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Can this app dethrone Notion? | Anytype First Look
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- I used to use Notion a ton in my early days of personal knowledge management. But I just couldn't get over that it was all in the cloud, had poor offline support, and wasn't great on mobile.
Anytype has arrived on the scene to challenge Notion by being the open source, end-to-end encrypted, local-first alternative with many of the features you know and love already.
In this first look, we'll explore Anytype so you can decide for yourself if it can possibly unseat Notion in your workflow.
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if it's peer-to-peer, local first and open source then I'm 100% in
kinda open source, if you use it commercially there might be some limits on syncing.
but i've been using it for 3 years and it's pretty awesome
@@aronkvh do you have a guide, written or vlog about anytype? im interested to read it
This app is everything i wanted from a notion alternative. I couldn't use notion because it has no offline use which is super inconvenient, and my notes weren't private(they literally have access to anyone's notes which is a big no no).
@@aronkvh I don't think you know what open source means lol
Unfortunately it isn't either. They are hoping to make it that way, but right now, neither
This has the best of Obsidian, Notion, and Capacities in one app. I'm sold.
more explanation pls. interested to know your view about those apps
@@nikkobonganay In short:
Object based data & page design of Capacities.
Formatting and Databases power of Notion.
Local, Offline & Graph of Obsidian.
And Open Source.
@@tavusion just when I've manage to do all of this in Obsidian, this app "happen"
@@tavusion Putting it that way would definitely make me want to try it out.
Yes more explication please
I am observing anytype for quite a while now and the latest developments are promising. My main problem is the actual begin to use the software. I find it difficult to start with. It should be easier by giving some templates for beginners or similar. The start is the problem. If this obstacle is done and you keep working with anytype, the more difficult but useful things will come mor or less automatically. Thanks for your very good video. I will follow you now.
I did some alpha-testing of this app starting quite some time ago. But I put it aside to wait for the beta to be released. Here is my impression...
I really think the emhasis on peer-to-peer, rather than central server under a megacompany's control, will be the key. Anytype could lead the web in a cooperative, privacy-enhanced direction. The Anytype model could help restore the internet to what we originally envisioned when it was just getting started. Or we could continue to allow the web to be controlled by a few large corporations that practice surveillance capitalism. The Notion-like characteristics are not what's important about it. That's just some initial building blocks for users to make stuff with. Anytiype will evolve much further. It is really and entirely new model for the web itself.
I really wanted to like Anytype and I've been testing it for a while too. It's just not there yet, the whole sets/collections thing is underdeveloped and managing tags on multiple items is clunky. I've found that Capacities is basically what I wanted Anytype to be. However, I do really like the Anytype devs and community, they're really supportive, it just needs some more time in the oven.
interesting i found capacities to suck compared to anytypes flexibility and ui/ ux
its not just a "few large corporations" Its the government
Yes please! A lot more on anytype.
I'm excited to see you exploring the app more. I like the look of Anytype but worried about the pace of updates. While Notion has some issues, they have been pushing a lot of updates in the last year.
Definitely exploring this. So much easier to use then all these other apps! A lot lighter of an interface.
I can actually see myself using this app, especially for project management. Notion was a non-starter for me, due to it's lack of E2E, so it's good to know that there's this local first alternative... something I've gotten more into thanks to Logseq and Obsidian.
Thanks for introducing me to Anytype. Peer to peer with structure; exactly what I’ve wanted to see. Now to kick the tires on a couple of projects.
Have fun!
To answer the ending question. Yes. And a matter of fact for a while now I've been using notion for less sensitive things because of its convenience. And using obsidian for everything including everything I use notion for because I don't want to lose it I just either copy and paste it or export it and mark down. I love obsidian but it has its issues of just being time-consuming and yeah. Another video led me to your video going down the rabbit hole of any type. I am still confused about the local first thing. So they do have a server and it's stored on your computer but what makes it more private other than them just saying that it's encrypted or we know that it's encrypted I guess. I guess I'm just a bit confused on how it really works with the cloud. I would love long and depth video of the ins and outs of the company itself. And if I do get into it then obviously tutorials and whatnot. Thanks for the video and have a great one.
