Mt82 VS T56 MAGNUM XL
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2017
- I show you the difference between a magnum XL and a 2015 MT82 transmission, and tell you why i'm going with a t56 over The stock transmission.
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MT82
Mantic clutch
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I truly appreciate your videos man.
Got both the Barton 3 post shifter and the MGW shifter on two different mustangs. All I can tell you is that they really make no difference in how this terrible mt82 operates. The Barton gives you more of a positive shift where you can hear and feel the gear slide in kind of like the t56. The MGW is more of a stock feel but offers more resistance to lockout. What I would say is go ahead save your money and put it towards a t56 magnum swam a few years down the road.
I had a 2003 cobra 10 years ago and I can't stop watching your videos hahaha. When I decide to grab a Ford again I'm gonna be a guru because of you.
That last one you could see the difference ...when you push that pedal to the floor/shift quick "that's awesome man" love the video
Always super informative! Keep the great videos coming.
Great information in your videos. thank you very much for being so descriptive and knowledgable about these things! gonna check out some other videos of yours. :)
I really enjoy your vids, you give tons of good advice and insight, wish I would of found your channel sooner Lol..
Alex u always got really good information
Great videos really helped out with decision making on my end. Definitely going to save for t56 magnum for my 2017 gt
What was wrong with the 17gt
Great video! T56 may be in Boss in a couple years lol. The MT82 just doesn't like shifts after 6500 rpms....consistently anyways. Thanks for sharing.
He almost said "Yolodouchebag out." lol
Hahahaha
Good video, T56 is the shit ! Damn 10k subscriber's real quick lol make that extra pocket change yolo
Excellent episode.
Thanks for the video. I get some many people flipping out when I tell them I put 4.30s in my car after a 6060 swap. Going to send them this video to shut them up.
Some people simply don't know shit.
Damn straight to the point no driving around wasting time
Is that 3 bolt hole flange setup on the mt 82 a failure point?
Speedometer wires are only used as of 2 on that T56 while MT82 uses 3 wires with a return wire included. I heard that the return wire must be grounded to the body in order to let the speedometer on a cluster function properly without any additional modifications. I may consider swapping with either T56 or TR6060 if it is not that complicated at all.
Thanks for the vid(s). Why does the T56 solid shifter mount create more NVH? Is there a different tranny mount used?
Do you have a recommendation on what fluid to use in the MT-82? Thanks!
Hello,, Im looking to buy a 2011 GT. So is the Mt82 okay to rip around with if I'm just going to add bolt ons to the car ? Thanks your videos are very informative and not cheesy like everyone else !! Cheers
I have the Barton shifter on my 2018 gt mustang and it makes whistle noice when in high speed. Any idea why?
you'll love the upgrade. one of the best mods I have done I had a local shop build my drive shaft for me same day. once we upgraded that we found the next weak link. blew two built 8.8 rear ends. after that just decided to go to a 9 inch. it has held together great so far.
8.8 just as strong as 9in and more efficient. 9inch burns 20-40wheel more over 8.8. I know stock 8.8's running 850wheel for years. They are not weak links.
maximus vonce the way the rear end companies explained it to me was it wasn't the power it was the weight and violence of dropping the clutch that does it. they told me to go 8.8 again too until I told em how heavy the car was. Was told by Mosier that anything above 3200-3400 lbs at that weight and power will continue to grenade 8.8s. which is what we were doing. the proof is that every 30-40 passes we were replacing the 8.8s. Went to the 9 inch and 200+ passes later no signs of trouble. they might hog a bit more power but we gained almost a tenth after the swap. My guess is the 8.8s would likely hold together better in an auto though.
Eaton TruTrac 8.8 you will not grenade. 9inch rear is stone age technology. 8.8 superior design and efficiency. You are losing power with dinosaur 9inch. Call J&S gear in Huntington beach, Ca and ask for Jon. He put an 8.8 Eaton TruTrac with 410 gears into my fuel injected 68 Mustang. Awesome rearend. He never uses 9inch rears anymore.
