lol have you even driven one? I got mine last year in April now have 19k miles on it, prior to that I test drove the Colorado and Tacoma and was not at all impressed tbh the engine on the new frontier is plenty power, you’ll be hitting 50 in a jisp, at first yeah the transmission was a bit weird an jumpy but that is now gone and I have not had any issues
@@Adriangee818 The new higher trim ranger and the turbo max Colorado have incredible amounts of torque with engines and transmissions from full size trucks with much higher towing ratings than you will ever use in a midsize truck. They are far more useful if you use them for work, say what you will about Chevy and ford reliability, but they aren’t really even in the same class performance wise. The turbo max puts out 430 pound feet of torque at 3000 rpm and like 390 at 2000 rpm plus it was designed by their diesel team and has forged internals. The ranger will have the option of the 2.7 eco boost v6 which is another powerful and proven engine. The frontier will be great off-roading because you are in 4 low and will already have all that mechanical advantage, but it won’t be close to as good of a work truck for those not interested in spending 70k plus on a truck that will be beaten to death, but still need the power of a full size truck.
The new Tacoma is a gift to Nissan. If you want to buy a brand new Tacoma V6 with a powerful seamless drive train, simple proven mechanicals, a 20 year long great reliability record, all in a well-assembled truck made in the USA, Toyota has the perfect truck for you - The Nissan Frontier. I’d also mention it’s available at a fair price and without insane dealer mark-ups.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 Yes, on automatics only, their vendor Calsonic supplied some weak radiators.in the early years. It was not a "bad transmission " as the haters like to jump all over. If the radiator was recognized as one of the bad ones and replaced, no damage happened. If it was not caught, you might get the strawberry shake. Even in that case , I'd rather replace a transmission than an entire Taco frame. But I personally prefer to avoid any of that slushbox complexity with a stick shift. Just a box of gears filled with oil. No electronics, oil pump, governor, filter, fluid charges, etc.
I just got $5,500 off MSRP for the exact Frontier that I wanted. No add ons, no BS just manufacturer sticker options that I wanted. Yes I did have to contact many dealers but there are a few , very few honest dealers left but the 2024s are going fast.
Are you a mechanic? Well, I was for twenty years. So how do you make a judgement on the Turbo 4 in the Toyota unless you have seen it in the long term? What I have seen is that all the tests have seen, show that the turbo 4 is a stronger motor than the prwvios V6. The 6 cylinder was not a spectacular motor anyway.
I always wanted a Taco because ...well everyone was buying them and I never looked at the Frontier. But with Tacos being built in Mexico at 1/6 the wage of American workers while they jack the price up $10k, new gen problems, and that turbo, I looked at and bought a Frontier Pro X at $5,500 under MSRP with no BS add ons and love it. It is old school good. No e-brakes to fail or require special procedure to change pads. Just a manual foot e-brake . The V6 is powerful and the 9 speed silky smooth and I get better fuel economy that the EPA numbers.
Three days ago I bought a Frontier SV extended cab with 6ft bed $2000 below MSRP. Extended cabs don't sell as well as club cabs but I don't need the passenger space so it works for me. I wanted to buy a new GMC Canyon but not interested in a short bed, club cab, 4 cyl turbo anything. I agree that the deals that were starting to be common will disappear soon.
the Turbo is probably ok... maybe, if they did it right.... but I don't trust them right now with all the Tundra and Prius problems and everything else. The Frontier will last.
The new turbo engines are fine aside from the tundra engine issue but that isn't related to it being turbo. I've owned multiple ecoboost vehicles. All of them were reliable and performed well. Back in the 90s and earlier, yes turbo engines were not reliable..
Have you driven it with this engine? If not why does it suck? You guys who know nothing about engines and drivetrains crack me up. If you pay attention to the tests on the Turbo 4, it outperforms the old 6 cylinder engine. Don't place judgement on pre conceived ideas. The motor just came out.
@briansalisbury4764 you're basically trying to make a small engine perform like big one. By analogy, It's like human on steroids. Sooner than later steroids will kill you. Same with that engine, the turbos will make more zippier and stronger, but it won't last. That's why for me it sucks. I like engines/trucks that will last a long time. Anyway to each his own. Enjoy your Turbo charged Tacoma. And I will continue to enjoy my old 2008 one.
This is funny, after all the Toy Boys saying Frontier has bad resale value. Its bad for me if I want a used one, but Nissan has earned its overdue recognition. They were once king of the hill with the Datsun trucks, and have ALWAYS made a very durable rig. Then somehow Toyota became the supposed premium brand, even as Tacoma frames rotted away while Nissans kept on trucking. Having a Nissan of some kind in my hands since 1980, and driving the same HARDBODY for almost 30 years, I salute Nissan for their intelligence in choosing specs on the new best compact truck. Except for one thing: I want my MTV (manual transmission vehicle)!
Toyota is living on its past legacy that is now gone as the new Tacoma and tundra are absolute crap recall after recall almost 250k Toyotas just recalled
I don’t know, but my dad owned a 1981 Toyota SR5, 4 x 4, pick up and that thing was virtually indestructible. I don’t think Datsun ever built anything quite like that. he built sideboards for it and would haul a cord of wood with that thing regularly and did it for about 10 or 12 years then he handed it off to me when I turned 16 and I could not break that thing. Absolutely wheeled the shit out of it.
@@Adriangee818 I mean what brand is better is up for debate but I have a brand new 2023 Trd off-road and a coworker of mine has the new frontier and his is already been in the shop three times. He didn’t tell me what for probably small stuff but still. I did have the recall for the welding debris on the rear axle, but the service advisor told me that it’s only one out of every 25 trucks is actually even affected Toyota just being overcautious but time will tell I’m not a big fan of turbo motors on pick up trucks unless it’s a diesel
You are one of the first to call this out on Nissan. Toyota assumed they would remain unchallenged regardless of the unwanted engine changes to satisfy the EPA and other NGO's.
I keep asking that too. Seems to be a hard answer to get. I wish they could go one step more and bring back the manual transmission too. I've never broken a Nisaan manual in over 40 years .
They're not being forced, they're choosing to do it for the government carb credits. They figured people are too loyal to them that they'll pay anything for mediocre trucks with less than ideal power trains. Unfortunately some people are, and some youtubers are shilling for Toyota and misguiding people. Don't buy these new junk Toyotas, I would go as far as telling people to not buy ANY 4 cyl forced induction truck. Trucks are meant to have robust engines that can handle doing truck things.
I believe it is not mandatory yet. I think it might be in 2026 or something. Right now Nissan may be giving up government kickbacks that others could be getting. I have heard this as rumors only so take it for that.
@@Avaler I'm surprised Nissan does not play this up more in their advertising. They have the only truck of its kind right now. They might as well take full advantage of it.They could even present statistics on how long a standard VQ engine would last vs projected life of a turbo 4 and the extra things that can go wrong.
