitech G 923 on it and the difference between now and my desk chair setup is like day and night.
On my first run I shaved 3 seconds on the track that I was driving on just before I made the switch.
Maybe to an extent but like with all of these upgrades it’s still possible to achieve the same performance. I was using a desk and chair with wheels for ages and got within 0.5 secs of the best times and after upgrading to a rig and pedals i find myself in a similar area maybe even slower. Personally I think what higher level equipment offers especially a direct drive wheel is faster learning and improvement as long as you can understand what the wheel is telling you
Me sitting in my foldable lawn chair playseat challenge and reading this xD
I'm sorry but I disagree with the idea that better gear doesn't make you quicker. While its true that if you just go out and buy the best of the best while never actually learning any technique you'll be just as bad, having certain parts of equipment like loadcell pedals (which you even say yourself; "Nothing will compare to the in-game performance jump you see from loadcell pedals") will always benefit you. Yes you can be as quick or quicker than someone with better gear, being comfortable using your setup and having a better feel will always eventually equate to a performance increase, and the only way to be comfortable and have a better feel is buy investing in your setup. Weather that's pedals a cockpit or a wheel base is up to you. Personally I used a g27 for years before recently buying a Fanatec DD. I replaced the original Logitech pedals early on with TLCM and both times I upgraded I managed to gain pace overall. However the largest advantage I gained was from investing in a cockpit. Only a cheapish one, a playset I got from FB Marketplace. But being in it, and having a fixed mount setup with minimal flex in addition to just being in a comfy sitting position defiantly helped my pace.
totally agree, if you are just starting out, and lets be honest, suck at the game. That won't help, but if you have trained and feel y9u ae going as fast a possible, but just can't be consistant, thats where better gear helps.
I see where both points are valid. Yes having a g29/g920 or similar is perfectly fine to start out and can even be used at the top level. However eventually upgrading will definitely gain an advantage if you have gotten the fundamental skills down. My experience of this is a more extreme case but I went from a thrustmaster T80 which had 180 degrees total steering angle, no Force feedback at all other than a rubberband to centre the wheel. If the wheel wasn't bad enough the pedals were atroucius, but I was still trying to progress through Iracing and I got up to D class with 1.6k Irating but Soon after I got a CSL DD 8Nm with the mclaren wheel and the thrustmater T-LCM pedals that have a loadcell brake and In my first lap in the mx-5 and F4's whilst figuring out my settings I beat my previous best by 2 seconds! My example as I said I pretty extreme but yes gear will definitely make a difference and the starting gear will ultimately decide how far the jump in experience and performance is.
I aint readin all that
@@MigglesmcDiggles fr
Ain’t no body asking yall to read it they provided info if you need it you need it if not mind ya business n stop hating
Love how you just cut to the chase 🤣👍
Can’t be out here wasting peoples time 😤😤
@@OCRacing broooooooooo that was a lc500 not an lfa :(
@@OCRacingim subbing just for this right here
This video was great, only thing i would add to it would be to not overload yourself with information on the screen, you already have enough to pay attention to without all the distractions of overlays detailing every piece of information. Sometimes its nice to turn everything off and just drive the car when learning a new track or just practicing.
I feel like a lot of people who would get into sim racing feel its too expensive or that you have to be some sort of god tier racer or whatever, all you really need to have fun is a decent wheel, some decent pedals, and a good screen... Just have fun, it's a video game, sure it's competitive but simracing ultimately exists so people can enjoy themselves doing what they love to do... go fast
I can confirm #2 and #3. i have logi G27 wheel wich is belt-drive yet! Just bought a fanatec V3 pedal last year. Just with that I jumped from top 40-50% to 15-25% in F1 TT mode without assists and relatively easily.
Just want to say I really appreciate these guides. I have not purchased any gear yet but am hoping to get into sim racing very soon. These guides will help me when I go to buy and not make “rookie” mistakes 😊
Mistake number 5 is for sure THE most important. Because in the end, when you will have a very good fight on the track, either if you lose or win, you'll love the battle itself when it's clean ^^
So from point 1 to 2… more money spent does in fact increase your performance. Got it
it does, but it also doesnt mean a good racer would perform bad with a cheaper setup
Not really, got my brother into iracing, he did it for a week on a g923, then upgraded to the logitech pro wheel and pedals and he isn't any faster at all, I still beat him easily with a g923 of my own. You can have the great equipment but if your shitty at driving, better stuff won't make you fast
I'm still getting used to the fact that Oscar is a person and not a disembodied voice LOL!!! Keep up the Amazing work Oscar!
