Reacting To Joe Rogan's $70,000 Sim Rig
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This was a "Charge a Celeb out the ass, because they have the money" build.
Well... the celeb got what wanted... the bragging rights... ain´t it all what matters...
I feel like the rig is mainly for his friends to come use lol. But 70k is nothing to Joe.
I keep pausing to come here and say how stupid this build is, and then I unpause it and they some other ridiculous BS.
15-20 hours to run wires? What wires? 15-20 hours you could do custom wiring in an actual car to make it actually work. Did they create the literal copper to make the wires? 3 hours to run each wire to where it plugs in? It's not possible to spend 20 hours to wire a sim rig, this video is a joke.
Oh sorry, I forgot they're the "worlds leader" in sim building.
@@Hardcasltewiring a race car or old car maybe. Modern cars, would take much longer than that lol. But yes, they don’t need 15 hours for a sim rig
the labour and expertise is worth what a customer is willing to pay, he could have bought one of their pre-set systems but wanted to pay the extra for these slight differences.. is it worth it to you and me? hell no but to this customer it clearly is
To me, the verbiage or words used to describe the reasoning for the high components was very much marketing buzzwords without any understanding of how a computer works. Also, the surround speakers being covered by the monitors is the icing on the cake for me.
its the typical sell-more culture from the us for me
If they knew what they were doing they would have put an X3D AMD CPU in that thing.
Much better with (0,)1% lows, less FPS fluctuations.
and the subwoofer facing away from the seat was another bit i found interesting...
@@ugn669to give them the benefit of the doubt subs do radiate sound 360° and the rig may be set close to the wall during final installation so the speaker pointing that way won't be a problemand may even be beneficial. Having it on the same shelf with a PC with all the vibrations generated by it is dumb though. If you don't believe that subs radiate sound all around them check out TM Array used for Metallica's concerts. A system engineer from Meyer Sound designed a subwoofer array where the audience sees only the back of the subwoofers but sonically it just works and it works better than most people thought it would.
@@BeetjeVreemd and its waaaay cooler,honestly i dont get why people use latest intel procesors for gaming when there are 20 useless cores, its slowe because it runs hot,more expensive and non existent power efficiency makes your whole system 20 degrees hotter. And thats coming from dude that used intel forever.
Joe Rogan got the sim rig equivalent of an Alienware
I can't believe he would do that
hey, as long as they paid him, it's all good.
Yeah Asetek is Alienware. Sleezy, grimy , shitty company
@@jeronimo196no, Rogan paid them 70k
@@genie3531 Let me preface this by making it absolutely clear that I'm not a fan of Mr.Rogan.
That said, do You actually know that he paid anything, let alone 70$k for this ? Or are You taking it from this video (or some other "rumour mill")?
Now I'm not "knocking You", I'm just pointing out that the fact that this guy says that "it's for Mr.Rogan" and that "it's 70$k" in no way means that he paid that amount for it !!
For all we know, Mr.Rogan might have a deal with this "manufacturer", meaning that they paid him, Or that that he just paid a small part of the sum, for letting them "use his name and likeness while promoting their company"... I'm just saying :)
Best regargds.
I built Air Traffic Control Simulators for the FAA and militaries and schools. These guys are overselling so damn hard on their "tedious" efforts jeezahs.
that was immediately obvious. whatever justifies their own massively inflated paycheque (they can't)
Yeah, each monitor has a power and video cord. These guys are acting like they wired a telecom handoff.
@@samuraiguy0000 i know, it's a fucking joke
@@samuraiguy0000 These guys are scammers, just like Joe
all in the hardware costs 37k excluding the seat and porsche wheel they probably got on promo. So what tf are they charging 33k for haha.
then they crawl all over the internet defending themselves against anyone that calls them out
Rogan doesn't even have a motivational whiteboard for 70k? Pfff, amateur.
Google stopped making the Jam Board IIRC lmao
porche gray board
another thing is 70 grand for a triple monitor setup with BEZELS?!?!
I was thinking that too, my triple monitor setup at home (just msi 27inch 1440p panels) has a bezel free kit lol.
@@AllanRobinson13bA bezel free kit would be nice considering the monitors are $2k each.
I think they're crappy old LCD tech too! I mean they're calling them "LED" or "QLED" or whatever now to fool people who don't know better, but LCD is crap no matter how many little backlights you put behind them.
To be fair 70K is like 5 bucks to him. If somebody shows him something better he'll just bin it and get a new one.
the no bezel kit only work for upto 27inch monitors (i know it might fit 32inch too) so thats why there is no bezel kit
They saw him coming from a mile away. Military grade overcharging.
I'd want an Active pedal for the clutch too. Only way you can simulate the bite point.
Also, subwoofers go on the floor.
Bruh I was thinking this as well, they also have the speakers pointed at the back of the monitors 🤮
Fully, I think they should simply have gone with 3 Simucube pedals - and at worst the throttle should be their "cheap" one). But I guess it'd eat into the ~$40K profit margin.
Ultimates are awesome and all, speaking as a Sprints owner - but not for this kind of budget.
Not getting 3 active pedals for $70k might be the most ridiculous part of the build.