It has to do with overall fleet average mpgs. If you start selling more trucks with lower mpgs you need to start chasing better fuel economy. Toyota was the only company to drop overall mpgs in the past 5 years hence the switch to v6 turbo. Nissan still sells a lot of cars so their average doesn't suffer. They will switch once they sell enough trucks to a turbo 4.
I knew this was going to happen. Dealers getting greedy. Will have to shop around, don't pay the mark ups or junk stuff like nitrogen. Stand firm in negotiating. You have to be willing to walk away, literally. Good video, thanks for bringing this out.
Yes it is crappy of them to do this nonsense but it’ll now happen all over. Dealers have been given free rein to behave without consequence. This never results in anything good. I’ll keep calling their scummy BS out even if I have to do it one by one.
My dad had a black 2003 Frontier XE crew cab long bed 4x4 with a 5-speed and a manual transfer case. Bought it when I was 10 years old and drove it for over 270k miles before trading it on a new Tacoma in 2019. I had a new Tacoma and came to visit him and he decided it was time for a new truck. That Frontier only went through two batteries, 2 sets of front brake pads, valve cover gaskets and spark plugs at 220k, that's it. The clutch was still tight and felt new at almost 300k. I'm still pissed he traded it in at some Toyota dealership that only gave him $1500, I offered $3000 for it a few months before and he laughed.
I said a few months ago. They can take as long as they want to in releasing it doing press events after events. But we still won’t buy it. You can just give us a truck made in Mexico that we know cost you less to make, put a smaller engine in it, and up the price by so much and still expect people to buy. The ones that have to extra cash buy first and test it out for the rest of the market. Then they regret and sell then move on to the next truck. Tundra is a prime example
Northern Virginia and Pennsylvania prices are pretty close to MSRP, whereas other locations are still discounting. I drove up and hour to Maryland today to test drive a fully loaded Pro-4x for ~$43,800
@@revnation_auto A lot of the types of people in Florida who would buy these overpaid for their homes plus their home insurance is eating into income, so me thinks discounts will stick around a bit.
Just bought a new under appreciated and underrated Nissan Titan in the pro-4x trim and Baja storm. 10k under msrp at 0% for 60mo. Edit: I was a Tundra guy but I rather have a naturally aspirated v8 over a turbo charged v6.
@@brandon_buildsDIY I mean depreciation on the titan is brutal but I plan on driving it until it or I die and I’m hoping that will change when people hopefully start recognizing what they’ve been overlooking between Toyota and the big 3.
My '24 Pro-4X is 3 wks old today and was $3K under the MSRP. Regrets? Mine did not come with the $2100 performance package that gives you bed rail tracks, bed lighting, bed power outlets. I figured I could add those later. Nope. They do not sell the rails. Even Z1 aftermarket supplier states that their rails are replacement ONLY..., not add-ons. So ..... Buy your truck fully configured from the dealer. BTW ... Mine is a Baja Storm color.... That was a priority for me. Tactile Green was my back-up color.
@@ebinuyasha1 I like the looks better, easier for my wife to get in it, it's more fun to drive, cheaper to operate, a life time power train warranty and I never pulled a trailer or needed the capability it offered. Full size trucks are great but I am retired and the prices are high. I always wanted a Titan PRO4X but again, expensive. The Titan is a great truck. I do like this Frontier Pro4X better than the Titan. This is the fifth Nissan truck I have owned and I have loved them all.
Last week I got the SV 4x4 crew cab with longer bed + the “convenience package.” It came with just regular cruise control. I said no to the nitro in the tires and paint protection crap. Every day I see vids like yours and I am just more and more happy with my choice.
vehicles costing too much and not made that well? Blame 1) the C.A.F.E. standards that prevent buyers from getting what we want and can afford 2) manufacturers that instead of telling the government to ‘shove it’bow down to them 3) dealers with unnesessary mark ups 4) banks with higher intersest rates 5) buyers that spend the money for inferior vehicles 6) The UAW union that went on strike demanding a 4 day work week with 5 day pay. 7) the government that ‘in order to make things better and safer’ actually don’t make things better and safer 8) Covid shut downs where most people were forced to stay home and the government paid you money they didn’t have to do nothing breaking the supply chain. 9) an artificial EV mandate forcing everyone to buy something they don’t want and isn’t ready and the electrical needed to power them is not ready. If vehicles can’t be sold for 2 years, the economy will collapse … oh wait, it is callapsing because no one can afford $1000/mo car payments
Bought my 2023 frontier SV mid April, 2024 32,940 otd, base price 29,440, i shopped for a month before found the right deal, haven't seen under 30k base price since still look at the pricing at different dealers just to see if i got a good deal. Glad i pulled the trigger, got the tactical green, (convenience pkg) very happy!
Bought a used 2017 Pro-4x in 2018 with 17k miles and have had almost 6 years of trouble free use and enjoyment. Looked at TRD-Pro Tacos then and couldn't justify the price differential. Best decision I ever made.
I've sat in them all except the new Toyota. The last gen felt like I was sitting on the floor and had to lean forward if you wanted to see traffic lights. The Ranger surprised me on room, I think mostly due to the low center console. Felt roomier. I just don't like the look of them. The Frontier's rear seats sit too straight up, but I wouldn't be back there and don't haul anyone anyways. But you could. At thus point, the Frontier is my choice. I'm just waiting for some reasonable deals and for the interest rates to come back to reality. The biggest issue I have is the dealer gouging with silly crap like you showed, and the fact that the buying experience gets my blood pressure so high I black out! I CAN'T STAND THE GAMES! I find it insulting and frankly it disgusts me. I wish I could just get a good deal and get one online somehow.
Not my favorite mid size truck but a defiantly nice & solid truck! If Nissan was smart, they will refresh the infotainment system & make the camera resolution better
The Frontier popularity will explode within the next year. It's an old school drivetrain with that 3.8L V6 from the acclaimed VQ engine family. No turbo, no hybrid. Just good old realiable ICE.
In El Paso , Texas Casa as of today are offering dealer discount between 3500-4000 off. For the Nissan Fontier, a 2024 PRO is currently being offered for 37,810. Maroon color
I picked up a certified 22 King Cab 4x4 with the Technology package with 8k miles. It was dealership loaner for mid 20’s out the door about 6 months ago. Not widely known fact is all Frontiers start off on the assembly line as a “S” trim. So making it upgraded to your personal preference is far cheaper than spending 25k more for a Pro4x and it will be way better in the end.
Not paying nitrogen scam is pretty easy. Tell the sales guy you will only pay for the air that was put in the tires at the factory. The air that was already present when it rolled off the truck. That air is already included in the base price of the vehicle.
The Frontier SV version with 4X4 looks pretty darn good as well, if you're OK with not having the Pro 4X stuff. Perhaps a good option as well, same engine.