How much power you making to blow up 8.8 rears
We actually were using the Eaton TruTrac in the 8.8. And it did hold together. I actually still have it on the shelf. It was always the ring gear that would let go. Every time we pulled em out every single tooth would be cracked ( well the ones that hadn't sheered off.) I even still have em hanging on the garage wall. LOL. After blowing through the stock rear end, then two built ones something had to change. After talking with 3 different Rear end builders, Moser, Currie, and Strange they all ended up advising me to go with the 9 inch. In fact one of them stated late model, heavy, high HP mustangs racers that had gone through a couple 8.8 rear ends were one of their more common customers for the 9 inch upgrade. I'd consider the 8.8 again if we drop 800 lbs off the car but that isn't gonna happen any time soon. So far the 9" pro gear with a spool is holding together just fine with no problems, MANY more passes without breaking, and didn't hurt ET at all. The quick swap rear end is a nice option should we ever want to take advantage of it as well. Keep in mind this isn't just a weekend racer we take out once and get a few passes in once in awhile. No longer a street car and never sees the road. We beat the ever loving crap out of it with usually 30-50 passes every single weekend. All with a pretty darn violent launch. Kudos to Livernois for building a great motor that holds together through it all. The motor itself already has close to 600 passes on it and has been running like a champ. No issues at all.
Hey Alex, what is the likely hood of the clutch blowing up and taking out your leg. I am looking into the T56 Magnum for my 2V. i have a stock T56 bell housing should I ditch it and go with SFI bell housing?
hey bro love your videos, always good quality info. Hey I need your help. is the blowfish racing bracket a must have for the 08 year. its pretty expensive and I don't want to waste mhm money, and pay labor for a mild difference. please respond. Thank you
I think the futura with the coyote will be badass, I support this heavily
Dammit Alex leave the daily driver alone lol
I want to run the Magnum in my 2011. Debating which gear ratio set to get. I have 3.73's in the rear and the car is running a twin screw. I don't do track racing so it is mostly for driving and having a bit of fun now and then...
Hell yeah! Fox body swap in the future!! Slowly acquiring parts for my Fairmont wagon swap! Should be dropping the engine in in July and mocking shit up!
Does it bolt up pretty easily in a S550?
If you would mount the shifter in the front hole on the T56 it would be to far foward, it would be under the dash, the mounting point you refer to is the point that S10 trucks used on the T5
What are the specs on the new drive shaft you were waiting on, that would really help me out.
JPC should have a DSS driveline in stock for that conversion. If you need any ideas on some of the custom bits you need to do I have a swap thread on Mustang6g under "Mistress".
What are these tires at 10:19?? And what are their size?? :)
Go ahead with the Foxbody "Sleeper" AKA Grandpa build.
Doesn't the 2016 + 2017 camaro come stock with a version of this transmission
Hey Alex are you doing any coyote swaps for individuals ? I have been trying to get my car together for almost 3 yrs. I tried putting it in last week come to find out I have to change k member due to bbk headers don't work with team z. Now procharger pulley doesn't line up with ATI , McCloud twin disk is not working out with my T-56 ,and also header on RH side is up against oil pan on the end of it. Extremely frustrated with this swap. Any advice or help would be awesome. Raymond Jacksonville, FL
I installed a t56 in my 2014 5.0 and when I’m in Mexico going 100+ it vibrates very aggressive (feels like it’s gunna blow up) seen it could be a driveshaft issue?? It’s drives perfectly fine up until 100+
Heard driveshaft shop balances them at low speeds and not at high speeds
Thanks 💪
Would a 2010 transmission fit a 2006 transmission mustang both auto
I’m thinking about buying a new edge gt, it’s a manual, I wanna swap it to a 6 speed would an mt82 handle the power of a 2v?
Does the stock length driveshaft work with the T-56 Magnum
Where you get the mt-82 with so low mileage. I need one myself
I have a 2012 mustang gt with 44k miles and idky my 5th grinds bad. Plz anyone help me on what to do to fix this issue.
Why did you go with the 2.66 version over 2.97?
Thanks for the info... oh man you luv that Genesis...
for the new 2018 models do you think a upgraded clutch and barton 3 shifter with brackets are enough to make the mt82 feel more like a tremac? or should i sell my liver and get the gt350 lol
Sell your liver and a kidney and get a gt350r
@ yolodouchebag isn't that 5 liter V8 dual overhead cam that's in the Genesis R isn't it the same thing as a coyote?
Richard Greene no
I suggest a on3 turbo review. everyone is running them out their. sure it's not a hellion, Procharger, Vmp kit but for the money you can't beat it. 1500 bucks for the kit minus fuel upgrade of course. you should compare it to that one turbo kit something pony? I think it's pony down or something to that effect.
