I second the comment. I have just under 1,000 hour PIC part 135 hours in the Caravan both crew and single pilot operations. Once you learn how to accomplish flows and go back over your procedure with the check list, that is why they call it a checklist by the way, you will never go back to the read and do method. The read and do is for peeps who fly a few times a year. The flow method is how the pros do it. NICE video well done.
Why does everyone think they are an expert on here? The ignition is always set to 'norm' unless in emergency or heavy precip. And @Focha, it's been a while since I've flown the caravan so I don't know the exact numbers but the redline you see it go over on start is the redline for takeoff/in-flight. The start up redline is almost full deflection of the gauge, you can see the big red box with writing and a line going to the temp.
The Caravan is such a mighty machine! a true workhorse! But i have to say i like the PC-12 very much as well! Just because it's versatile as well STOL capable and has tremendous speed!
ITT is the third instrument left to right. The right line (1090 deg C) is at the lower left side, about 7 o´clock position, this start was somewhere of 800c. perfectly normal.
Student use of a checklist promotes consistency required in the use of checklist procedures for future operating of more complex aircraft. The "flow" system is really handy when you do not have an approved checklist as is more often the case in GA flying. After several hours flying the same aircraft, though, the common result in most important items being memorized in flow, an approved hard copy checklist is always an added safety feature, as you know in any event.
@andymizziI Not sure why or if he even switched off the fuel tank after takeoff because his fuel was balanced, but either way there's no limitation. There's no need for the gps to be stationary during the setup (not an inertial nav system). And he only adjusted the flight plan in climb so he could engage the ap nav. And for the checklists, we and all other commercial operators use a challenge response checklist. He completed all flows and verified them with the check list.
The red line for normal operation is 805 degrees Celsius, and the start temp red "triangle" is 1090 degrees Celsius. That said, i fly 208's and anything over about 740 is an abnormal start unless your doing a ship start in +40 ambient. At least in my experience, i have never seen a start temp over 805 flying Vans with -114's and -114A's.
I fly the turbine suburban as well and see to blow past 805 all the time. Mostly in windy conditions and usually only a tail wind, its not horrible, anything over 900 calls for mx attention.
every good Instructor has told me "you should be checking your complete field of view every minute in VFR, especially at take-off". good advice, too, if you ask me. god knows what you are ascending into - flock of birds flying in from the left, aircraft entering the pattern that the tower forgot to mention, who knows? every soul's life on board depends on your vigilence, you dont want to tell the court "uh, i suppose i didn't check over my shoulder..."
hey do turboprops have engine torque that tries to roll the aircraft in the opposite direction that the prop is spinning (like in a piston engined plane).
Pilots are still very well respected, I get many people who want to hear about it when I tell them I'm a pilot. 4 strips means of the highest respect, would you call a boat captain a glorified taxi driver?
@Nastrutius Watch closely, he uses a checklist. In a commercial environment such as this, we use a challenge-response type of checklist. Meaning we use memorization/flows to complete all the required items then refer to the checklist to verify all items have been completed.
When teaching my students, the check list is a "do list", meaning read and do. Once you are familiar with an aircraft, you check what you did from a flow with the check list. Hence "check" list. After 800+ hrs in 152s and 172s, I never pull out a check list. Hell, the King Air captain I fly with never uses a check list other than cockpit flow.
@beergut111 Is it funny that theres a 675 hp pratt & whitney pt6 strapped to the front of it? or that it carries 9 passengers? or that it can do 170 knots on approach? but i guess a cessna 402 is better because it's not a 'single engine cessna'.
@andymizzi I dont want to get into this on here but the 256 says "3 minutes" as a guideline for the time that it could take to spool up. We all know it doesn't take 3 minutes for an attitude indicator to come up. And i can guarantee that it doesn't state anywhere that it needs to be stationary. For one, why would a vacuum driven AI need to be stationary during spool up. And second, if that were the case all of our ki256's would continually be broken. Have yet to come across a broken one.
ok thanks, ive come to that conclusion, I only questioned it because i've seen many videos of twin engine turboprops (both props spin in same direction) takeing off from cockpit veiw and i never see the pilot correcting for torque roll with the control column. Is that done with the rudder (i wouldn't expect this because you would be useing side slip to induce roll, when you could just use the alierons)? and also ive seen comments online saying they have no torque because they are turbines.