My 2009 *SE Trim* Frontier (4.0L NA, MT, 4WD) came stock with Bilsteins from the factory. I believe the "SE" trim level was 2nd from the base model. Great trucks.
I just picked up a Pro 4X fully loaded for $3,500 below MSRP, and opted out of the $3,000 dealer extras which is mostly made up of a security antitheft package. Had to pay for the nitrogen, but that was cheap.
My 2012 Gen 2 Frontier SL was bulletproof for 11 years and a 160K miles. Traded that in for a 2024 SV Crew Cab long bed with all the available bells and whistles. No one mentions it, but Nissan adding an extra inch to the bed, making it 6ft 1inch long, was genius. That extra inch can make a big difference sometimes. It's such a nice truck with its silky smooth 3.8 310hp V6. I would have got the Pro-4X if it was offered with a long bed, but for reasons unknown to me, Nissan doesn't offer that configuration. I see a lot more Frontiers these days, and I attribute that to the V6 compared to the Tacoma 4-banger. Folks don't want a 4-banger in a truck. Then, the Frontier is made in America versus the Mexican Tacoma.
Great truck! I'm switching from my Taco( 2011 ) to the Pro series. That nitrogen pkg is complete BS and you can get that removed. Especially if you start talking complaining to the FTC or other regulatory body. The air we breath contains I believe 70% Nitrogen... That dealer is smoking crack and I'd let them know. A dealer tried that shit here in Vegas. The customer went to the local media. Needless to say that crap stopped.
The chickens came home to roost for Toyota. The fan boys are running around like chickens with their heads cut off and saying they will only buy 2nd gens. The tacomas are entering the malaise era with little improvements and high prices. Just like the big 3 did during the 70s and 80s. Nissan makes a good truck and we don't have to constantly hear the resale/reliability rhetoric all the time from the owners.
Bought a new 2024 sv model for $36700 out the door bout a month ago, it listed for $38250 before taxes, I'd love to think I got in and out right before they started jacking up the prices 😅
Normal air is 78 percent nitrogen already....sheesh. I have a 2023 Frontier Pro 4x and love it! Also had a 2018 Frontier Pro 4x and loved it as well. Good reliable, and does everything well.
I just bought a 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X fully loaded with every option in early August for $45k out the door. Same spec'd Tacoma TRD Pro I couldn't touch for under $60k. The Frontier is by far a more comfortable, smoother and quieter ride and I am very happy with my decision .
I just got $5,500 off MSRP for the exact Frontier that I wanted. No add ons, no BS just manufacturer sticker options that I wanted. Yes I did have to contact many dealers but there are a few , very few honest dealers left but the 2024s are going fast.
I understand about not wanting the short bed but you can get a 4x4 in the SV that has the long bed. The Pro4X is designed for more extreme off-roading enthusiasts and the shorter wheel base has a better break over angle for crawling and other similar situations.
I went to look at the Pro4X last week. The sales staff were too busy watching the Olympics to assist me, even though I walked into the showroom. The seats felt overly curved and uncomfortable. I've decided to go Ridgeline since I have no ambition to off-road.
Nissan Frontier Pro-4X Pros Nissan Frontier Pro-4X 1) Dana/spicer rear end 2) Dana/spicer transfer case 3) Dana/spicer one peice aluminum drive shaft 4) ZF 9G-Tronic buttery smooth transmission, the trucks ZF 9 speed transmission is made by JATCO using a Mercedes-Benz 9G-Tronic as the design basis. What the internet doesn't clearly tell us is how much JATCO modified the 9G-Tronic design 5) big naturally aspirated V6 6) 60:1 crawl ratio to Tacoma’s 33:1 crawl ratio 7) hydraulic power steering 8) zero gravity seats 9) MADE IN AMERICA 10) last but not least PRICE Cons Per Consumer Reports: We expect the 2024 Frontier will be less reliable than the average new car. This prediction is based on data from 2022 and 2023 models, plus the Nissan brand scores. The Nissan Frontier suffers from a few common problems, which include engine issues, transmission issues, defective airbags and paint chipping. Heavy Hydraulic power steering not electronic power steering Poor turning radious No telescoping steering wheel No rear air vents Small back seat No long bed on the Pro-4X Issues with the cruise control No lane keep assist because it has hydraulic power steering Transmissions issues with the parking paul pin The rear differential leaks and service intervals every 20,000 miles The noise inside the cabin is loud compared to the Ridgeline Smaller cramped interior compared to the Ridgeline The interior seems outdated and old There is a class action suit over the paint, the class action alleges 2017-present Nissan vehicles have been coated with defective paint primer that is not durable enough to withstand the rigors of daily driving and causing paint peeling. The 23-page suit claims that the primer, a preparatory coating that allows paint to better adhere to a surface and increases durability, has caused affected vehicles to become substantially devalued. The case alleges the automaker has known for several years that the primer it uses is defective yet has not disclosed the problem to consumers and has outright refused to repair the issue free of charge.
Its frustrating that the same thing isn't happening with the Titan. The Titan is the closest thing you can get to the previous generation Tundra and the new Tundras are expensive and full of Gremlins. Like the Frontier, Titans should be selling much better by stealing market share from Toyota, but its too late now. Also, you can get a new Titan today for only a few thousand more than a new Frontier, so I would have expected a lot of buyers to step up and opt for the Titan.
I ended up buying an F-150 coyote V8 last month, but I was looking hard at Titans. You can get a fully loaded Titan Pro 4X for $12K under MSRP and 0%. Check Newton Nissan of Gallatin, TN (outside Nashville). I was super close to flying there from Delaware, but just couldn't pass on the Coyote. Sounds so freaking good with Borla S exhaust, and you just don't see the aftermarket support for the Titan that you do for the F-150.
I've owned every kind of truck from a 91 Chevy S-10 Reg Cab 4 Cylinder, to a 2005 F-250 Ex. Cab 4x4. I haven't owned a truck in a while now, but if I were to buy a truck it would either be the F-150 with the Coyote V8, or the Frontier. I was always kind of iffy on turbo motors, but now seeing all the problems with these overly engineered and stressed motors I won't touch them at all.
Honda is the only one I would trust with turbocharged motors. They been doing it for a while now, but they only use turbochargers in their cars and I believe a van that isn't sold in North America.
I love Toyotas - With that said, here is my question- How can anyone look at the letters TRD without "turd" coming to mind? Full disclosure, while I own 2 Toyota vehicles, I did purchase the Frontier for all of the reasons you stated 0 regrets.
About TRD - depends on the person’s perversion level. Same as many abbreviations that insult people, nations, or for example I can invent or distort your name, last name bullying you to a sh*tty name or similar. Do you I have to keep in mind all this sh*t every day?
I have a second d gen sequoia and I love it. But if I was in the market for a truck I would definitely que the frontier!! Simple engines and reliable. That’s what I like about my v8. No turbo or fancy tech that causes issues!
destination charges are built into the MSRP. don't pay for it separately. negotiate it off. only pay dest fee if the dealer has to locate a specific vehicle you want and brings it to their lot.
