Cessna 172 Very cool and amazing. crosswind landing.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Cessna 172 Took my co-worker Alex for a flight.
All the credit for this video goes to him. He has an amazing sense of camera.
I always wanted to see how my gears close to the runway and he did it.
Could be used as a nice crab technique demonstration for crosswind landings. Cessna 172
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Beautiful! Landings like this are why some old planes still flying today.
To the haters out there, you would know if he didn't flare.. The airplane would smack right on to the runway and probably collapse the nose landing gear. Diablovt108vt109 has it spot on with the landing performance. Thanks for the great video. Keep them up!
Nice job...approach, downwind, extending, crabbing, landing. Nice camera work too. 12 years since I last flew. My old friend the 172 looks so familiar.
I totally concur- there's a huge difference between landing on FS vs landing with a 12-15 knot crosswind, with wind gusts on final. Nice landing- most POH procedures list it exactly the way it was done here.
The stall horn right above the runway is a good thing. It comes on BEFORE the stall and indicates that you are at good, safe speed for landing (as long as you only hear it when you're floating right above the runway). Good landing.
as a student, this is really helpful to watch. thanks for the lesson.
Go do it. That is how we all got started. Wishing that we were pilots and then going out and doing it. It is expensive but if you really want it, you can do it. Go for it my friend.
Good cameraman good pilot = superb video !
Love how you came out of that crab, nice job.
I've flown 182's, 172's, but mostly a 170...the stall horn almost always sounds just before you grease it on...like he did. Good landing!
Bravo,,I obtained my PLP in a C172 but was always useless at crosswind landings. I tended to fly on calmer days. Very interesting clip
Decent video. I remember years ago doing my solo severe crosswind came up and it took me 2.5 hours to get down and stay down.
Forgot all about the rudder pedals ;-)
Glad you had lots of fuel.
Love it! The ultimate stall horn.
Dude, you're a hell of a pilot. That was a VERY nice greaser... You were less than 10 feet off when you crossed the displaced threshold, damn near hitting the numbers - and then greased it to boot! VERY nice.
Text book crosswind landing. Good job.
Nice landing! It looks like you guys had a lot of fun that day. Thanks for sharing!
I agree with you man nice landing, I like the dip the wing one wheel crosswind landing better to, to me its easier but its different for everyone, and for anyone saying he shouldnt here the stall horn, you are wrong, he did that perfect
Yeah that was one long displaced threshold!
Was a very nice landing and good crabbing into the wind. I prefer to use a wing low slip myself as it keeps the longitudinal axis aligned with the centerline and greatly reduces the risk of sideloading, but very nice flare and touchdown, heard the stall warner coming on.
Great crosswind landing. And yes that Alex guy is very good with the camera :)
He really did a good job, such a great landing! Nice and smooth!
Yes, of course it is. That particular runway has a history to it. There is also a movie commemorating it. It's calles "16L" in Van Nuys, California. KVNY is the identifier.
Sideslipping into wind or crosscontrol method is another approach that can be flown during crosswinds. This requires dipping the wing using left/right aileron (dep wind direction) and to prevent the yaw, input the required rudder to keep to the heading. The sitation u have is opposite aleron/rudder to opposite rudder/aileron, or a dipped wing + flying in a straight line. The roll would othewise induce a roll, but inputting opposite yaw allows the aircraft to fly it's heading. No flap landings 2
Very nice crosswind landing, Armanys. Salute.
Nice one! A cross wind "Greaser". It doesn't get any better than that!
Perfect landing.... Good stuff
got to fly one of these today ... amazingly fun
As to stall-horn landings. I absolutely agree the trying to forcefully get a stall-horn landing can lead to hard ones. However don't you agree that as instructor you should ensure that your student is taught to have such planning and control over the airplane that they arrive to the ground in a planned way. The stall horn shouldn't be a matter of luck or something you try to hear before touching down, rather it should be a result of carefully planned final approach.
This was a fantastic landing.
Aircraft intact everyone alive
Great landing, well done
You are my new hero! Very impressive. I'd fly with you anytime.
man that was a great landing !!!
Hey fellow C172 type rated pilot, perfect technique mate, really enjoyed the vid.
Fly safe and fly on !
I soloed last week into a 10 kt crosswind, i was sweating bullets.
It was an RAF base actually, called RAF Woodvale in the NorthWest of England, about 15 miles North of Liverpool and right on the coast, just south of Southport.
It's an RAF basic flying base mainly, where new jockey's get their basic training on Grob Tutors, which are very similar to Piper Tomahawks, but there are a few civilian flying clubs based there too. Apart from that they handle other air traffic, air shows etc. Don't get the frontline fighters there often.
