I usually fly the Garret conversion. However, every time it goes for maintenance I fly the PT6. Your video is always my first port of call when Ihere the plane is gone for maintenance and I need to remember how to start it 😂
@aeroplanetoby love your work. I flew the 1900d in Afghanistan for 3 years. And Sudan, Congo, Algeria, Mali, and Ghana. Super flows and logic. The way all pilots should be thinking particularly under stress( checklists are mandatory as a backup) but there are times when you need to get out of there. Great Australian pilot..
As a student pilot, who one day hopes to fly the 208, I really enjoyed this video. Fantastic explanation of the start process…thoroughly informative, thank you.
Exelent and very informative explanation of the pt6 start procedure. Not just what you do, but why you do it and what to expect if you dont do it. This guy would be (if he isn't already) a good flight instructer.
Hi Toby, that is a very good video, thank you! I do not understand the first part: you usually start the engine with props in feather position, you mentioned, because of the airflow- but if in feather position, you will not get a lot of airflow around the aircraft, right? Please explain again.
You're welcome, thanks! That's correct, if it's in feather then the propeller is barely pushing any air, so it is just reducing the amount of noise and dust etc we're blowing for a little bit longer until we unfeather the propeller to start taxiing.
Thanks for the feedback! That one is a Garmin Aera 796, it has its own internal battery so if you lose the starter-generator, the standby alternator, and the battery, then you can still find your way home!
You mentioned starting the aircraft with prop flat. Something you might do intentionally, shut down w/o feathering? Could you tell me about those times Toby?
G’day mate, thanks for the comment. On shut down you can feather the prop first if you’re going to be sitting there for a bit (feathering the prop stops the amount of prop wash we’re blowing around), but we can also leave it in fine, cut the fuel, and then feather the prop. The prop is feathered to stop the rotation of the gearbox quicker and so minimise the rotation without oil pressure.
We cut the start if it reaches 850 degrees because the Cessna limit is 1090, but if it’s racing towards that there isn’t much margin before it goes over. The 805 you’re thinking of is the ITT limit for takeoff (time limited to a minute).
Only thing i woukd add is to be ready to cut fuel if you suspect a hot start by always having your hand on the condition lever during the start holding it out of the gate so you just yank it back without having to move it out from the stop. Hes pointing stuff out for the purposes of the video but this is what should be done.
I take it this is an older Caravan , but not old enough to have steam gauges. P & W Canada was the last major company to introduce FADEC , they sat on their back side till the threat came from GE on the horizon. The new PT-6 now are finally one button start, computer look after everything. Which P & W should be one of the first to have since they have a US parent company to pave the way. I find the exhaust system weird, and different from other PT-6, why that long ungainly looking square pipe, when other s have just a curve pipe on either sides. Maybe an older design dated to the first Caravans.
This one is a 1995 model, so originally had steam gauges. But has been retrofitted with the G600 set up. You're right, there is now a FADEC version of the PT6, but as far as I know hasn't made it into many production aeroplanes yet!
Stupid question from someone who does not have a clue but why is the start up on an airplane engine so complictated when compared to say a car or tractor
Yep, it's just so that we don't miss anything. And different to a car, we turn everything on individually rather than everything being switched by the key. That's so that we can isolate items if needed!
For the after start, I continue from the start switch (off), then to the fuel boost (back to norm), standby power (on), avionics 1 and 2 (on), and then I go across to the prop lever to bring it out of feather. After that, I do a big, upside down “C” around the panel to check all of the switches and engine indications. I hope that helps!
Absolutely an A+ tutorial on the Caravan PT-6. Please keep teaching your attention to detail!
The sound of a turbine never gets old.
That moustache is fabulous
Thank you!
Best pt6 starting video I’ve seen so far. Very patient and thorough.
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback!
I usually fly the Garret conversion. However, every time it goes for maintenance I fly the PT6. Your video is always my first port of call when Ihere the plane is gone for maintenance and I need to remember how to start it 😂
Haha I’m glad to hear the video helps! What do you use the Garret machine for? Skydiving ops? That extra power would be great!
No checklist?
best video for msfs 2024. thank you!
I liked the way you teach. Congrats!!! Nice is to put a camera in fronto of the cockpit for us to be able to see everything also. Thank you
Thanks mate, I appreciate that! It's been a while since the last Caravan video, I'll try and make some more soon.
About to start training on the caravan. Your the man, thank you!
Awesome stuff, you'll love it! They're a great machine!
Great video. Very thorough and informative. I'll hopefully get to fly the Caravan one day!
Thanks for the feedback! They are a great aeroplane that’s for sure!
With a mustache like that you can start anything!
Almost anything 🤣
@@jory11kehler hahahahahaha
Use a great teacher of this thank you
Ur good here
Awesome competence mate
Gonna watch this over and over. !
Thanks for the feedback mate!