I really really hope Nissan Dealerships dont get greedy and try to raise prices. They have a gold mine long term if they manage to knock the Tacoma to #2.
I don't know what all the fuss is about, aren't most manufactures coming out with small, plain $25,000 pickups. They really don't want to make them and the price will be more like $35,000 plus if they do come about.
Oh yeah, I tried to buy a '24 base model 2 days ago. The truck went from advertised at 32k, right to to 44k in 5 minutes. I was stunned by their straight faces.
This is why I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma 4x4. It's the last real truck that Toyota made. If I had waited, I would've definitely bought a Frontier Pro 4x. But honestly, I'm glad that I got a 3rd Gen Tacoma. My truck has gone up in value.
Take the engine out of the equation and you still have a price and value proposition that is hard to beat with the Frontier. Too bad the killed the Titan. It too would be skyrocketing in sales.
They've sold over 18k in quarter one currently second in midsized trucks behind the Tacoma but its close with Tacoma dropping to around 20k sales from 40k+ last year same quarter. Many of those Tacoma sales were likely remaining 23 models too. It will be interesting how the numbers fall by the end of the year but currently the frontier is doing great sales wise. A little too great, my local dealership is out of them and I'd like to try one out.
People have to always find something to cry about. The only thing that upsets me about the new Tacoma is the pricing. They should've included a little more creature comforts for the price. Other that its a nice truck. Everyone cries about turbos just like they did when Ford went Ecoboost in the F150 almost 15 years ago. Guess what? There's tons of Ecobooost engines with over 200k miles on the road with the original turbos. The 2.7 in the Colorado has been solid. Im personally leaning towards a Frontier Pro4x but thats only because its like 5 grand under MSRP. Its $38k brand new and its a nice truck
I was stuck between this and the Maverick. I ended up getting a Maverick Hybrid because of the better gas mileage and I never off road. I live in North Carolina so winters aren’t extreme.
I'm in the market for one, but somewhat hard to do since I want the extended cab w/the Convenience package. Slim pick'ns. Gave up waiting for the the others to offer an extended cab.
I know when I need a new truck I'm gonna pick up a 3rd gen Nissan frontier pro 4x I have a 2012 sv with a pro4x rear axle so it does have a locker and a bit longer bed because it's a king cab. But it's been a great truck especially for the price and it only had 29k miles on it when I got it I just love it being so old school and simple not a bunch of useless electronics and overpriced stuff I don't need.
Son wanted new Tacoma just a week ago we went to dealer it had 17 Tacoma on lot and wouldn’t deal 54,000 for untested new vehicle told the guy we are not paying 6000 for dealer add ons guy said you have to FTC said we don’t so we got Nissan sv 2 days later with long bed and just about everything Toyota had for 36,000 out the door
These trucks have a strong and reliable drivetrain. No turbo. No cylinder deactivation. Good power and reliability that people can afford.
They have horrible power lol what are you talking about, 281 pound feet at an incredibly useless 4400 rpm.
@@michaelstrang2563 have you driven one bud? It’s basically a q50 truck
lol have you even driven one? I got mine last year in April now have 19k miles on it, prior to that I test drove the Colorado and Tacoma and was not at all impressed tbh the engine on the new frontier is plenty power, you’ll be hitting 50 in a jisp, at first yeah the transmission was a bit weird an jumpy but that is now gone and I have not had any issues
@@Adriangee818 The new higher trim ranger and the turbo max Colorado have incredible amounts of torque with engines and transmissions from full size trucks with much higher towing ratings than you will ever use in a midsize truck. They are far more useful if you use them for work, say what you will about Chevy and ford reliability, but they aren’t really even in the same class performance wise. The turbo max puts out 430 pound feet of torque at 3000 rpm and like 390 at 2000 rpm plus it was designed by their diesel team and has forged internals. The ranger will have the option of the 2.7 eco boost v6 which is another powerful and proven engine. The frontier will be great off-roading because you are in 4 low and will already have all that mechanical advantage, but it won’t be close to as good of a work truck for those not interested in spending 70k plus on a truck that will be beaten to death, but still need the power of a full size truck.
The problem is this engine is direct injection only. It won’t be reliable.
The new Tacoma is a gift to Nissan. If you want to buy a brand new Tacoma V6 with a powerful seamless drive train, simple proven mechanicals, a 20 year long great reliability record, all in a well-assembled truck made in the USA, Toyota has the perfect truck for you - The Nissan Frontier. I’d also mention it’s available at a fair price and without insane dealer mark-ups.
Love this! Don't forget also it has a more comfortable seating position, and never had a recall for frames rotting in half. It's the same platform.
@@jeanclaude7018 Except when they had issues with coolant mixing with transmission fluid.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 Yes, on automatics only, their vendor Calsonic supplied some weak radiators.in the early years. It was not a "bad transmission " as the haters like to jump all over. If the radiator was recognized as one of the bad ones and replaced, no damage happened. If it was not caught, you might get the strawberry shake.
Even in that case , I'd rather replace a transmission than an entire Taco frame. But I personally prefer to avoid any of that slushbox complexity with a stick shift. Just a box of gears filled with oil. No electronics, oil pump, governor, filter, fluid charges, etc.
@@jeanclaude7018 Meh, well that's the main reason I went with Toyota and 300k miles later, it's still running.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 Dare you to try that now!
3k for bs nitrogen? That dealer is scum
The addendum sticker is what you get at a scummy dealership.
I just got $5,500 off MSRP for the exact Frontier that I wanted. No add ons, no BS just manufacturer sticker options that I wanted. Yes I did have to contact many dealers but there are a few , very few honest dealers left but the 2024s are going fast.
Amazing truck. Nissan is not promoting it aggressively.
Rest of the industry is producing garbage Turbo and Hybrids.
Are you a mechanic? Well, I was for twenty years. So how do you make a judgement on the Turbo 4 in the Toyota unless you have seen it in the long term? What I have seen is that all the tests have seen, show that the turbo 4 is a stronger motor than the prwvios V6. The 6 cylinder was not a spectacular motor anyway.
Do see advertisements for Maserati or Or porsche?
No, they sell themselves
My mechanic told me to stay away from turbos and CVT’s. This meets the bill but not much else does.
I got my base model 2024 frontier with the utility package and technology package for 38k OTD at 2.9% APR
How you get that low of an apr? I got great credit wth
@NBRPWeazelNews. Pre approved, never finance directly with nissan or dealer finance, they will bone you and rupture your colon
I'm picking up my new pro x in the morning. It's easy to see why they are leading. Simple and on the cheaper end of smaller trucks.
Good choice!
You end up still getting it?