Is there any other transmition you can install besides the stock mt82 on a 13 gt/cs?
the t56 magnum can go in it
Can you give me any dimension differences? Currently in the process of swapping my new edge and I'm trying to compare fitment. Not sure if the mt82 will fit.
Nope
Smart move
do you think if a new Shelby comes out it will make the price of s197 gt500s go down. and your video of which gt500 is best was very informative
Of course it will!
Where can we find a used t56 magnum xl?? & Who is Ben Kellermer??
You can get the whole kit on power Americantrain you can watch them channel on RUclips
I like the t56 mag. Just hate that slip yoke. But hey what can ya do.
Just wondering if u could do a video of mods u would do in a stock 2011to 2014 gt biggest bang for the bucks brands of shifters u like cold air just want a good driver car but can go to the track and bust some ass
Was wondering your thoughts on the mt82. I wanna get 2018 or newer in the next 2 years. I want it for a road track car. Staying very stock. Maybe tuned and Intake header exhaust suspension work. That's all. Not big power but hard beating.
The new mustang will have a twin disk clutch, so it will be perfect for high rpm shifts and should be better than the current cars.
Alejandro Flores nice. Thanks for the quick response
After hearing that class action lawsuit on chinesium MT82; I'd rather be on a 6R80 for reliability. ü
Agreed
so your saying with a mt82 3.31 is the best gear to have not 3.73 ?
HELL NO!!!!!!! But it all depends on what your gonna do with the car
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The reverse lockout flange cover plate on the T56 can have a fit issue in the S550
Delete it
Hi, I was about checking out 2014 GT deals here in Europe, when I came across this info on transmission issues. So is there any hope to find a GT with drivable MT82 with no issues, or should I think right away to add 4k€ for this T56 alternative transmission ?
Yes, the mt82 is mostly a very good trans, it gets a bad reputation by crappy drivers.
@@YDBT4LIFE thx Alejandro, good to know. For the 1st GT experience I would not be ready to invest in T56.
So if the car was not / will not be used on track, MT82 can stand it and there is a chance to find one in decent condition. So what kind of checks before purchase must be done and what "symptoms" should make me stay away from a particular car? Thank you.
Hey Alejandro, I just got my first Coyote ('11 Premium Manual) and I have noticed that shifting feels soft and fragile, eerily similar to my '99 SLK230. What would you recommend around $250ish that'll give the MT82 a little longer life and more solid feel to it? I doubt I'll be going 500+ HP any time soon.
maybe a blowfish bracket.
Thanks for the reply! Can one be added with the stock shifter still on the car, or would I need an MGW or Barton as well?
JustCARS i did the blowfish bracket with the barton shifter and it sucked, too much rattle.
So the stock shifter with the blowfish bracket worked way better more quiet, but the sloppiness of the shifter went away.
Sooo quick question, I talked to you at TX2K17 and you recommended going with a Mantic clutch, well I'm looking to swap trans and can't decide if I want to go with the Magnum or just say screw it and do a TH400 swap
Depends on what you want to do. I can't tell you what to decide, but if you are sticking with a stick. Go mantic.
woo!
Are u from Houston
How bad is the mt82?
Hey Alex how do i request and buy a tune from you?
Jose Martinez vmpperformance.com
Dynotech makes a driveshaft that'll bolt right up and you don't have to wait. But I'm sure you already know that. That's what I used on my T56 conversion.
I went with DSS
They make good shit. You go carbon fiber?
Fuck no
$$$$
Does the t56 fit a 2015??
Yes.
I noticed that most of the cars you prefer have been of the Ford brand. Can you speak on there reliability compared to Chevy and Dodge?
Dj Williams nope. Don't care to. I specialize in ford.
What's the weight difference between the two trans? The T56 is much smaller.
The magnum is heavier, i can weight them anothe rtime, but the t56 is quite heavy.
usdm420 only looks smaller because the bellhousing isn't connected
I think the t56 is around 135 dry
I'm kinda surprised u would choose the Barton or the mgw. Thought u had a mgw shifter.
nope..switched to barton hybrid
what vehicle's have the t56 magnum in them?
It's basically a TR6060 which is the transmission that comes in the GT500's.
Knowledge is the Key Ls1/ls6 fbody camaros/trans ams/gtos
vipers, 03/04 cobra has a t56 not sure if its consider a magnum
in for genny racing vids
What's up man will you be showing the install on this like you did with the fuel system? If so please let us know I need to upgrade my transmission too and this one I want to swap since it seems to be the stronger option
ozz mann yes
Why would you go with the 2.66 over the 2.97?