I saw the subwoofer hanging six feet off the floor and laughed. perfect encapsulation of how full of shit they are.
That's an ad, Joe is the one charging.
13:44 "Motion rigs.. they're up and down."
Perfect!
They’ve rinsed him dry with that lol
$70k to someone with $100,000,000 like Joe Rogan (he has more than that…) is like $70 to a person who has $100k
Hardly rinsing him dry, should have charged more 😂
This just in, stoner with large amount of money makes bad financial decisions
@@MattieSinclair Are you talking about the same guy who made a financial deal with Spotify for +200 million dollars?
@@ecyor_you are whats wrong with our society today
@@zachwilson2613 and you’re a fuckin clown. I’m what’s wrong with society because I made a joke about a multi-hundred-millionaire not being ‘rinsed dry’ by a $70k purchase?
What are you so upset about? You’re mad that I’m not upset Joe overpaid? Try to make it make sense bc right now it seems like all that dirt from Joe’s boots got you thinking silly
I just thought it was a tad silly they said they charged however many thousand of dollars to powder coat it a porsche sampled paint and decide on silver when the extrusions are already so similar with no coating
i wouldve never guessed there was a coating if they didnt mention it lol
I think it is silly to do that when Joe didn't even ask for it,.. like how much head room do they have in their pricing. it wouldn't of been cheap to get them sprayed.
@@manicgamingguy6161 it’s probably like being a salesman selling someone rich a 100k car. Might as well tack on the leather polish and window cleaning protection for an extra couple grand when the owner won’t look twice at it
They probably didn't even do it but are just talking out their asses like salesmen.
Also they showed a car and said it was Joes.. the car was black, So surly you would do it that colour. some thing fishy going on maybe. @@Mawding
6:50 I love that message Jimmy. That's exactly how it should be. Im very happy you're an advocate for a lot of us and always do your best to make it accessible to everyone.
100% agree!!
I subscribed because of it ❤
I spent 50 dollars to pull a seat out of an old Sentra at a junkyard and another 10-20 dollars to clean/disinfect it. Incredibly comfortable and has all the positioning mechanisms to slide forward and back and tilt the back.
idk but I instantly got the scammy vibe from those guys, as nice as it is that is not worth 70k, also there is no way theyre pushing stable 120fps on three 4K monitors even with 4090
Id assume they mean driving by yourself which isn’t that hard to do. The big thing with sim racing isn’t the gpu, it’s the cpu.
They pair the 4090 with a i9 13gen, why not a amd 3d proc why...
@@josephbargo5024 if we talking about 3x 4k 120 then its both gpu and cpu and its not real even with this card, even nvidia doesnt belive it can do it since they only used display port 1.4 and everything is shifting towards upscaling and frame generation. And almost none of the sim games uses these technologies.
@@gzaos because this pc even serves as heater lol
@@djeezy808 yeah but most pros with high end systems run low settings anyway. Not sure how that would run, but my point was gpu isn’t the bottleneck for frame rate in real sim races
Sure hope those irl carbon seats make your virtual racing car lighter
😂😂😂😂
I mean, in a motion rig, the lighter the rig, the more movement you end up getting, so technically, there is a reason for it. I think.
So clearly u didn’t listen a any point in this vid
@@Obi-WanKannabisi have motion. switching to a light weight carbon seat makes your motion less stressed, and smoother.
@jamesowens1612 agreed, a lighter seat is more better in a motion rig. A carbon or aluminium bucket shell is suitable, for example a real racing bucket like a Kirkey works great - they are surprisingly affordable, very light and strong, and ideal for attaching haptic transducers to. Their padding is customizable, and removable for cleaning. Almost perfect, but you can't really adjust the seat back angle...which is also the case for most all racing buckets. So get it right when you order or buy.
i hav motion, and its impractical to have the monitors attached to the rig so it can all move together. you have to do an insane amount of reinforcing to stop them from shaking. The horizon in real life does not move, when the motion isnt exaggerated the screens are fine being static
Yeah I don't see those Samsungs on a motion platform ever. Better to leave as is, and maybe also add VR to the mix. A Pimax Crystal would have scratched their wild profit margins somewhat, I guess.
i bought some sprint pedals from a guy on marketplace. Drove to his house to try them out as he had a second set on his motion rig. the monitors were mounted to the motion rig and were shaking so bad i had to ask him to turn the motion off.
There's a sim place in town that has motion rigs. I wasn't taken out of the experience by having the monitors free standing while the seat and wheel moved. And I agree, there's no way I'd want my monitors being shaken to death either.
@@TakeN0tes1293 that's bloody hilarious hahah I couldn't imagine installing monitors on my dbox.
Is it possible to have huge static mounted monitors separate from rig but have the video card simulating movement synced with rig? So that the picture scrolls up/down/sideways within the monitors?
I do a lot of freight shipping for work. My guess is a considerable amount of that price tag is going to the shipping and installation of that kit. That setup probably weights a ton. Yeah, they put it together in their warehouse, but that all has to be disassembled, packaged, shipping, unpacked, and installed.
Not defending the price tag, but they're probably inflating it for clicks.