@@Myusernameweakyes, 2024 Boulder Gray Pearl pro x
I always wanted a Taco because ...well everyone was buying them and I never looked at the Frontier. But with Tacos being built in Mexico at 1/6 the wage of American workers while they jack the price up $10k, new gen problems, and that turbo, I looked at and bought a Frontier Pro X at $5,500 under MSRP with no BS add ons and love it. It is old school good. No e-brakes to fail or require special procedure to change pads. Just a manual foot e-brake . The V6 is powerful and the 9 speed silky smooth and I get better fuel economy that the EPA numbers.
Three days ago I bought a Frontier SV extended cab with 6ft bed $2000 below MSRP. Extended cabs don't sell as well as club cabs but I don't need the passenger space so it works for me. I wanted to buy a new GMC Canyon but not interested in a short bed, club cab, 4 cyl turbo anything. I agree that the deals that were starting to be common will disappear soon.
Extended bed Frontiers are awesome. Glad you got the pickup you wanted!
I bought a Pro-4x today for $5000 below msrp and no add ons. Cardinal red.
I never thought I would consider a Frontier over a Tacoma. But now I do. The Tacoma's turbo charged engine sucks.
the Turbo is probably ok... maybe, if they did it right.... but I don't trust them right now with all the Tundra and Prius problems and everything else. The Frontier will last.
Sucks how? I've not heard a single issue with it so far. Or are you just not liking it because it has a turbo?
The new turbo engines are fine aside from the tundra engine issue but that isn't related to it being turbo. I've owned multiple ecoboost vehicles. All of them were reliable and performed well. Back in the 90s and earlier, yes turbo engines were not reliable..
Have you driven it with this engine? If not why does it suck? You guys who know nothing about engines and drivetrains crack me up. If you pay attention to the tests on the Turbo 4, it outperforms the old 6 cylinder engine. Don't place judgement on pre conceived ideas. The motor just came out.
@briansalisbury4764 you're basically trying to make a small engine perform like big one. By analogy, It's like human on steroids. Sooner than later steroids will kill you. Same with that engine, the turbos will make more zippier and stronger, but it won't last. That's why for me it sucks. I like engines/trucks that will last a long time. Anyway to each his own. Enjoy your Turbo charged Tacoma. And I will continue to enjoy my old 2008 one.
This is funny, after all the Toy Boys saying Frontier has bad resale value. Its bad for me if I want a used one, but Nissan has earned its overdue recognition. They were once king of the hill with the Datsun trucks, and have ALWAYS made a very durable rig. Then somehow Toyota became the supposed premium brand, even as Tacoma frames rotted away while Nissans kept on trucking. Having a Nissan of some kind in my hands since 1980, and driving the same HARDBODY for almost 30 years, I salute Nissan for their intelligence in choosing specs on the new best compact truck.
Except for one thing: I want my MTV (manual transmission vehicle)!
Toyota is living on its past legacy that is now gone as the new Tacoma and tundra are absolute crap recall after recall almost 250k Toyotas just recalled
I don’t know, but my dad owned a 1981 Toyota SR5, 4 x 4, pick up and that thing was virtually indestructible. I don’t think Datsun ever built anything quite like that. he built sideboards for it and would haul a cord of wood with that thing regularly and did it for about 10 or 12 years then he handed it off to me when I turned 16 and I could not break that thing. Absolutely wheeled the shit out of it.
@@Adriangee818 I mean what brand is better is up for debate but I have a brand new 2023 Trd off-road and a coworker of mine has the new frontier and his is already been in the shop three times. He didn’t tell me what for probably small stuff but still. I did have the recall for the welding debris on the rear axle, but the service advisor told me that it’s only one out of every 25 trucks is actually even affected Toyota just being overcautious but time will tell I’m not a big fan of turbo motors on pick up trucks unless it’s a diesel
@@reggie2334able frontier has some bugs but nothing major like snapping of major parts
@@Adriangee818 what major parts snapping are you talking about?
2 years in with my 2022 Frontier! Not a single problem or issue, just normal maintenance like oil changes and stuff
Bought my 23 last year and it’s been wonderful. My local dealer gets them in by the truckload and they’re gone within a couple of weeks to a month.
You are one of the first to call this out on Nissan. Toyota assumed they would remain unchallenged regardless of the unwanted engine changes to satisfy the EPA and other NGO's.
The Frontier will be my next truck.
It's the last mid size truck with a V6 that's priced accourdingly.
If Toyota and company claim to be forced into regulatory compliance, how does Nissan get away with ignoring the same fed "mandates"?
I keep asking that too. Seems to be a hard answer to get. I wish they could go one step more and bring back the manual transmission too. I've never broken a Nisaan manual in over 40 years .
They're not being forced, they're choosing to do it for the government carb credits. They figured people are too loyal to them that they'll pay anything for mediocre trucks with less than ideal power trains. Unfortunately some people are, and some youtubers are shilling for Toyota and misguiding people. Don't buy these new junk Toyotas, I would go as far as telling people to not buy ANY 4 cyl forced induction truck. Trucks are meant to have robust engines that can handle doing truck things.
I believe it is not mandatory yet. I think it might be in 2026 or something. Right now Nissan may be giving up government kickbacks that others could be getting. I have heard this as rumors only so take it for that.
@@Avaler I'm surprised Nissan does not play this up more in their advertising. They have the only truck of its kind right now. They might as well take full advantage of it.They could even present statistics on how long a standard VQ engine would last vs projected life of a turbo 4 and the extra things that can go wrong.
It has to do with overall fleet average mpgs. If you start selling more trucks with lower mpgs you need to start chasing better fuel economy. Toyota was the only company to drop overall mpgs in the past 5 years hence the switch to v6 turbo. Nissan still sells a lot of cars so their average doesn't suffer. They will switch once they sell enough trucks to a turbo 4.
I knew this was going to happen. Dealers getting greedy. Will have to shop around, don't pay the mark ups or junk stuff like nitrogen. Stand firm in negotiating. You have to be willing to walk away, literally. Good video, thanks for bringing this out.
Yes it is crappy of them to do this nonsense but it’ll now happen all over. Dealers have been given free rein to behave without consequence. This never results in anything good. I’ll keep calling their scummy BS out even if I have to do it one by one.
I got the king cab SV 4x4 because I don’t need a backseat, but I needed the 6’ bed for my tools. 😊
That's the best one! 👍
That would be my truck also. Need the long bed more than a back seat
My dad had a black 2003 Frontier XE crew cab long bed 4x4 with a 5-speed and a manual transfer case. Bought it when I was 10 years old and drove it for over 270k miles before trading it on a new Tacoma in 2019. I had a new Tacoma and came to visit him and he decided it was time for a new truck. That Frontier only went through two batteries, 2 sets of front brake pads, valve cover gaskets and spark plugs at 220k, that's it. The clutch was still tight and felt new at almost 300k. I'm still pissed he traded it in at some Toyota dealership that only gave him $1500, I offered $3000 for it a few months before and he laughed.
