Why its Cheaper to Run A Tesla
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2022
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In this episode we explore charging costs. Tesla Supercharger costs have just decreased significantly - but every other charging network hasn't cut their own costs.
"How much range", "how much does it cost", "where do I charge" - these are the questions EVERY driver thinking about an EV wants to know. I discuss why Tesla charging costs are cheaper than every other brand of EV and every petrol or diesel car.
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I collect my Model Y Long Range on Saturday, and I researched a LOT to decide what car to get and the SuperCharger network was a major factor in deciding to go Tesla and not another make of EV.
Way way back in 2014 we bought a Nissan Leaf. Slow charging (7kW) was a new thing installed in clusters by enthusiastic councils. Even where these were fitted they were unreliable back then. And rapids were the old Electric Highway units.
I've had a couple of PHEVs between the Leaf handed back in 2017 and the Tesla in 2022, and the charger network isn't good. Unless you Just Get A Tesla...
You made a good choice ! Don’t forget to download acceleration boost … it’s good value
It must have been very rewarding to discover all of the additional features in the Tesla. Of course you're probably can't compare them feature to feature for all of the cars that you ended up not buying in favor of the Tesla but I have thoroughly enjoyed the over-the-air software updates making the car better over time as well as the very strong regenerative braking, and has autopilot, and about a dozen other features that this car has that are simply not available in any other car for any other price. Some people say Teslas are expensive... I say that they are a smashing bargain for the amount of features they have. Tesla doesn't even advertise the features, or brag about them, or offer them as an upgrade for X of $ extra... They all come standard with every vehicle and they are built in at no "extra" cost. Perhaps that is why they are so "expensive" to begin with. One could think of it as a lifetime subscription to all the over-the-air updates ever as well as all of the other features in the car. As opposed if one thought of it that way the car would be probably $10 or $15K less on the upfront price. I got my 7-seat M Y 23 December 2022 and in the first three weeks I put 3K miles on it, what an absolute blast to drive and own. We now have two BEVs in our family and no ICE, and I am never going back.
I'm om 7.5p kWh on Octopus GO and my model 3 SR+ is working out at ~2.0p/mile! I rarely travel more that 180 miles in a day, and if I do I will use the Tesla Supercharger network but 99% of the time I just charger from home. So in the last year I have travelled 13,610 miles for £ 282.93 (including supercharging) and that's what I call a real bargain.
As you say, Just Get a Tesla!
Those numbers are unbelievable lol. So cheap. GO tarriff has gone now, its the intelligent tarriff now, 10ppKW
You would get that result with any modern EV with a long range, so getting a tesla isn't necessary particularly if you're doing 99% of your journeys after charging at home.
I pickup a MY later this month as a company car - Supercharging on the run was a bit of a worry as I will only claim government advisory fuels rates but the recent price drop has eliminated that worry as the small uplift against home charging is more than covered by the generous company car tax savings. :)
If all you ever did was supercharge then that might be a problem. As you say, you'll charge at home. Also note that the advisory pence per mile "fuel" rate for company EVs increased to 8p on 1st December!
as always ... thank you. very informative. Just got my tesla on wednesday ... so your videos help ! How do you find your Y in the snow and ice ?
Supercharging in my area of travel in the US is $0.41/kWh, for comparison. There is no distinction between on/off peak.
Good video, as usual. Its always important to look at the numbers. I think you might have been referring to my comment on your previous video (unless someone else also said the same thing) when I said that my Enyaq has all those missing features (10 in your title. but there are more) the Telsa doesn't, except for the frunk. Although there are some things the Tesla has that other cars don't. Horses for courses. Skoda has the 'powerpass' which allows you to charge with many different suppliers uning one RFID card. The built-in SatNav shows live availability and the predicted state of arrival charge etc. They have also just introduced 'plug and charge' which doesn't need you to use a card at all (just plug in), although I don't need any of this for my usage. I agree driving EVs is much cheaper after the initial purchase, than an equivalent ICE. We solar charge ours for 75-85% of the time (over a year) and when not, we charge overnight at 13.8p/kwh. So in real terms, it's almost free to use. On rare occasions (2-3 times a year at most) if I need to use a public charger, it doesn't matter if it costs the same as an ICE, but I will always try and use a destination charger when available. The only thing I would say is that most Tesla owners (on RUclips) claim it's the only vehicle to own because of the supercharge network, but for me and most modern EV owners or potential owners, home charging is the only thing you need. Most people can make a return journey within their electric range acquired overnight at a very low cost. Of course, there are thousands of owners who regularly travel 300-plus miles in a day, but I would say they are in a minority from the figures I've looked at. Telsa has, without a doubt, got the market to where it is today like apple did with the iPhone. But like apple, that advantage doesn't last long because there's money to be made. The UK charge network does need to improve, but it will. My friend has 2 x Tesla M3s but he also has to keep his petrol car for trips to Wales 🙂. Keep up the good content, I really enjoy the stuff you make.
You're absolutely right that most charging is done as we sleep - can a petrol or diesel car do that! Glad that Skoda offer one RFID card to run multiple networks - but its still multiple networks. Its like the wild west out there, and if anything its getting worse not better.
I follow a lot of other EV content and the thing that is always talked about is reliability - will the charger actually charge? Even on a new network like Mer I had to call customer service to have them remote release my Type 2 cable as their app was refusing. Not a concern with Tesla. Its not that other brands can't charge - I didn't say that. But they are more complex, more expensive, slower and riskier.