A propeller functions the same across the board. Single engine turbo props still have left turning tendencies that have to be corrected with right rudder on take off.
@andymizziI Oh and also, its a caravan not a 747. Bottom line is more time on ground equals more money wasted, this is an airline environment, not weekend warrior. Granted, if it were ifr some of this would be different but it's not.
Throw the guy out! I want his job and his 4 stripes. Thay PT6 driven 675hp Caravan is a dream if not the most sexy thing on this planet! + its designed for single pilot ops, means freedom.
He didnt muck around bringing the fuel in on start considering the airfield elev, got pretty warm there.. Also I dunno why he was dragging his arse up with flap out for so long, def not going to climb well like that..
Checklist not cool..but if you ever forgot an important switch and someone experienced was watching, and belted you for it, you would swear by checklists, I make my own now..by the way lets get going is an examiner trick..
+John R Its called the Inertial Separator. You pull it out when operating from dusty runways or flying through cloud/rain etc. It diverts all unwanted objects away from the engine intake. In clear dry air you push it in. When pulled you get a very small reduction in power
despite a great workflow, he doesnt check his left shoulder even once during the entire take-off - climb-out. bad practice. should be checking every 30 seconds. (sorry I have to critisize, dont want to encourage bad habits in myself, it helps to remind)
Watch a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini video and everyone has a family member who just bought one and a friend who has one in the garage (as if that's saying something)... freaking lambo costs less than a porky Cessna 206! ;)
please post the time, I can't Identify that moment. anything less than turning his head 90 degrees isn't checking. Notice the sun is coming over his left shoulder, it take more than a passing glance into the sun to check for traffic, especially during climbout, even if he is wearing sunnies, incase aircraft are entering the pattern that he isn't aware of. my apologies if I'm missing it, though. not trying to offend, just pointing out weak points that could be improvd on.
Get used to it ...watch plane video? ...everyone is a 30,000 hour commercial pilot. Watch firefighting videos? ....everyone there is a 25 year veteran of some major FD ...etc,etc.
Yeah Four stripes for four passengers. You never see the real bush pilots wearing their 'status symbols ' because they are only glorified taxi drivers to be honest. Pilots are now part of the lower middle-class society. The glory days are over.
no its funny cause there aint much to that plane.....I got over 2000 hours in a caravan and the stripes just make it funny to watch. Id take a 402 in ice over that POS any day.
Am I the only only one that finds this plane beautiful?
I second the comment. I have just under 1,000 hour PIC part 135 hours in the Caravan both crew and single pilot operations. Once you learn how to accomplish flows and go back over your procedure with the check list, that is why they call it a checklist by the way, you will never go back to the read and do method. The read and do is for peeps who fly a few times a year. The flow method is how the pros do it. NICE video well done.
Why does everyone think they are an expert on here? The ignition is always set to 'norm' unless in emergency or heavy precip. And @Focha, it's been a while since I've flown the caravan so I don't know the exact numbers but the redline you see it go over on start is the redline for takeoff/in-flight. The start up redline is almost full deflection of the gauge, you can see the big red box with writing and a line going to the temp.
The Caravan is such a mighty machine! a true workhorse! But i have to say i like the PC-12 very much as well! Just because it's versatile as well STOL capable and has tremendous speed!
ITT is the third instrument left to right. The right line (1090 deg C) is at the lower left side, about 7 o´clock position, this start was somewhere of 800c. perfectly normal.
Student use of a checklist promotes consistency required in the use of checklist procedures for future operating of more complex aircraft. The "flow" system is really handy when you do not have an approved checklist as is more often the case in GA flying. After several hours flying the same aircraft, though, the common result in most important items being memorized in flow, an approved hard copy checklist is always an added safety feature, as you know in any event.