I said a few months ago. They can take as long as they want to in releasing it doing press events after events. But we still won’t buy it. You can just give us a truck made in Mexico that we know cost you less to make, put a smaller engine in it, and up the price by so much and still expect people to buy. The ones that have to extra cash buy first and test it out for the rest of the market. Then they regret and sell then move on to the next truck. Tundra is a prime example
Northern Virginia and Pennsylvania prices are pretty close to MSRP, whereas other locations are still discounting. I drove up and hour to Maryland today to test drive a fully loaded Pro-4x for ~$43,800
In Florida where I live they are still giving very good discounts.
Probably not for long. Greed always wins with anything in demand.
@@revnation_auto A lot of the types of people in Florida who would buy these overpaid for their homes plus their home insurance is eating into income, so me thinks discounts will stick around a bit.
Just bought a new under appreciated and underrated Nissan Titan in the pro-4x trim and Baja storm. 10k under msrp at 0% for 60mo. Edit: I was a Tundra guy but I rather have a naturally aspirated v8 over a turbo charged v6.
Great truck!! I want one but don’t need. Watch my review on one I did a few months ago.
Smart man!
@@revnation_auto I believe I watched it before making my decision. Thanks!
@@brandon_buildsDIY I mean depreciation on the titan is brutal but I plan on driving it until it or I die and I’m hoping that will change when people hopefully start recognizing what they’ve been overlooking between Toyota and the big 3.
Its sad they have discontinued those now... 2024 is the last year.
My '24 Pro-4X is 3 wks old today and was $3K under the MSRP. Regrets? Mine did not come with the $2100 performance package that gives you bed rail tracks, bed lighting, bed power outlets. I figured I could add those later. Nope. They do not sell the rails. Even Z1 aftermarket supplier states that their rails are replacement ONLY..., not add-ons. So ..... Buy your truck fully configured from the dealer. BTW ... Mine is a Baja Storm color.... That was a priority for me. Tactile Green was my back-up color.
That’s crappy about rails. They are really good to have
Yeah but you can add them. It's basically just electrical strut, get creative
I just traded my 21 Titan in for a 24 Frontier Pro4X. I love it.
What did you like about downsizing from Titan to frontier?
@@ebinuyasha1 I like the looks better, easier for my wife to get in it, it's more fun to drive, cheaper to operate, a life time power train warranty and I never pulled a trailer or needed the capability it offered. Full size trucks are great but I am retired and the prices are high. I always wanted a Titan PRO4X but again, expensive. The Titan is a great truck. I do like this Frontier Pro4X better than the Titan. This is the fifth Nissan truck I have owned and I have loved them all.
Last week I got the SV 4x4 crew cab with longer bed + the “convenience package.” It came with just regular cruise control. I said no to the nitro in the tires and paint protection crap. Every day I see vids like yours and I am just more and more happy with my choice.
vehicles costing too much and not made that well? Blame 1) the C.A.F.E. standards that prevent buyers from getting what we want and can afford 2) manufacturers that instead of telling the government to ‘shove it’bow down to them 3) dealers with unnesessary mark ups 4) banks with higher intersest rates 5) buyers that spend the money for inferior vehicles 6) The UAW union that went on strike demanding a 4 day work week with 5 day pay. 7) the government that ‘in order to make things better and safer’ actually don’t make things better and safer 8) Covid shut downs where most people were forced to stay home and the government paid you money they didn’t have to do nothing breaking the supply chain. 9) an artificial EV mandate forcing everyone to buy something they don’t want and isn’t ready and the electrical needed to power them is not ready. If vehicles can’t be sold for 2 years, the economy will collapse … oh wait, it is callapsing because no one can afford $1000/mo car payments
Bought my 2023 frontier SV mid April, 2024 32,940 otd, base price 29,440, i shopped for a month before found the right deal, haven't seen under 30k base price since still look at the pricing at different dealers just to see if i got a good deal. Glad i pulled the trigger, got the tactical green, (convenience pkg) very happy!
Tacoma with improved transmission and V6 would be perfect.
But they're not going back to V6, so either get with the times or get over Toyota.
Bought a used 2017 Pro-4x in 2018 with 17k miles and have had almost 6 years of trouble free use and enjoyment. Looked at TRD-Pro Tacos then and couldn't justify the price differential. Best decision I ever made.
Love the older pro-4x
Well done! I very happy I got a 22 Certified Frontier about ten months ago. It’s been great!
I've sat in them all except the new Toyota. The last gen felt like I was sitting on the floor and had to lean forward if you wanted to see traffic lights. The Ranger surprised me on room, I think mostly due to the low center console. Felt roomier. I just don't like the look of them. The Frontier's rear seats sit too straight up, but I wouldn't be back there and don't haul anyone anyways. But you could. At thus point, the Frontier is my choice. I'm just waiting for some reasonable deals and for the interest rates to come back to reality. The biggest issue I have is the dealer gouging with silly crap like you showed, and the fact that the buying experience gets my blood pressure so high I black out! I CAN'T STAND THE GAMES! I find it insulting and frankly it disgusts me. I wish I could just get a good deal and get one online somehow.
Just now traded my 2019 cavalry blue sr5 v6 Tacoma for the nissan 2024 Boulder Gray Pro X frontier
Upgrade for sure
Not my favorite mid size truck but a defiantly nice & solid truck! If Nissan was smart, they will refresh the infotainment system & make the camera resolution better
The Frontier popularity will explode within the next year. It's an old school drivetrain with that 3.8L V6 from the acclaimed VQ engine family. No turbo, no hybrid. Just good old realiable ICE.
In El Paso , Texas Casa as of today are offering dealer discount between 3500-4000 off. For the Nissan Fontier, a 2024 PRO is currently being offered for 37,810. Maroon color
I picked up a certified 22 King Cab 4x4 with the Technology package with 8k miles. It was dealership loaner for mid 20’s out the door about 6 months ago. Not widely known fact is all Frontiers start off on the assembly line as a “S” trim. So making it upgraded to your personal preference is far cheaper than spending 25k more for a Pro4x and it will be way better in the end.
Not paying nitrogen scam is pretty easy. Tell the sales guy you will only pay for the air that was put in the tires at the factory. The air that was already present when it rolled off the truck. That air is already included in the base price of the vehicle.
The only reason why I have not buy a Frontier is because no manual transmission option.
that would be nice
The Frontier SV version with 4X4 looks pretty darn good as well, if you're OK with not having the Pro 4X stuff. Perhaps a good option as well, same engine.
I love the SV 4x4, that’s the one I would actually get most likely.
My 2009 *SE Trim* Frontier (4.0L NA, MT, 4WD) came stock with Bilsteins from the factory. I believe the "SE" trim level was 2nd from the base model. Great trucks.