Agreed, and as it was said in the video: The time that´s put into the cable-management alone is insane. There´s a reason why I never spent time on even trying, as long as I get in out of my seat without killing myself (or something cabled).
@CatToaster if they werent lying about it, then yes id agree... but...
@@Wouldpkr what exactly are we lying about? Lol.
the time invested in "cabling" at the very least "lol ollol"@@podium1racing
What exactly are you telling the truth about? @@podium1racing
Thrustmaster flight controls on a $70k rig? Lmao.
the Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas is actually very high quality!
That shit is not cheap
@@Hinterhof-qx5ql It really isn't. A metal shell over crap components.
@@tom.m100% this. It's also purpose built for the A-10 so it needs to be modded (read: Broken) in order to be used for anything else...also...70k for a rig that also becomes a flight sim rig and the first thing they fly is a helo.........with the TM Warthog....
the pure amount of facepalming throughout this video is astounding.
At least they didn't use the Logitech/Saitek yoke.
I really do like how this Jimmy reassures a lot of sim drivers and people who want to get into sim driving that you don't need to spend 5 figures for a sim and that you can get into for way cheaper and sometimes better! Not to say the sim isn't cool, it is, it's just seems like the money could have been spent elsewhere.
You absolutely don't. This is also why we sell individual items day in and day out to people all over. We all started with small builds to get into sim racing and you definitely do NOT need a massive rig with the best gear to be a good driver....
I used a g923 with a single screen for a long time..
I have a 2500 dollar pit that I love to bits. Sure, I don't have full motion, but I also don't live in a mansion or own my own large house, so that's out of the question anyways. I raced with a FAR CHEAPER setup than 2500 for the longest time. 2500 bucks gets you a pit that truly feels like a luxury item already. I have all the top of the line thrustmaster stuff in a playseat trophy, and I feel like a king in that thing.
If you're a VR racer, 2500 bucks gets you a really really nice setup cause you have no need for a screen. If you don't do VR you can get a good 120fps ultra wide for not a lot of money these days.
There has never been a better time to be a sim racer. The DD wheels we get today are so god damn good compared to the stuff we used to drive with back in the day.. My first wheel had a centering elastic... No force feedback, just a literal elastic band inside the wheel that pulled it back to center.. Had the time of my life with that thing. To think that we get a DD wheel for just over 3x the price of the plastic toy-ass wheel I got in the 90s is NUTS. Absolutely insane.
Whatever budget you have, you're going to get a super awesome cockpit compared to the super high end stuff of 2005. It's a fantastic time to be a racing gamer/simmer. We have it better than we realize most of the time. It's a golden era right now whether we understand it or not.
@@JimmyNuisance amen
Agree on most points made. In fairness, there aren't a lot of rigs where the monitors move with the rig itself. Adding the weight of three 55" displays to the motion right would cost a lot more in engineering the right supports, stiffness, and ensuring the motion system had enough power to move all those displays dynamically. As a flightsim guy as well, I appreciate the ability to use the rig for dual purpose.
Joe Rogan: Yeah iRacing is cool but have you tried Monza on DMT?!"
Jamie, pull that Juan Pablo Montoya Monza lap
ROGAN: Thars crazy man, have you tried winning the race on the first corner?
Even with the pc and people working on it, I would argue that 30k would be already quite much for it. There's like 15-20k of hardware there, unless I'm missing something even with the work put in 70k seems outrageous.
"Once you've made that money, it costs more now"
Axl Rose - Pretty Tied Up.
It's about 40k parts.
@@mementomori4972 Hows that 40k in parts bro. Are you really telling me a rig costs 70k and doesnt even have the highest end hardware available? I mean there are better wheelbases, wheels with qualities that this collection doesnt offer, you could have 3 active pedals and not just one. Honestly not having the highest end of everything is a complete joke. I mean Joe wont care, he doesnt know, probably doesnt know somebody who knows that he is massively overpaying.
@@Xzibitfreek Well what can I tell you, I don't say that you can't build a similar rig for less but it is legitimately about $40K in parts. Lets see. The motion system is $9k, the seat is about $5k, the monitors are $9K, the H-pattern shifter is $2k. The active brake pedal is $2.5K, The other pedals and the fly sim stuff is about $1K, The PC is $3.5K. Then you have the wheelbase with four different wheels, which is about $5K. Then you have the aluminum profile rig and monitor stand plus custom mounts, the handbrake, the sound system, cables LEDs and other peripherals,...so yeah it's about $40K plus/minus
Sorry guys, they gotta pay for the labor and overhead.
70k and they couldnt afford Kef powered speakers XD
70k and they didnt have full surround speakers for this man. I know it is supposed to be an enclosed unit with everything on it, but with that kind of coin, full surround, even with Bluetooth surround would have been nice.