This is hands down the best sim racing channel out there!!
You’re too kind 🙏🙏
The last one is so true, the only driving games I have is American truck simulator and Beamng, while they aren’t hardcore sims they are so enjoyable when you experience it with friends
setting up my vr headset got me so motion sick i don't even wanna touch my sim anymore, i just need to sell it
how much, for your gear I mean. and what gear do you have?
Yeah, driving games are the worst for vr motion sickness. But I wouldn't get rid of the vr headset, there are some awesome vr games out there
@@adamm2716 fair, I would give it another go. do a game like beamng or forza horizon and just cruise to get used to it. going full blown right out of the gate isn't to good
Stop. take a week or two to get used to it. try watching youtube in VR at first. its a bit like getting used to being on a boat.
Simrig in VR is something i could never go back to even the best triple monitor setup.
@Mystic_Chizu I love vr, but I think without a larger FOV, a triple monitor setup would still be better, no? Not mentioning the steep motion sickness "learning curve." I do wonder if a motion rig would help with the motion sickness, idk, make more sense to the brain.
Direct drive makes you better than with a belt driven when you reach a certain experience level. You get more information and it makes you more confident and it's easier to notice wheel slip and roadresistance, which makes you faster. Not a lot in short races, but everything counts and combined with a loadcellbrake it's easily a couple of seconds each lap, which is a lot in a 20 minutes race.
The last point is the most important one. How often i trained a car/track combination until i could not improve anymore before entering a race, just to get bumbed in the beginning of the race, until i really did not like to go racing anymore. Then i switched to fuck it. Just entered the races without a lot of training or no training at all if i already knew the car or track enough and had fun. If you get involed in an accident and cant continue, just enter the next race.
Better gear does make a difference. Moving to a dd wheelbase from belt driven, and moving to load cell pedals from potentiometer pedals improved my driving alot. I make way less mistakes, and i can feel the car on the slip angle with the high force dd, this allows me to be on the edge of grip all the time, and still never spinning the car. This was not possible for me with my belt driven wheel. The pedals made my braking way more consistent. Better gear does not give you skill, but it does give you the opportunity to use your skills. If i was to start as a beginner again, i would buy the better gear to start, and skip the market wheels.
I fell victim to a few of the point you said. If only i've seen this earlier. Like years into the pit running hardest brake resistance. Causing fatigue to my knee just simulating what the real world felt based on what i see from the internet. I believe your point will helps many out there. Good job.
I personally believe that you can develop your skills faster on a higher end sim rig, the end result might be the same but on one sim it might take a month and on an other 5 months😅. It last that was my experience with a ps 4 controller vs a Logitech g29
Even if the core statement in "better gear doesn't make you faster" is true, there are massive gains to be had in the lower price brackets, especially when you aren't a pro or don't have too much time. I switched from my G27 to a CSL DD and while I've had plenty of time over the years with the G27, since I've got the DD wheel with LC pedals, I've gotten less and less time to actually drive but still I'm getting faster and make way fewer mistakes because the better FFB helps me when driving on the edge and recovering corners that would have seen me spinning around with the G27.
If it was true that high end parts wouldn't make you faster then all epsorters/youtubers would be sitting with g29s 😂 high end loadcell pedals are known to make you brake better and therefore makes you faster. High end DD base will give you better precision so you can save those 0.1 seconds but the fundamental of this is that you need the skills to extract the benefits of high end parts.
i love how this man says hop in vr having a relaxing drive meanwhile im over here in iracing vr with a bpm of through the roof lol
I am super new @ simracing and was doing like my 4th mx5 cup race this morning on my oculus.
I was in the sickest battle for 2nd for like 8 laps and I felt relaxed and locked in.
But I realized that my heart was pounding when the race ended.
So serious.
It's been a dream forever.
Spent all last weekend building a sim rig for my Moza bundle and loadcell mod pedals.
@@ASMCourtney I race on a desk with the Logitech g920 still stock and Rift S and did an arca Menards race yesterday me and 4th place were .001 seconds apart I almost took position in the last corner i was shaking afterwards but man was it the most incredible thing and also the entire race i was just right behind his bumper best race I've ever had and Moza is what I want to move to after I get all my fundamentals down
Great Video! About your first mistake, it is partially true about the gear, but my point is next: You have to know how to tune/set/configure your gear. FFB, excellent example. Many ppl get clipping on their bases, and they think it is broken. But knowing how to set it right, IS crucial.