I just picked up a Pro 4X fully loaded for $3,500 below MSRP, and opted out of the $3,000 dealer extras which is mostly made up of a security antitheft package. Had to pay for the nitrogen, but that was cheap.
My 2012 Gen 2 Frontier SL was bulletproof for 11 years and a 160K miles. Traded that in for a 2024 SV Crew Cab long bed with all the available bells and whistles. No one mentions it, but Nissan adding an extra inch to the bed, making it 6ft 1inch long, was genius. That extra inch can make a big difference sometimes. It's such a nice truck with its silky smooth 3.8 310hp V6. I would have got the Pro-4X if it was offered with a long bed, but for reasons unknown to me, Nissan doesn't offer that configuration. I see a lot more Frontiers these days, and I attribute that to the V6 compared to the Tacoma 4-banger. Folks don't want a 4-banger in a truck. Then, the Frontier is made in America versus the Mexican Tacoma.
Great truck! I'm switching from my Taco( 2011 ) to the Pro series. That nitrogen pkg is complete BS and you can get that removed. Especially if you start talking complaining to the FTC or other regulatory body. The air we breath contains I believe 70% Nitrogen... That dealer is smoking crack and I'd let them know. A dealer tried that shit here in Vegas. The customer went to the local media. Needless to say that crap stopped.
I told my Toyota dealership no last week just keeping the one I have.
Yep, that will be the case with many
The chickens came home to roost for Toyota. The fan boys are running around like chickens with their heads cut off and saying they will only buy 2nd gens. The tacomas are entering the malaise era with little improvements and high prices. Just like the big 3 did during the 70s and 80s. Nissan makes a good truck and we don't have to constantly hear the resale/reliability rhetoric all the time from the owners.
The logical choice for many, considering the Toyota, GM and Ford offerings are overly complicated turbos and hybrids. And is not made in Mexico!
Bought a new 2024 sv model for $36700 out the door bout a month ago, it listed for $38250 before taxes, I'd love to think I got in and out right before they started jacking up the prices 😅
Normal air is 78 percent nitrogen already....sheesh. I have a 2023 Frontier Pro 4x and love it! Also had a 2018 Frontier Pro 4x and loved it as well. Good reliable, and does everything well.
We have a 24 Frontier Pro4X in Boulder Grey, We love it. Funny thing is, it's name is Rocky.
@@jeffsb76 fitting name my friend 😁
I just bought a 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X fully loaded with every option in early August for $45k out the door. Same spec'd Tacoma TRD Pro I couldn't touch for under $60k. The Frontier is by far a more comfortable, smoother and quieter ride and I am very happy with my decision .
Before I bought my FJ Cruiser last year I drove a new Frantier and really loved it.
FJ’s are sweet!
They have a lifted Nissan Frontier by Rocky Ridge. Still has warranty and looks great
I just got $5,500 off MSRP for the exact Frontier that I wanted. No add ons, no BS just manufacturer sticker options that I wanted. Yes I did have to contact many dealers but there are a few , very few honest dealers left but the 2024s are going fast.
I understand about not wanting the short bed but you can get a 4x4 in the SV that has the long bed. The Pro4X is designed for more extreme off-roading enthusiasts and the shorter wheel base has a better break over angle for crawling and other similar situations.
Yeah but I do love the suspension on the pro-4x, I just need to have a 6ft bed. I’ll keep my 2004 Ranger.
I went to look at the Pro4X last week. The sales staff were too busy watching the Olympics to assist me, even though I walked into the showroom. The seats felt overly curved and uncomfortable. I've decided to go Ridgeline since I have no ambition to off-road.
Nissan Frontier Pro-4X
Pros
Nissan Frontier Pro-4X
1) Dana/spicer rear end
2) Dana/spicer transfer case
3) Dana/spicer one peice aluminum drive shaft
4) ZF 9G-Tronic buttery smooth transmission, the trucks ZF 9 speed transmission is made by JATCO using a Mercedes-Benz 9G-Tronic as the design basis.
What the internet doesn't clearly tell us is how much
JATCO modified the 9G-Tronic design
5) big naturally aspirated V6
6) 60:1 crawl ratio to Tacoma’s 33:1 crawl ratio
7) hydraulic power steering
8) zero gravity seats
9) MADE IN AMERICA
10) last but not least PRICE
Cons
Per Consumer Reports: We expect the 2024 Frontier will be less reliable than the average new car. This prediction is based on data from 2022 and 2023 models, plus the Nissan brand scores.
The Nissan Frontier suffers from a few common problems, which include engine issues, transmission issues, defective airbags and paint chipping.
Heavy Hydraulic power steering not electronic power steering
Poor turning radious
No telescoping steering wheel
No rear air vents
Small back seat
No long bed on the Pro-4X
Issues with the cruise control
No lane keep assist because it has hydraulic power steering
Transmissions issues with the parking paul pin
The rear differential leaks and service intervals every 20,000 miles
The noise inside the cabin is loud compared to the Ridgeline
Smaller cramped interior compared to the Ridgeline
The interior seems outdated and old
There is a class action suit over the paint, the class action alleges 2017-present Nissan vehicles have been coated with defective paint primer that is not durable enough to withstand the rigors of daily driving and causing paint peeling.
The 23-page suit claims that the primer, a preparatory coating that allows paint to better adhere to a surface and increases durability, has caused affected vehicles to become substantially devalued. The case alleges the automaker has known for several years that the primer it uses is defective yet has not disclosed the problem to consumers and has outright refused to repair the issue free of charge.
Purchsed new pro4x in late august. Zero trash from dealer. Discounted even.
Its frustrating that the same thing isn't happening with the Titan. The Titan is the closest thing you can get to the previous generation Tundra and the new Tundras are expensive and full of Gremlins. Like the Frontier, Titans should be selling much better by stealing market share from Toyota, but its too late now. Also, you can get a new Titan today for only a few thousand more than a new Frontier, so I would have expected a lot of buyers to step up and opt for the Titan.
I ended up buying an F-150 coyote V8 last month, but I was looking hard at Titans. You can get a fully loaded Titan Pro 4X for $12K under MSRP and 0%. Check Newton Nissan of Gallatin, TN (outside Nashville). I was super close to flying there from Delaware, but just couldn't pass on the Coyote. Sounds so freaking good with Borla S exhaust, and you just don't see the aftermarket support for the Titan that you do for the F-150.
I've owned every kind of truck from a 91 Chevy S-10 Reg Cab 4 Cylinder, to a 2005 F-250 Ex. Cab 4x4. I haven't owned a truck in a while now, but if I were to buy a truck it would either be the F-150 with the Coyote V8, or the Frontier. I was always kind of iffy on turbo motors, but now seeing all the problems with these overly engineered and stressed motors I won't touch them at all.
Honda is the only one I would trust with turbocharged motors. They been doing it for a while now, but they only use turbochargers in their cars and I believe a van that isn't sold in North America.