@@charliemaybe yea that's crazy. I would be embarrased to make a video for this because I would have the real specifications of what real work went into it and how much money we actually spent
@@libansheikh7067 It's a Logitech Z906 system as far as I could tell. Surround sound ;)
@@charliemaybe It's a Logitech Z906 system as far as I could tell. Surround sound ;)
all in the hardware costs 37k excluding the seat and porsche wheel they probably got on promo. So what tf are they charging 33k for haha.
then they crawl all over the internet defending themselves against anyone that calls them out
5:10 My first seat in my simrig came from 1st gen Focus, eventually replaced it with a *leather* seat from Astra G I'm currently using. Both seats were dirt cheap in comparison with any proper seat available on simracing hardware stores and both came from the same junkyard lol 10/10 recommend
14:10 The point of harness in motion sim is not to prevent falling of the sim but to allow the smallish amount of movement that the rig can do to most effectively affect your body. The tighter you are connected to the rig, the smaller vibrations and movement you can feel. It's not like slightly tilting your seat can accurately simulate 6g corners in F1 racing but you get more like 0.1g at best. If you don't use harness and you slide around a bit, that might be 0.05g or 0.02g effectively.
I got a Miata seat from a junkyard, best purchase for the rig. Fits nicely in my wooden rig
Same and its comfy for those long enduro races
been using an 2000's Mustang seat off marketface for 20$
I grabbed a leather Acura tlx seat from the junk pile at my mechanic's. I can sit and race for 3+ hours completely comfortable
could I see your rig? Im always curious in people's wood designs.
my dad once put a car seat from his old... opel on rolling wheels and that's been my seat for over a decade now.
Seriously. I have a computer desk with a broken keyboard shelf removed so I can have my G29 mounted permanently, and a La Z Boy chair. Only thing missing, Jimmy's shed. I DOMINATE! Joe Rogain - where is he? I bet I beat him in anything he wants to run!
I have a similar setup, Only difference is I have a Thrustmaster TMX wheel.
Joe Rogan has been absolutely dominated
Yea and I've broken 16 Keyboards in anger over sim racing...I'm standing knee deep in keyboard bits....how many keyboards has Joe Rogan smashed??
I got a g920 on a 2x4 desk. My seat is from a 98 Impala... with 2x4 base lmao.
@@mikemiller7946 gotta start somewhere! I bet it works pretty good, too. That seat sounds comfy and very budget friendly. Not bad for a Custom Rig! 😊
To be fair, labour costs would be a big chunk too, and that also apparently includes delivery to his house and them setting everything up in there for him.
Turn-key kind of a deal. He just orders it and it arrives done. Definitely abit of a luxury tax tacked onto that kind of service.
respect the hustle, let rich people get ripped off what do we care lol
They've charged at least 40k for that lol. Nothing justifies this price tag. Having said that if they can milk millionaires good for them.
Not in the Sim racing, not even into racing games. This video popped up randomly in my feed, but I will say great personality. Very natural and funny. Keep it up man.
You’d be surprised how your seat can get a second life by having it steam cleaned to extract all that brown stuff
14:58 I don't think the guy who built it knows anything about flightsims either. He looked like he was landing an helicopter on a runway like a plane.
Not a Joe Rogan fan, he’s a tool. But you actually DO approach using the runway in a helicopter in most airports etc. You just dont touch down on it.
That was a fun video, Jimmy! I like this kind of content because you're a natural at explaining stuff based on your knowledge and experience 👍
Imagine Joe getting beaten by an average G29 user lmao
Easily done by anyone that knows what they're doing lol
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Agree with Jimmy, you can walk out of a wreckers with a passenger seat (always choose passenger, less used) for less than 50 usually. Pick one with as manual adjustments (which is more likely on the passenger side as well).
The static monitors CAN work (and very high-end setups use static projected screens farther away) but camera movement needs to be set up correctly. Horizon/scenery movement and cabin movement can be adjusted separately in iracing so the cabin "tracks" the motion of the rig pretty well and the scenery stays put. Displacements need to be kept low or it's just a ride rather than useful cues. The G-seat/belts give more useful feedback than the motion, but a tiny bit of motion adds immersion. I could almost drop my actuators and use stronger tactile transducers...
I have a friend who got gouged 25k for a seat-mover/single ultra wide/920 by one of these companies. I tried to warn him...
i agree with you at the end, VR sim racing with that motion platform would be amazing
Saab seats for the win, got one on my rig. So comfy.
Used a Honda Type R seat in my rig. Auto makers spent untold 10s of thousands of dollars in RnD designing and engineering seats to be comfortable for hours on end. That's good enough for me!
@@SaabJitsuapart from Fiat developing the seats for the 500. I'm convinced they are a conspiracy by the world's chiropractors to ruin your back...
Recaro seat from mk5 ford escort rs2000. so comfy ive fell asleep sitting in that. no issues at all spending 4+ hours driving. bucket seats are overrated for simracing
Volvo s60 seat on mine, super adjustable and reeeally comfy
@@TheMrkiddi same brother same
I get that it's supposed to be 'turnkey' but if you're using motion on a rig, especially profile and not something welded together, I think you should expect to do some basic maintenance every couple of months to make sure nothing is loose. Or schedule whoever built it for you to check everything over in this case.
Totally agree. It's even worth doing a regular bolt-tightening routine on a non-motion rig. It's also a racing tradition, for good reason! 😅
I am totally agree with you about the seat! after two bucket seats that end up hurting my back after long session, I finally settled on a comfortable daily car seat
I pulled an Audi A4 seat from my local junk yard for my rig. Ended up being $40 CAD and it a fantastic seat.