You’re the fucking man, Oscar. ❤
Mitch the 🐐
VERY solid advice. Especially on the brake info; really hope people listen to this video :p
With the Fanatec bankruptcy situation you may need to make a pt.2 for this video on avoiding that certain company haha. Cheers.
It's not bankruptcy, it's insolvency of their parents company, it is simply a cry for help nothing will happen for a while
@@evansprang9243 It's also a hostile takeover really. They pushed the stocks market cap down over €300 million. It's still a bit scary to make a big purchase now.
Great list (#1 especially...), we all make these mistakes and it's nice to be reminded of them from time to time. Well done as always Oscar!
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed :)
i 100% agree with mistake no.1
What about the others? 😳
there is one gear upgrade that will make you significantly faster no matter what and that is going from wheel stand or desk setup to a cockpit, its a night and day difference. I could never brake super consistently with the wheel stand but with the cockpit its so much better.
These are always such high-quality videos. Thanks.
I just disagree with the first point. the reason why NASCAR esport drivers can use Logitech wheels and be good is because you're driving in a circle and don't need 80 million newto metres of force
might as well use keyboard lmao
Just bought Moza R9 base and steering wheel and pedals unused from an R5 bundle.
Thinking of getting a load cell eventually, but should probably buy a rig before that? I guess it's not so wise to have the load cell loose on the floor... 🤔
Load cell on the floor = Load cell pushed one way, you pushed the other and no braking happening that day.
If the budget is tight, just build your own rig. Get some wood, slap it together and buy a seat on a scrap yard. It's a hella lot cheaper than even the cheapest rigs out there. And RUclips has a ton of vids on how to make one on the cheap. I built mine for less than $50
The most expensive thing on this hobby is time in my opinion. Thats the hardest to get personally 😅
iRacing and Assetto Corsa for the mods are my go to. iRacing for the competitive side of things and AC with mods for the career mods and other cars I can just use to race AI or other people in online lobbies without worrying too much.
about mistake 2: remember to have somekoind of proper platform for those pedals so you can actually use them
Some quality tips here! Thanks for the great content, OC Racing!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it:)
definetely does make you faster though, used a g920 and then upgraded to moza r9 with ks wheel and have gotten faster by almost 3-4 seconds on each track
It helps if you have low end gear. but upgrading from anything higher than that wont help your skill
My take is that you really don't need to be ultra competitive in the first place. Realise that racing skills, like all other skills are distributed on a Bell curve. You probably are mid and that's perfectly fine. You can get better with practice but don't expect miracles. If you don't enjoy the intrinsic act of driving then don't expect major returns from better gear. In fact the diminishing returns of really high end gear are really small. Worth it for a very niche crowd maybe but you can get 95% of the experience with entry level gear.
People get really anal about this stuff and hyper gate keeper-y about what gear is supposed to be more realistic. But in the end all that matters is that you are enjoying yourself. If you are using a xbox controller and you are having a great time then that's 100% valid. The gear is totally optional and really only degenerate halfwits like myself spend serious cash on it.
But if you happen to be in that miniscule group of highly skilled drivers who race for the big bucks then I guess every slight advantage gear can give you might be truly worth it. It becomes part of a meta game at this level. And even in this tier better does not necessarily mean more expensive.
If the stuff you use works for you then that's all that matters. If you want to buy new stuff just try and go for gear that has a good reputation within your budget but don't feel the need to stretch it beyond your means. Don't buy shit like this on credit. It's a money sink that can get out of hand really fast. The second hand market is a testament to the broken dreams of many aspiring sim racers. It's also a good option to hunt for bargains.