@andymizziI Not sure why or if he even switched off the fuel tank after takeoff because his fuel was balanced, but either way there's no limitation. There's no need for the gps to be stationary during the setup (not an inertial nav system). And he only adjusted the flight plan in climb so he could engage the ap nav. And for the checklists, we and all other commercial operators use a challenge response checklist. He completed all flows and verified them with the check list.
What would be the purpose of checking his left shoulder?
I have 2000 hours in this airplane and this pilot did everything pretty much like I do.
The red line for normal operation is 805 degrees Celsius, and the start temp red "triangle" is 1090 degrees Celsius. That said, i fly 208's and anything over about 740 is an abnormal start unless your doing a ship start in +40 ambient. At least in my experience, i have never seen a start temp over 805 flying Vans with -114's and -114A's.
Good stuff brother - Caravans rock!!!
Nice takeoff keep up the good work flying
Excellent video.
I fly the turbine suburban as well and see to blow past 805 all the time. Mostly in windy conditions and usually only a tail wind, its not horrible, anything over 900 calls for mx attention.
Wow he went through that check list really fast lol good video by the way
to hell with those trolls. thanks for posting your video. i enjoyed watching it
Damn, he got the hell outta there like he stole that thing?
every good Instructor has told me "you should be checking your complete field of view every minute in VFR, especially at take-off". good advice, too, if you ask me. god knows what you are ascending into - flock of birds flying in from the left, aircraft entering the pattern that the tower forgot to mention, who knows? every soul's life on board depends on your vigilence, you dont want to tell the court "uh, i suppose i didn't check over my shoulder..."
great video thanx
hey do turboprops have engine torque that tries to roll the aircraft in the opposite direction that the prop is spinning (like in a piston engined plane).
nice!
This guy is a fucking pro....wish i could do that.
Pilots are still very well respected, I get many people who want to hear about it when I tell them I'm a pilot. 4 strips means of the highest respect, would you call a boat captain a glorified taxi driver?
@Nastrutius
Watch closely, he uses a checklist. In a commercial environment such as this, we use a challenge-response type of checklist. Meaning we use memorization/flows to complete all the required items then refer to the checklist to verify all items have been completed.
Very NICE .Mfg aus Neuss ....Achim
@davmast fuel bal limit on the 208 is 200lbs when I did my rating
Because they have Flight Sim and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express! :)
@andymizzi
please give one reason why you feel this way
When teaching my students, the check list is a "do list", meaning read and do. Once you are familiar with an aircraft, you check what you did from a flow with the check list. Hence "check" list.
After 800+ hrs in 152s and 172s, I never pull out a check list. Hell, the King Air captain I fly with never uses a check list other than cockpit flow.
I like this type of aircraft for camping. STOL
davmast 1090 for 2 seconds! :-)
@AbreuArtu I like how you just skip private pilot - not that it's an important step to becoming a commercial pilot.... oh wait....
@beergut111
Is it funny that theres a 675 hp pratt & whitney pt6 strapped to the front of it? or that it carries 9 passengers? or that it can do 170 knots on approach? but i guess a cessna 402 is better because it's not a 'single engine cessna'.
@andymizzi I dont want to get into this on here but the 256 says "3 minutes" as a guideline for the time that it could take to spool up. We all know it doesn't take 3 minutes for an attitude indicator to come up. And i can guarantee that it doesn't state anywhere that it needs to be stationary. For one, why would a vacuum driven AI need to be stationary during spool up. And second, if that were the case all of our ki256's would continually be broken. Have yet to come across a broken one.
Setting up Avionics on Taxi ?
ok thanks, ive come to that conclusion, I only questioned it because i've seen many videos of twin engine turboprops (both props spin in same direction) takeing off from cockpit veiw and i never see the pilot correcting for torque roll with the control column. Is that done with the rudder (i wouldn't expect this because you would be useing side slip to induce roll, when you could just use the alierons)?
and also ive seen comments online saying they have no torque because they are turbines.