@aeroplanetoby love your work. I flew the 1900d in Afghanistan for 3 years. And Sudan, Congo, Algeria, Mali, and Ghana. Super flows and logic. The way all pilots should be thinking particularly under stress( checklists are mandatory as a backup) but there are times when you need to get out of there. Great Australian pilot..
Nicely done! I trained in the Caravan at Flight Safety in the States, but unfortunately have not had the opportunity to actually fly the aircraft.
Thanks! You'll love it when you get the chance to fly the actual aircraft, they're a great machine!
New Caravan driver here. Awesome explanation and much appreciated.
You’ll love your career on the Caravan! They’re a brilliant machine.
Fantastic, nothing like an expert willing to share! Well done.
Thanks mate!
Well done!!!
Excellent video and thanks!
Thank you!
Love this!
Thanks!
Fantastic video!
Thank you!
you're crazy informative! Amazing stuff
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback!
As a student pilot, who one day hopes to fly the 208, I really enjoyed this video. Fantastic explanation of the start process…thoroughly informative, thank you.
Thanks for watching! I hope you fly the 208 one day, they’re a great machine!
Exelent and very informative explanation of the pt6 start procedure. Not just what you do, but why you do it and what to expect if you dont do it. This guy would be (if he isn't already) a good flight instructer.
Thanks for the comment! I am an instructor on the C208 type :)
I believe the last engine was an Allison 250-C20B. Especially with the lower stacks and sound. Same turboshaft in the Bell JetRanger
Great video, looking at getting my GTE endorsement one day! Cheers mate
You’re welcome mate, thanks for the feedback!
Kinda matches the stock market stuff and the hospital monitors
Hi Toby, that is a very good video, thank you! I do not understand the first part: you usually start the engine with props in feather position, you mentioned, because of the airflow- but if in feather position, you will not get a lot of airflow around the aircraft, right? Please explain again.
You're welcome, thanks! That's correct, if it's in feather then the propeller is barely pushing any air, so it is just reducing the amount of noise and dust etc we're blowing for a little bit longer until we unfeather the propeller to start taxiing.
Thank you!
Great video, very informative. Thanks Toby. P.S that is a very sexy panel! What's the one to the right of the Garmin 750/650?
Thanks for the feedback! That one is a Garmin Aera 796, it has its own internal battery so if you lose the starter-generator, the standby alternator, and the battery, then you can still find your way home!
Interested in hiring a new CPL holder aha? All jokes aside love your videos great insperation.
Haha, all about the time and place isn’t it! Thanks mate!
You mentioned starting the aircraft with prop flat. Something you might do intentionally, shut down w/o feathering? Could you tell me about those times Toby?
G’day mate, thanks for the comment. On shut down you can feather the prop first if you’re going to be sitting there for a bit (feathering the prop stops the amount of prop wash we’re blowing around), but we can also leave it in fine, cut the fuel, and then feather the prop. The prop is feathered to stop the rotation of the gearbox quicker and so minimise the rotation without oil pressure.
850 degrees or 805?
We cut the start if it reaches 850 degrees because the Cessna limit is 1090, but if it’s racing towards that there isn’t much margin before it goes over. The 805 you’re thinking of is the ITT limit for takeoff (time limited to a minute).
Only thing i woukd add is to be ready to cut fuel if you suspect a hot start by always having your hand on the condition lever during the start holding it out of the gate so you just yank it back without having to move it out from the stop.
Hes pointing stuff out for the purposes of the video but this is what should be done.
This makes the PC-12 start look easy.... actually it is easy. Push a button and sit back for the ride.
This is pretty easy once you get into a flow! But it doesn’t have a fancy button!
I take it this is an older Caravan , but not old enough to have steam gauges. P & W Canada was the last major company to introduce FADEC , they sat on their back side till the threat came from GE on the horizon. The new PT-6 now are finally one button start, computer look after everything. Which P & W should be one of the first to have since they have a US parent company to pave the way. I find the exhaust system weird, and different from other PT-6, why that long ungainly looking square pipe, when other s have just a curve pipe on either sides. Maybe an older design dated to the first Caravans.
This one is a 1995 model, so originally had steam gauges. But has been retrofitted with the G600 set up. You're right, there is now a FADEC version of the PT6, but as far as I know hasn't made it into many production aeroplanes yet!
Stupid question from someone who does not have a clue but why is the start up on an airplane engine so complictated when compared to say a car or tractor
Because we have to follow specific procedures for ultimate safety.
Yep, it's just so that we don't miss anything. And different to a car, we turn everything on individually rather than everything being switched by the key. That's so that we can isolate items if needed!
Everything was nice but the after start you were not clear
For the after start, I continue from the start switch (off), then to the fuel boost (back to norm), standby power (on), avionics 1 and 2 (on), and then I go across to the prop lever to bring it out of feather. After that, I do a big, upside down “C” around the panel to check all of the switches and engine indications. I hope that helps!
What if acations 😅
And th3 yanks and fishing boats ha this is a cool plane
Should never take your hand off the condition lever during the start sequence!
Submarine stuff