You know your shit man
i love my magnum in my 13 one of the best purchases i made. im still running my 3.73 gears
How does it drive? Is it a but slower on the street?
@@spaceman1827 no not really.. i purchased the close ratio version with the 2.97 first gear.. so the gears are just a tad longer then the mt82 and highway is much better rpms with this gearing..... if u dont plan to boost a coyote and want the magnum trans 2.97 i would suggest a 4.10 rear gear it would be a great combo for all motor
@@bullitt1204 Awesome I do plan on boosting the car so I would keep the 3.73s?
@@spaceman1827 if u get the 2.97 ratio version yes i would keep the 3.73 like i did mine put out over 800 wheel and she was a mexico killer
Damn Skippy
Your content is awesome man... i sent you a message on Instagram.... maybe looking to just speak with you about my car, and if you're still local to me, have some work done, I can tell you really know your shit. Keep coming with the vids man!
truth be told i wouldn't fuck with a MT82 glad ford going with the new 10 Speed
Why on earth would anyone care about putting an MT82 into anything else? The only reason to have one laying around is to keep a Mustang stock and replace the one that eventually blows up.
Big fan of the Tremec/Borg Warner transmissions and wished the lower model Mustangs stuck with them 2011+.
because it's an excellent transmission, super smooth engagement and a great gear stack. A built mt82 in a fox with 331 gears is a HIGHLY desirable trans.
I don't know man, it developed a bad reputation for several reasons rather quick at time of release; too much documentation to hold my confidence. It's decent feeling with a better clutch and shift linkage for sure, but that's external. Sure, one could build it up as you mention, but thankfully there are plentiful options out there. I got too nervous about that rap and threw a TKO 600 in one for a turbo project years back. Good choice on that T56 family, it's a beast!
I agree
It's a trash transmission.
Yeah mt 82s are garbage
Does new transmission need a tune?🤔
This fucking Alex knows his shit lol
Looks like Ford is finally making parts more interchangeable.
Where have you been? I made that comment 2 years ago. And I've been working on Ford's for 40 years so I just might have an idea of what Im talking about. Ford's aren't Legos like GM.
Yea definitely almost said yolodouchebag out 😂
Down bro !... you know a lot of this shit!!... interesting 🤔
Holy shit , can the stock clutch really blow up , cut through everything and fuck ur foot up ? Kinda scary lol
TwoLaneRacing absolutely it can.
Dam ma.....I want to move to Florida so bad mang! I live up here in Seattle and this shit is broke busted and can't be trusted
La transmicion MT82 ...quedaria en un motor 427 ford galaxie
No
Que transmicion estándar quedaría que tuviera el performance del Mustang ...o alguna automática que fuera buena en la ciudad y carretera
Ese motor traía una C6 así lo consegui
"DAILY DRIVER" , hahahaha, that didn't last long....
WTF A FAIRMONT IS THAT GRANDMA'S CAR LMAO
good info as always. funny how ford part were the go to for unbreakable cars now is like everything to weak to go big power
haha my mom had a futura 2000
Just blew my MT82 on a 2015 with 38,000 miles. Started with some grinding and noise in the shifter then needed it towed home. Complete garbage and Ford should do better than outsourcing for cheap Chinese crap.
My 2018 with 41k just shit its mt 82. Im the 3rd owner. I dont think its all "bad drivers"
Mt82.. more like 'empty 82'
Mustangs are such a piece of junk. I could put up with the engine tick, cheap plastic interior and glitchy electronics, but that crap Chinese manual 6 speed in the GT was the last straw for me! Sold the Mustang after 2 months! I bought a real car, with a quality transmission and couldn't be happier! No wonder Ford stopped making cars...I guess we should all be thankful for that!
Why are you commenting on every single one of my videos basically telling people you can't drive LOL you're a joke
Alex if you see this. Im feeling a lot like this guys comment right now i cant lie.....im a die hard mustang fan. I bit the bullet and got a used 2018. It just broke the shift forks like you did and it shakes like hell. Im going to try and get it warrantied, but i feel the only peace of mind option is to get a t56. Its really shitty considering i just out 10 grand down on a 40k car just to have to pay another 8 grand to have t56 with a mantic so it will drive like it should without breaking..... i might as well have bought a fkn mach 1. Don't tell me i dont know how to drive you broke yours too😂 the mt-82 has a bad name for a reason. I didnt believe it until i owned one myself