Anytype will take over if only they made common operations easier (less clicks) and produce more how-to videos. As another viewer commented, it does have learning curve issues, compared to Notion.
Its nowhere near as good as Logseq or emacs for this type of work. Notion isnt even in the conversation and neither is anytype
Do anytype have canva/whiteboard in?
Tried it today, looks very promising... but for me, it's just not there yet. Main gripes so far: 1) Can't chose the folder on my drive, so I had to make a junction link to use it on my external HD... what? 2) How is it local first if I can't disable sync to the servers without blocking the app with my firewall (that's the solution given on forums...). Can also still learn a thing or two from Notion when it comes to pretty-fying the app, symbols/emojis for pages for instance.
If you log off, keep the code, you can switch from server sync to local sync
Anytype currently lacks contextual search. It doesn't scroll and highlight the keyword among your notes or pages when searched for which is very important for a knowledge management system.
if the maximum of 1 gb to sync between my mobile and my desktop is reached, what happens? Can I set which sets etc. will sync and which not?
When you hit the 1 GB limit on the Anytype app, your files are only stored locally.
This means that any new data you add after using up your free 1 GB storage will only be saved on the device you added it on and won’t sync with your other devices.
As for syncing with Google Drive or OneDrive, Anytype currently doesn’t offer a direct option to sync with Google Drive or OneDrive.
But, it’s mentioned in the Anytype community that it’s possible to back up your data on an external hard drive. This could involve manually moving your Anytype data to Google Drive or another cloud, and it’s said that the ability to self-host is on Anytype’s roadmap, which could allow for more flexibility in the future.
The only reason I’m still using notion daily is bc of the PPV setup and integrations. It took notion a VERY long time to get to where it is now but I’ve stuck w it. That and coda which has much more functionality.
Anytype’s objects are really powerful and make more sense than indiv floating notion or coda blocks. Ideally I’d combine heptabase or scrintal, coda, notion and anytype
I agree, I would love to have a Heptabase/Notion combo app. I’d use the heck out of it.
I really like the concept of the app BUT it looks like the Windows UI from the 90s with ugly icons.
Thank you, great video. I would love to mee more videos on AnyType - It looks really interesting. I need an offline Notion replacement.
I've had access to it, and want them to succeed. That being said, their documentation and videos are not very helpful and all a year old. For my use case, i wanted to build out a bunch of custom objects.....and just could not get it to work. Docs and videos were not helpful.
Overall, I feel Capacities (which is similar in some ways) is much further along and it's now my daily driver.
Yea I saw the same. They def need much more video documentation. I agree about capacities too
I’ll have a look at Capacities as well. I like the idea of Anytype, but I’m with you - pace of development and documentation might hinder them long term
I love Capacties too, but it doesn't have integrated task management. It's been on their roadmap for over a year. 🤨
Thanks for this introduction- very helpful and looks like a pretty interface vs something like obsidian that takes time to personalize. I definitely will explore this app due to the data security feature and offline capabilities that are missing in other apps like roam notion and tana - thanks!
You're very welcome!
HI Justin - first video of yours that I have watched... very nice overview of Anytype. I just learned about this app and want to know all about it. I use Logseq and have been looking at Notion some am weary of what they might do with info to train their AI and I want local first. Going to your library now to see if you have more Anytype videos that can help me get started.
can you make and buy templates in anytype? lets say i want to buy a template like in notion where u can buy templates people have made from etsy, can i do that ?
any updates on how you feel about this software?
Great video and much interest in anytype so my question is what are your views 8 months after the video posted here..
I’d love to hear your opinion even if just a 5-10 min quick update video … just an idea :)
Where is the data saved? I have it on both my Mac and iPhone, and want to use it offline when flying abroad on my iPhone without Mac.
It’s local storage and syncs between devices (and the remote backup server if you keep that in the loop).