So they say the went with high end parts for the PC because they want 20% - 30% headroom with the FPS, yet go with a 13th gen i9 instead of a AMD 7800X3D, which is not only cheaper than a 13th gen I9, but is something like at least 40% faster than the 13th gen i9 in Assetto Corsa Competizione, the game they showed the rig in.
Something isn't adding up here and it isn't just the US$70,000 price.
Not to be that guy, but it was definitely iRacing. Look at the green flag on the primary (middle) monitor when they start driving. ACC doesn’t have those UI elements.
It's the headline, the name. It's not so much about the actual performance, it's that it has the porsche paint, the legit recaro seat- the name that gets your attention. For the moment, intel still has a lead as far as name goes. Joe's not going to know the difference, he knows the name. WE could rag on choices as far as value goes for ages but in the end, this caters to a money pit like Joe like every other luxury brand that sacrifices value for... panache? Broad audience appeal or enthusiast, which garners more views?
I mean for that money youd expect a 7950X3D, not a 7800X3D. But I get it, the Ryzen X3D CPUs are just objectively better for gaming and also far easier to cool.
@@Obee270 That´s what I´ve seen as well. However, even in iRacing the X3D still makes a difference. Basically in every CPU-Limited Sim-Scenario, even in ETS/ATS. :)
@@hansmcfinklestein7640 Amongst other things, Joe is a whale. He is only a money pit if you buy his merch!
I bought a 1996 cobra last week and am restoring it, can’t wait to take it to the track
Hell of a purchase, congrats! That’s what dreams are made of… I hope it goes very well for you!
Congrats man
Really cool looking car, hope you'll have lots of fun and good times with it
Not at all relevant to this video.
"So yeah, I've used a lot of gear in my time"
So has Joe Rogan
Who else remembers BUTTKICKERS. Looking at the motion etc and hearing Jimmy talk about it, reminded me of those and well, they seemed like a great in-between to get curbs, impacts etc without the huge cost of actual motion
i'm sorry, but 15-20 hours on cabling....i've cabled up many deployments at tier 4 data centres and if you are spending 15+ hours cabling a sim rig, you are doing something wrong.
I agree lol. I have a sim rig just as complicated and it took me like 4 hours to cable it and it was in a tight corner of my office where it was a royal pita to do.
I wish i had anything more than an old g27...i somehow managed to adapt and i race in pretty competitive leagues in acc and f1 games
A G27 is completely fine! There are people in Top ranks with Logitech Wheels! But...I know what you mean 😉
That's really all you need.
I used to race with a DFGT i bought used over 10 years ago. Still got within about a 1 - 1.5s of the aliens.
Consistency wasn't exactly there with the ffb being vaque rumble and the pedals being like floppy noodles, but i still did just fine.
Upgrading to a DD with load cell brake only made me slower. Even after having quite a good amount of seat time with them, i'm still not back to the level i used to be with the trusty old DFGT
Ahhh Podium 1 out of Nolensville TN!! Right in my backyard how cool!
14:10 a little note, some people use harnesses to simulate being thrown forward under braking by tightening the belt when you are slowing down and loosening it when speeding up. I think thats pretty cool.
If they really were the "World's best turn-key sim-builders", I don't think cable management would take them 15-20 hours... The fact that it took them that long means they have not built that many rigs, which means they probably are not the best
Or they just wanted a way to justify charging for 15-20 hours worth of pay for 5 people… got to make up the 70k somehow
@@harrymonotone9817 Yeah, but you can tell a smaller lie than that for a better result IMO
We sell hundreds of rigs a month... .A sim like this has so many wires it's crazy. It really is understated.
I get what you are saying about how you can do a lot more with that kind of money by building things yourself but someone like Joe Rogan (or most folks that have $20k+ for a sim rig) can't or simply do not have the time. Joe was probably interested in it, found some folks that would take his preferences into account, and make the entire experience as painless as possible. I don't think anyone would expect a custom built $70k sim rig would include $70k worth of hardware. The extra upcharge is for the service / ease of access component to the sale. I would imagine the company is also on the hook for support on the backend for a specified period of time.
Okay back to my Logitech G920 on the Xbox. Lol.
Very true, but just using logic and agreeing with rig makers wouldn't made a good reaction video :)
who's saying it should have 70k worth of hardware? theres maybe 20k worth of hardware there, you're telling me the service is worth 50k? you can buy a Radical SR3 (used but bought through radical themselves) for that... you're telling me the service of buying a monitor and bolting together some standard rig parts is worth as much as what is basically a mini LMP?
@@RWoody1995 that was how it came across in the video. Constantly pointing to individual components and then "saying oh $70k is a lot" with no mention of the value provided by someone building a high end rig for what I assume is an entry level customer.
Also, how do you know the hardware was only $20k? I don't know enough to give a solid estimate but those monitors and pc alone seemed pretty serious. Add in those two wheels, an official race ready seat, additional hardware for the flight sim components and $20k starts sounding low to me.
Maybe I misunderstood the tone of the video but it sounded like the takeaway was that its a cool rig but Joe paid too much. I'm just pointing folks towards the value of service to customers unfamiliar with sim racing builds.