I love Toyotas - With that said, here is my question- How can anyone look at the letters TRD without "turd" coming to mind? Full disclosure, while I own 2 Toyota vehicles, I did purchase the Frontier for all of the reasons you stated 0 regrets.
About TRD - depends on the person’s perversion level. Same as many abbreviations that insult people, nations, or for example I can invent or distort your name, last name bullying you to a sh*tty name or similar. Do you I have to keep in mind all this sh*t every day?
Nissan would have hit it out of the park if they offered the Pro 4X with a crew cab long bed option.
That would be awesome
With a manual option too!
I'd pay extra for that option with the automatic!
Just bought a 2024 pro4x and absolutely love it.
I love my 2024 pro4x leather, sun roof, alert red . Great truck and it's fast and breaks great ! 💯🙂
Mine feels slow.. like the throttle is laggy like it needs an update or something, the brakes are fine
I have a second d gen sequoia and I love it. But if I was in the market for a truck I would definitely que the frontier!! Simple engines and reliable. That’s what I like about my v8. No turbo or fancy tech that causes issues!
The air around you is 70% nitrogen. Why would you want 30% more?
destination charges are built into the MSRP. don't pay for it separately. negotiate it off. only pay dest fee if the dealer has to locate a specific vehicle you want and brings it to their lot.
I really really hope Nissan Dealerships dont get greedy and try to raise prices. They have a gold mine long term if they manage to knock the Tacoma to #2.
I just got a pro4-x 2 weeks ago and got $3400 off msrp. Some dealerships are scalp but find a good one and you will be just fine
I don't know what all the fuss is about, aren't most manufactures coming out with small, plain $25,000 pickups. They really don't want to make them and the price will be more like $35,000 plus if they do come about.
Oh yeah, I tried to buy a '24 base model 2 days ago. The truck went from advertised at 32k, right to to 44k in 5 minutes. I was stunned by their straight faces.
im seeing these trucks 3k - 4k under MSRP everywhere now. why in the world would day mark up???
Just wait, those discounts will end unfortunately. My area seems to set the trend for scummy dirtbags trying to rip people off.
A few months ago in my area i was seeing 6 to 8k off msrp now its 2 to 4k off
I bought a gmc canyon at4 but I really wish I had driven the frontier. It’s just a damn good looking truck.
This is why I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma 4x4. It's the last real truck that Toyota made. If I had waited, I would've definitely bought a Frontier Pro 4x. But honestly, I'm glad that I got a 3rd Gen Tacoma. My truck has gone up in value.
23 Tacoma is a really solid truck.
Been a Nissan fanboy my whole life, glad I bought mine as soon as they came out
I just bought one and it is awesome in every way I can't find anything I hate about it
"Dealers ruin it for everbody else".. ..sad
I bought a Frontier Pro 4x and I Love it!
Spot on; well said.
My 2015 nissan frontier sv 4x4 is still cruising. Does what I need it to and was very affordable in price. Frontier is reliable.
Take the engine out of the equation and you still have a price and value proposition that is hard to beat with the Frontier. Too bad the killed the Titan. It too would be skyrocketing in sales.
I LOVE my 2017 Tundra and my son Loves his 2019 Taco TRD Sport. BUT I would but the Frontier before I would ever consider the new Tundra or Tacoma
If the Pro4x had a king cab 6 foot bed, I would have bought it instead of the SV I got. But I still love it.
Honda also has hung in their with the natural v6 engines in the Ridgeline and other models
There’s no replacement for displacement
Nissan makes a fine product, what are the sales numbers? I've seen loaded Frontiers with big discounts of like $7 grand.
They've sold over 18k in quarter one currently second in midsized trucks behind the Tacoma but its close with Tacoma dropping to around 20k sales from 40k+ last year same quarter. Many of those Tacoma sales were likely remaining 23 models too. It will be interesting how the numbers fall by the end of the year but currently the frontier is doing great sales wise. A little too great, my local dealership is out of them and I'd like to try one out.
Bought me a 2024 GMC Canyon AT4. Solid Truck so far, can't complain. GMC Canyon Tows way more than the Frontier
GMC Canyon is probably my favorite truck of the bunch. Colorado Trail Boss and Frontier Pro-4x base are the best value
I love mine ! I got the midnight package on mine
People have to always find something to cry about. The only thing that upsets me about the new Tacoma is the pricing. They should've included a little more creature comforts for the price. Other that its a nice truck. Everyone cries about turbos just like they did when Ford went Ecoboost in the F150 almost 15 years ago. Guess what? There's tons of Ecobooost engines with over 200k miles on the road with the original turbos. The 2.7 in the Colorado has been solid. Im personally leaning towards a Frontier Pro4x but thats only because its like 5 grand under MSRP. Its $38k brand new and its a nice truck
The Frontier is a nice truck, but if Nissan dealers play the markup game, I’d wait till there’s deals on the Tacoma, its gonna happen, just wait.
Why? Frontier is better than the Plastic Tacoma and it's 4 cylinder turbo
I won’t pay markup’s on the price.@@Blue-moon12
The Q2 sales figures are misleading. GM had major delivery issues, The Ranger JUST arrived at dealers...The Tacoma was late as well
Nissan discontinued the titan Nissan has a lot of loyal buyers that have now moved to the frontier now that the titan is gone
I was stuck between this and the Maverick. I ended up getting a Maverick Hybrid because of the better gas mileage and I never off road. I live in North Carolina so winters aren’t extreme.
I’ve had mine almost 2 years, no issues. Only improvement would be to make the steering a little lighter.
I like that feeling people are so different
The heavy steering is a common complaint. I do feel like it’s more direct than others and safer because of it.
@@revnation_auto me too
My local dealer in a HCOL area has base models for $2000 under MSRP
I'm in the market for one, but somewhat hard to do since I want the extended cab w/the Convenience package. Slim pick'ns. Gave up waiting for the the others to offer an extended cab.
I know when I need a new truck I'm gonna pick up a 3rd gen Nissan frontier pro 4x I have a 2012 sv with a pro4x rear axle so it does have a locker and a bit longer bed because it's a king cab. But it's been a great truck especially for the price and it only had 29k miles on it when I got it I just love it being so old school and simple not a bunch of useless electronics and overpriced stuff I don't need.
You can get long bed in different cab configuration
Son wanted new Tacoma just a week ago we went to dealer it had 17 Tacoma on lot and wouldn’t deal 54,000 for untested new vehicle told the guy we are not paying 6000 for dealer add ons guy said you have to FTC said we don’t so we got Nissan sv 2 days later with long bed and just about everything Toyota had for 36,000 out the door
Nice!!
What’s FTC mean?
@@tg8150 federal trade commission before buying do some research
If someone told me that they would be buying a Nissan over a tacoma I would've told them they lost their minds a few years ago....times have changed
I wish nissan was keeping the titan and style it more like the frontier, I think the styling and keeping the v8 would push tundra sales of a cliff