T5 Compared to a TKX For a Classic Ford

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2021
  • This is a simple little video comparing a T5 and a TKX. I go over the major differences (size, weight, input shaft and output shaft), parts needed to replace a T5 with a TKX and talk about one potential issue when installing a TKX in a classic Mustang.
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  • @soulsurfer8797
    @soulsurfer8797 Год назад +3

    This was an extremely thorough and informative video.

  • @arizonanorte3180
    @arizonanorte3180 Год назад +1

    great video" most of us are in limbo when it comes to whats different and what works with the 5 speed Tremecs. Now we now 🙌

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Год назад +1

      Glad I could help!!

  • @Mr.EeToMyself
    @Mr.EeToMyself 10 месяцев назад

    The best explanation that anyone could have given... much appreciated.
    (Edited for my poor typing ability)

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @geoffmooregm
    @geoffmooregm 8 месяцев назад +2

    I installed the earlier TKO in my father in-laws 66 Chevelle behind a 396. Went well and is a pleasure to drive versus the old 4 Speed. You can actually talk while on the highway!

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  8 месяцев назад +1

      That overdrive gear makes all the difference in the world.

  • @johnbarker5009
    @johnbarker5009 Год назад

    Thanks, great summary!

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @donaldhill2775
    @donaldhill2775 Год назад +2

    Fitted a T5 to my mustang with the help provided by your website, thank you !

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Год назад

      Glad I could help!!!

    • @donaldhill2775
      @donaldhill2775 Год назад

      @@dazecars Plagiarised your work if I’m honest, went from auto to T5, rose joints, copied your bracket and a land rover slave cylinder, works great, least I can do is say thanks !
      I’m in Europe so parts are difficult, 👍

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Год назад

      @@donaldhill2775 Glad I could help and thanks for the honesty. I am a car guy first so if I can help someone make something work and not sell them something I am fine with that.

    • @classics289
      @classics289 Год назад

      What cross member did you use and how did you get the parking brake to work? And did the floor support interfere?

    • @donaldhill2775
      @donaldhill2775 Год назад

      @@classics289 Hi, x member can’t find the invoice, California something, tubular one, is extremely tight but you can panel beat the tunnel a little to get more space, choice of gearbox mount rubber can make a difference too ! I also fitted a quick shift designed for a mustang 2 which further complicated matters, you can move the E brake around a bit within reason and it’s fine, I have 2 1/2 inch jba headers & exhaust and due to the H pipe I actually had to mount my E brake bracket 1 inch higher, works fine, hope this is helpful,
      Don Hill

  • @akfish8106
    @akfish8106 2 года назад

    Great job explaining things...

  • @Glens1965
    @Glens1965 2 года назад

    Nicely done.

  • @classicstangbrn8964
    @classicstangbrn8964 2 года назад

    252 subscribers, I'm surprised, thought you would have a lot more.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 года назад

      My RUclips channel is a new thing so I am having to build my following.

  • @garrettduncan3227
    @garrettduncan3227 Месяц назад

    Great video. Any chance you will make one for a Ford 4-speed Toploader to a 5-speed TKX? What do I need to do about the 1965 Mustang crossmember? is it a matter of massaging it with a small sledgehammer or does it need to be cut and modified?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Месяц назад

      I don't currently have a toploader to compare it too. You would need to cut out the rib ad then reinforce that area

  • @kenwilson5438
    @kenwilson5438 Месяц назад

    Hi. Very informative video. Unfortunately, it doesn't help me in my situation. I have a 65 Falcon with a 351 Windsor engine and a 4 speed top loader. Naturally it has the front to rear direction clutch lever action. Do you have anything to help with this setup ? Thanks. Ken

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Месяц назад

      I do not all my kits are designed to work with 5-speeds and their corresponding bellhousings. The only option I know of for a toploader is to use a hydraulic throw out bearing

  • @chriscomer1472
    @chriscomer1472 10 месяцев назад

    So what you are saying is when I get ready to bump up to the TKX have a professional do it for me ... Thanks for the information

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad I could help

  • @StumpyVanLife
    @StumpyVanLife Год назад

    I have heard the slip yoke for a TKX is the same as a C6 slip yoke. Can anyone confirm?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Год назад +3

      TKO and TKX Slip Yoke, also fits T-45, TR-3550, and C6 transmissions

  • @classics289
    @classics289 Год назад +1

    31 spline output shaft I'm guessing? The biggest problem I see with installing one of these is you can't make the parking brake work. Some places are saying that you should drill out the spot welds on that underside support you showed and relocate it back a little and put the cross member on. Well you can't do that and still have a parking brake.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Год назад +2

      I have not installed it yet but I should be able maintain the parking brake. It will require a custom built crosmember.

    • @markr2005
      @markr2005 Год назад

      my 67 parking brake linkage is not connected to the crossmember.