Very nice landing, well done
uk its a good landing when u stall before u hit! nice landing!
Good job, that was a very good landing, stall horns during landings are just a prove of good landing technique. Besides it doesn't mean you are stalling but that you are about to!
Awesome landing!
@jm431 and also the runway number is the magnetic heading, so in this case, they landed on runway 16L the heading is 160. also the L is for left, R is for right because the runways are parallel, so both their headings are 160. so if you had runway with a heading of 360, the runway would be runway 36 and if there were another parallel they would be either 36L or 36R. also, the runway numbers are different on both ends, they are opposite so at the other end of runway 36 would be runway 18, for 180
That was a cool video. Always wanted to fly, never learned how. (Except for video games)
awesome, my instructor just took me out to van nuys for some cross country training
Bravo Dude! I got to about 2:15 and was like "holy crap he really is crabbing!"
Great landing! Never flown a 172, but the 152's are great fun (and stable) in crosswinds! :)
Yeah, you can pretty much pick any pitch with 40 degrees heh. Won't go much faster than 80 no matter what you do, with those barn doors hangin out hehe. You are completely correct about safety though! Even though you can slip at much slower speeds, its nice to have a cushion between uncoordinated flight above stall speed, and uncoordinated flight below it :-)
@matims04 in the high wing cessnas the stall warning is an early warning device that kicks in just before the stall, as the aircraft aproches the stall the horn increases in volume and pitch. the horn here is at the warning stage. it is very normal to get this on a landing. most of my best landings have happened just as the horn sounds.
@jm431 Well, runways are numbered according to their orientation on a compass. For example if you were to land on runway 36, you would be heading directly North or on a 360º heading. That same runway in the opposite direction is runway 18, and you would be landing directly South or on a 180º heading. So while you're SUPPOSED to study the airport map and area charts, you can tell which runway is which in the air by referencing your compass (or directional gyroscope if you have one)
"Crabbing" (a forward slip) is for losing altitude quickly (especially for flapless aircraft). A better crosswind procedure is the sideslip, in which the rudder keeps the aircraft's nose in line with the runway centerline while banking into the wind to prevent being blown downwind from the runway. While "crabbing" to counter a crosswind on final is commonly misused procedure, the better method is the sideslip (so named because the wind is coming from one side or the another. Give it a try.
Like all the others have said, great landing, especially considering the factors (and with a camera in your face haha) stall warning sounded at the perfect time in the flare and everything - liked the shot of the wheels too.
Nice landing! I love the sound of the stall warning just off the runway or just after touching down!
Very nice landing indeed! I lve the stall horn going when waiting for the other wheel to touch down.
This is....comparable..... to my best landing...... ahem...
OK!!! THAT WAS BETTER THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER DONE!!!!
Good show, man!
:)
Nicely done! That was good crabbing technique, however a touch of right rudder at the end wouldn't have hurt, it's always ideal to be straight as possible at touchdown. As far as the centerline issue, that was pretty close if you ask me. 5 stars!
Amazing XW landing!!!!
Yes, you missed something. At 1:05 he said tower asked him to switch to 16L, which he did. Also, it was slightly off centerline, but at least he was on the upwind side of it. Not a bad strategy, particularly if you're in a strong x-wind.
Hey you know what they say about any landing you walk away from! That was a great landing.
Stuck the landing dude.. Bravo...
That was his plane's stall alarm going off. Because you're feathering the pitch when you come in for landing, the plane often exceeds the critical angle of attack. This creates a disruption of airflow above the wing and results in a loss of lift, hence, a stall.
Very cool. Nice landing btw
Runways are generally numbered by their magnetic head. When there are parallel runways (side by side in the same direction) they identify them by left and right. So if there is a 16L, there will also be a 16R.
great landing!
@jm431 Runway numbers are coordinated with what direction the runway runs. On a 360 degree standard compass North is designated 360 degrees, East is 90 degrees on the compass, South is 180 degrees on the compass and West is 270 degrees on the compass. Therefore, if you were directed by Air Traffic Control to land on 'Runway 27', you would know that you would be landing on a runway oriented East/West, the other side of the runway therefore would be 'Runway 9'.
@ThePeapod666 Actually you are supposed to touch down with ZERO side slip. You do not want the aircraft to be moving across the runway longitudinally when it touches. That would put a side load on the landing gear and could case a ground loop. What you want to do is touch down with the upwind wheel first (as I'm sure the pilot in this video knows). Then you touch down with the downwind wheel, and finally the nose wheel.
Three engines on the tail, looks like an old Boeing 727, still a few of them flying, mainly doing cargo work now. Very popular with pilots because of its high power/weight ratio.
As a flight instructor, Im used to saying this alot,"GET ON THE CENTERLINE", LOL. at least the stall horn was going off, not bad.
yes, that's exactly what it means.