@@justgetatesla I agree, right now, the overall Tesla public charger experience is better, if you have to use it. But I'm confident over the next few years things will get much better for everyone. At the end of the day, if everyone 'just got a Tesla' and used the supercharging network, it would get swamped. There are ques even now at some of the busier Tesla charging stations at rush hour. But I'm positive about the future.
I’m paying 9p a kilowatt hour on cheap rate with Octopus which works out at 2p/mile (Nov 23)
You also need to take into account time of year (temperature) and charging losses, I am amazed at how many figures are based on maximum battery capacity instead of how much electricity it actually takes to charge the battery and how much of that charge you are prepared to sacrifice to control the climate in the car.
So i guess if you rent a property and it is a flat ,Tesla wont be the best option for me :( as it will cost a lot to be charged on public chargers only?
All I can say is that I’ve just bought a Tesla Model Y RWD and switched my energy provider to Octopus from EDF on the IntelligentOctopus Tariff and can charge my Tesla for 6 hours each night at 10p per KWh. It’s a no brainier for me. Just over £5.50 to charge from 0-100% and I get 240 miles on that charge
My Toyota CR-V got 4.1 litres per 100 klicks. @ 1.75 per litre that is $7.18 per 100 klicks. With a range of 525 klicks it costs me $37.70 in fuel. A Tesla gets about 434 Klicks per charge @ 84Kwh. @ $0.32 per Kwh, that is $26.88 per charge or $32.52 for 525 klicks, a saving of $5.18 or .000986 cents per klick. I bought the CR-V for $34,000 and sold it 5 years later for $28,000. Servicing costs, $120 per 10,000 klicks.
BYD Atto 3 cost in China around $20,000 in UK £38,899 government is our main problem
Was going to pull the trigger on a model y that they have going cheap now for work but honestly my little fabia currently does 6pence per mile at todays diesel 1.36 so think ill just run this into the ground.
are you going to get a solor roof so you can charge free
At last a real world comparison with typical car owner experience. Thank you. Spare a thought for us poor souls in South Africa with stage 6 power load shedding (no power for 6 hours every day) on top of extravagant additional taxes on EV's over and above the vehicle import taxes, because apparently it is an electronic device! Remember our currency is R21 to the Pound! Sigh.
Cost for electric at my home is less than $0.08/kWh. That's 330 miles of range for less than $6 USD. Outstanding. Oh, but I have a solar system, so it's $0. The solar system wasn't free, but it wasn't any more per month than my previous average electricity bill.
Solar is a difficult option for me. Our house is listed which means I need approval to do things which alter the appearance...
At least I can charge the car from.my business electric supply which is cheaper than domestic
@@justgetatesla have you applied for permission?
@@justgetatesla that is good. I take advantage of free charging in the community at large whenever possible: All three of the places I work have a charger that is free to the public within 1 mile. One of them is directly across the street, the other one is in the same parking lot, and the third one is 1 mi away. That is a bit of a walk and adds a little bit of time and complexity to my journey to work but for me personally it is worth it.
I dont understand the tech jargon - stuff like 75p per KW hour. What does that mean? I just want to know the price it costs me per mile. At least you stated a cost per mile for the Tesla chargers. Im new to this game, I thought the Tesla chargers were the most expensive so I was going to avoid them. I've been using Instavolt
Apart from a few loss leaders specifically designed to get people in the shop , that's not how pricing works , you can't just say it needs to be cheaper than petrol diesel . The 100 different apps are valid but I suspect without those apps the prices will be even more expensive as they will be selling your data for more revenue .
I don’t think the primary motivator of getting your data in this case is to sell it. That would be like signing up to a coffee shop loyalty scheme and them selling your data to their rivals.
8:00 535 miles 😂 … that’s not a long trip !
I’ve done 30K km in my model Y and it’s been on two separate trips Algarve to Scotland 🏴!
The only way public charging rates will drop is increase in competition and commodity prices fall. A combination of 2 it propping up high costs, its extremely expensive to set up charging stations especially fast charging with so few EVs actually using them. The prices won't fall until there are much more EVs on the road and more public use for it to make sense for businesses to invest in a meaningful way into a charging network. Majority of EV users can charge at home and don't drive enough miles frequently to necessitate public charging. From an investment POV, it's just not worthwhile.
Don’t forget that all your costs per mile are using your own figure for miles per kWh which seem to be about 3.54. You can reduce the cost per mile by better economy. The model 3 RWD will be better due to it’s different aerodynamics and possibly aero wheels and driving style will also contribute if you can resist the appeal of the performance ☺️ If you work out the costs at 4 miles per kWh it becomes cheaper, of course. The 34p per kWh would become 8.5 pence per mile.
Of course! I'm using myself as an example with real world figures. As I do a lot of long trips and it's winter, it's probably a worst case scenario
Understood ☺️ The list of different network prices was most useful, that takes some work to find !
What about home charging costs
What about them? There are such huge differences in home tariffs that it's almost impossible to talk about them in any usable context.
@@justgetateslaI don't agree. I can easily talk about them! I'm with EDF on 'Economy Seven' which currently (!) gives me seven hours overnight at £0.0858 per Kilo watt hour. At say 3.5 miles per kWh thats just under 2.5 pence per mile (or a little over 3 cents US per mile). Here in the England bit of the UK we can shop around for suppliers - I assume that can be done in Scotland. Charging during the day time on Economy Seven would however be a bit more of a no no - its £0.446 per kilo Watt hour - I pay more than the domestic energy cap during the day to have it cheaper at night and all my heavy electrical usage is timed to use the cheap rate. It is still it is cheaper though than most UK roadside chargers. Prices correct as at end August 23, they are reducing by about 10% in October. Motto: Get a home charger on a cheap overnight tariff - as you frequently say!