A propeller functions the same across the board. Single engine turbo props still have left turning tendencies that have to be corrected with right rudder on take off.
@TheAirplane38 flying one yet? Love to fly one my self tooo
@beergut111
Cool..why I do not drink beer just coffee, cheers!
Pacific Wings?
ITT increase like a tsunami... 😂😂😂😂
@andymizziI Oh and also, its a caravan not a 747. Bottom line is more time on ground equals more money wasted, this is an airline environment, not weekend warrior. Granted, if it were ifr some of this would be different but it's not.
@aky19832001 no you're not i also love that plane
@Nastrutius yeah i know what they mean.
Throw the guy out! I want his job and his 4 stripes. Thay PT6 driven 675hp Caravan is a dream if not the most sexy thing on this planet! + its designed for single pilot ops, means freedom.
He didnt muck around bringing the fuel in on start considering the airfield elev, got pretty warm there.. Also I dunno why he was dragging his arse up with flap out for so long, def not going to climb well like that..
hello A OK thanks
Checklist not cool..but if you ever forgot an important switch and someone experienced was watching, and belted you for it, you would swear by checklists, I make my own now..by the way lets get going is an examiner trick..
Anyone know where this took off at? I see it started off at 4200 ASL. Denver starts at around 5000+
Boyd Merriman started at 3200 actually
I thought I recognized the airport, so I checked Google Earth. It looks like he's departing Rwy 26 at Carlsbad, NM (KCNM).
What is the lever he closes at 2:02? Just above and to the left of the throttle. Thanks in advance.
+John R Its called the Inertial Separator. You pull it out when operating from dusty runways or flying through cloud/rain etc. It diverts all unwanted objects away from the engine intake. In clear dry air you push it in. When pulled you get a very small reduction in power
Thanks very much JackerNo2.
despite a great workflow, he doesnt check his left shoulder even once during the entire take-off - climb-out. bad practice. should be checking every 30 seconds. (sorry I have to critisize, dont want to encourage bad habits in myself, it helps to remind)
Watch a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini video and everyone has a family member who just bought one and a friend who has one in the garage (as if that's saying something)... freaking lambo costs less than a porky Cessna 206! ;)
Well..he kinda forgot to get the ignition going on takeoff..pretty big deal on the checklist!
Besides that great job
@beergut111
1 bar Student Pilot, 2 bar Private Pilot, 3 Bar First Officer, Commercial Pilot, 4 bar Captain/Commander, Airline Transport Pilot.
Isn't he supposed to announce " prop clear"?
please post the time, I can't Identify that moment. anything less than turning his head 90 degrees isn't checking. Notice the sun is coming over his left shoulder, it take more than a passing glance into the sun to check for traffic, especially during climbout, even if he is wearing sunnies, incase aircraft are entering the pattern that he isn't aware of. my apologies if I'm missing it, though. not trying to offend, just pointing out weak points that could be improvd on.
@davmast no a guy wearing 4 stripes in a 402 is just as bad....
its funnt looking at a guy flying a single engine cessna wearing 4 stripes....hahaha
Get used to it ...watch plane video? ...everyone is a 30,000 hour commercial pilot. Watch firefighting videos? ....everyone there is a 25 year veteran of some major FD ...etc,etc.
Nope.
Because they have many hours on skate boards and Flight Sim to hone their expert skills. Dummy ;)
Yeah Four stripes for four passengers. You never see the real bush pilots wearing their 'status symbols ' because they are only glorified taxi drivers to be honest. Pilots are now part of the lower middle-class society. The glory days are over.
You sound like a complete, jealous, bitter a-hole. 'just sayin'
no its funny cause there aint much to that plane.....I got over 2000 hours in a caravan and the stripes just make it funny to watch. Id take a 402 in ice over that POS any day.
Very NICE .Mfg aus Neuss ....Achim
Very NICE .Mfg aus Neuss ....Achim
Very NICE .Mfg aus Neuss ....Achim