Joe saw a video his mate posted of his rig and thought I want that. It's as simple as that. Not worth the money but its literally pocket change to Joe.
Will we soon see Jimmy on the ‘Joe Rogan Experience’? First round, who is the better sim racer with Joe Rogan’s sim rig? Second round, a sparring fight between Jimmy and Joe. And lastly, in the third round, the conversation between Joe and Jimmy will take place lol.
Wait the motion is independent from the screens ?! OMG ! This was a good laugh Jimmer ! 😂 tearing them apart. Thank u
i've been to a sim-center recently, where they have motion-rigs. was my first time driving a motion-rig.
and they had the monitors separate from the rig too.
very first impression was awkward, yes.
BUT if you think about it, it does make sense in a "real world comparrison" in my opinion. because the world around you is in fact kinda static and you are moving around with your head a lot inside the cockpit (in a racecar). so yeah. i accept the logic of fixed monitors.
😂
But your car is bouncing and yawing too so that means your seat is now moving differently to your environment and your dashboard.
When he said they're adding on a few extra details for Joe am I the only one who thought: "A booster seat?". 💀
The legend in the Takashi Murakami is Nevel Harrison. He is THE hype beast, dudes just completing sidequests.
regarding disconnected monitors - if you had something like TrackIR could you use that tracking your head position and updating the view on the screens so the effect is that the view is locked to the movement of the rig, while saving the weight and complexity of having those massive monitors on the motion platform
you pay a premium to have a team build a beefy rig like this. so i guess the question of "is it worth it?" must factor in the opportunity cost of time. Does Joe have the time to research and build something to this level? Or is his time better spent elsewhere while he pays someone to build it for him. For most of us here watching Jimmy and Co., we don't mind spending the time to learn and build it ourselves. I would love to see Boosted Media's take on Joe's rig. Man knows his stuff too.
That is pretty hefty premium.
@@vaenii5056 yea exactly lol OP's reasoning is there but he still got ripped off. Maybe Joe just doesn't have the time to find a better price for anything
@@bitemyshite Who knows. However with 70,000 dollars you could have gotten really nice rig from Simworx, Vesaro or other similar companies who offer simulator packages for professional / commercial use.
While overpriced as well, they look sleek, should be fairly easy to put together and I'm sure their customer service would be more than happy to help you to get everything running. You pay premium but you also get premium in return.
When going 8020 route you can build a dream rig with around 25,000 - 35,000 dollars with active pedals, D-box, triples and whatnot.
I mean that whole setup is probably like 35k in parts, it most definitely isnt worth the extra cost, if someone offered me a 1000€ i would build that rig to the same standard, but its Joe Rogan tho so i dont think he's too concerned about a bit of extra costs
@@theHaba99 Sure, but compare what that 70k can get you from Simworx, Vesaro etc. While you are still paying premium you get something that looks more unique and slick than your typical 8020 build.
Building the ultimate 8020 sim rig with active pedals, Simucube base, Gen 5 D-BOX, BHD shifter, triples etc. costs somewhere around 25,000 - 35,000 dollars.
So, actually, you can tighten all you want. But all you need is to meet the bolt or screws torque rating and loctite. Anything more than that is pointless. And if you don't use loctite and over tighten it, you risk ruining the bolt or screws intagerty which could lead to it coming loose but of course that depends on the size of it.
Totally agree with your VR quip. I went from single, to VR, to triples with motion....now I am back in VR. Basically, same set up: D box, 4090 14900k, Varjo aero, (only 32gb ram though as its easier to overclock). The only difference is, my sound is going through a Krix cinema set up. I sure as hell didn't pay 70K! VR is great if the PC has enough HP to not drop frames. I think this is why a lot people feel a little sick when playing. Waiting for reviews of the new Qubic Haptic Seat belt.......subbing!
The sneezing frame was nice hahaha
Rich people aren't paying money expecting to get perfect value for money, they're paying for the service, the peace of mind knowing someone is going to handle the job without bothering you. They only expect to have one phone call and then a couple weeks later they can use the product like it's always been there. They don't care for the how's and why's, all the costs etc. This is a good lesson for any freelancer out there feeling bad for charging high prices. Find rich people who value service over value for money and then provide outstanding service, you'll be able to justify stupid prices that way, because to a rich person, the money is irrelevant, it's the time and mental energy that comes with good service they are actually paying for.
There are some sim racers that just don't have the skills. That's okay, but if you're going to spend that much money only to get smoked every time you grid up, then you might get real frustrated after spending that much money. My ancient Bob Earl Mark 2 rig has my wheel mounted to a 1" square tube that's on a curved shaft that does move around on bumpy tracks (and they're mostly all bumpy) With the wheel bouncing a bit it makes me feel like it's a motion rig, so no, everything doesn't have to be that rigid. (One last thing, if you're going to spend that much money, try the CXC rig. It can easily adjust to any size person, which is great when you want to impress your friends.)
Cool to see! I do the video side of Sims for a lot of big systems in USA defense training. I'm just now starting to get into building my own sim for personal use
I have a 1992 Toyota Cressida velour bucket with lumbar and full seat base movement. Very comfy and will never wear out.