@@EffectiveCo but where is “local storage”? On my Mac? iPhone? Both?
@@liorshavt491 local meaning your own device
While I love the look of AnyType, it's wildly unintuitive and seems to lack very basic capabilities (you can't even batch-add a tag in a database).
If Anytype wants to be complete and the best in category, right now it's lacking. Many areas dont seem intuitive at first. What impresses me is their apparent desire to improve and invite suggestions. It seems like a smaller project trying to find the most efficient paths to improve and compete with bigger goliaths.
Looks very interesting. Will have a look later again. It's too new for me. Stick to obsidian for the moment, as you can easily switch from obsidian to something else as it's mostly just md files. With anytype it would not be easy to migrate to something else.
Edit: Tried it out a bit, it can export to md. What I dislike so far is that I cannot really structure the notes in folders. It's a bit too chaotic for me.
You can structure objects in collections
please exlpore more and compare it to notion
I can't even Undo things ive done with it. Sometimes it's very clunky why is that?
I need something that is super iPad friendly. A lot of features missing in iOS version.
Yeah specially the sharing to anytype
I haven't explored the iOS app yet so thanks for the insights. Craft might be worth checking out, or if you're open to other classes of apps, Logseq has a great mobile app too.
so much better than notion. like compare anytypes gallery view to notions, or doesn't Even compare, esp on mobile
With P2P does that mean my files will be stored in other people PC? How they prevent people from try decrypting the data in their storage?
It’s not peer to peer like BitTorrent - it mostly means you can sync from your phone to your computer without having a server in the middle. Though they do have an encrypted backup server Anytype owns and runs.
Any thoughts on Heptabase, mem, or lazy ai?
Same
I just played around with Heptabase, will add the others to the list too.
I much prefer anytype's model of local first. I need top read more about how this 1gb storage limit works though,.
Prettier Obsidian?
Notion was never the king to be dethroned and Anytype isnt the same
does it work offline????
Anytype all the way!
price? is it free? totally?
For now it’s free, but I would imagine backup sync to their server will be for a fee in the future.
why has it been in development for so long? is it a sideproject? 4 years seems a lot
I love it
Can you do a Capacities vs Anytype video
Capacities is on my list to look at!
Also perhaps compared to Walling?
"Personal knowledge management journey" lol
Obsidian exists already
Is a bit complicated for some people
@@zakaria20062 the better for us
I hate obsidian
I tried it for 2 weeks, not for me. Obsidian is not good for people who like to format their notes
@@zakaria20062 obsidian doesn't have to be complicated. Honestly it can be as simple as notepad with links. You can adopt functionalities along the way. I dropped it once the first time bec I tried to incorporate too much at once before I figured out how I want to use it. But then I got back to it and only adapted things when I needed them.
0:25 I'm moving out for the very same reason. I don't want AI anywhere near my "second brain"....
Does this have vim mode?
I do not believe so. Here's a forum thread where you can share your support though: community.anytype.io/t/vim-like-modes-keybindings/1212
Its developing by russians, so GOODBYE!
Thanks, that would be a no-go, of course. Do you have a source? Granted, they do mention a Swiss association, but that might be a cover-up, just like ONLYOFFICE is Russian, yet they cleverly hide it behind a Latvian company.
You should be much more careful with your words, „I guarantee you they will take (all) your data to train notion ai“ if I would be notion I would sue you if it isn’t true and I think it probably isn’t
That's a fair point and I stand corrected - Notion doesn't use your data for AI training unless you opt in. I guess that's my cynicism toward most SaaS providers coming through. Thanks for helping.
@@EffectiveCo no problem, thank you for answering, I understand that people tend towards simplifications and think the others might not take it literally nevertheless, but I think to make clear strong statements it is important to only say things you know for sure
by the way otherwise I liked your video and also think anytypes privacy oriented decentralized approach looks like it should be in the future, but lets wait and see if they can get all the important features and api connections like notion or coda this way. @@EffectiveCo