4:45 "So don't be silly" 😅
i just wish i had a (better) more quite wheel base, the g29 is literally known for being loud and it ruins the experience for me :(
I just bought G29 without a shifter and a half cockpit. I don't know how to drive yet. I was even slower than with a controller. It is really difficult
I agree with the gear sentiment. I bought a $1300 Fanatec- honestly I am no better than with the $550 Thrustmaster... In fact I was fastest with a PS5 controller in GT7.... So ....
in response to the first one, what about the fact that my Thrustmaster TMX doesn't have enough keyinds to adjust anything on the car? I can't even have a button for windshield wipers in ACC
I disagree with the first point . The pros who use the t150 (which I have ) most likely upgrade their pedals hence (spending more for better gear) as the the default pedals are just ass , and I’m sure they aren’t using the plastic weightless pedals in those championships. And also oval racing doesn’t need that much . When u talk about doing laps on Nurburgring on acc that’s when u notice that cheap gear sucks as I have that problem where I constantly either brake too much or too little as the base t150 pedals are atrocious hence the option to upgrade to the t3pm I think they are called (correct me as I know I’m wrong) which still leads into better gear making y faster from being more consistent as a result of the better gear
"A cheap wheel is enough" also "put sim hub on a fourth monitor on top of the triple stack" 🤣
gotta disagree with the first point.. i have a thrustmaster t80 and i definitely think buying a wheel with force feedback will make me a better driver immediately
#2 should be : upgrade RIG before pedals. i upgrade pedals first but nowhere to mounth these without moving makes me using CLUTCH pedals as a brake ,until i get wheelstand even. so get wheelstand/rig before pedal upgrade. or if u know u can mount pedals somewhere it dosnt move.
I am about to get my first dd setup. Does the moza r9 and is wheel along with the simagic p1000 pedals sound good?
jeez im here already 😂
I expect nothing less 😤
Let’s just say I did all of these.. Good vid oc!
Better gear -> More immersion -> You'll enjoy it more -> You'll be faster.
It's really that simple.
Not a substitute for skill
@@LegendGaming-kt5pu Good luck learning the "skill" on a shitty Logitech G29 and non loadcell pedals.
@@viktoytubeif u got a few thousand bucks to give away id gladly buy better gear since its so simple
@@had2lyk That's not my problem.
@@viktoytube figured u would say that😂
I was gonna get better pedals but then my left paddle shifter on my ES wheel broke so. I have the SR-P hybrid load cell so it’s not like I had the lites, but still.
I think the #1 mistake isnt having a SimShield to protect the wheel of choice.
How did you miss that? Lol 15 lashings
The last point is honetly one of the most important. Spending all the money to get into this amazing hobby but then getting burnt out will leave you questioning if it was a good idea to spend so much on something you no longer do or enjoy as much as before. It is important to have fun first or else the burn out is inevitable and will make you feel regret!
Personally the upgrade to load cell pedals made no difference to me, it is definitely possible to be accurate and consistent with cheap pedals. what helped me is using pedal overlays to build the muscle memory. Haven’t upgraded to direct drive yet but I’m interested to see if that makes a bigger difference which my logic makes me suspect that it will.
Hey, I recently saw the PXN v99 came out and I was wondering if you thought it was a good deal and you would make a video on it
I need some advice. I’m not a big fan of driving games but I’ve always been intrigued with getting a rig set up. I don’t hate driving games. Just find them boring on controller. Should I try my luck and get a rig?
even using a controller, you can beat a steering wheel user with lack of racing games experience
I would also add to do i lot of research before you buy anything, i.e watching reviews and if ur lucky enough try some gear in stores, events or friends house. For myself the biggest jump in my lap time but mostly my consistency was a chassis and pedals upgrade. Yes I agree that if you whale from the start with all the best gear it will not make you better but if you are sure that you will stick with the hobby, investing a little more will save you some money in the long run. I started a year ago and didnt know where I should put my money. I bought a wheel stand that I could hook my desk chair into. that was bad . your better off with a cheap dedicated chassis.
In the next video, wear a racing suit.
I think I’d pass out from the heat 🤣
Great video. Thanks!
I’ve got a wheel stand, and I want some new pedals, currently I have the MOZA SR-P lite, I don’t know what to get, I don’t have thousands of dollars to spend on pedals, what should I get?
MOZA CR-P pedals [get the clutch]
You must not like him much or you haven't tried better pedals for the price. Will Ford literally calls this the worst pedal choice..."CRP" missing an A.😂@@Hdawg187-ln4ww
Which steering will work with Mac.I am thinking moza r5,fanatec csl dd
Best lesson I can give is if you can not win a race against ai unless you crash them.... DO not race on line
I disagree with the idea that expensive sim gear doesn't make you a better driver it 100% does. I Sim race for fun and I've been doing it for about 4 months with a Logitech a desk and a Xbox one. My fastest time I was able to get around the nurburgring was a 7.30 but when I went to the real nurburgring ring and tried a simulator I did 7.00 and I was holding the car back so much 😂 that setup bought me 30s
I’m racing using a phone connected to my computer as a steering wheel… I think better gear will help XD
Wait. Ive been under a rock..when did bro do a face reveal?!