    • @classics289
      @classics289 Год назад

      @@markr2005 true, sorry. I was talking about the 64-66 Mustangs.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 месяца назад

      👍

  • @aroundlinemen
    @aroundlinemen 6 месяцев назад +1

    Would it work on 63 y block f100 ,great video thank you

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes and no. With a stock bellhousing and adapter plate it would bolt up BUT that is a lot of transmission for a Y block. I am not dissing on the y block but there is little to no aftermarket support so they are not a big hp and trq engine. A TKX is designed for high torque and horsepower that a Y block would never make. I would get a T5. It would be less expensive.

    • @tuckersbaby
      @tuckersbaby Месяц назад

      Yes. Easiest would be the way I’m intending to put one behind the 312 in my ‘57 T-Bird: with a Quick Time bell housing. Modern Driveline has what you’d need.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Месяц назад

      quicktime offers excellent parts but their prices are IMHO about double what would be reasonable.

  • @jwtru2life
    @jwtru2life 11 месяцев назад

    What about the transmission cross member mount?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  11 месяцев назад +1

      Very similar. The issue is the TKX is slightly taller than a T5 in front of the shifter so that could effect how the transmission is angled. If you can get it angled the same as a T5 the T5 crossmember should work but if like in the case of a first generation mustang there is a problem with it hitting the floor ribbing the crossmember might need a little modification.

  • @jamesmedina2062
    @jamesmedina2062 9 месяцев назад

    are the lengths of transmission the same T5 v TKX?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  8 месяцев назад +2

      yes they are the same

  • @riomekilo895
    @riomekilo895 2 года назад +1

    What flUID would you recommend for this TKX

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 года назад +1

      Dex III. I prefer synthetic

    • @riomekilo895
      @riomekilo895 2 года назад +1

      @@dazecars like a Mobil 1 synthetic ATF??

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 года назад +3

      @@riomekilo895 The brand of the synthetic really does matter as long as it is dex III

  • @josemelis4153
    @josemelis4153 6 месяцев назад

    Would this automatic transmission fit 305 Ford 1966

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  6 месяцев назад

      This is a manual transmission not an automatic

  • @baldheadjamaican2551
    @baldheadjamaican2551 3 месяца назад

    Will the t5 bellhousing fit a tkx transmission

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 месяца назад +1

      It is the exact same casting but the transmission mounting bolt pattern is different. that is why I show both bellhousings in the video and talk about welding them up and re-drilling the correct pattern but getting the 3550/TKO/TKX type bell is probably a better option

    • @baldheadjamaican2551
      @baldheadjamaican2551 3 месяца назад

      @@dazecars oh ok thanks

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 месяца назад

      👍

  • @j.petisch
    @j.petisch 2 года назад

    Have you installed this yet?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 года назад

      No it is going in my 62 Galaxie behind a 393W BUT the stroker rebuild kit I ordered in November is still on back order SOOO everything is on hold.

  • @valcandestr0yer
    @valcandestr0yer 3 месяца назад

    So your saying this will fit in a 66 mustang coupe?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 месяца назад

      yes and no. The T5 technically doesn't fit "properly" in a first Gen Mustang. It tilts down a couple degrees more than it should but still works. The TKX is the same basic shape as the T5 but due to it being slightly different in front of the shifter the Mustang floor strap will hit or the TKX causing it to be tilted down a couple more degrees than the T5. IMHO the T5 is at the max angle so if you want to run a TKX the floor pan will need to be modified.

    • @valcandestr0yer
      @valcandestr0yer 3 месяца назад

      @@dazecars well I have a 351 that is going in the car so I don’t really have an option do I? 🥲

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 месяца назад

      depends on the build. A stock(ish) 351 in a light car like a Mustang would likely be Okay with a z spec T5 as long as that T5 is built with counter a gear stabilizer AND as long as the rear end is stock(ish) and tire width is stock(ish). In other words the tires would likely spin before the transmission breaks but you are right at the max of a T5 so if the 351 is performance built at all (anything more than a cam) you are rolling the dice.

    • @valcandestr0yer
      @valcandestr0yer 3 месяца назад

      @@dazecars yea it’s a 418 stroker with dome top pistons. Def more than the t5

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 месяца назад

      unless you went with a g-force or Astro Performance T5, a T5 will not be up to the task. At that point a TKX is a much better option and is a far superior transmission to the the T5 even one that has been upgraded.

  • @24theMoney
    @24theMoney 2 месяца назад

    T5 WC can handle alot of torque if granny shifted.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 месяца назад

      Makes sense, I have a friend that rebuilds T5s for a living and in his experience most failures happen on power shifts between 2nd and 3rd. The biggest problem is flex in the case causing the counter gear to move enough that it doesn't mesh properly with the gears on the main shaft and then bad stuff happens. Granny shifting it would likely eliminate that problem.

    • @24theMoney
      @24theMoney 2 месяца назад

      @@dazecars Has anyone seen a T5 ever blow during a Dyno run? There ya go.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 месяца назад

      Good point