For $70,000 dollars, I could buy a used 2007 Cayman, build it to fit the Spec Cayman class and still have $35,000 to go racing. To experience real life racing....
this rig is not for poor people like us, rich people buy this rig AND a cayman to go racing in
joe rogan already has a 911 so mute point
@@diarmuidmarsden7752 moot
Imagine how many musicians Spotify could have paid with that money.
Amen. Its f'ed up that musicians get so little revenue from Spotify, yet they pay him so freaking much. Its supposed to primarily be a music platform... Just awful.
Dude, I really enjoy seeing this video in 2 second increments.
Yes, Jimmy. I have a good'ish system and race as well as I could. I believe that the wheel pedals and seats/ positions are the most important. VR is crucial for competition. I just do ring and dirt road racing. After Vr before motion, try a good 4 corner shaker system. I have no further idea, but that may improve your feel for the car every time with a motion system. Great video and substance. Ty
The critique from you that I can understand the most is the motion of the rig while the screens are moving independently of the rig. That makes a lot of sense and I wouldn't have thought of the harness/seatbelt. Great review.
the screens should be static, jimmy is wrong here. its near impossible to reinforce the integrated monitor stand to not shake from the motion. The horizon in real life does not move, when the motion is not exaggerated, the movements line up perfectly with the plane on the screen. He has prolly only ever tried motion rigs at expos that are set to insane levels
You could build that rig yourself for roughly 15k
You're poor at math then
Nope, not possible.
Not with those monitors and a proper motion platform. Half the sticker price is profit for the builders but the other half cannot get much cheaper if you want to use the same hardware.
Does it make sense to use real homologated seat? Not for me, but if the customer is wealthy enough, spending $5K may be worth the cost for him. You have to remember that many really rich people are looking for experiences, not best bang for buck.
I got the Big screen beyond ($1000+$300(base stations)), 2nd hand Moza R9+CS ($800) + logikit upgraded logitech pedals ($300), nextlevelracing GTlite pro(€300), plus some bits and bobs with shipping and vat included, just my rig would be around €$£3500-4000 and i would say i am very happy with everything. I am excluding my gaming pc as i use it for other gaming, work, school, otherwise add another €$£2000-2500 on that total.
I came here for a proper slating of an over the top expensive rig and instead Jimmy is just giving good piece by piece analysis of the rig. This isn’t the Internet I’m used to.
I bet Joe Rogan turns the racing line on
Or, he'll get bored sucking at i-racing and use it mostly for playing American Truck Sim.
When I saw the original video I couldn't believe they found a way to spend 70 grand on what is basically a off-the-shelf part collection. I also do high level flight simming and believe me those peripherals are pretty mid and not worth more than a couple hundred bucks. If anyone wants me to build them this rig I'll do it for like less than half that, labor included 😂
$70,000 too expensive? In a word, yes. The final 5 minutes of this video sums up exactly what I was thinking.
This is why i will always love Jimmy Broadbent. He's a real simracer by hart!
2 minutes in and I’m wondering where they spent 50k of the budget 💀
edit: 6 minutes in now, why would these guys film and post a video exposing themselves for blatantly ripping people off and also not really know what they’re talking about at all 💀💀💀💀💀
edit 2: 13 minutes in im genuinely pissed off these guys are actually just annoying goodbye
I asked the chef hows ur cable management.....Spaghetti Bolinase He said Pmsl
I thought he was saying Pudding Racing! Didn't realise until I saw the link in the description above! LOL
In the end, we knew this would just come down to Jimmy pushing VR as an alternative.
When it’s “fuck you” money, the price doesn’t matter to the person anymore
It's not worth $70K but Joe's time is worth >>>>> $70K if he decided to research and build it himself. For Joe, $70K is pocket change.
I remember going to Sim Racing Expo in 2019 at the Nürburgring. And i was blown away by the rigs presented there. I can only imagine how those have evolved in the 5 years since - but if I had eff you money lying around, I would most certainly spend 50-100k on a proper sim rig. Mind you, I would probably take that money and invest it into real racing, but a proper motion rig for sim racing would be nice too.
you're basically saying if I had more money than sense I wouldn't care about the price of things. You and everyone else I guess
These guys are local to me in Nashville, TN. They offer several different rigs at several budgets. The fit and finish is very very nice in person but like jimmy said they have a specific clientele they target even with their “entry” level rigs.
Does it come with an ivermectin drinks bottle?
15-20 *HOURS* of wiring at that point - absolute BULLSHIT. There can't be more than a dozen, maybe 2 dozen cables at that point. I am EXTREMELY anal retentive about cabling (built datacenters for years) and it only takes me about 2 to wire my entire rig that is FAR more complex (not as expensive) as this.
That's about the hours i would expect to wire up an actual car. For a sim rig? Yeah no.
Maybe they employ some handicapped people but charge full hourly rate?
I used to think the same way about refresh rate. I used a 27 inch 144hz monitor for about 6-7 years. I tried a 165hz 34 inch curved Alienware OLED last year, and it was night and day difference in smoothness/fluidity of the image. I ended up returning it due to some damage from shipping, and because I didn't like the curve that much and that the 21:9 aspect ratio sucks for most things other than sim racing. Now I have a 120hz 42 inch LG OLED and it's also nowhere near as smooth as the 165hz was.