16 means that the runways headings are 160º (clockwise) of the magnetic north (almost headed south, wich is 180º).
Beautiful landing man. Gratz
I don't know about some of these comments, But I'll Fly with you any day! Great job!
try a crosswind landing where you land on the upwind wheel first, then hold off downwind wheel as long as is possible by gradually adding in full deflection of the ailerons to hold the downwind wheel off the ground as long as possible, then finally after the mains are down (hold aileron towards upwind) and gently bring the nose down. Until you have made a crosswind landing where you are flying down the runway for at least a few seconds with only the upwind wheel on the ground, keep practicing.
Nice Landing!
great flying!
Stalling isn't bad on the flair. It ensures you won't bounce. And the horn itself doesn't mean you've stalled, just that you are within 5-10 kts of stalling in a 172S.
you got lotsa good flying vids man. thansk
awsome landing! good job.
Very nice transition from the crab to touchdown. Thanks for taking your friend for a ride and allowing us to watch! Two things I noticed, allow me to point them out - keeping in mind I'm far from perfect myself. First, why drag the final approach in with power AND flaps? What precisely are those flaps doing for you there except burning extra gas and decreasing your chances of stretching the glide should your powerplant fail? Staying clean and high that far out is much smarter.
Very nice landing, wish I had done it!
@jm431 You have a sense of where you are in relation to the field by what direction you're flying. If you're flying 'north" and there are two parallel east/west runways, then they will be going from left to right in your windscreen, with the most southerly one 'before' the northerly one. It's actually not that big a deal.
NICE LANDING!!!
great landing man!!!
Nice landing.. camera man did a nice job too. =)
@jm431 It is very easy.Even if you haven't looked at the chart they tell you for example to land on runway 16
That means that this runway has a heading of 160 degrees.That means that if you land or take off from it then you will have a heading of 160.So when you apprach the airport you look at your heading indicator.If you are lined up with the runway then you'll have a heading of 160.If not then just see where 160 and then find a runway that has a heading of 160.
Fly safe and fly on!
I soloed last week :D
wow nice landing!
Ya these guys are correct, drop wing towards wind and keep nose aligned with centerline with rudder. Land one wheel first then bring the opposite wheel down.
Great landing
Great Pilot dude
You know, I was a passenger on a Piper Warrior once coming into land at an airfield that had 3 runways criss crossing each other in a triangular fashion, I'm pretty sure the tower told him to land on 07L ! I didn't see parallel runways, just the main 07 one we were approaching!
God knows what he could have meant.
With the above video you can see two runways side by side, so I guess it's obvious what it means, but because of the earlier experience I had to check you know.
Very nice landing sir.
I think you did a great job man, don't worry about the other comments!
On round out, stalling while landing isn't a bad thing. It's actually a good thing. At least you won't bounce! Alot of my best shortfield landings take place with the stall horn going off on my flair-- then boomp on the ground.
@desiang1 depends on ur approach speed . if u come in hauling ass ur gonna bounce for sure n ur gonna need a hell of alot more drag to prevent bounce. coming in at about 70 65 with a little flare after plane settles give you a smooth landing
@jm431 Also, no prior knowledge of runway numbers would be necessary prior to landing because the pilot already knows why runways are numbered the way that they are. Runway numbering is standard, the designations are not arbitrary assignments. If air traffic control asks you to land on 'Runway 18' you know you're going to be looking for the runway going North/South. The Right/Left designation (18R/18L) means there are two parallel runways going the same direction. The opposite or 18 is 36. :)
The stall warning is just what I want to hear just before the wheels squeak on the runway
I dip the wing about half way on final. Gives me plenty of time to dial it in and get the feel for the winds.
Nice landing, I certainly couldn't do any better.
Nice job, loved the video!
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Ability to stay in control sand not flaring and praying for touchdown should be the ultimate goal.
Nice landing.
@denhou1974 i agree. i may be a student pilot, but a real pilot none the less
I understand what you mean. Its all about the wording. It was a very good video cause your camera man knew how to capture it. So,according to the title, you have cool and amazing describing....the landing. A good example of what I'm trying to say would be putting a period after amazing. That'll send a slightly different message. There are much better ways of changing it but I'm not going there.
Secondly, in a lightly wing-loaded AC such as a Cessna, after landing in a strong crosswind? Consider positioning your ailerons into the wind. Here's a suggestion - if you ever get the opportunity to get a tailwheel endorsement, go for it. It would help you with both of the issues I mentioned. Just to show that I'm not a hater, if you ever get to Houston, drop me a line and we'll go for a hop in my J-3. Sort of a reward for being such a good ambassador for GA.