Should I get the pxn v900?
It does not have force feedback
If you play on xbox don't consider it. I have it and it has a 5° deadzone. If you play on pc if its the max your budget can handle yes. But if you can find it the TMX or the T150 Is the best starting wheel
@@jagmodyoutube4264@yazikhodayar I ended up getting the fanatec t-248-p
This is my my first time seeing your face or what???! 🎉🎉🎉
7:19 that's a LC500 not a LFA
Better equipment will 100% make you a better racer.
How can I join a beginner friendly league/lobby? I’ve been sim racing for almost a year now and I still haven’t made a single friend to drive or race with and these lonely driver playlists are starting to feel.. lonely
one of the best natural body builders
Gran turismo controler players be like:can i throw it out the window
Any suggestions for ps5 sim gear? Ideally somewhere around $2,000-2,500 between rig and equipment
Get a pc first trust
@@Pushpaccs I’ve considered it but i cant justify it, ive thought about going for a Fanatec setup with the clubsport dd f1 bundle and v2 pedals for the compatibility and a cockpit like a gt omega prime lite or simlab gt1 evo
@@Pushpaccs what specs would be recommended for a pc tho, ive been looking at itx builds but i dont know if that can get enough power for a sim setup i would definitely want a build with triples too
@@Alejandro-le5nn I personally have a Ryzen 5 5600x and a 4060 I don’t have triples but I think I’d be able to run them if they were all 1080p monitors. A pc is a big hit to the wallet but it’s so worth it for sim racing/drifting you get a lot more options and variability with games
@@Pushpaccs I second this. I built a PC and got into sim racing. The choice of games is unrivalled. I've got more sim racers than I have time to play but it means I can pretty much drive any car on any track which is awesome
I am mistake number 6
🤣
I need to Buy a new wheel as my g29 has started accelerating automatically when I’m of the pedal is it worth buying the gt dd pro from fanetec as that is 1 of the only direct drive wheel bases on the market? Any help would be appreciated
I real wish I could do everything I wanted to do in the sim😢
would a csl dd fanatec bundle be a good starter (around 800 AUD)
Yes 👍
Nice video
I disagree with number 1: RGB make me go fast.. vroom
Same
very nice
Is there a small monitor i can get for simhub/ data one that works with pc and console
@OCRacing how about giving me a Playstation compatible Sim wheel and pedal set that you have siting on your shelf I would love to have a direct drive and load cell pedal set but for Playstation it way to expensive so share the love and bless me😊
Where is ticket dude?
Wait omg I just realized he isn’t here… 😳
🎉
What are we celebrating?
Every facecam shot is missed chance to include something useful. I really dislike when channels start to do that after not doing it.
Explain further with some examples
When Pxn V99 review?
Sooner than you think
@@OCRacing you said that 3 days ago
oc!
The honorable is for you: 🥇
@@OCRacing yayyy
@@OCRacing i just hit 1k
What about is it bad that i use traction control and abs
I tried enjoying driving, instead I spend like $2k on a setup and yelled at someone who wrecked me. That's what most people are doing right? 😅 (sarcasm in case it was missed)
at 7:04 what game is this with the lexus????
that you said is truth...partialy...as a ex Logitech driver i can say: as a beginner, with logitech gear you dont have a chance to win...sry but it is the raw truth. So dont get me wrong, it is possible to win but its realy hard...So if we take a 2 beginner driver of similar xp lvl , one with G29 and other with any DD drive, load cell pedals, the DD driver have a good advantage over the logitech driver and it will make him faster, more consistant, and his misstake range are set to much lower precent....however that doesnt a guarantor to win...sadly Logitech gears are not a good competent gear....
the first one is false. you cant drive with a 270 no ffb shitty chinese wheel, something with the ffb of a g29 is minimum. after that the curve is small but direct drive might make you slightly faster, though LOAD CELL PEDALS WILL MAKE YOU FASTER
You've never driven with a 270 no ffb shitty chinese wheel have you?
one of the biggest challenges i have is finding a game apart from iracing that has full lobbies
why is my wheel in the thumbnail
W video
Please make your videos longer
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