I'm using a seat from a Dodge Intrepid. Motorized forward/back, up/down and tilt. The back support is manual tilt though. Extremely comfortable. I can sit in it all day and never feel sore.
There is nothing wrong with someone spending $70k on a sim rig. If they have the money and that's what they want to do then go for it. Especially for someone like Joe who just thinks it's cool to have a sim rig but doesn't want to put effort in picking out specific parts/building it himself.
there's nothing wrong in someone wanting to spend that much for sure but the point is that it sucks when companies rip people off charging them 70k for 20k maybe 30k worth of hardware, sure there must be a hefty shipping and labour fees but 40-50k worth? really? it might only be rich people getting ripped off by these guys but with the publicity of these things i can just see that more companies will think they can get away with the same thing and start affecting the working class and middle class sim racers who would be mad (rightfully) if they were ripped off by £100 let alone tens of thousands.
@@RWoody1995 it was 37k in parts alone. And I'd imagine they will provide ongoing support beyond just the build/install
The thing is the profit margins are so high that you only need to find that one person with more money than brains and its already profitable.
The entire rig probably didn't even cost them 10k in parts and maybe another 5k in labor meaning they made 55k in gross profit.
Thats enough to pay for the warehouse and the 3 other people working there for the rest of the year all of that from one sale, not to mentione they are probably selling more than one unit a year.
With profit margins in the triple digits not wonder companies like this are popping up everywhere.
Hopefully, it's someone else doing your finance...
Come on, be a bit more realistic here. The motion system alone is $9k. The seat is about 5K (Recaro podium carbon red, or whatever it's called) A water cooled PC with a 4090 is about $3.5K. The active brake pedal is $2.5K the H pattern shifter is $2K. The wheelbase with four different wheels is about5K. The monitors are 2.5K each. The flight sim parts and the heusinkverld pedals are 1.5K. Then you have the rig itself, the monitor stand, the sound system, The wires, the LEDs, The monitor mounts, peripherals, handbrake etc. That's legitimately about 40k in parts, but not more than that.
@RaIkKh self-employed and doing my own finances for 5 years now lol
8:01 Yes you are jimbo
I used to love playing racing games with the wheel & pedal setups. The only reason I purchased a PS2 back in the day was for Gran Turismo and I picked up the best wheel setup available for PS2 at the time. I can't play anymore. A few years ago, I blew the motor in my 500HP WRX w/ fully adjustable suspension, upgraded transmission, and all sorts of other fun goodies. It was easily the most fun car to drive I have ever owned, and I have owned a few very fun cars but once I could no longer hop in that and go for a cruise down the back roads playing racing games just make me sad and miss the car even more.
@14:18 Sorry Jimmy I have to disagree with you completely here. Maybe it's because you don't have a motion rig, you think the monitor's should move with the rig. Lack of experience. The correct answer is that monitors should not move. Here is why. In real life you and the car are moving on the track. The earth is not moving with you. It's completely still. What you see here is exactly that. The animation of your car dash moves with your rig synced together but the track is completely still. If the monitors move with you the track is going to go up and down. Like the earth is going up and down. Which is wrong. And makes you sick really quick. In vr it's the same thing. Track is standing still but your moving. I hope you understand it.
You're absolutely right, but watching the footage, the in car cockpit doesn't really move in sync with the rig.
@@mementomori4972 mine does. Playing ams2 for example. I tweaked the setting of my motion platform and the in games setting. It's perfect now. You have subtle movements on the track and you're not off roading. So there is no need to be tossed around like a mad man 😄
This. To many plebs including Jimmy who even doesn’t have motion in first place. Also with those monitors it’s waaay too heavy to mount to the rig aswell.
Joke Rogan.
I'm biased though, because I think Joe Rogan is a pretty terrible person in the land of fitness, being a human adult, speaking to other human adults, and now, unfortunately, sim motorsport. If you're a fan of Joe Rogan, more power to you, I think nothing less of you (not that anyone cares what I think) but damn.
As far as seats go, I added a memory foam & cooling gel seat cover that I bought from Autozone to cover my NLR seat. I lost a little of the bucket form factor around the legs, but totally worth it. Then I made that useless by throwing an NLR HF8 haptic feedback cover on top. 😂
Back in 2013 I designed and F1 wheel Rim based on an Arduino interfacing with the Microsoft wireless wheel, fitted to a DIY rig made from an old metal Golf trolley (fold away to keep the other half happy). Still had more functionality than some of the affordable wheels available today. In short it cost £75 + a year of effort to get the code working (had to teach myself from scratch). If you can’t afford it, build it yourself one new skill at a time.
I would watch this if it wasn't above Joe Rogan...
Just no
This is wild how expensive it is. I sadly don’t have a simrig (pc upgrade first) but i got an old Bride Brix seat which i use infront of my TV. Works like a charm
joe rogan sucks and this is a huge L for simracing
Does whatever he does in his spare time impact your laptimes?
@@2900Mhz nah just have a passionate hate for that guy. Call it jealousy but he's one of the bigger mistakes off our society.
because you speak for all of simracing?